Cubbies

[PantherRob82]

Cubs are back on track and up 2-0 today. Now if we can only get Milwaukee to start losing. xrolleyesx Any other Cubs fans out there?

[bonarae]

I'm here, but they lost... seems we would be back up again soon.

[AppGuy04]

I'm a Cubbies fan

Soriano is finally starting to come around.

I'm kinda torn on Derrek Lee. Don't know if I like 40 HR Derrek or the guy who is currently hovering around .400

The pitching staff, sans Zambrano has been lights out. If he can snap back into form, the staff would be one of the best in MLB

[ngineer]

Don't speak too soon! I was there last night and watched "Pat the Bat's" two monster mashes knock in 5! Hamel K'd 7 in 7--two solo mistakes. Soriano, though, is one tough cookie. I wish the Phils had made a run at him.
I'm going to be in Chicago next week and got tickets for Cubs/White Sox on Friday! Feel pretty lucky since I hear they are tough to get. Looking forward to my first visit to Wrigley since 1994.;)

[GeauxColonels]

HUGE Cubs fan down here in Baton Rouge. It drives me crazy to see how they played against Pittsburgh and now Philly. Talk about a roller coaster!!!

And to make matters worse....I'm surrounded by Astros fans here in south Louisiana.xbangx xbangx xbangx xbangx xbangx xbangx xbangx xbangx xbangx

[Ivytalk]

I hope we get to see at least one Piniella meltdown this weekend in Philly!:D

[PantherRob82]

Yeah, Zambrano needs to pick things up.

[AppGuy04]

Brew crew up 12-3 in the 9th over the Mets so we need this one today

Angel Guzman on the mound, he's been iffy

[AppGuy04]

Soriano extends his hitting streak to 20 games

[*****]

Cubs all the way!

[Eyes of Old Main]

Since you guys brought up the Cubs, I have a question I've been curious about for sometime. I'll start by saying that I am not a Cubs fan, but I don't really have anything against them so this isn't meant to be an attack on any level. I have been to a game in Wrigley (June of 1992) nad enjoyed it.

So here goes, part of the charm that draws people to the Cubs is the loveable loser culture they've played up forever. That culture is a big part of what makes the Cubs different than most every other Major League team. Only the Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers and maybe the Cardinals have the same level of passion and tradition seperates them from the cookie cutter franchises everyone else has.

That being the case, what would it do to Cubs Nation if they actually won a World Series title?

Would they lose their identity? What would then seperate them from the Angels, Diamondbacks or Marlins except having a more historic ballpark? Would Cubs fans around the country that had no tie to the franchise due to having lived in Chicago at some point lose interest?

Don't take any of this the wrong way, I've just always been curious as to what effect it would have on their perception if the won a World Series. What do Cubs fans themselves think?

[*****]

... part of the charm that draws people to the Cubs is the loveable loser culture... except having a more historic ballpark... I've just always been curious as to what effect it would have on their perception if the won a World Series..."Lovable loser culture" is a TV creation and doesn't really exist in Chicagoland. The Cubs are not losers and have done more than a lot of teams outside of winning WS recently. The thing about the Cubs is historic and Wrigley. Win another WS and that just heightens the allure.

[EKU05]

Since you guys brought up the Cubs, I have a question I've been curious about for sometime. I'll start by saying that I am not a Cubs fan, but I don't really have anything against them so this isn't meant to be an attack on any level. I have been to a game in Wrigley (June of 1992) nad enjoyed it.

So here goes, part of the charm that draws people to the Cubs is the loveable loser culture they've played up forever. That culture is a big part of what makes the Cubs different than most every other Major League team. Only the Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers and maybe the Cardinals have the same level of passion and tradition seperates them from the cookie cutter franchises everyone else has.

That being the case, what would it do to Cubs Nation if they actually won a World Series title?

Would they lose their identity? What would then seperate them from the Angels, Diamondbacks or Marlins except having a more historic ballpark? Would Cubs fans around the country that had no tie to the franchise due to having lived in Chicago at some point lose interest?

Don't take any of this the wrong way, I've just always been curious as to what effect it would have on their perception if the won a World Series. What do Cubs fans themselves think?


Why don't you ask the Red Sox? Doesn't seem to have hurt them when their legendary "curse" ended.

GO CUBS!

[Eyes of Old Main]

Why don't you ask the Red Sox? Doesn't seem to have hurt them when their legendary "curse" ended.

True, but they've had a lot more success short of winning the World Series during their drought. The Cubs strike me as historic losers, the Red Sox as historic chokers.

[ngineer]

I think the 'Wrigley Field' aura has a lot to do with it. Playing more games in the daytime than anyone -- it all pulls us back toward a time where we wish the Game still was...xnodx

[AppGuy04]

I don't think winning the WS can ever hurt anyone

If anything, it will be similar to the Red Sox, you have your diehard fans, and then you have the bandwagon fans that hop aboard after you win

[PantherRob82]

Since you guys brought up the Cubs, I have a question I've been curious about for sometime. I'll start by saying that I am not a Cubs fan, but I don't really have anything against them so this isn't meant to be an attack on any level. I have been to a game in Wrigley (June of 1992) nad enjoyed it.

So here goes, part of the charm that draws people to the Cubs is the loveable loser culture they've played up forever. That culture is a big part of what makes the Cubs different than most every other Major League team. Only the Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers and maybe the Cardinals have the same level of passion and tradition seperates them from the cookie cutter franchises everyone else has.

That being the case, what would it do to Cubs Nation if they actually won a World Series title?

Would they lose their identity? What would then seperate them from the Angels, Diamondbacks or Marlins except having a more historic ballpark? Would Cubs fans around the country that had no tie to the franchise due to having lived in Chicago at some point lose interest?

Don't take any of this the wrong way, I've just always been curious as to what effect it would have on their perception if the won a World Series. What do Cubs fans themselves think?

I think it would make things even more crazy. Can hardly get good tickets as it is.

[AppGuy04]

4 runs off Tom Glavine in the first 2, without Derrek Lee

[th0m]

I think the 'Wrigley Field' aura has a lot to do with it. Playing more games in the daytime than anyone -- it all pulls us back toward a time where we wish the Game still was...xnodx

Here's a pic I took last season when I was in Chicago, should give you a bit of that Wrigley Field aura hopefully!

http://k53.pbase.com/o4/48/583048/1/64763904.gQYau7mi._MG_7401.jpg

[AppGuy04]

thats an awesome pic dude

[Col Hogan]

I moved to Fort Wayne IN in 1982, and wanted to root for a midwest team. Since I'm a born and bred die-hard Red Sox fan, it had to be a National League team...either the Reds or the Cubs. I picked the Cubs because until 2004, they and my Red Sox had so much in common...they would build up your hopes only to dash them. I also think Wrigley and Fenway are the two best parks in baseball.

Every year I follow the Cubs quietly as I roar for my Sox...and will always pull for the Cubs until they meet the Red Sox in the World Series...then, I have to pull for my Sox.....

And tonight, since they are playing a New York team, I especially will pull for the Cubs.

[PantherRob82]

Cubs sucked it up tonight. At least on the mound. Way to walk in the winning run. xnonono2x

[GeauxColonels]

Why don't you ask the Red Sox? Doesn't seem to have hurt them when their legendary "curse" ended.

GO CUBS!
Man...a Colonel AND a Cubbie!!! I like you more and more! xthumbsupx

[PantherRob82]

Only thing worse than the pitching was the commentary.

After the Cubs intentionally walked a player, the pitcher got down 2-0 on the batter. The genius from ESPN said "Well after throwing those intentional balls your muscles get in a rhythm and it's hard to get out of it" (or something to that effect). He was then stupid enough to repeat it again later.

I'm sure your muscles adapt to throwing those 4 balls way more than throwing in your regular motion. xrolleyesx

[gmoney55]

Rick Sutcliffe on that one, he wasn't very impressive to say the least.

[AppGuy04]

Rick Sutcliffe on that one, he wasn't very impressive to say the least.
was he ever?

[whitey]

Rick Sutcliffe on that one, he wasn't very impressive to say the least.

Is ESPN trying to lose viewers? Sutcliffe and Dusty Baker? I actually MUTED my television last night. When they started arguing over their #1 starter selections is when I lost it. They sounded like a bunch of 14 year old girls arguing about god knows what. Not one of those dummies picked Santana so ESPN maybe realizing their error in placing these 2 in the booth at the same time had to cut over to Steve Phillips to get it right.

[AppGuy04]

Is ESPN trying to lose viewers? Sutcliffe and Dusty Baker? I actually MUTED my television last night. When they started arguing over their #1 starter selections is when I lost it. They sounded like a bunch of 14 year old girls arguing about god knows what. Not one of those dummies picked Santana so ESPN maybe realizing their error in placing these 2 in the booth at the same time had to cut over to Steve Phillips to get it right.

yeah, that was rather annoying

a great game ruined by lousy commentators

[th0m]

thats an awesome pic dude

Thanks xnodx

Because the Cubs lost, I'll post some more pictures to take away from the pain...(just take off your reading glasses for the last picture!)

http://k41.pbase.com/o5/48/583048/1/67307236.pTjM6dFs._MG_7406.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/o5/48/583048/1/67307235.jaOvnCEX._MG_7381.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/o5/48/583048/1/67307239.3bCHAcMC._MG_7429.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/o5/48/583048/1/67307237.L7fpnvdl._MG_7425.jpg

[AppGuy04]

^my new background(B&W)

[AppGuy04]

Zambrano vs Maine tonight

Can Zambrano get things turned around and turn the Cubs staff into the best in the NL? Or will Maine continue his dominance?

[th0m]

^my new background(B&W)

:) I'm glad you like them! If you need a higher res image, let me know, I'd be happy to give you one.

[whitey]

You do realize Cliff Floyd is on the Cubs now right? :-)

[PantherRob82]

Zambrano better step up tonight.

Great pics.

[AppGuy04]

3-0 Cubbies after 2

Maine walked 2 of the first 3 batters and Daryle Ward doubled them in

[AppGuy04]

9-1 after 7, great game for Zambrano, hope he can go the distance

[Ivytalk]

Go Cubs! Stomp the Mutts!:D

[AppGuy04]

10-1 Cubbies

8 innings, 1 ER, 6 H, 3 BB, 3 K's for Zambrano, hope this gets him back on track

[AppGuy04]

18-19 now, 5.5 behind Brew Crew, as they have lost 3 in a row

Rich Hill vs Jorge Sosa

Hill has been outstanding this year except for his last start against Philly, where he gave up 5 in 5

Sosa, formerly with St Louis and Atlanta, has plenty of talent but has always been hit or miss. Great fastball but erratic at times. So far so good this year in 2 starts, hasn't given up more than 2 ER in either start.

[PantherRob82]

Cubs and Zambrano finally showed up.

[AppGuy04]

Game delayed

[AppGuy04]

Game finally got started at around 10:30pm, ending at 1am

Mets dominate, winning 8-1

Turn around and today's game is at 1pm, gonna be brutal

[Dukie95]

The Mets are putting up a relatively weak lineup today with only two regulars (Green and Delgado) starting.

That should make the Cubs feel as though they're back playing against the NL central again, and have a good chance today.

[AppGuy04]

1-0 Cubs after 4, Angel Guzman has 4 K thru 4 innings

and the Cubs are playing without Derrek Lee again, no Cliff Floyd, or Michael Barrett

this is what happens when you play less than 12 hours after you finished the previous game

[AppGuy04]

Gotay doubles in a run, tied at 1-1 in the 5th

[AppGuy04]

End of 5, tied 1-1

Mets have 6 hits, Cubs 2

Guzman has been in trouble almost every inning but the Mets can't capitalize. Still waiting for Carlos Delgado to wake up, as is all of NY

[AppGuy04]

Angel Pagan 2 run homer, 3-1 Cubbies

Pagan is batting over .430 since his call up

[AppGuy04]

Aramis goes deep 2 batters later, 5-1 Cubs

[AppGuy04]

Still 5-1 Cubs after 7

[AppGuy04]

Dempster has given up 2 in the 9th, bases still loaded with 1 out

[Dukie95]

Still waiting for Carlos Delgado to wake up, as is all of NY

I'll take two walk-off game-winning RBIs in a series.

[AppGuy04]

xbangx xbangx xbangx xbangx xshakingmadx xshakingmadx xdohx xdohx
Mets score 5 in the bottom of the 9th to win 6-5

[gmoney55]

Wow! Total implosion by the Cubbies and Mets took advantage. Good job using the bench by Willie.

[Dukie95]

Wow! Total implosion by the Cubbies and Mets took advantage. Good job using the bench by Willie.

Yeah, the Beltran pinch hit was a no-brainer, but the Wright for Green one was rather shocking, despite the lefty reliever. Green's just been better than Wright this season. I actually thought he'd bring in Reyes for Gotay.

[AppGuy04]

Lou is gonna be pissed!

[MYTAPPY]

xbangx xbangx xbangx xbangx xshakingmadx xshakingmadx xdohx xdohx
Mets score 5 in the bottom of the 9th to win 6-5

Way to go Cubbies, you can't close and now my Bravos are 1.5 games out, due to the fact that Bobby let Chuck James go too long and the Braves once again can't hold a lead. Way to keep James in knowing he was spent. Very few times Bobby makes a mistake, he did today. Very frustrating afternoonxbangx xflamemadx

[gmoney55]

How bout the Nats winning six of seven? Didn't think that would happen this year

[MYTAPPY]

How bout the Nats winning six of seven? Didn't think that would happen this year

You have to rub it in don't you gmoney??xrulesx

[gmoney55]

Haha sorry.

[PantherRob82]

Cubs totally blew it today. What a loser. Get rid of Dempster.

[AppGuy04]

Cubs totally blew it today. What a loser. Get rid of Dempster.
Wouldn't go that far, but I might be looking at another guy as the closer

[whitey]

but the Wright for Green one was rather shocking, despite the lefty reliever. Green's just been better than Wright this season. I actually thought he'd bring in Reyes for Gotay.

No. It was a complete no-brainer to have Wright (or Reyes) hit for Green in that situation. I agree about Reyes over Gotay, but I think Willie was being overly cautious with Reyes.

Here are the #'s (yes I'm aware of the small sample sizes), but I still think you'll see that he has to pinch hit Wright over Green.

Green has been terrible against lefties: .244 Avg. .311 OBP. .293 SLG (YIKES).

Wright against lefties: .282 Avg. .356 OBP. .359 SLG
Reyes against lefties: .442 Avg. .449 OBP. .698 SLG

Wright had a terrible April, true, but he is back to his old self in May:
.328 Avg, .353 OBP, .602 SLG, 6 2B, 4 HR, 14 RBI.

Willie had no intentions of using Reyes yesterday due to the hamstring "cramp" the night before. Not when the Mets next 6 games are against the Yankees and Braves. So he has to use his best available right-handed bat in that situation and that is Wright.

[AppGuy04]

Barrett v. Pierzynski 2 starts today at 2:20PM ET

Buehrle vs Lilly today- should be a great showdown

[AppGuy04]

2-1 White Sox after 2

Michael Barrett and Jermain Dye have both hit solo shots

[AppGuy04]

Top 7: Erstad doubles in a run

Bottom 7: Pagan continues to be hot, tripling in 2 runs. Pagan then scores on a pass ball

4-3 Cubs after 7

[AppGuy04]

Cubs score 2 more in the 8th, win 6-3

Lilly with the win, Dempster with the save

[PantherRob82]

Cubs win! Cubs win! finally.

[ngineer]

I was there today with Ralph in section 236. what a glorious day. I'm a Phillie fan, but being in Chicago meant having to go to 'mecca'. Perfect weather and the game had everything:home runs, good pitching early, shodding fielding by the Sox..the fans were really into it. I loved watching the interplay between the two factions. Felt good for Cub-Nation and for Ralph who got to see his beloved Cubbies rally from behind.xnodx

[PantherRob82]

Wouldn't go that far, but I might be looking at another guy as the closer

Dempster has sucked it up this year and hasn't had good stuff for a while.

[PantherRob82]

I was there today with Ralph in section 236. what a glorious day. I'm a Phillie fan, but being in Chicago meant having to go to 'mecca'. Perfect weather and the game had everything:home runs, good pitching early, shodding fielding by the Sox..the fans were really into it. I loved watching the interplay between the two factions. Felt good for Cub-Nation and for Ralph who got to see his beloved Cubbies rally from behind.xnodx

Sounds like a great time. It's funny, because I was actaully supposed to go today as well.

[AppGuy04]

Javier Vazquez vs Jason Marquis today- 3:55ET Fox

Vazquez is 0-2 in his last 5 starts, with 3 ND. He last pitched against KC, giving up 4 ER in 6 innings. Sox lost that game 11-1

Marquis has 5 of his last 6 starts. His last start at NYM was a no decision, as he gave up 4 ER in 5 innings, by far his worst outing of the season. Cubs lost that game 5-4 as Michael Wuertz walked in the winning run

[AppGuy04]

No runs, no hits for either team in the first

[AppGuy04]

Ward doubles in Aramis

1-0 Cubs

[AppGuy04]

Jacque Jones hits sacrifice fly

2-0 Cubs

[AppGuy04]

2-0 Cubs after 2

[AppGuy04]

White Sox score 3 in the top of the 4th, 3-2 Sox going to the Cubs half of the 4th

[AppGuy04]

3-2 Sox after 4

[AppGuy04]

Michael Barrett solo shot leading off the 5th, 3-3

[AppGuy04]

Jason Marquis helps his own cause hitting a 2 run homer

5-3 Cubs

[AppGuy04]

Joe Crede hits a 2 run jack, 5-5, top 6

[PantherRob82]

back to back wins over the sox. I'll take it! xthumbsupx

[AppGuy04]

back to back wins over the sox. I'll take it! xthumbsupx

and D Lee off the bench with a pinch hit grand slam, NICE!!!

[AppGuy04]

Carlos Zambrano(4-3, 5.13) vs Nick Masset(1-1, 6.61) today, 2:20 ET

Zambrano comes off easily his best start of the year, going 8 innings and only giving up 1 ER to the Mets. Cubs won that game 10-1. Zambrano's problem has been HR's. He has given up atleast 1 HR in all of his starts except 1, which was only a 4 innings outing. If he can keep the ball in the park, he should be in good shape.

This is Masset's first start of the season. His last outing, he gave up 4 ER in 2/3 of an inning to KC

[PantherRob82]

1 minute until gametime. Let's get the sweep.

[AppGuy04]

No game today.

Start the week 6 games behind Milwaukee

Bre Crew went 3-7 in their last 10 games and we only gained 1 game on them as the Cubs have gone 4-6

[PantherRob82]

6 games behind isn't bad. Made up a game or so this week. Plenty of time left in the season.

[AppGuy04]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2877350

Dempster staying in closer role

[AppGuy04]

3 game series at San Diego starting today

Game 1
Rich Hill(4-3, 2.91 ERA)vs Jake Peavy(5-1, 1.64 ERA)

Peavy has been HOT!!!! Lets hope we can slow him down

[PantherRob82]

Let's go cubbies!

[PantherRob82]

2 straight losses to the padres for a total of 3 straight. xsmhx

[AppGuy04]

Man, San Diego has a killer pitching staff

Tonight
CHC: J. Marquis (5-1, 2.76)
SD: C. Young (5-3, 2.89)

[PantherRob82]

With Marquis tonight hopefully they can get the win.

[AppGuy04]

With Marquis tonight hopefully they can get the win.

Should be another pitchers duel

Good thing is though, the Cubs can pitch with just about anyone's starting rotation. If the offense can ever become consistant, we can make a move. Milwaukee has started to level off a bit, 6.5 games out right now

Brewers have lost 2 in a row, 3-7 in the last 10
Astros have lost 4 in a row, 4-6
Cubs 2 in a row, 4-6

Now is the time to make a move. We've got LAD this weekend in LA, then home for 3 with the Marlins

[PantherRob82]

Now is the time to make a move. We've got LAD this weekend in LA, then home for 3 with the Marlins

We would be doing great had we already made the move. Instead we kept up.

[AppGuy04]

Cubs get their first hit in the 5th

1-1 in the top of the 5th

[AppGuy04]

Cubs win 3-1, another great pitching performance by Jason Marquis

[AppGuy04]

Tonight's matchup

CHC: T. Lilly (4-2, 2.69)
LAD: D. Lowe (4-5, 3.84)

[AppGuy04]

Ugh, we score 7 in the 7th and then give up 4 in the 8th to lose 9-8

[AppGuy04]

Today's game:

CHC: C. Zambrano (4-4, 5.61)
LAD: M. Hendrickson (2-1, 3.22)

[GeauxColonels]

I went to bed after the Cubs finished up the 7th inning. I'm not sure if I should be mad that I missed the meltdown in the 8th or happy I didn't have to sit through it.

Either way, we need better pitching! xbangx xbangx xbangx xbangx

[AZGrizFan]

If you boys are livin' and dyin' over the Cub's chances, you all are going to be sorely dissappointed.....AGAIN. xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[AppGuy04]

Either way, we need better pitching! xbangx xbangx xbangx xbangx

from the bullpen, the starters have been outstanding for the most part

[AppGuy04]

The Brewers have now lost 6 in a row, 2-8 in their last 10. Cubs have only been 4-6, now 5 games back

[BobbyMo]

the whole nl central is awful... if any of you guys enjoy bodog, and the nl central is not playing within the central, take the other team and thank me in the morning.

[AppGuy04]

the whole nl central is awful... if any of you guys enjoy bodog, and the nl central is not playing within the central, take the other team and thank me in the morning.

if I had the money, i'd def heed your advice

[AppGuy04]

Tonight:

FLA: D. Willis (6-3, 4.80)
CHC: J. Marquis (5-1, 2.60)

I think everyone has become accustomed to Dontrele's windup, he's starting to get hit pretty hard. His WHIP, at 1.54 is above the league average of 1.38

[AppGuy04]

D Lee hits a shot

1-0 Cubs in the 1st

[AppGuy04]

Derrek Lee RBI ground rule double, 2-0 Cubs after 3

[AppGuy04]

Dontrelle helps his own cause with an RBI hit

2-2 after 3 1/2

[AppGuy04]

3 run homer for Hermida, 5-2 Marlins in the 5th

[AppGuy04]

2 run jack by Theriot!! Man I love this kid!

5-4 Marlins after 7

[PantherRob82]

stupid cubs...a win today would make it the 6th win in 18 games. xrolleyesx

[AppGuy04]

stupid cubs...a win today would make it the 6th win in 18 games. xrolleyesx

ain't over yet, but yes, a few more wins lately and we'd be in first place

[AppGuy04]

the bullpen fails us again

[PantherRob82]

ain't over yet, but yes, a few more wins lately and we'd be in first place

they just seem to be choking left and right. Most of those games were close.

[PantherRob82]

the bullpen fails us again

we need to sweep the brewers.xrolleyesx

[AppGuy04]

we need to sweep the brewers.xrolleyesx

wouldn't be difficult for anyone else the way they are playing

but for the Cubs?xconfusedx

[AppGuy04]

Final 9-4 Marlins

[AppGuy04]

Tonight, 8:05 ET
FLA: S. Mitre (2-2, 1.89)
CHC: T. Lilly (4-2, 3.20)

Mitre, the former Cub will be looking for some revenge

[PantherRob82]

Can we trade for Kobe? xeyebrowx

[AppGuy04]

Can we trade for Kobe? xeyebrowx

can he pitch the 8th?

[PantherRob82]

can he pitch the 8th?

probably better than our bullpen.

[AppGuy04]

well, when you get shut out by the freakin Marlins, it doesn't much matter who pitches

[AppGuy04]

Now we have the Braves:

Fri, Jun 1 2:20 pm EDT C. Zambrano vs. K. Davies
Sat, Jun 2 1:05 pm EDT R. Hill vs. C. James
Sun, Jun 3 2:20 pm EDT S. Marshall vs. J. Smoltz

[PantherRob82]

xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

Might be time to start packing it up. xlolx

[AppGuy04]

Start the day 6.5 games back. 2-8 in the last 10 games. 12-15 in the month of May

ATL: K. Davies (2-3, 5.51)
CHC: C. Zambrano (5-4, 5.24)

[MYTAPPY]

My Bravos handing it to the Cubbies at the moment.xthumbsupx

ATL: 7
Cubs: 1

End of 5

[whitey]

My Bravos handing it to the Cubbies at the moment.xthumbsupx

ATL: 7
Cubs: 1

End of 5

I heard Barrett and Z got into a fight in the dugout too. Wow. I think it's time for Lou to throw a base or something.

[MYTAPPY]

Braves: 8
Cubs: 1

After 6 1/2 innings.

[AppGuy04]

8-5 loss

and...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AtYNsFeQcij7oc.Lek98W405nYcB?slug=ap-cubsargument&prov=ap&type=lgns

[dbackjon]

8-5 loss

and...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AtYNsFeQcij7oc.Lek98W405nYcB?slug=ap-cubsargument&prov=ap&type=lgns

you need to switch to a real team, like the NL-West leading DIAMONDBACKS!!!

[AppGuy04]

you need to switch to a real team, like the NL-West leading DIAMONDBACKS!!!

haha, sorry dude, my Dad is a diehard Cubs fan

Ironically, named me after an Orioles 3rd baseman, I think you've heard of himxsmiley_wix

[dbackjon]

haha, sorry dude, my Dad is a diehard Cubs fan

Ironically, named me after an Orioles 3rd baseman, I think you've heard of himxsmiley_wix

Mark xxxxxx??

I grew up a Diehard Cubs fan - but the cheapness of the Tribune company made me much less of a fan - then, when Arizona got an expansion franchise - that is where my heart is now. I would like to see the Cubs win some day, but it is all DBACKS!!

[PantherRob82]

Dbacks? sure you didn't jump on the bandwagon after their championship? ;)

[dbackjon]

Dbacks? sure you didn't jump on the bandwagon after their championship? ;)

Quite sure...I've been using the name dback jon on line since 1999

[ISUMatt]

haha, sorry dude, my Dad is a diehard Cubs fan

Ironically, named me after an Orioles 3rd baseman, I think you've heard of himxsmiley_wix

Len Sakata?
Wayne Gross?
Floyd Rayford?

oh. oh. oh

Ex White Sox Tim Hulett

[blackfordpu]

Looks like the Cubs have a civil war going on.

Yea, it is the catchers fault the pitcher can't hit his marks.

[EKU05]

Looks like the Cubs have a civil war going on.

Yea, it is the catchers fault the pitcher can't hit his marks.

No one loves Barrett more than I do, and no one thinks Big Z needs to control his temper more than I do.

With that said, I watched the game, and Barrett did make more than one glaring mistake. Zambrano didn't bring his "A" game, but he wasn't nearly as horrible as the score indicated when he was pulled. The Cubs defense, which had been their saving grace, was beyond terrible today.

[PantherRob82]

Zambrano sucks. Also, notice how many punches Barrett threw. 1 player went to the hospital for treatment. It wasn't Zambrano. Cut the guy. He's sucking the life out of this team. Trade him for grass seed. Anything would be better than having his 5th inning meltdowns and retarted temper.

[AppGuy04]

Len Sakata?
Wayne Gross?
Floyd Rayford?

oh. oh. oh

Ex White Sox Tim Hulett

Hint: He's in the Hall and his initials are B.R.

[AppGuy04]

Zambrano sucks. Also, notice how many punches Barrett threw. 1 player went to the hospital for treatment. It wasn't Zambrano. Cut the guy. He's sucking the life out of this team. Trade him for grass seed. Anything would be better than having his 5th inning meltdowns and retarted temper.

and the Cubs are still trying to decide if they want to sign him long term

[AppGuy04]

ATL: C. James (5-4, 3.86)
CHC: R. Hill (4-4, 3.06)

Lets hope Rich can get us back on track. I think the scuffle will help the team focus, with or without Zambrano

[douglasdmb]

Cubs are off to a nice lead early, Soriano homered and Derosa hit a grand slam already.

Even as a Cub fan, this article that ESPN.com published today is right on.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2890891

This has to be the darkest time that the franchise has seen since we blew the NLCS in '03, which says a lot considering nothing has happened but losing in that time.

[AppGuy04]

10-1 win today. Hopefully this will get them going.

[AppGuy04]

3 game set with Milwaukee. Now is the time to make a move.

Tonight's pitching matchup:
CHC: J. Marquis (5-2, 2.93)
MIL: D. Bush (3-5, 5.64)

[AppGuy04]

Soriano goes 5-5 and Cubs win 7-2, thats 2 in a row

Today's matchup:
CHC: Lilly (4-3, 3.52 ERA)
MIL: Vargas (3-1, 3.90 ERA)

[AppGuy04]

Sweet Lou suspended 4 games: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2891897

[douglasdmb]

Soriano is really coming on and is finally showing why he's the highest-paid player on the team. Ramirez is heating up a bit too, so we *should* be able to win some more games.

[AppGuy04]

Soriano is really coming on and is finally showing why he's the highest-paid player on the team. Ramirez is heating up a bit too, so we *should* be able to win some more games.

we just need to shore up the bullpen

[AppGuy04]

Sorie leads off with a double, now 11 for his last 14, yeah baby!

[AppGuy04]

Soriano stranded at 2nd, 0 for 3 in that innings with RISP

[AppGuy04]

Sac fly by Fielder, 1-0 Brewers

[douglasdmb]

Sorie leads off with a double, now 11 for his last 14, yeah baby!

How many extra-base hits has he had over that span? It's gotta be at least half.

[AppGuy04]

How many extra-base hits has he had over that span? It's gotta be at least half.

actually, counting the double today, only 4, the other 3? all homerunsxthumbsupx

[AppGuy04]

End of 1, 1-0 Brewers

[AppGuy04]

0-6 since Soriano double

[AppGuy04]

Tony Graffanino fouls a pitch off his face

then hits a homerun 3 pitches later

2-0 Brewers

[douglasdmb]

actually, counting the double today, only 4, the other 3? all homerunsxthumbsupx

So...7 of the 11 have been extra-base hits?

[AppGuy04]

So...7 of the 11 have been extra-base hits?

no, 7 of the 11 are singles

[AppGuy04]

another solo shot, 3-0 Brewers

[AppGuy04]

End of 2, 3-0 Brewers

[douglasdmb]

Didn't he hit a triple the other day?

[AppGuy04]

Didn't he hit a triple the other day?

my bad, he did, so 5 of the 11 are extra base hits, 3 hr's, 1 double, 1 triple

[AppGuy04]

still only 1 hit after 3 innings

[AppGuy04]

Mench doubles in Fielder, 4-0 Brewers

[AppGuy04]

RBI single for Damien Miller, 5-0

[AppGuy04]

finally, Pie gets a single

[AppGuy04]

Walk to Derrek Lee, 2 on, 0 outs

[AppGuy04]

Ramirez just misses a 3 run jack

[AppGuy04]

Cliff Floyd singles in Pie, 5-1

still 2 on, 1 out

[AppGuy04]

bases loaded, 2 outs, Izturis up to bat

[AppGuy04]

Izturis flies out to right, 5-1 after 3 1/2

[AppGuy04]

Lilly goes 1,2,3 for the first time in the game

5-1 Brewers after 4

[AppGuy04]

ANOTHER solo shot by the Brewers, 6-1 now

God Damnit! Get Lilly out of there

[AppGuy04]

Cliff Floyd solo shot, 6-2

[AppGuy04]

Theriot doubles in Barrett, 6-3 now

[AppGuy04]

6-3 after 6

[AppGuy04]

7-3 Brewers after 7

[AppGuy04]

Aramis leads off the 8th with a walk

[AppGuy04]

sacks packed, 1 out

Matt Murton pinch hitting for Izturis

[AppGuy04]

Murton strikes out

[AppGuy04]

DeRosa batting for the pitcher

[AppGuy04]

DeRosa drives in 2, 7-5, still 2 on, 2 out

[AppGuy04]

Soriano coming up

Brewers bringing in Cordero, their closer

[AppGuy04]

Damnit! Soriano strikes out

[AppGuy04]

Soriano gets on with 2 outs in the 9th

[AppGuy04]

Brewers wins 7-5

[AppGuy04]

Today:

CHC: C. Zambrano (5-5, 5.62)
MIL: J. Suppan (7-5, 3.71)

We need this one, would be nice to take a series and gain a game on the Brewers

[bodoyle]

Preface: Die hard Chicago White Sox fan.

app, I almost feel bad for you being a scrub fan.

Do you really expect them to be a good team? It doesn't matter if they have a $40 million dollar payroll or a $400 million payroll. They are jinxed/cursed.

My poor, unfortunate father is a fan suchas yourself. He said he can't die until they win a world series. While 2003 had my mom worried that dad was going to kick the bucket, he is in good health. xnodx I've told him multiple times that he will be the oldest living person in the world (60 years old presently). He called me last night and said he is starting to agree with me.

[AppGuy04]

Preface: Die hard Chicago White Sox fan.

app, I almost feel bad for you being a scrub fan.

Do you really expect them to be a good team? It doesn't matter if they have a $40 million dollar payroll or a $400 million payroll. They are jinxed/cursed.

My poor, unfortunate father is a fan suchas yourself. He said he can't die until they win a world series. While 2003 had my mom worried that dad was going to kick the bucket, he is in good health. xnodx I've told him multiple times that he will be the oldest living person in the world (60 years old presently). He called me last night and said he is starting to agree with me.
Tis the life of a true fan, through good and bad. Can't change who I root for, cause being a bandwagon fan is the worst kind.

and part of me knows this team has the talent, both offense and pitching, to be one of the best teams in the NL

[AppGuy04]

Aramis scores on JJ Hardy error, 1-0 Cubs in the 1st

[AppGuy04]

Pie 3 run homer in the 2nd, 4-0 Cubs

This kid is gonna be good. Juan Pierre that can actually hit, and hit with power

[bodoyle]

Tis the life of a true fan, through good and bad. Can't change who I root for, cause being a bandwagon fan is the worst kind.

and part of me knows this team has the talent, both offense and pitching, to be one of the best teams in the NL

Oh they have the talent, but once that jersey is put on the jinx kicks in. xnodx

P.S. How far are you from Garner, NC?

[AppGuy04]

Oh they have the talent, but once that jersey is put on the jinx kicks in. xnodx

I don't believe in that crap, but I'm sure it does get in the heads of the players

[AppGuy04]

P.S. How far are you from Garner, NC?

25 mins roughly

[AppGuy04]

End of 2, 4-0 Cubs

JJ Hardy has committed 2 errors

[AppGuy04]

Zambrano singles in Theriot to help his own cause, 5-0 Cubs

He's 2-2 on the day and batting .280 on the season, better than all Cubs regular players other than Soriano or Derrek Lee

[AppGuy04]

5-0 Cubs after 3

[AppGuy04]

Zambrano gives up his first hit in the 4th

[AppGuy04]

5-0 after 5

[AppGuy04]

2 run HR by Prince Fielder, now the major league leader

5-2 Cubs

[AppGuy04]

End of 6, 5-2 Cubs

[AppGuy04]

Zambrano done after 6.2

His line
2 ER, 5 Hits, 3 BB, 9 K

One of his better outings lately. This is what we need from him

[AppGuy04]

5-2 Cubs after 8

[AppGuy04]

Cubs score another in the 9th, making is 6-2, so Dempster doesn't get the save, but does pitch a scorelsss 9th

[AppGuy04]

I wondered why the Cubs shuffled the infield after the 1st inning, now we know
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Aseu8UitxzrT3pf3EzYWD_ERvLYF?slug=ap-cubs-ramirez&prov=ap&type=lgns

[PantherRob82]

I wondered why the Cubs shuffled the infield after the 1st inning, now we know
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Aseu8UitxzrT3pf3EzYWD_ERvLYF?slug=ap-cubs-ramirez&prov=ap&type=lgns

oh great. xsmhx

[AppGuy04]

oh great. xsmhx

yeah really, we win a series and now this

[AppGuy04]

CHC: R. Hill (4-4, 2.89)
ATL: C. James (5-4, 3.78) 7:35pm ET

The Cubs have confirmed that Ramirez will be out atleast 2-3 games

[PantherRob82]

I want more day games. Cubs games pre-empt fox sports radio, and i'm tired of listening to ron and pat talk about the cubs losing.

[AppGuy04]

Soriano leads off with a triple, Pie singles him in, 1-0 Cubs

These two have the ability to be dynamite at the top of the lineup

[AppGuy04]

Soriano singles in Theriot, 2-0 Cubs

Already 5 hits in the first 2 innings

[AppGuy04]

Andruw Jones leads off the 2nd with a solo homer

2-1 Cubs

[AppGuy04]

End of 2, 2-1 Cubs

[AppGuy04]

1,2,3, no hits for the Cubs in the 3rd

[AppGuy04]

End of 3, still 2-1

[AppGuy04]

Same result for the Cubs in the 4th

[AppGuy04]

After 4, Andruw Jones has the Braves only 2 hits, raising his average to a healthy .226xlolx xlolx xlolx

[AppGuy04]

End of 5, still 2-1 Cubs

No hits for either team in the 5th

[AppGuy04]

Matt Murton singles with 1 out in the 6th, the Cubs first hit since the 2nd inning

[AppGuy04]

Well, this sure has become a boring game since the 2nd, only 1 hit for each team since the 2nd

still 2-1 Cubs after 6

[AppGuy04]

End of 7, still 2-1

[AppGuy04]

Cubs get only 1 hit after the 2nd inning but hold on for a 2-1 win

Rich Hill pitches 8 innings, giving up only 3 hits, 1 run, and 11 K's. Ryan Dempster with a 1,2,3 9th and the save

[AppGuy04]

Cubs now 6 games back of Idle Milwaukee

2 wins in a row and 4 of the last 5, lets hope this is the start of something

Zambrano and Hill pitch back to back good games. Thats what the Cubs need to win

[whitey]

Dear Cubs,

Thanks!

Signed,
Mets Fan Watching His Team Suck (again)

[AppGuy04]

CHC: S. Marshall (1-2, 2.25)
ATL: L. Cormier (0-1, 18.00)
7:35pm ET

Marshall hasn't given up more than 2 ER in any start this year, including his last start which happened to be against the Braves. He went 6.2 innings, giving up only 1 ER, while striking out 8. Lets make it 3 in a row and 5 of the last 6

[MYTAPPY]

CHC: S. Marshall (1-2, 2.25)
ATL: L. Cormier (0-1, 18.00)
7:35pm ET

Marshall hasn't given up more than 2 ER in any start this year, including his last start which happened to be against the Braves. He went 6.2 innings, giving up only 1 ER, while striking out 8. Lets make it 3 in a row and 5 of the last 6

I'm going to go ahead and give you Cubbies the win tonight. Cormier is HORRIBLE. I'm writing this one off. xoopsx

[MYTAPPY]

Dear Cubs,

Thanks!

Signed,
Mets Fan Watching His Team Suck (again)

Dear Mets,

Thanks for losing and keeping us withing strinking distance again.

[AppGuy04]

I'm going to go ahead and give you Cubbies the win tonight. Cormier is HORRIBLE. I'm writing this one off. xoopsx

Why is he starting anyways? Did someone get hurt?

[MYTAPPY]

Why is he starting anyways? Did someone get hurt?

No, we just don't have anybody that is better.

[AppGuy04]

No, we just don't have anybody that is better.

Hell, bring a kid up from Richmond, like this kid:http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Buddy%2520Carlyle&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=234194

[AppGuy04]

Soriano is a GOD!

3 HR's last night in a 9-1 romp of the Braves

3 wins in a row and 5 of the last 6

[AppGuy04]

Today's pitching matchup:

CHC: J. Marquis (5-2, 2.84)
ATL: T. Hudson (6-4, 3.09)

[GeauxColonels]

Let's just keep it going!

[PantherRob82]

Man,Soriano was on fire. That got me excited when I saw that this morning. Now if the team would pick up the pace.

[AppGuy04]

Damnit Dempster!

[AppGuy04]

Meltdown last night by Dempster really hurts. Cubs now 6 games back of the Brewers starting this week. One game with Houston tonight, then 3 game set with Seattle, all at home.

Tonight's matchup:
HOU: W. Williams (2-8, 5.79)
CHC: C. Zambrano (6-5, 5.38)

[mcveyrl]

Damnit Dempster!

I went to bed going into the 8th 'cause I thought it was over...

[mcveyrl]

Meltdown last night by Dempster really hurts. Cubs now 6 games back of the Brewers starting this week. One game with Houston tonight, then 3 game set with Seattle, all at home.

Tonight's matchup:
HOU: W. Williams (2-8, 5.79)
CHC: C. Zambrano (6-5, 5.38)

So, knowing that Zambrano's going to get stretched for as many innings as possible with the tired 'pen, should I start Zambrano on my fantasy team??

[AppGuy04]

So, knowing that Zambrano's going to get stretched for as many innings as possible with the tired 'pen, should I start Zambrano on my fantasy team??

haha, the question of the day

he has been good, bad, good, bad, good, bad in his last 6 starts

all I know is that he is costing himself money, and he better start getting things right if he wants to get paid

[AppGuy04]

Theriot RBI single has the Cubs up 1-0 after 2

[AppGuy04]

Zambrano helps his own cause and homers to left, 2-0 Cubs

Zambrano now batting .321 on the year, damn good for a pitcher

[mcveyrl]

Zambrano helps his own cause and homers to left, 2-0 Cubs

Zambrano now batting .321 on the year, damn good for a pitcher

Wow. I did start him. Too bad I don't get credits for his offensive stats!!

[AppGuy04]

2-1 Cubs win, they are looking like a much better team these days

[AppGuy04]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2901214
Aramis Ramirez placed on the DL to make room for Cliff Floyd from bereavement list

[AppGuy04]

3 game set with Seattle starts today

SEA: J. Washburn (5-5, 3.94)
CHC: R. Hill (5-4, 2.71)

Ichiro has been hot lately. Washburn is coming off 2 bad starts in a row, raising his ERA almost .75

Rich Hill on the other hand, has allowed only 2 ER in his last 3 starts, 2 of which were ND which the Cubs lost after he left

[AppGuy04]

Oh yeah, Cubs lead off the game with a walk, and 2 base hits, 2-0 Cubs

[AppGuy04]

2-0 Cubs after the 1st, everyone bats except the pitcher

[AppGuy04]

2-2 after 3

[AppGuy04]

3-2 Mariners after 4