Gage Gubrud may not be done with college ball?

[BisonBacker]

Found this today and was surprised.
https://www-spokesman-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/jan/10/sources-eastern-washington-quarterback-gage-gubrud/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp-content=amp#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spokesman.com%2Fstories% 2F2019%2Fjan%2F10%2Fsources-eastern-washington-quarterback-gage-gubrud%2F

[Schism55]

Saw this as well. Don't see the NCAA granting him a hardship, but if they do I'm sure he will be in high demand.

[Derby City Duke]

We'll see if the NCAA accepts this rather liberal interpretation of 1/3 of a school's games rule. Would think that is predicated on the # of regular season contests, not projecting a school's qualification for post-season play.

[Redbird 4th & short]

We'll see if the NCAA accepts this rather liberal interpretation of 1/3 of a school's games rule. Would think that is predicated on the # of regular season contests, not projecting a school's qualification for post-season play.
I don't even like the whole 4 game RS rule to begin with ... though I dislike it less for FCS given the 20 less schollies than FBS issue. But it would be hard to believe NCAA would compromise further on this front ... idea that the 4 game rule would become a % of total games played including playoffs ... bit of a stretch as far as setting precedence goes. What are the rounding rules .... 5/4 method ??????

[lionsrking2]

We'll see if the NCAA accepts this rather liberal interpretation of 1/3 of a school's games rule. Would think that is predicated on the # of regular season contests, not projecting a school's qualification for post-season play.

As I recall, the rule is 30% of total number of team's games played (including postseason) and no game beyond the midpoint of the season.

[Professor Chaos]

Another factor in getting granted a 6th year medical hardship is that you need to have lost two seasons due to "circumstances beyond your control". That does not include a typical redshirt. He obviously played a lot in '16 and '17 and it looks like in '15 he held for kicks so he appeared in every game that year. So he'd also have to contend that he was redshirted in 2014 due to "circumstances beyond his control" and not just because the coaches wanted to develop him.

[lionsrking2]

Another factor in getting granted a 6th year medical hardship is that you need to have lost two seasons due to "circumstances beyond your control". That does not include a typical redshirt. He obviously played a lot in '16 and '17 and it looks like in '15 he held for kicks so he appeared in every game that year. So he'd also have to contend that he was redshirted in 2014 due to "circumstances beyond his control" and not just because the coaches wanted to develop him.

Correct.

[caribbeanhen]

Found this today and was surprised.
https://www-spokesman-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/jan/10/sources-eastern-washington-quarterback-gage-gubrud/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp-content=amp#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spokesman.com%2Fstories% 2F2019%2Fjan%2F10%2Fsources-eastern-washington-quarterback-gage-gubrud%2F

sounds like the Bison are needing a QB.....

[Iridebikes]

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/jan/11/sources-eastern-washington-qb-gage-g

Article in the Spokesman Review this morning says Gage is looking to transfer to Washington State. From what I understand the WAZOO offense is not something that can be picked up in a year, that is what was so unique about Minshew this year. They found a transfer that had run the offense since high school.

[Iridebikes]

Original link that I posted did not work. Try this one:

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/jan/11/sources-eastern-washington-qb-gage-gubrud-looking-/

[maine612]

It seems like, in these situations, the NCAA always grants the year. I am sure there are times where they say no, but the high profile guys always seem to get another shot. And I guess I don't have a problem with it.

612

[Bisonator]

Now we know why he sat out the chipper.xcoolx

[Twentysix]

We'll see if the NCAA accepts this rather liberal interpretation of 1/3 of a school's games rule. Would think that is predicated on the # of regular season contests, not projecting a school's qualification for post-season play.I'm not sure about if football has a separate rule, but the all sport hardship rule counts an entire playoff tournament as a single game.

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[Schism55]

https://twitter.com/FCS_Football/status/1092763551167598597

[Gil Dobie]

Hope he wins the appeal.

[Bisonator]

He won't.

[Grizalltheway]

He won't.
This post aged well.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/feb/09/former-eastern-washington-qb-gage-gubrud-gets-ncaa/?amp-content=amp

[Schism55]

This post aged well.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/feb/09/former-eastern-washington-qb-gage-gubrud-gets-ncaa/?amp-content=amp
Haha touche'
Happy for Gage, if he stays healthy she should have a monster year in Pullman

[Bisonator]

This post aged well.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/feb/09/former-eastern-washington-qb-gage-gubrud-gets-ncaa/?amp-content=amp

The good old NCAA following their own rules I see....


The NCAA moved swiftly to overturn the initial decision, granting Gubrud his sixth year of eligibility less than a week later, although it’s unknown what criteria was used to reverse it.

[NDB]

This crap needs to end. College is about education. Give everybody a four-year clock that starts the day they matriculate.

[Iridebikes]

This crap needs to end. College is about education. Give everybody a four-year clock that starts the day they matriculate.

Agreed!! Gage, VA, Minshew are not going to school to continue their education. THey want to play football and this is their chance. IMO its time for these guys to get on with it. Either go to graduate school and earn your degree or go to work. You've been given an opportunity that very few have, to earn a free college education while you play football. I go for the five year plan instead of four but really don't like these special pleas and rulings.

[Redbird 4th & short]

This crap needs to end. College is about education. Give everybody a four-year clock that starts the day they matriculate.
agreed, other than redshirt-ing as true FR.

In theory, under these new rules .. a guy like Gage Gabrud could have done following:

- Greyshirted the fall of his FR, and joined program in spring.

- Redshirted the next fall, though played in as many as 4 games

- Then play for 3 full years

- Then get injured in his 5th year after playing 4 games and come back for full 6th season.

So in theory, he could participate for 6.5 years, and play 4 full seasons plus 4 more games in 2 other seasons. Seems more than a bit out of hand ... where does this end ??

You would think allowing a redshirt season would be enough of a compromise ... I mean I get the idea of jumping right into college football the summer you graduate and then right into game season in the fall is a lot .. especially in a sport like football which demands a lot of players both physically and in terms of time commitment ... so I support the notion of redshirting in football

But apparently, this isn't alone enough of a compromise ... so I'm not a fan of the Gage Gabrud medical RS ruling, especially not in addition to new rule allowing 4 games as RS FR.

Draw a frickin line ... 4 years is 4 years .. Redshirt is more than enough compromise.

[WeAreThePride]

This crap needs to end. College is about education. Give everybody a four-year clock that starts the day they matriculate.
Nah.

[WeAreThePride]

agreed, other than redshirt-ing as true FR.

In theory, under these new rules .. a guy like Gage Gabrud could have done following:

- Greyshirted the fall of his FR, and joined program in spring.

- Redshirted the next fall, though played in as many as 4 games

- Then play for 3 full years

- Then get injured in his 5th year after playing 4 games and come back for full 6th season.

So in theory, he could participate for 6.5 years, and play 4 full seasons plus 4 more games in 2 other seasons. Seems more than a bit out of hand ... where does this end ??

You would think allowing a redshirt season would be enough of a compromise ... I mean I get the idea of jumping right into college football the summer you graduate and then right into game season in the fall is a lot .. especially in a sport like football which demands a lot of players both physically and in terms of time commitment ... so I support the notion of redshirting in football

But apparently, this isn't alone enough of a compromise ... so I'm not a fan of the Gage Gabrud medical RS ruling, especially not in addition to new rule allowing 4 games as RS FR.

Draw a frickin line ... 4 years is 4 years .. Redshirt is more than enough compromise.
It's his decision how he wants to spend his late teens and early twenties. Why is it any of your business?

[wapiti]

This crap needs to end. College is about education. Give everybody a four-year clock that starts the day they matriculate.

Playing football can be part of an education. Especially if your career path is going down the path of football or some other sport. Whether it is playing professionally or coaching.
Playing sports in college can prepare you for any career. Many student squeeze a four year education into a five year plan, so I have no problem with allowing a 5th year.

[clenz]

Playing football can be part of an education. Especially if your career path is going down the path of football or some other sport. Whether it is playing professionally or coaching.
Playing sports in college can prepare you for any career. Many student squeeze a four year education into a five year plan, so I have no problem with allowing a 5th year.Average student takes 4.5 to 5 years to graduate at this point

No issues with getting a 5th year as a redshirt year.

Year 6 becomes a bit grey with the medical waivers. But if a student is pursuing a MA/MS then it's well used as they are setting themselves up for life after school and football

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