2019 AAF Thread

[bonarae]

The inaugural season of the Alliance of American Football is now on. Discuss anything about the new outdoor league here... xcoffeex

[ngineer]

Read in the paper today that one of their experimental rules is doing away with all kick offs. Teams start at the 25. However, if after a TD a team wants to go for an "onsides kick", now they will run a play from their own 28 yard line, and it will be effectively "4th down and 12". If they make the first down, they got the ball where downed. If defense holds, they get the ball.

[JSUSoutherner]

Read in the paper today that one of their experimental rules is doing away with all kick offs. Teams start at the 25. However, if after a TD a team wants to go for an "onsides kick", now they will run a play from their own 28 yard line, and it will be effectively "4th down and 12". If they make the first down, they got the ball where downed. If defense holds, they get the ball.

That's a solid twist. That's a solid replacement IMO. I'll be eager to see how it works out.

Is punting remaining unchanged?

[dgtw]

Any other rule twists?


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[FUBeAR]

Atlanta Legend FCS (Current & recent FCS Teams) Players...

Offense
Name Position Height Weight School
Peter Pujals QB 6-2 212 Holy Cross
Montay Crockett WR 5-11 189 Georgia Southern
*Malachi Jones WR 6-2 214 Appalachian State
Garrett Hudson TE 6-4 244 Richmond
**Matthew Schmidt OL 6-3 300 Furman

Defense
Name Position Height Weight School
Khalil Bass LB 6-0 228 Portland State
Tyson Graham, Jr. DB 6-2 209 South Dakota
Carlos Merritt DB 6-0 185 Campbell

Special Teams
Name Position Height Weight School
Cameron Nizialek P 6-2 199 Columbia
Younghoe Koo K 5-10 182 Georgia Southern

* Grew up across the street from FUBeAR & was on 6th-8th grade Teams FUBeAR Coached
** Trying to get him to marry FUBeAR’s daughter. How could she do any better than a former Furman OLman hailing from NC? BTW - his Dad was a SDSU Bunny (DB) a few years back.

Yep - I’m pretty interested in this AAF thing...

[Bisonator]

Watched a little of the SD at SA game Saturday night. Wasn't the greatest game but kind of liked some of the new ideas they are trying out. The Sky judge was interesting to see how they go thru the review process. Hopefully the games get a little better as they play more.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I watched San Antonio-San Diego Saturday night and Arizona-Salt Lake City last night. Overall, I thought it was a decent product with a lot of familiar names. IMO, football desperately needs a legit feeder/development league outside of college. I actually hope it gains traction.

[Bisonator]

The one problem I see is the QB position. Let's face it there are not 32 quality QB's for all the NFL teams so the QB play was really pretty bad IMO. I wonder if there would be some way to get some NFL backups into this league. I suppose the risk wouldn't be worth the rewards but if a guy like Philly's Sudfeld played in this league and showed well he might increase his chances of getting a shot to start somewhere in the NFL. Plus Philly could use that to increase his trade value too.

[Reign of Terrier]

Atlanta Legend FCS (Current & recent FCS Teams) Players...

Offense
Name Position Height Weight School
Peter Pujals QB 6-2 212 Holy Cross
Montay Crockett WR 5-11 189 Georgia Southern
*Malachi Jones WR 6-2 214 Appalachian State
Garrett Hudson TE 6-4 244 Richmond
**Matthew Schmidt OL 6-3 300 Furman

Defense
Name Position Height Weight School
Khalil Bass LB 6-0 228 Portland State
Tyson Graham, Jr. DB 6-2 209 South Dakota
Carlos Merritt DB 6-0 185 Campbell

Special Teams
Name Position Height Weight School
Cameron Nizialek P 6-2 199 Columbia
Younghoe Koo K 5-10 182 Georgia Southern

* Grew up across the street from FUBeAR & was on 6th-8th grade Teams FUBeAR Coached
** Trying to get him to marry FUBeAR’s daughter. How could she do any better than a former Furman OLman hailing from NC? BTW - his Dad was a SDSU Bunny (DB) a few years back.

Yep - I’m pretty interested in this AAF thing...

Atlanta's punter may be listed as a Georgia Alum, but he was Wofford's kicker for 3 years.

And I like the league. Don't expect it to be a competitor to the NFL, but a complement. It's basically the minor league. Low stakes, sporadic quality, so-so talent, but entertaining enough to open a cold one on a Saturday afternoon in Spring. Some of the games were not good, but these teams have been together for like a month.

Currently, I'm showing preference for teams based on jerseys and success. Spurrier made me interested in the Apollos (a dumb name), but I like the uniforms for the Birmingham Iron and San Antonio Commanders.

I will be watching these games, whenever I can.

[FUBeAR]

Atlanta's punter may be listed as a Georgia Alum, but he was Wofford's kicker for 3 years.

And I like the league. Don't expect it to be a competitor to the NFL, but a complement. It's basically the minor league. Low stakes, sporadic quality, so-so talent, but entertaining enough to open a cold one on a Saturday afternoon in Spring. Some of the games were not good, but these teams have been together for like a month.

Currently, I'm showing preference for teams based on jerseys and success. Spurrier made me interested in the Apollos (a dumb name), but I like the uniforms for the Birmingham Iron and San Antonio Commanders.

I will be watching these games, whenever I can.David Marvin, who was a STAR Kicker and Punter at Wofford, is not on the Atlanta Legends Roster, YT. I don’t know if he is on another AAF Team or not.

Marvin did the Grad Transfer thing to UGA in 2017 for his final year. He kicked off twice there & was perfect on FG’s...1 for 1, a 19 yarder to close out the scoring in a 41-0 UGa win late in the 4th quarter @ Tennessee.

In an interesting twist, the Punter on the Legends’ Roster is listed as being from Columbia U., but he ‘split time’ as the Punter there. So, he also did the Grad Transfer thing to Georgia, also in 2017...and he was the Dawgs starting Punter with 61 punts for a nice 45.0 yard average.

https://twitter.com/camnizguy/status/1094778769217409024?s=21

[Laker]

The one problem I see is the QB position. Let's face it there are not 32 quality QB's for all the NFL teams so the QB play was really pretty bad IMO. I wonder if there would be some way to get some NFL backups into this league. I suppose the risk wouldn't be worth the rewards but if a guy like Philly's Sudfeld played in this league and showed well he might increase his chances of getting a shot to start somewhere in the NFL. Plus Philly could use that to increase his trade value too.

Kaepernick could try out............

[Bisonoline]

Kaepernick could try out............

xlolx

[dgtw]

The one problem I see is the QB position. Let's face it there are not 32 quality QB's for all the NFL teams so the QB play was really pretty bad IMO. I wonder if there would be some way to get some NFL backups into this league. I suppose the risk wouldn't be worth the rewards but if a guy like Philly's Sudfeld played in this league and showed well he might increase his chances of getting a shot to start somewhere in the NFL. Plus Philly could use that to increase his trade value too.

Getting true backups in the league would help. Assuming most teams have at least two under contract, that 64 or so the AAFL can’t touch. Probably more if you include the taxi squad guys.


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[PantherRob82]

https://www.cbssports.com/aaf/news/aaf-2019-rosters-heres-a-look-at-every-player-for-all-eight-teams-in-the-alliance-of-american-football/

Looks like there are about 45 FCS players on the rosters

[Gil Dobie]

https://www.cbssports.com/aaf/news/aaf-2019-rosters-heres-a-look-at-every-player-for-all-eight-teams-in-the-alliance-of-american-football/

Looks like there are about 45 FCS players on the rosters

Are you still playing?

[FUBeAR]

https://www.cbssports.com/aaf/news/aaf-2019-rosters-heres-a-look-at-every-player-for-all-eight-teams-in-the-alliance-of-american-football/

Looks like there are about 45 FCS players on the rosters

Found 49 Players from Current FCS Teams and 9 from Former/Recent FCS - sorted by School



COLLEGE
FCS/Former
NAME
AAF Team
POS
#


Alabama State
FCS
Brandon Barnes
Memphis
TE
80


Albany
FCS
Anthony Manzo-Lewis
Memphis
RB
49


Austin Peay
FCS
Malik Boynton
Memphis
DB
23


Bethune Cookman
FCS
Ryan Davis Sr.
Orlando
LB
95


Campbell
FCS
Carlos Merritt
Atlanta
DB
20


Charleston Southern
FCS
Charles James, II
Memphis
DB
24


Columbia
FCS
Cameron Nizialek
Atlanta
P
9


Dartmouth
FCS
Jack Heneghan
Arizona
QB
11


Duquesne
FCS
Larson Graham
Birmingham
OT
62


Fordham
FCS
Kevin Anderson
Orlando
QB
4


Furman
FCS
Matthew Schmidt
Atlanta
OL
62


Hampton
FCS
Justin Williams
San Diego
CB
24


Holy Cross
FCS
Peter Pujal
Atlanta
QB
6


Idaho
FCS
Austin Rehkow
Salt Lake
P
5


Idaho
FCS
Matt Linehan
Salt Lake
QB
10


Incarnate Word
FCS
Joseph Zema
San Antonio
P
6


Jackson State
FCS
Brandon Maiden
Memphis
DB
28


James Madison
FCS
Andrew Ankrah
Orlando
LB
55


James Madison
FCS
Ishmael Hyman
Orlando
WR
13


Maine
FCS
Kendall James
San Diego
DB
37


Monmouth
FCS
Alex Thompson
Arizona
OG
68


Monmouth
FCS
Darnell Leslie
San Antonio
LB
51


Montana
FCS
Tyrone Holmes
San Antonio
LB
58


New Hampshire
FCS
Andrew Lauderdale
Arizona
OT
76


North Dakota State
FCS
C.J. Smith
Salt Lake
DB
35


Northern Arizona
FCS
Siupeli Anau
Arizona
DT
93


Northern Iowa
FCS
Elijah Campbell
Birmingham
DB
35


Portland State
FCS
Khalil Bass
Atlanta
LB
52


Richmond
FCS
Garrett Hudson
Atlanta
TE
87


Richmond
FCS
Winston Craig
San Antonio
DT
96


Richmond
FCS
Brian Brown
San Diego
WR
83


Samford
FCS
Shaheed Salmon
Birmingham
LB
56


South Dakota
FCS
Tyson Graham Jr
Atlanta
DB
32


South Dakota State
FCS
Jacob Ohnesorge
Arizona
C
62


Southeast Missouri State
FCS
Aaron Adeoye
Birmingham
DE
58


Southeastern Louisiana
FCS
Sione Teuhema
Arizona
LB
54


Southern
FCS
Arthur Miley
San Antonio
DL
93


Stony Brook
FCS
Connor Davis
Birmingham
TE
88


Tennessee State
FCS
Anthony Morris
Memphis
OT
77


Tennessee State
FCS
Demetrius Rhaney
Memphis
C
65


Tennessee State
FCS
Jessamen Dunker
Memphis
OG
66


Tennessee State
FCS
Robert Myers
Memphis
OG
70


Tennessee State
FCS
Terrell Bonds
Memphis
DB
21


Tennessee Tech
FCS
Dontez Byrd
Memphis
WR
18


Tennessee-Martin
FCS
Montori Hughes
Memphis
DT
95


UC-Davis
FCS
Colton Schmidt
Birmingham
P
2


UT-Chattanooga
FCS
Davis Tull
Memphis
LB
55


Villanova
FCS
Ed Shockley
Salt Lake
LB
52


William & Mary
FCS
Jerome Couplin III
Orlando
DB
21










Appalachian State
Former FCS
Malachi Jones
Atlanta
WR
14


Appalachian State
Former FCS
Kennan Gilchrist
San Antonio
LB
50


Appalachian State
Former FCS
Beau Nunn
San Diego
OT
67


Coastal Carolina
Former FCS
Alex Ross
San Diego
QB
4


Georgia Southern
Former FCS
Montay Crockett
Atlanta
WR
13


Georgia Southern
Former FCS
Younghoe Koo
Atlanta
K
7


Liberty
Former FCS
Jacob Hagen
Birmingham
DB
27


Liberty
Former FCS
Josh Woodrum
Salt Lake
QB
6


Old Dominion
Former FCS
Olubunmi Rotimi
Arizona
DE
94

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

The league almost ran out of money before week 2. xeekx xsmhx

https://www.sbnation.com/2019/2/19/18231414/aaf-nearly-ran-out-of-money-week-2-250-million-investment

[PAllen]

Honestly, I don't like the television model. I mentioned the league this weekend a and my kids wanted to check out a game. Paying for Netflix, Hulu and a Comcast subscription at the beach, the best we could have done is drive to my Mom's house to watch the game. So, instead of the AAF capturing the up and coming generation of fans, we found something else to do.

[Reign of Terrier]

I like the AAF. It's pretty fun for what you'd expect of a development league.

[bonarae]

Uh oh. They will fold too soon... xbawlingx

https://fbschedules.com/report-alliance-of-american-football-could-fold-as-early-as-this-week/

[Bisonator]

How do you start something like this without enough funding to complete the first season? Just mind boggling how these supposedly smart people can **** up so badly.xconfusedx

[Reign of Terrier]

How do you start something like this without enough funding to complete the first season? Just mind boggling how these supposedly smart people can **** up so badly.xconfusedx

Their end game was to be the minor league equivalent for the NFL. There was no way they would be solvent without that. Because the NFLPA is playing hardball that can't come into fruition.

Between competing with playoff NBA, March Madness and the opening week of MLB, there was no way this business model was going to work by revenue from ticket sales and marketing by itself. They need/needed heavy subsidy from the NFL, which they were kind of getting from owners like Jerry Jones (they moved their championship game from Las Vegas to a nice Cowboys indoor arena that sits about 20k, I think). But the NFLPA isn't budging yet.

[Bisonator]

I don't understand what the NFLPA has to do with not being able to fund your organization. They have players to field teams. They should have had the finances in place to complete a full season at least before even starting this thing. Somebody didn't think this all the way thru or put the cart in front of the horse. Apparently Bill Polian found out he needed more NFL backing then he got.

[PAllen]

How do you start a development league without the ability to have development players?

[Reign of Terrier]

How do you start a development league without the ability to have development players?

Exactly. It's a high risk for players to participate. Management loves it and would subsidize it if it developed players (see: Jerry Jones). But the NFLPA isn't about that right now.

[JayJ79]

Exactly. It's a high risk for players to participate. Management loves it and would subsidize it if it developed players (see: Jerry Jones). But the NFLPA isn't about that right now.
imagine that, the NFLPA looking out for the interest of the players instead of the owners/management.

[Reign of Terrier]

imagine that, the NFLPA looking out for the interest of the players instead of the owners/management.

I'm not saying it's good or bad, just that's how it is.

AAF would be really good for quarterback development, but not for many other positions.

[bonarae]

AAF formally suspends operations...

https://fbschedules.com/alliance-of-american-football-suspends-operations/

[PAllen]

Never saw a game. The few times I went looking to watch, it wasn't available without some sort of special paid subscription beyond what I normally pay. Oh well. Never invest in the minor leagues. Even when they survive, they don't make money.

[Laker]

Steve Spurrier proclaimed his team as champions since they were leading the league when it folded.

No word yet if they get invited to the White House.

[Reign of Terrier]

Apparently the long game was to get the AAF to slide in when the NFL renegotiated the CBA in 2020 but some of the league owners wanted to do it sooner (which would weaken their negotiating position) and that disagreement is what dissolved the league.

[bonarae]

Hmm... The fire is burning brighter...

The AAF claims to have defrauded and misled players... xconfusedx

https://deadspin.com/lawsuit-claims-the-aaf-intentionally-misled-and-defraud-1833959393?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=deadspin_copy&utm_campaign=top

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[bonarae]

How this league collapsed in due time...

https://www.sbnation.com/2019/4/3/18293514/aaf-collapse-explained-tom-dundon-charlie-ebersol-bill-polian

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