#1 NDSU @ #3 SDSU (Battle for the Dakota Marker 2019)

[Herdistheword]

Between the holding on Tuszka and the obvious intentional grounding, I am not liking the refs so far. However, we need our offense to be a bit more disciplined.

[Herdistheword]

Also, the Jackrabbits are running well.

[Thumper 76]

Chattown, is that you? xdrunkyx

I was actually leaning JBB


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[centennial]

Poor showing by NDSU even with the refs. Got to show up. Only good thing is that they are only 3 points down.

[Kemo]

Intense game so far considering it's 6-3 at half. 1 big play in the second half could decide this one. Can Nelson do it or does J'Bore come out of the locker room wearing his Superman cape?

[Lorne_Malvo]

Intense game so far considering it's 6-3 at half. 1 big play in the second half could decide this one. Can Nelson do it or does J'Bore come out of the locker room wearing his Superman cape?

I watched the play where he got hurt like 10 times and I still cant figured out what happened to him. I hope he is able to play the second half.

[Bison56]

Looks like he is out for the game, has brace on. Too bad hope it isnt season ending. Still cant tell what happened on the replay.

[X-Factor]

JBore out for the game. That sucks to see a starting QB go down

[Preferred Walk-On]

Intense game so far considering it's 6-3 at half. 1 big play in the second half could decide this one. Can Nelson do it or does J'Bore come out of the locker room wearing his Superman cape?

Unfortunately, the Superman cape is disguised as cling wrap and ice around the knee. Hopefully it ends up being something minor, and he can return this season. Hate to see this happen.


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[Bison56]

I guess all NDSU has is a QB run.

[POD Knows]

****ing QB runs. Give me a break.

[Bison56]

****ing QB runs. Give me a break.

19 times so far. Cant win if you play scared.

[POD Knows]

19 times so far. Cant win if you play scared.
No clue what they are trying to do. But it isn’t working

[Bison56]

No clue what they are trying to do. But it isn’t working

Reminds me of trying to run the jet sweep a few years ago over and over with no success.

[X-Factor]

I guess all NDSU has is a QB run.

It’s been a terrible game plan by Roehl. Phil Hanson dating the same thing

[centennial]

It’s been a terrible game plan by Roehl. Phil Hanson dating the same thing

I know the backup is okay but it's really taking a chance for no reason. Roehl has a lot of growing up to do as an OC.

[Bison56]

Brooks has been running g hard when he gets it and it paid off.

[dewey]

Touchdown Ty Brooks!

10-6 Bison!

59 yard touchdown run.

The amount of QB runs is alarming.

Dewey

[JacksFan40]

SDSU fumbles and I’m not liking how this is going.

[Herdistheword]

It only took 20 QB runs, but by god, we finally set it up for the run that we wanted.

[Bison56]

That's 22 carries for Lance I believe. Ridiculous penalty again.

[dewey]

Strip sack by Waege and recovered by Biegler.

1st down Bison at the 10.

Bison with a 2nd down run to the 4 but a 15 yard penalty.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

Absolute bull**** unsportsman like penalty. **** you zebras

[dewey]

1st and goal from the 8.

Dewey

[Herdistheword]

Did Rozenboom just dick punch Cofield?

[Tazman2664]

How quickly the game has turned. Some where here saying SDSU was dominating, but they were only up 6-3. The thing is this, since joining the FCS in 2004, versus SDSU, NDSU is 7-0 when gaining over 170 yards rushing and 2-5 when under 170 yards. They are now over that. And for the strategy, they will continue to run the QB because when the RBs run it they are getting big yards. It is a strategy that is working just fine.

[dewey]

Touchdown Bison!

16-6 Bison 557 to go 3rd quarter.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

WTf are the doing going for two.

[Bison56]

WTf are the doing going for two.

No idea, a ton of head scratching calls today.

[BisonBacker]

WTf are the doing going for two.
Absolutely a stupid ****ing call by the coach. You can go up by 11 and you **** it up with that stupid call. He better learn in a hurry you don't do that ****. It's going to come back to haunt him at some point!

[Bison56]

A lot of game left.

[WeAreThePride]

WTF. Kick the point!

[POD Knows]

Absolutely a stupid ****ing call by the coach. You can go up by 11 and you **** it up with that stupid call. He better learn in a hurry you don't do that ****. It's going to come back to haunt him at some point!
Aside from how boneheaded it was the actual play had no chance of success

[Bison56]

Strong is a heck of a back, no idea why they just dont keep giving him the ball?

[X-Factor]

Wow. Another missed holding call on the Jacks causing that long run

[Herdistheword]

Strong is a heck of a back, no idea why they just dont keep giving him the ball?

Shhhhh.....

[BisonBacker]

Nice false start on that last play

[Herdistheword]

Strong with an Anderson like stiff arm.

[BisonBacker]

Should be an 8 point game right now.

[BisonBacker]

We need one of those long clock eating drives now that results in a TD for the Bison!

[POD Knows]

We have no answer for Strong. I would keep giving him the rock.

[Bison56]

Should be an 8 point game right now.

Yep going for 2 was unnecessary and stupid heavy on the stupid.

[JacksFan40]

We can’t maintain a drive. Been getting good drives going and they just stall and end with a FG.

[Thumper 76]

We can’t maintain a drive. Been getting good drives going and they just stall and end with a FG.

This will happen all day as long as we have Nelson playing. He can’t cut it right now.

[Herdistheword]

We can’t maintain a drive. Been getting good drives going and they just stall and end with a FG.

Ya’ll are doing just enough to keep the anxiety level up on us Bison fans.

[BisonBacker]

I don't know what the fans were booing about that was a good PI call.

[BisonBacker]

Lance's long ball needs some work that should have been 6

[Bisonoline]

Why do we keep trying to throw the homerun ball?
Just move the ball down the field.

[BisonBacker]

Another bad throw by Lance xeyebrowx

[JacksFan40]

I don't know what the fans were booing about that was a good PI call.
I didn’t think there was enough contact but I can understand why they threw it.

[POD Knows]

Horse**** ****ing holding call stops another drive.

[JacksFan40]

This will happen all day as long as we have Nelson playing. He can’t cut it right now.
Really sucks how Gibbs has struggled to stay healthy this season.

[BisonBacker]

Why do we keep trying to throw the homerun ball?
Just move the ball down the field.
Tyler like Entz has some learning to do.

[Herdistheword]

Trey may need to start making those throws. He has been off today.

[BisonBacker]

Horse**** ****ing holding call stops another drive.

It was more than a weak call

[BisonBacker]

Bridges has had a rough year.

[Bison56]

1 play away from a tie game.

[Thumper 76]

Horse**** ****ing holding call stops another drive.

Lol he wrapped him up

[Bison56]

Ticky tack on some of these PI calls.

[Thumper 76]

Ticky tack on some of these PI calls.

Yep. I don’t like it

[Herdistheword]

You could have argued offensive PI there too. A lot of hand fighting.

[BisonBacker]

Lol he wrapped him up

Lol you don't know what "wrapping up" means then. It was ****ing weak. These ref's must think this is a nationally televised game and tv time.

[BisonBacker]

Nice ****ing call Entz. He better get plenty of **** this week from that stupid 2 point call. Tie game now.

[Bison56]

Cannot stop the run.

[Thumper 76]

Lol you don't know what "wrapping up" means then. It was ****ing weak. These ref's must think this is a nationally televised game and tv time.

xlolx off to the side w your arm wrapped around the throat ISNT a hold eh

[Herdistheword]

Jacks have our number in the run game.

[Bison56]

Get ready for a big dose of QB runs.

[dewey]

Terrible containment by the defensive end on that TD run.

Ran right by the quarterback.

Tied at 16 midway 4th quarter.

Dewey

[BisonBacker]

Lets see if Tyler can try 3 long bombs instead of running it down their throats.

[Bison56]

Wtf was that garbage.xeyebrowx

[BisonBacker]

JFC Tyler how ****ing stupid are you?

[BisonBacker]

If the Bison lose this its on the coaches

[POD Knows]

speechless

[Bison56]

OC is out coaching himself today.

[dewey]

Stupid jump pass on 3rd and 2?

WTF coaches.

Dewey

[X-Factor]

Wow Roehl....you’ve got a ways to go as an OC

[Gil Dobie]

Trying to be too fancy, get back to basic Bison football.

[Herdistheword]

With the exception of two plays in the 3rd Quarter, SDSU has been winning this fame. Our coaches need to look themselves in the mirror and figure out a better game plan.

[Schism55]

Young team, young coaching staff REALLY showing today xconfusedx

[JacksFan40]

Well that’s how you screw up a golden opportunity.

[deez_na]

Pick!!!

[skinny_uncle]

Sounds like a dandy game with first place on the line.

[BisonBacker]

Go for it.

[Thumper 76]

****ing false starts gunna cost the game

[BisonBacker]

Wow

[deez_na]

Golden!

[JacksFan40]

I’d be lying if I said I didn’t see that coming.

[Thumper 76]

****ing false starts gunna cost the game

I’m a ****ing wizard

[Bison56]

Grew a pair

[Schism55]

Fortune favors the bold!!!!!
Holy ****!!!

[dewey]

Great call to go for it.

Touchdown Cofield.

23-6 Bison.

232 to go 4th quarter.

Dewey

[BisonBacker]

There's still 2+ minutes on the clock

[Thumper 76]

There's still 2+ minutes on the clock

xlolx w our 3rd string qb?

[BisonBacker]

Strong must be getting tired

[JacksFan40]

xlolx w our 3rd string qb?
We could have Tom Brady back there and it wouldn’t matter, we’d still lose.

[BisonBacker]

That should be Bison ball

[Thumper 76]

We could have Tom Brady back there and it wouldn’t matter, we’d still lose.

If we had a passing game this is a different game IMO. Doesn’t help our tackles are getting worked.

[Bison56]

I believe that's a turnover.

[POD Knows]

That is a ****ing fumble. ****ing **********s.

[BisonBacker]

That is a ****ing fumble. ****ing **********s.

Absolutely it was but the ref's screwed up plenty of other calls in this game why would we expect them to get that right?

[Herdistheword]

Tuszka dominated that last drive.

[Christiank22]

Ball don’t lie. SDSU is still little brother. Everything is right in the world.

Close games suck and I hate SDSU more than ever.

[JacksFan40]

How many big games will SDSU constantly lose? Can never win a game that’s worth a damn.

[BisonBacker]

Game over!

[Gil Dobie]

Good game Jacks.

[BisonBacker]

The marker goes home where it belongs!

[Bison56]

Good game

[BisonBacker]

Good game Jacks.

Given they lost their first two QB's yeah. Our coaches better pull their heads out of their A S S before they lose a game like this because of stupid play calling!

[mmiller_34]

See you in the playoffs Bizzzzon. Good game.

[Herdistheword]

How many big games will SDSU constantly lose? Can never win a game that’s worth a damn.

Look on the bright side, you aren’t Misery State.

[cx500d]

Nail biter to the end...


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[NDB]

https://youtu.be/EETGwAYoHgU

[TennBison]

See you in the playoffs Bizzzzon. Good game.
All things considered, it was a darn good game by SDSU.

[JacksFan40]

See you in the playoffs Bizzzzon. Good game.
Swear to God if we end up in Fargo I’ll be done watching FCS football.

[NDB]

See you in the playoffs Bizzzzon. Good game.

Are you coming up to the FargoDome after the bunnies choke again?

[BisonBacker]

Swear to God if we end up in Fargo I’ll be done watching FCS football.
xlolx

[Drblankstare]

There’s a good chance you might have seen the best version of the FCS championship today. It’s hard to think what will top that.

Obviously JMU will probably have something to say about that

[TILIS-BisonFan]

Not a lot of faith by your local TV Sdsu.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191026/a339211df42efdca795df5d93d1938f2.jpg

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[AmsterBison]

That's two sloppy, sloppy games in a row. Yikes.

Defense was playing on its heels and looked confused but, man, once they can pin their ears back, they a rocket-propelled brute squad.

[Thumper 76]

Well, congrats to ndsu. Couple things. A) that was a fumble but it didn’t matter because our qbs were poor and our OTs got worked harder than a $2 whore. B) there were some poor calls but nobody thinks the refs are against them more than ndsu fans. Anywhere xlolx

All that said, enjoy the win and the rest of the season. I spose we’ll prolly see ya in the quarters.

Swear to God if we end up in Fargo I’ll be done watching FCS football.

Well just tune out now chief.

[mvfcfan]

This was a great game. Would've been better if Gibbs wouldn't have been injured in the beginning. This also does little for me for the rest of the season.

NDSU doesn't have to go on the road in the playoffs now. They'll probably beat SDSU again in the semifinals. NDSU will repeat. Yawn...

[Herdistheword]

Well, congrats to ndsu. Couple things. A) that was a fumble but it didn’t matter because our qbs were poor and our OTs got worked harder than a $2 whore. B) there were some poor calls but nobody thinks the refs are against them more than ndsu fans. Anywhere xlolx

All that said, enjoy the win and the rest of the season. I spose we’ll prolly see ya in the quarters.


Well just tune out now chief.

Refs weren’t against us, but they sure did not like calling holding penalties. The fumble was a hard call on the field. It looked like he was down, but replay showed it was likely stripped before hand. I understand why the play stood though. The ball being pinned against the QB makes it a hard call to overturn.

[BisonBacker]

Not a lot of faith by your local TV Sdsu.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191026/a339211df42efdca795df5d93d1938f2.jpg

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xlolx

[Christiank22]

There’s a good chance you might have seen the best version of the FCS championship today. It’s hard to think what will top that.

Obviously JMU will probably have something to say about that

SDSU is better than JMU. No doubt in my mind

[semobison]

This was a street fight. Gibbs injury was tough for the Jacks. I don't think Cade Johnson had a catch after he went out.

[X-Factor]

See you in the playoffs Bizzzzon. Good game.

Yes, see you in the Fargodome

[gregatim]

This was a street fight. Gibbs injury was tough for the Jacks. I don't think Cade Johnson had a catch after he went out.

At least one on a slant.

[gregatim]

Well, congrats to ndsu. Couple things. A) that was a fumble but it didn’t matter because our qbs were poor and our OTs got worked harder than a $2 whore. B) there were some poor calls but nobody thinks the refs are against them more than ndsu fans. Anywhere xlolx

All that said, enjoy the win and the rest of the season. I spose we’ll prolly see ya in the quarters.


Well just tune out now chief.

Good game Jacks! More importantly, I hope your dad is doing well and on the mend Thumper!

[mmiller_34]

More importantly. USD is getting killed at halftime

[Tazman2664]

SDSU were gamers. They played pretty well. Things turned on the fumble recovery after NDSU scored their first touchdown. But SDSU came back to tie it. I did not get to see it but just how in the world, on a 4th and inches do you give up a 70 year touchdown? That stance will haunt SDSU for the rest of the season. Sure, I'd say NDSU makes the first down on 4th and inches but a 70 yard TD? The coaches really need to review their game preparation after that. Either the coaches were not prepared or the players were not.

[mmiller_34]

SDSU were gamers. They played pretty well. Things turned on the fumble recovery after NDSU scored their first touchdown. But SDSU came back to tie it. I did not get to see it but just how in the world, on a 4th and inches do you give up a 70 year touchdown? That stance will haunt SDSU for the rest of the season. Sure, I'd say NDSU makes the first down on 4th and inches but a 70 yard TD? The coaches really need to review their game preparation after that. Either the coaches were not prepared or the players were not.

Big gains like that have a tendency to happen in those situations. We did it to you guys in ‘07, again to UND in ‘13, and you guys did it to us today. When the whole defense pinches to stop inside and the play bumps to the C-D gaps — look out!

[Herdistheword]

The SDSU run game is good. You gave us fits all night long.

[Thumper 76]

Good game Jacks! More importantly, I hope your dad is doing well and on the mend Thumper!

Thank you, he very much is!


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[TennBison]

SDSU were gamers. They played pretty well. Things turned on the fumble recovery after NDSU scored their first touchdown. But SDSU came back to tie it. I did not get to see it but just how in the world, on a 4th and inches do you give up a 70 year touchdown? That stance will haunt SDSU for the rest of the season. Sure, I'd say NDSU makes the first down on 4th and inches but a 70 yard TD? The coaches really need to review their game preparation after that. Either the coaches were not prepared or the players were not.
Very easy to score a long TD on a short and inches like that. The defense is looking for a run, nothing fancy, QB sneak or power run, nothing that runs outside, up the middle. And the defense will usually stack the box with 6-7 on the line and 5-4 to fill gaps and shoot the gaps. Once a runner gets into the secondary, great chance of being gone unless they are a slower fullback.

[IBleedYellow]

Can we have no more sloppy games from here on out

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[Drblankstare]

If the season ended today SDSU should be the 3 seed. The problem is... UNI AND ILL ST. it would not shock me they lost one or both especially because of the current QB situation for them. It’s going to be a tricky bit for the Jacks coming up

[Thumper 76]

If the season ended today SDSU should be the 3 seed. The problem is... UNI AND ILL ST. it would not shock me they lost one or both especially because of the current QB situation for them. It’s going to be a tricky bit for the Jacks coming up

We’ll be at ndsu in the quarters. Bet the farm on it.


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[NDSU1980]

If the season ended today SDSU should be the 3 seed. The problem is... UNI AND ILL ST. it would not shock me they lost one or both especially because of the current QB situation for them. It’s going to be a tricky bit for the Jacks coming up


Jacks will lose just enough games coming up to end up a #4 seed and wind up in Fargo. Not hard to see it coming

[Drblankstare]

We’ll be at ndsu in the quarters. Bet the farm on it.


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im not a bright man, but I’m smart enough to know, that somewhere deep in my soul. Your right... and that sucks

[Thumper 76]

im not a bright man, but I’m smart enough to know, that somewhere deep in my soul. Your right... and that sucks

I’m not sure why ndsu fans hate it. I would love being able to end your season every year if it worked out that way.


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[Drblankstare]

Also, all Bison fans, please retire the word “sloppy” when to referring to the defensive tackling. The SDSU O line straight up owned the Bison D for a majority of the game. I hate when we can’t own up to our shortcomings. We got beat most of the game and still won. That’s the truth

[Drblankstare]

I’m not sure why ndsu fans hate it. I would love being able to end your season every year if it worked out that way.


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Your not wrong, that’s how I felt for a long while, until I realized that SDSU is really the only team/program that understands what it takes to beat NDSU. I want the Jacks in Frisco, their is some real Eastern Mysticism to it. Maybe if both Dakota’s come together in Texas, we can trigger the singularity.

[Drblankstare]

Maybe I should go easy on the bourbon rocks. Lol

[Bison56]

Too bad SDSU doesnt get a crowd like that every game.

[mmiller_34]

Too bad SDSU doesnt get a crowd like that every game.

https://media.tenor.com/images/0cd0016f10c1012a2c63c01e7123502d/tenor.gif

We’ll have 8k for Illinois State.

[Green1]

I’m not sure why ndsu fans hate it. I would love being able to end your season every year if it worked out that way.




Actually, this is oddly reassuring.

[Thumper 76]

https://media.tenor.com/images/0cd0016f10c1012a2c63c01e7123502d/tenor.gif

We’ll have 8k for Illinois State.

*if the weather is decent*

[mmiller_34]

Despite the loss, even tho it sucked, today was a lot of fun.

— Check that — this week was a lot of fun.

[IBleedYellow]

I’m not sure why ndsu fans hate it. I would love being able to end your season every year if it worked out that way.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkBecause it would be way more fun to end your season winning a National Title.

And Frisco with both fanbases would be heaven. Seriously.

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[IBleedYellow]

Despite the loss, even tho it sucked, today was a lot of fun.

— Check that — this week was a lot of fun.Y'all showed up. It was amazing.



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[IBleedYellow]

Too bad SDSU doesnt get a crowd like that every game.Seriously


That team deserves that type of atmosphere.

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[tjamz]

We’ll be at ndsu in the quarters. Bet the farm on it.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCan I bet your farm instead? I just bought mine.

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[POD Knows]

Because it would be way more fun to end your season winning a National Title.

And Frisco with both fanbases would be heaven. Seriously.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using TapatalkScrew this noise, why do you wish success upon your closest rival and closet recruiting rival. I hope they lose every game for the remainder of the year. SDSU, it isn't personal, it is business, well, maybe a little personal but you get my drift.

[Professor Chaos]

Why do we keep trying to throw the homerun ball?
Just move the ball down the field.
This is really starting to irritate me. Seems like there's nothing between the home run ball and the QB run. Lance hasn't been able to get in a rhythm the last few games becuae they aren't giving him a chance to throw himself into a rhythm. I'd like to see then call some more short ti intermediate high percentage throws to allow him to get a little more comfortable throwing the ball. He is just a freshman, they need to help him out a bit and they have TEs and WRs that can win 1-on-1 matchups.

[Bisonoline]

Maybe I should go easy on the bourbon rocks. Lol

You were not that far off. xthumbsupx

[Professor Chaos]

SDSU were gamers. They played pretty well. Things turned on the fumble recovery after NDSU scored their first touchdown. But SDSU came back to tie it. I did not get to see it but just how in the world, on a 4th and inches do you give up a 70 year touchdown? That stance will haunt SDSU for the rest of the season. Sure, I'd say NDSU makes the first down on 4th and inches but a 70 yard TD? The coaches really need to review their game preparation after that. Either the coaches were not prepared or the players were not.
Pretty simple, they were in goal line defense which is a bad defense to be in if the running back breaks the LOS. Obviously that doesn't matter when you're backed up against your own goal line but it does when you're 70 yards away. Both teams took a gamble on that play. Bison rolled 7s... Jacks crapped out.

[Bisonoline]

This is really starting to irritate me. Seems like there's nothing between the home run ball and the QB run. Lance hasn't been able to get in a rhythm the last few games becuae they aren't giving him a chance to throw himself into a rhythm. I'd like to see then call some more short ti intermediate high percentage throws to allow him to get a little more comfortable throwing the ball. He is just a freshman, they need to help him out a bit and they have TEs and WRs that can win 1-on-1 matchups.

No flow to the game. Played way too much out of the gun. WTF is the matter with TR?? He forget where he came from? JFC he cant get away from the RO with TL calling his own number which is pretty predictable now. Its like they dont set future plays up anymore. Our running backs running up the back side of our lineman. WTF does that accomplish? Set back a step and let the play develop. If its not there bounce outside. Especially when they are selling out on the run. How about some miss direction???? What happened to the short and intermeadiate passes that you mentioned???? I could go on. Watching our O is frustrating.

[POD Knows]

This is really starting to irritate me. Seems like there's nothing between the home run ball and the QB run. Lance hasn't been able to get in a rhythm the last few games becuae they aren't giving him a chance to throw himself into a rhythm. I'd like to see then call some more short ti intermediate high percentage throws to allow him to get a little more comfortable throwing the ball. He is just a freshman, they need to help him out a bit and they have TEs and WRs that can win 1-on-1 matchups.100% freaking this, balls on

[Herder]

Trey may need to start making those throws. He has been off today.

He was consistently late on long throws. Sometimes short too, but consistently late.

[TennBison]

Can we have no more sloppy games from here on out

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I hereby propose that we ban the "sloppy game" from all of the future Bison football games. All in favor say I. All opposed......... go back to MSU or SDSU.

[Thumper 76]

When Gibbs went out I figured we were screwed, but when Lance fumbled and it bounced off the refs leg back to him, I knew it wasn’t our day. God I hate ****ing losing this game.

[Prime Power]

SDSU played a great game. If it wasn't for the officiatingand the injury to Gibbs they would have won. NDSU didn't deserve to win that game.

[Thumper 76]

Can I bet your farm instead? I just bought mine.

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Knock your socks off, my farm is pretty damn small though xlolx

[TheKingpin28]

Home and mentally/physically exhausted from the game. That was the best football game I have seen in person since GSU part 2. That run on 4th down has to be up there with the Fake Punt in Natty 1 as well as Brock Jensen's 4th and goal run/KSU drive. Hell of a game and bunny fans, I envy your stadium.

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[Thumper 76]

This is really starting to irritate me. Seems like there's nothing between the home run ball and the QB run. Lance hasn't been able to get in a rhythm the last few games becuae they aren't giving him a chance to throw himself into a rhythm. I'd like to see then call some more short ti intermediate high percentage throws to allow him to get a little more comfortable throwing the ball. He is just a freshman, they need to help him out a bit and they have TEs and WRs that can win 1-on-1 matchups.
That’s something interesting I noticed throughout the game. The passes he is asked to make lend themselves to boom or bust with a low probability of being picked off by a defender he doesn’t see over the middle. They tend to be long passes down the sidelines, and his passes are similar to TC in the way that if he’s off they don’t seem to be near where they can be intercepted. Smart play calling to a point by the ndsu coaches. I don’t think they don’t trust him, more they are trying to get the max reward for least risk and knowing their defense will do just fine if they punt instead of turn the ball over. I could be wrong though, I honestly thought we would win today and that didn’t exactly work out

Pretty simple, they were in goal line defense which is a bad defense to be in if the running back breaks the LOS. Obviously that doesn't matter when you're backed up against your own goal line but it does when you're 70 yards away. Both teams took a gamble on that play. Bison rolled 7s... Jacks crapped out.
Pretty much. It was the perfect play call by ndsu for the defense SDSU had up. SDSU sold out against a qb sneak/dive play and left just a single defender to kick out and it was off to the races. Game over.

SDSU played a great game. If it wasn't for the officiatingand the injury to Gibbs they would have won. NDSU didn't deserve to win that game.

I don’t think the officiating won the game at all for ndsu. Valley officials blow dick, but they tend to blow both ways. As for Gibbs, who knows how it turns out. As a Jacks fan who hates excuses I damn sure am not going to say we win if he plays the whole game, but it’s pretty damn tantalizing to wonder what would have happened if he plays the whole game so we have a passing threat. It might not have mattered because our RT was getting just abused by the DEs, but Gibbs is roughly 1000xs the qb Nelson is. Oh well, if ifs and buts we’re candies and nuts. Didn’t make the plays needed to win the game (like killing 4 drives with false ****ing starts). Bounces go for each team and you’ve got to overcome what’s presented to you. SDSU didn’t, again. It’s excruciating to be so damn close to great every year it feels like. Oh well, season isn’t over and the W’s that matter most happen after the regular season.

[Thumper 76]

Despite the loss, even tho it sucked, today was a lot of fun.

— Check that — this week was a lot of fun.
Worst great day ever?

Because it would be way more fun to end your season winning a National Title.

And Frisco with both fanbases would be heaven. Seriously.

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That would be a good damn time.

[Tazman2664]

Well, I see that some people are upset with play calling and reffing, etc. But I think this game was spot on. It was close and SDSU played well. But the message that was sent to other teams is, the QB is going to run the ball and you need to be prepared for that. The reason why the RBs had such big run plays, for TDs, was because they were focused on the QB runs. Going forward teams will really need to be honest with the QB running and the big running plays by the RBs. Defenses will have a very difficult time preparing for that. As for the officiating, I felt it was more in favor for SDSU. The first late hit, out of bounce, was a terrible call. He was strolling the side line so even if he takes just one step out it is not a late hit. And that set SDSU up but the only got a FG, so that was poor on them. The fumble that they said was pined between the QB and the tackler was bad. It does not matter that the ball was pined between the 2 of them, the QB did not have control of the ball so that means it is loose. I could go one but I saw more blown calls that should have gone against SDSU but didn't and ones that went against NDSU that should not have been. This game really sets up future opponents for trouble. I think NDSU would not have minded loosing this game because the game plan really sets up future opponents for some tough times ahead. If they get SDSU in the playoffs they will struggle with trying to figure out what NDSU is going to do. NDSU sent a message that they don't need to pass so when they do pass it will be troublesome. Some games are just played a certain way to send messages about what future games might be like and that creates more problems for those teams. I think this game really sets up the rest of the season well.

[Derby City Duke]

Well, I see that some people are upset with play calling and reffing, etc. But I think this game was spot on. It was close and SDSU played well. But the message that was sent to other teams is, the QB is going to run the ball and you need to be prepared for that. The reason why the RBs had such big run plays, for TDs, was because they were focused on the QB runs. Going forward teams will really need to be honest with the QB running and the big running plays by the RBs. Defenses will have a very difficult time preparing for that. As for the officiating, I felt it was more in favor for SDSU. The first late hit, out of bounce, was a terrible call. He was strolling the side line so even if he takes just one step out it is not a late hit. And that set SDSU up but the only got a FG, so that was poor on them. The fumble that they said was pined between the QB and the tackler was bad. It does not matter that the ball was pined between the 2 of them, the QB did not have control of the ball so that means it is loose. I could go one but I saw more blown calls that should have gone against SDSU but didn't and ones that went against NDSU that should not have been. This game really sets up future opponents for trouble. I think NDSU would not have minded loosing this game because the game plan really sets up future opponents for some tough times ahead. If they get SDSU in the playoffs they will struggle with trying to figure out what NDSU is going to do. NDSU sent a message that they don't need to pass so when they do pass it will be troublesome. Some games are just played a certain way to send messages about what future games might be like and that creates more problems for those teams. I think this game really sets up the rest of the season well.

Paragraphs are your friend.

Looking forward to watching this game sometime tomorrow.

I would still expect SDSU to not fall below the 3/4 seed line

Oh, and if he's only 1 step out of bounds and you hit him, it IS a late hit.

[Thumper 76]

Fun fact that was brought to my attention. Gibbs led all qbs for yards passing. He played for less than a quarter.

[NDB]

Because it would be way more fun to end your season winning a National Title.

And Frisco with both fanbases would be heaven. Seriously.

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So much this.

It would be like when your little brother visits you in the big city and you get to show the sites like he's a big boy.

[Bisonoline]

Because it would be way more fun to end your season winning a National Title.

And Frisco with both fanbases would be heaven. Seriously.

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AHHHHHHHH No

[Herdistheword]

Paragraphs are your friend.

Looking forward to watching this game sometime tomorrow.

I would still expect SDSU to not fall below the 3/4 seed line

Oh, and if he's only 1 step out of bounds and you hit him, it IS a late hit.

I think the point is that the guy was not conclusively going out of bounds. He was tiptoeing the line. It wasn’t quite the same as a QB running straight to the sideline.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

SDSU played a great game. If it wasn't for the officiatingand the injury to Gibbs they would have won. NDSU didn't deserve to win that game.


What game did you watch bud?

Refs didn't win it for NDSU. Your statement is totally bunk.


As for the game:

Went into the indoor practice facility. Very nice. Chatting with some SDSU fans before the game they said the stadium remodel was 65 million and the IPF was 30 million. Both are very nice. CAS was a piece of crap but Dykhouse Stadium is very nice and a premiere FCS facility. NDSU needs to get their down ASAP after looking at this one.

Tailgating was fun. Really spread out but fun to walk around.

Hats off to SDSU fans with Game Day. Lots of blue walking around. There were some Bison green/yellow but SDSU fans stepped up and made that a great showcase for FCS football. I even saw a Minot State flag flying there....xlolx


The biggest improvement that I've noticed in SDSU is their lines. Both OL and DL are improved significantly. The OL did a great job of run blocking and it showed. Strong is going to have a great career if the OL stays like that, talent wise. The Jacks RT had a lot of trouble against Tuska but most guys do. The Jacks DL is also very good. Stig said it right......they needed to get better in both lines to beat NDSU.

Overall, just a great game and atmosphere to be at. SDSU is not dropping in my poll one place. They are a top 3 team in the FCS and they will prove that the rest of the year.

The only thing that sucked was the 40 minutes getting out of the parking lots....:D

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

No flow to the game. Played way too much out of the gun. WTF is the matter with TR?? He forget where he came from? JFC he cant get away from the RO with TL calling his own number which is pretty predictable now. Its like they dont set future plays up anymore. Our running backs running up the back side of our lineman. WTF does that accomplish? Set back a step and let the play develop. If its not there bounce outside. Especially when they are selling out on the run. How about some miss direction???? What happened to the short and intermeadiate passes that you mentioned???? I could go on. Watching our O is frustrating.


This is only other post I'm going to comment on here.

The Bison need to run more out of the I formation with the FB in there. I hardly saw it yesterday and it worked fine when they did use it.

I'm tired of all the shotgun bull**it running. Get back to what we do. Teams are defending this too easily now. The FB can get a lead block and help spring the RB.....freaking go back to it....xmadx

Hopefully TR learns this.

And I agree with PC about the non existent middle range pass now. The home run crap is not that successful in the first place but to use it all the time is not smart.

[Professor Chaos]

That’s something interesting I noticed throughout the game. The passes he is asked to make lend themselves to boom or bust with a low probability of being picked off by a defender he doesn’t see over the middle. They tend to be long passes down the sidelines, and his passes are similar to TC in the way that if he’s off they don’t seem to be near where they can be intercepted. Smart play calling to a point by the ndsu coaches. I don’t think they don’t trust him, more they are trying to get the max reward for least risk and knowing their defense will do just fine if they punt instead of turn the ball over. I could be wrong though, I honestly thought we would win today and that didn’t exactly work out

Pretty much. It was the perfect play call by ndsu for the defense SDSU had up. SDSU sold out against a qb sneak/dive play and left just a single defender to kick out and it was off to the races. Game over.


I don’t think the officiating won the game at all for ndsu. Valley officials blow dick, but they tend to blow both ways. As for Gibbs, who knows how it turns out. As a Jacks fan who hates excuses I damn sure am not going to say we win if he plays the whole game, but it’s pretty damn tantalizing to wonder what would have happened if he plays the whole game so we have a passing threat. It might not have mattered because our RT was getting just abused by the DEs, but Gibbs is roughly 1000xs the qb Nelson is. Oh well, if ifs and buts we’re candies and nuts. Didn’t make the plays needed to win the game (like killing 4 drives with false ****ing starts). Bounces go for each team and you’ve got to overcome what’s presented to you. SDSU didn’t, again. It’s excruciating to be so damn close to great every year it feels like. Oh well, season isn’t over and the W’s that matter most happen after the regular season.
I think Lance still doesn't see the field very well. Even earlier in the season when he was putting up super efficient passing numbers he wasn't seeing wide open guys but it didn't matter because he was accurate throwing to his target. His accuracy has deteriorated over the last few but that's just as much a product of throwing a bunch a low percentage balls as anything IMO.

It's really too bad Gibbs got hurt. I'm sure the game would've played out differently had he played the whole game. The logical theory is a more balanced SDSU offense would've been a more effective one and tipped the scales SDSU's way in a tight game but I will give a tip of the hat homage to you-know-who "not so fast my friend". The SDSU O-line seemed much better at run blocking than pass blocking even in scenarios before their last drive when Tuszka dominated their RT and they didn't have to throw. Their O-line was wearing the Bison D-line down in the run game and I'm not sure that happens if Gibbs plays the whole game and they pass the ball more. So you can construct theories either way but it was too bad in any case that he got hurt on such a harmless looking play.

Hopefully he's back soon but if he's not I could see the Jacks taking a page out of the book of the 2015 Bison after Wentz got hurt. Going to a super run dominated offense behind a freshman QB seemed to galvanize the team that year especially the O-line and they were a much better team for it by the time Wentz came back... could be the same for SDSU if Gibbs comes back after missing a few weeks.

[Gil Dobie]

I still don't get the 2pt conversion that failed.

[POD Knows]

Paragraphs are your friend.

Looking forward to watching this game sometime tomorrow.

I would still expect SDSU to not fall below the 3/4 seed line

Oh, and if he's only 1 step out of bounds and you hit him, it IS a late hit.He stepped out of bounds and then back in and kept running and I don't believe there was a whistle, is that still a penalty? This is a real question.

[X-Factor]

Jensen's winning TD at Kansas State was on a second and goal.

I prefer GSU #2 as the appropriate comparison. 4th and G from the 3.

Great game by SDSU. I actually hope they get a 2nd crack at JMU. At this point too bad that game would most likely be in Harrisonburg. That could set up a heck of a title game. SDSUs defense is very young so they are going in the right direction

[Professor Chaos]

I still don't get the 2pt conversion that failed.
I didn't mind the decision. Wasn't a fan of the vanilla play call or execution. There's a big difference between an 11 and 12 point lead. 12 point lead requires 2 TDs whereas 11 only requires a TD (plus the 2pt) and a FG. With the way SDSU was running the ball I didn't think forcing them to convert a 2pt try would've been that much of a detriment. But the play call left something to be desired. If they're going to be unorthodox and keep trying for 2pts in the middle of games they should probably come up with some plays other than a wildcat dive.

[POD Knows]

SDSU played a great game. If it wasn't for the officiatingand the injury to Gibbs they would have won. NDSU didn't deserve to win that game.
Purple???

[POD Knows]

I think the point is that the guy was not conclusively going out of bounds. He was tiptoeing the line. It wasn’t quite the same as a QB running straight to the sideline.This, you play to the whistle, it is the officials job to blow the whistle when the guy steps out of bounds. How many plays have you seen where a guy steps out of bounds, no whistle, he then keeps running and a guy clocks him, it is not the players job to monitor that. It was a pretty close call on that penalty but it gets to be a pretty gray area on the sideline when their is no whistle.

[POD Knows]

Home and mentally/physically exhausted from the game. That was the best football game I have seen in person since GSU part 2. That run on 4th down has to be up there with the Fake Punt in Natty 1 as well as Brock Jensen's 4th and goal run/KSU drive. Hell of a game and bunny fans, I envy your stadium.

Sent from my SM-J727V using TapatalkYou going to envy that stadium in December in Fargo, don't think so but it is pretty nice. They did a great job with the IPF and the stadium.

[Professor Chaos]

I prefer GSU #2 as the appropriate comparison. 4th and G from the 3.

Great game by SDSU. I actually hope they get a 2nd crack at JMU. At this point too bad that game would most likely be in Harrisonburg. That could set up a heck of a title game. SDSUs defense is very young so they are going in the right direction
The GSU play was similar in the fact that they needed to get it and got it but the coach's decision in this case was so much more ballsy. Had SDSU stopped them Entz would be getting crucified today for making that decision. "Punt it... they weren't going to put a drive together in 2.5 minutes with a 3rd string QB!" "Trust your defense... that's the NDSU way!"

Major kudos to Matt Entz. Chris Klieman or Craig Bohl punt that ball 100 times out of 100.

[BisonBacker]

I didn't mind the decision. Wasn't a fan of the vanilla play call or execution. There's a big difference between an 11 and 12 point lead. 12 point lead requires 2 TDs whereas 11 only requires a TD (plus the 2pt) and a FG. With the way SDSU was running the ball I didn't think forcing them to convert a 2pt try would've been that much of a detriment. But the play call left something to be desired. If they're going to be unorthodox and keep trying for 2pts in the middle of games they should probably come up with some plays other than a wildcat dive.

The 2pt conversion attempt was stupid call. Kicking the extra point in effect still forces SDSU to basically score three times..TD, 2pt conversion and a field goal. Yeah I hear some argue that the point after kick is like the third score but the odds of hitting an extra point are significantly higher than converting the 2pt attempt. Bottom line it was a dumbass call and Entz better pull his head out of his ass. He's done this several times this year and there was no call for it in any of them. The Butler game was a perfect example of that.

[Professor Chaos]

The 2pt conversion attempt was stupid call. Kicking the extra point in effect still forces SDSU to basically score three times..TD, 2pt conversion and a field goal. Yeah I hear some argue that the point after kick is like the third score but the odds of hitting an extra point are significantly higher than converting the 2pt attempt. Bottom line it was a dumbass call and Entz better pull his head out of his ass. He's done this several times this year and there was no call for it in any of them. The Butler game was a perfect example of that.
Disagree, apparently I think a 2pt try is a higher percentage play than you do. IMO the odds of converting are better than 50%. But I look at it as you kick an extra point in that scenario or you fail the 2pt you're basically in the same situation: a TD and a FG ahead. You convert the 2pt and you're 2 TDs ahead.

But I admit my philosophy here goes against how the majority of coaches generally call it. I think that if a team who's up 1 scores a TD they should go for 2 to try to make it a 2 score margin at 9 instead of kicking the XP and still be a one score game. This risk is worth the reward IMO. Yet hardly any coaches will go for 2 in that scenario.

[mmiller_34]

Pretty cool shot from yesterday.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191027/68e868a3d99ac0ce16dd06bb4c7bdc95.jpg

Tapatalk is making it blurry. I’ll fix later.

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[TheKingpin28]

Jensen's winning TD at Kansas State was on a second and goal.GSU part 2 was on a 4th and goal

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[TheKingpin28]

You going to envy that stadium in December in Fargo, don't think so but it is pretty nice. They did a great job with the IPF and the stadium.If it had a roof it would have been a 10/10

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[TennBison]

The 2pt conversion attempt was stupid call. Kicking the extra point in effect still forces SDSU to basically score three times..TD, 2pt conversion and a field goal. Yeah I hear some argue that the point after kick is like the third score but the odds of hitting an extra point are significantly higher than converting the 2pt attempt. Bottom line it was a dumbass call and Entz better pull his head out of his ass. He's done this several times this year and there was no call for it in any of them. The Butler game was a perfect example of that.
I don't mind the 2pt attempt in almost any attempt we have made so far this season. But the attempt yesterday was just a bad choice. And not because we didn't make it, it was just a bad thing to try period. The score was close, SDSU had been able to move the ball almost at will, our offense was struggling. Why not take the highest percentage play to put us into a position that even if SDSU does get a FG and a TD they have to make a 2 pt conversion just to tie. The way they were running in the second half, if they decided to go for a 2pt conversion after their last TD, I have to guess chances are we don't stop them. We were lucky they didn't go for it and put us down by 1pt as we would have been forced to score vs having the luxury of trying to score but no foul if we don't providing we burn up time. Yeah, we scored a TD on our last drive, and Entz is being hailed as a hero for making the call to go for it, but don't forget the stakes if we failed, and why we were in that position to begin with.
2pt attempt, RB pass attempt on 4th and 2-3(whatever), 20? QB run plays (sure seemed like it), no real intermediate pass plays, way to many low percentage home run pass plays. Hey I am glad for win by the way. But this kind of stuff here is more or less basic football knowledge, don't do the same thing over and over expecting different results kind of thing. RB pass was a bad choice by a player, kid trying to make a play when there was no real chance. But why was he trying that in the first place, play calling. Not saying fire the coaches, but come on, how many years have the coaches been doing this and watching or playing games, to have this knowledge. Sure, NDSU found a way to win in a game they were not dominating. But my take is, that right ATM the Bison are not playing like we need to. Talent is there in the players, now the coaching needs to step up.

[TennBison]

Disagree, apparently I think a 2pt try is a higher percentage play than you do. IMO the odds of converting are better than 50%. But I look at it as you kick an extra point in that scenario or you fail the 2pt you're basically in the same situation: a TD and a FG ahead. You convert the 2pt and you're 2 TDs ahead.

But I admit my philosophy here goes against how the majority of coaches generally call it. I think that if a team who's up 1 scores a TD they should go for 2 to try to make it a 2 score margin at 9 instead of kicking the XP and still be a one score game. This risk is worth the reward IMO. Yet hardly any coaches will go for 2 in that scenario.
I feel that if you want to follow that philosophy you need to go for a 2pt conversion after every TD. There was a high school in AR that never kicked........ever. And they had a great winning record and won several state championships. So going for 2pt conversions, while probably a 65% success rate for NDSU, would need to be done all the time to make the effort worth while over the span of a game/season. Only reason not go go for it would be when 1 point is needed for the win in the final seconds type thing.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Personally, I didn't like the 2 pt try. Take the point on the kick IMO. But I can see both sides.

[TheKingpin28]

So the Big Hobo Burger was on point. Damn wish the Fargodome would get halfway decent food options. Also, Tatanka made some killer Chorizo Brekfast Tacos. Perfect amount of heat and spices.

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[Derby City Duke]

He stepped out of bounds and then back in and kept running and I don't believe there was a whistle, is that still a penalty? This is a real question.

Don’t know. Haven’t watched the game yet. Give me an idea when it happened and I will watch for it. I was speaking in general terms about hits out of bounds.

[Bisonoline]

I think Lance still doesn't see the field very well. Even earlier in the season when he was putting up super efficient passing numbers he wasn't seeing wide open guys but it didn't matter because he was accurate throwing to his target. His accuracy has deteriorated over the last few but that's just as much a product of throwing a bunch a low percentage balls as anything IMO.

It's really too bad Gibbs got hurt. I'm sure the game would've played out differently had he played the whole game. The logical theory is a more balanced SDSU offense would've been a more effective one and tipped the scales SDSU's way in a tight game but I will give a tip of the hat homage to you-know-who "not so fast my friend". The SDSU O-line seemed much better at run blocking than pass blocking even in scenarios before their last drive when Tuszka dominated their RT and they didn't have to throw. Their O-line was wearing the Bison D-line down in the run game and I'm not sure that happens if Gibbs plays the whole game and they pass the ball more. So you can construct theories either way but it was too bad in any case that he got hurt on such a harmless looking play.

Hopefully he's back soon but if he's not I could see the Jacks taking a page out of the book of the 2015 Bison after Wentz got hurt. Going to a super run dominated offense behind a freshman QB seemed to galvanize the team that year especially the O-line and they were a much better team for it by the time Wentz came back... could be the same for SDSU if Gibbs comes back after missing a few weeks.


Hes only looking at half the field. He telegraphs it. I just dont understand why we dont throw more intermediate passes??? Its either the long homerun ball or the short try to get yards after the catch ball.
SDSU has been developing the O and D lines for some time. Their o-line controlled us pretty good until the last part of the game.

[POD Knows]

Don’t know. Haven’t watched the game yet. Give me an idea when it happened and I will watch for it. I was speaking in general terms about hits out of bounds.It was a QB run, he got close to the sideline, stepped on the line and came back into the field of play, still running with the ball and there was no whistle, it was a little bit of a bang bang play but without a whistle, what is the defender supposed to do? I actually get the call as they are trying to keep the game under control but I am curious as to what the actual rule is here.

[Schism55]

Hats off to both the Jacks team and their fans, both brought it yesterday....well done!
No disrespect to JMU but the Bison and Jacks are the 2 best teams, hopefully we can do this again in Frisco.

[RabidRabbit]

Bison and jacks were well matched. Even inversely all categories except for turn overs. There the bison won by 2 turnovers. 3 to 1. those 2 additional turnovers led to 14 points for bison . otherwise the jacks would have been bringing home the Dakota marker rather than the bison return again to Fargo. Good luck to both teams. It was a blast thanks to all the people that got together hope you enjoyed crawfish at to say. And We will see you down and fresco.

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[ursus arctos horribilis]

Personally, I didn't like the 2 pt try. Take the point on the kick IMO. But I can see both sides.

I can see that because we all like our divisible by 7 and 3 etc. but the 2 point seems more like football than the kick does to me.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I haven't kept up on the thread but if nobody else posted this I figured I'd put Herder's post showing the AGS flag in the opening from what I gathered out of the tweet.

https://twitter.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1188078723762925568

[TennBison]

Bison and jacks were well matched. Even inversely all categories except for turn overs. There the bison won by 2 turnovers. 3 to 1. those 2 additional turnovers led to 14 points for bison . otherwise the jacks would have been bringing home the Dakota marker rather than the bison return again to Fargo. Good luck to both teams. It was a blast thanks to all the people that got together hope you enjoyed crawfish at to say. And We will see you down and fresco.

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???? Hard to understand most of what you are saying, lol.
You can go have all the fun you want in fresco. NDSU would rather go to Frisco Tx.

[X-Factor]

Pretty cool shot from yesterday.

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Very nice place!

[Bisonoline]

Pretty cool shot from yesterday.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191027/68e868a3d99ac0ce16dd06bb4c7bdc95.jpg

Tapatalk is making it blurry. I’ll fix later.

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Great shot!!!!

[Tazman2664]

Yes, but if the turnovers don't happen the play calling changes and who knows what happens then. It always seems odd to me how people make that jump. As a coach, you make calls on what is and has happened to change things. Thus, you have no clue how the game would have turned out otherwise. As a coach, I always tell my players you have to respond to what is happening and not what might happen or what should have happened. If you dwell on the what could've or should've happen you have no chance to win. You can only respond to what is in front of you and not might have been. Otherwise, SDSU might just as well sit at home the rest of the season and think about those 2 turnovers.

[POD Knows]

Yes, but if the turnovers don't happen the play calling changes and who knows what happens then. It always seems odd to me how people make that jump. As a coach, you make calls on what is and has happened to change things. Thus, you have no clue how the game would have turned out otherwise. As a coach, I always tell my players you have to respond to what is happening and not what might happen or what should have happened. If you dwell on the what could've or should've happen you have no chance to win. You can only respond to what is in front of you and not might have been. Otherwise, SDSU might just as well sit at home the rest of the season and think about those 2 turnovers.Do you teach your players what a freaking paragraph is??

[Derby City Duke]

Do you teach your players what a freaking paragraph is??

I tried, but it apparently didn’t take...🤪

[IBleedYellow]

I haven't kept up on the thread but if nobody else posted this I figured I'd put Herder's post showing the AGS flag in the opening from what I gathered out of the tweet.

https://twitter.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1188078723762925568*Bows*

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[Professor Chaos]

Bison and jacks were well matched. Even inversely all categories except for turn overs. There the bison won by 2 turnovers. 3 to 1. those 2 additional turnovers led to 14 points for bison . otherwise the jacks would have been bringing home the Dakota marker rather than the bison return again to Fargo. Good luck to both teams. It was a blast thanks to all the people that got together hope you enjoyed crawfish at to say. And We will see you down and fresco.

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NDSU won the turnover battle 2 to 1. And it's a little misleading to say the 2nd turnover led to a TD when the Bison took over at their own 20 yard line. Turnovers were key as they always are but the bigger key was the 2 explosive 50+ yard plays the Bison got. Turnovers and explosive plays are the "sudden change plays" you hear coaches harp on all the time about the importance of winning. Combine those two and the Bison won that battle 4 to 1. That was the difference in the game.

I'll also toss in there that NDSU owed SDSU a few after losing the turnover battle 5 to 1 in Brookings in 2017. You take away the turnovers that game would've played out a lot differently than it did but you can't take them away unfortunately.

[RabidRabbit]

???? Hard to understand most of what you are saying, lol.
You can go have all the fun you want in fresco. NDSU would rather go to Frisco Tx.Damn autocorrect of spoken text. Etouffee isn't in dictionary. Nor is Frisco. Dang good game, except results.

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[Twentysix]

Honestly, how much did the Jacks pay the refs before the game? This was reviewed (Ostensibly with equipment that can freeze frame) and still blown. Tuszka takes possession of the ball while the QB still has both feet on the ground. SDSU retains possession. Unreal. I'm seeing jacks fans that think the refs were on NDSU's side when NDSU had TD/Takeaways scrubbed and had 100 yds in penaltys. Lighter reffing and NDSU wins by 2-3 TDs imo.
https://i.imgur.com/RYIWv5V.png
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https://i.imgur.com/mURw5fc.png

[Professor Chaos]

I think that decision to let the call stand was somewhat dictated by game situation. SDSU had their backs up against the wall with very little chance to move the ball anyway and the replay official didn't want to take the ball out of their hands by overturning a call on the field. Not saying it's the right thing to do but in the end is much ado about nothing since it didn't have any effect on how the game ended.

I can tell you that the replay official in this game was not named Bill Fette.

[Gil Dobie]

I didn't think either team played that great, and SDSU was without it's #1 QB. The game is over, we can't rewrite the game with or without turnovers, with or without ref calls, with or without penalties. Like they say, "if ifs and buts were candies and nuts". On to the next game.

[TheKingpin28]

I think that decision to let the call stand was somewhat dictated by game situation. SDSU had their backs up against the wall with very little chance to move the ball anyway and the replay official didn't want to take the ball out of their hands by overturning a call on the field. Not saying it's the right thing to do but in the end is much ado about nothing since it didn't have any effect on how the game ended.

I can tell you that the replay official in this game was not named Bill Fette.Is he even allowed in the same state that NDSU is currently calling home for that weekend?

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[POD Knows]

I think that decision to let the call stand was somewhat dictated by game situation. SDSU had their backs up against the wall with very little chance to move the ball anyway and the replay official didn't want to take the ball out of their hands by overturning a call on the field. Not saying it's the right thing to do but in the end is much ado about nothing since it didn't have any effect on how the game ended.

I can tell you that the replay official in this game was not named Bill Fette.They blew the call, pure and simple. SDSU still had a chance to win. Garbage call by the crew.

[Christiank22]

Honestly, how much did the Jacks pay the refs before the game? This was reviewed (Ostensibly with equipment that can freeze frame) and still blown. Tuszka takes possession of the ball while the QB still has both feet on the ground. SDSU retains possession. Unreal. I'm seeing jacks fans that think the refs were on NDSU's side when NDSU had TD/Takeaways scrubbed and had 100 yds in penaltys. Lighter reffing and NDSU wins by 2-3 TDs imo.


Your first mistake was listening to anything a jacks fan says. They’re the Vikings of FCS, all they can talk about is moral victories and if, ands, or buts.

[Professor Chaos]

They blew the call, pure and simple. SDSU still had a chance to win. Garbage call by the crew.
Come on POD, it's gotta be irrefutable. There is no way you can tell on the video that SDSU's QB didn't suddenly sprout a 3rd arm out of his chest and was grasping the ball with that as he went to the turf. Equal possession goes to the offense. :D

[Bison56]

Your first mistake was listening to anything a jacks fan says. They’re the Vikings of FCS, all they can talk about is moral victories and if, ands, or buts.
Nobody comes close to crying more than Viking fans. If it wasn't for the refs they probably would have won 10 super bowls by now, just ask them.

[RowdyRabbit]

Honestly, how much did the Jacks pay the refs before the game? This was reviewed (Ostensibly with equipment that can freeze frame) and still blown. Tuszka takes possession of the ball while the QB still has both feet on the ground. SDSU retains possession. Unreal. I'm seeing jacks fans that think the refs were on NDSU's side when NDSU had TD/Takeaways scrubbed and had 100 yds in penaltys. Lighter reffing and NDSU wins by 2-3 TDs imo.
https://i.imgur.com/RYIWv5V.png
https://i.imgur.com/BMkLpaq.png
https://i.imgur.com/mURw5fc.png

Wow...pretty easy to see a fumble there.

Unless I totally missed it, and I don't think I did, because the NDSU folk around us didn't put up to much of a fuss either, the video shown in the stadium, you couldn't see the ball, so I assumed he was down. Our video guys probably wouldn't have shown it otherwise.

[POD Knows]

Come on POD, it's gotta be irrefutable. There is no way you can tell on the video that SDSU's QB didn't suddenly sprout a 3rd arm out of his chest and was grasping the ball with that as he went to the turf. Equal possession goes to the offense. :DThat is a good point, the extra appendage defense, ignore my previous post.

[TheKingpin28]

Nobody comes close to crying more than Viking fans. If it wasn't for the refs they probably would have won 10 super bowls by now, just ask them.Have you met Packers fans? Jesus christ they ****ing bitched and moan when Rodgers gets a dirty look or the Lions make a stop in the endzone. I didnt hear the end of that for over a year.

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[jacksfan29!]

Honestly, how much did the Jacks pay the refs before the game? This was reviewed (Ostensibly with equipment that can freeze frame) and still blown. Tuszka takes possession of the ball while the QB still has both feet on the ground. SDSU retains possession. Unreal. I'm seeing jacks fans that think the refs were on NDSU's side when NDSU had TD/Takeaways scrubbed and had 100 yds in penaltys. Lighter reffing and NDSU wins by 2-3 TDs imo.
https://i.imgur.com/RYIWv5V.png
https://i.imgur.com/BMkLpaq.png
https://i.imgur.com/mURw5fc.png

Did they hit the Bison with a 15 yard face masking call on this play?

[wow]

Honestly, how much did the Jacks pay the refs before the game? This was reviewed (Ostensibly with equipment that can freeze frame) and still blown. Tuszka takes possession of the ball while the QB still has both feet on the ground. SDSU retains possession. Unreal. I'm seeing jacks fans that think the refs were on NDSU's side when NDSU had TD/Takeaways scrubbed and had 100 yds in penaltys. Lighter reffing and NDSU wins by 2-3 TDs imo.
https://i.imgur.com/RYIWv5V.png
https://i.imgur.com/BMkLpaq.png
https://i.imgur.com/mURw5fc.png

Is that the angle the replay crew had? SDSU had a situation a few years ago in Fargo where a TD pass was ruled incomplete that was clearly caught - but you couldn't see it on any of the angles the replay crew had.

[TheKingpin28]

Did they hit the Bison with a 15 yard face masking call on this play?Nah but they hit us with the late hit calls. xcoffeex

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[Bisonator]

Still haven't had a chance to watch the game but listened to it on the radio live and my heart was pounding in that 4th quarter. Good game Jacks!

[wow]

Nah but they hit us with the late hit calls. xcoffeex

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Then the Bison shouldn't hit people late.

The still shots clearly show a facemask and fumble. Neither was called. Bison fans insist the only missed call was the fumble. LOL, so typical.

[POD Knows]

Then the Bison shouldn't hit people late.

The still shots clearly show a facemask and fumble. Neither was called. Bison fans insist the only missed call was the fumble. LOL, so typical.That is not a facemask, he had his hand in the top of the QB's shoulder pads just under the helmet. xnodx

[IBleedYellow]

Then the Bison shouldn't hit people late.

The still shots clearly show a facemask and fumble. Neither was called. Bison fans insist the only missed call was the fumble. LOL, so typical.

One of those can be changed via review.

Guess which one can and can't be.

[jacksfan29!]

And those were deserved. Sorry, but they really were late hits. The refs didn't assist any side, there were some bad calls, both ways. Yet, in typical fashion, a small group of Bison fans will whine after a win. I have never seen a fan base of a team which has had incredible success have such an inferiority complex.


Nah but they hit us with the late hit calls. xcoffeex

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[jacksfan29!]

That is not a facemask, he had his hand in the top of the QB's shoulder pads just under the helmet. xnodx

That's why the QB's chin is being pulled down to his chest. Because "the hand is on the shoulder pads". Oh, and his helmet is clearly being pulled sideways.

[POD Knows]

That's why the QB's chin is being pulled down to his chest. The hand is on the shoulder pads. Right!!!His head is being pulled forward by the force of the impact. Basic physics. xthumbsupx

[wow]

One of those can be changed via review.

Guess which one can and can't be.

Do you want good officiating or officiating that favors the Bison?

Good officiating means there would have been a 15 yard penalty against the Bison on that play.

Many Bison fans seem to want BAD officiating as long as it favors the Bison. I'm shocked.

[Winterborn]

His head is being pulled forward by the force of the impact. Basic physics. xthumbsupx

Newton's Third Law xnodx

[wow]

That is not a facemask, he had his hand in the top of the QB's shoulder pads just under the helmet. xnodx

I just rewatched the play, it was a facemask. It happened quick, but perfect officiating means yards for the Jack's on that play - not Bison football. You guys want good officiating, right???

[wow]

For those who like stillshots:

https://i.imgur.com/cYfqqBn.jpg

[TheKingpin28]

Then the Bison shouldn't hit people late.

The still shots clearly show a facemask and fumble. Neither was called. Bison fans insist the only missed call was the fumble. LOL, so typical.

Clearly the joke is lost upon you. Every other play, NDSU got called for a late hit whereas SDSU hit our players 2 steps out of bounds and the refs smirked and scoffed.

[POD Knows]

I just rewatched the play, it was a facemask. It happened quick, but perfect officiating means yards for the Jack's on that play - not Bison football. You guys want good officiating, right???I watched the replay over and over again and didn't see it, but I saw the fumble and that is the only thing that was completely definitive. We can argue officiating all day long, they are going to miss stuff and I don't think either team was given an advantage in this game. I am not convinced that the offensive PI on the Bison TD was the best call but I didn't have the best angle from my barstool in Fargo.

[Lorne_Malvo]

Come on POD, it's gotta be irrefutable. There is no way you can tell on the video that SDSU's QB didn't suddenly sprout a 3rd arm out of his chest and was grasping the ball with that as he went to the turf. Equal possession goes to the offense. :D


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[IBleedYellow]

Do you want good officiating or officiating that favors the Bison?

Good officiating means there would have been a 15 yard penalty against the Bison on that play.

Many Bison fans seem to want BAD officiating as long as it favors the Bison. I'm shocked.No. I don't want bad officiating.

At all. Ask Thumper about my thoughts and actions with regards to MVFC officiating.

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[Tazman2664]

Well, some calls are missed, some are made and some are made that should not have been made. The fact is, you have to play on no matter what. As a coach, not on a college level with replay, I have told my players to play on. Most of the time the plays will not be reviewed so no new call will be made. Gotta just live with it and focus on the next play. If you dwell on a previous play you are gong to miss out on the next play and that will hurt your team worse. Just gotta I've with what the refs all or don't call. If you are going to whine about it, I'll get the cheese for you.

[AmsterBison]

Well, some calls are missed, some are made and some are made that should not have been made. The fact is, you have to play on no matter what. As a coach, not on a college level with replay, I have told my players to play on. Most of the time the plays will not be reviewed so no new call will be made. Gotta just live with it and focus on the next play. If you dwell on a previous play you are gong to miss out on the next play and that will hurt your team worse. Just gotta I've with what the refs all or don't call. If you are going to whine about it, I'll get the cheese for you.

Still trying to find a play where #78 from SDSU didn't hold, but I'm pretty sure he got away with it four plays in a row in this sequence. :)


https://youtu.be/a7zE8dyVMBU?t=7683

[Professor Chaos]

Make sure you have your sound on. ;)

https://twitter.com/RossUglem/status/1188962673247031296

[Tazman2664]

I have been watching this play over and over again on the FCS site. But SDSU blew this. the Linebackers and Safeties come up to push in the middle but the defensive ends and the cornerbacks have to protect the edge. It looks like the cornerback got taken out, kinda easily but the defense end crash the middle and his end was wide open. You have to rely on your teammates to do their job so you don't need to crash in on them to help and the corner never looked for the run, he just went up field, way to far up field. The cornerback needed to protect that edge so 2 or 3 steps into the back field is all, you want to make the back have to go around you.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I have been watching this play over and over again on the FCS site. But SDSU blew this. the Linebackers and Safeties come up to push in the middle but the defensive ends and the cornerbacks have to protect the edge. It looks like the cornerback got taken out, kinda easily but the defense end crash the middle and his end was wide open. You have to rely on your teammates to do their job so you don't need to crash in on them to help and the corner never looked for the run, he just went up field, way to far up field. The cornerback needed to protect that edge so 2 or 3 steps into the back field is all, you want to make the back have to go around you.


They said after the game, they all thought it was going to be a QB sneak. NDSU TE and FB both had great blocks.

[Tazman2664]

When I watch the play from the point he is running at you, the DE already caved in so the SB block on him was a given (TE was in a down position and took the DT). The Cornerback went to far up field, he should only take 2 maybe 3 steps up field. The game plan is for the RB to have to run around him not under him (to the outside not the inside of him). Forcing the RB to run to your outside means he has to run more east and west, but the RB got north and south real easy. It was a good play call but bad defense. Ask any football coach on how they coach the DE and CB to play a run to their side and the goal is for the DE to make the RB run inside them, into the other defensive linemen and linebackers and with the CB to make the RB run outside of them so pursuit can catchup. The DE caved so the only place for the RB to go is outside of him and the CB came too far up field which made the RB run inside of him. The strategy for a run up the middle, QB sneak, if for the linebackers and safeties to come up and help. For A DE to get into the middle of a QB sneak is impossible, by the time the DE gets there the ball will have gone up field as far as it was going to go so the DE help is really nothing. That is why you teach them to stay home and make the QB / RB run inside them.

[Schism55]

https://twitter.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1189021063113564160

[Tazman2664]

That is sad news. But, the DE was number 46, Preston Tetzlaff, a junior that got taken out by going inside. He is listed as a LB but also plays DE. Maybe because of the injury he was playing there more than usual. Still, as a junior I am sure he heard the coaches talk about turning the play in so that the runner runs into the other lineman and the LBs. Being a LB, he knows the roll the DE plays because it impacts him as a LB. Again, SDSU played a good game but this situation, I feel, goes back to the coaches. Especially after a timeout. The defensive line and linebacker coaches needed to be telling the players how to play their position for this particular play. With the timeout, the coaches need to go over each players roll for the specific play. Especially, being it was on NDSUs 30 and getting the ball back more than likely would result in a game winning field goal. SDSU wins a lot but they just can't get over NDSU. I think they need to ask themselves if it time for a coaching change, otherwise they probably will be settling for second best for some time to come. He is a good coach, wins a lot but not against NDSU and has not won a title, got to think a change might be needed.

[CappinHard]

That is sad news. But, the DE was number 46, Preston Tetzlaff, a junior that got taken out by going inside. He is listed as a LB but also plays DE. Maybe because of the injury he was playing there more than usual. Still, as a junior I am sure he heard the coaches talk about turning the play in so that the runner runs into the other lineman and the LBs. Being a LB, he knows the roll the DE plays because it impacts him as a LB. Again, SDSU played a good game but this situation, I feel, goes back to the coaches. Especially after a timeout. The defensive line and linebacker coaches needed to be telling the players how to play their position for this particular play. With the timeout, the coaches need to go over each players roll for the specific play. Especially, being it was on NDSUs 30 and getting the ball back more than likely would result in a game winning field goal. SDSU wins a lot but they just can't get over NDSU. I think they need to ask themselves if it time for a coaching change, otherwise they probably will be settling for second best for some time to come. He is a good coach, wins a lot but not against NDSU and has not won a title, got to think a change might be needed.

Just stop talking.

1. We had 5 LBs on the field. Tetzlaff is the 5th LB on the depth chart and doesn't play DE at all. Ever. There was another LB outside of him because the TE motioned to that side.
2. The TE just beat him on this play, plain and simple. If he holds his ground, we had a chance of stopping that play or keeping it to a minimum at least.
3. The coaches were thinking NDSU would run a QB sneak or dive play, that's what they planned for. NDSU made a great play call and decided to go off tackle, which can be risky because it takes longer for the RB to get to the LOS. However, NDSU executed it perfectly. Hats of to them.
4. So, we've made the playoffs 7 times in a row, semifinals 2 years in a row, and were tied with NDSU with 2:42 left in the game... something no team has been even close to doing this year. Not to mention, 2 out of 3 of NDSU's last losses were to SDSU. All of that, and you think we need a coaching change. By your measure, every single program that ever plays NDSU should change their coach.
5. See my preface to these 5 points.

[mvfcfan]

You don't fire a coach that has gotten you to the semi-finals two years in a row. No one has gotten over the hump to beat NDSU. It's not an SDSU problem. They just happen to be the rival that actually competes. Heck most teams can't compete for 1 quarter against NDSU.

I also think that within a few seasons SDSU will get over the hump and win the nat'l championship.

[CappinHard]

Also... for the people that like to pick apart stills and think that the refs were on SDSU's side, here are a couple for you on the play that decided the game. I'm not saying this should have been called because the TE was engaged and the LB turned around, but it definitely could have been called when he finished it with the push in the back to the ground as the LB was trying to make the tackle. First one shows him clearly blocking in the back (after the LB turned around). Second one shows him finishing the block in the back as Tetzlaff tries to tackle Cofield. The ref in the middle wasn't looking that way, but the ref on the sideline could have seen it.

https://i.imgur.com/yDRLfJs.png

https://i.imgur.com/Mkgb2F9.png

[Bison56]

Just stop talking.

1. We had 5 LBs on the field. Tetzlaff is the 5th LB on the depth chart and doesn't play DE at all. Ever. There was another LB outside of him because the TE motioned to that side.
2. The TE just beat him on this play, plain and simple. If he holds his ground, we had a chance of stopping that play or keeping it to a minimum at least.
3. The coaches were thinking NDSU would run a QB sneak or dive play, that's what they planned for. NDSU made a great play call and decided to go off tackle, which can be risky because it takes longer for the RB to get to the LOS. However, NDSU executed it perfectly. Hats of to them.
4. So, we've made the playoffs 7 times in a row, semifinals 2 years in a row, and were tied with NDSU with 2:42 left in the game... something no team has been even close to doing this year. Not to mention, 2 out of 3 of NDSU's last losses were to SDSU. All of that, and you think we need a coaching change. By your measure, every single program that ever plays NDSU should change their coach.
5. See my preface to these 5 points.

I second this.

[Bison56]

Also... for the people that like to pick apart stills and think that the refs were on SDSU's side, here are a couple for you on the play that decided the game. I'm not saying this should have been called because the TE was engaged and the LB turned around, but it definitely could have been called when he finished it with the push in the back to the ground as the LB was trying to make the tackle. First one shows him clearly blocking in the back (after the LB turned around). Second one shows him finishing the block in the back as Tetzlaff tries to tackle Cofield. The ref in the middle wasn't looking that way, but the ref on the sideline could have seen it.

https://i.imgur.com/yDRLfJs.png

https://i.imgur.com/Mkgb2F9.png

That's not illegal, unless the rules have changed recently.