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DFW HOYA
September 22nd, 2019, 03:26 PM
Ivy
6
2
0.750


CAA
21
14
0.600


MVC
20
17
0.541


OVC
16
19
0.457


Southland
13
16
0.448


Big Sky
20
28
0.417


SoCon
10
14
0.417


MEAC
12
17
0.414


Pioneer
12
19
0.387


NEC
10
17
0.370


Big South
11
19
0.367


SWAC
8
19
0.296


Patriot
4
20
0.167

Go Lehigh TU Owl
September 22nd, 2019, 03:31 PM
Ivy
6
2
0.750


CAA
21
14
0.600


MVC
20
17
0.541


OVC
16
19
0.457


Southland
13
16
0.448


Big Sky
20
28
0.417


SoCon
10
14
0.417


MEAC
12
17
0.414


Pioneer
12
19
0.387


NEC
10
17
0.370


Big South
11
19
0.367


SWAC
8
19
0.296


Patriot
4
20
0.167




There should be certain requirements that leagues must meet in order to keep their auto-bid. The PL flat out does not deserve one right now. The regression of the league since it moved to scholarships is beyond shocking.

Catbooster
September 22nd, 2019, 03:37 PM
IMO, this would be more interesting if the FBS games were not included. And D-II/NAIA/Etc. were not included. Just FCS vs FCS. It would still potentially be misleading since the strength of FCS opponents varies greatly.

ElCid
September 22nd, 2019, 03:47 PM
What OOC games are you including in this? Because it is not correct for the SOCON. If including all games, FBS, Lower division, it is 11-15.

Mocs123
September 22nd, 2019, 03:56 PM
I think the real tell is looking at FCS games only. I don't count D2 wins, nor do I look at FBS games. Sure there are upsets, like The Citadel over Georgia Tech, but for the most part the money games are just that. Of course NDSU is differnt as they are playing at FBS level in FCS and have won so many "money games" I'm not sure you could call them upsets any more.

ElCid
September 22nd, 2019, 04:02 PM
Ivy
6
2
0.750


CAA
21
14
0.600


MVC
20
17
0.541


OVC
16
19
0.457


Southland
13
16
0.448


Big Sky
20
28
0.417


SoCon
10
14
0.417


MEAC
12
17
0.414


Pioneer
12
19
0.387


NEC
10
17
0.370


Big South
11
19
0.367


SWAC
8
19
0.296


Patriot
4
20
0.167




Here is what Massey has. I guess the discrepancy on a couple are the OOC conference games(?), but ours is definitely wrong on yours. Tried to make picture bigger, but it just won't do it.

Big SKy 20-26
Southern 11-15
MEAC 11-17
SWAC 8-20

Others are same.



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ElCid
September 22nd, 2019, 04:05 PM
I think the real tell is looking at FCS games only. I don't count D2 wins, nor do I look at FBS games. Sure there are upsets, like The Citadel over Georgia Tech, but for the most part the money games are just that. Of course NDSU is differnt as they are playing at FBS level in FCS and have won so many "money games" I'm not sure you could call them upsets any more.

Yeah, I did it for kicks and grins for SOCON.

11-15 overall, all games
8-15 DIV I only
7-10 FCS only

Mocs123
September 22nd, 2019, 06:01 PM
Four of the SoCon OOC games have been against top 15 teams.