#1 NDSU @ #10 Illinois State

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Thought I better get a poll on this one since I screwed the other one up....xsmhx

Sorry Ursus!

[dewey]

Great job on getting a poll going.

Go Bison!

Dewey

[Professor Chaos]

You can add a poll to any thread you've created I believe. Just go into the Thread Tools dropdown and select the Add a Poll option. I just tried it on a thread I created in July and looks like it would work on even that old of a thread.

[Derby City Duke]

Bison may struggle a bit early, but I don't think at any point in the game the Illinois St. fans will truly feel like they can win the game. Sort of the way I felt watching Louisville play Notre Dame -- even with a 14-7 Cardinals' lead at the end of the first quarter, I never thought they would win.

Bison by 17 points.

[FUGameBreaker]

Voting for Ill. St. to knock off the Bison and pull ole FU into the #2 longest FCS winning streak behind Princeton, good luck Redbirds xthumbsupx

[Redbird 4th & short]

amazingly, this could be the best game is FCS on saturday ... and just 5 posts.

So Ive been posting about our offense, and all the "ifs ands and buts" about our QB and pass game.

So here is some info about our defense, probably the biggest front 7 and all 11 in all of FCS, and certainly comparable to most P5 FBS programs. Here's who you will see in the game the most from our 1's and 2's .. we play a 3-4-4.

DL Group: most of the outside rush will come from DE McKnight and LB/Jack Tuvone Clark .. reserve Podkulski plays as much as starters .. not a SR in the group yet. Inside we go 325 lbs, 295, 290, when needed. This group goes 5 deep with quality guys.

LB Group: You can see our LBer group ranges from 230-250 for most part and we will play as many as 8 guys with confidence. Starters are SR laiden group, but plenty of underclassmen backups getting real reps and could start and barely lose a beat. Clark is a beast. We like all 8.

DB Group: Kirk and Taylor are studs .. guy who is surprising everyone is Clayton Isbell .. another beast in the making - he will make big plays. We go 6 deep with confidence.



String
POS
CLASS
HT
WT
NAME


1
DL
JR
6' 5"
260 lbs
Romeo McKnight8


1
DL
SO
6' 6"
290 lbs
Jason Lewan94


1
DL
SO
6' 6"
325 lbs
John Ridgeway99


2
DL
JR
6' 1"
275 lbs
Jacob Powell96


2
DL
JR
6' 4"
295 lbs
Steven Podkulski90


1
LB
SR
6' 3"
235 lbs
DeMarco Washington47


1
LB
JR
6' 0"
240 lbs
Dylan Draka42


1
LB
SR
6' 2"
250 lbs
Tuvone Clark6


1
LB
SR
6' 0"
250 lbs
Ty DeForest50


2
LB
SR
6' 0"
230 lbs
Aaron Mends31


2
LB
FR
6' 4"
225 lbs
Blake Fehrman44


2
LB
SO
6' 0"
250 lbs
Brandon Simon55


2
LB
SO
6' 3"
235 lbs
Zeke Vandenburgh5


1
DB
SO
6' 1"
175 lbs
Charles Woods9


1
DB
JR
6' 3"
195 lbs
Christian Uphoff24


1
DB
JR
6' 1"
200 lbs
Devin Taylor3


1
DB
SR
6' 2"
195 lbs
Luther Kirk14


2
DB
FR
5' 10"
210 lbs
Mike Gardner21


2
DB
FR
6' 2"
220 lbs
Clayton Isbell23

[fencer24]

After UC Davis, you have to wonder if the Bison are finally vulnerable.

[Gil Dobie]

After UC Davis, you have to wonder if the Bison are finally vulnerable.

Young team with a new coach, they are vulnerable, but have performed very good so far.

[ST_Lawson]

After UC Davis, you have to wonder if the Bison are finally vulnerable.

- "down year" (for NDSU)
- coming off a tough win, then a bye week
- playing on the road against a pretty decent MVFC team

I think ILSU has a halfway decent shot. I don't expect them to win, but I could see it being a pretty close game. If the weather in Normal is anything like it's supposed to be in Macomb this Saturday, rain could be a factor (I don't know who that helps in this situation though).

[Redbird 4th & short]

- "down year" (for NDSU)
- coming off a tough win, then a bye week
- playing on the road against a pretty decent MVFC team

I think ILSU has a halfway decent shot. I don't expect them to win, but I could see it being a pretty close game. If the weather in Normal is anything like it's supposed to be in Macomb this Saturday, rain could be a factor (I don't know who that helps in this situation though).

There was rain delay against NAU and it rained lightly for most of the game .. we did just fine in the light rain on both side of ball. Our field turf is just 1 year old, so it is in very good shape.

[skinny_uncle]

GOTW?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Best match up will be the NDSU OL versus the Redbird DL.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

After UC Davis, you have to wonder if the Bison are finally vulnerable.


Like I mentioned in another thread, counting this year, this year's team will probably be the weakest of the next 4. There are a lot of young players this year but they are getting better and better.


SR: 13
JR: 19
SO: 26
RFR + TRF: 58

Young team!


Davis shot their wad against the Bison. It wouldn't surprise me if UND beats them Saturday.

[Herder]

Every time I see player weights rounded to every 5 lbs, it shouts embellished.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Every time I see player weights rounded to every 5 lbs, it shouts embellished.
Weights fluctuate and Spack and strength coach are very big on assessing body type potential to determine position and building them up into their position to their max effective weight. That is also why our roster is so tall .. so he can put more weight on the frame if needed.

But I wonder the same thing about all rosters .. but it would not play well with NFL scouts if Spack had his thumb on scale .. we'veusually got 3-5 guys being looked at each year, sometimes more. So I'm guessing when they do their summer weigh in, they will round up anyone they expect to keep gaining weight. But I highly doubt were talking about anything in excess of 2-4 lbs overstated. And I've yet to see any Redbird players materially different when they go do their pro day camps elsewhere.

OL Mike Liedtke (class of 2014) was prime example .. he was 240 lbs coming out of HS and worked his way up to 305 lbs as SR, and is now in NFL at exact same weight. Spack would never compromise his credibility with NFL scouts.

[Redbird 4th & short]

GOTW?
25 to 5 so far ?!?

Not surprised based on our 4 game sampling of performance. But that is why I keep saying, it depends on which QB Davis shows up. First quarter will tell me a lot ... though I'm assuming we will start conservative with our play calling, but build up from there and see if he is hanging tough in pocket and making throws, or gets happy feet. If/when he does the former, he will impress. But I expect our defense to match up very well regardless .. only issue will be if they are on the field too long .. cuz sh-t eventually happens even to good defenses against good offenses.

[Redbird 4th & short]

bump for last minute pity votes ... come on Redbird fans ... where are you !! 26 to 5 .... or 4 .. wasn't that a hit Chicago song ??

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

bump for last minute pity votes ... come on Redbird fans ... where are you !! 26 to 5 .... or 4 .. wasn't that a hit Chicago song ??


On the way to BWWs last night to watch the Twins, I drove by the Central Catholic football field. They had a very nice tailgate going....better than some FCS teams I've been to. Impressive!!

[Redbird 4th & short]

On the way to BWWs last night to watch the Twins, I drove by the Central Catholic football field. They had a very nice tailgate going....better than some FCS teams I've been to. Impressive!!
Have you been to Hancock for game yet ?

Weather really sucked 2 years ago. You'll see some good tailgating scattered everywhere fir today. It is Family Day and weather looks good so far .. chance of rain is pushing towards 4pm.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Have you been to Hancock for game yet ?

Weather really sucked 2 years ago. You'll see some good tailgating scattered everywhere fir today. It is Family Day and weather looks good so far .. chance of rain is pushing towards 4pm.

Yes, I was at the game 2 years ago at Hancock. I loved it!!

[Redbird 4th & short]

Yes, I was at the game 2 years ago at Hancock. I loved it!!

Me too ... up until Stick broke away for 60 yard run in Q4.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Game Day!!
This will be a good game.

Bison OL and Redbird DL = strength vs strength

Can the Bison defense get pressure on Davis so he makes mistakes? Can the Bison slow down Robinson? Will Spack throw a bunch of different looks at TL? Will the Bison play man coverage on the WRs to get more hats in the box to stop Robinson?

Lots of questions that will be answered in a few hours!

Close win for the Bison.

[POD Knows]

bump for last minute pity votes ... come on Redbird fans ... where are you !! 26 to 5 .... or 4 .. wasn't that a hit Chicago song ??
I got your back, I voted for ISUR to win this game on this poll, I also picked you in the MVFC pick 'em and the AGS pick 'em. It is a lock #BOOKIT

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I got your back, I voted for ISUR to win this game on this poll, I also picked you in the MVFC pick 'em and the AGS pick 'em. It is a lock #BOOKIT

The official "#bookit" is almost 100% , or is it 100%???

[dewey]

GAMEDAY!

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[POD Knows]

The official "#bookit" is almost 100% , or is it 100%???
Early away game after a bye week and a tough game going into the bye week. The massive size and quickness of ISUr on both sides of the ball, young Bison team with the first true road test of the year. Apparently a sold out crowd as tickets are $130 on Vivid and almost none available (second most $$ ticket in college football today just behind the Auburn-Florida tickets) doesn't bode well for the guys in Green and Yellow. ISUr 24 NDSU 17, the only chance the Bison have of winning is if the open the Fargo Dome and allow me to stand in the SE corner. Streak ends today boys and girls and Alt Tru, take it to the bank #BOOKIT

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Early away game after a bye week and a tough game going into the bye week. The massive size and quickness of ISUr on both sides of the ball, young Bison team with the first true road test of the year. Apparently a sold out crowd as tickets are $130 on Vivid and almost none available (second most $$ ticket in college football today just behind the Auburn-Florida tickets) doesn't bode well for the guys in Green and Yellow. ISUr 24 NDSU 17, the only chance the Bison have of winning is if the open the Fargo Dome and allow me to stand in the SE corner. Streak ends today boys and girls and Alt Tru, take it to the bank #BOOKIT

Don't include Zerotru on anything Bison football related. He's only a troll like JBB.

[TheKingpin28]

I find it comical that the announcers "chose" to reference ISUr as #6 from the "Coaches Poll".

[TheKingpin28]

Bison with the fumble recovery!

[TheKingpin28]

Alright announcers, cut that **** out, and say the name correctly.

[TheKingpin28]

TD NDSU! Lance to Gindorff!

[Bison56]

Beautiful play for a Bison TD!

[Lorne_Malvo]

I dont think that the stache was expecting NDSU to come out throwing. That was way too easy.

[Bisonator]

Teams might want to cover our TE's. xnodx

[TheKingpin28]

This Bison D looks angry.

[TheKingpin28]

Brooks with the HR!

53yd TD run

[Bisonator]

Wow

[TheKingpin28]

Kick the ****ing XP!

[BisonFan02]

There's the random Entz "going for it" 2 point conversion. haha

[Drblankstare]

Lmao, that was one of the worst fake extra point play calls I’ve ever seen.

[Bisonator]

Our special teams need more work. xrolleyesx

[TheKingpin28]

How in the hell do you kick the ball out of bounds on the kickoff? Get this STs unit some reps in practice.

[BisonFan02]

Robinson for ISUr looks like a load to take down.

[Kemo]

"Turnovers and big plays is how you beat the Bison," has been grossly misinterpreted by the Redbirds so far.

[dewey]

Great start for the Bison. I don't like going for 2 though.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

How in the hell do you kick the ball out of bounds on the kickoff? Get this STs unit some reps in practice.
Yea. With a big wind behind you. **** happens I guess

[Drblankstare]

Ill St very wisely not abandoning the run, even though they are down early

[TheKingpin28]

Yea. With a big wind behind you. **** happens I guess

Kick it right down the middle? I mean, come on, giving them free yards.

[Bisonator]

Tackle! Need to work on that too.

[BisonFan02]

NDSU has stuggled this year tackling at times...especially with bigger RBs.

[dewey]

James Robinson is a stud.

11 carries for about 61yards so far.

Dewey

[TheKingpin28]

ISUr has some serious butterfingers.

[TheKingpin28]

Nice bend but don't break for NDSU there but they should have recovered that fumble.

[dewey]

Good stop on 3rd down.

13-3 203 to go 1st quarter.

Dewey

[Lorne_Malvo]

Robinson should transfer to FBS. The guy has incredible talent that will get wasted at ISU. No offense Redbirds, but the guy should do whatever it takes to get his shot on Sundays.

[Kemo]

Robinson is a stud but ISU-Red isn't coming close in this game if Davis doesn't show some competence at the QB position.

[Drblankstare]

Tackle! Need to work on that too.

Its been less than stellar previous games, but it’s probably more forgivable today, Robinson is a tough dude to get ahold of.

[TheKingpin28]

How did Brooks get caught from behind? Should have been a kickoff TD.

[X-Factor]

James Robinson is a stud.

11 carries for about 61yards so far.

Dewey

Yep. They need to find someone else though. He will wear out if he is expected to carry 40 times. Robinson by himself has zero chance of beating NDSU

[Lorne_Malvo]

Catching Brooks in a wide open field, Jackson has overdrive.

[dewey]

I am surprised Brooks was caught.

Huge 72 yard kickoff return.

Bison at the Redbird 17.

Dewey

[Drblankstare]

Just an awful series for the Bison offense. Special teams gives you a gift and you do that.

[BisonFan02]

Looks like Brooks was cramping a bit after that KO return.

[dewey]

Griffen Crosa has been awesome so far this season.

16-3 7 seconds to go 1st quarter.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

That delay of game after a time stoppage was huge but weirdly enough you see that quite a bit for some reason. Little bit of a lost opportunity there but it looks like we have a pretty good field goal kicker.

[BisonFan02]

Bison D gameplan for the remainder.....eliminate Robinson.

[POD Knows]

ISUr is completely one dimensional. Generally that doesn’t bode well but Robinson is freaking good

[TheKingpin28]

A player like Robinson comes around every so often and he won't do anything in college if ISUr has no passing game. Would have love to have seen him in the Green and Gold.

[TheKingpin28]

TD NDSU

Cofield gets in

23-3

[Bisonator]

Damn I thought ISUr defense was better then what they have shown so far. Our offense is gutting them.

[Bison56]

Damn I thought ISUr defense was better then what they have shown so far. Our offense is gutting them.

Same here, I thought this was going to be a low scoring battle. So far not real impressed with ISUr D.

[centennial]

One thing I am noticing that even with NDSU running different defense and offense(to some extent) the talent differential keeps getting bigger. Trey Lance is looking like he could play for a SEC team. The linemen on both side are still B10 quality with losing so many starters, and most of the coaches. I am just flabbergasted.

[dewey]

Great start so far for the Bison. 201 yards of toyal offense so far. Other than 1 drive the defense has been lights out.

Dewey

[dewey]

Good stop by the Redbirds.

Dewey

[BisonFan02]

He didn't catch that. haha

[TheKingpin28]

We just going to ignore that facemask?

[BisonFan02]

Nice facemask.....crew is having a tough game.

[Lorne_Malvo]

Missed facemask. Refs at it again trying to keep the other team in the game.

So pushing a umpire to the ground isnt a penalty these days. Interesting.

[Kemo]

That was a bit of a face mask...

[POD Knows]

****ty no call on the face mask. Could be a huge play.

[TheKingpin28]

NDSU causes another fumble but ISUr recovers it.

[BisonFan02]

Love that timeout call! xlolx

[POD Knows]

Missed facemask. Refs at it again trying to keep the other team in the game.

So pushing a umpire to the ground isnt a penalty these days. Interesting.
Yep. The guy that pushed the official had his head up when he did it. Couldn’t see the stripes I guess

[dewey]

Dominating 1st half for the Bison.

23-3 Bison at halftime.

Dewey

[semobison]

Watching Illinois State's offense makes me appreciate the QB's NDSU has been able to put on the field the last 9 years!

[POD Knows]

The left tackle for ISUr has been getting his ass handled to him the entire game

[dewey]

Here are the 1st half stats.

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[X-Factor]

I guess the size of ISUr is a non factor

[BisonFan02]

Drive killing penalties.

[TheKingpin28]

Not a fan of how much NDSU likes to run the ball out of the shotgun. Get back under center and run the Pro-Set offense.

[POD Knows]

Stupid assed ****ing drive killing penalty

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

So at halftime ESPN plus had the scores of the MVFC and they had ISU 38 and NDSU 13, not much of a difference therexdrunkyx

[BisonFan02]

For those keeping track, ISUr has 0 penalty yards. :D xlolx

[TheKingpin28]

**** these penalties.

[Drblankstare]

Other than the obvious facemask miss, I’ve thought these refs have done a great job. This is football, let them play. The NFL refs have made pro football damn near unwatchable

[BisonFan02]

This is almost getting ****ing comical.

[Drblankstare]

Lmao, and just like that they call an absolute bull**** hit out of bounds

[BisonFan02]

Lmao, and just like that they call an absolute bull**** hit out of bounds

There's been more, but if they wanna call it tight like that, they need to be consistent on both sides.

[TheKingpin28]

ISUr finally gets called for a penalty.

[BisonFan02]

THERE IT IS! YOU HAVE TO CALL THAT ONE! :D

[Drblankstare]

There's been more, but if they wanna call it tight like that, they need to be consistent on both sides.

I agree and it’s been one sided, but I much prefer for them to eat their whistles

[Lorne_Malvo]

Lmao, and just like that they call an absolute bull**** hit out of bounds

He pushed him when he was a yard out of bounds. Its a fair call.

[TheKingpin28]

Kobe Johnson is a freak of nature. Kid should be playing FBS ball.

[BisonFan02]

Johnson is gonna be a good one.

[TheKingpin28]

What a play by Christian Watson and Trey Lance!

TD

[Drblankstare]

What a brilliant play execution by the Bison offense

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What a play by Christian Watson and Trey Lance!

TD

2nd level blocking was great

[TheKingpin28]

What a brilliant play execution by the Bison offense

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2nd level blocking was great

It's hard to believe that the offense can be better than the defense, but these guys are just making the plays when they need to. The Rams are just a tank of a unit.

[BisonFan02]

The showboating **** needs to stop.

[TheKingpin28]

Another kick out of bounds... xsmhx

[Schism55]

Man that DT #99 Ridgeway for Ill St. is a GD Beast! Only a sophomore. Really impressed by him

[POD Knows]

Get TD play by NDSU but god ****ing damn do not release the ball that close to the goal line. I freaking hate that. What is the point of doing it. Without a couple of stupid penalties on the Bison O this game might be 40 to 3.

[TheKingpin28]

Hendricks should have had the INT.

[BisonFan02]

Sloppy play there

[Lorne_Malvo]

What a defensive mess. Come on NDSU that was laughable. Keystone Cops.
Looked like a TD to me, refs blow it again.

[POD Knows]

God damn it. It seems like bad **** always happens when you don’t get the pick. ****

[Drblankstare]

Looked like a TD to me

[dewey]

That was a really nice run afterthe catch by the Redbird reciever.

Should have been a touchdown.

Dewey

[TheKingpin28]

Killer penalty for the Redbirds with that false start.

[Drblankstare]

That’s why Tutsie plays D and not Wr. Lol

[BisonFan02]

CATCH THE ****ING BALL! xlolx

[TheKingpin28]

That's why they play defense and not offense. xlolx

[Lorne_Malvo]

Damn thats a back breaker for the Red Birds.

[BisonFan02]

Welp.....brutal series of events for ISUr there.

[TheKingpin28]

What a stop by NDSU. It should have been a TD for ISUr (even with the review being incorrect).

[POD Knows]

Omg. Can our D backs catch a ball this game. But nice goal line stance. There could easily be 4 or 5 picks in the game. ISU got screwed on that review. No idea what they saw there

[BisonBacker]

Game over lol

[dewey]

What a great defensive stand by the Bison.

Bad call on the touchdown by the reciever IMHO.

Dewey

[centennial]

Is a QB sneak on the 1 out of fashion now? I mean you can still run from a 4 wide look as well.

[BisonBacker]

Bison just running it down their throats

[Drblankstare]

What a great defensive stand by the Bison.

Bad call on the touchdown by the reciever IMHO.

Dewey

id love to see the angle we didn’t have on the Kvly feed. Looked like a for sure TD from what I saw

[TheKingpin28]

id love to see the angle we didn’t have on the Kvly feed. Looked like a for sure TD from what I saw

On ESPN+, it was TD. Even with these commentators being obvious homers for ISUr, he was in.

[TheKingpin28]

So Coach Entz, time to get Noland in?

[Drblankstare]

Hmm was he down?

[Lorne_Malvo]

He was down but the refs will screw it up.

[BisonBacker]

I thought he was down

[BisonFan02]

He was down but the refs will screw it up.

Probably this.

[Drblankstare]

He was down but the refs will screw it up.
Hard to say after that TD call.

[TheKingpin28]

If Lance is coming back out, it will be overturned.

[BisonFan02]

Wow. xlolx

[Drblankstare]

Gotta feel a little for ISU. Both reviews go against them and they both were super close. Grand scheme it probably doesn’t really matter, this game was over awhile ago

[BisonFan02]

The stripes have had a rough day.....

[centennial]

LOL

[TheKingpin28]

Wow, Kobe has some serious jumping ability.

[dewey]

On ESPN+, it was TD. Even with these commentators being obvious homers for ISUr, he was in.

Agreed.

Dewey

[TheKingpin28]

Wide open in the endzone!

37-3 NDSU

[BisonBacker]

Azz kicking.

[dewey]

Touchdown Bison!

Lance to Ellefson.

37-3 all Bison.

The zebras have been rough on the Redbirds today.

Dewey

[BisonBacker]

Touchdown Bison!

Lance to Ellefson.

37-3 all Bison.

The zebras have been rough on the Redbirds today.

Dewey
Wouldn't have mattered anyway. NDSU clearly the superior team.

[POD Knows]

Touchdown Bison!

Lance to Ellefson.

37-3 all Bison.

The zebras have been rough on the Redbirds today.

Dewey
Pardon me. They missed the call on the TD but that wasn’t a fumble on the Bison. They should have able to score from the one yard line. That is on ISUr. Tough **** as far as I am concerned.

[centennial]

Touchdown Bison!

Lance to Ellefson.

37-3 all Bison.

The zebras have been rough on the Redbirds today.

Dewey

I think that TD was hard to overturn. But I did see an angle that looked like maybe the knee was down, still not enough to overturn. NDSU got a few bad calls too.

[POD Knows]

OMFG. That Robinson guy is a freak.

[Schism55]

The stripes have had a rough day.....
That's putting it mildly xeyebrowx

[caribbeanhen]

Azz kicking.

we are shocked

[Lorne_Malvo]

Zeb is in.

[BisonFan02]

Backup QB time.

[BisonFan02]

Come on....punch this one in. :D

[Lorne_Malvo]

I suppose the haters want NDSU to take knees from here on out so not to look "classless".

NDSU shows pity on ILST. To me thats a bigger insult.

[TheKingpin28]

So is this where other team's fans get mad at NDSU for still trying to score when the backups are in? xcoffeex

[BisonFan02]

Kick the FG! 40 sounds better.

[BisonFan02]

****ing weak. xlolx

[Bison56]

I think I'm in love.

[dewey]

Great win for NDSU today.

Trey Lance was named player of the game by the Redbird announcers.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

34 point victory and the game wasn’t that close. The Bison are tough as hell on the road.

[X-Factor]

I suppose the haters want NDSU to take knees from here on out so not to look "classless".

NDSU shows pity on ILST. To me thats a bigger insult.


But I thought the Bison never play on the road? If only NDSU had to play on the road for once instead of always playing in their comfy Fargodome!

[uni88]

So is this where other team's fans get mad at NDSU for still trying to score when the backups are in? xcoffeexHow did they score? A flea flicker? Fumblerooski? Statue of Liberty? Or maybe the good old incomplete backward pass?

I have no problem with the bison backups scoring but there's no need to get cute trying to do it.

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[caribbeanhen]

So is this where other team's fans get mad at NDSU for still trying to score when the backups are in? xcoffeex

No not at all, but many are starting to see what the Bison really are, it has taken way to long...... once you beat Oregon next year maybe the FBS will come calling or at least Alabama

[MR. CHICKEN]

....SO FAR.......DELAWARE....HAS SCORED MORE....ON BIZONSSSS.......22 PTS........TOO BAD OURAH MIGHTY MOUSE QB......OWN-LAH PLAYED IN 2nd HALF..............BRAWK!

[TheKingpin28]

No not at all, but many are starting to see what the Bison really are, it has taken way to long...... once you beat Oregon next year maybe the FBS will come calling or at least Alabama

Alabama said no to us. IIRC, Klieman mentioned it to the media.

[POD Knows]

....SO FAR.......DELAWARE....HAS SCORED MORE....ON BIZONSSSS.......22 PTS........TOO BAD OURAH MIGHTY MOUSE QB......OWN-LAH PLAYED IN 2nd HALF..............BRAWK!You would have scored less if he had started because they would have game planned him differently. Don't doubt it.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Some thoughts after this game:


Nice crowd yesterday for the game. The tailgate starts blocks before the stadium and it was fun chatting with Redbird fans. Wish the BB arena was open, I guess the lower bowl is getting renovated.

First of all, the Redbird team last year in the FD was better than this one. Are the Bison that good or was ISU overrated? After watching the Bison curb stomp ISU, IMO they are that good. The Bison OL did a very good job in pass protection and run blocking. Lance is a stud and is only a RFR...xlolx NDSU defense is getting better every game.

If the Bison play like this the rest of the season, no one is beating them.

ISU is a good team but Davis is not the answer. Robinson was a one man show but needs a passing game to complement his running.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Hey Redbird 4th and short: Since you are the only Redbird fan that posts on here fairly consistently, what is your impression of this game?

Your defense didn't impress me at all. Either NDSU is that good or the Redbirds are way over rated.

Robinson is a stud but Davis is not the answer at QB.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Defense was actually ok other than a few big breakdowns. If you break down the game into the first 8 drives, NDSU only averaged 30 yards per drive ... granted 2 drives were short field after our fumble on 1st drive and then the big kick return. But you also got the 53 yard run and 35 yard pass. So it wasn't like you were marching up and down the field when building the 23-3 lead. It wasn't till game was over on your last 3 drives where you averaged 70 yards per drive that we actually collapsed. Until then, it was big plays or bad field position .. IMO.

Offensively, Davis had weak game and got cae of happy feet at times, but I thought he at least gutted it out in a bad game. You needed to see how badly he played our first 3 games to appreciate my point there. But we did not help our defense much at all the entire game which showed on the last 3 drives. The. WR fumble on the 1st drive set some of the tone for the game given we were missing our top 2 receivers and how skittish we are in our pass game.

Bad day at the office... we're better than we showed this week. And back to my point in Brady who I have ripped harder than most on Redbird Forum ... he had very good game against NAU and he threw with much more conviction against Bison than he showed the first 3 games. Weak as he played, I wont be surprised if he bounces right back and keeps building on his game. Not just Redbird koolaid talking there ... he's been humbled into reality. I think this will help him the rest of the way. He'll still struggle for consistency but I like where his head is at finally ... we'll see.

But do not write off our defense. I know its better than scoreboard suggested.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Defense was actually ok other than a few big breakdowns. If you break down the game into the first 8 drives, NDSU only averaged 30 yards per drive ... granted 2 drives were short field after our fumble on 1st drive and then the big kick return. But you also got the 53 yard run and 35 yard pass. So it wasn't like you were marching up and down the field when building the 23-3 lead. It wasn't till game was over on your last 3 drives where you averaged 70 yards per drive that we actually collapsed. Until then, it was big plays or bad field position .. IMO.

Offensively, Davis had weak game and got cae of happy feet at times, but I thought he at least gutted it out in a bad game. You needed to see how badly he played our first 3 games to appreciate my point there. But we did not help our defense much at all the entire game which showed on the last 3 drives. The. WR fumble on the 1st drive set some of the tone for the game given we were missing our top 2 receivers and how skittish we are in our pass game.

Bad day at the office... we're better than we showed this week. And back to my point in Brady who I have ripped harder than most on Redbird Forum ... he had very good game against NAU and he threw with much more conviction against Bison than he showed the first 3 games. Weak as he played, I wont be surprised if he bounces right back and keeps building on his game. Not just Redbird koolaid talking there ... he's been humbled into reality. I think this will help him the rest of the way. He'll still struggle for consistency but I like where his head is at finally ... we'll see.



But do not write off our defense. I know its better than scoreboard suggested.

Meant to say .. you guys game planned and executed very well for us. And the fumble on first drive by our top back up WR did not help the offense's confidence to start the game. Again, we're better than that score and game indicated. Basic snowball effect against a very well prepared team.