2019 MLB Thread

[bonarae]

This is the 2019 edition of the MLB thread here on AGS. Post anything MLB-related here... xcoffeex

[caribbeanhen]

will the Phils sign

Harper
Machando
both
or

none of the above....

[PaladinFan]

will the Phils sign

Harper
Machando
both
or

none of the above....

Will anybody sign anybody is probably a better question.

[TheKingpin28]

The AL is going to, once again, be a bloodbath where there is another likely 100 game Wild Card team.

[ngineer]

Phils meeting with Harper, wife and Boras reportedly went very well. "Good vibes" allegedly detected. We'll see how well the payroll gets massaged.

[PaladinFan]

The AL is going to, once again, be a bloodbath where there is another likely 100 game Wild Card team.

Interestingly, at least one writer suggested that the AL is actually weaker than the NL on the whole, despite having a few teams with a dominant record.

Theory being, the AL has a few clubs with inflated records because the league, on balance, has a weaker bottom. For instance, the Red Sox were 16-3 against Baltimore last year, who finished with only 47 wins.

[TheKingpin28]

Interestingly, at least one writer suggested that the AL is actually weaker than the NL on the whole, despite having a few teams with a dominant record.

Theory being, the AL has a few clubs with inflated records because the league, on balance, has a weaker bottom. For instance, the Red Sox were 16-3 against Baltimore last year, who finished with only 47 wins.I wouldn't argue with that at all. The parity in the NL is greater than the AL. Outside of, realistically speaking, the Red Sox, Astros, and Yankees, it drops off significantly. In the NL, any team not named the Marlins, Padres, Giants, Mets, and Reds, every team was right around .500 ot better, whereas the AL had 7 teams significantly lower than .500 and 8 teams below the mark. Only 2 teams in the AL missed the playoffs with above .500 records whereas the NL had 4 teams miss it.

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[PaladinFan]

I wouldn't argue with that at all. The parity in the NL is greater than the AL. Outside of, realistically speaking, the Red Sox, Astros, and Yankees, it drops off significantly. In the NL, any team not named the Marlins, Padres, Giants, Mets, and Reds, every team was right around .500 ot better, whereas the AL had 7 teams significantly lower than .500 and 8 teams below the mark. Only 2 teams in the AL missed the playoffs with above .500 records whereas the NL had 4 teams miss it.

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That said, I don't disagree with you.

I think the NL East and AL East are going to be the two divisions to watch this year. Hard to pick a favorite (but not THAT hard)

[PaladinFan]

Phils meeting with Harper, wife and Boras reportedly went very well. "Good vibes" allegedly detected. We'll see how well the payroll gets massaged.

Sounds like the Phillies are in on both Harper and Machado. The pool of interested teams doesn't appear that big (perhaps unsurprising given the price tag).

[ngineer]

That said, I don't disagree with you.

I think the NL East and AL East are going to be the two divisions to watch this year. Hard to pick a favorite (but not THAT hard)

We shall see once the free agent signing dust has settled, but at the moment it appears the Braves, Mets and Phillies are taking 2019 seriously.

[caribbeanhen]

[/B]We shall see once the free agent signing dust has settled, but at the moment it appears the Braves, Mets and Phillies are taking 2019 seriously.

The Nats not that shabby either despite not re-signing Harper (yet) NL East is baseball's best and should be alot of fun

[caribbeanhen]

I know there are several Twins fans on AGS so some of you older ones might remember the Met..... lots of parking

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxZLoeuX0AA1jzY.jpg:large

[ngineer]

I know there are several Twins fans on AGS so some of you older ones might remember the Met..... lots of parking

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxZLoeuX0AA1jzY.jpg:large

I saw Harmon Killebrew hit homers #500 and 501 on the same day back in 1971 while visiting my Aunt and Uncle in MN. Some amazing games, baseball and football in that stadium. The 'original' "Hail Mary" pass was there.

[ngineer]

The Nats not that shabby either despite not re-signing Harper (yet) NL East is baseball's best and should be alot of fun

True. Still early so the 'nats' can still be strong.

There is 'scuttlebutt' that the Phils are already doing the 'calculus' to determine what more they an add this year, and still be able to lure Trout next year. Trout's a South Jersey, "Philly" guy and a huge Iggles fan. I could see some kind of deal for him to finish his career "at home".

[Bisonoline]

I saw Harmon Killebrew hit homers #500 and 501 on the same day back in 1971 while visiting my Aunt and Uncle in MN. Some amazing games, baseball and football in that stadium. The 'original' "Hail Mary" pass was there.

In the late 70s I lived in the cities. Saw Reggie Jackson hit 3 homers in a row.

[caribbeanhen]

In the late 70s I lived in the cities. Saw Reggie Jackson hit 3 homers in a row.

you lived in the Bronx...:D

I remember he hit 3 in a row in the 78 World Series, the third one of knuckleballer Charlie Hough (I think) was a monster shot

[caribbeanhen]

True. Still early so the 'nats' can still be strong.

There is 'scuttlebutt' that the Phils are already doing the 'calculus' to determine what more they an add this year, and still be able to lure Trout next year. Trout's a South Jersey, "Philly" guy and a huge Iggles fan. I could see some kind of deal for him to finish his career "at home".

Yes, his father was a Bluehen as well and was a great hitter, he made it to AA and got injured and his career was over, he would of been a good Major league hitter

[bonarae]

Cooperstown Class of 2019 is pretty strong and in terms of pitching, a well-rounded group.

Mike Mussina
Roy Halladay (+)
Mariano Rivera (Unanimous Selection, a first-ever)
Edgar Martinez
Harold Baines (Today's Game)
Lee Smith (Today's Game)

[Laker]

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[clenz]

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I know there are several Twins fans on AGS so some of you older ones might remember the Met..... lots of parking

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxZLoeuX0AA1jzY.jpg:large

Such an amazing pic! The main structure doesn't extend past the basepads! I know the stadium was ultimately altered quite a bit overtime for football.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Cooperstown Class of 2019 is pretty strong and in terms of pitching, a well-rounded group.

Mike Mussina
Roy Halladay (+)
Mariano Rivera (Unanimous Selection, a first-ever)
Edgar Martinez
Harold Baines (Today's Game)
Lee Smith (Today's Game)

Moose is the pride of Montoursville, PA! Glad to see he finally got in! His son was a QB at Lafayette before transferring to D2 Shippensburg. He was great in 2018!

[Laker]

Such an amazing pic! The main structure doesn't extend past the basepads! I know the stadium was ultimately altered quite a bit overtime for football.

I'm not sure what year this picture was taken. My first game there was in 1965 and it had changed a lot by then. We sat out in the double decked left field seats. And of course today the Mall of America is on this spot.

[PaladinFan]

The Braves make a bit of a surprise move and sign Nick Markakis for $4m. Markakis had a strong 2018 and is a steady, yet unspectacular player. I expect Atlanta will probably try to platoon their OF a good bit this year based on matchups.

Common theory in Braves country is that this is the first domino to fall for Atlanta. Markakis signs for a well below market rate, which leaves cash in the drawer for the Braves to make more moves. To this point, Alex Anthopolous has still yet to dive into his deep pool of minor league talent.

[cx500d]

I know there are several Twins fans on AGS so some of you older ones might remember the Met..... lots of parking

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxZLoeuX0AA1jzY.jpg:large

This is the way I remembered it looking with the crazy colored panels facing Cedar Avenue. The Mall of America sits on this spot now.
https://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/met13953.jpg

This shows the old Met Center in the upper right corner, where the Dallas North Stars used to play (also saw some concerts and High School Basketball tourney's there)

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/aerial-photograph-of-metropolitan-stadium-during-a-minnesota-twins-picture-id72631730

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

This is the way I remembered it looking with the crazy colored panels facing Cedar Avenue. The Mall of America sits on this spot now.
https://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/met13953.jpg

This shows the old Met Center in the upper right corner, where the Dallas North Stars used to play (also saw some concerts and High School Basketball tourney's there)

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/aerial-photograph-of-metropolitan-stadium-during-a-minnesota-twins-picture-id72631730

The last pic is how I commonly remember it.

Look at all those campers/RVs for a baseball game!! That's crazy!!

[Gil Dobie]

I saw Harmon Killebrew hit homers #500 and 501 on the same day back in 1971 while visiting my Aunt and Uncle in MN. Some amazing games, baseball and football in that stadium. The 'original' "Hail Mary" pass was there.

If you still have the ticket stub and/or program and are willing to sell, please let me know.

[Gil Dobie]

Such an amazing pic! The main structure doesn't extend past the basepads! I know the stadium was ultimately altered quite a bit overtime for football.

The Minneapolis Millers originally played there, with players like Orlando Cepeda and Carl Yastrzemski.

I have a couple folding chairs from the Met, probably used for the Beatles concert and more.

[cx500d]

The last pic is how I commonly remember it.

Look at all those campers/RVs for a baseball game!! That's crazy!!

The picture source said it was taken during "Camper Day" - they probably get a free cup of Schmidt beer if they came in a camper or something.

[Laker]

This is the way I remembered it looking with the crazy colored panels facing Cedar Avenue. The Mall of America sits on this spot now.


This shows the old Met Center in the upper right corner, where the Dallas North Stars used to play (also saw some concerts and High School Basketball tourney's there)



To me it looked like an Erector Set. Saw so many games there- Twins- Vikings-Kicks.
Same with the Met- North Stars and HS tourneys. Too young to watch the Muskies or Pipers there. I think that the Gophers even played NIT games there.

[ngineer]

If you still have the ticket stub and/or program and are willing to sell, please let me know.

Hah! I will check my little chest I keep old stuff like that, but doubt I will still have it. I do remember everyone in the stands got a commemorative beer mug (plastic). My Uncle always liked to say whenever Killebrew knocked one, that the pitch "..got in "Harm's Way"! Aluding to an old WWII movie starring John Wayne and Patricia Neal.

[cx500d]

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That was a thrilling world series.

[PaladinFan]

Even Tim McCarver saw what happened. Tim McCarver is a fool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiraekmCNv4

What's more likely - the incredibly athletic Ron Gant overran the bag or Hrbek fell grabbed him? Bear in mind that Hrbeck's footwork and positioning on that play are all wrong. He's receiving an infield throw from behind first base for whatever reason.

Granted, had Gant just gone back in head first he would have been more safe than he already was.

I don't think Hrbeck did it intentionally. It was the wrong call, though.

[Gil Dobie]

Hah! I will check my little chest I keep old stuff like that, but doubt I will still have it. I do remember everyone in the stands got a commemorative beer mug (plastic). My Uncle always liked to say whenever Killebrew knocked one, that the pitch "..got in "Harm's Way"! Aluding to an old WWII movie starring John Wayne and Patricia Neal.

There's a lot of those mugs around the Twin Cities. People were waiting and waiting for Killer to hit #500.

[Gil Dobie]

Even Tim McCarver saw what happened. Tim McCarver is a fool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiraekmCNv4

What's more likely - the incredibly athletic Ron Gant overran the bag or Hrbek fell grabbed him? Bear in mind that Hrbeck's footwork and positioning on that play are all wrong. He's receiving an infield throw from behind first base for whatever reason.

Granted, had Gant just gone back in head first he would have been more safe than he already was.

I don't think Hrbeck did it intentionally. It was the wrong call, though.

The video clearly shows it's exactly how Hrbek describes it.

"I just kept the tag on him and I knew he was going to fall off the bag."

[PaladinFan]

The video clearly shows it's exactly how Hrbek describes it.

"I just kept the tag on him and I knew he was going to fall off the bag."

Yeah, he fell off the bag because Hrbek's tag was a single leg takedown.

[Bisonoline]

Yeah, he fell off the bag because Hrbek's tag was a single leg takedown.

Never miss leg day.

[Laker]

Since we were talking about Met Stadium. I was there on Christmas Day 1971 when the Vikings lost to Dallas.

Originally built only for baseball by the New York Giants for their then minor league AAA affiliate, the Minneapolis Millers. The Giants were expected to move to Minnesota and play at the Met, which by then had already expanded its seating. But they ended up going with the Dodgers to California. The Vikings shared the Met with the original Washington Nationals/Senators (they were known by both names over their history) who moved to Minnesota to become the Twins. Both football teams were on the same sideline because of the configuration to fit the FB field in the baseball design, the 1st base seats were the ones closest to the sideline... on the other side (where the teams were) there was a big gap between the seats there (what was the left field seats for baseball) and the sideline.

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[Bisonoline]

Since we were talking about Met Stadium. I was there on Christmas Day 1971 when the Vikings lost to Dallas.

Originally built only for baseball by the New York Giants for their then minor league AAA affiliate, the Minneapolis Millers. The Giants were expected to move to Minnesota and play at the Met, which by then had already expanded its seating. But they ended up going with the Dodgers to California. The Vikings shared the Met with the original Washington Nationals/Senators (they were known by both names over their history) who moved to Minnesota to become the Twins. Both football teams were on the same sideline because of the configuration to fit the FB field in the baseball design, the 1st base seats were the ones closest to the sideline... on the other side (where the teams were) there was a big gap between the seats there (what was the left field seats for baseball) and the sideline.

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46496093_10158098733697516_6787068025930514432_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=d690fbe6172e744aeb73a8ca0b6485fa&oe=5CF1D9E4

My dad and I were there in 1969 when they played the Browns for the championship. It was cold.

[Laker]

My dad and I were there in 1969 when they played the Browns for the championship. It was cold.

I was snowmobiling that day since they wouldn't televise home games. Darn cold- I was a sophomore so I was still stupid. Cleveland had a d-lineman who almost lost his fingers from having them in a three point stance.

The game the week before with LA was a classic- and that wasn't on TV either. We went to Hector to watch Ice Station Zebra and saw the highlights when we got back home.

Few people know how close the New York baseball Giants were to coming to Minnesota. I blame the Dodgers for that.

[grizband]

I was snowmobiling that day since they wouldn't televise home games. Darn cold- I was a sophomore so I was still stupid. Cleveland had a d-lineman who almost lost his fingers from having them in a three point stance.

The game the week before with LA was a classic- and that wasn't on TV either. We went to Hector to watch Ice Station Zebra and saw the highlights when we got back home.

Few people know how close the New York baseball Giants were to coming to Minnesota. I blame the Dodgers for that.
I'm a fan of the San Francisco Giants, and I learned something new today!

[Laker]

I'm a fan of the San Francisco Giants, and I learned something new today!

xthumbsupx

[Gil Dobie]

The 1975 Dallas game, Staubach's famous hail mary to Drew Pearson, on the catch before, Pearson caught the ball and landed out of bounds. My buddy Dick, as seen in the video, goes over and gives Pearson a sissy kick, and he admits it was a sissy kick. Got him suspended as an usher for 1.5 years.

The play starts around the 1.35 mark of the video. Still laugh when I watch it. He had a photo-op and autograph signing with Pearson a couple years ago, both were great. Not so much for Nate Wright, who would not show because he's still made at Pearson for the alleged Pass Interference on the Hail Mary. Click on Watch Youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEZKpY8t4EQ

[TheKingpin28]

Sounds like Harper to the Phillies is a done deal.

[PaladinFan]

Sounds like Harper to the Phillies is a done deal.

Not sure where you've seen that reported. As best I can tell there's interest.

[TheKingpin28]

Not sure where you've seen that reported. As best I can tell there's interest.Well I saw multiple photos of ESPN having the "Bryce Harper signs with Phillies" image up and waiting to plug in as well as other places.

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[PaladinFan]

Well I saw multiple photos of ESPN having the "Bryce Harper signs with Phillies" image up and waiting to plug in as well as other places.

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This isn't reporting, but it seems like a lot of that was fake news. https://deadspin.com/today-was-somehow-the-stupidest-day-yet-in-the-bryce-ha-1832171487

[MR. CHICKEN]

Well I saw multiple photos of ESPN having the "Bryce Harper signs with Phillies" image up and waiting to plug in as well as other places.

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.......NOT UH DONE DEAL.......TIL.....IT'S UH DONE DEAL............EVERAH NEWS REPORTIN' SITE......IS LOCKED AN' LOADED........WHIFF BIO'S....FO' DUH NEXT FAMOUS ACTOR/ROCK STAR/FORMER PRES......WHOM CONKS........READY TA AIR........AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT..............BRAWK!

[ngineer]

.......NOT UH DONE DEAL.......TIL.....IT'S UH DONE DEAL............EVERAH NEWS REPORTIN' SITE......IS LOCKED AN' LOADED........WHIFF BIO'S....FO' DUH NEXT FAMOUS ACTOR/ROCK STAR/FORMER PRES......WHOM CONKS........READY TA AIR........AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT..............BRAWK!

I can just imagine the bio images they have locked and loaded for you! Brawk! (;-)

[MR. CHICKEN]

I can just imagine the bio images they have locked and loaded for you! Brawk! (;-)

....WHEN DUH BIG BIRD GOES.......IT'LL BE..........LIKE.......BAH WAY....UH.....DUH PHOONE BOOFF..........O'.....CASHIN' YER CHECK ON....FRIDAY NIGHT........O'....ACTUALLAH......DOIN' YER OWN PARKIN' .......'TWEEN........TWO OTHERAH RIDES.........MAYBEAH....AH PEN MAH OWN OBIT......SOMEDAY........WHENCE EVERAH....YOUSE KNUCKLE-DRAGGERAHS........START TA....MAKE ME YAWN....:p..........AWK!

[TheKingpin28]

This isn't reporting, but it seems like a lot of that was fake news. https://deadspin.com/today-was-somehow-the-stupidest-day-yet-in-the-bryce-ha-1832171487


.......NOT UH DONE DEAL.......TIL.....IT'S UH DONE DEAL............EVERAH NEWS REPORTIN' SITE......IS LOCKED AN' LOADED........WHIFF BIO'S....FO' DUH NEXT FAMOUS ACTOR/ROCK STAR/FORMER PRES......WHOM CONKS........READY TA AIR........AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT..............BRAWK!

That rare moment when I am wrong, and I can admit it, but I am still confident he will sign with them.

[MR. CHICKEN]

That rare moment when I am wrong, and I can admit it, but I am still confident he will sign with them.

......CLASS KINGSTER...xthumbsupx........HOPE YER RIGHT......AS AH'VE ROOTED...FO' DUH PHIGHTIN'S.....SINCE AH WAS 8 YEARS OL'.....AN' WENT TA CONNIE MACK STADIUM.........FO' DUH FIRST TIME.....BRAWK!

[TheKingpin28]

......CLASS KINGSTER...xthumbsupx........HOPE YER RIGHT......AS AH'VE ROOTED...FO' DUH PHIGHTIN'S.....SINCE AH WAS 8 YEARS OL'.....AN' WENT TA CONNIE MACK STADIUM.........FO' DUH FIRST TIME.....BRAWK!A good friend is a Phillies fan and he wants/needs something to cheer for and something along these lines would do wonders for the fansbase.

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[ngineer]

Harper is so familiar with the scene in Philly, and he should know he can bring the 'juice' the Phillie fans have been yearning for. While the big 'pay day' is utmost, the Phillies are in position to pay what is required. The tipping point for me would be the atmosphere and culture I want to play in for the next 5-10 years.

[PaladinFan]

I think Braves fans are cautiously nervous about what the front office is doing. Atlanta has had a top 5 farm system each of the last 4 or 5 years, and Alex Anthopolous seems incredibly reluctant to part with any top flight assets. Everyone anticipated that Atlanta would make some big moves this offseason, but like with everything else, things are moving slowly.

Some suggest that the absence of peripheral signings (bench bats, filler relievers, etc.) that Atlanta isn't wrapping up their offseason. They seem to be waiting the market out and seeing if prices drop to their liking.

The Bravos are imminently connected to JT Realmuto, but haven't yet wanted to meet Miami's sky high ask. They are supposedly in the market for an ace pitcher, though its anyone's guess who that is. You are also starting to see rumblings of Craig Kimbrel, who might take a hometown discount (he's from Alabama) to come back to Atlanta.

I still think the Braves are going to make a move. Anthopolous keeps things notoriously close to the vest. I get the impression that Atlanta fans will be displeased if the Braves essentially stand pat after numerous reports of revenues ballooning with the new stadium.

[ngineer]

I think Braves fans are cautiously nervous about what the front office is doing. Atlanta has had a top 5 farm system each of the last 4 or 5 years, and Alex Anthopolous seems incredibly reluctant to part with any top flight assets. Everyone anticipated that Atlanta would make some big moves this offseason, but like with everything else, things are moving slowly.

Some suggest that the absence of peripheral signings (bench bats, filler relievers, etc.) that Atlanta isn't wrapping up their offseason. They seem to be waiting the market out and seeing if prices drop to their liking.

The Bravos are imminently connected to JT Realmuto, but haven't yet wanted to meet Miami's sky high ask. They are supposedly in the market for an ace pitcher, though its anyone's guess who that is. You are also starting to see rumblings of Craig Kimbrel, who might take a hometown discount (he's from Alabama) to come back to Atlanta.

I still think the Braves are going to make a move. Anthopolous keeps things notoriously close to the vest. I get the impression that Atlanta fans will be displeased if the Braves essentially stand pat after numerous reports of revenues ballooning with the new stadium.

Phillie fans, likewise, will be grousing if they don't see a major move beyond what has been attained in the offseason. I still think they are waiting to see how far prices drop. They are sitting on a ton of cash. However, I also think their is some 'long-term' thinking in keeping enough flexibility to go get Trout next year. Also could use another solid starter and several are still available.

[PaladinFan]

[/B]Phillie fans, likewise, will be grousing if they don't see a major move beyond what has been attained in the offseason. I still think they are waiting to see how far prices drop. They are sitting on a ton of cash. However, I also think their is some 'long-term' thinking in keeping enough flexibility to go get Trout next year. Also could use another solid starter and several are still available.

I don't think that the Braves have a mound of money, but they do have a prospect rich farm system and are the defending NL East champs. If the other teams are getting better, you need to improve as well.

[ngineer]

Reported in the Allentown Morning Call this a.m. that the Phils are in the game for Realmuto and possible deal that would include Alfaro to the Fish. Hard to believe Keuchel is still out there.

[PaladinFan]

Reported in the Allentown Morning Call this a.m. that the Phils are in the game for Realmuto and possible deal that would include Alfaro to the Fish. Hard to believe Keuchel is still out there.

I won't believe Realmuto is going to be traded until he is actually traded. I've can't remember a guy who has been dangled out there as long as he has.

Unfortuantely, Realmuto is being punished for the Marlin's weak return for Ozuna, Yelich, and Stanton.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

The universal DH is gaining steam once again... when will this become reality or will the DH begone in the AL instead? xconfusedx

And what if baseball had something similar to Shad Khan (i.e. a foreign team owner)... could the Cubs' recent controversies be prevented in the first place? xsmhx

[Laker]

Meanwhile...

The universal DH is gaining steam once again... when will this become reality or will the DH begone in the AL instead? xconfusedx

If I was a gambling man- and I'm not- I'd bet the house that the NL will go with the DH and that the AL would never get rid of it. Other levels- HS, college- have the DH. It doesn't make sense for one league to have it and the other one not to- you can see this in the World Series.

[Laker]

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BREAKING----Per @KeithMills1090 (https://twitter.com/KeithMills1090) Orioles Hall of Famer Frank Robinson has died at the age of 83. Robinson among other things led the Orioles 1966 World Championship team Special report coming @wbalradio (https://twitter.com/wbalradio)

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I like the Phils getting Realmuto! Dude has a really active bat. He crushed the ball at Citizens Bank Park last year during the Marlins frequent visits. At this point I might take another ace over Harper or Machado. The Phils have put together a real solid team imo without spending "stupid money", yet.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Robert Lang WBAL‏ @Reporterroblang (https://twitter.com/Reporterroblang) 18m18 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Reporterroblang/status/1093589306457931776)More



BREAKING----Per @KeithMills1090 (https://twitter.com/KeithMills1090) Orioles Hall of Famer Frank Robinson has died at the age of 83. Robinson among other things led the Orioles 1966 World Championship team Special report coming @wbalradio (https://twitter.com/wbalradio)


Cal Ripken Jr. was childhood hero so I got to learn a lot about the Orioles history. Robinson was an unbelievable talent and great ambassador for baseball.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Realmuto has finally been traded to the Phils for 3 prospects and international signing money.

https://www.mlb.com/news/jt-realmuto-phillies-marlins-trade/c-303642694?tid=282421090

[bonarae]

And... the Disabled List is now the Injured List, being consistent with the other professional sports leagues and after a long-standing outcry from the disabled-advocacy groups.

[ngineer]

Reported in the Allentown Morning Call this a.m. that the Phils are in the game for Realmuto and possible deal that would include Alfaro to the Fish. Hard to believe Keuchel is still out there.

I wasn't hallucinating!!!! Love the deal. Marlins get a pitcher with a lot of upside, however, his health track record is sketchy and I think the Phils were willing to take a reasonable chance he won't pan out over the long haul, while they get a proven talent who will help them immediately. Less pressure, now, also to get Harper or Machado (lthough I would still love to get either one, now). Team already improved over last year.

[PaladinFan]

I wasn't hallucinating!!!! Love the deal. Marlins get a pitcher with a lot of upside, however, his health track record is sketchy and I think the Phils were willing to take a reasonable chance he won't pan out over the long haul, while they get a proven talent who will help them immediately. Less pressure, now, also to get Harper or Machado (lthough I would still love to get either one, now). Team already improved over last year.

Our long national nightmare is over. The Marlins finally traded JT Realmuto.

[MR. CHICKEN]

If I was a gambling man- and I'm not- I'd bet the house that the NL will go with the DH and that the AL would never get rid of it. Other levels- HS, college- have the DH. It doesn't make sense for one league to have it and the other one not to- you can see this in the World Series.


http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30044&stc=1..........PRIORITY....DIS YEAR......PACE UH GAMES........LIKE DUH PROPOSAL DAT....RELIEVERS MUST FACE MINIMUM ....UH THREE BATTERS....OR.....FINISH DUH INNIN'..........AN'.....UH PITCH CLOCK........AWK!

[PaladinFan]

Relievers facing a minimum seems like a sound idea. You might lose a few guys who have gharish splits, but it would speed up the game and eliminate constant pitching changes for matchup purposes.

I see the DH as inevitable. I think the DH creates a different and less interesting version of baseball, but it is where the game is going.

[clenz]

Love the idea of forcing a guy to face at least a couple batters.

I've long hated the 3 pitchers in an inning facing 4 total batters.

What should be a 3 minute inning becomes 15

[PaladinFan]

I am always glad to see baseball back, but I am particularly glad to see this long quiet offseason come to a close. Hard to believe that the top free agents still don't have a team.

I am still holding out hope that the Braves make a splash. The Atlanta front office is, as a matter of practice, more locked down than the Pentagon, so it is difficult to even find small nuggets of information. While I'd love to see Harper or a reunion with Kimbrel, it's hard to know how aggressive this group will be. They seem pretty well committed to playing the long game.

[Laker]

I didn't know that they had made a bobble head out of this.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzakDNaVsAE10d3.jpg

[MR. CHICKEN]

I wasn't hallucinating!!!! Love the deal. Marlins get a pitcher with a lot of upside, however, his health track record is sketchy and I think the Phils were willing to take a reasonable chance he won't pan out over the long haul, while they get a proven talent who will help them immediately. Less pressure, now, also to get Harper or Machado (lthough I would still love to get either one, now). Team already improved over last year.


........DUDE'S ARE HOLDIN' OUT.........WHO EVERAH SIGNS FIRST.......DUH SECOND GETS UH $DOLLAR MO'..........AN' ALL DUH INK.........AWK!

[PaladinFan]

There's a photograph circulating on Twitter of Craig Kimbrel at the Orlando airport.

The Braves' spring training complex is in Orlando. Outside of the Tiger's complex in Lakeland, there's really no other spring training set ups in the Orlando area.

I think a lot of the angst Atlanta fans are feeling would be alleviated some by signing Kimbrel. He's a local guy (Alabama), grew up a Braves fan, and is still a fan favorite. If you add him to the Braves current bullpen mix, slot Arodys Vizcaino to the 8th inning and AJ Minter to the 7th, the Braves would have at least three power arms in the late innings that would rival any pen in baseball.

[PaladinFan]

The Braves have taken a lot of beatings from fans and local sportswriters recently.

Atlanta's brass had several interviews last season about moving the team to a lower-middle market club to a higher spending club. They have a young team that exceeded expectations and won the division last year. While they did sign Josh Donaldson, they really used the dead money they were paying Matt Kemp to do that, so payroll has not increased.

The natives are getting restless. SunTrust park was built after a surprising announcement and much to the distaste of many locals (who have since voted out most of the Cobb County commission). The Braves revenues have skyrocketed with the new stadium and development around the park. Yet here we are with a division champion team and the front office is taking the same vague language of finding the "right deal."

The allegation by many is that the Braves owner, Liberty Media, is concerned primarily with profit and not winning a world series. That seems like a realistic charge. There are some phenomenal players on the market and the Braves should have money to spend and have stated over and over the last year that they would be active this winter.

[ngineer]

NL East is going to be the toughest overall division this year with 4/5 teams all capable of taking the title. Machado and/or Harper and/or Keuchel can make the difference.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Bochy's final season to manage the Giants and in baseball is this season, it was announced today.

https://www.mlb.com/news/bruce-bochy-will-retire-after-2019-season/c-304113650

[PaladinFan]

NL East is going to be the toughest overall division this year with 4/5 teams all capable of taking the title. Machado and/or Harper and/or Keuchel can make the difference.

Between the NL East and AL East, those are going to be pretty tough divisions.

[MR. CHICKEN]

.....MANNY....IS UH.....SAN DIEGO PADRE..............AWK!

[ngineer]

.....MANNY....IS UH.....SAN DIEGO PADRE..............AWK!

Fine by me. Never a phan.

[PaladinFan]

Interesting spot for the Phillies. Machado, widely reported as their preferred target, signs with San Diego. Philly is now reported to turning their entire attention to Harper.

Philadelphia now seems destined to have to beat Machado's contract (and probably Stanton's) or miss out on Harper all together.

[ngineer]

Probably true. Twill be interesting to see if Middleton (general partner of the ownership) will "be a little bit stupid" and allow himself to be lured into a 10-12 year contract for close to $340M. As much as I would like to see Harper in the lineup, a good part of me says let him go elsewhere for that price. Stanton is worth more than Harper. Phils got burned big time when they gave Ryan Howard a 5 or 6 year deal and then he promptly tore his achillies heel and was never the same again. I'd rather see them use the money for Keuchel and make a deal Trout cannot refuse in 2020.

[PaladinFan]

Probably true. Twill be interesting to see if Middleton (general partner of the ownership) will "be a little bit stupid" and allow himself to be lured into a 10-12 year contract for close to $340M. As much as I would like to see Harper in the lineup, a good part of me says let him go elsewhere for that price. Stanton is worth more than Harper. Phils got burned big time when they gave Ryan Howard a 5 or 6 year deal and then he promptly tore his achillies heel and was never the same again. I'd rather see them use the money for Keuchel and make a deal Trout cannot refuse in 2020.

Howard is a bit of a different story. That deal was a disaster before the ink was dried. They extended a big-bodied first baseman (who historically have production that falls off a cliff in their 30s). Harper's a different cat.

From what I can glean, the Phillies already have $93million or so wrapped up into the 2020 season, which doesn't include any arbitrartion eligible players or extensions. They'll be paying Jake Arrieta and Andrew McCutcheon a lot of money well into their past-prime years.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Interesting spot for the Phillies. Machado, widely reported as their preferred target, signs with San Diego. Philly is now reported to turning their entire attention to Harper.

Philadelphia now seems destined to have to beat Machado's contract (and probably Stanton's) or miss out on Harper all together.

........AH'D SAY....HARPER WAS DUH PREFERRED ONE.....AS OURAH.....RIGHT FIELD PLATOONERS.......ACCOUNTED FO' OWN-LAH.....20 DINGERS....AN' 65 RBI'S.....COMBINED......WE GOT US UH SHORTSTOP.....DIS WINTER............&.....THIRD BASE.....ISN'T DAT SHABBY...........BRAWK!

....AN' NOW.....SEEMS ALL DUH HARPER TEAMS.........ARE RE-THINKIN'..........DUH MEGA CONTRACTS..........AH'D GO FO' KIMBREL.......AS BULLPEN CLOSER BAH COMMITTEE.....WENT SOUFF IN AUGUST....FO' PHIGHTIN'S............AWK!

[ngineer]

If the Phils sign Harper, they'll have a plethora of OF's who have decent talent and potential upsides who could be used in trades. I like Quinn in CF--he can flat out fly and get the ball. McCutheon and Harper in the corners. I'd keep Nick Williams as the first off the bench and try and trade Herrerra. He looks like gang busters for a week and then does nothing for two weeks. Runs lousy routes in the field, yet is a natural talent. Very frustrating to watch.

[MR. CHICKEN]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30155&stc=1.....CHA-CHING!..............BRAWK!

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2606 ... conclusion (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26067919/contract-talks-bryce-harper-phillies-nearing-conclusion)

[ngineer]

I can see the headline, now: "Harper's Bizarre"!!

[PaladinFan]

It feels like the longer the Harper thing drags on, the less likely he is to land in Philadelphia.

[PaladinFan]

Recent reports are that there is heavy involvement from the Giants and Dodgers.

As a Braves fan, I'd be happy to see Harper land outside the NL East.

[ngineer]

Recent reports are that there is heavy involvement from the Giants and Dodgers.

As a Braves fan, I'd be happy to see Harper land outside the NL East.

Yes, seems like the Dodgers are offering more annual money but "only" a five year contract. The question is whether Harper is just using them to jack up the Phils. I know he's from "out that way" so maybe the idea of being in the west is enticing. But, I agree that if we don't get him, tis better he be out west than with one of "you guys" in da East!

[ngineer]

Meanwhile, Roman Quinn is hurt again. This time with an oblique strain. they are nasty as they can get aggravated easy. They has great natural talent, including blazing speed, but he hasn't been able to play a full season yet due to various ailments.

[ngineer]

HARPER SIGNS WITH PHILLIES FOR 13 YEARS/$330M !!!!!!

[MR. CHICKEN]

HARPER SIGNS WITH PHILLIES FOR 13 YEARS/$330M !!!!!!

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30187&stc=1.....JES' HEARD UH-BOUT IT......AS AH TUNED INTA TADAYS GAME....AGIN DUH ORIOLES..........BROADCAST TEAM.....ALL OVERAH IT...xhypedx..AWKQ

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

13 year contract?!?!.....lol.

I don't get it one bit. I was content rolling with the current line-up and seeing what pieces they might need as the season moves along. The Phils have a 5-7 year window MAYBE with this so better win something. This just feels like Ryan Howard all over again.

[PaladinFan]

13 year contract?!?!.....lol.

I don't get it one bit. I was content rolling with the current line-up and seeing what pieces they might need as the season moves along. The Phils have a 5-7 year window MAYBE with this so better win something. This just feels like Ryan Howard all over again.

I think the difference a bit is that with Rollins/Utley/Howard/Werth the Phillies had the best young core in the NL during that window. Take a strong young core and then push for top players through trades or free agency - Halladay, Oswalt, Lee, etc.

In this circumstance, I don't think the Phillies are the best young core in the NL East, much less the national league.

That's a lot of money tied up for a long time. He has full no trade rights and no opt outs. That means Philly is tied to Bryce Harper until he's nearly 40. Yikes.

[PaladinFan]

I should note that the NL East is going to be fascinating to watch this year and certainly looks like the best division in baseball on paper. The Marlins are rebuilding, but the rest of the division look like world series contenders.

[ngineer]

I wonder if Quinn's situation prompted the Major Domo's to bite the bullet. Plus, no guarantee on Trout two years from now. I would certainly hope part of the delay was getting the insurance underwriting done on Harper should he have a "Howard moment"...

[caribbeanhen]

I should note that the NL East is going to be fascinating to watch this year and certainly looks like the best division in baseball on paper. The Marlins are rebuilding, but the rest of the division look like world series contenders.

I have to think the Braves are not going to repeat, they rode the fresh wave of the rookies stars last year to the title and pretty much stood around and watched the rest of the NL East get much better..... Josh Donaldson? would of been a big deal 5 years ago or so, hard to hit homers in Atlanta for right handed hitters....

We can always read the press clippings from all the young pitching talent......haha

[PaladinFan]

I have to think the Braves are not going to repeat, they rode the fresh wave of the rookies stars last year to the title and pretty much stood around and watched the rest of the NL East get much better..... Josh Donaldson? would of been a big deal 5 years ago or so, hard to hit homers in Atlanta for right handed hitters....

We can always read the press clippings from all the young pitching talent......haha

No one thought the Braves had a snowball's chance last season, and they ran away with the division. I think you might underestimate how good the Braves young players are.

Ronald Acuna was probably better than Harper last season and comes with far superior defense. Albies is probably the best second baseman in the NL. Donaldson, if healthy, is as good as they come.

I think lost in some of this is how much depth the Braves have at SP. They are young, but Atlanta can go, what, 10 deep in the major league rotation? That matters over 162 games.

[caribbeanhen]

No one thought the Braves had a snowball's chance last season, and they ran away with the division. I think you might underestimate how good the Braves young players are.

Ronald Acuna was probably better than Harper last season and comes with far superior defense. Albies is probably the best second baseman in the NL. Donaldson, if healthy, is as good as they come.

I think lost in some of this is how much depth the Braves have at SP. They are young, but Atlanta can go, what, 10 deep in the major league rotation? That matters over 162 games.

Nope, just ask anyone on Gohens my opinion of Albies and especially Acuna...... how many times do I have to rave about these kids

not to mention how many times I've plugged the the Braves pitching prospects

but the Braves took the Satchel approach, don't look back, somebody might be gaining on ya

are they in the mix for either Kimbrell?

[TheKingpin28]

Sounds like Harper to the Phillies is a done deal.

Bump for accuracy.

Mr Chicken and PaladinFan; it wasn't fake news, just extremely early reporting. xlolx

[PaladinFan]

Nope, just ask anyone on Gohens my opinion of Albies and especially Acuna...... how many times do I have to rave about these kids

not to mention how many times I've plugged the the Braves pitching prospects

but the Braves took the Satchel approach, don't look back, somebody might be gaining on ya

are they in the mix for either Kimbrell?

I'd love to see Kimbrel back in Atlanta. I think his name is floated around a bit, but reports indicate he's not coming off his ask. I think Atlanta would pay him, just not over the length of contract he's seeking.

[MR. CHICKEN]

13 year contract?!?!.....lol.

I don't get it one bit. I was content rolling with the current line-up and seeing what pieces they might need as the season moves along. The Phils have a 5-7 year window MAYBE with this so better win something. This just feels like Ryan Howard all over again.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30188&stc=1.....HEALTH IS...ALWAYS UH ISSUE....NO MATTER DUH PLAYER.......HE'LL BE DUH....DESIGNATED HITTER....IN HIS LATER YEARS.....WHEN NL.....GOES DAT WAY......BRAWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

I think the difference a bit is that with Rollins/Utley/Howard/Werth the Phillies had the best young core in the NL during that window. Take a strong young core and then push for top players through trades or free agency - Halladay, Oswalt, Lee, etc.

In this circumstance, I don't think the Phillies are the best young core in the NL East, much less the national league.

That's a lot of money tied up for a long time. He has full no trade rights and no opt outs. That means Philly is tied to Bryce Harper until he's nearly 40. Yikes.


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[caribbeanhen]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30191&stc=1.........PHIGHTIN'S.......STILL 50 MILLION.....UNDER LUX TAX........EXTRA DUCATS...FO' KIMBREL??......25+ MIL/YEAR......CHUMP CHANGE....COMPARED TA MLB REVENUE......DH....WHEN DUH BEARD IS GRAY......LINE-UP.......WON'T BE DAT OL'......FO' SEVERAL YEARS.........DISMAY...IN GEORGIA/NEW YORK/WASHIN'TON.....................BRAWK!

agree Mr C, Braves fans should not be content with watching other teams get better, last year is in the books

Recent memory pulls up nothing to compare to what the Phillies have done this offseason and they might not be finished yet...

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http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30191&stc=1.........PHIGHTIN'S.......STILL 50 MILLION.....UNDER LUX TAX........EXTRA DUCATS...FO' KIMBREL??......25+ MIL/YEAR......CHUMP CHANGE....COMPARED TA MLB REVENUE......DH....WHEN DUH BEARD IS GRAY......LINE-UP.......WON'T BE DAT OL'......FO' SEVERAL YEARS.........DISMAY...IN GEORGIA/NEW YORK/WASHIN'TON.....................BRAWK!

agree Mr C, Braves fans should not be content with watching other teams get better, last year is in the books

Recent memory pulls up nothing to compare to what the Phillies have done this offseason and they might not be finished yet...

[PaladinFan]

I just think you can find plenty of examples where it is hard to buy a world series ring. World series rings and long term sustainability are almost always with teams that maintain a core of young talent and then make strategic acquisitions in trades and free agency.

I don't like how quite Atlanta has been this offseason, but I also think they were already more talented than a lot of their rivals before the season began. In essence, the other division teams are having to catch Atlanta.

Frankly, the Phillies are built to try and put up a ton of runs in their hitter friendly park. Their pitching staff is not terribly impressive outside of Aaron Nola. The 3-4-5 guys in the rotation are little more than depth pieces.

Now, if they land Keuchel or Kimbrel, I'll be a little more concerned. Right now, though, I think the Phillies are going to try and win a lot of 7-5 ball games.

[caribbeanhen]

Paladin, we might get to see some of our prized prospects early as the Braves have some starters starting out with arm issues, hopefully nothing serious but a concern none the less

Foltzy - elbow
Gausman - shoulder
Soroka - shoulder

Ian Anderson or Joey Wentz by August?

Kyle Wright in April?

[MR. CHICKEN]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30192&stc=1....PHILS HUNG IN...LAST SEASON....TIL AUGUST.....DID IT PRIMARILY........ON....EKEIN' OUT RUNS....'CAUSE COODN'T..GET DUH BIG HIT.......WHIFF BASES LOADED...STRANDED UH TON ....OURAH STARTERS......EASILY WENT....6 TA SEVEN INNIN'S........RELIEVERS COODN'T HOLD LEADS IN AUGUST AN' AFTERAH.....AN' WHEN DEY FALTERED......NO OFFENSE....TA REGAIN DUH LEADS......WHIFF HITIN' CATCHER & OF'S.......1B/3B........WILL NOW HAVE PROTECTION.....&....GET DEY'RE PITCHES........CORRECT......'BOUT DUH RUN PRODUCTION......AH'M PLAYIN'....DUH 13 RUN POOL.....BIG TIME.....AWK!

[PaladinFan]

Paladin, we might get to see some of our prized prospects early as the Braves have some starters starting out with arm issues, hopefully nothing serious but a concern none the less

Foltzy - elbow
Gausman - shoulder
Soroka - shoulder

Ian Anderson or Joey Wentz by August?

Kyle Wright in April?

None of those issues seem serious at this point.

I don't disagree with your assessment. Anderson and Wentz probably need some time in AAA. Wright is a bit older as a college guy and has already seen success at Gwinett. I think he or Bryse Wilson will be the first ones up.

Of course, the Braves already have a number of young MLB-starter caliber guys that will probably be in the conversation already.

My understanding is that Soroka's shoulder issue is not the same as what shut him down last season. My guess is either he or Toussaint are the 5th man in the rotation, Fried and Gohara start in the pen, and Allard, Wright, and Wilson are the first ones to be pulled up.

[ngineer]

I think the difference a bit is that with Rollins/Utley/Howard/Werth the Phillies had the best young core in the NL during that window. Take a strong young core and then push for top players through trades or free agency - Halladay, Oswalt, Lee, etc.

In this circumstance, I don't think the Phillies are the best young core in the NL East, much less the national league.

That's a lot of money tied up for a long time. He has full no trade rights and no opt outs. That means Philly is tied to Bryce Harper until he's nearly 40. Yikes.

...but the Mutts will still be paying Bonilla!!!xsmiley_wix

[ngineer]

Phillies will actually have a fairly young 'core' for a number of years. Segura is 28, Franco is 26, Harper 26, Hoskins 26, Herrera 27, Realmuto 27, Hernandez 28, Kingery 24, Quinn 25, Williams 25, Nola 25, Eflin 24, ...
There will always be some moving parts, especially pitchers. I wouldn't be surprised to see one last pitching piece. The Phils were so bad last year in offense that there was a lot of pressure on the young staff to be too fine. With some heavy bats no in the line up, especially Harper being a lefty, we should be returning to the days of 2007-11 when a 3 run deficit could vanish quite quickly. I am also looking for Arrieta to bounce back. He was hurt over the last half of last year and his numbers reflected that.
I know it's not even spring yet, but skies have become quite sunny around here.

BTW--reported last night that seats for opening day (CBP is already sold out) in the right field stands, are going for $350+ on the secondary market.

Also announced that Chase Utley has signed a contract with the Phillies so as to retire a Phillie on June 21 at CBP.

Finally, what number will Harper wear? He wore 34 in DC, but that number was Doc Halladay's, who is going into the HOF. As far as I can remember HOF numbers, at least in Philly, do not get reused. Harper expected to report over the weekend in Clearwater.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Phillies will actually have a fairly young 'core' for a number of years. Segura is 28, Franco is 26, Harper 26, Hoskins 26, Herrera 27, Realmuto 27, Hernandez 28, Kingery 24, Quinn 25, Williams 25, Nola 25, Eflin 24, ...
There will always be some moving parts, especially pitchers. I wouldn't be surprised to see one last pitching piece. The Phils were so bad last year in offense that there was a lot of pressure on the young staff to be too fine. With some heavy bats no in the line up, especially Harper being a lefty, we should be returning to the days of 2007-11 when a 3 run deficit could vanish quite quickly. I am also looking for Arrieta to bounce back. He was hurt over the last half of last year and his numbers reflected that.
I know it's not even spring yet, but skies have become quite sunny around here.

BTW--reported last night that seats for opening day (CBP is already sold out) in the right field stands, are going for $350+ on the secondary market.

Also announced that Chase Utley has signed a contract with the Phillies so as to retire a Phillie on June 21 at CBP.

Finally, what number will Harper wear? He wore 34 in DC, but that number was Doc Halladay's, who is going into the HOF. As far as I can remember HOF numbers, at least in Philly, do not get reused. Harper expected to report over the weekend in Clearwater.

....BELIEVE UH COACH WEARS #3.....34 REVERSED=43 BELONGED TA PIVETTA.......3+4=7=FRANCO.........#4=KINGERY..... ..20A.........IS OPEN...:D..AWK!

.....HOPE HE'S BEEN DOIN'.....PUSH-UPS...IN HIS 'ZONAH RANCHERO.......BRAWK!

[PaladinFan]

Phillies will actually have a fairly young 'core' for a number of years. Segura is 28, Franco is 26, Harper 26, Hoskins 26, Herrera 27, Realmuto 27, Hernandez 28, Kingery 24, Quinn 25, Williams 25, Nola 25, Eflin 24, ...
There will always be some moving parts, especially pitchers. I wouldn't be surprised to see one last pitching piece. The Phils were so bad last year in offense that there was a lot of pressure on the young staff to be too fine. With some heavy bats no in the line up, especially Harper being a lefty, we should be returning to the days of 2007-11 when a 3 run deficit could vanish quite quickly. I am also looking for Arrieta to bounce back. He was hurt over the last half of last year and his numbers reflected that.
I know it's not even spring yet, but skies have become quite sunny around here.

BTW--reported last night that seats for opening day (CBP is already sold out) in the right field stands, are going for $350+ on the secondary market.

Also announced that Chase Utley has signed a contract with the Phillies so as to retire a Phillie on June 21 at CBP.

Finally, what number will Harper wear? He wore 34 in DC, but that number was Doc Halladay's, who is going into the HOF. As far as I can remember HOF numbers, at least in Philly, do not get reused. Harper expected to report over the weekend in Clearwater.

I don't know what Philly will do, but Halladay pitched four years in Philadelphia and 12 years in Toronto. 4 years seems a bit short to retire a player's number.

[PaladinFan]

There's a lot of depth to this Harper deal, though this seems to be a pretty reasonable assessment. https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/2/28/18245263/bryce-harper-philadelphia-phillies-record-contract-13-years-330-million

Some writers seem to think that Harper is already past his prime, largely because he's a converted catcher, not a particularly good defender, and has a violent swing that will wear on his body over time. It is impossible to know how this deal will look in the future. As the article notes, the economics of baseball will fundamentally shift over the life of the contract as new collective bargaining agreements are negotiated.

The positives for Philadelphia is that they keep Harper to a reasonable AAV that should allow them to stay under the luxury tax and add talent in the future. The potential negatives, of course, are the length of the deal and virtually no way of knowing what sort of payer Harper will be in the future. Some players continue to play at a high level well into their 30s. Some don't.

[MR. CHICKEN]

......BLAH..BLAH...BLAH......AH'LL BE 85....IN 13 YEARS........ON DUH GERBER DIET....IFIN' LUCKY........SO.....JES' WIN NOW....AN' INTA NEXT FEW YEARS.......W. SOX/GIANTS/DODGERS/WASHIN'TON......ALL HAD DUH SAME DESIRES........HE'LL BE UH BETTER FIELDER IN RIGHT...DAN....HOSKINS WAS IN LEFT.........HE'LL GIVE US WALK-OFF DINGERS.....AN' DOUBLES WHIFF LOADED SACKS......MONEY AIN'T COMIN' OUTTAH MAH POCKET........OWN-LAH DOWNSIDE........TRYIN' TA COP TICKETS........DEY'RE GOIN' FASTER IN PHILLY.....DEN CHEESE-STEAKS & PRETZELS.....&.......FOLES JERSEYS........BRAWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

There's a lot of depth to this Harper deal, though this seems to be a pretty reasonable assessment. https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/2/28/18245263/bryce-harper-philadelphia-phillies-record-contract-13-years-330-million

Some writers seem to think that Harper is already past his prime, largely because he's a converted catcher, not a particularly good defender, and has a violent swing that will wear on his body over time. It is impossible to know how this deal will look in the future. As the article notes, the economics of baseball will fundamentally shift over the life of the contract as new collective bargaining agreements are negotiated.

The positives for Philadelphia is that they keep Harper to a reasonable AAV that should allow them to stay under the luxury tax and add talent in the future. The potential negatives, of course, are the length of the deal and virtually no way of knowing what sort of payer Harper will be in the future. Some players continue to play at a high level well into their 30s. Some don't.


......OR....ALBIES/ACUNA.......AWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

.....HARPER GETS....#3......(GUESS COACH GETS RE-ASSIGNED.....LIKE IN DUH 70'S).....EVERAH THIN' HAPPENS IN THREES........HARPER/KIMBREL/KUECHAL ???.....BRAWK!

[ngineer]

Trying to think of the last Phillie to wear 3. Of course, it was the Bambino's in NY...maybe a message.

Also, interesting comment by Harper about the long term and no opt out: "I want to create my legacy there and recruit some others to join me..." I wonder if he's friendly with Trout?:D

[MR. CHICKEN]

Trying to think of the last Phillie to wear 3. Of course, it was the Bambino's in NY...maybe a message.

Also, interesting comment by Harper about the long term and no opt out: "I want to create my legacy there and recruit some others to join me..." I wonder if he's friendly with Trout?:D

......CHUCK KLEIN........DALE MURPHY........HUNTER PENCE.........MARLON BYRD......WAS LAST PLAYER.....JOSE FLORES 1B COACH HAD #3....LAST YEAR.........BRAWK!

[caribbeanhen]

......OR....ALBIES/ACUNA.......AWK!

Mr C, Acuna is as real as the Lion King was a Disney movie, the only thing that can stop this special talent would be a trip back home to Venezuela in the off season

Albies had a rough second half last year, it's time for him to adjust..... Kid is a joy to watch, loves being on the field.

Hopefully for all the kiddies in Philly Bryce will stay healthy, hate to see young lads tearing up as the leave the park without a Harper sighting....haha

[ngineer]

......CHUCK KLEIN........DALE MURPHY........HUNTER PENCE.........MARLON BYRD......WAS LAST PLAYER.....JOSE FLORES 1B COACH HAD #3....LAST YEAR.........BRAWK!

Thanks! Some good players there. I was very impressed with the way Harper handled himself as the press conference and the interviews later. His wife was also impressive in her discussion about why they wanted to come to Philadelphia. Harper's specific reference to trying to recruit others to join him and referring to a certain player who 'comes off the books in two seasons" who he'd love to play with was very interesting.

[PaladinFan]

Trying to think of the last Phillie to wear 3. Of course, it was the Bambino's in NY...maybe a message.

Also, interesting comment by Harper about the long term and no opt out: "I want to create my legacy there and recruit some others to join me..." I wonder if he's friendly with Trout?:D

I looked it up. Sort of a tawdry crowd of Phillies No. 3s - David Lough was last to wear in in 2016. Recent No. 3s: Jeff Francouer, Marlon Byrd, Roger Bernadina, Delmon Young, Hunter Pence.

On name recognition, perhaps the most famous Phillie ever to wear No. 3 is most well known for his time in Atlanta - Dale Murphy, who wore No. 3 from 1990-92.

[PaladinFan]

Mr C, Acuna is as real as the Lion King was a Disney movie, the only thing that can stop this special talent would be a trip back home to Venezuela in the off season

Albies had a rough second half last year, it's time for him to adjust..... Kid is a joy to watch, loves being on the field.

Hopefully for all the kiddies in Philly Bryce will stay healthy, hate to see young lads tearing up as the leave the park without a Harper sighting....haha

Acuna isn't a household name yet, but I think he's a once-in-a-generation player.

[MR. CHICKEN]

I looked it up. Sort of a tawdry crowd of Phillies No. 3s - David Lough was last to wear in in 2016. Recent No. 3s: Jeff Francouer, Marlon Byrd, Roger Bernadina, Delmon Young, Hunter Pence.

On name recognition, perhaps the most famous Phillie ever to wear No. 3 is most well known for his time in Atlanta - Dale Murphy, who wore No. 3 from 1990-92.


.....YEAH....AH MISSED LOUGH....xembarrassedx......CHUCK KLEIN.....WHO WORE #3....IS IN DUH HALL O' FAME........HE CAME AN' WENT..TA PHILLIES..SEVERAL TIMES...IN TRADES.....EACH TIME....GETTIN' ASSIGNED UH DIFFERENT #...HE WORE...1/3/8/14/26/29/32/36....1/ASHBURN.....14/BUNNING.....32/CARLTON......36/ROBERTS.......SO #3 WAS NOT RETIRED.........READ HIS STORY ON WIKIPEDIA.........SEVERAL UH HIS #'s......RETIRED BAH PHIGHTIN'S....ALL-TIMERS....BRAWK!

[PaladinFan]

Some reports of the Nationals courting Kimbrel, though it seems they are reluctant to go over the luxury tax threshold. No real way for Washington to sign Craig Kimbrel without going over the threshold.

That said, if Kimbrel signs with the Nationals on a reasonable deal Braves fans are going to revolt.

[MR. CHICKEN]

........JES' RETURNED FROM COSTCO SHOPPIN'......ON INFO-BOARD AS YA WALK IN......EMPLOYEE O' MONTH SIGN....WHIFF PICTURE UH HARPER....xlolxxnodxxlolx.....BRAWK!

[ngineer]

#3 Phillie jerseys are hard to come by. Stores having trouble keeping on the racks.

I forgot about Dale Murphy. Classy guy. Unfortunately, on the downside when he was in Philly.

[caribbeanhen]

#3 Phillie jerseys are hard to come by. Stores having trouble keeping on the racks.

I forgot about Dale Murphy. Classy guy. Unfortunately, on the downside when he was in Philly.

Dale Murphy.... the slugging smooth CF that came up as a Catcher but developed a mental block with throws down to second base, he had a phobia about hitting the pitcher..... that's how nice a guy Dale is! Almost forgot he was a Phillie....Yep, his best years were with early to Mid 80's with the Braves, he faded fast.....

[PaladinFan]

Dale Murphy.... the slugging smooth CF that came up as a Catcher but developed a mental block with throws down to second base, he had a phobia about hitting the pitcher..... that's how nice a guy Dale is! Almost forgot he was a Phillie....Yep, his best years were with early to Mid 80's with the Braves, he faded fast.....

Super nice guy. I have a Dale Murphy signed ball in my office that I know is authentic because I handed it to him at spring training a few years back.

[PaladinFan]

Christian Pache homered last night for the Braves in their game against Philly and is now hitting .412 on the spring. Pache is arguably the Braves top positional prospect (maybe top overall). Like Ronald Acuna, he's a 20-year-old 5 tool outfielder. I think most Braves fans are anxious for the day when both of those guys are patrolling the outfield in Atlanta.

[caribbeanhen]

Christian Pache homered last night for the Braves in their game against Philly and is now hitting .412 on the spring. Pache is arguably the Braves top positional prospect (maybe top overall). Like Ronald Acuna, he's a 20-year-old 5 tool outfielder. I think most Braves fans are anxious for the day when both of those guys are patrolling the outfield in Atlanta.

I've been keeping an eye on Pache, seems like he would be penciled in for AA Mississippi this year, but certainly has the talent to jump a level ...... maybe he will be in Atlanta late summer...... unless their are some service issues

[MR. CHICKEN]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30233&stc=1..........#3.......WALKED TWICE IN PHILLIE DEBUT......AS BLUEJAY'S.......PITCHED 'ROUND HIM........FIRST AT BAT BB.....FOLLOWED BAH.....UH CRUSHED TATER BAH HOSKINS.......ON HIS FIRST PITCH........BJ's....MAY HAVE SET DUH STANDARD DEFENSE...FO' BRYICE........EMPLOYIN' FOUR OUTFIELDERS....DURIN' HIS AT BATS........AWK!

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[PaladinFan]

That Toronto defense was something else against Harper. No infielders on the left side and 4 outfielders.

It's an odd configuration, but thinking out loud it might make sense. According to his spray chart, Harper only hit about 13 ground balls to the left side of the infield last season against RH pitchers. He is far more of a pull hitter. He can drive the ball to all fields in the air.

Toronto is giving Harper a bunt hit, but the Phillies aren't paying Harper to bunt and hit singles. Harper knows that and so does Toronto. If Harper squares around and lays one down, the defensive team will take that every day.

[MR. CHICKEN]

That Toronto defense was something else against Harper. No infielders on the left side and 4 outfielders.

It's an odd configuration, but thinking out loud it might make sense. According to his spray chart, Harper only hit about 13 ground balls to the left side of the infield last season against RH pitchers. He is far more of a pull hitter. He can drive the ball to all fields in the air.

Toronto is giving Harper a bunt hit, but the Phillies aren't paying Harper to bunt and hit singles. Harper knows that and so does Toronto. If Harper squares around and lays one down, the defensive team will take that every day.

....BRYCE IS IN PHILLY....TA EMPTY DUH BASES.....DIS STRATEGY MAY WORK...WHEN BASES ARE EMPTY.............SO.......SHIFT AWAY.....WHEN SACKS ARE CRAMMED.....WHIFF PHIGHTIN'S..........BRAWK!

[PaladinFan]

Ronald Acuna has started to go on one of those runs this spring where no one can get him out.

I think Harper is a superb player, but if I had the choice right now, I'd take Acuna over him (setting aside contracts, celebrity, etc.).

This will be a fun year in the NL East. There are some really good baseball teams.

[caribbeanhen]

Ronald Acuna has started to go on one of those runs this spring where no one can get him out.

I think Harper is a superb player, but if I had the choice right now, I'd take Acuna over him (setting aside contracts, celebrity, etc.).

This will be a fun year in the NL East. There are some really good baseball teams.

Acuna is a better player right now but Harper is selling tickets and getting the fan base all gaga like..... Phillies pitching is a concern, they will need to make a deadline deal .....

[PaladinFan]

Acuna is a better player right now but Harper is selling tickets and getting the fan base all gaga like..... Phillies pitching is a concern, they will need to make a deadline deal .....

The Braves are quieting some of my doubts this spring, which is good. I'd still like for them to go get Craig Kimbrel, but I feel good.

Offensively, Freeman, Acuna, and Donaldson may end up being the toughest three batter stretch in the majors.

The young pitchers have been as advertised this spring. It gives me hope for starting depth that most teams desperately need over a long season. You know that if a starter has to miss a start or two you can dip down and call on Toussaint, Wilson, Wright, Gohara, or Fried. That's a luxury.

I agree that the Phillies still have a pitching concern. Depth is critical. It isn't so much what your five man rotation looks like, but rather what the 10 starting pitchers you may have to call on for innings over the course of the season that is most relevant (in my opinion).

[MR. CHICKEN]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30272&stc=1.....BRYCE.....PLUNKED ON RIGHT ANKLE....YESTERDAY.......WHIFF 96 MPH PITCH......BAH RAGGEDLAH ARMED.....TORONTO ROOKIE........SO FAR....OWN-LAH CONTUSION......AWAITIN'.......MRIs.....WORD CLASS SURGEON'S..EXAMINATIONS..............LATEST CYBER-LASER TECHNIQUES........&.......CHICKEN SOUP.......xeekxxeekxxeekxxeekxxeekxxeekxxeekxxeek xxeekxxeekx.....BRAWK!

[PaladinFan]

I imagine Harper will be fine. I don't think I've ever seen long term issues from getting plunked in the ankle/foot. The ones you worry about are hands and face.

In the spring, though, with everyone being cautious with injuries, he may take a few days before getting amped up again. If its just a contusion, I see no way he's not in the lineup opening day.

[ngineer]

Lots of rumors about Phils talking with Keuchel, but length of contract is sticking point. Phils back end of rotation has a lot of "potential" but that never won a title.

[PaladinFan]

Braves also said to be monitoring the Keuchel market. Both Keuchel and Kimbrel make a ton of sense for Atlanta, but it seems the front office is wary of long-term commitments and surrendering draft picks.

Of course, Atlanta fans aren't entirely trusting of ownership's commitment to winning. A draft pick surrendered would be, I think, a third rounder. Nothing to sneeze at, but seemingly a small price to pay for a player that could put the team over the top.

[caribbeanhen]

Braves also said to be monitoring the Keuchel market. Both Keuchel and Kimbrel make a ton of sense for Atlanta, but it seems the front office is wary of long-term commitments and surrendering draft picks.

Of course, Atlanta fans aren't entirely trusting of ownership's commitment to winning. A draft pick surrendered would be, I think, a third rounder. Nothing to sneeze at, but seemingly a small price to pay for a player that could put the team over the top.

agree on small price to pay, #1 Farm system tag for years never really equates to playoff wins..... Dallas K the portly lefty could really help the Braves, he is probably past his prime though....but a 1 year deal would be worth the risk....

[ngineer]

agree on small price to pay, #1 Farm system tag for years never really equates to playoff wins..... Dallas K the portly lefty could really help the Braves, he is probably past his prime though....but a 1 year deal would be worth the risk....

Reportedly, the Phils have offered a one-year contract with substantial dollars, but he's holding fast for a 3 year deal. That is too risky, imo.

[caribbeanhen]

Reportedly, the Phils have offered a one-year contract with substantial dollars, but he's holding fast for a 3 year deal. That is too risky, imo.

agree, and as the opener draws closer his slim chance at a three year deal is quickly becoming none

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

With Trout taking a 12-year contract extension, can he be the next: Cal Ripken Jr., Robin Yount, Tony Gwynn Sr., or even Derek Jeter?

[PaladinFan]

Meanwhile...

With Trout taking a 12-year contract extension, can he be the next: Cal Ripken Jr., Robin Yount, Tony Gwynn Sr., or even Derek Jeter?

Trout is arguably the best player of the generation. Statistically, he's in a class to himself.

Unfortunately, I never get to watch him play. He's on the west coast and plays in the opposite league.

[caribbeanhen]

Trout is arguably the best player of the generation. Statistically, he's in a class to himself.

Unfortunately, I never get to watch him play. He's on the west coast and plays in the opposite league.

you don’t have mlb.com ?

I really like the condensed game feature

via Roku you can go back in time for all games so to speak

[ngineer]

Yes, sorry to see he committed to finish his career there, but I understand having gotten established in that community, the weather, and oh, yes, the $$$$$.

[PaladinFan]

you don’t have mlb.com ?

I really like the condensed game feature

via Roku you can go back in time for all games so to speak

I'm not sure I can stomach watching Andrelton Simmons play for someone else.

[PaladinFan]

Well worth a few minutes of your time to watch Ichiro come off the field a final time in front of a sold out Tokyo Dome.

[caribbeanhen]

I'm not sure I can stomach watching Andrelton Simmons play for someone else.

Pereza as well

[PaladinFan]

Pereza as well

I'm not sure there is a "worse" Braves trade in my memory than the deal that packaged Peraza and Wood to LA for Hector Olivera.

Granted, it shows you how far the Braves farm system has come. Jose Peraza was long the Braves top prospect. In his rookie season, Ronald Acuna has eclipsed many of Peraza's career numbers.

[Laker]

Where do MLB fans live? Interesting map.

https://seatgeek.com/tba/articles/where-do-mlb-fans-live-mapping-baseball-fandom-across-the-u-s/?fbclid=IwAR29L5HI0lDO98Wsg6ujpXFfYx1T4XmRogijOyUa CkGG7KihMrbTqBriEic

[PaladinFan]

Braves announce their rotation for the opening series in Philadelphia: Teheran followed by rookies Bryce Wilson and Kyle Wright.

It'll be an interesting matchup to see the young Braves hurlers against what should be a highly touted Phillies offense.

[caribbeanhen]

Braves announce their rotation for the opening series in Philadelphia: Teheran followed by rookies Bryce Wilson and Kyle Wright.

It'll be an interesting matchup to see the young Braves hurlers against what should be a highly touted Phillies offense.

no Newcomb?

[caribbeanhen]

Where do MLB fans live? Interesting map.

https://seatgeek.com/tba/articles/where-do-mlb-fans-live-mapping-baseball-fandom-across-the-u-s/?fbclid=IwAR29L5HI0lDO98Wsg6ujpXFfYx1T4XmRogijOyUa CkGG7KihMrbTqBriEic

with 25 % of players born outside the U.S....... We need a bigger Map as that one is limited to the U.S.

[PaladinFan]

no Newcomb?

Reporting is that the Braves wanted to use their right handed starters against Philly and save the lefties (Newcomb + Fried) for Chicago. Newcomb will start the home opener.

I hadn't thought about this, but the Phillies lineup is heavy on right handed hitters. Harper and Herrera bat left, and Hernandez is a switch hitter, but the rest of the lineup is RH.

[TheValleyRaider]

Prediction time!

AL
East: *Yankees, *Red Sox, *Rays, Blue Jays, Orioles
Central: *Indians, Twins, White Sox, Royals, Tigers
West: *Astros, Athletics, Angels, Mariners, Rangers

NL
East: *Phillies, *Braves, Nationals, Mets, Marlins
Central: *Cardinals, *Brewers, Cubs, Reds, Pirates
West: *Dodgers, Rockies, Padres, Diamondbacks, Giants

Wild Card: Red Sox over Rays; Brewers over Braves
Division: Astros over Red Sox; Yankees over Indians; Dodgers over Brewers; Cardinals over Phillies
LCS: Astros over Yankees; Dodgers over Cardinals
World Series: Dodgers over Astros

[ngineer]

Reporting is that the Braves wanted to use their right handed starters against Philly and save the lefties (Newcomb + Fried) for Chicago. Newcomb will start the home opener.

I hadn't thought about this, but the Phillies lineup is heavy on right handed hitters. Harper and Herrera bat left, and Hernandez is a switch hitter, but the rest of the lineup is RH.

I wouldn't call 5/8 of the lineup "right handed heavy" (I don't consider pitchers). One of the major focus on getting Harper was the need to balance things out in the lineup. Will be interesting to see what order Kapler uses...and whether he sticks with it for any period of time. He drove people nuts last year tinkering with the batting order. Nola and Arrieta looking sharp this past week. Looking forward to Thursday!

[bonarae]

Opening Day is at last upon us...

deGrom just signed an extension... Eloy and Tatis Jr. are on the Majors' rosters for their respective teams for Opening Day...

[PaladinFan]

I wouldn't call 5/8 of the lineup "right handed heavy" (I don't consider pitchers). One of the major focus on getting Harper was the need to balance things out in the lineup. Will be interesting to see what order Kapler uses...and whether he sticks with it for any period of time. He drove people nuts last year tinkering with the batting order. Nola and Arrieta looking sharp this past week. Looking forward to Thursday!

It's not too heavy, but not quite as balanced as you'd like. The Phillies will almost assuredly have to bat righties back-to-back twice in the lineup.

Unfortunately, the Phillies won't see a healthy Braves staff in the opening series. No Foltynewicz, no Gausman, no Minter, no O'Day. However, later in the year, the Braves pen may create matchup problems against Philadelphia.

Atlanta will likely carry at least three and maybe four lefties in the pen (some teams don't carry any). If healthy, O'Day is a sidewinder who is historically really tough on righties. The Braves also have two guys that can close and throw from either side (Minter and Vizcaino).

Because of the available lefties, multiple closers, and a situational righty, no one is really "locked" into a pitching role, Atlanta can play matchups with Kapler in the late innings.

[MR. CHICKEN]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30335&stc=1.........PLAY BALL!

[Bisonator]

Opening day wooohooo the Twins are still in it! xlolx

[Laker]

Nationals fan:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2xFwr9WoAEVbOs.jpg

[TheKingpin28]

The best team in baseball and THE BEST PLAYER; MARKUS LYNN BETTS take off at 6pm! Time to see BoSox crush it again this year.

[bonarae]

Records have been rewritten on this Opening Day...

Dodgers hit 8 HRs, the most ever...
Opposing starting pitchers throw at least 10 Ks in the SAME GAME for just the second time ever (first since 1970)

[caribbeanhen]

Opening day wooohooo the Twins are still in it! xlolx

What was the temp in the Minnesota game ?

Jose Berrios is one hard-working kid he works out like a beast down here in the off-season

[Laker]

What was the temp in the Minnesota game ?

Jose Berrios is one hard-working kid he works out like a beast down here in the off-season

Game time temp: 49

Time of game: Two hours eighteen minutes.

Attendance: 39,519. Capacity: 39,500

[caribbeanhen]

Game time temp: 49

Time of game: Two hours eighteen minutes.

Attendance: 39,519. Capacity: 39,500

thanks Laker..... it's hard to find attendance in the box scores anymore.... I guess 49 is warm enough for March in the Twin Cities

nice game time as well, get the ball and throw it..... Berrios probably wanted to get out of the cold as quick as he could

[ngineer]

Phllies had a very nice opener scoring 10 runs and showing why their lineup will be very difficult to navigate if all pull their weight. Bottom of the line up got the key hits with runners on base, and then Hoskins crushes a grand salami after Harper intentionally walked. That's the type of 'pick me up' needed on a winner. Loooong way to go, but a real sense of optimism. Nola looked real good. Though he walked five, some were nit-picking calls. Still 8Ks in 6 innings, 1 ER. McCutcheon lead off homer only the second time in Phillies history on opening day. Still don't understand why the day after the opener they don't play....?

[PaladinFan]

Phllies had a very nice opener scoring 10 runs and showing why their lineup will be very difficult to navigate if all pull their weight. Bottom of the line up got the key hits with runners on base, and then Hoskins crushes a grand salami after Harper intentionally walked. That's the type of 'pick me up' needed on a winner. Loooong way to go, but a real sense of optimism. Nola looked real good. Though he walked five, some were nit-picking calls. Still 8Ks in 6 innings, 1 ER. McCutcheon lead off homer only the second time in Phillies history on opening day. Still don't understand why the day after the opener they don't play....?

Teams historically leave open the second day of the season to serve as insurance against an opening day rainout.

[PaladinFan]

Records have been rewritten on this Opening Day...

Dodgers hit 8 HRs, the most ever...
Opposing starting pitchers throw at least 10 Ks in the SAME GAME for just the second time ever (first since 1970)

After hitting a pinch hit homer in his first appearance as a Brave, Matt Joyce is hitting 1.000/1.000/4.000 with an OPS of 5.000 in Atlanta. So, he's perfect.

[caribbeanhen]

Paladin, not sure about you but I have some concerns about the Braves this year,
the electricity coming out of Philly yesterday was very noticeable, the City is all a gaga with the Harper signing, players looked loose and having fun...

now of course Nola was pitching and he shuts almost everyone down but the Braves just dont have the firepower to stay with the NL East this year

and all the question marks with the pitching staff and the injuries ....

Kyle Wright has a big oppurtunity to change my mind...... Yes I realize it's a long season but right now Braves are a third or even fourth place team in baseballs best division

[PaladinFan]

Paladin, not sure about you but I have some concerns about the Braves this year,
the electricity coming out of Philly yesterday was very noticeable, the City is all a gaga with the Harper signing, players looked loose and having fun...

now of course Nola was pitching and he shuts almost everyone down but the Braves just dont have the firepower to stay with the NL East this year

and all the question marks with the pitching staff and the injuries ....

Kyle Wright has a big oppurtunity to change my mind...... Yes I realize it's a long season but right now Braves are a third or even fourth place team in baseballs best division

Overreaction, in my opinion.

The Phillies are improved, certainly. You have to remember, though, that the Phils finished 10 games behind the Braves last year. So, Philadelphia had a lot of ground to make up. I also think the Braves are better. Josh Donaldson, if healthy, is a huge upgrade. Johan Carmago and Brian McCann on the bench is a huge upgrade over Preston Tucker and Ryan Flaherty from last season.

Luke Jackson had a horrible day. His spot on the 25 man roster is tenuous and really the only reason he stays on there is because he's out of options. I would imagine he'll be placed on waivers as soon as Minter or O'Day is ready. So, in one game, the Phillies teed off on the worst pitcher on the Braves' staff. It isn't the end of the world.

By the same token, the Phillies used arguably their two best relievers (Robertson and Neris), who gave up 4 hits, 3 runs, and a homer in 2 innings. So middle relief is still a concern there as well. With the slam, the Phillies were far enough ahead where that didn't matter.

1 game of 162 isn't a big deal. Heck, last year after the first 3 games it looked like Gabe Kapler was way over his head managing a major league team. Things change.

The Braves need to get their pitching staff healthy. I'd love to see them sign Craig Kimbrel, who makes complete sense for Atlanta.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Overreaction, in my opinion.

The Phillies are improved, certainly. You have to remember, though, that the Phils finished 10 games behind the Braves last year. So, Philadelphia had a lot of ground to make up. I also think the Braves are better. Josh Donaldson, if healthy, is a huge upgrade. Johan Carmago and Brian McCann on the bench is a huge upgrade over Preston Tucker and Ryan Flaherty from last season.

Luke Jackson had a horrible day. His spot on the 25 man roster is tenuous and really the only reason he stays on there is because he's out of options. I would imagine he'll be placed on waivers as soon as Minter or O'Day is ready. So, in one game, the Phillies teed off on the worst pitcher on the Braves' staff. It isn't the end of the world.

By the same token, the Phillies used arguably their two best relievers (Robertson and Neris), who gave up 4 hits, 3 runs, and a homer in 2 innings. So middle relief is still a concern there as well. With the slam, the Phillies were far enough ahead where that didn't matter.

1 game of 162 isn't a big deal. Heck, last year after the first 3 games it looked like Gabe Kapler was way over his head managing a major league team. Things change.

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The Braves need to get their pitching staff healthy. I'd love to see them sign Craig Kimbrel, who makes complete sense for Atlanta.




........OR......PHILLY......BIG DUCATS....DAT MIGHTAH...BEEN IN DUH PIGGY....WAITIN' FO' TROUT......CAN NOW....BE SPENT..........LIKE [email protected] BEACH OUTLETS....xnodx...BRAWK!

[ngineer]

........OR......PHILLY......BIG DUCATS....DAT MIGHTAH...BEEN IN DUH PIGGY....WAITIN' FO' TROUT......CAN NOW....BE SPENT..........LIKE [email protected] BEACH OUTLETS....xnodx...BRAWK!

xdrunkyxxthumbsupx

[caribbeanhen]

Overreaction, in my opinion.

The Phillies are improved, certainly. You have to remember, though, that the Phils finished 10 games behind the Braves last year. So, Philadelphia had a lot of ground to make up. I also think the Braves are better. Josh Donaldson, if healthy, is a huge upgrade. Johan Carmago and Brian McCann on the bench is a huge upgrade over Preston Tucker and Ryan Flaherty from last season.

Luke Jackson had a horrible day. His spot on the 25 man roster is tenuous and really the only reason he stays on there is because he's out of options. I would imagine he'll be placed on waivers as soon as Minter or O'Day is ready. So, in one game, the Phillies teed off on the worst pitcher on the Braves' staff. It isn't the end of the world.

By the same token, the Phillies used arguably their two best relievers (Robertson and Neris), who gave up 4 hits, 3 runs, and a homer in 2 innings. So middle relief is still a concern there as well. With the slam, the Phillies were far enough ahead where that didn't matter.

1 game of 162 isn't a big deal. Heck, last year after the first 3 games it looked like Gabe Kapler was way over his head managing a major league team. Things change.

The Braves need to get their pitching staff healthy. I'd love to see them sign Craig Kimbrel, who makes complete sense for Atlanta.

I don't think Donaldson is going to do that much for a few reasons
LF in the new park seems like a canyon, it's not Toronto for sure, not conducive/// to power from right handed hitters

I was surprised to see how old he was, I was thinking maybe 29 or 30 but he is a few years older and his window is closing fast at that age

he has not been healthy for a few years, so if he can just stay healthy and get his AB's he might produce some but the Josh Donaldson we saw 5 years ago is not coming back

hope I'm wrong but I still say the Braves will fall short this year, maybe it will show ownership they need to go out and get it done......

[PaladinFan]

........OR......PHILLY......BIG DUCATS....DAT MIGHTAH...BEEN IN DUH PIGGY....WAITIN' FO' TROUT......CAN NOW....BE SPENT..........LIKE [email protected] BEACH OUTLETS....xnodx...BRAWK!

Braves fans have had a miserable offseason, which is weird. You would think that a team stocked full of young talent coming off a division title would have the fans excited.

The fans have a growing distrust of the team owner, Liberty Media. There are numerous reports of the Braves' revenue increasing hundreds of millions with the new stadium and mixed use facility around the park. In spite of that, the Braves did virtually nothing this offseason besides repurposing the money they had been paying Matt Kemp to pay Josh Donaldson. All that while the other NL East teams were very active getting better.

The fans have entered 2019 in a bit of a funk. What should have been an exciting start to the season has felt like the Braves are just an investment in a media conglomerate whose primary goal is profit, not winning baseball. The payroll coming off a division title with a young core of players is less this year than it was last year.

The first two games basically reinforced that - Atlanta has a young talented offense but a lot of concerns in the bullpen.

That is to say, if Craig Kimbrel ends up in Philly, the fans are going to lose their minds on ownership. The Braves need bullpen help, Kimbrel is from Alabama, he wants to play for the Braves, he's a fan favorite, and would go into the Hall of Fame with an "A" on his hat. If he ends up with a division rival because of miserly owners, the Braves will have a PR nightmare.

[MR. CHICKEN]

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[TheKingpin28]

Red Sox have no pitching. :(

[bonarae]

Red Sox have no pitching. :(

So do the Cubs, but with the relievers. xsmhx

[TheKingpin28]

So do the Cubs, but with the relievers. xsmhx

This could be a long season if they expect the offense to bail them out on a frequent basis.

[PaladinFan]

I'm not sure I can take a full year of the national sports media fawning over Bryce Harper's every move like they do Zion Williamson. I'm already over it.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Took Kapler 3 games to throw some jabs at the Braves....

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26412934/phils-kapler-blows-braves-hoskins-hbp

[PaladinFan]

Took Kapler 3 games to throw some jabs at the Braves....

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26412934/phils-kapler-blows-braves-hoskins-hbp

Apparently Kapler, Hoskins, and, I guess, Drake, are the only people that thought that was intentional.

I'd feel differently if there was a single pitcher on either side that could throw consistent strikes in that weather. Neither starter could find the strike zone and Arrieta had already hit Dansby Swanson with a ball up around his chin.

Hoskins apparently remembered who was catching yesterday before showed too much of his hind end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAxJunWPDdg

[ngineer]

Apparently Kapler, Hoskins, and, I guess, Drake, are the only people that thought that was intentional.

I'd feel differently if there was a single pitcher on either side that could throw consistent strikes in that weather. Neither starter could find the strike zone and Arrieta had already hit Dansby Swanson with a ball up around his chin.

Hoskins apparently remembered who was catching yesterday before showed too much of his hind end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAxJunWPDdg

Did they ever count that run for Gomez's HR?

Weird game last night with the way the wind affected play. I agree pitchers on both sides had control issues with the cold and wind. But for the fact the HBP came right after Harper's HR, I don't think the pitcher would have been tossed, but maybe warned. Probably wanted to pitch tight but lost control. Hoskins already broke his jaw last year on a tight pitch that riccocheted off his bat, so I think Kapler more interested in sending a message to the umpires, in general, that this better not become a pattern as the year goes on. Last time Phillies began year with a three game sweep was 2011. Tuesday night in Washington--should be fun!

[PaladinFan]

Did they ever count that run for Gomez's HR?

Weird game last night with the way the wind affected play. I agree pitchers on both sides had control issues with the cold and wind. But for the fact the HBP came right after Harper's HR, I don't think the pitcher would have been tossed, but maybe warned. Probably wanted to pitch tight but lost control. Hoskins already broke his jaw last year on a tight pitch that riccocheted off his bat, so I think Kapler more interested in sending a message to the umpires, in general, that this better not become a pattern as the year goes on. Last time Phillies began year with a three game sweep was 2011. Tuesday night in Washington--should be fun!

My general take is that the Phillies offense is as advertised. Realmuto will do a great deal for run prevention, and at least through one series, the defense looks a lot better than last year.

I think that there are still some concerns for the Phillies in the pitching staff. Nola will be fine, and so will Arietta, but Pivetta didn't really inspire confidence on Saturday. Two of the better arms in the pen, Robertson and Neris, were both hit pretty hard.

Of course, I don't think that's necessarily surprising. Going into the year the question for Philadelphia is simply whether they can outscore teams. I don't think you'll see them win a lot of 3-2 ball games. I think you'll see a lot of games like we saw this weekend, 10-4, 8-6, that sort of thing.

I won't read too much into this singular series early in the year. The next time these teams meet, Atlanta will likely look a good bit different. The Phillies offense was strong, but benefitted over three games from roughly half of the innings being pitched by guys who likely won't be on the MLB roster in two weeks - Wilson, Wright, Carle, Tomlin, and Jackson.

[ngineer]

My general take is that the Phillies offense is as advertised. Realmuto will do a great deal for run prevention, and at least through one series, the defense looks a lot better than last year.

I think that there are still some concerns for the Phillies in the pitching staff. Nola will be fine, and so will Arietta, but Pivetta didn't really inspire confidence on Saturday. Two of the better arms in the pen, Robertson and Neris, were both hit pretty hard.

Of course, I don't think that's necessarily surprising. Going into the year the question for Philadelphia is simply whether they can outscore teams. I don't think you'll see them win a lot of 3-2 ball games. I think you'll see a lot of games like we saw this weekend, 10-4, 8-6, that sort of thing.

I won't read too much into this singular series early in the year. The next time these teams meet, Atlanta will likely look a good bit different. The Phillies offense was strong, but benefitted over three games from roughly half of the innings being pitched by guys who likely won't be on the MLB roster in two weeks - Wilson, Wright, Carle, Tomlin, and Jackson.

Don't disagree. Been following this sport and this team too long to get overly excited in late March/early April. But tis better than being on the other end. BTW...Did Gomez get his HR counted in that video?

[PaladinFan]

Don't disagree. Been following this sport and this team too long to get overly excited in late March/early April. But tis better than being on the other end. BTW...Did Gomez get his HR counted in that video?

Yes. I think it technically becomes an obstruction call even though he never touches home.

I remember watching that game live. Bizarre series of events.

[PaladinFan]

Braves become the last team to win a game in the MLB, but do it with style, pounding Chicago 8-0.

The Cubs committed 6 errors in the game, and a number of them were things I'd have jumped on my little league team about. It's rare to see an MLB team commit that many mental errors in a baseball game.

[ngineer]

Yes. I think it technically becomes an obstruction call even though he never touches home.

I remember watching that game live. Bizarre series of events.

Thanks. I assumed they did, but in bizarro world one never assumes anything.

Bryce Harper returns to Washington DC tonight--and the Phillies station is NOT carrying it???!!! The walking dead Flyers game is on! I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Phillies fans scarfed up a lot of tickets when he signed. IF the Phils win tonight, it will be the first time SINCE 1915 that they started a season 4-0! xdizzyx

[PaladinFan]

Just reported - the Braves are finalizing a contract extension with Ronald Acuna for 8 years at $100m with two option years at $17m a piece.

In an offseason full of extensions, this looks like such a great deal for both sides. Acuna goes from making essentially the league minimum to $10m a year. He will stay in a Braves uniform until he's in his early 30s. There's risk for both sides, but a great benefit for Atlanta.

Atlanta essentially buys out the prime years of a guy who may well soon be the best player in baseball. Pretty incredible.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Thanks. I assumed they did, but in bizarro world one never assumes anything.

Bryce Harper returns to Washington DC tonight--and the Phillies station is NOT carrying it???!!! The walking dead Flyers game is on! I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Phillies fans scarfed up a lot of tickets when he signed. IF the Phils win tonight, it will be the first time SINCE 1915 that they started a season 4-0! xdizzyx


.....REASON FO' BLACKOUT......SCHEDULED....TA BE ON DUH....MLB CHANNEL.......PER DUH NEWS JOURNAL..........AWK!

.......PS....MAY NOT MATTERAH MUCH.....AS RAIN.....SKEDDED FO' D.C......WASH-OUT.....OR JES' 'NUFF TA ALLOW PLAY....xdontknowx....AWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

Just reported - the Braves are finalizing a contract extension with Ronald Acuna for 8 years at $100m with two option years at $17m a piece.

In an offseason full of extensions, this looks like such a great deal for both sides. Acuna goes from making essentially the league minimum to $10m a year. He will stay in a Braves uniform until he's in his early 30s. There's risk for both sides, but a great benefit for Atlanta.

Atlanta essentially buys out the prime years of a guy who may well soon be the best player in baseball. Pretty incredible.

....IFIN' DAT'S DUH CASE............HE SIGNED AWAY.....$200 MILLION +........xbawlingx.........AWK!

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Trading has started THIS early...

Kevin Pillar is off to the Bay, to his home state... https://www.mlb.com/news/giants-trade-for-kevin-pillar-from-blue-jays

Socrates Brito, a rising star in San Diego, is off to Toronto... https://www.mlb.com/news/socrates-brito-traded-from-padres-to-blue-jays

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Prayers for Bobby Cox, who is now in the hospital after a possible stroke... https://www.mlb.com/news/bobby-cox-hospitalized-in-atlanta

[ngineer]

.....REASON FO' BLACKOUT......SCHEDULED....TA BE ON DUH....MLB CHANNEL.......PER DUH NEWS JOURNAL..........AWK!

.......PS....MAY NOT MATTERAH MUCH.....AS RAIN.....SKEDDED FO' D.C......WASH-OUT.....OR JES' 'NUFF TA ALLOW PLAY....xdontknowx....AWK!

MLB was not carrying the game when I checked last night. Had to follow along on MLB Gameday website. While working. ...but the Phils won, again, and Bryce had fun.

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Just reported - the Braves are finalizing a contract extension with Ronald Acuna for 8 years at $100m with two option years at $17m a piece.

In an offseason full of extensions, this looks like such a great deal for both sides. Acuna goes from making essentially the league minimum to $10m a year. He will stay in a Braves uniform until he's in his early 30s. There's risk for both sides, but a great benefit for Atlanta.

Atlanta essentially buys out the prime years of a guy who may well soon be the best player in baseball. Pretty incredible.

Yes, good deal for both. How many millions does one need. He's making alot more now than they need to pay, and he's carried through his prime.

[MR. CHICKEN]

[QUOTE=ngineer;2763099]MLB was not carrying the game when I checked last night. Had to follow along on MLB Gameday website. While working. ...but the Phils won, again, and Bryce had fun.

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[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

In all six divisions in baseball, will we see new division champions at the end of the season? xchinscratchx

[PaladinFan]

MLB was not carrying the game when I checked last night. Had to follow along on MLB Gameday website. While working. ...but the Phils won, again, and Bryce had fun.

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Yes, good deal for both. How many millions does one need. He's making alot more now than they need to pay, and he's carried through his prime.

It's an interesting shift in the economics of baseball. Acuna is now set for life, but many would argue that he's potentially leaving a ton of money on the table by sacrificing prime years of free agency.

Top players right now want nothing to do with free agency. Many have signed extensions. Next year's free agent class is already looking incredibly weak as many of the prime players have already takent themselves off the board.

Besides, if you can make life changing money and stay where you want to, why not?

[MR. CHICKEN]

It's an interesting shift in the economics of baseball. Acuna is now set for life, but many would argue that he's potentially leaving a ton of money on the table by sacrificing prime years of free agency.

Top players right now want nothing to do with free agency. Many have signed extensions. Next year's free agent class is already looking incredibly weak as many of the prime players have already takent themselves off the board.

Besides, if you can make life changing money and stay where you want to, why not?

.......BUT....."BEST PLAYER IN BASEBALL".......xconfusedx...........AWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

......MEANWHILST..........NOLA....GIVES UP 3 DINGERS....AN' 6 RUNS....IN THREE INNIN'S.........AN' ROBERTSON HAD.....THIRD BAD APPEARENCE......UH SINGLE.....3 STRAIGHT BB's........WALKIN' IN DUH WINNIN' RUN.....HIS ERA 18.00......DON'T LIKE FRANCO....BATTIN' EIGHT.....ALREADY LEADS....MAJORS......WITH 5 INTENTIONAL WALKS......TA GET TA PITCHER/PINCH-HITTER.....AH'D FLIP HERNANDEZ.......LET PITCHER BUNT HIM OVERAH......FRANCO'S BAT IS BIG.....RIGHT NOW......OR MAYBEAH DROP REALMUTO DOWN TA 8.........AS HE'S PRETTY QUIET.....BUT MAKE 'EM PITCH TA FRANCO.......AWK!

[PaladinFan]

.......BUT....."BEST PLAYER IN BASEBALL".......xconfusedx...........AWK!

Acuna isn't the best player in baseball. I think he will be and potentially already is in that upper echelon, though.

There are not many comparable deals for a player this early in his career. It's fun, though. As a fan, you start hearing about Ronald Acuna when he is 17 playing in the instructional leagues and now you get to watch him nightly for the next 10 years.

[PaladinFan]

Well, things turned around quickly. Braves sweep a good Chicago team.

[bonarae]

And the Cubs, Red Sox are fading fast as well...

Sounds like it's the small market teams' time to make the playoffs...

[ngineer]

......MEANWHILST..........NOLA....GIVES UP 3 DINGERS....AN' 6 RUNS....IN THREE INNIN'S.........AN' ROBERTSON HAD.....THIRD BAD APPEARENCE......UH SINGLE.....3 STRAIGHT BB's........WALKIN' IN DUH WINNIN' RUN.....HIS ERA 18.00......DON'T LIKE FRANCO....BATTIN' EIGHT.....ALREADY LEADS....MAJORS......WITH 5 INTENTIONAL WALKS......TA GET TA PITCHER/PINCH-HITTER.....AH'D FLIP HERNANDEZ.......LET PITCHER BUNT HIM OVERAH......FRANCO'S BAT IS BIG.....RIGHT NOW......OR MAYBEAH DROP REALMUTO DOWN TA 8.........AS HE'S PRETTY QUIET.....BUT MAKE 'EM PITCH TA FRANCO.......AWK!

In addition, the defense reared it's ugly head. After four games without an error, three in one, and a killer by Hoskins. Well, they weren't going to go 162-0...

[caribbeanhen]

Well, things turned around quickly. Braves sweep a good Chicago team.

Cubs at 1-6, are they still good? NL East is a beast, should be a fun summer. Only known is Miami is dead last

[bonarae]

Cubs at 1-6, are they still good? NL East is a beast, should be a fun summer. Only known is Miami is dead last

The relief pitching sucks. And possibly hitting... xbawlingx

I'll root for the White Sox or the Twins in the meantime.... only if the Indians have imploded. xlolx

[MR. CHICKEN]

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Phils lose 6-2 to the Twins

- Not sold on Arrieta. He was hanging on by a thread today. He doesn't have the goods at this point to be a reliable #2. I wouldn't trust him at his early season #3 slot in a playoff series. Honestly, outside of Nola I still see a lot of ups and downs with this current rotation.
- The Bullpen still has the makings of a mess.

[PaladinFan]

Braves find themselves in a bit of a catching crunch as McCann strained his hamstring running to third and then Tyler Flowers took a fastball off his hand after replacing him.

Looks like the Braves will call up Alex Jackson (the only other catcher on the 40 man) for his major league debut.

[clenz]

Thanks. I assumed they did, but in bizarro world one never assumes anything.

Bryce Harper returns to Washington DC tonight--and the Phillies station is NOT carrying it???!!! The walking dead Flyers game is on! I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Phillies fans scarfed up a lot of tickets when he signed. IF the Phils win tonight, it will be the first time SINCE 1915 that they started a season 4-0! xdizzyxAs someone that lives in Iowa, I laugh at your "blackout pain"

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

[PaladinFan]

Phils lose 6-2 to the Twins

- Not sold on Arrieta. He was hanging on by a thread today. He doesn't have the goods at this point to be a reliable #2. I wouldn't trust him at his early season #3 slot in a playoff series. Honestly, outside of Nola I still see a lot of ups and downs with this current rotation.
- The Bullpen still has the makings of a mess.

The Phillies are going to have to club teams to death. I don't think they are going to win a lot of low scoring ball games.

What is to be seen is whether the Phillies engage in a cycle that seems to snare a lot of big market clubs. You spend a lot of money on the roster, and then feel compelled to spend more money to plug holes. That rarely seems to be a recipe for success.

[Laker]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3mGv8PW0AACgF_.jpg

[ngineer]

The Phillies are going to have to club teams to death. I don't think they are going to win a lot of low scoring ball games.

What is to be seen is whether the Phillies engage in a cycle that seems to snare a lot of big market clubs. You spend a lot of money on the roster, and then feel compelled to spend more money to plug holes. That rarely seems to be a recipe for success.

well, they got one today, beating the Twins 2-1. Eflin with his second straight quality start (7 IP). Gave up HR in first and commanded from there on. Phils rallied in the 6th with a walk to Harper and blast by Hoskins, who battled back from a 0-2 hole to 3-2 and fouled off three before connecting. A great at bat. Still very early, but I see Pivetta and Eflin as having the potential to be big contributors this year. Bullpen full of question marks. Neris was lights out I the 9th today, with 2Ks, but who knows tomorrow. Can't believe Kimbrel still 'out there'.

[PaladinFan]

well, they got one today, beating the Twins 2-1. Eflin with his second straight quality start (7 IP). Gave up HR in first and commanded from there on. Phils rallied in the 6th with a walk to Harper and blast by Hoskins, who battled back from a 0-2 hole to 3-2 and fouled off three before connecting. A great at bat. Still very early, but I see Pivetta and Eflin as having the potential to be big contributors this year. Bullpen full of question marks. Neris was lights out I the 9th today, with 2Ks, but who knows tomorrow. Can't believe Kimbrel still 'out there'.

Not only out there, but there are very few rumors connecting either Kimbrel or Keuchel to anyone.

I guess if things rock on long enough, they may just wait until after the draft to sign when their draft pick compensation will fall away.

[PaladinFan]

After being the last team to notch a win this season, the Braves reeled off a 5-1 homestand against the Cubs and Marlins.

Best news of the year so far for the Braves is the reemergence of Dansby Swanson. He's supposed to be finally healthy this year after wrist injuries. Hard to argue with the results, as he's hammering the ball to all fields.

[bonarae]

Not only out there, but there are very few rumors connecting either Kimbrel or Keuchel to anyone.

I guess if things rock on long enough, they may just wait until after the draft to sign when their draft pick compensation will fall away.

Or will they end up 'the next Lincecum'? xconfusedx

[PaladinFan]

Or will they end up 'the next Lincecum'? xconfusedx

I mean, there's reason for teams to be wary.

Andrew Miller was un-hittable two years ago, and can barely find the strike zone for St. Louis this year. Greg Holland signed a big contract and fell off the deep end last season to the point he was dfa'd.

Every team has a pen full of guys throwing 95mph. Is it worth paying nearly $20m a year to a one inning reliever who is just as likely to fall off the cliff as he is to close out the world series? Why not just go with one of those guys.

We are in a new era of baseball economics. Guys are avoiding free agency. Younger players are taking the money on the table earlier. There are massive cautionary tales like Chris Davis' 7 year 161 million dollar deal to point to. Davis batted .168 last year and is currently in an 0-40something skid. Literally you can find just about anyone in the minors to play for peanuts and be more productive than that. Heck, most pitchers are more productive hitters than that.

[caribbeanhen]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3mGv8PW0AACgF_.jpg

interesting that the Pirate that met loco Puig face to face was an old coach, reminded me of Don Zimmer

[caribbeanhen]

I mean, there's reason for teams to be wary.

Andrew Miller was un-hittable two years ago, and can barely find the strike zone for St. Louis this year. Greg Holland signed a big contract and fell off the deep end last season to the point he was dfa'd.

Every team has a pen full of guys throwing 95mph. Is it worth paying nearly $20m a year to a one inning reliever who is just as likely to fall off the cliff as he is to close out the world series? Why not just go with one of those guys.

We are in a new era of baseball economics. Guys are avoiding free agency. Younger players are taking the money on the table earlier. There are massive cautionary tales like Chris Davis' 7 year 161 million dollar deal to point to. Davis batted .168 last year and is currently in an 0-40something skid. Literally you can find just about anyone in the minors to play for peanuts and be more productive than that. Heck, most pitchers are more productive hitters than that.

I generally agree with you here but not sure Sean Newcomb will, Braves bullpen cost him a win yesterday.

I hate seeing a closer who blows a lead get credited with the starters win

[PaladinFan]

I generally agree with you here but not sure Sean Newcomb will, Braves bullpen cost him a win yesterday.

I hate seeing a closer who blows a lead get credited with the starters win

Bullpens, like any position, will have their weak moments. I was at a Braves game years ago where John Smoltz (as closer) was tagged for 9 runs in an inning. It happens. The hope is that it just does not become consistent.

If the Braves stand pat, I think they will look to some combination of Minter and Vizcaino for high leverage situations in the 8th and 9th. Chad Sobotka is young, and may be targeted for a 7th/8th inning role. There's also a lot to like about Wes Parsons, who had a strong spring and has a lot of swing-and-miss stuff.

One guy I keep an eye on is Luiz Gohara. Gohara had a lot of off-field issues last year, but is reportedly in good shape but couldn't stay healthy this spring. From what I've seen, he's got a fastball in the upper 90s and a wipeout slider. If he can get back, he had top notch stuff and seems destined for the bullpen at some point.

[PaladinFan]

Acuna homers last night to lead the Braves. That was the second home run this year where Acuna has jumped on a good pitch down in the zone and driven it over the right field fence.

There are not that many players in the MLB that can drive a ball low and a way opposite field for a homer. That's some kind of strong.

[PaladinFan]

Watched Sunday night baseball this week. Got a chance to see Nolan Arenado - a guy I really wish I could see more of. He put on a third base clinic with Alex Rodriguez. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5fjIKZMmXA

If you watch nothing else, check out the throws starting about the 11:30 mark. Probably 15 feet behind third base, one knee, dead strike to first. That's probably close to 150 feet from one knee.

[ngineer]

I generally agree with you here but not sure Sean Newcomb will, Braves bullpen cost him a win yesterday.

I hate seeing a closer who blows a lead get credited with the starters win

Absolutely, the worst scoring injustice in all of sport. I have railed against this for years. He should at least be credited with the blown save, and I understand he is pitcher of record when the winning run scores, but does not seem right.

[ngineer]

Phils won another low scoring one-run game last night as they beat the Nats 4-3. Kapler easing Roberston back into action, but not closing, after disasterous start to season. Neshak closed last night. Operating as a committee for now. Hoskins two dingers with the first giving them the lead and the last one providing the winning margin. He could be on his way to a very impressive year. Nola v. Strasburg tonight.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

All streaks must come to an end. :(

deGrom can't surpass Gibson just yet...

[PaladinFan]

Max Fried, who is the front end of the Braves young pitching movement, threw another gem last night at Coors. Zero earned runs in his last 12 innings.

A lot of folks compare fried to a young Cole Hamels - lanky lefty with mid-90s fastball and one of the league's best curves.

[MR. CHICKEN]

.......HELP!.......PHILLIES NEED....KIMBREL...BIG TIME!....AWK!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

.......HELP!.......PHILLIES NEED....KIMBREL...BIG TIME!....AWK!
Ricky Bo was pleading for Kimbrel during Postgame Live last night! The backend of the bullpen is awful!!

[caribbeanhen]

Max Fried, who is the front end of the Braves young pitching movement, threw another gem last night at Coors. Zero earned runs in his last 12 innings.

A lot of folks compare fried to a young Cole Hamels - lanky lefty with mid-90s fastball and one of the league's best curves.

lets follow up with a healthy Soroka, who pitched 5 no hit innings in first AAA start

[MR. CHICKEN]

Ricky Bo was pleading for Kimbrel during Postgame Live last night! The backend of the bullpen is awful!!

....AH SHUT IT OFF....RIGHT AFTERAH.....DUH PHIGHTIN'S....WENT OUT LIKE DUH MARLINS...IN BOTTOM UH NINTH..........WAS FASTIN' FO' BLOOD WORK.......WATCHED ENTIRE GAME...WHIFF OUT....ALCOHOL.....WITCH WAS SOMEWHAT.....OKAY....TIL....NOLA.....RAN OUTTAH....ELECTROLYTES..........xpissedx.......... .BRAWK!

[PaladinFan]

Ricky Bo was pleading for Kimbrel during Postgame Live last night! The backend of the bullpen is awful!!

Certainly a concern.

While the Phillies' pen wasn't particularly overwhelming last year, it noticeably didn't get much attention during the spending spree this offseason. What may be problematic for Philadelphia is that right now, 4 of the top 10 offenses in baseball are in the NL East (Braves, Nats, Phils, and Mets).

So, any divisional team is going to have to get quality relief appearances against a plurality of really good offenses.

[ngineer]

Consistency is the problem. All of these guys have shown flashes of brilliance over the past two years, but then go in the hopper for couple weeks. Robertson was to bring some stability to the pen, but he's off to a rough start as well. Kimbrel certainly has a fertile field to play in with all the teams looking for relief arms, but how long can he sit. And with Trout now no longer a need to horde money, management should be looking seriously either at Kimbrel and/or Keuchel.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Consistency is the problem. All of these guys have shown flashes of brilliance over the past two years, but then go in the hopper for couple weeks. Robertson was to bring some stability to the pen, but he's off to a rough start as well. Kimbrel certainly has a fertile field to play in with all the teams looking for relief arms, but how long can he sit. And with Trout now no longer a need to horde money, management should be looking seriously either at Kimbrel and/or Keuchel.

...........NOT FUNNY.....WHEN AN OUTFIELDER...OUT PITCHES.........DUH PEN...........BRAWK!

[PaladinFan]

Braves lost tonight, but also announced an extension to keep Albies in Atlanta on another team-friendly deal. While Atlanta didn't spend much in free agency, they've been busy locking up their young core for the foreseeable future.

Also, two mammoth home runs last night at SunTrust:

Pete Alonso - https://www.mlb.com/video/alonso-s-2-run-home-run

Ronald Acuna - https://www.mlb.com/news/ronald-acuna-jr-crushes-462-foot-home-run

Acuna's was 462 feet with an exit velocity of 111+ mph. Alonso's went 454 with a 118+ exit velo.

We'll be seeing those guys a while.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Consistency is the problem. All of these guys have shown flashes of brilliance over the past two years, but then go in the hopper for couple weeks. Robertson was to bring some stability to the pen, but he's off to a rough start as well. Kimbrel certainly has a fertile field to play in with all the teams looking for relief arms, but how long can he sit. And with Trout now no longer a need to horde money, management should be looking seriously either at Kimbrel and/or Keuchel.

The Phils lack a true #2 at this point and the bullpen is a dumpster fire. Arrieta is ok but he throws some real meatballs at times. My hope is he can eat up some innings when he starts and hold the other teams 4 runs or less. Pivetta's numbers since the end of last year are terrible. His status in the rotation at this point needs to be questioned.

They'll be in the mix due their killer offense and "ok" pitching staff; which is carried by Nola. But unless they make a couple of moves from now until the trade deadline I doubt the Phils will serious contend for the WS....

[Laker]

The Tigers at Twins game has been snowed out tonight. It will be made up as a day-night doubleheader in mid May.

[PaladinFan]

The Phils lack a true #2 at this point and the bullpen is a dumpster fire. Arrieta is ok but he throws some real meatballs at times. My hope is he can eat up some innings when he starts and hold the other teams 4 runs or less. Pivetta's numbers since the end of last year are terrible. His status in the rotation at this point needs to be questioned.

They'll be in the mix due their killer offense and "ok" pitching staff; which is carried by Nola. But unless they make a couple of moves from now until the trade deadline I doubt the Phils will serious contend for the WS....

Sometimes, when a team spends a lot of money in free agency, they are implicitly admitting that their roster has a lot of holes.

I think history suggests that the best way to build a team is with a strong core of younger controllable players and then supplemented by veteran free agents and strategic trades. This is how the Phillies won in the mid-2000s. This is how the Braves built their dynasty in the 90s. You get a central core of talent and then go get a Cliff Lee or a Greg Maddux.

What rarely works is to have a team full of holes, throw a bunch of money at it, and hope it works out. The caution for the Phillies is that you get to the point where you've spent so much money on the current roster, that you almost HAVE to go all in to fill holes that keep popping up. At some point, you run out of capital (either prospects or money) and have to start over.

[PaladinFan]

The Tigers at Twins game has been snowed out tonight. It will be made up as a day-night doubleheader in mid May.

Braves were snowed out in Colorado a few days ago. That's the second time in recent memory Atlanta has had a cancelled game in Denver due to snow.

I have never, and probably will never, understand MLB's need to send non-division opponents to cold-weather cities in April. Send division teams up there, which can easily make up a game during one of two or three future series. Don't send a non-division team to cities with notoriously bad April weather and then have to make up a single game on an off day later in the year.

[MR. CHICKEN]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30387&stc=1......PHILS....PITCHIN' STAFF....IS PRETTY MUCH SAME....AS LAST YEAR........WHEN PHIGHTIN'S....LED NL EAST....TIL AUGUST......WHIFF LINE-UP....UH TERRIBLE BATTIN' AVERAGES.....AN' HORRENDOUS.....AMOUNT...UH LOB'S.......EKEIN' OUT....ONE RUN GAMES........PITCHERS ARE OUTTAH SYNC........PIVETTA'S TROUBLES......HAPPEN....AFTERAH TWO STRIKES.....HE SUDDENLAH GOES CAREFUL......WHICH IS WHEN HE GETS SMACKED 'ROUND......WE DUMPED ALFERA....WHIFF HIS GREAT GUN....BUT GAVE UP BASES & RUNS....WHEN HE COODN'T DIG 'EM OUTTAH DIRT.......SANTANA WAS OWNLAH GOOD FO' WALKS..... HOSKINS..& ..FRANCO...HAD NO PROTECTION....ODDIE WAS ON FIRE EARLY.......LATER IN SEASON WENT SOUFF.......MENTAL BLUNDERS....&...GOT LAZY...DEY'RE WAS NO ONE TA PRESS HIM......WHIFF SEGURA/HARPER/MCCUTCHEON/REALMUTO............WE GET BIG BATS FO' RBI'S......BETTERAH DEFENSE.......ODDIE ON HIS TOES......&....FRANCO MO' RELAXED AB'S.....POINT IS...LAST SEASON'S PITCHERS....AREN'T DOIN' IT...SO FAR DIS SEASON.......COME AROUND...OR GO SHOPPIN'....FO' SOME WHO CAN...........BRAWK!

[ngineer]

Braves were snowed out in Colorado a few days ago. That's the second time in recent memory Atlanta has had a cancelled game in Denver due to snow.

I have never, and probably will never, understand MLB's need to send non-division opponents to cold-weather cities in April. Send division teams up there, which can easily make up a game during one of two or three future series. Don't send a non-division team to cities with notoriously bad April weather and then have to make up a single game on an off day later in the year.

Absolutely. Boggles the mind.

[ngineer]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30387&stc=1......PHILS....PITCHIN' STAFF....IS PRETTY MUCH SAME....AS LAST YEAR........WHEN PHIGHTIN'S....LED NL EAST....TIL AUGUST......WHIFF LINE-UP....UH TERRIBLE BATTIN' AVERAGES.....AN' HORRENDOUS.....AMOUNT...UH LOB'S.......EKEIN' OUT....ONE RUN GAMES........PITCHERS ARE OUTTAH SYNC........PIVETTA'S TROUBLES......HAPPEN....AFTERAH TWO STRIKES.....HE SUDDENLAH GOES CAREFUL......WHICH IS WHEN HE GETS SMACKED 'ROUND......WE DUMPED ALFERA....WHIFF HIS GREAT GUN....BUT GAVE UP BASES & RUNS....WHEN HE COODN'T DIG 'EM OUTTAH DIRT.......SANTANA WAS OWNLAH GOOD FO' WALKS..... HOSKINS..& ..FRANCO...HAD NO PROTECTION....ODDIE WAS ON FIRE EARLY.......LATER IN SEASON WENT SOUFF.......MENTAL BLUNDERS....&...GOT LAZY...DEY'RE WAS NO ONE TA PRESS HIM......WHIFF SEGURA/HARPER/MCCUTCHEON/REALMUTO............WE GET BIG BATS FO' RBI'S......BETTERAH DEFENSE.......ODDIE ON HIS TOES......&....FRANCO MO' RELAXED AB'S.....POINT IS...LAST SEASON'S PITCHERS....AREN'T DOIN' IT...SO FAR DIS SEASON.......COME AROUND...OR GO SHOPPIN'....FO' SOME WHO CAN...........BRAWK!

I think part of the problem is that it appeared to me and others that the 'work load' given the pitchers in training camp was reduced this year with more time spent on the up and comers, with the idea of 'easing' into the season. I feel like the pitchers are still in 'spring training mode' in trying to figure things out. They have some very good arms, but the location and control is not there, yet, and hopefully, that gels in the next 1-2 weeks.

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http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30387&stc=1......PHILS....PITCHIN' STAFF....IS PRETTY MUCH SAME....AS LAST YEAR........WHEN PHIGHTIN'S....LED NL EAST....TIL AUGUST......WHIFF LINE-UP....UH TERRIBLE BATTIN' AVERAGES.....AN' HORRENDOUS.....AMOUNT...UH LOB'S.......EKEIN' OUT....ONE RUN GAMES........PITCHERS ARE OUTTAH SYNC........PIVETTA'S TROUBLES......HAPPEN....AFTERAH TWO STRIKES.....HE SUDDENLAH GOES CAREFUL......WHICH IS WHEN HE GETS SMACKED 'ROUND......WE DUMPED ALFERA....WHIFF HIS GREAT GUN....BUT GAVE UP BASES & RUNS....WHEN HE COODN'T DIG 'EM OUTTAH DIRT.......SANTANA WAS OWNLAH GOOD FO' WALKS..... HOSKINS..& ..FRANCO...HAD NO PROTECTION....ODDIE WAS ON FIRE EARLY.......LATER IN SEASON WENT SOUFF.......MENTAL BLUNDERS....&...GOT LAZY...DEY'RE WAS NO ONE TA PRESS HIM......WHIFF SEGURA/HARPER/MCCUTCHEON/REALMUTO............WE GET BIG BATS FO' RBI'S......BETTERAH DEFENSE.......ODDIE ON HIS TOES......&....FRANCO MO' RELAXED AB'S.....POINT IS...LAST SEASON'S PITCHERS....AREN'T DOIN' IT...SO FAR DIS SEASON.......COME AROUND...OR GO SHOPPIN'....FO' SOME WHO CAN...........BRAWK!

I think part of the problem is that it appeared to me and others that the 'work load' given the pitchers in training camp was reduced this year with more time spent on the up and comers, with the idea of 'easing' into the season. I feel like the pitchers are still in 'spring training mode' in trying to figure things out. They have some very good arms, but the location and control is not there, yet, and hopefully, that gels in the next 1-2 weeks.

[bonarae]

Now, the Phillies want Bumgarner to move out of the West Coast...

https://www.mlb.com/news/bumgarner-trade-rumors-phillies-interested

[PaladinFan]

Now, the Phillies want Bumgarner to move out of the West Coast...

https://www.mlb.com/news/bumgarner-trade-rumors-phillies-interested

I mean, again, what's the cost?

After trading Sanchez, the Phillies have, I think, only two top 100 prospects and none in the top 50. Can they land Bumgardner with limited prospect capital?

The Phillies have signed Bryce Harper for 13 years. I don't see the wisdom in spending every dime and trading away the farm to win in year 1 of that long deal.

[TheValleyRaider]

Yankees currently have 11 players on the Injured List

Miguel Andujar (labrum tear) Possibly June
Dellin Betances (shoulder impingement) Possibly late May
Jacoby Ellsbury (many things) TBD
Didi Gregorius (Tommy John) Possibly June
Ben Heller (Tommy John) Possibly June
Aaron Hicks (lower back stiffness) Possibly May
Jordan Montgomery (Tommy John) Possibly August
Gary Sanchez (left calf strain) TBD
Luis Severino (right rotator cuff inflammation) July?
Giancarlo Stanton (left biceps strain) Possibly late April
Troy Tulowitzki (left calf strain) Possibly May

CC Sabathia began the season on IL, recovering from knee surgery and angioplasty. He starts today's game against Chicago

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

A futile streak is finally over...

https://www.mlb.com/news/chris-davis-hitless-streak-ends

[ngineer]

I mean, again, what's the cost?

After trading Sanchez, the Phillies have, I think, only two top 100 prospects and none in the top 50. Can they land Bumgardner with limited prospect capital?

The Phillies have signed Bryce Harper for 13 years. I don't see the wisdom in spending every dime and trading away the farm to win in year 1 of that long deal.

Phils have some decent arms awaiting in AAA Lehigh Valley, and their #1 draft pick of two years ago is starting to make some noise at AA Reading. While not necessarily a "year one" goal of WS, they certainly want to be in 'the hunt' for the next 5 years and that is what they are focusing on.

[PaladinFan]

Braves jump out early on the Mets, Sean Newcomb couldn't hold the lead and was yanked early for Touki Toussaint. Toussaint went 6 innings of 4 hit 1 run ball in relief.

One has to think that Newcomb may be destined for AAA. He's got stellar stuff, but can't seem to put it all together. It was all the more apparent after another top prospect came in relief and shut down the same lineup he was struggling against.

I think Atlanta fans have always been a bit more critical of Newcomb through no fault of his own. He was the centerpiece that came to the Braves in a deal for Andrelton Simmons - a trade virtually every Braves fan wishes had never happened. He was billed as a young Jon Lester, but has been far from that.