AGS Poll Results - WEEK 12 - 2019 SEASON

[AGSPoll]

11/18/2019



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes


1
North Dakota State Bison
2050
82


2
James Madison Dukes
1968



3
Montana Grizzlies
1862



4
Sac State Hornets
1756



5
Weber State Wildcats
1671



6
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1664



7
Illinois State Redbirds
1595



8
Montana State Bobcats
1397



9
Northern Iowa Panthers
1388



10
Villanova Wildcats
1160



11
Wofford Terriers
1039



12
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
1031



13
Central Arkansas Bears
925



14
Austin Peay Governors
835



15
Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
827



16
Furman Paladins
790



17
Monmouth Hawks
773



18
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
649



19
Florida A&M Rattlers
532



20
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
494



21
Towson Tigers
472



22
Southern Illinois Salukis
401



23
Dartmouth Big Green
305



24
Kennesaw State Owls
218



25
Nicholls State Colonels
206
















ORV:




26
Albany Great Danes
162



27
Yale Bulldogs
150



28
San Diego Toreros
121



29
North Carolina A&T Aggies
62



30
South Carolina State Bulldogs
27



31
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
24



32
Princeton Tigers
23



33
Eastern Washington Eagles
22



34
The Citadel Bulldogs
21



35T
Chattanooga Mocs
14



35T
Maine Black Bears
14



37
UC Davis Aggies
2


































Most Significant Win:

Montana Grizzlies



Most Significant Loss:

Furman Paladins



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[aceinthehole]

I would replace KSU with Yale.

[RootinFerDukes]

For the second week in a row, the CAA's #2 team is not ranked.

[Gil Dobie]

I would replace KSU with Yale.

I replaced Dartmouth with Yale.

[Professor Chaos]

Here's this week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-12-top-25-results-2/


I'll beat the Monmouth drum again this week but I think they're super underrated at #17. Their resume stacks up pretty well with almost any team in the consensus 8-12 range IMO.
According to AGS the Griz are back! Their #3 ranking in this poll is their highest in the AGS Poll since they were ranked #1 in week 1 of 2010.
Sac St sets yet another all-time high in the AGS Poll at #4.
Not seeing what's holding up Furman in the rankings still. I guess quality FBS losses? IMO they have no business being in front of the two teams directly behind them right now.

[TheKingpin28]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Sac State Hornets
4: Montana Grizzlies
5: Illinois State Redbirds
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Northern Iowa Panthers
10: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
13: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: Austin Peay Governors
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Florida A&M Rattlers
18: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
19: Furman Paladins
20: Monmouth Hawks
21: Dartmouth Big Green
22: Yale Bulldogs
23: Towson Tigers
24: Southern Illinois Salukis
25: North Carolina A&T Aggies

Here's my shot at it. Flame away

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[Professor Chaos]

I would replace KSU with Yale.
Agreed.


I replaced Dartmouth with Yale.
Dartmouth did crush Yale earlier in the year. IMO both are worthy of being ranked. Princeton definitely not.

[Professor Chaos]

This is what I came up with:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Weber State Wildcats
5: Sacramento State Hornets
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Northern Iowa Panthers
9: Monmouth Hawks
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: Austin Peay Governors
13: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
14: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
15: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Villanova Wildcats
18: Florida A&M Rattlers
19: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
20: Dartmouth Big Green
21: Southern Illinois Salukis
22: Furman Paladins
23: Yale Bulldogs
24: Albany Great Danes
25: Towson Tigers

[clickclack]

'Nova sitting there with 3 CAA loses top 10..Albany outright 2nd place team not ranked. Travesty!

Towson, team Albany beat who also is behind them in standings also ranked. LOL!!!

[Professor Chaos]

'Nova sitting there with 3 CAA loses top 10..Albany outright 2nd place team not ranked. Travesty!
I think Nova is overrated moreso than Albany is underrated. It's weird how the consensus is down on the CAA yet Villanova, with three CAA losses like you said - two of which to teams who didn't receive a single vote this week, is consensus #10.

Just going through the list no one above them even has 1 loss to a team completely out of the AGS Poll this week. Of the 10 teams ranked below them Wofford has 1, Austin Peay has 2, SELA has 2, and UND has 1 but each one of those teams has at least one win against a team ranked higher in the consensus the Towson who is Villanova's best win. Seems like a lot of people are voting off of Nova's record rather than the substance of their wins and losses.

[Derby City Duke]

Here's my take on this week's mayhem. I guess looking back I could've moved SIU into the 20s instead of including Towson. Looking forward to watching them vs. NDSU next week.

Hello Derby City Duke,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/17/2019 14:49:30

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Sac State Hornets
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Northern Iowa Panthers
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: Austin Peay Governors
12: Wofford Terriers
13: Central Arkansas Bears
14: Florida A&M Rattlers
15: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
16: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
17: Monmouth Hawks
18: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
19: Villanova Wildcats
20: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
21: Furman Paladins
22: San Diego Toreros
23: Albany Great Danes
24: Dartmouth Big Green
25: Towson Tigers

Derby City Duke

The Most Significant Win: Montana Grizzlies
The Most Significant Loss: Furman Paladins

[Bisonator]

For the second week in a row, the CAA's #2 team is not ranked.


'Nova sitting there with 3 CAA loses top 10..Albany outright 2nd place team not ranked. Travesty!

Towson, team Albany beat who also is behind them in standings also ranked. LOL!!!
Albany's schedule is pretty weak. They are #2 in the CAA because they didn't have to play JMU or Nova.

[Dukie95]

Albany getting no love.

[Reign of Terrier]

good poll, as usual at this time of year.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Illinois State Redbirds
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Sac State Hornets
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Northern Iowa Panthers
10: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
11: Austin Peay Governors
12: Montana State Bobcats
13: Furman Paladins
14: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
15: Florida A&M Rattlers
16: Dartmouth Big Green
17: San Diego Toreros
18: Yale Bulldogs
19: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
20: Monmouth Hawks
21: Villanova Wildcats
22: Southern Illinois Salukis
23: Towson Tigers
24: Central Arkansas Bears
25: Albany Great Danes

Go Lehigh TU owl

The Most Significant Win: Montana Grizzlies
The Most Significant Loss: Dartmouth Big Green
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League

[Dukie95]

Albany's schedule is pretty weak. They are #2 in the CAA because they didn't have to play JMU or Nova.

They should at least be switched with Towson, who's still riding on pre-season expectations. Albany also beat them during the season.

Albany's going to be an at-large and for them to be completely out of this poll isn't a good look.

[Professor Chaos]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Illinois State Redbirds
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Sac State Hornets
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Northern Iowa Panthers
10: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
11: Austin Peay Governors
12: Montana State Bobcats
13: Furman Paladins
14: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
15: Florida A&M Rattlers
16: Dartmouth Big Green
17: San Diego Toreros
18: Yale Bulldogs
19: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
20: Monmouth Hawks
21: Villanova Wildcats
22: Southern Illinois Salukis
23: Towson Tigers
24: Central Arkansas Bears
25: Albany Great Danes

Go Lehigh TU owl

The Most Significant Win: Montana Grizzlies
The Most Significant Loss: Dartmouth Big Green
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League
Not really sure what else Monmouth needs to do for you to have them higher. You're super high on other teams from perceived weak conferences like CCSU and San Diego. Monmouth has better wins than both of those teams combined.

[Professor Chaos]

They should at least be switched with Towson, who's still riding on pre-season expectations. Albany also beat them during the season.

Albany's going to be an at-large and for them to be completely out of this poll isn't a good look.
They aren't completely out of the poll, they're the top team in the ORV. Based on the consensus they'd be the 2nd best team left out (Kennesaw St is the last in) if the playoffs started this week. If they win this week it's pretty likely the consensus puts them in since the loser of the SELA/Nicholls game probably drops below them and SIU is likely to drop below them if they lose to NDSU.

The fact that they're 2nd in the CAA is pretty misleading as Bisonator already pointed out due to unbalanced scheduling. Their losses to Richmond and Maine are pretty clearly what's holding them down and their only good win right now is over Towson. I do think they should be a playoff team if they win, and in before Towson as well, but let's not act like they don't have their warts as well.

[Redbird 4th & short]

For the second week in a row, the CAA's #2 team is not ranked.
That's probably because 7-4 Albany does not play the current top 2 Colonial teams this year .. 10-1 JMU and 8-3 Villanova. Up until 2 weeks ago, you were 4-4 .. so it makes complete sense that you werent ranked then. Granted, youve won you last 2 against Delaware and UNH ... so I could see Albany maybe breaking into top 25 this week.

Random thought .... I wonder what ISUr record would be in MVFC if we didn't have to play the 2 or 3 of the best teams each year .. suddenly those 6-5 records could be 8-3, in theory ... must be nice.

[Professor Chaos]

That's probably because 7-4 Albany does not play the current top 2 Colonial teams this year .. 10-1 JMU and 8-3 Villanova. Up until 2 weeks ago, you were 4-4 .. so it makes complete sense that you werent ranked then. Granted, youve won you last 2 against Delaware and UNH ... so I could see Albany maybe breaking into top 25 this week.

Random thought .... I wonder what ISUr record would be in MVFC if we didn't have to play the 2 or 3 of the best teams each year .. suddenly those 6-5 records could be 8-3, in theory ... must be nice.
Villanova might be just as lucky that they didn't have to play Albany as vice versa.

[Reign of Terrier]

In a just world, the CAA would be treated like the Southland

[Bison56]

In a just world, the CAA would be treated like the Southland

xpopcornx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

They should at least be switched with Towson, who's still riding on pre-season expectations. Albany also beat them during the season.

Albany's going to be an at-large and for them to be completely out of this poll isn't a good look.


I would doubt they would be out next week since they are in the 26 spot by 40 points. It seems that a lot of voters are not looking too hard at some SOS and are undervaluing a few teams like Monmouth still which means they are not impressed with Albany either...and that is a total lack of critical thinking for sure. Voters should be doing a better job with that but I'm not sure what has gone on this year but it seems pretty lax with looking at things that ought to matter.

If Albany beats SBU I'd think they will damn sure be in there though. I'd love to see them in the playoffs. Nice to see them really doing a good job in the CAA.

The KSU over Monmouth thing was a big embarrassment for most of us but we gotta get our **** together with Albany here too folks.

[Daytripper]

In a just world, the CAA would be treated like the Southland

Please elaborate.

[uni88]

In a just world, the CAA would be treated like the Southland

The Southland is getting better as a conference and it could be argued that they are equal to or better than the SoCon.

[Catbooster]

My Ballot

Main differences with the consensus: I've got Albany, NC A&T and San Diego in; Dartmouth, Kennesaw State and Nicholls State out. Furman and Wofford lower, Southeastern Louisiana higher (all by 6 ranks).



1
North Dakota State Bison


2
James Madison Dukes


3
Sacramento State Hornets


4
Montana Grizzlies


5
South Dakota State Jackrabbits


6
Weber State Wildcats


7
Illinois State Redbirds


8
Northern Iowa Panthers


9
Montana State Bobcats


10
Villanova Wildcats


11
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks


12
Southeastern Louisiana Lions


13
Austin Peay Governors


14
Central Arkansas Bears


15
Monmouth Hawks


16
North Dakota Fighting Hawks


17
Wofford Terriers


18
Central Connecticut State Blue Devils


19
Albany Great Danes


20
Florida A&M Rattlers


21
Southern Illinois Salukis


22
Furman Paladins


23
North Carolina A&T Aggies


24
Towson Tigers


25
San Diego Toreros

[clickclack]

Villanova might be just as lucky that they didn't have to play Albany as vice versa.

Exactly, especially considering Nova lost to UNH recently whom Albany beat. That one is a likely push in terms of arguments who benefits more or less not playing the other.

[MSUBobcat]

Here's my take on this week's mayhem. I guess looking back I could've moved SIU into the 20s instead of including Towson. Looking forward to watching them vs. NDSU next week.

Hello Derby City Duke,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/17/2019 14:49:30

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Sac State Hornets
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Northern Iowa Panthers
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: Austin Peay Governors
12: Wofford Terriers
13: Central Arkansas Bears
14: Florida A&M Rattlers
15: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
16: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
17: Monmouth Hawks
18: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
19: Villanova Wildcats
20: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
21: Furman Paladins
22: San Diego Toreros
23: Albany Great Danes
24: Dartmouth Big Green
25: Towson Tigers

Derby City Duke

The Most Significant Win: Montana Grizzlies
The Most Significant Loss: Furman Paladins

How long have you had SEMO above MSU, the team that beat them by 21 earlier this year? I can't imagine their win over 1-10 EIU was more impressive than MSU's win over Davis this weekend, so I assume you've had them ahead for a while, perhaps after the UND game? MSU is 8-2 vs. FCS while SEMO is 7-2. SEMO's best win is over SIU, currently #22. MSU's best wins are over SEMO (#12 in AGS) and Davis (somehow still ORV, tho not sure how). Their FCS losses were to #8 MSU and #22 APSU. MSU's losses were to #4 Sac State and #20 UND. Better record, better wins and losses per AGS and a head to head blowout, yet ranked just behind...

Not a big deal, as the Brawl will cement our position as either a seed or hosting the first round and fed thru one of UM, Sac or Weber in round 2, but just seemed like an interesting positioning.

[Reign of Terrier]

xpopcornx


Please elaborate.


The Southland is getting better as a conference and it could be argued that they are equal to or better than the SoCon.

It has nothing to do with the Socon.

The Southland doesn't play everyone in their conference, but they play 9 conference games. CAA plays 8 conference games and is like one team bigger. In 2017, McNeese was left out of the playoffs (the southland got 3 in that year) in spite of being 9-2 (8-2 I think in the FCS that year, and I think 7-2 in conference). The justification was that McNeese hadn't beaten one of the top teams in their conference (in fact, got beat by them). The Southland got 3 in that year anyway (which they deserved at least that much).

Unless the likes of Nova/Towson/Albany can get to at least the quarterfinals, I think the CAA has earned being treated that way going forward, based on their non-JMU performances between 2017 and 2019. You shouldn't be able to land a playoff spot by virtue of getting a lucky conference schedule draw. That's all I'm saying. Right now, it looks like if the stars align in a certain way, the committee will treat the Southland that way. They won't do it to the CAA because of stuff the CAA did 10 years ago.

Heck, the CAA would have better claim to whatever playoff spots they get if they played 9 conference games instead of 8.

[smilo]

I have Maine ranked and not Albany. A 7-5 Maine team is better than an 8-4 Albany team given H2H and the contents of their schedules.

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I have Maine ranked and not Albany. A 7-5 Maine team is better than an 8-4 Albany team given H2H and the contents of their schedules.

[Reign of Terrier]

I have Maine ranked and not Albany. A 7-5 Maine team is better than an 8-4 Albany team given H2H and the contents of their schedules.

- - - Updated - - -


Conference ranking though?

[Professor Chaos]

Heck, the CAA would have better claim to whatever playoff spots they get if they played 9 conference games instead of 8.
No.

Maybe in a 12 game season that works but I loathe the 9 game conference schedule in the typical 11 game regular season. Everyone wants their FBS game (some will take two) and that leaves one game per team to play an OOC FCS school. Most CAA schools are going to want those to be home games so they'll gorge themselves on NEC/Ivy League/Patriot League teams willing to play a guarantee game and we'll learn next to nothing about how CAA teams stack up amongst playoff contenders from other conferences.

All it takes is a little research to find out who plays who and who doesn't play who in conference and an understanding when you're ranking teams from those conferences that the same conference record isn't always equal. Throw conference standing out the window basically and just look at who they beat and who they lost to.

[jmu007]

For the second week in a row, the CAA's #2 team is not ranked.

Can't blame me, I voted for 'em.

[UAalum72]

If the CAA's southern pod were switched, Albany would've played JMU, Villanova, and Elon instead of Willam and Mary, Richmond, and Towson. Albany beat Towson by 17 while Nova beat TU by 7 in overtime. Albany beat W&M by 8, Elon lost to them by 2. Albany lost to Spiders by 3 on the road, probably lose to JMU. (Or, Albany beat Towson by 17 on the road, JMU beat Towson by 17 at home.) So it's possible if not likely that Albany's record would be the same even if they played the "tougher" schedule.

And the loss to ranked Monmouth was in OT on the road.

[Reign of Terrier]

No.

Maybe in a 12 game season that works but I loathe the 9 game conference schedule in the typical 11 game regular season. Everyone wants their FBS game (some will take two) and that leaves one game per team to play an OOC FCS school. Most CAA schools are going to want those to be home games so they'll gorge themselves on NEC/Ivy League/Patriot League teams willing to play a guarantee game and we'll learn next to nothing about how CAA teams stack up amongst playoff contenders from other conferences.

All it takes is a little research to find out who plays who and who doesn't play who in conference and an understanding when you're ranking teams from those conferences that the same conference record isn't always equal. Throw conference standing out the window basically and just look at who they beat and who they lost to.


Yes, I don't think I disagree with you here. But if the committee did as you suggest, they would not have seeded Maine IMO or given Elon the benefit of the doubt with a playoff bid.

The salient point of my passive comment about the SLC/CAA is that I don't think they apply the same level of scrutiny to the CAA as they do other conferences.

[Preferred Walk-On]

Hello Preferred Walk-On,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/17/2019 10:55:14

Your vote is listed below (previous week's rank in parentheses).

1: North Dakota State Bison (1)
2: James Madison Dukes (2)
3: Montana Grizzlies (6)
4: Sac State Hornets (5)
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits (8)
6: Weber State Wildcats (3)
7: Illinois State Redbirds (7)
8: Austin Peay Governors (12)
9: Northern Iowa Panthers (4)
10: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks (11)
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks (13)
12: Montana State Bobcats (14)
13: Monmouth Hawks (15)
14: Southeastern Louisiana Lions (18)
15: Southern Illinois Salukis (17)
16: Florida A&M Rattlers (16)
17: Villanova Wildcats (NR)
18: Wofford Terriers (NR)
19: Furman Paladins (9)
20: Nicholls State Colonels (25)
21: Central Arkansas Bears (19)
22: Albany Great Danes (NR)
23: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils (23)
24: Towson Tigers (NR)
25: San Diego Toreros (NR)

The most significant win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
The most significant loss: Dartmouth Big Green
Which conference does your team play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Dropped from poll: Dartmouth Big Green (10), Sam Houston State Bearkats (20), Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks (21), Eastern Washington Eagles (22), UC Davis Aggies (24)

[Dane96]

For the second week in a row, the CAA's #2 team is not ranked.

It's ridiculous. I am just keeping quiet about it...

[Dane96]

I have Maine ranked and not Albany. A 7-5 Maine team is better than an 8-4 Albany team given H2H and the contents of their schedules.

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I have Maine ranked and not Albany. A 7-5 Maine team is better than an 8-4 Albany team given H2H and the contents of their schedules.

Explain, please.

[mvemjsunpx]

(previous week in parentheses)


1. North Dakota St. (1)
2. James Madison (2)
3. Sacramento St. (4)
4. Montana (7)
5. South Dakota St. (9)
6. Weber St. (3)
7. Dartmouth (5)
8. Northern Iowa (6)
9. Illinois St. (8)
10. Montana St. (11)
11. Southeast Missouri St. (12)
12. Monmouth (13)
13. Yale (20)
14. Central Arkansas (14)
15. Southern Illinois (15)
16. Florida A&M (16)
17. Austin Peay (17)
18. CCSU (18)
19. Southeastern Louisiana (23)
20. North Carolina A&T (24)
21. South Carolina St. (NR)
22. Wofford (NR)
23. North Dakota (21)
24. Kennesaw St. (25)
25. Nicholls St. (NR)

W - South Dakota St.
L - Furman


Dropped - Princeton (10), Furman (19), Sam Houston St. (22)

[ejjones]

It's ridiculous. I am just keeping quiet about it...
Albany should be ahead of Townson..similar resume with H2H win.

[POD Knows]

Hello POD Knows,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/17/2019 10:43:34

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Sac State Hornets
4: Montana Grizzlies
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Northern Iowa Panthers
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Wofford Terriers
10: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
11: Montana State Bobcats
12: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
13: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
14: Furman Paladins
15: Florida A&M Rattlers
16: Central Arkansas Bears
17: Towson Tigers
18: Austin Peay Governors
19: Monmouth Hawks
20: Villanova Wildcats
21: Southern Illinois Salukis
22: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
23: Yale Bulldogs
24: Kennesaw State Owls
25: North Carolina A&T Aggies

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
The Most Significant Loss: Furman Paladins
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[Catbooster]

(previous week in parentheses)


1. North Dakota St. (1)
2. James Madison (2)
3. Sacramento St. (4)
4. Montana (7)
5. South Dakota St. (9)
6. Weber St. (3)
7. Dartmouth (5)
8. Northern Iowa (6)
9. Illinois St. (8)
10. Montana St. (11)
11. Southeast Missouri St. (12)
12. Monmouth (13)
13. Yale (20)
14. Central Arkansas (14)
15. Southern Illinois (15)
16. Florida A&M (16)
17. Austin Peay (17)
18. CCSU (18)
19. Southeastern Louisiana (23)
20. North Carolina A&T (24)
21. South Carolina St. (NR)
22. Wofford (NR)
23. North Dakota (21)
24. Kennesaw St. (25)
25. Nicholls St. (NR)

W - South Dakota St.
L - Furman


Dropped - Princeton (10), Furman (19), Sam Houston St. (22)
Dartmouth up 2 ranks after losing at home to Cornell?

Edit: dropped two ranks. Not sure how I misread that.

[POD Knows]

Dartmouth up 2 ranks after losing at home to Cornell?He dropped them 2 but he should have dropped them more, no way they belong in the top 10, sorry.

[Catbooster]

He dropped them 2 but he should have dropped them more, no way they belong in the top 10, sorry.
You're right. I sure read that wrong. Maybe my wife is right about either my eyesight or paying attention.

[mvemjsunpx]

He dropped them 2 but he should have dropped them more, no way they belong in the top 10, sorry.

We all have a 4-loss team in the top-10. The standards aren't that high.

[POD Knows]

You're right. I sure read that wrong. Maybe my wife is right about either my eyesight or paying attention.Yea, I am trying to figure out how Towson got 17 in my poll.

[POD Knows]

We all have a 4-loss team in the top-10. The standards aren't that high.Yea, and I may have Wofford too high and I have Towson too high as well but it is a complete crap shoot after 7 or 8.

[vutomcat]

(previous week in parentheses)


1. North Dakota St. (1)
2. James Madison (2)
3. Sacramento St. (4)
4. Montana (7)
5. South Dakota St. (9)
6. Weber St. (3)
7. Dartmouth (5)
8. Northern Iowa (6)
9. Illinois St. (8)
10. Montana St. (11)
11. Southeast Missouri St. (12)
12. Monmouth (13)
13. Yale (20)
14. Central Arkansas (14)
15. Southern Illinois (15)
16. Florida A&M (16)
17. Austin Peay (17)
18. CCSU (18)
19. Southeastern Louisiana (23)
20. North Carolina A&T (24)
21. South Carolina St. (NR)
22. Wofford (NR)
23. North Dakota (21)
24. Kennesaw St. (25)
25. Nicholls St. (NR)

W - South Dakota St.
L - Furman


Dropped - Princeton (10), Furman (19), Sam Houston St. (22)



NO NOVA? NO ALBANY? NO TOWSON? NO LOVE FOR THE CAA

[caribbeanhen]

Yea, I am trying to figure out how Towson got 17 in my poll.

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[mvemjsunpx]

NO NOVA? NO ALBANY? NO TOWSON? NO LOVE FOR THE CAA

Exactly.

The CAA-minus-JMU isn't any better than the Ivy League, and it's weaker at the top.

[ejjones]

Exactly.

The CAA-minus-JMU isn't any better than the Ivy League, and it's weaker at the top.
Ouch..

[Derby City Duke]

How long have you had SEMO above MSU, the team that beat them by 21 earlier this year? I can't imagine their win over 1-10 EIU was more impressive than MSU's win over Davis this weekend, so I assume you've had them ahead for a while, perhaps after the UND game? MSU is 8-2 vs. FCS while SEMO is 7-2. SEMO's best win is over SIU, currently #22. MSU's best wins are over SEMO (#12 in AGS) and Davis (somehow still ORV, tho not sure how). Their FCS losses were to #8 MSU and #22 APSU. MSU's losses were to #4 Sac State and #20 UND. Better record, better wins and losses per AGS and a head to head blowout, yet ranked just behind...

Not a big deal, as the Brawl will cement our position as either a seed or hosting the first round and fed thru one of UM, Sac or Weber in round 2, but just seemed like an interesting positioning.

Moved them ahead 4 weeks ago (Week 9 poll). Sorry it took me a bit to respond -- been under the weather. Good luck this week in the Brawl!

[Bisonator]

Hello Bisonator,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/17/2019 19:05:10

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Sac State Hornets
4: Montana Grizzlies
5: Illinois State Redbirds
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Northern Iowa Panthers
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Austin Peay Governors
12: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
13: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: Monmouth Hawks
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
18: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
19: Florida A&M Rattlers
20: Southern Illinois Salukis
21: Furman Paladins
22: San Diego Toreros
23: Kennesaw State Owls
24: Albany Great Danes
25: Nicholls State Colonels

Bisonator

[grizband]

Here's my poll this week. SEMO might be too high, and SELA might be a few spots low. Im sure other posters will find issues, but those were the first I noticed in second reflection.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Weber State Wildcats
5: Sac State Hornets
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Northern Iowa Panthers
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Austin Peay Governors
14: Monmouth Hawks
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
17: Furman Paladins
18: Dartmouth Big Green
19: Florida A&M Rattlers
20: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
21: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
22: Towson Tigers
23: Yale Bulldogs
24: Southern Illinois Salukis
25: Kennesaw State Owls

The Most Significant Win: Montana Grizzlies
The Most Significant Loss: Furman Paladins
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Big Sky Conference


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[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Exactly.

The CAA-minus-JMU isn't any better than the Ivy League, and it's weaker at the top.

Perhaps it is weaker at the top [of the rest], but I would argue it's a lot stronger at the bottom. There's a reason Villanova has a couple losses in conference, and it's not all about Villanova necessarily. URI being down to VT by only a touchdown at the start of the 4th quarter speaks to the depth of the CAA. URI was only a handful of plays away from being a .500 team this year.