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Laker
February 17th, 2020, 10:18 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERBtGthXUAEB3MA?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Lorne_Malvo
February 17th, 2020, 10:24 PM
Hope he is ok, but driving like he did gets you sent to the hospital.

POD Knows
February 18th, 2020, 09:20 AM
Hope he is ok, but driving like he did gets you sent to the hospital.What do you mean "driving like he did"? Blaney got under him and basically "PITTED" him. Wasn't much Newman could have done about it. Logano had basically taken out all of the leaders earlier by pushing another car into the car in front of it. It is a tough business.

JayJ79
February 18th, 2020, 11:49 AM
is there any sort of penalty system in car racing to discourage dangerously aggressive driving?

Lorne_Malvo
February 18th, 2020, 11:52 AM
What do you mean "driving like he did"? Blaney got under him and basically "PITTED" him. Wasn't much Newman could have done about it. Logano had basically taken out all of the leaders earlier by pushing another car into the car in front of it. It is a tough business.

Blaney and Newman were up high, Blaney went low to get around Newman and Newman dropped down to prevent the pass. Newman made the mistake.

dbackjon
February 18th, 2020, 01:02 PM
It was a horrid crash

POD Knows
February 18th, 2020, 01:20 PM
Blaney and Newman were up high, Blaney went low to get around Newman and Newman dropped down to prevent the pass. Newman made the mistake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11IUYaf4XM

OK, this is my first decent look at the replay, yea, he did try and block him but it seemed like there was enough time to react to the block but **** happens fast out there. I am not blaming Blaney, this was a pretty aggressive block by Newman and he paid for it.

Go Lehigh TU Owl
February 18th, 2020, 01:23 PM
The indifference to wrecking at Daytona and Talladega finally caught up with them last night. The fact the drivers would block and weave freely with no regard for their fellow driver was going to catch up with them eventually. The "big one" and flips have been part of the deal at these tracks for years but only recently did it become accepted. When that happened the slope became extra slippery. Thankfully Newman will live to talk about his ride last night.

Hopefully these drivers wise up and realize that sometimes being the first loser is ok. Even Earnhardt knew when to rattle cages and when to accept his place on the track.

Professor Chaos
February 18th, 2020, 01:26 PM
Blaney and Newman were up high, Blaney went low to get around Newman and Newman dropped down to prevent the pass. Newman made the mistake.
Tough to blame either guy in that scenario in the last turn of the last lap. Any driver is going to do whatever they can to win the race at that point no matter how reckless.

It reminded me of Dale Earnhardt's death on the same turn of the same lap (at least I think it was the same turn and same lap) 19 years ago. It's pretty amazing given how horrific that crash was that Newman wasn't killed. Not just the impact with the wall and skidding on his roof for that long but he got absolutely smoked with a square hit to the driver's side of his car by another car after he had already flipped and hit the wall. I believe no driver since Earnhardt has died in a wreck in a NACAR race.

Go Lehigh TU Owl
February 18th, 2020, 01:36 PM
Tough to blame either guy in that scenario in the last turn of the last lap. Any driver is going to do whatever they can to win the race at that point no matter how reckless.

It reminded me of Dale Earnhardt's death on the same turn of the same lap (at least I think it was the same turn and same lap) 19 years ago. It's pretty amazing given how horrific that crash was that Newman wasn't killed. Not just the impact with the wall and skidding on his roof for that long but he got absolutely smoked with a square hit to the driver's side of his car by another car after he had already flipped and hit the wall. I believe no driver since Earnhardt has died in a wreck in a NACAR race.

NASCAR cars/trucks have been awesomely built for the last 35-40 years. The 80's saw major improvements in the basic construction of the cars. There were sadly fatalities but more often than not guys walked with nothing more than a broken bone and their "bell rung". By the mid 90's the restraints and seats were on point but they still hadn't figured out/cared about restraining the head. As a result there was an uptick in basilar skull fractures. Prior to the improvement in restraints and seats the body cavity and extremities would move a bit which limited the chances for the basilar injury. However, guys arms, legs and even head would often smack something leading to broken bones and head injuries. Apparently Earnhardt kept his belts a little on the loose side which caused him to slide down and snap forward when he hit the wall? At least that's the theory. I was a young kid at Pocono the weekend Allison had his career ending injury in '88. He took a direct shot to the drivers side door which pushed his seat a foot or two over.

Geoff Bodine survived this rodeo at Daytona. This wreck is still the benchmark imo.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/aa/fc/28aafc8776d85560cfc6c2f2a900df92.jpg

Bisonator
February 18th, 2020, 01:41 PM
The indifference to wrecking at Daytona and Talladega finally caught up with them last night. The fact the drivers would block and weave freely with no regard for their fellow driver was going to catch up with them eventually. The "big one" and flips have been part of the deal at these tracks for years but only recently did it become accepted. When that happened the slope became extra slippery. Thankfully Newman will live to talk about his ride last night.

Hopefully these drivers wise up and realize that sometimes being the first loser is ok. Even Earnhardt knew when to rattle cages and when to accept his place on the track.
It's simply a result of racing at Daytona and Talladega. They limit the cars speed so the only way to pass is by drafting. Only way to not get passed is to block. It is what it is and all of them do what they have to do to try to win the race. NASCAR needs to rip the splitter and spoilers off these cars and get them off the ground so they are hard to drive. Then they can get rid of the engine restrictions and actually race.

clenz
February 18th, 2020, 01:46 PM
It's simply a result of racing at Daytona and Talladega. They limit the cars speed so the only way to pass is by drafting. Only way to not get passed is to block. It is what it is and all of them do what they have to do to try to win the race. NASCAR needs to rip the splitter and spoilers off these cars and get them off the ground so they are hard to drive. Then they can get rid of the engine restrictions and actually race.
I mean - they got rid of the plate last year.

Bisonator
February 18th, 2020, 01:48 PM
NASCAR cars/trucks have been awesomely built for the last 35-40 years. The 80's saw major improvements in the basic construction of the cars. There were sadly fatalities but more often than not guys walked with nothing more than a broken bone and their "bell rung". By the mid 90's the restraints and seats were on point but they still hadn't figured out/cared about restraining the head. As a result there was an uptick in basilar skull fractures. Prior to the improvement in restraints and seats the body cavity and extremities would move a bit which limited the chances for the basilar injury. However, guys arms, legs and even head would often smack something leading to broken bones and head injuries. Apparently Earnhardt kept his belts a little on the loose side which caused him to slide down and snap forward when he hit the wall? At least that's the theory. I was a young kid at Pocono the weekend Allison had his career ending injury in '88. He took a direct shot to the drivers side door which pushed his seat a foot or two over.

Geoff Bodine survived this rodeo at Daytona. This wreck is still the benchmark imo.
Those types of wrecks look the worst but are actually the safer ones because the energy is dissipated by the car being shredded. The sudden stops by hitting a wall or getting hit by another car as in Newman's wreck are the worst for sustaining serious injuries. Safety has come a long ways but there's always room to improve. Guessing NASCAR will require stronger roll cages around the drivers side after analyzing this wreck. The safer they make them the more drivers and fans take safety for granted. Until another serious wreck happens.

Bisonator
February 18th, 2020, 01:50 PM
I mean - they got rid of the plate last year.

That's because they are now fuel injected. They restrict the horsepower by computer, just like your vehicle.

Go Lehigh TU Owl
February 18th, 2020, 01:52 PM
Those types of wrecks look the worst but are actually the safer ones because the energy is dissipated by the car being shredded. The sudden stops by hitting a wall or getting hit by another car as in Newman's wreck are the worst for sustaining serious injuries. Safety has come a long ways but there's always room to improve. Guessing NASCAR will require stronger roll cages around the drivers side after analyzing this wreck. The safer they make them the more drivers and fans take safety for granted. Until another serious wreck happens.

Absolutely! No better example of that is the '93 wreck at Talladega. Jimmy Horton literally flipped out of the track and landed near the parking lot while Stanley Smith hit the wall nearly head on and suffered a basilar skull fracture. Amazingly he survived....

Having watched racing my whole life I didn't think Newman's accident was fatal so long as nothing got inside the car and his restraints held up. The safer walls do an awesome job absorbing the impact and while he took the shot in the roof from Lajoie the bars did hold up for the most part. That combined with the larger greenhouses were to his benefit....


https://youtu.be/gvMV9qLHUiI?t=87

cx500d
February 18th, 2020, 05:44 PM
I remember his crash from 2003, I think that was the year he won a ton of races. His car was destroyed here too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpxmuzPQK94

Go Lehigh TU Owl
February 18th, 2020, 07:09 PM
I remember his crash from 2003, I think that was the year he won a ton of races. His car was destroyed here too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpxmuzPQK94

He had another nasty flip at Talladega in 2009. When your race for nearly 20 years at this level there's going to be a few crashes you need to "escape" from. Just glad he's ok! Newman is a smart dude, engineering degree from Purdue, and a former teammate of Rusty Wallace while at then Penske/HAAS.