MVFC Megathread: 2020 Edition

[Bisonoline]

The other piece of that is by letting us donate the TM dues, and not getting seats, it should become a fully tax deductible contribution as we received nothing in return and it was no longer a seat license. Hopefully they recognize that and make that adjustment.

They will just direct you to donate to a different TM fund that is tax deductible. IMO They may have to refund the money to have you redonate. Or if they can do so legally may be they can just redirect the funds at your choosing.

[No_Skill]

I wonder if they would consider increasing the priority points given this year. It might provide more incentive for people to give. Even with some of these accommodations, I have a feeling donations will be awfully light this year.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I'm almost positive now that Frisco 2020 was the last time we will have watched Trey Lance play in a Bison uniform....:(

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I'm almost positive now that Frisco 2020 was the last time we will have watched Trey Lance play in a Bison uniform....:(


https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/football/6607744-UPDATED-Bison-football-conference-games-moved-to-spring


Maybe will get to see TL and the team play this fall. 3 games are trying to be lined up for the fall and 8 conference games for the spring.

[cx500d]

I'm almost positive now that Frisco 2020 was the last time we will have watched Trey Lance play in a Bison uniform....:(
Its like basketball....one and done.

[Bisonoline]

Im going to wait another week or so before I cancel all my reservations.

[The Yo Show]

No way there are any football games played this fall. So... I guess there is no 2020 MVFC. Rename the thread 2021! xlolx

[Daytripper]

Prediction: No college football until the spring at the soonest.

[cx500d]

Prediction: No college football until the spring at the soonest.

I think they should crown the 2020 FCS champion as the team that won the most games in 2020.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-zone/6609599-Northern-Iowa-has-three-football-players-depart-after-fall-season-postponed



UNI losing 3 top seniors because of fall game cancellation.

CB Xavier Williams
DE Ellerson Smith
OT Spencer Brown

Williams and Smith enter the transfer portal and Brown probably straight to the draft.

[Bisonator]

https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-zone/6609599-Northern-Iowa-has-three-football-players-depart-after-fall-season-postponed



UNI losing 3 top seniors because of fall game cancellation.

CB Xavier Williams
DE Ellerson Smith
OT Spencer Brown

Williams and Smith enter the transfer portal and Brown probably straight to the draft.
They might as well just drop out and focus on the NFL since the FBS isn't going to be playing either. A spring season will be a joke even if it were to happen with all the NFL guys opting out. JFC what a wasted year......

[Professor]

Where are they going to tranfer too?

[Winterborn]

I think they should crown the 2020 FCS champion as the team that won the most games in 2020.

I can get behind this. xthumbsupx

[Hammersmith]

Where are they going to tranfer too?

At the time, an FBS program. It's rather amazing how fast this situation has developed. Most of us realists have know this was coming for a month or two, but I expected it to drag out over at least two or three weeks. The day before those UNI players entered the transfer portal, it seemed like a rational thing to do. One day after they did it, it was clear it had become a meaningless gesture.

[ST_Lawson]

At the time, an FBS program. It's rather amazing how fast this situation has developed. Most of us realists have know this was coming for a month or two, but I expected it to drag out over at least two or three weeks. The day before those UNI players entered the transfer portal, it seemed like a rational thing to do. One day after they did it, it was clear it had become a meaningless gesture.

I suppose, if all football at the NCAA level is cancelled for the year (apparently NAIA is still planning on going ahead with it for now), and if this year doesn't count against a player's eligibility, then they could always just chose to come back. Other players have entered the transfer portal, seen what's available, changed their minds and come back to their old team. So, there's still a chance that if nobody in DI is playing this year, they'll just go back to UNI. That probably won't apply if the player chooses to go for the NFL draft and gets an agent and stuff though.

[Professor]

At the time, an FBS program. It's rather amazing how fast this situation has developed. Most of us realists have know this was coming for a month or two, but I expected it to drag out over at least two or three weeks. The day before those UNI players entered the transfer portal, it seemed like a rational thing to do. One day after they did it, it was clear it had become a meaningless gesture.

Its like these kids aren't watching the news

[ASU33]

Its like these kids aren't watching the news

That combined with getting some bad advice!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

They might as well just drop out and focus on the NFL since the FBS isn't going to be playing either. A spring season will be a joke even if it were to happen with all the NFL guys opting out. JFC what a wasted year......



ND is giving HS football a go this fall. MN is going spring ball but that will be challenging at the least with the weather up here in the spring.

[Winterborn]

ND is giving HS football a go this fall. MN is going spring ball but that will be challenging at the least with the weather up here in the spring.

There is some pretty strong backing in ND for keeping HS football going on this fall. I would be very surprised if they deviate from a normal season.

[Anthony215]

Its like these kids aren't watching the news

I think those who transferred up will definitely have consider asking their old programs to come back especially those who went to P5 schools because they were seen as 1 year gap replacements and now with those schools not playing this year they'll just use the year off to groom the 2020 freshmen to step up not to mention the reinforcements that will arrive next August with the C/O 2021. JUCO kids will feel the pinch strong as well very few FBS schools will be taking JUCO kids in the 2021 cycle so they'll be pushed down to the FCS/D2 rankings which is good for us but their egos may be bruised quite a bit. As long as they use that energy on the field showing they have a chip on their shoulders I'm fine with it lol.

[ST_Lawson]

Looks like SDSU is losing star WR Cade Johnson. Johnson will be a senior after having put in 3 years for the Jackrabbits, last year garnering a second-team All-American selection and first-team All-Conference. He led the team in receiving with 1222 yards (94 ypg) and 8 TDs last year.

[ST_Lawson]

I suppose, if all football at the NCAA level is cancelled for the year (apparently NAIA is still planning on going ahead with it for now), and if this year doesn't count against a player's eligibility, then they could always just chose to come back. Other players have entered the transfer portal, seen what's available, changed their minds and come back to their old team. So, there's still a chance that if nobody in DI is playing this year, they'll just go back to UNI. That probably won't apply if the player chooses to go for the NFL draft and gets an agent and stuff though.

Like I said...

Twitter Post:

Update: Northern Iowa DE Elerson Smith has withdrawn his name from the transfer portal



https://twitter.com/RivalsPortal/status/1295370568695513088

[Gil Dobie]

Just got my email from NDSU about the fall season being cancelled. They will be calling all season ticket holders individually, to discuss Spring options.

[Gil Dobie]

Do you think the conference will make the Spring season be a full conference schedule of 10 games, if Non-conference games are no available?

[ST_Lawson]

Do you think the conference will make the Spring season be a full conference schedule of 10 games, if Non-conference games are no available?

My guess is we start March 6th at the earliest due to weather, maybe that first weekend or two all games are at the furthest south locations or indoor fields...games at NDSU, USD, UND, SIU, and MSU.
If they did a 10 game schedule, starting 3/6, with 1 bye week in roughly the middle of the season, the final "regular season" games are on May 8th. That could work, depending on what the NCAA might want to do in terms of playoffs. If there's no playoffs, I could see allowing teams a non-conference game in there somewhere, but if they are trying to have playoffs, they'll probably want to get started on that by mid-May. I can't imagine they want to push that too far into the summer if at all possible.

[The Yo Show]

I'm starting to be unsure of the logitistics of a spring season. To the point where I am beginning to question the feasibility. There will be no break in between really the season and the fall 2021 season for the athletes if they have a postseason and a team makes it far. IDK.

[Paladin1aa]

Spring football, then a couple of months off followed by Fall football ? Not a great idea for the athletes health and well being. Not to mention recovering from injuries. Bad idea.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Spring football, then a couple of months off followed by Fall football ? Not a great idea for the athletes health and well being. Not to mention recovering from injuries. Bad idea.
unfortunately, a strong this. The healthy well conditioned, less banged up, less mileage athletes will probably be fine bouncing right back, but will still be facing higher risk of injury. But very few even will fall into that category by spring season end. Football seasons are grinds .. wars of attrition.

I'm thinking it is best for fall 2021 to cancel fall 2020 entirely.

[BEAR]

FARGO - North Dakota State had at least one opponent that was willing to play the Bison this fall.

https://www.inforum.com/sports/football/6624544-Central-Arkansas-was-set-to-be-a-Bison-football-opponent-this-fall

[Bisonoline]

FARGO - North Dakota State had at least one opponent that was willing to play the Bison this fall.

https://www.inforum.com/sports/football/6624544-Central-Arkansas-was-set-to-be-a-Bison-football-opponent-this-fall


I would have loved it. UCA has a good program. Kudos to guys for wanting to play the game.

[BEAR]

I would have loved it. UCA has a good program. Kudos to guys for wanting to play the game.

I know it would have been a tough game especially with that QB you got. But it still would have been fun! At least a good measure of where our program is and what it takes to have a winning program on the national level. Yearly top 10 is good. But we don't want good. We want GREAT. xthumbsupx

[Bisonoline]

I know it would have been a tough game especially with that QB you got. But it still would have been fun! At least a good measure of where our program is and what it takes to have a winning program on the national level. Yearly top 10 is good. But we don't want good. We want GREAT. xthumbsupx

You keep recruiting the horses you have in the past you will get there.

[Professor Chaos]

*tap* *tap* *tap* Is this thing on???

MVFC releases the revised 2020 spring schedule with Indiana St removed: https://valley-football.org/news/2021/1/21/valley-football-announces-2021-spring-schedule.aspx

Illinois St and WIU hosting games on 2/27 and SDSU and YSU hosting games on 3/6... we'll see how that works out.

I like that they left the weekend of 4/17 completely open for everyone to accommodate for inevitable COVID related postponements.

[ST_Lawson]

Illinois St and WIU hosting games on 2/27 and SDSU and YSU hosting games on 3/6... we'll see how that works out.

Weather in Macomb on that date...average high of about 43, although at noon (when kickoff is currently scheduled) is (on average) more like 40. Could get lucky and have it be in the 40s (or higher) and sunny, which would be pretty solid. Could also be single digits, so that could be interesting.

Although really, the weather in late February for us is, in general, about the same as late November, so it's like playing the season in reverse weather-wise.

[nodak651]

*tap* *tap* *tap* Is this thing on???

MVFC releases the revised 2020 spring schedule with Indiana St removed: https://valley-football.org/news/2021/1/21/valley-football-announces-2021-spring-schedule.aspx

Illinois St and WIU hosting games on 2/27 and SDSU and YSU hosting games on 3/6... we'll see how that works out.

I like that they left the weekend of 4/17 completely open for everyone to accommodate for inevitable COVID related postponements.


Will roster departures and a pandemic be what it takes for NDSU to finally lose a game, or will you guys steamroll through the FCS again?

[nodak651]

When does the MVFC pre season poll come out?

[Professor Chaos]

Will roster departures and a pandemic be what it takes for NDSU to finally lose a game, or will you guys steamroll through the FCS again?
I'm not worried about the O-line or the defense. IMO it all depends on what Zeb Noland will bring at QB? Some Bison fans are sold on him being a stud... I'm still in wait-and-see mode. He's definitely no Easton Stick or Trey Lance in the mobility department so NDSU's offense will have to adapt to not having the QB run threat (which is what won them the games their last two games).

I wouldn't be surprised to see NDSU drop a game or two this spring. All it takes is a bit of bad luck in the who-get-COVID department to really hurt a particular position group and then all bets are off. NDSU plays a few tight MVFC games every year anyway that usually could go either way depending on a few bounces.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Reese's Senior Bowl Game is today. 2 MVFC practice players of the week.

ISUr Christian Uphoff was voted top Safety Practice Player of Week, but opposing QBs and WRs

NDSU OL Dillon Radunz was voted Overall Practice Player of the Week, and not just for OL

Interestingly, the top OL Practice Player was a D-III player from powerhouse WI-Whitewater OL Quinn Meinerz.. He's come out of nowhere even at D-III level supposedly with a breakout season .. which is hard to comprehend.


As for my ISUr spring prospects.

Our secondary has some serious reloading to do now ... SR Uphoff (late round NFL prospect, 6'3" 213) opted to prepare for NFL draft due to heavy interest and won't play this spring. We also lost SR CB Devin Taylor last fall (all conf, and 3rd team Steele all american) .. he opted for transfer portal due to NFL prospects and was picked up by Virginia Tech .. started at corner for them and tied for 4th in total tackles. These unexpected losses to secondary on top of losing senior Safety Luthor Kirk to graduation (all conf and all american), currently on Vikings practice squad. Our 2018 and 2019 secondary was so loaded .. should have only lost Kirk for last fall or this spring. Now we have to replace all 3 studs.

Our front 3 DL group was returning top 5 in rotation, but then lost all conf DE Romeo McKnight to transfer portal last fall .. went to Charlotte and started, finishing 5th in tackles; and then DT Podkulski (6'4" 295 lb) just went down to injury. DL will still be very stout, but the depth is now a serious question.

The LB group had lost 1 FT starter, plus 2 PT starters, and 1 more from our 2 deep .. so we lost 4 of top 7, though got a decent FBS transfer who played at Tennessee as true FR. Then this winter, we nearly lost another RS JR LB starter to graduation, but he reversed his decision for spring and will play afterall - so we have 4 very solid experienced starters, though depth took a big hit.

Just wanted put these excuses out there early .. :D ... I was so optimistic about our defense last fall. We had so much coming back and would have had another very strong defense, as good or better than 2019. Now .... this spring will be definite drop-off, just a question of how far.


Also lost starting QB Davis .. curiously opted to prepare for "next level" ... if he says, "watch me be great" one more time, I may actually throw up this time. I'll let you all know if it matters to our offense .. we'll miss his leadership (he did do this), but we won't miss his arm inaccuracy. And now we walk into spring season, with a small HS true FR as #2. And you saw our new #1, he became playoff starter after Davis went down late .... he was very good at handing off to Robinson .. who is playing for Jaguars now. Our other new #1 against YSU late .. he is now #4 even with Davis gone. So we have that going for us .. which is ... eh. whatever.

Anyway... if we compete well, on either side of ball this spring, it will be a pleasant surprise. Don't get me wrong, we have talent waiting their turn ... but I think we're in trouble this spring ... 3-5 maybe, but 2-6 is way more likely than 4-4. Our best hope is other middling teams were also hit hard by pandemic related disruption to roster. My best guess is the new guys get baptism by fire this spring and will be much more ready to compete again this fall. Lot of talent waiting their turn to develop and step up.

Going to be humbling spring for my Redbirds .... when your best hope is others were also hit unexpectedly hard ... just not good.

[Professor Chaos]

The MVFC spring 2021 coaches poll and all-conference team was released today: https://valley-football.org/news/2021/2/3/football-north-dakota-state-picked-to-repeat-as-mvfc-champion.aspx

https://valley-football.org/images/2021/2/3/MVFC_Preseason_Poll_Spring_2021.jpg?width=720&height=405&mode=crop

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50905166716_ae2c35a0d8_c.jpg

[mvfcfan]

My Sycamores are so pathetic that they didn't even make the poll. xlolx

[DFW HOYA]

My Sycamores are so pathetic that they didn't even make the poll. xlolx

When will they get a new stadium? Memorial Stadium has seen better days.

[mvfcfan]

When will they get a new stadium? Memorial Stadium has seen better days.

We were 10 years away from getting a new stadium 15 years ago. We're not a penny closer now than we were then. So besides coming up with a new drawing every 5 years, we'll probably drop the program before we build a new stadium. As you can tell we take the program so seriously that we are the only ones not attempting to play in the Spring (in the MVFC).

[ST_Lawson]

We were 10 years away from getting a new stadium 15 years ago. We're not a penny closer now than we were then. So besides coming up with a new drawing every 5 years, we'll probably drop the program before we build a new stadium.

Feels like I'm looking in a mirror.

[mvfcfan]

Feels like I'm looking in a mirror.

Was / Is that the story at WIU too? Eastern IL also had big plans of building a new stadium a decade ago, but I haven't heard anything new about it for years now. I think our programs just draw up plans once in a while hoping to get a few donations or money from the state, but they don't actually have a real plan to make it a reality.

[caribbeanhen]

Illinois sounds like no place to be

[ST_Lawson]

Was / Is that the story at WIU too? Eastern IL also had big plans of building a new stadium a decade ago, but I haven't heard anything new about it for years now. I think our programs just draw up plans once in a while hoping to get a few donations or money from the state, but they don't actually have a real plan to make it a reality.

Yup. They'd been talking about needing to redo our west/home side stands (the side with the pressbox) for decades. The pressbox is extremely old and rickety (https://stadiumjourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Hanson-Field-Press-Box.jpg), the concrete on the home side is crumbling and is probably a "life-safety" issue, the backside of that part of the stadium is an eyesore that they've somewhat hidden with a row of pine trees. ~5 years ago they even had a company put together a bunch of very nice renderings (you can see those here: https://imgur.com/a/7ANotnk).

Since then...not a word about it.

Our east/band/visitors side along with new concessions and restroom buildings (https://www.laverdiereconstruction.biz/projects/parks-recreation/fullsize/WIU-hanson-field.jpg) were completely redone in 2007, and are fairly nice...the stands are pretty basic metal bleachers (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/a4/c2/7ea4c2a36114308433961189040b0d3e.jpg), but they're solid and they do the job.
Then we got turf to replace our grass in 2011. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzp1qP7g3mA)
But the west side (https://westerncourier.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/8fe2e940015b1acb771023013a49c238.jpg) hasn't really had anything done with it since it was built back in 1950, and it is very much showing it's age.

What I heard at the time (in 2016) was that they estimated it'd take ~4 years to raise $10m to get started on it. But there have been zero updates on it since then.
To be fair, since then we've had a 2-year state budget impasse/crisis, which rolled right into this whole COVID situation, so I don't blame them for being a bit behind schedule, but some kind of update would be nice. A progress bar maybe (of the fundraising for it)...anything.

[Sycamore62]

We were 10 years away from getting a new stadium 15 years ago. We're not a penny closer now than we were then. So besides coming up with a new drawing every 5 years, we'll probably drop the program before we build a new stadium. As you can tell we take the program so seriously that we are the only ones not attempting to play in the Spring (in the MVFC).

We dont even know how many pennies we need. just say "if we build a stadium here's how much we need, who's in?"

[Professor Chaos]

So how do the rest of you see the spring shaking out in the MVFC? How many playoff teams? I think there's a pretty clear gap right now between the top half and bottom half of the conference. If we had a normal season with a full 24 team field I think there would be a good shot that 5 MVFC teams make the playoffs. But with only 8 games all being MVFC games and just 5 available at-large spots I'm thinking 3 playoff teams tops out of the MVFC and maybe just 2. Here's how I see it (in parenthesis is the difference in my rankings from the preseason MVFC coach's poll - my playoff picks in bold - playoff bubble in italics).

1. NDSU (-)
2. Illinois St (+2)
3. SDSU (-)
4. UNI (-2)
5. SIU (-)
6. USD (-)
7. YSU (+1)
8. UND (-1)
9. MSU (-)
10. WIU (-1)

I think Illinois St will be incredibly solid especially on the defensive side of the ball. I'd watch out for SIU as well... Javon Williams is an absolute stud and could carry them. I think NDSU, SDSU, and UNI all have big holes to fill after losses from their 2019 teams and what would've been the 2020 teams but you'd have to assume they all reload and don't fall off too far. I'm interested to see how Missouri St does this spring... they outplayed UCA twice this fall but were done in by turnovers. Can Bobby Petrino pull them out of the MVFC cellar?

[ST_Lawson]

The real question for me is....will we win a game this year?
Our home opener is Missouri State, so I guess I'll find out pretty quickly.

[caribbeanhen]

So how do the rest of you see the spring shaking out in the MVFC? How many playoff teams? I think there's a pretty clear gap right now between the top half and bottom half of the conference. If we had a normal season with a full 24 team field I think there would be a good shot that 5 MVFC teams make the playoffs. But with only 8 games all being MVFC games and just 5 available at-large spots I'm thinking 3 playoff teams tops out of the MVFC and maybe just 2. Here's how I see it (in parenthesis is the difference in my rankings from the preseason MVFC coach's poll - my playoff picks in bold - playoff bubble in italics).

1. McCartney(-)
2. Wings(+2)
3. Wings(-)
4. Wings(-2)
5. Wings(-)
6. Wings(-)
7. Wings(+1)
8. Wings(-1)
9. Wings(-)
10. Wings(-1)

I think Illinois St will be incredibly solid especially on the defensive side of the ball. I'd watch out for SIU as well... Javon Williams is an absolute stud and could carry them. I think NDSU, SDSU, and UNI all have big holes to fill after losses from their 2019 teams and what would've been the 2020 teams but you'd have to assume they all reload and don't fall off too far. I'm interested to see how Missouri St does this spring... they outplayed UCA twice this fall but were done in by turnovers. Can Bobby Petrino pull them out of the MVFC cellar?

Come on Professor nothings changing xcoffeex

[BeamMeUp]

I think there are more people outside of Northeast Ohio who think YSU can finish higher than the basement than around town. I wish Coach Phillips luck. Although I have low expectations for spring, with the numerous transfers that should become eligible for fall, I do look forward to seeing what the product looks like in October.

Stay safe. Beam Me Up. Take it easy on the Guins Bison.

[Redbird 4th & short]

So how do the rest of you see the spring shaking out in the MVFC? How many playoff teams? I think there's a pretty clear gap right now between the top half and bottom half of the conference. If we had a normal season with a full 24 team field I think there would be a good shot that 5 MVFC teams make the playoffs. But with only 8 games all being MVFC games and just 5 available at-large spots I'm thinking 3 playoff teams tops out of the MVFC and maybe just 2. Here's how I see it (in parenthesis is the difference in my rankings from the preseason MVFC coach's poll - my playoff picks in bold - playoff bubble in italics).

1. NDSU (-)
2. Illinois St (+2)
3. SDSU (-)
4. UNI (-2)
5. SIU (-)
6. USD (-)
7. YSU (+1)
8. UND (-1)
9. MSU (-)
10. WIU (-1)

I think Illinois St will be incredibly solid especially on the defensive side of the ball. I'd watch out for SIU as well... Javon Williams is an absolute stud and could carry them. I think NDSU, SDSU, and UNI all have big holes to fill after losses from their 2019 teams and what would've been the 2020 teams but you'd have to assume they all reload and don't fall off too far. I'm interested to see how Missouri St does this spring... they outplayed UCA twice this fall but were done in by turnovers. Can Bobby Petrino pull them out of the MVFC cellar?

Per my post 2 pages back, our defense will be very solid, but in no way will be dominant like 2019 or like we expected heading into fall 2020. We lost 3 stud starters due to pandemic : all conference DE McKnight (transfer, FBS starter), Safety Uphoff (preparing for NFL, Reese's top Safety) and CB Taylor (transfer, FBS starter), plus 1 due to normal graduation (Kirk). And our 7 deep at LB in 2019, lost 4, though have 3 starters back and picked up FBS LB from Tennessee who should be good.

So defense will be good, but took big hits to depth from 2019. We'll be good but not dominant .. need to stay healthy on defense, and need offense to figure out how to move chains and clock. Or the lack of depth on defense will become a problem this spring.

Real problem is on offense ..

Offensively .. we didn't just lose RB James Robinson who was 90% of our offense in playoff run after our QB Davis went down and our 2nd string stud RB Proctor (500 rush yards) both went down with injuries late in season .. so no starting QB and no serious back up RB is why Robinson suddenly carried 40 times a game the first 2 rounds. Note, we threw just 26 passes in 3 playoff games combined.

Well Mrs Lincoln, we have some more bad news .. we've since lost QB Davis (decided to prepare for post college football - perplexing I know !) and we just learned our 2nd string stud RB Proctor left the program. Now our 2 deep at all the skill positions is filled with a lot of FR & SO, mostly unproven and undeveloped.

Bottom line, there will likely be no seniors and just 1 junior (stud WR Edgar) in our skill positions 2 deep on offense this spring (excl TE) .. maybe even our 3 deep as well.

Returning starter stats are very low at QB and RB.

RB: returning 100 of 2700 rush yards returning (2,000 Robinson, 500 Proctor).Note, we love our crop of 3 RS FR RBs, plus a true FR ... but they are completely unproven. You will see a lot more speed and agility, and depth that could pan out sooner than I think. Most RB reps will be the 3 RS FR and 1 SO.

QB: returning 46 of 268 pass attempts - we like dual threat SO QB Bryce Jefferson. Keeps his cool in pocket, can run, and seems to see the field. He might develop as passer, but he threw just 26 passes in 3 playoff games .. needs a lot of work, but proved he could handle big stage in playoffs .. except Robinson is gone. And now our #2 this spring is a true FR from a small HS ... yikes.

WR: returning 100 of 130 receptions returning - given how many starts we lost to injury at WR, and how much we love our depth and youth at WR, this position group is very strong and has much more upside. Problem is, we don't know if we have a QB who can even throw for sure yet.

TE: were pretty good here, but TE is not really a skill position at ISU .. they are mostly offensive lineman who go in motion a lot and block down field.

So, I'm just not optimistic about spring 2021. 4th is highest I would put us - this will mean, our youngs guys on offense are developing, and we didn't have a lot of injuries on defense. More likely, going to be lower ... 5th is much more realistic top side.

I'll probably be much more optimistic on offense in fall 2021 and beyond .. we are very deep with young skill guys we like a lot on offense. And I never worry about defense with Spack ... his defenses are always good to very good .. almost always top 3 in MVFC, by far the toughest defenses in FCS.

[Professor Chaos]

Per my post 2 pages back, our defense will be very solid, but in no way will be dominant like 2019 or like we expected heading into fall 2020. We lost 3 stud starters due to pandemic : all conference DE McKnight (transfer, FBS starter), Safety Uphoff (preparing for NFL, Reese's top Safety) and CB Taylor (transfer, FBS starter), plus 1 due to normal graduation (Kirk). And our 7 deep at LB in 2019, lost 4, though have 3 starters back and picked up FBS LB from Tennessee who should be good.

So defense will be good, but took big hits to depth from 2019. We'll be good but not dominant .. need to stay healthy on defense, and need offense to figure out how to move chains and clock. Or the lack of depth on defense will become a problem this spring.

Real problem is on offense ..

Offensively .. we didn't just lose RB James Robinson who was 90% of our offense in playoff run after our QB Davis went down and our 2nd string stud RB Proctor (500 rush yards) both went down with injuries late in season .. so no starting QB and no serious back up RB is why Robinson suddenly carried 40 times a game the first 2 rounds. Note, we threw just 26 passes in 3 playoff games combined.

Well Mrs Lincoln, we have some more bad news .. we've since lost QB Davis (decided to prepare for post college football - perplexing I know !) and we just learned our 2nd string stud RB Proctor left the program. Now our 2 deep at all the skill positions is filled with a lot of FR & SO, mostly unproven and undeveloped.

Bottom line, there will likely be no seniors and just 1 junior (stud WR Edgar) in our skill positions 2 deep on offense this spring (excl TE) .. maybe even our 3 deep as well.

Returning starter stats are very low at QB and RB.

RB: returning 100 of 2700 rush yards returning (2,000 Robinson, 500 Proctor).Note, we love our crop of 3 RS FR RBs, plus a true FR ... but they are completely unproven. You will see a lot more speed and agility, and depth that could pan out sooner than I think. Most RB reps will be the 3 RS FR and 1 SO.

QB: returning 46 of 268 pass attempts - we like dual threat SO QB Bryce Jefferson. Keeps his cool in pocket, can run, and seems to see the field. He might develop as passer, but he threw just 26 passes in 3 playoff games .. needs a lot of work, but proved he could handle big stage in playoffs .. except Robinson is gone. And now our #2 this spring is a true FR from a small HS ... yikes.

WR: returning 100 of 130 receptions returning - given how many starts we lost to injury at WR, and how much we love our depth and youth at WR, this position group is very strong and has much more upside. Problem is, we don't know if we have a QB who can even throw for sure yet.

TE: were pretty good here, but TE is not really a skill position at ISU .. they are mostly offensive lineman who go in motion a lot and block down field.

So, I'm just not optimistic about spring 2021. 4th is highest I would put us - this will mean, our youngs guys on offense are developing, and we didn't have a lot of injuries on defense. More likely, going to be lower ... 5th is much more realistic top side.

I'll probably be much more optimistic on offense in fall 2021 and beyond .. we are very deep with young skill guys we like a lot on offense. And I never worry about defense with Spack ... his defenses are always good to very good .. almost always top 3 in MVFC, by far the toughest defenses in FCS.
Who's your stud DT? I think he was only a sophomore last year but he gave NDSU's O-line all kinds of problems in the quarters. Having a good anchor at DT/NG is always a great start towards having a high quality defense. He reminded me of Khalen Saunders from WIU (now with the Kansas City Chiefs).

I thought Jefferson showed some flashes in the playoffs last year he just had the reins pulled so tightly on him it was hard to tell how good he might be.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Who's your stud DT? I think he was only a sophomore last year but he gave NDSU's O-line all kinds of problems in the quarters. Having a good anchor at DT/NG is always a great start towards having a high quality defense. He reminded me of Khalen Saunders from WIU (now with the Kansas City Chiefs).

I thought Jefferson showed some flashes in the playoffs last year he just had the reins pulled so tightly on him it was hard to tell how good he might be.

John Ridgeway .. he's such a load at 6'6" and 325 lbs, and makes everyone around him better like youre saying. Amazing thing is he showed up at 285 lbs. He was home grown (Normal IL) played football and wrestled ... was state champ wrestler in HS where he was always told to lose weight. So it only took Spack a year to put 40 lbs on him. Got to believe we will see him on Sundays eventually. Big, hard to move, and moves well, works hard, etc.


We kind of like Jefferson, but aren't yet sure what he can be. You are dead on right about the reins. Spack is that way .. he tends to stifle quarterbacks a lot. Spacks track record recruiting and developing HS QBs is abysmal. His best HS recruited QB was Jake Kolbe and by far. Spack has never had a HS recruit QB start as a senior in 11 years ... not one. He inherited Matt Brown and was very lucky to have. If Matt Brown would have played for a more offensive minded coach, he would have put up video game like numbers .. the dude was so talented and fearless, even playing under Spack.

Anyway, we'll see. Note, the reason Spack had demoted Jefferson from #2 to #3 mid season was he didn't show enough intensity. Translated, not much rattles him .. so there's some hope .. if Spack will let him play a bit. No more Robinson, we'll have to figure something out.

So if I'm being honest .. watching Robinson play in NFL for 1-15 Jaguars and still killing it. It makes me wonder if our offense was worse than we realized in 2019 ... in particular, our OL .. just saying. That and MVFC defenses and trenches are bar none the best in FCS. We really struggled against MoST and YSU the last 2 games after QB Davis went down, including Robinson running. But then got to playoffs and steamrolled SEMO and UCA just with our run game.

Back to my original point about ISUr for spring season .. our best hope is that other teams were also hit hard by pandemic departures: QB Davis, RB Proctor, DE McKnight, Safety Uphoff, CB Taylor ... lot of 1st teamers gone from fall. Other thing that sucks is we play the top 3 all on road this spring ... NDSU, UNI, SDSU.

We shall see if I'm wrong.

[ST_Lawson]

our best hope is that other teams were also hit hard by pandemic departures

I don't think we had many pandemic departures at all. Then again...getting most of the team back after only winning 1 game (barely) last season...may not be a good thing for us. We'll see, but I don't have a ton of hope for this season.

[nodak651]

I think UND finishes higher than their pre season ranking, partly because so many teams have had so much attrician, and because UND has been lucky enough to only lose one player to transfer or opt out, and he didnt play much.

Freshman QB looked promising in his one game vs Sam Houston. Might have arguably the best overall cb group in country. Otis is back at RB and he has huge upside. OL is pretty much all back and much bigger after a failed weight loss experiment last year (for quickness or something? Didnt work)

Beat MSU last year and should have beat Webber as well if not for a muffed catch during a kick return at the end of the game.

Depth at most positions is as good as ever.

[Sycamore62]

I thought we had an outside shot to go undefeated this spring. I think there is a better chance now.

[dewey]

I thought we had an outside shot to go undefeated this spring. I think there is a better chance now.

Agreed. I don't think the Sycamore's lose a game this spring:-)

Dewey

[Professor Chaos]

And the MVFC already has it's first COVID related postponement more than a week before the first conference game is scheduled to kick off:

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1359536937967697920

[Redbird 4th & short]

ISUr at MoST .. high will be 15 degrees that afternoon.

Who's idea was this ?

[Redbird 4th & short]

I don't think we had many pandemic departures at all. Then again...getting most of the team back after only winning 1 game (barely) last season...may not be a good thing for us. We'll see, but I don't have a ton of hope for this season.

thought I responded days ago ?

Anyway, good to hear for WIU. You guys always impressed me with how competitive you stayed in the top FCS conference despite all the challenges.

How do you like your current coaching staff ? And how was your recruiting the last offseason and this current one ?

[Hammerhead]

ISUr at MoST .. high will be 15 degrees that afternoon.

Who's idea was this ?

SDSU's first home game is March 6th and the average high on that date is 31 degrees in Fargo and it can't be that much warmer in Brookings.

[Yote 53]

SDSU's first home game is March 6th and the average high on that date is 31 degrees in Fargo and it can't be that much warmer in Brookings.
31 degrees? Considering it is -11* right now at 9AM in the morning that would be a balmy day. Light jacket, maybe just a hoodie that day.

[Redbird 4th & short]

SDSU's first home game is March 6th and the average high on that date is 31 degrees in Fargo and it can't be that much warmer in Brookings.
well I'm an idiot .. I was convinced ISUr was at MoST tomorrow. Oops, it starts next week .. 10 day forecast puts the temp at 43 degrees and sunny on day 8 of 10. And we all know these forecasts always hold up. So .... great idea to start the spring season on Feb 20 instead of Feb 13 !!!!!!!

xhurrayxxhypedxxbowx

[ST_Lawson]

thought I responded days ago ?

Anyway, good to hear for WIU. You guys always impressed me with how competitive you stayed in the top FCS conference despite all the challenges.

How do you like your current coaching staff ? And how was your recruiting the last offseason and this current one ?

Current coaching staff - honestly I don't really feel like I've had a decent chance to actually evaluate them yet. After Coach Fisher left, Coach Elliott went 5-6 his first year at the reigns, then things kinda fell apart in 2019 when we only (barely) won 1 game (beat South Dakota 38-34). Like most schools, it's been 15 months since our guys have played a down of football. Coaching staff hasn't really changed much over that time. Before COVID, I figured he'd probably get one more season before being let go (assuming little to no improvement), which would have been fall 2020. With the current situation, probably he'll get to the end of this fall 2021 season before the higher-ups make a decision. From everything I've heard, he's a great guy personally, but there's plenty of great guys out there who just aren't that great at coaching (or at least, at being a HC), and it just kinda feels to me like Coach Elliot falls into that category.

Recruiting - Like many schools right now...a lot of transfers. As you know, those can be kinda a "crap shoot". Some of our best players were transfers (RB Aaron Stecker was at Wisconsin his first two years before transferring to WIU), but we've had plenty who didn't pan out. I've heard pretty good things about our receiving corps with the guys who've come back (had a lot of injured receivers in that 2019 season) and some guys who have come in. Now, if we have a QB who can throw to them or an O-line who can block for that QB...that's the question. I think our DBs got the most in terms of transfer guys coming in...guys from Iowa State, Mississippi State, Grambling, Georgia Southern, Southeastern Louisiana, Lamar, Indiana State, plus a handful of guys coming in from JUCOs/CCs. We did lose our only first-team all-conference player from last year though when RB Clint Ratkovich transferred to Northern Illinois (https://niuhuskies.com/news/2021/1/13/football-huskies-add-transfers-rocky-lombardi-and-clint-ratkovich.aspx), so we don't have a lot of returning "big-name talent" from 2019 (not that there's going to be a lot of "big-name talent" on a team that went 1-11). Overall, it just kinda feels like we've hit a big "reset button" on things...and who knows how it'll all turn out.

One of the incoming guys I'm really interested in seeing is Tre Maronic. He's listed as a RB, but his position is really more of an "all-around" offensive player/"super back". The interesting thing is the struggles that he and his family have been through involving sports injuries. He suffered what they thought was going to be a senior season-ending collarbone injury that would take 6-8 weeks of recovery, but he worked hard (and had a bit of luck) and was cleared to return to the field after 3 weeks: https://goldcountrymedia.com/news/151500/from-devastation-to-division-i/
A few years before that, his brother had a miraculous recovery from a near-fatal traumatic brain injury: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAZELTuNVCo
Maybe he'll end up being great, maybe he won't, but I don't for a second doubt his work ethic and his appreciation of every chance he gets to be on the field.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Current coaching staff - honestly I don't really feel like I've had a decent chance to actually evaluate them yet. After Coach Fisher left, Coach Elliott went 5-6 his first year at the reigns, then things kinda fell apart in 2019 when we only (barely) won 1 game (beat South Dakota 38-34). Like most schools, it's been 15 months since our guys have played a down of football. Coaching staff hasn't really changed much over that time. Before COVID, I figured he'd probably get one more season before being let go (assuming little to no improvement), which would have been fall 2020. With the current situation, probably he'll get to the end of this fall 2021 season before the higher-ups make a decision. From everything I've heard, he's a great guy personally, but there's plenty of great guys out there who just aren't that great at coaching (or at least, at being a HC), and it just kinda feels to me like Coach Elliot falls into that category.

Recruiting - Like many schools right now...a lot of transfers. As you know, those can be kinda a "crap shoot". Some of our best players were transfers (RB Aaron Stecker was at Wisconsin his first two years before transferring to WIU), but we've had plenty who didn't pan out. I've heard pretty good things about our receiving corps with the guys who've come back (had a lot of injured receivers in that 2019 season) and some guys who have come in. Now, if we have a QB who can throw to them or an O-line who can block for that QB...that's the question. I think our DBs got the most in terms of transfer guys coming in...guys from Iowa State, Mississippi State, Grambling, Georgia Southern, Southeastern Louisiana, Lamar, Indiana State, plus a handful of guys coming in from JUCOs/CCs. We did lose our only first-team all-conference player from last year though when RB Clint Ratkovich transferred to Northern Illinois (https://niuhuskies.com/news/2021/1/13/football-huskies-add-transfers-rocky-lombardi-and-clint-ratkovich.aspx), so we don't have a lot of returning "big-name talent" from 2019 (not that there's going to be a lot of "big-name talent" on a team that went 1-11). Overall, it just kinda feels like we've hit a big "reset button" on things...and who knows how it'll all turn out.

One of the incoming guys I'm really interested in seeing is Tre Maronic. He's listed as a RB, but his position is really more of an "all-around" offensive player/"super back". The interesting thing is the struggles that he and his family have been through involving sports injuries. He suffered what they thought was going to be a senior season-ending collarbone injury that would take 6-8 weeks of recovery, but he worked hard (and had a bit of luck) and was cleared to return to the field after 3 weeks: https://goldcountrymedia.com/news/151500/from-devastation-to-division-i/
A few years before that, his brother had a miraculous recovery from a near-fatal traumatic brain injury: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAZELTuNVCo
Maybe he'll end up being great, maybe he won't, but I don't for a second doubt his work ethic and his appreciation of every chance he gets to be on the field.
You guys gave us fits last year at your place Not to diminish their performance, but we came in flat and you guys came out with game plan that apparently caught us flat footed, and left us on our heels defensively. So we went to bend don't break on defense. We won 28-14, but we were outplayed statistically .. offensively we had just 2 sustained drives ... frustrating game to watch. You guys played us very tough.

If you read my earlier post, we also have a lot of unknowns. The cupboard is plenty full, but too inexperienced on offense, and lost a lot of starters and 2nd stringers from our 2019 defense. I view this spring as development for the fall .. we will struggle a lot in spring, then show some promise in fall .. I hope.

[Professor Chaos]

Current betting lines for this week's MVFC games at betanysports.eu (which I believe has taken the place of 5dimes):

SDSU (-3) @ UNI
SIU (-3) @ UND
ISU (-6) @ MSU
YSU @ NDSU (-25)

[POD Knows]

Current betting lines for this week's MVFC games at betanysports.eu (which I believe has taken the place of 5dimes):

SDSU (-3) @ UNI
SIU (-3) @ UND
ISU (-6) @ MSU
YSU @ NDSU (-25)JFC, Give me YSU all day long with the points, #BOOKIT

[The Yo Show]

Ask and you shall receive! I will give you YSU all day at -25. I personally will take NDSU all day at -25.
(This is a joke but for clarification as it turns out my initials are JFC, although I know that is not what you meant there)

[ST_Lawson]

Illinois State at Missouri State has been postponed due to weather/field conditions. Rescheduled for April 17.

https://twitter.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1362146161977606146

Looks like all other MVFC games this weekend are indoors (at UNI, at UND, and at NDSU), so those should be fine.

[Professor Chaos]

Illinois State at Missouri State has been postponed due to weather/field conditions. Rescheduled for April 17.

https://twitter.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1362146161977606146

Looks like all other MVFC games this weekend are indoors (at UNI, at UND, and at NDSU), so those should be fine.
xconfusedx

It's an artificial surface there and Saturday's forecast for Springfield is party cloudy with a high of 38 and 5-10 mph winds with no expected precip: https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/f2aa916fa2b53793dee31bbf5c34008d56642510cb7bea5ecb a300a4b20f2c4d

Supposed to be 25 and partly cloudy tomorrow and 32 and sunny on Friday. Must be because of all the cold they got this past week... or maybe the teams had practice schedules disrupted??? That's really unfortunate since now 4 of 10 teams have already lost their scheduling buffer for COVID issues. Looking very unlikely that everyone will get in their 8 conference games.

[ST_Lawson]

xconfusedx

It's an artificial surface there and Saturday's forecast for Springfield is party cloudy with a high of 38 and 5-10 mph winds with no expected precip: https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/f2aa916fa2b53793dee31bbf5c34008d56642510cb7bea5ecb a300a4b20f2c4d

Supposed to be 25 and partly cloudy tomorrow and 32 and sunny on Friday. Must be because of all the cold they got this past week... or maybe the teams had practice schedules disrupted??? That's really unfortunate since now 4 of 10 teams have already lost their scheduling buffer for COVID issues. Looking very unlikely that everyone will get in their 8 conference games.

My guess is it's more the snow that's the issue. Idk if they have the small snow plows that can be driven on the field...in southern Missouri, they might not. Also, it's probably a convenient way out of playing because they probably haven't been able to practice much, if at all.

[Redbird 4th & short]

My guess is it's more the snow that's the issue. Idk if they have the small snow plows that can be driven on the field...in southern Missouri, they might not. Also, it's probably a convenient way out of playing because they probably haven't been able to practice much, if at all.
Can't be weather ... 37, sunny, 1% chance of precipitation, light winds (9 mph) ... if this were a late November or December playoff game, we would be fine with this.

And no way is it field conditions. Plow it and couple days of sunshine, the field is fine. My driveway is perfectly clear thanks to sunshine.

Probably the practice thing for MoST ... someone reported MoST has no indoor facility. ISUr has a bad one, the old basketball fieldhouse where Doug Collins played his basketball games. Terrible surface, but ok size, has HVAC and a roof.

But thinking about this more, the weather has been terrible in Midwest so very limited practices I would imagine.

[ST_Lawson]

Can't be weather ... 37, sunny, 1% chance of precipitation, light winds (9 mph) ... if this were a late November or December playoff game, we would be fine with this.

And no way is it field conditions. Plow it and couple days of sunshine, the field is fine. My driveway is perfectly clear thanks to sunshine.

Probably the practice thing for MoST ... someone reported MoST has no indoor facility. ISUr has a bad one, the old basketball fieldhouse where Doug Collins played his basketball games. Terrible surface, but ok size, has HVAC and a roof.

But thinking about this more, the weather has been terrible in Midwest so very limited practices I would imagine.

I'm just guessing, I don't really know. I just know that some places are still having a hard time with weather. I know personally (in Macomb), with the additional snow we had yesterday, I had a hard time driving across town last night, and I have an AWD vehicle. I know that we have plows that can clear snow off the field, but a place that averages less than a half inch of snowfall over a month timeframe in December, January, and February...they may not. I'm not saying the weather will be bad this weekend specifically, but if they haven't been able to dig out from what they've gotten the last couple of weeks, then it could be an issue.

More likely it's the lack of practice that's the issue. We don't have an indoor facility that our team can practice in either, so I don't really know if our team has had any opportunities to run any actual plays over the last 2 weeks. If Missouri State is in the same boat, a game this weekend could have been pretty rough.

[Kemo]

Let's be real. "Bobby Ball" doesn't work when it's cold and snowing. That's the real reason the ISU-Red/Misery State game was postponed.

[skinny_uncle]

I know here that we had ice followed by snow. Not the easiest thing to clear. It has been below freezing all week. I think the Misery State weather has been similar. Travel could be an issue. It is not the easiest stuff to drive on.

[Sycamore62]

I drove by EIU and saw soccer teams practicing on their turf. snow was piled up but i couldnt tell how clear the field was.

[Redbird 4th & short]

once snow is cleared, the cleared area will clean and dry up easily after just a couple days of sun, even in weather like we've had. The roads are clear, and shoveled driveways and sidewalks are clear, and the turf is already and will be clear, except where it is piled up on the side of course. Turf's are sloped and designed to drain and absorb heat.

Field and weather conditions are zero factor. Practice considerations .. too bad. Anyone withour an indoor facility is at same disadvantage. While we have Horton fieldhouse, the surface complete sucks .. it is like an old outdoor track. Nothing like any kind of football field. You can bet the field MoST was practicing on was actual turf.

Rumor on redbird forum is that Spack is very pissed this game was postponed.

And the forecast right now is 37 and sunny at game time, then 41 degrees and sunny by end of game .. it will be plenty warm with the sun beating on the field. This is considered perfect playoff weather. We played at least 3 of 4 playoff games in 2014-15 in worse weather.

Average high temp last week in Normal, IL was 11 degrees over the entire week. Springfield, MO avg temp last week was 21.

And now, we have already lost our only make-up week if we play someone else who can't play .. it's all BS. The more I think about this, the more pissed I get.

[ST_Lawson]

not f-ing hard .. and it has been 10 degrees colder, and I'm assuming more snow in upper midwest.

Field and weather conditions are not the problem. Those pussies should have to come to Hancock in April for that BS.

...

There's something wrong with your image. I'm getting about a half-mile worth of this kind of stuff...

https://i.imgur.com/L1lcLQc.jpg

[POD Knows]

There's something wrong with your image. I'm getting about a half-mile worth of this kind of stuff...

https://i.imgur.com/L1lcLQc.jpgI sent him a PM wonder what the hell he had posted

[ST_Lawson]

I sent him a PM wonder what the hell he had posted

It's trying to be an image. That's actually the MIME code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME) version of a photo, although I'm not quite sure how it was posted to turn it into that.

[Redbird 4th & short]

There's something wrong with your image. I'm getting about a half-mile worth of this kind of stuff...

https://i.imgur.com/L1lcLQc.jpg
yeah, just deleted it. It comes from using "snipping tool" app .. very quick and easy. Most times it works, sometimes it does that.

It was just a pic of Hancock field being perfectly cleared from earlier this week .. snow mounds way off to sides and ends, but field looked perfect .. turf is like that when sun shines for day or 2.

Anyway, high in Springfield, MO today ... 42 degrees and sunny... most football players won't wear sleeves in that weather. Patty V just moved to top of my sh-t list again. She felt pressured from a one and done FBS coach, and over ruled an 11 year coach who has made it to quarters 4 times since 2012. I guess we don't get any cred in her eyes, but Petrino does.

Wonder where he'll be next year Patty V ??

Spack is pissed, but will understate it publicly.

[POD Knows]

I know here that we had ice followed by snow. Not the easiest thing to clear. It has been below freezing all week. I think the Misery State weather has been similar. Travel could be an issue. It is not the easiest stuff to drive on.Wow, way to man up against freaking UND, they must be the best team in country given the beatdown today.

[dewey]

Looks like the Missouri State soccer team was able to practice and the field looked good.

https://amp.news-leader.com/amp/4514127001?__twitter_impression=true

I hope Illinois State boat races the Bears....along with every other MVFC team for those shenanigans.

Dewey

[Chalupa Batman]

Looks like the Missouri State soccer team was able to practice and the field looked good.

https://amp.news-leader.com/amp/4514127001?__twitter_impression=true

I hope Illinois State boat races the Bears....along with every other MVFC team for those shenanigans.

Dewey

Bobby’s doing something shady?

Shocking


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[Redbird 4th & short]

Looks like the Missouri State soccer team was able to practice and the field looked good.

https://amp.news-leader.com/amp/4514127001?__twitter_impression=true

I hope Illinois State boat races the Bears....along with every other MVFC team for those shenanigans.

Dewey
It was 42 and sunny in Springfield yesterday. No sleeves football weather for Redbirds. And it's not like this wasn't forecasted a week ago when it got canceled. Spack is probably even more pissed off now.

Not sure we'll be boat racing too many teams this spring though. I already reported couple times .. pandemic departures hurt our defense, especially our secondary. 2019 fall season would have been special one for our defense (not our offense, mind you) ... we were so loaded. We'll still be a strong defense this spring .. but our secondary and depth will be ordinary .. until it proves otherwise. Our offense is one big question mark .. plenty of talent, but completely unproven and undeveloped ... it is pot luck on offense this year.

edit: just read article. I checked the avg temps in Springfield, MO versus Normal, IL ... it was 10 degrees colder in Normal, IL the 2 prior weeks ... such BS !!! I'll bet they purposely left areas looking messy with snow. Just clear it, and the sun melts whatever residue there is away. It did it in Normal, IL where it was 10 degrees colder. I tried to post pic of field, but it went haywire ... our field was perfectly ready ... because we cleared it and the sun did the rest.

Can only guess Petrino was sucking up to Patty V and swing his FBS weight around. Ironically, FBS would have played this game no matter what.

Patty V ... please explain !!!

[dewey]

I am listening to Kyle Moats (Missouri State AD) from Bison 1660 am 21 February The Insiders. They shutdown the campus for 2 days because of the 11 inches of snow and the athletics department doesn't have a designated grounds crew to remove snow. He said the priority was the main campus first and then the athletic fields later.

Dewey

[Laker]

Looks like the Missouri State soccer team was able to practice and the field looked good.

I hope Illinois State boat races the Bears....along with every other MVFC team for those shenanigans.

Dewey

I'm with you. I remember a Friday night snowstorm at Mankato during the playoffs. I get to the stadium and the wrestlers are still scooping snow. Coach woke them early and told them to bring shovels instead of their indoor workout. Grounds crew did the field, wrestlers did the stands. I'm a basketball coach but I still donate to the wrestlers because of that day.

If the soccer team could clean off their field, so could the football team. I'm not buying their excuse.

[Drblankstare]

Gonna be a long spring for the Penguins. There’s some talent there but that offense has got a ways to go. Actually so does NDSU’s, didn’t think they looked very sharp either.

[ysubigred]

Gonna be a long spring for the Penguins. There’s some talent there but that offense has got a ways to go. Actually so does NDSU’s, didn’t think they looked very sharp either.Umm.. NDSU's the best team in the country playing at home. YSU did better this year than they did the last time out against NDSU.

YSU has no expectations for the spring, just stay out of intensive care, learn and grow. Personally I liked their effort minus the QB's and RB's..

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[SDFS]

I'm with you. I remember a Friday night snowstorm at Mankato during the playoffs. I get to the stadium and the wrestlers are still scooping snow. Coach woke them early and told them to bring shovels instead of their indoor workout. Grounds crew did the field, wrestlers did the stands. I'm a basketball coach but I still donate to the wrestlers because of that day.

If the soccer team could clean off their field, so could the football team. I'm not buying their excuse.

UND the football team would clear the field prior to practice. I you have a 100 guys out there will shovels it does take too long.

[kab]

Will be a long spring season
who knows how many games are cancelled and what decisions are made by each school, I can see games being cancelled for lame reasons
not too excited

[dewey]

Umm.. NDSU's the best team in the country playing at home. YSU did better this year than they did the last time out against NDSU.

YSU has no expectations for the spring, just stay out of intensive care, learn and grow. Personally I liked their effort minus the QB's and RB's..

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There is a big difference between the fall 2020 Bison and this 2021 spring version of the Bison.

I thought the Penguins did a good job of hanging around. The NDSU offense didn't look very sharp.

Dewey

[ysubigred]

There is a big difference between the fall 2020 Bison and this 2021 spring version of the Bison.

I thought the Penguins did a good job of hanging around. The NDSU offense didn't look very sharp.

DeweyYSU had a coach/s change, defections and well over 400 days since the last game. Either the Bison suck or YSU just might be a bit better than expected? I hope it's the latter...


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[Gil Dobie]

Pretty basic offense for NDSU, with Noland's first start. Took a while for the Bison defense to adjust to the QB switch by YSU. Still like the RB depth after Wilson was sidelined. Bussey and Gonnella looked good.

[Professor Chaos]

Pretty basic offense for NDSU, with Noland's first start. Took a while for the Bison defense to adjust to the QB switch by YSU. Still like the RB depth after Wilson was sidelined. Bussey and Gonnella looked good.
You could tell Gonnella was a true freshman on some of his runs though... seems like he runs with his pads a bit too high and he got de-cleated a couple of times. Welcome to college football kid! :)

Bussey will be fun to watch... or not watch maybe since you can't even see him when he gets to the LOS. He's listed at 5'5" and generously at 160 lbs I'd say.

[Gil Dobie]

You could tell Gonnella was a true freshman on some of his runs though... seems like he runs with his pads a bit too high and he got de-cleated a couple of times. Welcome to college football kid! :)

Bussey will be fun to watch... or not watch maybe since you can't even see him when he gets to the LOS. He's listed at 5'5" and generously at 160 lbs I'd say.

One run specifically, Gonnella looked surprised to get thru the line.

[Professor Chaos]

Betting lines for this week's games via betanysports.eu:

UNI (-6.5) @ YSU
USD @ ISU (-6)
SDSU (-7.5) @ UND
NDSU (-16) @ SIU
MSU (-4.5) @ WIU

[BeamMeUp]

If you would have told me YSU would be within 6.5pts on any line the first month of the season, especially against a program they have a history of struggles against like UNI, I would have told you that you're crazy.

[Sioux24/7]

Question, what happened to AGS? Seems to be very little talk on here or I am looking in the wrong spots. I thought this used to be really active. Is it just because of the spring season?

[ST_Lawson]

Question, what happened to AGS? Seems to be very little talk on here or I am looking in the wrong spots. I thought this used to be really active. Is it just because of the spring season?

Odd season, large number of teams not playing. I think it'll probably bounce back in the fall if everything is back to mostly normal then.

[POD Knows]

Question, what happened to AGS? Seems to be very little talk on here or I am looking in the wrong spots. I thought this used to be really active. Is it just because of the spring season?Says the guy with 16 posts since 2012, pot meet kettle but yea, this season just seems weird.

[Professor Chaos]

Odd season, large number of teams not playing. I think it'll probably bounce back in the fall if everything is back to mostly normal then.
I'd think so too. Even amongst the teams that are playing I think there's a large subset of fans who think everyone is wasting their time with a spring season and are less engaged that they'd be in the fall.

[Sioux24/7]

Says the guy with 16 posts since 2012, pot meet kettle but yea, this season just seems weird.

You’re not wrong. Been more of a reader here than a poster.

[that guy]

I have been popping in here and reading and yes the posts have decreased. I'm just not getting excited about football as much this year with everything going on with all the covid changes. Watched the bison game on Sunday and told a co worker that it seemed boring and he agreed. We agreed either it looked vanilla or that maybe we are just too used to winning. xlolx

[POD Knows]

You’re not wrong. Been more of a reader here than a poster.xlolx No worries, also, I picked you guys in the MVFC pick 'em, don't disappoint me. I made a bold move with that pick.

[nodak651]

I think it's interesting that NDSU has typically been known for developing talent and not bringing in transfers. NDSU is having trouble now, and they have QB trouble, and their QB is a transfer. Their Fall QB will probably be another transfer.

UND's QB is a red shirt freshman, who was a last minute signee after our original QB decommited right before the first signing day. When UND was looking for a replacement, UND's first choice signed with NDSU, so UND offered our current QB instead. Point being, should NDSU abandon the whole Zeb thing and play one of their younger QB's? They've gotta have some decent talent from their high school recruits. Or does Eck have a different philosophy from prior coaches?

[POD Knows]

I think it's interesting that NDSU has typically been known for developing talent and not bringing in transfers. NDSU is having trouble now, and they have QB trouble, and their QB is a transfer. Their Fall QB will probably be another transfer.

UND's QB is a red shirt freshman, who was a last minute signee after our original QB decommited right before the first signing day. When UND was looking for a replacement, UND's first choice signed with NDSU, so UND offered our current QB instead. Point being, should NDSU abandon the whole Zeb thing and play one of their younger QB's? They've gotta have some decent talent from their high school recruits. Or does Eck have a different philosophy from prior coaches?
He better not have a different philosophy from other coaches or he won't be here long, string a few games together like the SIU game and his days may be numbered. I don't know if any of these young guys at NDSU are ready but I would move from Noland now. He is simply not mobile enough given our apparent weakness in the O line.

Gonna be a long year maybe for the Bison. The O line is actually my biggest concern, they were clueless against SIU.

[Gil Dobie]

I think it's interesting that NDSU has typically been known for developing talent and not bringing in transfers. NDSU is having trouble now, and they have QB trouble, and their QB is a transfer. Their Fall QB will probably be another transfer.

UND's QB is a red shirt freshman, who was a last minute signee after our original QB decommited right before the first signing day. When UND was looking for a replacement, UND's first choice signed with NDSU, so UND offered our current QB instead. Point being, should NDSU abandon the whole Zeb thing and play one of their younger QB's? They've gotta have some decent talent from their high school recruits. Or does Eck have a different philosophy from prior coaches?

Cole Peyton, True Freshman may be the QB next Fall.

[Professor Chaos]

I think it's interesting that NDSU has typically been known for developing talent and not bringing in transfers. NDSU is having trouble now, and they have QB trouble, and their QB is a transfer. Their Fall QB will probably be another transfer.

UND's QB is a red shirt freshman, who was a last minute signee after our original QB decommited right before the first signing day. When UND was looking for a replacement, UND's first choice signed with NDSU, so UND offered our current QB instead. Point being, should NDSU abandon the whole Zeb thing and play one of their younger QB's? They've gotta have some decent talent from their high school recruits. Or does Eck have a different philosophy from prior coaches?
Possibly. All I know is Zeb Noland does not look like a guy in his 5th season of college football. He looks slow mentally and physically and his fundamentals like footwork and throwing platform make him look like a guy who's still trying to figure out how to throw a football. I think it's always better to have 4/5 year players over 2/3 year players but that's not always possible especially with the transfer free-for-all this COVID year is. It's also pretty tough to to plan for a guy like Trey Lance to play one season before going pro. In any case, I think NDSU's lack of a power run game is just as big of if not a bigger problem than poor QB play is.

Btw, "Twitter fingers" Eck is SDSU's offensive coordinator. Matt Entz is NDSU's head coach.

[dewey]

I think it's interesting that NDSU has typically been known for developing talent and not bringing in transfers. NDSU is having trouble now, and they have QB trouble, and their QB is a transfer. Their Fall QB will probably be another transfer.

UND's QB is a red shirt freshman, who was a last minute signee after our original QB decommited right before the first signing day. When UND was looking for a replacement, UND's first choice signed with NDSU, so UND offered our current QB instead. Point being, should NDSU abandon the whole Zeb thing and play one of their younger QB's? They've gotta have some decent talent from their high school recruits. Or does Eck have a different philosophy from prior coaches?

You are correct that NDSU doesn't normally do many transfers. However, in 2019 they realized they needed depth in the QB room and got Zeb Noland to compete with Trey.

Trey turned out to be amazing then left after last fall. The QB room again takes a big hit then they bring in Patterson.

I am not sure what to think of the transfer portal. Sure NDSU lost Jabril Cox and Adam Cofield but we added some D lineman from the D2 ranks.

It is concerning that NDSU has years of QB's that are young but Zeb is our best option?

Like others have said the offensive line is also very concerning.

I agree with POD if the philosophy is now transfers Entz will be shown the door soon. I think he is trying to add depth in areas due to attrition, players going to the NFL or transferring from NDSU.

Dewey

[Professor Chaos]

NDSU ranked embarrassingly high at #6 in the new STATS poll and somehow ranked 5 spots above SIU. I don't even want to post a thread on it.... it just feels dirty even looking at it.

[Chalupa Batman]

NDSU ranked embarrassingly high at #6 in the new STATS poll and somehow ranked 5 spots above SIU. I don't even want to post a thread on it.... it just feels dirty even looking at it.

Yep waaaaay too high.

Also have UNI at #3 which is almost as bad.

[nodak651]

NDSU ranked embarrassingly high at #6 in the new STATS poll and somehow ranked 5 spots above SIU. I don't even want to post a thread on it.... it just feels dirty even looking at it.

Voters mixing up UND and NDSU again xdrunkyx

[TheKingpin28]

He better not have a different philosophy from other coaches or he won't be here long, string a few games together like the SIU game and his days may be numbered. I don't know if any of these young guys at NDSU are ready but I would move from Noland now. He is simply not mobile enough given our apparent weakness in the O line.

Gonna be a long year maybe for the Bison. The O line is actually my biggest concern, they were clueless against SIU.


Cole Peyton, True Freshman may be the QB next Fall.


Possibly. All I know is Zeb Noland does not look like a guy in his 5th season of college football. He looks slow mentally and physically and his fundamentals like footwork and throwing platform make him look like a guy who's still trying to figure out how to throw a football. I think it's always better to have 4/5 year players over 2/3 year players but that's not always possible especially with the transfer free-for-all this COVID year is. It's also pretty tough to to plan for a guy like Trey Lance to play one season before going pro. In any case, I think NDSU's lack of a power run game is just as big of if not a bigger problem than poor QB play is.

Btw, "Twitter fingers" Eck is SDSU's offensive coordinator. Matt Entz is NDSU's head coach.

Would like to see Cam Miller get a chance. If they want Peyton to redshirt (which he may not), might want to give the kid out of Iowa a chance to see what he can do. I know Patterson can run, but haven't seen enough of him to warrant a threat in the passing game.

[POD Knows]

NDSU ranked embarrassingly high at #6 in the new STATS poll and somehow ranked 5 spots above SIU. I don't even want to post a thread on it.... it just feels dirty even looking at it.Yep, I commented on this on another thread. UNI at #3, are you kidding me and UND behind them, in what bizarro world does that happen. NDSU doesn't deserve a top 10 and they didn't there in my poll.

[clenz]

The Klieman factor is starting to wear off a bit.

It's not a coincidence that NDSU all of a sudden went from a .500 caliber Valley team to what they are now once Klieman showed up on their campus.

Entz road that train all the way to the top, and who could blame him. He's not a bad coach. He isn't going to drive them back down to 08-10 levels by any stretch, but the one constant from 11-2018 (and really 2019 because of development) was Klieman.

I made the mistake of looking at how Bisonville was reacting and it's a cesspool. What's interesting is the loss, by many, is being blamed on the players and staff talking about social justice related topics during the off season. Entz's personality is very different than Bohl and Klieman. Entz is much more outward with statements, emotions, etc. Bohl and K would win games big but you never felt like it was being run up. Entz won big and it felt like he was intentional from the very start of the game of running the score up. I've also seen more than a few talking about how recruiting doesn't feel like it's what it was a couple years ago. Another byproduct of Klieman, honestly. UNI went through the same issue post 2010-2011 recruiting class. We took a big hit for a few years trying to pick up where he left off. I know UNI won a few battles in 2019-2020 and a few more in 2020-2021 that they wouldn't have won before Klieman took off to Manhattan. It will be interesting to see that moving foward, especially if UND ends up being for real moving forward. Entz and Eck aren't too different from each other.

It will be interesting to see what happens if he isn't in the title hunt this spring of next fall. I think his personality will really rub on people and NDSU donors won't be too happy.

It was also interesting to see Bisonville complaining about the defense, defensive calls, and the secondary being an issue. David Braun is the guy in charge of that. He's the DC and safeties guy. He's a coach Entz snatched from UNI and it was largely used as more fuel for NDSU fans going "HuRr DuRr SmAcK tAlK" and unlike Klieman and a bit of Entz, UNI fans weren't sad to see him go at all. He took over a DL that was built to be one of the best in the country. Guys like Xavier Williams, Ben Boothby, Karter Schulte, etc. and in his 2 years running it after Paup went to Minnesota it became a real weakness of the defense. Paup wanted to come back to Farley booted Braun to assistant special teams coordinator and took him away from all defensive duties. His only D1 experience before was 2 years at Cal Davis as a DL coach, and not exactly amazing results there. We all knew he wasn't truly ready for what he was stepping into, but moves are moves and he made one so good for him.

NDSU obviously isn't falling apart. They'll be fine in the long term. It'll just be interesting to watch the settling into the post-Klieman era and what that will look like once what he recruited and developed is flushed (even mostly) out of the system in Fargo. Klieman is a ****ing hell of a coach, and I won't shy away from it took UNI probably 4 years to start to recover from losing him as an assistant. Losing him after he spent 8 years there with half of it being as the HC and directing every inch of the program? I could** get a bit rocky for a bit

[Professor Chaos]

I've thought since about the 2018 playoffs that the NDSU football fan base was starting to turn rotten. It was inevitable given how spoiled we were for so many years in a row. A dose of humility might be a good thing for us. If this is the beginning of the end for the NDSU dynasty it was bound to happen sooner or later. If it's a bump in the road, if nothing else, it's a good reminder for our fans bitching about how bored they are that our team isn't predestined to roll whoever is on the other sideline.

[HootyHoo]

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[Gil Dobie]

The Klieman factor is starting to wear off a bit.

It's not a coincidence that NDSU all of a sudden went from a .500 caliber Valley team to what they are now once Klieman showed up on their campus.

Entz road that train all the way to the top, and who could blame him. He's not a bad coach. He isn't going to drive them back down to 08-10 levels by any stretch, but the one constant from 11-2018 (and really 2019 because of development) was Klieman.

I made the mistake of looking at how Bisonville was reacting and it's a cesspool. What's interesting is the loss, by many, is being blamed on the players and staff talking about social justice related topics during the off season. Entz's personality is very different than Bohl and Klieman. Entz is much more outward with statements, emotions, etc. Bohl and K would win games big but you never felt like it was being run up. Entz won big and it felt like he was intentional from the very start of the game of running the score up. I've also seen more than a few talking about how recruiting doesn't feel like it's what it was a couple years ago. Another byproduct of Klieman, honestly. UNI went through the same issue post 2010-2011 recruiting class. We took a big hit for a few years trying to pick up where he left off. I know UNI won a few battles in 2019-2020 and a few more in 2020-2021 that they wouldn't have won before Klieman took off to Manhattan. It will be interesting to see that moving foward, especially if UND ends up being for real moving forward. Entz and Eck aren't too different from each other.

It will be interesting to see what happens if he isn't in the title hunt this spring of next fall. I think his personality will really rub on people and NDSU donors won't be too happy.

It was also interesting to see Bisonville complaining about the defense, defensive calls, and the secondary being an issue. David Braun is the guy in charge of that. He's the DC and safeties guy. He's a coach Entz snatched from UNI and it was largely used as more fuel for NDSU fans going "HuRr DuRr SmAcK tAlK" and unlike Klieman and a bit of Entz, UNI fans weren't sad to see him go at all. He took over a DL that was built to be one of the best in the country. Guys like Xavier Williams, Ben Boothby, Karter Schulte, etc. and in his 2 years running it after Paup went to Minnesota it became a real weakness of the defense. Paup wanted to come back to Farley booted Braun to assistant special teams coordinator and took him away from all defensive duties. His only D1 experience before was 2 years at Cal Davis as a DL coach, and not exactly amazing results there. We all knew he wasn't truly ready for what he was stepping into, but moves are moves and he made one so good for him.

NDSU obviously isn't falling apart. They'll be fine in the long term. It'll just be interesting to watch the settling into the post-Klieman era and what that will look like once what he recruited and developed is flushed (even mostly) out of the system in Fargo. Klieman is a ****ing hell of a coach, and I won't shy away from it took UNI probably 4 years to start to recover from losing him as an assistant. Losing him after he spent 8 years there with half of it being as the HC and directing every inch of the program? I could** get a bit rocky for a bit

Pretty spot on. Bohl had team winning prior to Klieman, but Klieman took us to the next level. Bohl was upset that he lost Klieman when he went to Wyoming. Back in the 1970's Kjelbertson took over from Ron Erhardt and had a losing record in year 3 and was gone. He was a good buy, had him for a PE course, but losing seasons are tough on coaches. Hope the coaches can dig out their notes from the Klieman years and get a win this week.

[Bisonoline]

Pretty spot on. Bohl had team winning prior to Klieman, but Klieman took us to the next level. Bohl was upset that he lost Klieman when he went to Wyoming. Back in the 1970's Kjelbertson took over from Ron Erhardt and had a losing record in year 3 and was gone. He was a good buy, had him for a PE course, but losing seasons are tough on coaches. Hope the coaches can dig out their notes from the Klieman years and get a win this week.

Kjelbertson was a very good defensive coach. Problem was he took over the offense when he got the job and he sucked at it. Plus he wouldnt listen to anyone when he was told he needed to go back to the other side of the ball.

[caribbeanhen]

Welcome back to FCS Bison fans

Not sure your quarterback Nolan is really that bad, I mean obviously he’s no Trey Lance but when are your receivers ever going to get open?

Don’t be surprised if you run off about five wins in a row now

[70MilesFromCanada]

CENTENNIAL said:
March 3rd, 2020 11:24 AM
Re: MVFC Megathread: 2020 Edition
Quote Originally Posted by IBleedYellow

UND gave Head Coach Bubba Schweigert a 4 year extension!

Welcome to the basement, UND!
This is the most confounding football decision I've heard all off season. He needed to be fired, instead you give him an extension.

No respect for the fans, and the boosters. Do they not want to compete? MVFC is a harder league than the Big Sky. Doubling down on a coach that struggled in a league not as good is crazy.

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Sorry, but I had to repost this. No one gets it right all the time (except POD Knows). 🤷

[SPORTSMAN66]

MVFC teams saw the blueprint last Saturday to beat the Bison. Stack the defense to stop the run. Make the QB beat you with his arm. The last 4 QBs for NDSU could run and pass. Noland sits in the pocket and either can't or won't run.

Bison will probably be OK the next few games. But finishing 3 of the last 4 vs UND, UNI, and SDSU will probably keep them out of the playoffs.

[SDFS]

CENTENNIAL said:
March 3rd, 2020 11:24 AM
Re: MVFC Megathread: 2020 Edition
Quote Originally Posted by IBleedYellow

UND gave Head Coach Bubba Schweigert a 4 year extension!

Welcome to the basement, UND!
This is the most confounding football decision I've heard all off season. He needed to be fired, instead you give him an extension.

No respect for the fans, and the boosters. Do they not want to compete? MVFC is a harder league than the Big Sky. Doubling down on a coach that struggled in a league not as good is crazy.

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Sorry, but I had to repost this. No one gets it right all the time (except POD Knows). 路

Way too earlier for this post, let's see what things look like after the fall season... UND are notorious for playing down to the completion and they struggle on the road. They haven't even played a road game yet.

[POD Knows]

CENTENNIAL said:
March 3rd, 2020 11:24 AM
Re: MVFC Megathread: 2020 Edition
Quote Originally Posted by IBleedYellow

UND gave Head Coach Bubba Schweigert a 4 year extension!

Welcome to the basement, UND!
This is the most confounding football decision I've heard all off season. He needed to be fired, instead you give him an extension.

No respect for the fans, and the boosters. Do they not want to compete? MVFC is a harder league than the Big Sky. Doubling down on a coach that struggled in a league not as good is crazy.

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Sorry, but I had to repost this. No one gets it right all the time (except POD Knows). 路
You guys might want to pump the brakes a little bit, you were 7-5 last year and one of the wins was over Drake, 6-5 the year before and the then 3-8 in 2017. The program is moving in the right direction but two home wins coming out of a ****ed up covid delayed season is good but not great and there were a bunch of guys on the Hitler Youth Board (SS) that were saying the same thing about Bubba. Also, I have you at #2 in my AGS poll which will probably be the kiss of death for the rest of your season. Every time I would move you guys up a little in the polls in the last couple years, UND would pull defeat from the jaws of victory somehow.

[Hambone]

You guys might want to pump the brakes a little bit, you were 7-5 last year and one of the wins was over Drake, 6-5 the year before and the then 3-8 in 2017. The program is moving in the right direction but two home wins coming out of a ****ed up covid delayed season is good but not great and there were a bunch of guys on the Hitler Youth Board (SS) that were saying the same thing about Bubba. Also, I have you at #2 in my AGS poll which will probably be the kiss of death for the rest of your season. Every time I would move you guys up a little in the polls in the last couple years, UND would pull defeat from the jaws of victory somehow.
Yeah, I don't want to get ahead of myself - lots of football left to be played. I'd like to see if we can stay consistent. I've been very pleased with how UND is turning it on in the second half, but you're absolutely right that they really know how to lose games after big wins. But, this time they aren't playing Idaho State, who seems to be the biggest party crashers. I will say, though, that this team feels a bit different than the past........hope I'm right.

[POD Knows]

MVFC teams saw the blueprint last Saturday to beat the Bison. Stack the defense to stop the run. Make the QB beat you with his arm. The last 4 QBs for NDSU could run and pass. Noland sits in the pocket and either can't or won't run.

Bison will probably be OK the next few games. But finishing 3 of the last 4 vs UND, UNI, and SDSU will probably keep them out of the playoffs.This is exactly how you do because we do not have physical receivers and most of our WR can been contained with single coverage. That is how JMU beat us in the dome, they had good physical corners, they just manned up on them, put 8 or 9 in the box and game over and that was with Stick as QB.

[Preferred Walk-On]

MVFC teams saw the blueprint last Saturday to beat the Bison. Stack the defense to stop the run. Make the QB beat you with his arm. The last 4 QBs for NDSU could run and pass. Noland sits in the pocket and either can't or won't run.

Bison will probably be OK the next few games. But finishing 3 of the last 4 vs UND, UNI, and SDSU will probably keep them out of the playoffs.

Or put them into the playoffs... Based on last Saturday, yeah, you are probably correct. Based on history, don't #BookIt just yet...or do, I can never figure out how that works. ;)
Hard road, but would not want it any other way.

[70MilesFromCanada]

You guys might want to pump the brakes a little bit, you were 7-5 last year and one of the wins was over Drake, 6-5 the year before and the then 3-8 in 2017. The program is moving in the right direction but two home wins coming out of a ****ed up covid delayed season is good but not great and there were a bunch of guys on the Hitler Youth Board (SS) that were saying the same thing about Bubba. Also, I have you at #2 in my AGS poll which will probably be the kiss of death for the rest of your season. Every time I would move you guys up a little in the polls in the last couple years, UND would pull defeat from the jaws of victory somehow.

I made/make no prediction on how good UND is/will be. It fact my repost points out the fallacy of early guesses without any data points. For a couple of years it was assumed that UND would have trouble in the mighty MVFC. That may yet be true or not. Now that NDSU has stumbled out of the gate perhaps UND will get a more clear eyed look based on actual results. This season is far more interesting with all its twists and turns than than past several predictable boring (except for Bison fans) ones.

[POD Knows]

I made/make no prediction on how good UND is/will be. It fact my repost points out the fallacy of early guesses without any data points. For a couple of years it was assumed that UND would have trouble in the mighty MVFC. That may yet be true or not. Now that NDSU has stumbled out of the gate perhaps UND will get a more clear eyed look based on actual results. This season is far more interesting with all its twists and turns than than past several predictable boring (except for Bison fans) ones.
I agree and I, for most part, think the MVFC sucks but for a few teams, NDSU made the conference look good, the OOC of the other MVFC teams was OK but not Earth shattering.

You have another freaking home game this weekend and you don't play UNI so, and who does NDSU miss this year, gee, WIU. Congrats, the conference is yours to lose. Knock yourself out. xlolx Reminds me of the year you guys won the BSC and had the schedule from Heaven.

[Sioux24/7]

I agree and I, for most part, think the MVFC sucks but for a few teams, NDSU made the conference look good, the OOC of the other MVFC teams was OK but not Earth shattering.

You have another freaking home game this weekend and you don't play UNI so, and who does NDSU miss this year, gee, WIU. Congrats, the conference is yours to lose. Knock yourself out. xlolx Reminds me of the year you guys won the BSC and had the schedule from Heaven.

Ah yes, all mighty #3 UNI....

[POD Knows]

Ah yes, all mighty #3 UNI....Have you ever player or beat UNI??

[Sioux24/7]

Have you ever player or beat UNI??

It’s been a while but sure have. https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/2049931-und-35-northern-iowa-31

[POD Knows]

It’s been a while but sure have. https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/2049931-und-35-northern-iowa-31Hey, I despise UNI as much as the next guy, but WIU or UNI, give me a break. Is that the last time you played them??

[Sioux24/7]

Hey, I despise UNI as much as the next guy, but WIU or UNI, give me a break. Is that the last time you played them??

As far as I remember. I’m not saying UND is going to run the table or anything but I think it’s a joke we are already discrediting UND for any future success they might have this season. Very typical though.

[POD Knows]

As far as I remember. I’m not saying UND is going to run the table or anything but I think it’s a joke we are already discrediting UND for any future success they might have this season. Very typical though.Nah, it is just that we are getting used to you guys sucking and reactions become conditioned. I fully expect you guys to run the table, not kidding, you have a real shot at this, you have one less potential roadblock as you don't play UNI.

[caribbeanhen]

I agree and I, for most part, think the MVFC sucks but for a few teams, NDSU made the conference look good, the OOC of the other MVFC teams was OK but not Earth shattering.

You have another freaking home game this weekend and you don't play UNI so, and who does NDSU miss this year, gee, WIU. Congrats, the conference is yours to lose. Knock yourself out. xlolx Reminds me of the year you guys won the BSC and had the schedule from Heaven.

kind of like Paul made the Wings look good? :D

[Preferred Walk-On]

kind of like Paul made the Wings look good? :D

Here we go... ;)

[caribbeanhen]

Here we go... ;)

I hope this doesn't mean old Paul is about to kick the bucket..... break up the band

[POD Knows]

I hope this doesn't mean old Paul is about to kick the bucket..... break up the bandWho was the original Beatle that died, yea, NDSU is there, quote me on this. This roster sucks, we have lost a fair number of prospect for next year, welcome to parity.

[caribbeanhen]

Who was the original Beatle that died, yea, NDSU is there, quote me on this. This roster sucks, we have lost a fair number of prospect for next year, welcome to parity.

Stu Sutcliffe

[POD Knows]

Stu Sutcliffe****, I don't know, I was probably thinking of another band. Beatles suck, Paul sucks, I like George, Ringo sucks, who else is left.

[ST_Lawson]

****, I don't know, I was probably thinking of another band. Beatles suck, Paul sucks, I like George, Ringo sucks, who else is left.

The Fab Four - John, Paul, George, Ringo
The "Fifth Beatle" - Producer George Martin

Other than Stu, the other most well known one was Pete Best, the drummer for a couple of years before Ringo came in.

Other members: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles#Personnel
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles#Personnel)

[POD Knows]

JFC, did this Otis Weah kid from ****ing Moorhead even get recruited by NDSU, he is lighting it up. How the **** did he end up at UND. This is a real question, for those that follow recruiting, how did these guys at NDSU miss this guy.

How about this Maag at UND, 6' 4" 210 lbs receiver, this guy can play, NDSU miss this guy too. UND is going to kick NDSU's ass and it will be a ****ing wake up call for the program.

[Professor Chaos]

JFC, did this Otis Weah kid from ****ing Moorhead even get recruited by NDSU, he is lighting it up. How the **** did he end up at UND. This is a real question, for those that follow recruiting, how did these guys at NDSU miss this guy.

How about this Maag at UND, 6' 4" 210 lbs receiver, this guy can play, NDSU miss this guy too. UND is going to kick NDSU's ass and it will be a ****ing wake up call for the program.
NDSU didn't offer him. I believe they may have offered him a PWO but didn't offer a scholarship. Instead they offered/signed Saybein Clark and DJ Stewart at RB in 2018. Both are no longer with the team. It was definitely a big whiff. Good on Otis and UND for developing him into what looks like an All-American caliber RB.

[Schism55]

NDSU didn't offer him. I believe they may have offered him a PWO but didn't offer a scholarship. Instead they offered/signed Saybein Clark and DJ Stewart at RB in 2018. Both are no longer with the team. It was definitely a big whiff. Good on Otis and UND for developing him into what looks like an All-American caliber RB.
Man I had high hopes for Saybein Clark, what a beast in high school. Tough break losing kid to pursuing a music career :(

[caribbeanhen]

I think South Dakota is going to take this game

[Hambone]

Weah also had academic issues so he was a little risky. Wasn’t able to play at all last year due to it.

Love watching him run. No quit in him. Needs a little work on ball security.

[caribbeanhen]

Weah also had academic issues so he was a little risky. Wasn’t able to play at all last year due to it.

Love watching him run. No quit in him. Needs a little work on ball security.

Yes, I noticed him being a tough tackle in the first two games, not fun trying to bring down this guy

[clenz]

Weah also had academic issues so he was a little risky. Wasn’t able to play at all last year due to it.

Love watching him run. No quit in him. Needs a little work on ball security.
Were those there in high school?

I just read an article tonight from January trying to read more about the kid that said once he got to campus he let the hype get to his head.

[nodak651]

Were those there in high school?

I just read an article tonight from January trying to read more about the kid that said once he got to campus he let the hype get to his head.

Otis is a great story, especially since making it back after his year off. -> https://www.inforum.com/sports/4338519-bond-between-moorheads-weah-and-his-mom-has-moved-refugee-camp-football-field

[nodak651]

JFC, did this Otis Weah kid from ****ing Moorhead even get recruited by NDSU, he is lighting it up. How the **** did he end up at UND. This is a real question, for those that follow recruiting, how did these guys at NDSU miss this guy.

How about this Maag at UND, 6' 4" 210 lbs receiver, this guy can play, NDSU miss this guy too. UND is going to kick NDSU's ass and it will be a ****ing wake up call for the program.

Bo looks decent as a true freshman as well. And Trey really turned it on after committing this summer. Don't worry though because none of the above had any other offers xsmiley_wix

[dewey]

NDSU didn't offer him. I believe they may have offered him a PWO but didn't offer a scholarship. Instead they offered/signed Saybein Clark and DJ Stewart at RB in 2018. Both are no longer with the team. It was definitely a big whiff. Good on Otis and UND for developing him into what looks like an All-American caliber RB.

I won't lie I am worried this is starting to look like the early 90's.

Dewey

[F'N Hawks]

I am surprised UND was able to hang with the Coyotes because in 2017 they won by 38.

[Hambone]

Were those there in high school?

I just read an article tonight from January trying to read more about the kid that said once he got to campus he let the hype get to his head.

I believe the concerns were there, yes, but he did get some mop up action as a true freshman before he was ineligible last year, so it got worse once he got to campus. Sounds like he got everything turned around during his year off.

[POD Knows]

NDSU didn't offer him. I believe they may have offered him a PWO but didn't offer a scholarship. Instead they offered/signed Saybein Clark and DJ Stewart at RB in 2018. Both are no longer with the team. It was definitely a big whiff. Good on Otis and UND for developing him into what looks like an All-American caliber RB.Yea, I was pretty impressed, he had a bad fumble but the guy can freaking ball. He would be looking pretty good in Green and YELLOW right about now.

[POD Knows]

Bo looks decent as a true freshman as well. And Trey really turned it on after committing this summer. Don't worry though because none of the above had any other offers xsmiley_wix****er, that doesn't make me feel any better. :D

[SDFS]

UNI, NDSU, SDSU, UND and USD - are playing old school NCC football - all of them ranked in the top 20.

[caribbeanhen]

I won't lie I am worried this is starting to look like the early 90's.

Dewey

step back from the ledge Dewey.... Bison are not done yet...

[caribbeanhen]

Yea, I was pretty impressed, he had a bad fumble but the guy can freaking ball. He would be looking pretty good in Green and YELLOW right about now.

Hey POD, Where can I send your Green and Black cap? North Dakota and Sammy in the finals

[POD Knows]

Hey POD, Where can I send your Green and Black cap? North Dakota and Sammy in the finalsI would tell you where you could put it but I am too much of a gentlemen, UND needs to show they can win on the road. But they get to skip UNI in conference play and their next game is WIU, they will be 4-0 and on their way.

[caribbeanhen]

I would tell you where you could put it but I am too much of a gentlemen, UND needs to show they can win on the road. But they get to skip UNI in conference play and their next game is WIU, they will be 4-0 and on their way.

yeah they look really comfortable in that place, I‘Ve watched so many games there in the last 20 days I’m starting to recognize the fans

[F'N Hawks]

It's one thing to be lucky. Then there's the next level above lucky where a team avoids having to play UNI.

[POD Knows]

It's one thing to be lucky. Then there's the next level above lucky where a team avoids having to play UNI.Yea, their history is a little more "storied" than yours, but you guys did manage to win the BSC conference one year, super, next level lucky that year, didn't have to play either EWU and Montana and if I remember correctly, UND lost in the playoffs to Richmond, who got boat raced 38-0 by EWU later in the playoffs, but you guys do well when the stars align, so you have that going for you, which is nice.

Keep going, maybe you can get a Natty banner to hang up next to all the other football Natty banners you have.

[Schism55]

Hey POD, Where can I send your Green and Black cap? North Dakota and Sammy in the finals

Considering how insane the last 12 months have been, that would be apropos.

[70MilesFromCanada]

Yea, their history is a little more "storied" than yours, but you guys did manage to win the BSC conference one year, super, next level lucky that year, didn't have to play either EWU and Montana and if I remember correctly, UND lost in the playoffs to Richmond, who got boat raced 38-0 by EWU later in the playoffs, but you guys do well when the stars align, so you have that going for you, which is nice.

Keep going, maybe you can get a Natty banner to hang up next to all the other football Natty banners you have.

That would only 1 Natty banner in FB. 2001 DII. Way behind Bison, like many other programs.

[POD Knows]

That would only 1 Natty banner in FB. 2001 DII. Way behind Bison, like many other programs.xlolx Yea dude, I know, I was being a smart ass but not that it looks like there might actually be a rivalry again with the apparent swing in fortunes, I figured I would start trash talking. Better late than never.

[Hambone]

xlolx Yea dude, I know, I was being a smart ass but not that it looks like there might actually be a rivalry again with the apparent swing in fortunes, I figured I would start trash talking. Better late than never.
We haven't had as much reason to be on here lately, so people don't get you my friend.....I knew exactly what you were up to xnodx xslapfightx

[POD Knows]

We haven't had as much reason to be on here lately, so people don't get you my friend.....I knew exactly what you were up to xnodx xslapfightxHoly crap, I am getting text messages from UND fans I haven't heard from years, might have to start blocking them. :D Sort of makes spring football a lot more interesting.

[SDFS]

Keep going, maybe you can get a Natty banner to hang up next to all the other football Natty banners you have.


That would only 1 Natty banner in FB. 2001 DII. Way behind Bison, like many other programs.

70-MFC - I thought that he was poking fun at UNI, USD and SDSU with all the football Natty banners..

[F'N Hawks]

Yea, their history is a little more "storied" than yours, but you guys did manage to win the BSC conference one year, super, next level lucky that year, didn't have to play either EWU and Montana and if I remember correctly, UND lost in the playoffs to Richmond, who got boat raced 38-0 by EWU later in the playoffs, but you guys do well when the stars align, so you have that going for you, which is nice.

Keep going, maybe you can get a Natty banner to hang up next to all the other football Natty banners you have.

Like UNI and all their banners. What a program.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Got a dote on my Redbird .. 1 of 12 finalists for Campbell Trophy .. LT Drew Himmelman .. he's the 6'10" 325 lb one. All Conference, All American, All Academic, et ... due has his sh-t together.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30305612/12-finalists-campbell-trophy-announced

[nodak651]

Yea, their history is a little more "storied" than yours, but you guys did manage to win the BSC conference one year, super, next level lucky that year, didn't have to play either EWU and Montana and if I remember correctly, UND lost in the playoffs to Richmond, who got boat raced 38-0 by EWU later in the playoffs, but you guys do well when the stars align, so you have that going for you, which is nice.

Keep going, maybe you can get a Natty banner to hang up next to all the other football Natty banners you have.

Oh, yes, we were SO lucky to avoid Montana. They were so good that they went 3-5 in Conference. Funny enough - they also beat #3 UNI that year! (UNI of course didn't live up the the hype, finishing 5-6)

Besides EWU, UND played and beat the top 5 teams in the Big Sky. The 3 teams we avoided went a combined 7-24 in conference.

[POD Knows]

Oh, yes, we were SO lucky to avoid Montana. They were so good that they went 3-5 in Conference. Funny enough - they also beat #3 UNI that year! (UNI of course didn't live up the the hype, finishing 5-6)

Besides EWU, UND played and beat the top 5 teams in the Big Sky. The 3 teams we avoided went a combined 7-24 in conference.The only top "6" team you played on the road was freaking Northern Colorado, NAU - Home, WSU - Home, Cal Poly - home, SUU - Home, You beat Montana State on the road, they finished behind the Griz.

Your claim to fame in FCS is a share of a conference championship with a team that would have probably thumped you by 4 TD's, and now you have won 3 in a row, all home games, bravo.

BTW. you still have that reverse play in the playbook, I think you should dusk that baby off.

[nodak651]

The only top "6" team you played on the road was freaking Northern Colorado, NAU - Home, WSU - Home, Cal Poly - home, SUU - Home, You beat Montana State on the road, they finished behind the Griz.

Your claim to fame in FCS is a share of a conference championship with a team that would have probably thumped you by 4 TD's, and now you have won 3 in a row, all home games, bravo.

BTW. you still have that reverse play in the playbook, I think you should dusk that baby off.

Did I make any claims? I don't think so but thank you for putting words in my mouth. Was just letting you know Montana wasn't good that year, because I'm sick of hearing about how lucky we were not to play them after hearing it repeated 100 times on message boards or on the radio by people like Dom Izzo. UND was also hardly boat raced by Richmond, we had a 24-0 lead in the third quarter and we had an epic collapse, but it was hardly anything that would be defined as getting boat raced. They won 27-24 on a field goal with 3 min left in the game. Would EWU probably have won? Yeah.

[TheKingpin28]

Spring Football is a lot like college hockey. It's the only time GFCC fans show up. xcoffeex

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[POD Knows]

Did I make any claims? I don't think so but thank you for putting words in my mouth. Was just letting you know Montana wasn't good that year, because I'm sick of hearing about how lucky we were not to play them after hearing it repeated 100 times on message boards or on the radio by people like Dom Izzo. UND was also hardly boat raced by Richmond, we had a 24-0 lead in the third quarter and we had an epic collapse, but it was hardly anything that would be defined as getting boat raced. They won 27-24 on a field goal with 3 min left in the game. Would EWU probably have won? Yeah.When I said "your" claim to fame I wasn't talking about "you" claiming it, I didn't put words in your mouth. And you didn't get boat raced by Richmond, but Richmond sure as hell got boat raced by your co-conference champ that you didn't have to play that year.

I pointed out that you guys have a favorable schedule this year, you get to play WIU and avoid UNI (there is a difference in those two teams) and you got your first three conference games at home. And your schedule in 2016 was a gift wrapped joke, and I believe you went 3-8 the next year or some such ****.

[nodak651]

When I said "your" claim to fame I wasn't talking about "you" claiming it, I didn't put words in your mouth. And you didn't get boat raced by Richmond, but Richmond sure as hell got boat raced by your co-conference champ that you didn't have to play that year.

I pointed out that you guys have a favorable schedule this year, you get to play WIU and avoid UNI (there is a difference in those two teams) and you got your first three conference games at home. And your schedule in 2016 was a gift wrapped joke, and I believe you went 3-8 the next year or some such ****.

The next year..... 2017? Don't know what you're talking about. Didn't happen. Pretty sure that season was cancelled due to a pandemic or something. xembarrassedx

[POD Knows]

The next year..... 2017? Don't know what you're talking about. Didn't happen. Pretty sure that season was cancelled due to a pandemic or something. xembarrassedx****, I had to go check that information after I posted it, I think spring of 2021 will be the forgotten year for NDSU. Could be wrong about that, but I doubt it.

[geaux_sioux]

Yea, their history is a little more "storied" than yours, but you guys did manage to win the BSC conference one year, super, next level lucky that year, didn't have to play either EWU and Montana and if I remember correctly, UND lost in the playoffs to Richmond, who got boat raced 38-0 by EWU later in the playoffs, but you guys do well when the stars align, so you have that going for you, which is nice.

Keep going, maybe you can get a Natty banner to hang up next to all the other football Natty banners you have.

Those Montana teams were garbage that year.

[POD Knows]

Those Montana teams were garbage that year.Montana is a tough out at home. C'mon man, you are a fair poster, you have to admit that 2016 schedule was a gift from the Gods. The teams you played on the road had a conference w/l of 9-23, the BSC was pretty lame in 2016. EWU was pretty good and should have been in the finals against JMU but yea, it was a down year for the conference. Cal Poly lost to freaking San Diego in the playoffs, and Weber got their asses handed to them by Chatty.

God, that seems like a long time ago.

[geaux_sioux]

Montana is a tough out at home. C'mon man, you are a fair poster, you have to admit that 2016 schedule was a gift from the Gods. The teams you played on the road had a conference w/l of 9-23, the BSC was pretty lame in 2016. EWU was pretty good and should have been in the finals against JMU but yea, it was a down year for the conference. Cal Poly lost to freaking San Diego in the playoffs, and Weber got their asses handed to them by Chatty.

God, that seems like a long time ago.

We would have beaten both Montana’s on the road that year no problem. They weren’t good. EWU was tough and is always a bad matchup for us. We were legit that year. Obviously choked in the playoffs but that team was legit.

[POD Knows]

We would have beaten both Montana’s on the road that year no problem. They weren’t good. EWU was tough and is always a bad matchup for us. We were legit that year. Obviously choked in the playoffs but that team was legit.You beat Montana State on the road. Still doesn't change the fact that every game against anybody decent that year was in your shed. And Weber State and Cal Poly were not good that year, that showed up in the playoffs.

Anyway, good to see you guys back, stick around a while if things fall apart. xlolx

[dewey]

NDSU hasn't lost 2 games in a row since 17 and 24 October 2009. The loss on 17 October was to SDSU and Missouri State on 24 October 21-17.

Go Bison!

Dewey

[F'N Hawks]

You beat Montana State on the road. Still doesn't change the fact that every game against anybody decent that year was in your shed. And Weber State and Cal Poly were not good that year, that showed up in the playoffs.

Anyway, good to see you guys back, stick around a while if things fall apart. xlolx
To be fair its pretty quiet around here in general. And the MVFC nutbeards were pretty boisterous the last few years about UND's chances in MVFC. Not surprising a few are showing up to call it out.

[POD Knows]

To be fair its pretty quiet around here in general. And the MVFC nutbeards were pretty boisterous the last few years about UND's chances in MVFC. Not surprising a few are showing up to call it out.What, do think people were out of line wonder how you would do in the MVFC, there was nothing out there to indicate you would have any success in that conference, since turning D1, who have you beaten in that conference prior to this year, USD, Missouri State? You won three in a row now, but history wasn't a very pretty picture from 08 on. Must be pretty close to .500 ball now against the conference, give or take.

[Professor Chaos]

I'll admit that I'm borderline shocked how well UND has started their first year of MVFC play. I know NDSU had a rude awakening in 2008 when they went from playing a Great West schedule to an MVFC schedule and I was expecting UND to have similar struggles adjusting to the week-in-week-out style of play. UND has handled that transition into the conference much better than NDSU did to this point so good for them.

[POD Knows]

I'll admit that I'm borderline shocked how well UND has started their first year of MVFC play. I know NDSU had a rude awakening in 2008 when they went from playing a Great West schedule to a MVFC schedule and I was expecting UND to have similar struggles adjusting to the week-in-week-out style of play. UND has handled that transition into the conference much better than NDSU did to this point so good for them.Well, they had 12 years to "transition" to the conference.

[nodak651]

What, do think people were out of line wonder how you would do in the MVFC, there was nothing out there to indicate you would have any success in that conference, since turning D1, who have you beaten in that conference prior to this year, USD, Missouri State? You won three in a row now, but history wasn't a very pretty picture from 08 on. Must be pretty close to .500 ball now against the conference, give or take.

All you had to do was read the post I made in this thread after the MVFC pre season poll was released!

UND just hasn't played many games vs MVFC teams lately though - we split with Missouri State and USD, and lost two in Fargo, which everyone does. SDSU was a long time ago, way back to like 2013 when Muss was still coaching I think.


I think UND finishes higher than their pre season ranking, partly because so many teams have had so much attrician, and because UND has been lucky enough to only lose one player to transfer or opt out, and he didnt play much.

Freshman QB looked promising in his one game vs Sam Houston. Might have arguably the best overall cb group in country. Otis is back at RB and he has huge upside. OL is pretty much all back and much bigger after a failed weight loss experiment last year (for quickness or something? Didnt work)

Beat MSU last year and should have beat Webber as well if not for a muffed catch during a kick return at the end of the game.

Depth at most positions is as good as ever.

[ysubigred]

I'll admit that I'm borderline shocked how well UND has started their first year of MVFC play. I know NDSU had a rude awakening in 2008 when they went from playing a Great West schedule to an MVFC schedule and I was expecting UND to have similar struggles adjusting to the week-in-week-out style of play. UND has handled that transition into the conference much better than NDSU did to this point so good for them.It's hard to compare with a short spring season. Watching pretty much every team play so far the MVFC doesn't appear 100%. UND looks like the only team ready to play. xtwocentsx

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[Gil Dobie]

Looking forward to seeing the Bison play today. At MSU is always tougher than is should be, but they should be fired up today. Hopefully they look better, if the win, than they did against YSU.

[Redbird 4th & short]

We would have beaten both Montana’s on the road that year no problem. They weren’t good. EWU was tough and is always a bad matchup for us. We were legit that year. Obviously choked in the playoffs but that team was legit.
First of all .. congrats on nice start for UND this year.

But I recall 2016 UND season, mainly because I pay close attention to SOS come playoff selection time, and note when big conferences like Big Sky and Colonial wind up with some top teams not playing several other top teams. At the time, I thought SDSU got screwed out of the 7th seed, getting slotted 8th, which meant playing into NDSU yet again .. so it mattered.

As Pod said, it was a down year for Big Sky, and UND got a very favorable conference schedule in a down year. Note below from Massey .. sorted your schedule by Massey Rank, just for relative rank, more than actual rank. You played all the toughest FCS games at home, and all the weakest on the road .. 7 of your 9 regular season wins were by 10 or less, 5 by 7 or less. Not many quality wins, but many more marginal wins. Your Massey SOS was 39th and you only put away 2 teams all year.

Of course, no one knows for sure how tough their schedule is when year starts. But as it turned out, your schedule was ideal. Kudos for winning games you should win (except Albany loss), but it wasn't a dominant 7th seed type season IMO .. certainly it was a good season, maybe 12th-15th going into playoffs.




Date

Opponent
Rank-Record
Result
PF
PA



Sat 09-10
at
Bowling Green (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/821)
0 (4-8)
L (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=694359716)
26
27



Sat 12-03

Richmond (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/6547)playoff
14(10-4)
L (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=749142388)
24
27



Sat 09-17

South Dakota (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/7262)
19(4-7)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730608251)2 OT
47
44



Sat 10-15

Southern Utah (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/7399)
23(6-5)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730609610)
45
23



Sat 10-01

Cal Poly (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/1032)
26(7-5)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730608919)
31
24



Sat 11-12

Northern Arizona (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/5620)
27(5-6)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730610997)
38
31



Sat 10-29

Weber St (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/8636)
33(7-5)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730610291)
27
19



Sat 09-24
at
Montana St (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/5042)
42(4-7)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730608554)
17
15



Sat 11-05
at
N Colorado (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/5625)
44(6-5)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730610647)
23
13



Thu 09-01
at
Stony Brook (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/7642)
47(5-6)
L (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730607402)
9
13



Sat 10-22
at
Idaho St (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/3421)
75(2-9)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730609858)
28
21



Sat 10-08
at
CS Sacramento (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/1067)
82(2-9)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730609284)
40
7

[POD Knows]

All you had to do was read the post I made in this thread after the MVFC pre season poll was released!

UND just hasn't played many games vs MVFC teams lately though - we split with Missouri State and USD, and lost two in Fargo, which everyone does. SDSU was a long time ago, way back to like 2013 when Muss was still coaching I think.xthumbsupx

[POD Knows]

First of all .. congrats on nice start for UND this year.

But I recall 2016 UND season, mainly because I pay close attention to SOS come playoff selection time, and note when big conferences like Big Sky and Colonial wind up with some top teams not playing several other top teams. At the time, I thought SDSU got screwed out of the 7th seed, getting slotted 8th, which meant playing into NDSU yet again .. so it mattered.

As Pod said, it was a down year for Big Sky, and UND got a very favorable conference schedule in a down year. Note below from Massey .. sorted your schedule by Massey Rank, just for relative rank, more than actual rank. You played all the toughest FCS games at home, and all the weakest on the road .. 7 of your 9 regular season wins were by 10 or less, 5 by 7 or less. Not many quality wins, but many more marginal wins. Your Massey SOS was 39th and you only put away 2 teams all year.

Of course, no one knows for sure how tough their schedule is when year starts. But as it turned out, your schedule was ideal. Kudos for winning games you should win (except Albany loss), but it wasn't a dominant 7th seed type season IMO .. certainly it was a good season, maybe 12th-15th going into playoffs.




Date

Opponent
Rank-Record
Result
PF
PA



Sat 09-10
at
Bowling Green (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/821)
0 (4-8)
L (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=694359716)
26
27



Sat 12-03

Richmond (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/6547)playoff
14(10-4)
L (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=749142388)
24
27



Sat 09-17

South Dakota (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/7262)
19(4-7)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730608251)2 OT
47
44



Sat 10-15

Southern Utah (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/7399)
23(6-5)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730609610)
45
23



Sat 10-01

Cal Poly (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/1032)
26(7-5)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730608919)
31
24



Sat 11-12

Northern Arizona (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/5620)
27(5-6)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730610997)
38
31



Sat 10-29

Weber St (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/8636)
33(7-5)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730610291)
27
19



Sat 09-24
at
Montana St (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/5042)
42(4-7)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730608554)
17
15



Sat 11-05
at
N Colorado (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/5625)
44(6-5)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730610647)
23
13



Thu 09-01
at
Stony Brook (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/7642)
47(5-6)
L (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730607402)
9
13



Sat 10-22
at
Idaho St (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/3421)
75(2-9)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730609858)
28
21



Sat 10-08
at
CS Sacramento (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf2016/1067)
82(2-9)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=730609284)
40
7



I remember this being discussed in a fair amount of detail when the seeds came out, ancient history now but if we forget history, we are doomed to repeat it.

[Redbird 4th & short]

I remember this being discussed in a fair amount of detail when the seeds came out, ancient history now but if we forget history, we are doomed to repeat it.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/LMWG4e8WfVWspCxJR7/200.gif

[POD Knows]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/LMWG4e8WfVWspCxJR7/200.gifShould bump that thread again.

[F'N Hawks]

From 2016....lmfao. You guys just can't help yourselves. UND is beating the supposed best in YOUR conference now and you're referencing 2016.
I am old enough to remember when the "Coyotes are better than UND this year" because in 2017 they won by 38. Where is that clown at?

[F'N Hawks]

I will say that as far as message boards go, the nice thing about joining the Missouri Valley is that we have every excuse possible at our disposal when UND loses a game.

[dewey]

Is ESPN+ working for others to watch the NDSU game?

It isn't working on my phone or the TV.

Dewey

[SDFS]

It's hard to compare with a short spring season. Watching pretty much every team play so far the MVFC doesn't appear 100%. UND looks like the only team ready to play. xtwocentsx

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My first time watching YSU this year. I thought that YSU looked good today. It looks like getting one of your all conference O-linemen back plus reps by others in previous games is starting to make a difference. I liked your QB #7. It sounds like your staff dropped the QB rotation and hat 6'7" TE looked good also. Your thoughts on YSU today?

[SDFS]

No problem for me, I have been switching between YSU, SDSU, NDSU - SIU has won by 8, SDSU is up by 24 or so late in the second half and NDSU was up 18-0... they might have scored late to make is 25-0.

[SDFS]

Is ESPN+ working for others to watch the NDSU game?

It isn't working on my phone or the TV.

Dewey

Working fine for me

[dewey]

Working fine for me

Mine started working about midway through the 1st quarter. Really good 1st half for NDSU (from what I saw).

Dewey

[SDFS]

Mine started working about midway through the 1st quarter. Really good 1st half for NDSU (from what I saw).

Dewey

The demise of NDSU was very short lived. xnodx

[dewey]

The demise of NDSU was very short lived. xnodx

They have looked solid today but it is also Missouri State.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

NDSU ****ing sucks. Can 24 Kobe Johnson run without slipping and falling down. JFC.

[Bisonator]

NDSU ****ing sucks.
This. Worst Bison team since at least 2010.

[Bison56]

Play calling is terrible, scared to take any chances.

[TheKingpin28]

Question about Gonnella. Is he leaving after this year to play pro baseball or is he staying in college? I know he signed a contract, but I haven't heard any updates since last year. Kid is a bowling ball in the backfield.

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[POD Knows]

This. Worst Bison team since at least 2010.
MSU had guys running free all day in the secondary. How many drops did they have. Nice win but there are a lot of “opportunities” with this team. Real young team but everybody seems to have young squads.

[SDFS]

Wow, got to love the MVFC Refs - massive face mask missed by ISU-R in the 2nd Q.

[skinny_uncle]

NDSU ****ing sucks. Can 24 Kobe Johnson run without slipping and falling down. JFC.
One loss and the boobirds show up.

[70MilesFromCanada]

xlolx Yea dude, I know, I was being a smart ass but not that it looks like there might actually be a rivalry again with the apparent swing in fortunes, I figured I would start trash talking. Better late than never.

POD never stopped trash talking. 😜

[Schism55]

NDSU ****ing sucks. Can 24 Kobe Johnson run without slipping and falling down. JFC.

I wouldn't go that far, but Zeb moving like Dan Marino in last year in the NFL is a problem xbawlingx

[70MilesFromCanada]

When I said "your" claim to fame I wasn't talking about "you" claiming it, I didn't put words in your mouth. And you didn't get boat raced by Richmond, but Richmond sure as hell got boat raced by your co-conference champ that you didn't have to play that year.

I pointed out that you guys have a favorable schedule this year, you get to play WIU and avoid UNI (there is a difference in those two teams) and you got your first three conference games at home. And your schedule in 2016 was a gift wrapped joke, and I believe you went 3-8 the next year or some such ****.

You forgot to include NDSU in our list of this year pushovers. Just an oversight I’m sure. 😜

[POD Knows]

I wouldn't go that far, but Zeb moving like Dan Marino in last year in the NFL is a problem xbawlingxMarino got the ball out quicker and was more accurate, no real need for mobility. Front 7 on d played decent for the Bison today, good special teams play, that is about.

[JacksFan40]

From 2016....lmfao. You guys just can't help yourselves. UND is beating the supposed best in YOUR conference now and you're referencing 2016.
I am old enough to remember when the "Coyotes are better than UND this year" because in 2017 they won by 38. Where is that clown at?
I’m just annoyed that one North Dakota team starts playing like crap, and now the other one decides to fill their spot at the spot. SDSU is always playing second fiddle.

[POD Knows]

One loss and the boobirds show up.Yea, that is how it works up here. This isn't going to be NDSU's year, the team is too young and no QB. Only have 7 seniors on the roster and some of those don't see the field much. We get better QB play next fall, they could be pretty good.

And when I say they suck, that is a relative term based on the level at play at NDSU the past years, they will still be "OK" but this isn't a championship team. Pretty optimistic for the future though.

[POD Knows]

I will say that as far as message boards go, the nice thing about joining the Missouri Valley is that we have every excuse possible at our disposal when UND loses a game.You should have plenty of those handy from days gone by, why do you need to mine this board for excuses.

[F'N Hawks]

I’m just annoyed that one North Dakota team starts playing like crap, and now the other one decides to fill their spot at the spot. SDSU is always playing second fiddle.

UND has to play on the road now. Let's pump the brakes.

[Professor Chaos]

MSU had guys running free all day in the secondary. How many drops did they have. Nice win but there are a lot of “opportunities” with this team. Real young team but everybody seems to have young squads.
Yeah, this is an important thing to remember. NDSU, like most teams, basically lost 2 senior classes since they last played meaningful games. That coupled with the unique time of year these games are being played and in mostly empty venues is going to lead to some very inconsistent play. NDSU is definitely a notch below where they've been at the last few falls but who isn't? The only team that stands out in that regard right now is UND and they haven't had to play on the road yet. I think they'll have their clunkers too. The teams that end up in Frisco in May are not necessarily the teams that are playing the best right now... this will be a season where the best teams are the ones that improve the most between now and April/May.

[ysubigred]

My first time watching YSU this year. I thought that YSU looked good today. It looks like getting one of your all conference O-linemen back plus reps by others in previous games is starting to make a difference. I liked your QB #7. It sounds like your staff dropped the QB rotation and hat 6'7" TE looked good also. Your thoughts on YSU today?I posted this in another thread. Your team is light years ahead of YSU. I love your Freshman QB [emoji106]

It's obvious that YSU sucks. The worst of the team.

1. The receivers

2. Kickers

3. Running backs

The Oline is honorable mention.

Over all a nice improvement on the online and QB Waid.

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[nodak651]

Does espn always pick up NDSU's game feed? I've understood why they would use it for WIU, but was surprised to see it for Missouri State as well. Espn doesn't take NDSU's feed over midco broadcasts do they? And does NDSU have away broadcasts when there is also a midco broadcast? Also, does the MVFC pay ESPN+ to air games (saw this mentioned in CAA/FLO discussion). If so, would NDSU be paying ESPN+ to help generate advertising money, since they receive ad sales profits during football games? Just trying to understand they dynamics of how the MVFC works.

[skinny_uncle]

UND has to play on the road now. Let's pump the brakes.

Not to mention opposing coaches now have game film to study. I doubt they get through the conference unscathed.

[geaux_sioux]

Not to mention opposing coaches now have game film to study. I doubt they get through the conference unscathed.
Does this “game film” you speak of only work in favor of opposing coaches?

[Preferred Walk-On]

Does espn always pick up NDSU's game feed? I've understood why they would use it for WIU, but was surprised to see it for Missouri State as well. Espn doesn't take NDSU's feed over midco broadcasts do they? And does NDSU have away broadcasts when there is also a midco broadcast? Also, does the MVFC pay ESPN+ to air games (saw this mentioned in CAA/FLO discussion). If so, would NDSU be paying ESPN+ to help generate advertising money, since they receive ad sales profits during football games? Just trying to understand they dynamics of how the MVFC works.

As a Midco and ESPN+ subscriber, I can tell you that when NDSU also plays on MidcoSports, ESPN+ still picks up the NBC-ND feed. Also, NBC-ND broadcast still occurs, even when MidcoSports is also carrying the game. MidcoSports carries SDSU, USD, and UND, and they only carry NDSU when NDSU is playing one of those three at their house. Not sure what Missouri State's broadcast is like, so don't really know about that one, and I don't know about contract with ESPN+. I do know that every season there is one away game that is not carried by NBC-ND, and this year it is the @ Northern Iowa game on Apr 10 (this one is ESPN+ only).

[Preferred Walk-On]

Does this “game film” you speak of only work in favor of opposing coaches?

No. Works both ways. But I will say it is typically pretty darned difficult to get through the MVFC unscathed. If UND does so, they should be a 1 or 2 seed, even if JMU and Weber were to also finish unscathed. Let's cross that bridge when we get to it.

[SDFS]

As a Midco and ESPN+ subscriber, I can tell you that when NDSU also plays on MidcoSports, ESPN+ still picks up the NBC-ND feed. Also, NBC-ND broadcast still occurs, even when MidcoSports is also carrying the game. MidcoSports carries SDSU, USD, and UND, and they only carry NDSU when NDSU is playing one of those three at their house. Not sure what Missouri State's broadcast is like, so don't really know about that one, and I don't know about contract with ESPN+. I do know that every season there is one away game that is not carried by NBC-ND, and this year it is the @ Northern Iowa game on Apr 10 (this one is ESPN+ only).

I was surprised to see that Midco is covering the UND @ NDSU game this spring. I don't recall them doing that for previous games.

[F'N Hawks]

My hopes are UND finishes 6-2. They aren't suddenly better than NDSU.

[caribbeanhen]

Not to mention opposing coaches now have game film to study. I doubt they get through the conference unscathed.

or Roku or Firestick

[Schism55]

My hopes are UND finishes 6-2. They aren't suddenly better than NDSU.
Accurate imo....but I mean if there is ever a season to take advantage of the weird/wacky/bizarro world this is certainly it.... right?

[nodak651]

As a Midco and ESPN+ subscriber, I can tell you that when NDSU also plays on MidcoSports, ESPN+ still picks up the NBC-ND feed. Also, NBC-ND broadcast still occurs, even when MidcoSports is also carrying the game. MidcoSports carries SDSU, USD, and UND, and they only carry NDSU when NDSU is playing one of those three at their house. Not sure what Missouri State's broadcast is like, so don't really know about that one, and I don't know about contract with ESPN+. I do know that every season there is one away game that is not carried by NBC-ND, and this year it is the @ Northern Iowa game on Apr 10 (this one is ESPN+ only).


I was surprised to see that Midco is covering the UND @ NDSU game this spring. I don't recall them doing that for previous games.

This is interesting. I'm confused because networks typically have exclusivity when they pay for TV rights. Are away teams always allowed to have their own networks as well, with no regard to a home teams tv deals - I guess similar to radio? Like when Texas plays at some B12 location, do they typically show the games on the Longhorn network as well? If anyone knows where I could find more information about this, please let me know. It's odd that Midco is able to air the UND/NDSU game when they didn't get NDSU football rights when the tv rights contracts were being bid.

I understand that it's common for networks to pay another network to air their broadcast, but a whole standalone second broadcast with different cameras or broadcasters just seems odd when it comes to any NCAA sports.

[Preferred Walk-On]

I was surprised to see that Midco is covering the UND @ NDSU game this spring. I don't recall them doing that for previous games.

Are you sure this game is on Midco Sports? I see it on the Midco Sports schedule (https://www.midcosn.com/schedule/); however, gobison.com (https://gobison.com/sports/football/schedule) only lists NBD-ND for that game (no Midco). If this game is on Midco, then color me surprised as well, especially since the game is at the Fargodome.

[SDFS]

Are you sure this game is on Midco Sports? I see it on the Midco Sports schedule (https://www.midcosn.com/schedule/); however, gobison.com (https://gobison.com/sports/football/schedule) only lists NBD-ND for that game (no Midco). If this game is on Midco, then color me surprised as well, especially since the game is at the Fargodome.

I don't know the full details, I remember during a broadcast this spring that they talked about the game. It sounded like they would be broadcasting the game from Fargo. Then I checked the schedule and it was on the schedule including a Pre and Post game. So, it sounded like Midco would be producing the game this spring. But, I could have very easily not heard it correctly, my wife says I don't hear anything while I am watching the games.

[TheKingpin28]

Question about Gonnella. Is he leaving after this year to play pro baseball or is he staying in college? I know he signed a contract, but I haven't heard any updates since last year. Kid is a bowling ball in the backfield.

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Bump...

[nodak651]

Bump...
This is an older article, but as of July he was planning to play baseball after this season.
"Gonnella was a two-sport star at Bloomingdale (Fla.) High School, excelling in both baseball and football. The 5-foot-11, 190-pound outfielder plans on playing football as a running back for NDSU in the fall before taking the diamond for the D-backs' organization next summer."
https://www.mlb.com/news/d-backs-sign-undrafted-free-agent-dominic-gonnella

The article says they agreed to terms, rather than that he actually signed on the dotted line, so not sure if there is a contractual obligation to play ball with them or not. Who knows, maybe if he ends up turning into the starting RB he would stay and just play baseball at NDSU? I sure as hell would.

[nodak651]

Are you sure this game is on Midco Sports? I see it on the Midco Sports schedule (https://www.midcosn.com/schedule/); however, gobison.com (https://gobison.com/sports/football/schedule) only lists NBD-ND for that game (no Midco). If this game is on Midco, then color me surprised as well, especially since the game is at the Fargodome.

Game is listed on Midcosportsplus as well.

Edit: AND it's on UND's official schedule https://fightinghawks.com/sports/football/schedule Probably not a mistake.

[TheKingpin28]

This is an older article, but as of July he was planning to play baseball after this season.
"Gonnella was a two-sport star at Bloomingdale (Fla.) High School, excelling in both baseball and football. The 5-foot-11, 190-pound outfielder plans on playing football as a running back for NDSU in the fall before taking the diamond for the D-backs' organization next summer."
https://www.mlb.com/news/d-backs-sign-undrafted-free-agent-dominic-gonnella

The article says they agreed to terms, rather than that he actually signed on the dotted line, so not sure if there is a contractual obligation to play ball with them or not. Who knows, maybe if he ends up turning into the starting RB he would stay and just play baseball at NDSU? I sure as hell would.

I would have to believe that if he can nail down either the 1a or 1b (NDSU hasn't had a #1 since Crockett) he has a chance to shine and make more money in the NFL compared to MLB, but it's hard to turn pro-sports if given the chance. Would suck to see him leave after this spring. Hard to believe that the Valley has so many RBs who are not just FCS good but good overall.

[ST_Lawson]

So, anyone know what's up with the SDSU and SIU schedules for Fall 2021 with regards to their games against UNI?
SDSU lists a game on 10/23 against Northern Iowa
SIU just released their schedule which lists a game 10/23 at Northern Iowa
UNI doesn't have their fall 2021 schedule listed yet

[SUPharmacist]

So, anyone know what's up with the SDSU and SIU schedules for Fall 2021 with regards to their games against UNI?
SDSU lists a game on 10/23 against Northern Iowa
SIU just released their schedule which lists a game 10/23 at Northern Iowa
UNI doesn't have their fall 2021 schedule listed yet

What, you've never seen a football game with 3 teams before? It's awesome, in the red zone there are extra players and every kickoff has 2 receiving teams. Whoever comes away with the football gets to take possession.

[ST_Lawson]

What, you've never seen a football game with 3 teams before? It's awesome, in the red zone there are extra players and every kickoff has 2 receiving teams. Whoever comes away with the football gets to take possession.

I read a thing yesterday saying that the Canadian Football League and the new XFL were in talks for some kind of collaboration (https://www.espn.com/xfl/story/_/id/31038473/xfl-cfl-talk-potential-partnership-post-pandemic-return-field)...sounds like something they'd come up with for that.

[atthewbon]

So, anyone know what's up with the SDSU and SIU schedules for Fall 2021 with regards to their games against UNI?
SDSU lists a game on 10/23 against Northern Iowa
SIU just released their schedule which lists a game 10/23 at Northern Iowa
UNI doesn't have their fall 2021 schedule listed yet

From just taking a quick look I'm assuming it was a mistake and the SIU v. UNI game is on 10/30 as both schools have nothing scheduled that day (SDSU is scheduled to play YSU on 10/30) Though I'm not really sure.

[SDFS]

Are you sure this game is on Midco Sports? I see it on the Midco Sports schedule (https://www.midcosn.com/schedule/); however, gobison.com (https://gobison.com/sports/football/schedule) only lists NBD-ND for that game (no Midco). If this game is on Midco, then color me surprised as well, especially since the game is at the Fargodome.

In an article in the GF paper today, they said that Midco was covering and producing the game in Fargo.

[CappinHard]

Casey's has spoken.

https://twitter.com/caseysgenstore/status/1370359094473863169?s=21

[TheKingpin28]

Casey's has spoken.

https://twitter.com/caseysgenstore/status/1370359094473863169?s=21

If they want to enjoy 2nd rate success, then they can choose SDSU. Otherwise, they know where to find a winner.

[SUPharmacist]

I have been happy to see ESPN doing a regular FCS article each week this spring. They are by no stretch of the imagination high quality, but it is nice to see them. I wonder how much interest they would need to see in these articles to warrant an increase in Fall FCS coverage.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31045384/fcs-college-football-week-4-preview

[MVFCBeat]

I don't understand what is going on with Casey's. Can someone enlighten me?

[ysubigred]

I don't understand what is going on with Casey's. Can someone enlighten me?Breakfast pizza [emoji487]

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[MVFCBeat]

Breakfast pizza [emoji487]

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Haha, I know WHAT Casey's does. Casey's taco pizza is my favorite pizza this side of the Mississippi. Why are they choosing a specific team?