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Gamecocks99
August 12th, 2005, 11:54 PM
***From today's Birmingham News.***

Right behind the NCAA comes our friends from PETA.
What is next??



Click & read below what JSU Fans thinks about it.

http://www.gojaxstate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=418&sid=d2a3c78fe7d7070b04d9b51f6ef88b47
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PETA asks NCAA to ban Gamecocks nickname
Friday, August 12, 2005

MIKE PERRIN
News staff writer

Jacksonville State and the University of South Carolina have ruffled some feathers at PETA and the animal rights advocacy group is asking Myles Brand to do something about it.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a letter to the NCAA president on Wednesday asking him to extend the recent ban on nicknames considered hostile or abusive to ethnic groups so that it would outlaw the Gamecocks.

"Our position is that since cockfighting is illegal in 48 states in this country and a felony in South Carolina - you go to jail, period - we don't think schools should be promoting this illegal act with their mascots," said Dan Shannon, PETA manager of campaigns.

"Our problem with Gamecocks is it promotes cockfighting. That's not only illegal, but tremendously cruel to the animals involved.

"We've been in contact with the presidents of these universities for several years," Shannon said. "We've exchanged polite letters back and forth, very polite and respectful, but they have chosen not to change their names.

"With the NCAA decision about Native American nicknames, we hope that might spur them on - no pun intended - to adopt a nickname more respectful to animals."

The president's office at JSU had no comment on Thursday and efforts to reach Athletics Director Jimmy Fuller were unsuccessful. In October of 2001, however, JSU President Bill Meehan told The State of Columbia, S.C., "We have no plans to change at this time, and there is no movement in the study body to change."

PETA campaign coordinator Allison Ezell told Brand in Wednesday's letter saying the ban on nicknames offensive to Native Americans "sends a message that old-fashioned and offensive representations are not appropriate, and we would like to ask that you extend this sensitivity to animals by banning team names and logos that suggest hostility or abuse toward animals."

Ezell said the group supported nicknames that "highlight the power and beauty in the natural world" like the Oregon Ducks and Baylor Bears. Shannon extended the group's respect to the Southeastern Conference.

"We don't have a problem with names like the LSU Tigers," he said, "those that are respectful to animals and show that they are worthy of respect. You'd be proud to be a tiger. We have no problem with that."

Ezell said Jax State and South Carolina glorified "a hideous `blood sport' that, like spousal abuse, bank robbery and driving while intoxicated, is illegal in both South Carolina and Alabama."

"It's a safe bet that officials at South Carolina and Jacksonville would never dream of calling their athletic teams the Dogfighters, Wifebeaters, Looters or Road-Ragers! By calling them the Gamecocks, USC sends a message to sports fans that cruel, illegal cockfighting is something to cheer about."

JaxStateManager
August 13th, 2005, 12:34 AM
Why do they keep pestering us about our mascot? We have been the Gamecocks since before cockfighting was deemed illegal in the state. Aside from that, many people in this region raise Gamecocks (myself included) and consider it an honor to have a local college team named the GAMECOCKS!

Mr. C
August 13th, 2005, 01:07 AM
How ridiculous. Maybe the folks at JSU could invite the PETA folks to discuss the matter over lunch at the nearest Chick-Filla? :D :D :D

youwouldno
August 13th, 2005, 01:11 AM
I wouldn't worry-- the NCAA is full of idiots, but even they don't take PETA seriously.

blur2005
August 13th, 2005, 01:42 AM
You know, I may be liberal, but I've never liked PETA. They make the ACLU look sane.

Pantherpower
August 13th, 2005, 07:44 AM
PETA folks were also against fishing. :rolleyes: The hooks hurt the poor wittle fishies mouth :p Wonder if the deep fryer hurts when I throw the fish in?? :p

ChickenMan
August 13th, 2005, 07:53 AM
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:b0mKZXUtzycJ:rhetorica.net/weblogpix/bluehen.gif


Are the Fightin Blue Hens next on PETA's hit list...

JaxSinfonian
August 13th, 2005, 09:20 AM
We have been the Gamecocks since before cockfighting was deemed illegal in the state.

Actually, cockfighting was outlawed in Alabama in 1896 (http://alisdb.legislature.state.al.us/acas/CodeOfAlabama/1975/13A-12-4.htm). JSU didn't become the Gamecocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamecock) until 1946, when the players got tired of going by the name Eagle Owls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Owl).

The folks at PETA aren't smart enough to notice that Delaware's mascot also has its origins in cockfighting.

Cockfighting is indeed cruel and inhumane. But this is a pretty stupid way to get people to stop doing it. It is, however, a great way to get people to stop taking you seriously.

Sam Adams
August 13th, 2005, 10:08 AM
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:b0mKZXUtzycJ:rhetorica.net/weblogpix/bluehen.gif


Are the Fightin Blue Hens next on PETA's hit list...


Very good point chicken man. Absolutely the Fightin' Blue Hens mascot promotes the cruel and barbarous cockfighting. The kent county blue hen is legendary in cockfighting lore as being particularly belligerant, ferocious, vicious and cruel. Thus UD is the worst offender in the NCAA.

In order to adequately punish UD for its thoughtless and indecent mascot selection the NCAA is bringin in the fab five from queer eye for the straight guy and instituting a whole makover for the UD football team. From now on UD's football team will be known as "the happy nonviolent conflict avoiders"....here is the UD football team now...celebrating their new identity in their fancy new football uniforms.

http://www.d155.org/cg/images/follies1.jpg

on behalf of the rest of the A10 I would like to thank PETA.

McTailGator
August 13th, 2005, 11:56 AM
[QUOTE=Gamecocks99]***From today's Birmingham News.***

Right behind the NCAA comes our friends from PETA.
What is next??



Click & read below what JSU Fans thinks about it.

http://www.gojaxstate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=418&sid=d2a3c78fe7d7070b04d9b51f6ef88b47
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Well,

As a COWBOY fan, we're holding our collective breath that some disgruntled Hindu Religious group doesn't pop up on us in revenge for all the years of branding, and slathering of their ancestors throughout history.

May have to change our names to "Bovine Herders" in an effort to become a softer gentler Mascot. xidiotx

igo4uni
August 13th, 2005, 03:23 PM
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:b0mKZXUtzycJ:rhetorica.net/weblogpix/bluehen.gif


Are the Fightin Blue Hens next on PETA's hit list...

If PETA is consistent, then yes, the Fightin Blue Hens need to change their mascot. Maybe this will stop all of you Delaware fans from constantly promoting cock fighting. More power to PETA for putting a stop to this.

peace

igo4uni

JaxStateManager
August 13th, 2005, 04:38 PM
My fault, I had my years crossed about the outlawing in Alabama. Thanks for the correction. Still, People Eating Tasty Animals needs to stay out of the NCAA all together.

Coastal89
August 13th, 2005, 06:00 PM
The Chanticleer can't be far behind either. Maybe we can call ourselves The Dog Killers, PETA shouldn't have a problem with that in light of their recent actions.
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/article_detail.cfm?article=134

LBPop
August 14th, 2005, 12:14 AM
Are the Fightin Blue Hens next on PETA's hit list...

Sure. Just what is it you are doing in Newark to make those chickens blue? Makes one shudder to think about it! :rolleyes:

Coastal89
August 14th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Here is the letter from Dr. John Palms, USC Pres. in 2001, in response to PETA.


Dear Ms. Phelps:

This morning, I received your letter requesting that the University of South Carolina (USC) abandon its Gamecock mascot. For nearly 100 years, the University has celebrated the virtues of the Gamecock as its mascot, and we will continue to do so for as long as we are the University of South Carolina. Because your letter implies disgust with the Gamecock itself, I hope you will allow me the opportunity to provide some information about the Gamecock and its association with South Carolina and the University.

The ancient Syrians worshiped the fighting cock as one of their deities. In China, the gamecock is considered the herald of mortal existence and a symbol of honor, merit, and the west. In ancient Greece, the gamecock was the announcer of the sun and was considered sacred because of its magnanimity, courage, skill, and constancy. In Germany and Hungary, the gamecock is still considered a weather prophet. Over the centuries, such noble attributes have been associated with the gamecock as diligence, wakefulness, defiance, and vigilance.

It seems the “Gamecock” name was first associated with USC athletics teams in 1902. That year, USC upset Clemson (our in-state athletics rival), and Carolina students paraded through the streets near campus carrying a transparency that had been hanging in a local store window. The transparency, drawn by USC mathematics Professor F. Horton Colcock, featured the image of a gamecock standing over a fallen tiger. Two weeks later, The State newspaper began referring to the USC team as the “Game Cocks.” By 1904, the two words had been joined and the name had stuck.

A possible source for the first link between the University of South Carolina and the gamecock mascot lies with a nickname of a legendary military leader from South Carolina, Thomas Sumter. During the War for Independence, Sumter energized South Carolina in its fight against the British. In his preferred hat, coat, and epaulettes, Sumter donned the colors of the gamecock, and he was well-known for his fearlessness in battle. British officers commonly scorned Sumter as the “South Carolina Game Cock,” but South Carolinians were proud of his daunting spirit. Letters and other records indicate that by the 1840s, South Carolinians were praising Sumter as the “South Carolina Game Cock.” Perhaps his nickname inspired Professor Colcock as he depicted the USC victory over Clemson.

As you can see, South Carolina and the Gamecock have a history that incorporates far more than the sport of cockfighting. While cockfighting is illegal in South Carolina, gamecocks are not.

The University of South Carolina is proud to be known as the Fighting Gamecocks, and we will remain so for many years to come.

Sincerely,

John M. Palms

FightinBluHen51
August 15th, 2005, 08:51 AM
They change our mascot on the day of the 12th of Never!

The NCAA and PETA are both out of control with this Political Correctness BS. I just don't understand why such a small 'majority' has such a loud voice?

SoCon48
August 15th, 2005, 09:41 AM
[QUOTE=FightinBluHen51]They change our mascot on the day of the 12th of Never!

I don't think anyone will mess with the name "Blue Hen." It's innocuous enough.