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mmiller_34

January 5th, 2019, 12:45 PM

Bison already up 10-0 in the 1st. Its over. Time to look toward next year. Here is what I know will happen:

1. Youngstown State will play at least 2 NEC teams in the OOC.
2. UNI will crap themselves in the OOC.
3. USD, Missouri State, and WIU will look promising then won't be.
4. SDSU will lose a game to either Youngstown State, Northern Iowa, Illinois State, or USD and screw themselves from good playoff seeding.
5. Bison will win the Dakota Marker by a score of 31-14. The score will be tied with 2 minutes left in the 1st half. Bison will score going into halftime and immediately in the 2nd half to put the game away.
6. Southern Illinois will add some transfers.
7. Illinois State will make the playoffs.
8. SDSU will lose in the Quarterfinal against NDSU.
9. Bison will win the Natty.

Same old, Same old.

2019 MVFC SCHEDULES
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?220956-MVFC-Megathread-2019-Edition&p=2739311&viewfull=1#post2739311

Bisonator

January 5th, 2019, 01:46 PM

You forgot the Joose sponsorship for this thread.:D

mmiller_34

January 5th, 2019, 03:03 PM

You forgot the Joose sponsorship for this thread.:D

Ah shucks

TheKingpin28

January 5th, 2019, 03:04 PM

The 2018 season isn't even over.

mmiller_34

January 5th, 2019, 03:07 PM

The 2018 season isn't even over.

What are you talking about it was over 3 quarters ago

TheKingpin28

January 5th, 2019, 03:19 PM

What are you talking about it was over 3 quarters ago

I try not to drink the Joose. xlolx

Schism55

January 5th, 2019, 03:38 PM

Wasting NO time lol...Well done sir xthumbsupx

Derby City Duke

January 5th, 2019, 04:28 PM

Bison already up 10-0 in the 1st. Its over. Time to look toward next year. Here is what I know will happen:

1. Youngstown State will play at least 2 NEC teams in the OOC.
2. UNI will crap themselves in the OOC.
3. USD, Missouri State, and WIU will look promising then won't be.
4. SDSU will lose a game to either Youngstown State, Northern Iowa, Illinois State, or USD and screw themselves from good playoff seeding.
5. Bison will win the Dakota Marker by a score of 31-14. The score will be tied with 2 minutes left in the 1st half. Bison will score going into halftime and immediately in the 2nd half to put the game away.
6. Southern Illinois will add some transfers.
7. Illinois State will make the playoffs.
8. SDSU will lose in the Quarterfinal against NDSU.
9. Bison will win the Natty.

Same old, Same old.

10. And a CAA guy will win the Pick 'em Against the Spread again...

mmiller_34

January 6th, 2019, 09:03 AM

2019 MVFC Schedules:

Illinois State
Aug 27th @ Northern Illinois
Sept 7th vs Moorhead State
Sept 14th @ Eastern Illinois
Sept 21st vs Northern Arizona
Sept 28th BYE
Oct 5th vs North Dakota State
Oct 12th @ Southern Illinois
Oct 19th @ Western Illinois
Oct 26th vs Indiana State
Nov 2 vs Northern Iowa
Nov 9 @ South Dakota State
Nov 16 vs Missouri State
Nov 23 @ Youngstown State

Indiana State
Aug 27th @ Kansas
Sept 7th vs Dayton
Sept 14th vs Eastern Kentucky
Sept 21st vs Eastern Illinois
Sept 28th
Oct 5th @ South Dakota
Oct 12th
Oct 19th vs South Dakota State
Oct 26th @ Illinois State
Nov 2nd
Nov 9th
Nov 16th
Nov 23rd

Missouri State
Aug 27th @ Northern Arizona
Sept 7th
Sept 14th @ Tulane
Sept 21st vs Kennesaw State
Sept 28th
Oct 5th
Oct 12th vs South Dakota
Oct 19th @ North Dakota State
Oct 26th
Nov 2nd vs South Dakota State
Nov 9th
Nov 16 @ Illinois State
Nov 23rd

Northern Iowa
North Dakota State
Southern Illinois
South Dakota
South Dakota State
Western Illinois
Youngstown State

**Working on it

clenz

January 6th, 2019, 09:56 AM

I think UNI starts a true freshman QB from game 1.

So...

That should work well in the Valley

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mmiller_34

January 6th, 2019, 10:15 AM

I think UNI starts a true freshman QB from game 1.

So...

That should work well in the Valley

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Who is that? Easton Stick and Taryn Christion both started games as true freshman. Could be a good thing.

clenz

January 6th, 2019, 10:21 AM

Who is that? Easton Stick and Taryn Christion both started games as true freshman. Could be a good thing.Nate Martens out of Desmet High in St Louis. 6'4 225b lefty. His film reminds me of watching Easton Stick. Pocket guy that when he does run is a mother ****er. His film has a few truck sticks and a couple pancake blocks 10 yards down field

In general I don't like star ratings but he was a high 3 star and had standing offers from a handful of MAC schools plus Temple and Syracuse. PWO offers from Iowa Iowa State, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Michigan State

He is on campus now as he enrolled early to do spring ball.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5412828/5be782f2d45ee40ae8217880

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mmiller_34

January 6th, 2019, 10:29 AM

Nate Martens out of Desmet High in St Louis. 6'4 225b lefty. His film reminds me of watching Easton Stick. Pocket guy that when he does run is a mother ****er. His film has a few truck sticks and a couple pancake blocks 10 yards down field

In general I don't like star ratings but he was a high 3 star and had standing offers from a handful of MAC schools plus Temple and Syracuse. PWO offers from Iowa Iowa State, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Michigan State

He is on campus now as he enrolled early to do spring ball.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5412828/5be782f2d45ee40ae8217880

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Ohhhhh... Southpaw.

He looks pretty good.

clenz

January 6th, 2019, 10:48 AM

Ohhhhh... Southpaw.

He looks pretty good.Ideally he's redshirt using the 4 game rule and then play 4

However, we don't have a QB on roster that has taken a real college snap and the oldest will be a sophomore. A kid like Martens doesn't come in early to sit for 3 years.

The only way I see him redshirting is injury or the back up for the last 3 years, who hasnt redshirted and okayed in just 4 games as a senior last year, comes back to fight for a starting spot for a year. I can't see that happening though. He isn't an overly good QB from what we've seen in his 3 years. Enough to manage a game if needed after an injury. Maybe a week. But that's about it. I also don't see him coming back to fight for a job that he probably isn't favored in by the coaches only to play back up again.

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Thumper 76

January 6th, 2019, 11:25 AM

10. And a CAA guy will win the Pick 'em Against the Spread again...

Don’t make me come out of my MVFC pick em retirement xcoffeex

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X-Factor

January 7th, 2019, 08:03 AM

Who is that? Easton Stick and Taryn Christion both started games as true freshman. Could be a good thing.

Stick redshirted

ysubigred

January 7th, 2019, 09:01 AM

Who is that? Easton Stick and Taryn Christion both started games as true freshman. Could be a good thing.

Might see one for YSU alsoxeyebrowx

Professor Chaos

January 7th, 2019, 09:06 AM

There will be a ton of new QBs in the MVFC next year. Stick, Christion, McGuire, and Dunne all gone. It's going to be tough to predict (other than NDSU at the top :D.... but if there was ever a year for an NDSU dropoff...).

ST_Lawson

January 7th, 2019, 09:33 AM

2019 MVFC Schedules:...

Here you go: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQhPX-V5qFn67f87s5R4MXsVzzbE6889Sp7A5xzCDvgO5XoLuYUOmUk_ zImZ3z0JPAbtCeRvvIm1iug/pubhtml?gid=385500660&single=true
I've got all but one OOC game each for MSU, SDSU, and YSU. Everyone else's schedules should be correct. The light grey ones are extrapolated from everyone else's schedules, but I'm about 95% sure they're correct too.

Thumper 76

January 7th, 2019, 10:14 AM

Here you go: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQhPX-V5qFn67f87s5R4MXsVzzbE6889Sp7A5xzCDvgO5XoLuYUOmUk_ zImZ3z0JPAbtCeRvvIm1iug/pubhtml?gid=385500660&single=true
I've got all but one OOC game each for MSU, SDSU, and YSU. Everyone else's schedules should be correct. The light grey ones are extrapolated from everyone else's schedules, but I'm about 95% sure they're correct too.

Im 90% sure SDSU will have 12 games next year as well so I think you’re short two on them. They better both be home games or there will be hell to pay......

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ST_Lawson

January 7th, 2019, 10:30 AM

Im 90% sure SDSU will have 12 games next year as well so I think you’re short two on them. They better both be home games or there will be hell to pay......

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Yes, sorry....two games missing from SDSU's schedule currently.

Winterborn

January 7th, 2019, 10:53 AM

Not sure I agree with all of them, but interesting reading.

North Dakota State is the greatest FCS program ever and the most strictly dominant program all of Division I football’s ever had. That was true even before the Bison beat Eastern Washington on Saturday (https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/1/5/18166682/ndsu-ewu-2019-final-score-results) to make it seven FCS championships in eight years.
The Bison are great for what they are, and imagining them in FBS is little more than a fun hypothetical. When they’ve beaten FBS teams (whom they’re 6-0 against since 2010 (https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/8/30/6086977/north-dakota-state-fcs-fbs-STOP-PLAYING-THEM)), plenty of fans and media outlets (present company included (https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/9/20/12982692/ndsu-bison-big-ten-conference)) have tried to figure out how they might do in DI’s upper division.
Right now, NDSU is No. 19 in the all-DI Sagarin ratings (https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/), which cover 255 teams across FBS and FCS. That doesn’t include what will likely be a minor post-championship adjustment.
So, I wondered: How would each of the 130 FBS teams from 2018 do against the best team in the championship subdivision? This list tracks sort of closely with the current 130-team S&P+ ranking (https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/1/2/18165203/ncaa-football-rankings-2018-college-football-playoff), but I’ve made some subjective adjustments here and there.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/1/7/18170160/north-dakota-state-fbs

Sycamore62

January 7th, 2019, 11:16 AM

Thumper 76

January 7th, 2019, 11:41 AM

clenz

January 7th, 2019, 12:09 PM

Bisonator

January 7th, 2019, 01:39 PM

ISUb will also participate in the conference....
WILD CARD BITCHES!!!!
Who's going to be your new LB coach?xcoffeex

Bisonator

January 7th, 2019, 01:45 PM

I got a feeling UNI wins the conference next year. I reserve the right to change that prediction whenever I want. Specifically mid season. Or last game of the season.

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They'll start out 2-2 in OOC, go 1-2 in conference before ripping off 3 straight and then stumble to a 7-5 finish and third place in the league. Then they'll win against a pud before Farleying out. #bookit

POD Knows

January 7th, 2019, 02:02 PM

They'll start out 2-2 in OOC, go 1-2 in conference before ripping off 3 straight and then stumble to a 7-5 finish and third place in the league. Then they'll win against a pud before Farleying out. bookitFixed your post.

Sycamore62

January 7th, 2019, 02:39 PM

Who's going to be your new LB coach?xcoffeex

somebody lucky

Bisonator

January 7th, 2019, 02:54 PM

somebody lucky
:D

mmiller_34

January 9th, 2019, 09:53 PM

Still working on those schedules. Calm down folks!

mmiller_34

January 13th, 2019, 11:32 AM

Looks like SDSU has added a transfer QB:

https://twitter.com/jackillustrated/status/1083733893113659393?s=21

*ahh shoot looks like someone already beat me to this in another thread.

Thumper 76

January 13th, 2019, 11:58 PM

So the yotes mega renno is going to bump their capacity by roughly 2k.......up to 9.5k. Which means they’ve been lying about their capacity for, well, a long time. But I’m just a hater xcoffeex

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dewey

January 14th, 2019, 07:37 AM

Thumper 76

January 14th, 2019, 09:20 AM

Stop being a hater Thumperxlolx

Dewey

Honestly though, pretty sure that’s the smallest facility in the MVFC by quite a bit isn’t it? And yote fans get mad at me like I make **** up about their program........

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clenz

January 14th, 2019, 09:30 AM

They were the smallest by almost 3000 when they claimed 10k. The reality is they were the smallest by 5200

At 9500 they are still the smallest by far. UND will be the next smallest at 12,300

Which is still about 30% smaller than UND.

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clenz

January 14th, 2019, 09:40 AM

And that's with Indiana State having half a stadium.

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clenz

January 14th, 2019, 09:48 AM

I'm sure the NCAA compliance office would like to chat with USD as well about gate receipts and financial reporting.

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Thumper 76

January 14th, 2019, 10:00 AM

I'm sure the NCAA compliance office would like to chat with USD as well about gate receipts and financial reporting.

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That’s would be beyond interesting

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IBleedYellow

January 14th, 2019, 10:21 AM

@ Thumper isn't the bet over now?

Thumper 76

January 14th, 2019, 10:28 AM

@ Thumper isn't the bet over now?
I’m not sure. I think so?

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TheKingpin28

January 14th, 2019, 12:06 PM

@ Thumper isn't the bet over now?

Did you really have to tell him? xlolx

JSUSoutherner

January 14th, 2019, 12:27 PM

I’m not sure. I think so?

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Great, now you look like mmiller.

clenz

January 14th, 2019, 12:36 PM

So...I started looking at USD attendance figures, reported ticket sales, etc...

I really think the NCAA financial compliance office would love to heard about this and take a look at the books.

I've looked at just 2018 and here's what I found.

They stated 10k capacity and reported attendances of

9/8/18
UNC
9143

10/6/18
MOSU
10092

10/13/18
UNI
9513

10/27/18
NDSU
9589

11/10/18
WIU
8761

Meaning they reported averaging 94% capacity for the season - or 9,400 people.

That's pretty crazy considering they now announce capacity is 2000 seats less than that.

Let's pretend they, proportionally, sold, that same amount of tickets on the season and averaged 94% of 7,500. They averaged 7,050 people.

But we all know how numbers are reported to begin with...

Eyeball tests for most games had people guessing about 60% capacity. Meaning USD truly averaged about 3,500 to 4,000 for games.

I...this level of lying and deceit is another level. It's been going on for decades.

What else is USD lying about if it's too much effort to be truthful about their domes capacity

Grizalltheway

January 14th, 2019, 01:45 PM

clenz

January 14th, 2019, 01:49 PM

I don't know about any of this, but I do know that you need a hobby. xlolxYeah. That's 5 minutes that took me took away many other things that could be hobbies.

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Thumper 76

January 14th, 2019, 02:24 PM

I don't know about any of this, but I do know that you need a hobby. xlolx

He’s kinda a world wonder with that sort of **** xlolx

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JayJ79

January 15th, 2019, 02:07 AM

I'm sure the NCAA compliance office would like to chat with USD as well about gate receipts and financial reporting.

why? does the NCAA get a cut of regular season ticket sales?

uni88

January 15th, 2019, 08:17 AM

Yeah. That's 5 minutes that took me took away many other things that could be hobbies.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using TapatalkAren't these kinds of things a hobby for you?

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clenz

January 15th, 2019, 09:04 AM

Aren't these kinds of things a hobby for you?

Sent from my XT1650 using TapatalkApparently researching sports stats can't be a hobby

Just like playing video games can't be a way to make a living.

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uni88

January 15th, 2019, 09:06 AM

Apparently researching sports stats can't be a hobby

Just like playing video games can't be a way to make a living.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk:D Ninja used to live in my neighborhood. If I see him I'll let him know he needs to get a job.

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Sycamore62

January 15th, 2019, 04:40 PM

Yeah. That's 5 minutes that took me took away many other things that could be hobbies.

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But you're up to about 7,000 hours.

clenz

January 15th, 2019, 05:27 PM

But you're up to about 7,000 hours.If you break that out over the time I've been on PN, AGS, CS, etc. That really isnt that much time spent per day for someone to spend on their main hobby.

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clenz

January 15th, 2019, 06:55 PM

UNI's OC resigned after the season due to family issues - his father had major health issues that caused him to miss the final regular season game and then passed causing the final two playoff games to be missed. I think he's moving back to his home area (Arkansas) to be closer to family. Haven't heard if he will continue to coach.

He was the OC and QB coach.

His replacement was introduced today and is well known at UNI and the MVFC: Ryan Mahaffey

Ryan was a stand out for UNI between 2007-2010. He was a 3 time All Conference selection at TE for UNI (which is incredible because his CAREER numbers were 25 catches for 227 yards 6 TDs and 1 rush for -5 yards. He was used as a TE/FB and was an extension of the OL. He would have been a dominant OL at the 255lb playing weight he was at. He was also a 2 time All Scholar Team.

After graduating he spent a few years in the NFL with the Colts, Ravens and Dolphins as FB.

Became a GA in 2013 at Notre Dame where he was the WR coach for 3 years. Worked with guys like Will Fuller, who was an AA during that time period

He "came home" in 2016 for his first full time coaching gig as the TE and co-OC in 2016...co-OC went about as band as it sounds 2016 was a disaster all around - nothing to do with Ryan.

After that season he was named co-OC and TE coach at WKU where he spent the last two years. In 2017 he took Deon Yelder from not having a single catch in his career to All Conference and the largest UDFA contract in 2018. He coached another AC TE this past season.

He returns as the full time, primary, OC at UNI. I think (hope) this signals an end to whatever spread half run half air raid half power half zone offense Farley has wanted to run. In his statement today Ryan said

"The hallmark of UNI football is always going physical play and fundamentals," Mahaffey said. "We are devoted to creating that mindset. We will play to our personnel, and I think our guys are going to have a lot of fun playing in this system. We will use multiple formations, and we plan to play aggressive offensively. We will look to establish a physical, downhill run game, but we want to challenge the defense vertically down the field in the passing game and look to create opportunities for our athletes in space when throwing the ball."

I think that means he wants to get back to what made UNI great - the offense of the 05-09 UNI teams that were in the NC game and won the conference 4 times in 5 years. I think it means more scheming like NDSU does - and when UNI and NDSU both played that style between 08-11 those games were ****ing insane bloodbath battles.

UNI has also had almost zero staff turn over for the second year in a row, which is incredible. UNI, to date, has lost just 2 coaches this year - the OC/QB coach resigned to be with family and assistant LB coach and ST coach David Braun went to NDSU.

Meaning UNI has 1 spot left to fill - the QB coach. It'll be interesting to see where the goes in terms of direction and style of play coached.

https://unipanthers.com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_prefix=passthru_imagecred it&image_path=/images/2019/1/15/Mahaffey_website.jpg

uni88

January 16th, 2019, 12:11 AM

UNI's OC resigned after the season due to family issues - his father had major health issues that caused him to miss the final regular season game and then passed causing the final two playoff games to be missed. I think he's moving back to his home area (Arkansas) to be closer to family. Haven't heard if he will continue to coach.

He was the OC and QB coach.

His replacement was introduced today and is well known at UNI and the MVFC: Ryan Mahaffey

Ryan was a stand out for UNI between 2007-2010. He was a 3 time All Conference selection at TE for UNI (which is incredible because his CAREER numbers were 25 catches for 227 yards 6 TDs and 1 rush for -5 yards. He was used as a TE/FB and was an extension of the OL. He would have been a dominant OL at the 255lb playing weight he was at. He was also a 2 time All Scholar Team.

After graduating he spent a few years in the NFL with the Colts, Ravens and Dolphins as FB.

Became a GA in 2013 at Notre Dame where he was the WR coach for 3 years. Worked with guys like Will Fuller, who was an AA during that time period

He "came home" in 2016 for his first full time coaching gig as the TE and co-OC in 2016...co-OC went about as band as it sounds 2016 was a disaster all around - nothing to do with Ryan.

After that season he was named co-OC and TE coach at WKU where he spent the last two years. In 2017 he took Deon Yelder from not having a single catch in his career to All Conference and the largest UDFA contract in 2018. He coached another AC TE this past season.

He returns as the full time, primary, OC at UNI. I think (hope) this signals an end to whatever spread half run half air raid half power half zone offense Farley has wanted to run. In his statement today Ryan said

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Roboto]"The hallmark of UNI football is always going physical play and fundamentals," Mahaffey said. "We are devoted to creating that mindset. We will play to our personnel, and I think our guys are going to have a lot of fun playing in this system. We will use multiple formations, and we plan to play aggressive offensively. We will look to establish a physical, downhill run game, but we want to challenge the defense vertically down the field in the passing game and look to create opportunities for our athletes in space when throwing the ball."

I think that means he wants to get back to what made UNI great - the offense of the 05-09 UNI teams that were in the NC game and won the conference 4 times in 5 years. I think it means more scheming like NDSU does - and when UNI and NDSU both played that style between 08-11 those games were ****ing insane bloodbath battles.

UNI has also had almost zero staff turn over for the second year in a row, which is incredible. UNI, to date, has lost just 2 coaches this year - the OC/QB coach resigned to be with family and assistant LB coach and ST coach David Braun went to NDSU.

Meaning UNI has 1 spot left to fill - the QB coach. It'll be interesting to see where the goes in terms of direction and style of play coached.

I'm excited about this hire! Let's get physical and go toe to toe with the pubic hair covered cattle! Classic UNI football!

Is Braun a big loss?

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Derby City Duke

January 16th, 2019, 08:29 AM

Sorry to hear the circumstances around the loss of your previous OC. I hope he's able to successfully deal with the issues of family and get back in the business.

clenz

January 16th, 2019, 09:00 AM

Not sure.

He was only in Cedar Falls for 2 seasons. In that time he lost his job as the DL coach, was made an assistant position coach to DJ Vokolek and special teams coach. I'd say our DL play was much better this past season than under Braun.

I can't judge his LB coaching ability because... Well... No matter what titles say LBs are Farley's specialty and he was an assistant LB coach even in title under DJ.

It's a loss in that he was the first STC we've have in years. There was a noticable difference in the ST play.

His move from a demoted position coach that was a position coach before that for 3 years and then had a couple years at a D2 is... Something. It's a move in title and pay he couldn't pass up.

It's also a move that I think only happens because Entz and Braun have a relationship from Winona. I can't imagine Braun gets a DC role anywhere else without that relationship with Entz from 15 years ago.

I've got nothing even remotely bad to say about the guy. His thank you to Cedar Falls on social media was something that we don't normally see. It showed class - and that being a coach under Farley isn't the extreme hell everyone outside of CF makes it to be (not that it's easy, it's just not what others say it is)

As for Mahaffey I'm whelmed with the hire. It makes sense, and I've no issue with it. It was also the safest pick Farley could have made for that role. Cautiously optimistic about it is where I am.

Having said that, if this was the NDSU fan base and this hire got made (an alum that was a well known, well liked, super good player, that had NDL experience and had also married a UNI athlete) we'd be going number 3 all day every day over it. Check out their reaction to Grant Olson.

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F'N Hawks

January 16th, 2019, 10:08 AM

This next year will be cool and everything but man is it gonna be really fun in 2020. xthumbsupx

IBleedYellow

January 16th, 2019, 10:43 AM

This next year will be cool and everything but man is it gonna be really fun in 2020. xthumbsupx

Hoping to see UND go 0-8 in the conference until the end of time.

clenz

January 16th, 2019, 10:52 AM

Hoping to see UND go 0-8 in the conference until the end of time.Will be interesting to see what happens

SDSU NDSU UNI ISUr all are fighting and beating MAC, AAC, CUSA, B10 and B12 teams for recruits.

UNDs recruits seem to have offers from almost exclusively regional D2 teams this last year.

Wonder the difference in development between now and 2020 in the rosters.

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IBleedYellow

January 16th, 2019, 11:07 AM

Will be interesting to see what happens

SDSU NDSU UNI ISUr all are fighting and beating MAC, AAC, CUSA, B10 and B12 teams for recruits.

UNDs recruits seem to have offers from almost exclusively regional D2 teams this last year.

Wonder the difference in development between now and 2020 in the rosters.

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It's a bold strategy, let's see if it works out for them.

Derby City Duke

January 16th, 2019, 11:52 AM

It's a bold strategy, let's see if it works out for them.

D2 offers + weight room work = what could possibly go wrong?

F'N Hawks

January 16th, 2019, 12:51 PM

Will be interesting to see what happens

SDSU NDSU UNI ISUr all are fighting and beating MAC, AAC, CUSA, B10 and B12 teams for recruits.

UNDs recruits seem to have offers from almost exclusively regional D2 teams this last year.

Wonder the difference in development between now and 2020 in the rosters.

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It's gonna be fascinating. Plus, the box score breakdowns of why UND really didn't win the game, even though the scoreboard said they did - sign me up!

Bison56

January 16th, 2019, 02:38 PM

Hoping to see UND go 0-8 in the conference until the end of time.

2nd this.xnodx

Thumper 76

January 17th, 2019, 12:24 PM

This next year will be cool and everything but man is it gonna be really fun in 2020. xthumbsupx

The MVFC thread will be an absolute dumpster fire when that happens.

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Drblankstare

January 19th, 2019, 11:38 AM

Walking out of Casey’s this morning with my half sausage half bacon breakfast pizza and Coach Entz was walking in.

2019 Undeafeated season confirmed for NDSU.

cx500d

January 19th, 2019, 12:11 PM

Walking out of Casey’s this morning with my half sausage half bacon breakfast pizza and Coach Entz was walking in.

2019 Undeafeated season confirmed for NDSU.
I guess I'll by natty tickets then, if its confirmed.

Redbird 4th & short

January 21st, 2019, 09:41 AM

Walking out of Casey’s this morning with my half sausage half bacon breakfast pizza and Coach Entz was walking in.

2019 Undeafeated season confirmed for NDSU.

wtf, way to leave us all hanging without the most pertinent info ..... so what kind of Caseys pizza did he order ??? Cuz if he ordered something veggie or god-forbid fruited it, I'm pretty sure the Bison Natty run is officially over.

CappinHard

January 22nd, 2019, 01:45 PM

Sounds like SDSU's OC Eidsness is leaving to take the OC job at NIU. I don't blame him with Stig signing a 5 year extension, I'm sure he's looking for a head coaching position sooner than later. The assumption right now is that they'll promote from within, but we'll see. Personally, I'm not that mad about him being gone, but I'm concerned about who they'll replace him with. Kind of a "careful what you wish for" position.

Professor Chaos

January 22nd, 2019, 02:55 PM

CappinHard

January 22nd, 2019, 03:24 PM

We want Eck! We want Eck! We want Eck!

xeyebrowx Is there something behind this that I'm not aware of?

Professor Chaos

January 22nd, 2019, 03:59 PM

xeyebrowx Is there something behind this that I'm not aware of?
He makes things interesting with his social media activity. :)

clenz

January 22nd, 2019, 04:41 PM

UNI finished filling it's coaching staff with the addition of former Montana QB Justin Roper as the QB coach

https://unipanthers.com/news/2019/1/22/panther-football-adds-justin-roper-as-quarterbacks-coach.aspx

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CappinHard

January 22nd, 2019, 05:06 PM

He makes things interesting with his social media activity. :)

Ha, makes sense. I would be happy with Eck as the replacement. He's already the run game coordinator and O line coach and has prior OC experience at Mankato State.

cx500d

January 22nd, 2019, 08:24 PM

clenz

January 22nd, 2019, 08:29 PM

Didn't get to play against him... Because Farley ball cost us that semi final win.

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POD Knows

January 22nd, 2019, 09:57 PM

andthehomeofthe-BIZON-

January 22nd, 2019, 10:04 PM

Jesus, what a terrible suit, I got better **** in my basement, did he get that at a thrift store, weak suit sauce.

Fargo, Also known as the American Milan.....

POD Knows

January 22nd, 2019, 10:10 PM

Fargo, Also known as the American Milan.....Do you think this guy is a 42L, I have an awesome pinstripe, double breasted gangster looking suit from back in the day.

andthehomeofthe-BIZON-

January 22nd, 2019, 10:11 PM

Do you think this guy is a 42L, I have an awesome pinstripe, double breasted gangster looking suit from back in the day.

Now you've peaked my interest. Pinstripe you say

POD Knows

January 22nd, 2019, 10:23 PM

Now you've peaked my interest. Pinstripe you sayI will take a pic and put it out here, we should have a thread for awesome vintage fashion. I gave away my Cabana wear to POD Knows III the other day, he thought it was the most bitchin stuff he had ever seen, he will probably wear it ice fishing.

POD Knows

January 22nd, 2019, 10:35 PM

I will take a pic and put it out here, we should have a thread for awesome vintage fashion. I gave away my Cabana wear to POD Knows III the other day, he thought it was the most bitchin stuff he had ever seen, he will probably wear it ice fishing.Here is some the cabana wear, timeless classics,

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29945&stc=1

dewey

January 23rd, 2019, 07:55 AM

Sycamore62

January 23rd, 2019, 01:56 PM

Jesus, what a terrible suit, I got better **** in my MOM'S basement where all my stuff is, did he get that at a thrift store, weak suit sauce.

The website is cutting out words. fixed it.

CappinHard

January 23rd, 2019, 02:56 PM

Looks like the Jackrabbits will be losing their offensive coordinator.

https://www.daily-chronicle.com/2019/01/22/niu-football-south-dakota-states-eric-eidsness-close-to-becoming-huskies-next-offensive-coordinator/a1ldsiz/

Dewey

Yep.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?220956-MVFC-Megathread-2019-Edition&p=2746216&viewfull=1#post2746216

mmiller_34

February 16th, 2019, 04:34 PM

BUMP

Redbird 4th & short

February 16th, 2019, 06:12 PM

BUMP
dude, you need to get off my wave length .. I just today notice this thread slipped to page 3 .. no posts for 24 days.

Could this be a sign that the MVFC era is over ??

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mmiller_34

February 16th, 2019, 07:11 PM

dude, you need to get off my wave length .. I just today notice this thread slipped to page 3 .. no posts for 24 days.

Could this be a sign that the MVFC era is over ??

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NOT WITHOUT A FIGHT!

ST_Lawson

February 17th, 2019, 01:09 PM

Could this be a sign that the MVFC era is over ??

Or maybe just a sign that we're all damn tired of this weather and ready for spring (and spring football) to get here.

Redbird 4th & short

February 18th, 2019, 01:27 PM

Or maybe just a sign that we're all damn tired of this weather and ready for spring (and spring football) to get here.
some of us have had longer and colder offseason than others ... so there are tradeoffs being stuck in Fargo !!! But our teams had both .... so yeah, I'm ready for spring ball !!!!

mmiller_34

February 18th, 2019, 09:13 PM

Or maybe just a sign that we're all damn tired of this weather and ready for spring (and spring football) to get here.

My "end of the driveway" mountain is no joke 7 ft tall. I wish I were exaggerating.

Solid foot and a half spread pretty evenly along the rest of my yard.

clenz

February 18th, 2019, 09:27 PM

My "end of the driveway" mountain is no joke 7 ft tall. I wish I were exaggerating.

Solid foot and a half spread pretty evenly along the rest of my yard.We've gotten about 4 feet of snow in the last month. IIRC we are averaging about 1.5 in per day over that time, of course we aren't getting it at that rate. It's 8 inches at a time every couple days.

Got 8 more inches over the weekend.

Supposed to get another 8 to 10 tomorrow night into Wednesday morning.

Mail boxes are now just mounds of snow that have a small tunnel dug out for the door to open.

****ing sick of it.

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Bisonoline

February 18th, 2019, 10:08 PM

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30115&stc=1
Bench at our hand gun range. This was taken 2 weeks ago before we got the last 2 snow falls. 15 miles north they have already got 45 inches of snow.

Bisonoline

February 18th, 2019, 10:14 PM

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30116&stc=1

ST_Lawson

February 19th, 2019, 09:46 AM

Sycamore62

February 19th, 2019, 11:36 AM

We're at that "perfect" location where it gets just warm enough for most of it to melt and then refreeze overnight fairly often. My driveway and walk up to my front door have pretty much been a sheet of ice for over a month.

Im at the perfect location where its cold enough I wish I would move but not long enough to make me do it.

Im like Wayne Myers in "better off dead" ready to kill myself

CappinHard

February 19th, 2019, 11:53 AM

Im at the perfect location where its cold enough I wish I would move but not long enough to make me do it.

Im like Wayne Myers in "better off dead" ready to kill myself

I'm at that perfect location where it's... nope... it's not perfect at all. These 4 months are my nightmare. Although it does make a guy really appreciate the other 8 months out of the year.

TheKingpin28

February 19th, 2019, 11:54 AM

I'm damn near contemplating skating to work. xlolx This is getting ridiculous.

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Sycamore62

February 19th, 2019, 12:28 PM

I'm at that perfect location where it's... nope... it's not perfect at all. These 4 months are my nightmare. Although it does make a guy really appreciate the other 8 months out of the year.

I guess I really should have said "awful" instead of "perfect"

uni88

February 20th, 2019, 07:52 AM

We're at that "perfect" location where it gets just warm enough for most of it to melt and then refreeze overnight fairly often. My driveway and walk up to my front door have pretty much been a sheet of ice for over a month.Concrete driveway? One of the best things about asphalt is that when exposed to what little sun we get they heat up and the remaining snow/ice melts and evaporates.

Sycamore62 - two dollars, I want my two dollars. :D

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IBleedYellow

February 20th, 2019, 11:07 AM

Having a snowmobile and snowblower has changed my outlook.

DUMP THE SNOW BABY. DUMP IT ALL OVER ND AND CENTRAL MN!

Evolution Prime

February 20th, 2019, 11:20 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/EvolutionPrime/Mobile%20Uploads/snow_zpsetxay2nh.jpg

ST_Lawson

February 20th, 2019, 11:38 AM

Having a snowmobile and snowblower has changed my outlook.

DUMP THE SNOW BABY. DUMP IT ALL OVER ND AND CENTRAL MN!

I don't have a snowblower myself, but we live on a secluded cul-de-sac. Of the 6 houses in our little "circle", 3 of them have snowblowers and 2 of them have friendly retired grandpa-types who love to break out the snowblower and just clear off everyone's driveways (and sometimes even the road). If we've gotten enough snow that we don't have to go into work, then usually by the time I'm up and eating breakfast, everyone's driveways and the cul-de-sac are all cleared.

Usually we'll all stay home and my wife will make brownies or muffins or something and me and the kids will run them over to their houses later in the morning as a "thank you".

IBleedYellow

February 20th, 2019, 11:39 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/EvolutionPrime/Mobile%20Uploads/snow_zpsetxay2nh.jpg

Snow. Blower.

Evolution Prime

February 20th, 2019, 11:44 AM

Snow. Blower.

Normally snow isn't too much of a problem in SE Nebraska. At least the last 5 or so years anyways. Never really could justify buying one. Probably will after this winter though.

ST_Lawson

February 20th, 2019, 12:08 PM

I apologize for bringing up football in the midst of weather discussions, but I was looking at everyone's schedules (the ones that have been posted so far) from 2020 and just wanted to discuss the "pattern" a bit.

Obviously UND will be joining the conference, so there's going to be 11 teams, which means that everyone will "miss" two schools a year, starting in 2020, so as to keep the 8-game conference schedule.
As it stands now, NDSU, SDSU, and USD have posted their 2020 schedules and (not surprisingly) it looks like all the Dakota schools will "miss" two of the more "southern" schools every year. So, SDSU, USD, NDSU, and UND all play each other, then each of them will play 5 of the 7 other schools. UND hasn't posted their 2020 schedule yet, but they're listed on the other 3 Dakota schools schedules, so there's that.

In 2020 (and presumably 2021):
NDSU - won't play WIU or SIU
SDSU - won't play ILSU or MSU
USD - won't play YSU or SIU

As near as I can tell, it looks like UNI is being lumped into the Dakota region, since they'll be playing at least NDSU, SDSU, and USD in 2020.
My guess is that UNI will also play UND and won't end up playing two of ILSU, INSU, MSU, WIU, or YSU. SIU is removed from the list because they already aren't playing both NDSU and USD.

Probably none of this is much of a surprise to many of you, but I figured I'd put it out there for anyone who may not have looked that closely at the schedules or whatever.

clenz

February 20th, 2019, 12:29 PM

Snow. Blower.I've got a 24 inch wide 2 stage. Most snow means nothing to me for clearing it.

Doesn't mean I like it.

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IBleedYellow

February 20th, 2019, 02:33 PM

I've got a 24 inch wide 2 stage. Most snow means nothing to me for clearing it.

Doesn't mean I like it.

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I enjoy it. Sounds like a personal problem.

clenz

February 20th, 2019, 07:15 PM

I enjoy it. Sounds like a personal problem.I'd rather mow my yard.

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CappinHard

February 21st, 2019, 01:56 PM

I've got a 24 inch wide 2 stage. Most snow means nothing to me for clearing it.

Doesn't mean I like it.

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Honestly, I had to look up what a 2 stage snow blower was. I was making sure I didn't need to upgrade or something! Living in SD, that's all I've ever known. There's little to no use for a single stage snow blower here. Upon further research, 3 stage snow blowers look pretty bad ass.

IBleedYellow

February 21st, 2019, 02:52 PM

clenz

February 21st, 2019, 05:39 PM

Same - I was looking @ what a 1 stage was and I laughed at it going "oh that's a nice toy that I'd break after one day."I had never seen one before I moved to where I am now. It's what 90% of my block has.

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Bison Fan in NW MN

February 21st, 2019, 09:59 PM

ST_Lawson

February 21st, 2019, 10:25 PM

West side of conference will be tougher??

xchinscratchx

At this point and for the near future, for sure.

As near as I can tell from the limited glimpse at the 2020 schedule that I have had, it looks like all the Dakota schools and UNI will have to play each other every year.
Meanwhile the other 6 schools get to skip playing two of the "Dakota region" schools every year.

Using Massey Ratings as a quick guideline, "The North" has the #1, #4, #9, #20, and #32 teams (average of ~13th). The "South/East" has the #12, #15, #17, #24, #43, and #47 teams (average of ~26th).

The one good thing, at least for the first set of years (I assume they plan on doing a 2-year rotation, like they been...barring any other changes to conference makeup) is that it looks like they tried to separate out the current "best teams" and current "worst teams" so that nobody from the south has the advantage of missing both NDSU and SDSU in the same year...two teams skip NDSU...two teams skip SDSU...but nobody skips both.

Likewise, nobody from the north has to skip both MSU and SIU in the same year (Having to play NDSU and SDSU while also not playing MSU or SIU...that makes for a pretty rough conference schedule). The closest we have (that I've seen so far) is USD, who plays both NDSU and SDSU and doesn't play SIU or YSU (two teams that they'd stand a decent chance of beating given the current situation).

Currently both SIU and WIU get to skip playing NDSU. SIU also skips USD, but WIU will skip UND, UNI, or one of the other "southern" teams. So it's hard to tell at this point who's going to have the easiest run of things. We'll have to see how everyone else's schedules play out once they're released.

But to make a long story short...yes...on average the Dakota teams and UNI will have a tougher run of things than the "East of the Mississippi Teams + MSU".

uni88

February 22nd, 2019, 08:50 AM

At this point and for the near future, for sure.

As near as I can tell from the limited glimpse at the 2020 schedule that I have had, it looks like all the Dakota schools and UNI will have to play each other every year.
Meanwhile the other 6 schools get to skip playing two of the "Dakota region" schools every year.

Using Massey Ratings as a quick guideline, "The North" has the #1, #4, #9, #20, and #32 teams (average of ~13th). The "South/East" has the #12, #15, #17, #24, #43, and #47 teams (average of ~26th).

The one good thing, at least for the first set of years (I assume they plan on doing a 2-year rotation, like they been...barring any other changes to conference makeup) is that it looks like they tried to separate out the current "best teams" and current "worst teams" so that nobody from the south has the advantage of missing both NDSU and SDSU in the same year...two teams skip NDSU...two teams skip SDSU...but nobody skips both.

Likewise, nobody from the north has to skip both MSU and SIU in the same year (Having to play NDSU and SDSU while also not playing MSU or SIU...that makes for a pretty rough conference schedule). The closest we have (that I've seen so far) is USD, who plays both NDSU and SDSU and doesn't play SIU or YSU (two teams that they'd stand a decent chance of beating given the current situation).

Currently both SIU and WIU get to skip playing NDSU. SIU also skips USD, but WIU will skip UND, UNI, or one of the other "southern" teams. So it's hard to tell at this point who's going to have the easiest run of things. We'll have to see how everyone else's schedules play out once they're released.

But to make a long story short...yes...on average the Dakota teams and UNI will have a tougher run of things than the "East of the Mississippi Teams + MSU".If I remember correctly this is pretty much spot on with what clenz predicted.

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POD Knows

February 22nd, 2019, 09:07 AM

Honestly, I had to look up what a 2 stage snow blower was. I was making sure I didn't need to upgrade or something! Living in SD, that's all I've ever known. There's little to no use for a single stage snow blower here. Upon further research, 3 stage snow blowers look pretty bad ass.This is what I have, I bought the 3X Cub Cadet a few years back. The three stage has the "center" auger to feed and these will go through a lot of snow but they will also leave little piles of snow every time you turn around and make another pass because there is kind of a dead spot in the center of the auger area. It is kind of annoying but that is the trade off for the increase capacity or something.I had to clear a path to my propane tank in my back yard and the snow was probably 3 to 4 feet on the level and it just walked right through it. I would never be without a snowblower up here.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30142&stc=1

Herder

February 22nd, 2019, 09:14 AM

Due to the lack of east-west balance in conference strength, there is talk of rebranding the Divisions in the Conference to . . . 1) Legends. 2) Leaders.

clenz

February 22nd, 2019, 09:24 AM

If I remember correctly this is pretty much spot on with what clenz predicted.

Sent from my XT1650 using TapatalkI mean....

I know some uni fans (and other schools) like to think I blow nothing but hot air.... But.....

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F'N Hawks

February 22nd, 2019, 09:44 AM

This is what I have, I bought the 3X Cub Cadet a few years back. The three stage has the "center" auger to feed and these will go through a lot of snow but they will also leave little piles of snow every time you turn around and make another pass because there is kind of a dead spot in the center of the auger area. It is kind of annoying but that is the trade off for the increase capacity or something.I had to clear a path to my propane tank in my back yard and the snow was probably 3 to 4 feet on the level and it just walked right through it. I would never be without a snowblower up here.

That is a hell of snow blower. Nice work.

Redbird 4th & short

February 22nd, 2019, 10:00 AM

West side of conference will be tougher??

xchinscratchx

this is only reason I am opposed to MVFC expansion ... I want to play every team once, period! And I don't want to go 8-3, make playoff, but have people question ISUr conf games SOS versus someone from "west" MVFC going 7-4 and not making playoffs. Because it would be valid point, particularly in years referenced by lawson, where we skip say 2 of top 3 from west. But clearly, the MVFC schedulers have been positioning schedules for UND move ... smart, but I want more balance of powers too .. for exact same reasons I have argued for more MVFC playoff bids prior to 2014 ... SOS.

I'm not offering an alternative .. other than, this would be avoided if we had stayed with 9 teams ... or when we went to 10 teams, expand conf schedule to 9 games ... moot point, because we're at 11 and counting. But I really don't want an easier conf schedule.

POD Knows

February 22nd, 2019, 10:02 AM

That is a hell of snow blower. Nice work.Mine is three years old, that pic is a the new model but it is the same basic machine, my snowblower is for sale, perfect condition. I think I am going to put a blower on my garden tractor.

Bison Fan in NW MN

February 22nd, 2019, 10:15 AM

this is only reason I am opposed to MVFC expansion ... I want to play every team once, period! And I don't want to go 8-3, make playoff, but have people question ISUr conf games SOS versus someone from "west" MVFC going 7-4 and not making playoffs. Because it would be valid point, particularly in years referenced by lawson, where we skip say 2 of top 3 from west. But clearly, the MVFC schedulers have been positioning schedules for UND move ... smart, but I want more balance of powers too .. for exact same reasons I have argued for more MVFC playoff bids prior to 2014 ... SOS.

I'm not offering an alternative .. other than, this would be avoided if we had stayed with 9 teams ... or when we went to 10 teams, expand conf schedule to 9 games ... moot point, because we're at 11 and counting. But I really don't want an easier conf schedule.

No way to 9 conference games IMO.

I guess, to make it balanced....if you could ever do that....all teams would rotate out of a schedule. So if it is a 2 year cycle now for teams then put all teams in that 2 year cycle. So NDSU would cycle out even the other Dakota schools.

This would never happen though.

We have what we have now. The Valley is tough as nails but you would think that poor teams would eventually up their game enough to become a upper echelon team in the conference.....eventually?

SIU, USD and MSU looked like dog sh** from what I saw from those teams. And that might be skewed somewhat but not everyone can be in the upper half of the conference every year. Maybe the Dakotas and UNI will regress and the eastern teams will move up and replace them?

xlolx......doubt it but I suppose it could happen.

Bison Fan in NW MN

February 22nd, 2019, 10:17 AM

I mean....

I know some uni fans (and other schools) like to think I blow nothing but hot air.... But.....

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You don't??

xchinscratchx

:)

Redbird 4th & short

February 22nd, 2019, 11:42 AM

No way to 9 conference games IMO.

I guess, to make it balanced....if you could ever do that....all teams would rotate out of a schedule. So if it is a 2 year cycle now for teams then put all teams in that 2 year cycle. So NDSU would cycle out even the other Dakota schools.

This would never happen though.

We have what we have now. The Valley is tough as nails but you would think that poor teams would eventually up their game enough to become a upper echelon team in the conference.....eventually?

SIU, USD and MSU looked like dog sh** from what I saw from those teams. And that might be skewed somewhat but not everyone can be in the upper half of the conference every year. Maybe the Dakotas and UNI will regress and the eastern teams will move up and replace them?

xlolx......doubt it but I suppose it could happen.

once you get to 12 teams, divisions make complete sense ... just don't like dealing with SOS implications in conference games. Look what happened to Colonial this year getting 6 playoff teams. On another thread I did the math on how much the top 5 colonial teams' records benefitted from the schedule dilution ... it was an average of 1.4 MORE wins for the top 5 teams on average .. meaning their win column was inflated by 1.4 wins ... so all those 7-4 Colonial teams would have been on average 6-5 if they had to play all the top teams. Some might even have gone 5-6, while others might have still gone 7-4 ... but the the top 5 would have had 7 more losses spread amongst them if they played each other.

Big Sky impact was actually less because they had just 3 strong teams. While MVFC was of course barely impacted since there is only 1 team we don't play and not necessarily a top tier team currently. I just don't want to be on losing ed of that valid argument .. again, all a moot point but MVFC will have to deal with this either way .. so more scheduling structure with divisions is better than not.

IBleedYellow

February 22nd, 2019, 11:50 AM

I say we boot out UND and go back to how it was.

Let em rot.

F'N Hawks

February 22nd, 2019, 12:14 PM

I say we boot out UND and go back to how it was.

Let em rot.

#MeToo

CappinHard

February 22nd, 2019, 12:21 PM

Mine is three years old, that pic is a the new model but it is the same basic machine, my snowblower is for sale, perfect condition. I think I am going to put a blower on my garden tractor.

Bring it down to Brookings this fall. If the Jacks win, I'll give you $600, if the Bison win, I'll give you $700.

POD Knows

February 22nd, 2019, 12:38 PM

Bring it down to Brookings this fall. If the Jacks win, I'll give you $600, if the Bison win, I'll give you $700.I would need $1000 for it. BTW, for all you snowblower lovers out there, below is a pic of the model of snowblower I had before I bought my new one. This is a 524 Cub Cadet on tracks, that that snowblower was the bomb. I bought it in the mid 90's and sold it in 2016 for $250. Mine was in a little better condition that the one shown here but if you can ever find one of these and it runs good, buy it. They are a little 5.5 HP deal but really easy to handle and could handle a surprising amount of snow.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30144&stc=1

IBleedYellow

February 22nd, 2019, 02:08 PM

I would need $1000 for it. BTW, for all you snowblower lovers out there, below is a pic of the model of snowblower I had before I bought my new one. This is a 524 Cub Cadet on tracks, that that snowblower was the bomb. I bought it in the mid 90's and sold it in 2016 for $250. Mine was in a little better condition that the one shown here but if you can ever find one of these and it runs good, buy it. They are a little 5.5 HP deal but really easy to handle and could handle a surprising amount of snow.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30144&stc=1

My grandfather had this snowmobile and it's amazing.

IBleedYellow

February 22nd, 2019, 02:09 PM

Really itching for more time on this beauty this weekend.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190222/5b0a7b421b58b13a8af9f73bd52882a4.jpg

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POD Knows

February 22nd, 2019, 02:21 PM

My grandfather had this snowmobile and it's amazing.I sold it to a guy that uses it as a Zamboni for his outdoor hockey rink. He has a tire snowblower and the rink was so slippery that he had to put chains on the wheels and they chewed the rink up. I sold it at a rummage sale, the guy that bought it practically wet himself, I guess it works really well, I bumped into him about a year after he bought it.

CappinHard

February 22nd, 2019, 02:40 PM

My grandfather had this snowmobile and it's amazing.

I suppose you could ride this thing... Wouldn't go very fast though I'm guessing.

POD Knows

February 22nd, 2019, 02:44 PM

I suppose you could ride this thing... Wouldn't go very fast though I'm guessing.Transport speed was about 4 MPH

IBleedYellow

February 22nd, 2019, 03:11 PM

I suppose you could ride this thing... Wouldn't go very fast though I'm guessing.

You can tell what is on my mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQrz_yuCH1Q

Buddies channel.

JayJ79

February 23rd, 2019, 11:16 AM

once you get to 12 teams, divisions make complete sense ... just don't like dealing with SOS implications in conference games.
How do divisions do anything to avoid SOS implications?
You're still going to have one division that is tougher than the other division.

There is already de facto divisions with the way the rotating schedules are setup, with a northwest division (Dakotas+UNI) and a southeast division with the rest.

Bisonator

February 24th, 2019, 12:45 PM

Here's my snowblower. :D

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30156&stc=1

Redbird 4th & short

February 24th, 2019, 04:43 PM

How do divisions do anything to avoid SOS implications?
You're still going to have one division that is tougher than the other division.

There is already de facto divisions with the way the rotating schedules are setup, with a northwest division (Dakotas+UNI) and a southeast division with the rest.

I think I was just reiterating my original issue .. might have edited it a couple times and lost my flow of thought.

I hope this won't affect my overall grade !!!

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Bisonoline

February 24th, 2019, 06:55 PM

cx500d

February 24th, 2019, 08:58 PM

Here's my snowblower. :D

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30156&stc=1

That's awesome, except the always backing up part.

cx500d

February 24th, 2019, 09:01 PM

Mine is three years old, that pic is a the new model but it is the same basic machine, my snowblower is for sale, perfect condition. I think I am going to put a blower on my garden tractor.

I'll sell you my gently used 1981 Kubota L245 DT for a good price. It'll make a good snowblower and finish mower in the summer. It has 4WD and turf tires on it vice ag tires.

Bisonator

February 24th, 2019, 09:44 PM

That's awesome, except the always backing up part.

It's not bad I just use the mirrors. Much better than the old cabless one. I can now blow snow in a t-shirt while listening to the radio. The rear wiper is pretty useless though lol

POD Knows

February 25th, 2019, 10:22 AM

I'll sell you my gently used 1981 Kubota L245 DT for a good price. It'll make a good snowblower and finish mower in the summer. It has 4WD and turf tires on it vice ag tires.Ish, not a fan of that tractor.

Redbird 4th & short

February 25th, 2019, 11:03 AM

I hate divisions. You never end up playing everyone in your conference which you should.
Over 2 year period I assume you would play everyone. All 5 from your division and 3 of 6 from other division. This is the structural consistency part I do like versus having 12 teams and no divisions ... though Jay thinks they effectively do same already. I had no idea how they rotated the team you don't play. The other aspect which I believe is function of having 10 teams and just 8 games ... you can't equitably rotate home and away. For example, we played WIU twice in a row at home and MoST twice in a row on road the last 2 years. I'd have to think about why that is but someone smarter than me told me it is inevitable with 10 teams and 8 games. With 8 conf games, 12 teams with 2 divisions of 6 seems to offer the most structure and consistency with the play all 5 in your division every year and 3 of 6 on other division ..then flip the games in other division a year later ... clean, no shenanigans other than figuring out home and way with odd number of games against both divisions.

Bisonoline

February 25th, 2019, 12:17 PM

Over 2 year period I assume you would play everyone. All 5 from your division and 3 of 6 from other division. This is the structural consistency part I do like versus having 12 teams and no divisions ... though Jay thinks they effectively do same already. I had no idea how they rotated the team you don't play. The other aspect which I believe is function of having 10 teams and just 8 games ... you can't equitably rotate home and away. For example, we played WIU twice in a row at home and MoST twice in a row on road the last 2 years. I'd have to think about why that is but someone smarter than me told me it is inevitable with 10 teams and 8 games. With 8 conf games, 12 teams with 2 divisions of 6 seems to offer the most structure and consistency with the play all 5 in your division every year and 3 of 6 on other division ..then flip the games in other division a year later ... clean, no shenanigans other than figuring out home and way with odd number of games against both divisions.

Over 2 years doesnt make it. If you dont play everyone you dont have a true conference champion. You will always have the argument that you didnt have to play NDSU or another team etc etc. If you play every team you dont need a conference championship game. Every game in the season is important.
The Big Ten did this even before they had divisions because they wanted a lot of OOC games and they didnt play every team. There is no reason to not play every team in your conference every year.

Redbird 4th & short

February 25th, 2019, 02:09 PM

Over 2 years doesnt make it. If you dont play everyone you dont have a true conference champion. You will always have the argument that you didnt have to play NDSU or another team etc etc. If you play every team you dont need a conference championship game. Every game in the season is important.
The Big Ten did this even before they had divisions because they wanted a lot of OOC games and they didnt play every team. There is no reason to not play every team in your conference every year.
I thought you were arguing against divisions once we grow to 12 teams. So you're arguing against having more than 9 MVFC teams ?? I prefaced my original post by saying, I would much prefer we stayed at 9 MVFC teams where we play every team once .. period. So I agree with you .. and I want a true champion. But that ship has sailed. The idea of not playing 3 conference opponents like CAA, or even worse, not playing 5 conference opponents like Big Sky is not appealing at all.

Bison Fan in NW MN

February 25th, 2019, 09:56 PM

Looking at NDSU's OOC slate this coming year, I'm wondering which team is the biggest cupcake. Is Butler too easy?

Butler
North Dakota
Delaware
UC Davis

IMO, Delaware will probably be the toughest test. UND might play inspired for awhile but no, they will get run over. And Davis doesn't play defense so I don't care what kind of spread offense they run, they will get run over and blown out.

mmiller_34

February 25th, 2019, 11:23 PM

Bison Fan in NW MN

February 26th, 2019, 06:41 AM

Pretty sure UC Davis was a seeded playoff team this year...

Agree with you that the Bison will likely run them over; but, calling them a cupcake?

Yes, they were a playoff team but watching them play defense, I do not think they will make it a game in Fargo. Just another spread team....

Thumper 76

February 26th, 2019, 10:42 AM

Yes, they were a playoff team but watching them play defense, I do not think they will make it a game in Fargo. Just another spread team....

Wasn’t that said about EWU a couple years ago?

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Redbird 4th & short

February 26th, 2019, 10:56 AM

Bisonator

February 26th, 2019, 11:06 AM

interesting how you can't get an FBS game anymore .. not surprised, but come on .. someone in FBS needs to show some balls and conviction.
We got Oregon next year, Arizona in 2022 and then Colorado in 2024. Apparently the PAC12 isn't skeered yet.

It's comical and disappointing how scared the B1G and B12 has gotten but not surprising I suppose.

ST_Lawson

February 26th, 2019, 12:09 PM

I mean...when the choice is:
Pay a few $100k for NDSU to quite possibly kick your butts
or
Pay the same to most likely crush a Murray State or a bit more to lay a beatdown on Bowling Green
it's kinda an easy decision

The whole point of FCS games for most FBS teams is to likely have an "easy win". As long as NDSU is not an "easy win", you're not going to find a lot of FBS teams willing to take that risk.

Bison Fan in NW MN

February 26th, 2019, 12:26 PM

interesting how you can't get an FBS game anymore .. not surprised, but come on .. someone in FBS needs to show some balls and conviction.

Our AD has told me personally that teams say NO. The Gophers are a consistent NO.

Sycamore62

February 26th, 2019, 02:14 PM

interesting how you can't get an FBS game anymore .. not surprised, but come on .. someone in FBS needs to show some balls and conviction.

I mean...when the choice is:
Pay a few $100k for NDSU to quite possibly kick your butts
or
Pay the same to most likely crush a Murray State or a bit more to lay a beatdown on Bowling Green
it's kinda an easy decision

The whole point of FCS games for most FBS teams is to likely have an "easy win". As long as NDSU is not an "easy win", you're not going to find a lot of FBS teams willing to take that risk.

Our AD has told me personally that teams say NO. The Gophers are a consistent NO.

It ain't about balls or competition, it's about taking a week off and making a ****load of money.

Redbird 4th & short

February 26th, 2019, 03:31 PM

It ain't about balls or competition, it's about taking a week off and making a ****load of money.
I completely get why middling FBS teams (ranked say 40-80 in FBS) wouldn't want to pay bunch of money to probably lose a home game to an FCS team. But top 40 teams (Iowa was 35 ish, Kansas St was 30 ish) both played Bison within 3 points in early season games. The rest of Bison FBS wins were teams ranked 70 to 105. Top end Big 12 and Big 10 need to step up and put their big girl panties on.

Again, I get the logic if you're a middling team .. makes no sense to pay for that game. But if youre upper tier P5, you need to grow a pair.

Bison Fan in NW MN

February 26th, 2019, 04:14 PM

It ain't about balls or competition, it's about taking a week off and making a ****load of money.

xrolleyesx

Does Indiana State have a hard time scheduling FBS games?

Thumper 76

February 26th, 2019, 04:27 PM

xrolleyesx

Does Indiana State have a hard time scheduling FBS games?

I think he was referring to the FBS teams not ndsu......

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Bison Fan in NW MN

February 26th, 2019, 04:40 PM

I think he was referring to the FBS teams not ndsu......

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Will SDSU/NDSU tickets down there this year be easier to come by?

Thumper 76

February 26th, 2019, 04:41 PM

Will SDSU/NDSU tickets down there this year be easier to come by?

I would guess not, but who knows

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Sycamore62

February 26th, 2019, 04:47 PM

xrolleyesx

Does Indiana State have a hard time scheduling FBS games?

I think he was referring to the FBS teams not ndsu......

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Yes I was referring to FBS teams.

As far as our scheduling, I believe the state advised the FBS schools in the state they needed to be making an effort to schedule in state schools for money games. Who the "the state" in this case is, I dont know but I heard that somewhere.

We have a hard time picking which game to take.

Evolution Prime

February 26th, 2019, 05:15 PM

Will SDSU/NDSU tickets down there this year be easier to come by?

Already sold out, sorry. :D

CappinHard

February 26th, 2019, 05:25 PM

We want Eck! We want Eck! We want Eck!

You got him.

https://gojacks.com/news/2019/2/26/football-staff-changes-announced.aspx

Professor Chaos

February 28th, 2019, 09:56 AM

You got him.

https://gojacks.com/news/2019/2/26/football-staff-changes-announced.aspx
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Bison Fan in NW MN

March 1st, 2019, 09:25 AM

Just renewed my football season tickets for the '19 season.

TMers dues are higher but fine with me. I guess my seats TMers dues will climb $100/year/seat for the next 4 years, which is fine by me. Well worth the money....xthumbsupx

CappinHard

March 1st, 2019, 10:43 AM

CappinHard

March 1st, 2019, 12:38 PM

Wow... what are they at now if they're going to be $400 higher per seat in 4 years?

Nvm, just looked up the prices in the link below... This is unreal... Some people are paying $3k per seat ($500 per game), and they're not even in a suite? Wtf... This isn't the NFL for cripes sake. You can get a seat in a loge box at the Dana for that money. Y'all are getting fleeced up there. You can talk about success all you want, but that price for FCS is asinine.

https://gobison.com/documents/2018/4/11//Football_Season_Ticket_Seating_Chart_Prices_2018.p df?id=11836

Bisonator

March 1st, 2019, 12:53 PM

Nvm, just looked up the prices in the link below... This is unreal... Some people are paying $3k per seat ($500 per game), and they're not even in a suite? Wtf... This isn't the NFL for cripes sake. You can get a seat in a loge box at the Dana for that money. Y'all are getting fleeced up there. You can talk about success all you want, but that price for FCS is asinine.

https://gobison.com/documents/2018/4/11//Football_Season_Ticket_Seating_Chart_Prices_2018.p df?id=11836

Supply and demand my friend. How long is the waiting list for season tickets at the Dyke? LMFAO I can't believe I typed that with a straight face. xlolx

Bison Fan in NW MN

March 1st, 2019, 01:01 PM

Wow... what are they at now if they're going to be $400 higher per seat in 4 years?

I'll be at $1375/seat for my 4 tickets.

I've been a TMer for almost 2 decades and the increases are for us "grandfathered" TMers to get caught up in the prices. I'm in the orange section and would gladly move over to the blue or red sections but no one gives up their seats (at least in a block of 4, which what I want).

Yes, they are expensive but the prices are fine with me. I'd pay for if I had to....xnodx

The ticket office told me yesterday that the season ticket request is a long one again.....xthumbsupx

POD Knows

March 1st, 2019, 01:03 PM

Nvm, just looked up the prices in the link below... This is unreal... Some people are paying $3k per seat ($500 per game), and they're not even in a suite? Wtf... This isn't the NFL for cripes sake. You can get a seat in a loge box at the Dana for that money. Y'all are getting fleeced up there. You can talk about success all you want, but that price for FCS is asinine.

https://gobison.com/documents/2018/4/11//Football_Season_Ticket_Seating_Chart_Prices_2018.p df?id=11836Yea, I would never pay that kind of money for a seat to a college game or any other game for that matter, there really aren't any bad seats in that building and to spend that kind of scratch to be closer to the 50 yard line is dumb, in my never humble opinion.

Bison Fan in NW MN

March 1st, 2019, 01:10 PM

Yea, I would never pay that kind of money for a seat to a college game or any other game for that matter, there really aren't any bad seats in that building and to spend that kind of scratch to be closer to the 50 yard line is dumb, in my never humble opinion.

To each his own.

I would pay right now to go to the 50 yard line in the 3rd row where I'm at now.

POD Knows

March 1st, 2019, 01:19 PM

To each his own.

I would pay right now to go to the 50 yard line in the 3rd row where I'm at now.Not me, I am a cheap seats kind of guy, I don't know what our tickets will cost but they were only about $50 last year. Hell, I stood in a corner for three years watching the games.

Bison Fan in NW MN

March 1st, 2019, 01:24 PM

Not me, I am a cheap seats kind of guy, I don't know what our tickets will cost but they were only about $50 last year. Hell, I stood in a corner for three years watching the games.

Football drives the engine at NDSU for sure.....

CappinHard

March 1st, 2019, 02:01 PM

To each his own.

I would pay right now to go to the 50 yard line in the 3rd row where I'm at now.

I just can't believe there are that many idiots that have that much disposable income that live around Fargo.

Honestly though... If you were paying that money for a suite with access to a club and access to beer in the stadium, that's one thing. But if all you get is a regular seat like everyone else, just in a good location? Nuts.

POD Knows

March 1st, 2019, 02:17 PM

I just can't believe there are that many idiots that have that much disposable income that live around Fargo.

Honestly though... If you were paying that money for a suite with access to a club and access to beer in the stadium, that's one thing. But if all you get is a regular seat like everyone else, just in a good location? Nuts.Yea, no beer in the dome, you can't even get a decent pretzel but we do have bacon on a stick, one piece of bacon and a stick, $3.

Bison Fan in NW MN

March 1st, 2019, 05:07 PM

I just can't believe there are that many idiots that have that much disposable income that live around Fargo.

Honestly though... If you were paying that money for a suite with access to a club and access to beer in the stadium, that's one thing. But if all you get is a regular seat like everyone else, just in a good location? Nuts.

It is called a loyal fan base. Maybe idiots to you Jacks fans but Bison nation supports its team.

CappinHard

March 1st, 2019, 05:19 PM

It is called a loyal fan base. Maybe idiots to you Jacks fans but Bison nation supports its team.

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TheKingpin28

March 1st, 2019, 10:37 PM

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How dare you use Lt. Col Sheppard and not even get the correct reference. xlolx

This is where they are lying on the planet as "General Hammond" and his kind won't let them leave due to the unstable vortex opening up causes "his" kind to die out.

CappinHard

March 1st, 2019, 10:50 PM

How dare you use Lt. Col Sheppard and not even get the correct reference. xlolx

This is where they are lying on the planet as "General Hammond" and his kind won't let them leave due to the unstable vortex opening up causes "his" kind to die out.

Ha, sorry, I couldn't vouch for the applicability. I've never seen a Stargate episode.

TheKingpin28

March 1st, 2019, 10:52 PM

Ha, sorry, I couldn't vouch for the applicability. I've never seen a Stargate episode.

It deals with a false reality, so I guess it is MVFC related since it is similar to SDSU's hopes of winning a National Title in D1 football.

JayJ79

March 2nd, 2019, 09:11 AM

college football isn't really about athleticism and talent. it is about which schools have the donor base to be able to buy their way to on-field success.
kinda takes the fun out of it

POD Knows

March 2nd, 2019, 09:14 AM

college football isn't really about athleticism and talent. it is about which schools have the donor base to be able to buy their way to on-field success.
kinda takes the fun out of itBull****, what is the donor base of EWU, SHSU, and others.

Bisonoline

March 3rd, 2019, 10:38 PM

uni88

March 4th, 2019, 11:24 AM

Bull****, what is the donor base of EWU, SHSU, and others.

There are a lot of factors such as donor base that contribute to the success of a program. NDSU does have a solid donor base, great fan support and is a flagship university in their state which gives them better access to more support and a bigger fan base (complain all you want about UND getting favorable treatment but what NDSU has (and the Montanas and Delawares have) is still better than being the 5th wheel in a state with FBS (or Power 5) schools. What JMU, App State and Ga Southern have accomplished in terms of success and fanbase is pretty impressive. NDSU also has benefited from great coaching staffs that were able to leverage their advantages and create unprecedented success. Donor base, fan base, etc. are helpful but they don't create success and they aren't an absolute requirement. Whining about the advantages doesn't change things. Other schools just need to work harder and overcome their disadvantages like EWU has.

cx500d

March 4th, 2019, 06:30 PM

There are a lot of factors such as donor base that contribute to the success of a program. NDSU does have a solid donor base, great fan support and is a flagship university in their state which gives them better access to more support and a bigger fan base (complain all you want about UND getting favorable treatment but what NDSU has (and the Montanas and Delawares have) is still better than being the 5th wheel in a state with FBS (or Power 5) schools. What JMU, App State and Ga Southern have accomplished in terms of success and fanbase is pretty impressive. NDSU also has benefited from great coaching staffs that were able to leverage their advantages and create unprecedented success. Donor base, fan base, etc. are helpful but they don't create success and they aren't an absolute requirement. Whining about the advantages doesn't change things. Other schools just need to work harder and overcome their disadvantages like EWU has.
That’s a tired argument. Iowa has 4x the population as North Dakota. Virginia has 11x the population. North Carolina has 13x the population as does Georgia. That kind of population and tax base can sustain much more.

Sycamore62

March 5th, 2019, 09:13 AM

a lot of factors go into success. you can be successful with a few and you can be unsuccessful with a bunch.

F'N Hawks

March 5th, 2019, 01:15 PM

Grand Forks just got a Casey's and it's right next to UND's campus by the Ralph.

The stars are aligning....for something...?

CappinHard

March 5th, 2019, 01:23 PM

Grand Forks just got a Casey's and it's right next to UND's campus by the Ralph.

The stars are aligning....for something...?

I would call it a good omen. However, you're going to need a lot more help than that to be relevant when you join in 2020.

Houndawg

March 5th, 2019, 01:34 PM

I think UNI starts a true freshman QB from game 1.

So...

That should work well in the Valley

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SIU will go D2 within a few years. Fewer than 10,000 students is going to be the norm now.

Sycamore62

March 5th, 2019, 01:41 PM

SIU will go D2 within a few years. Fewer than 10,000 students is going to be the norm now.

Things are worse at EIU. I heard WIU cut a bunch of jobs this week.

Houndawg

March 5th, 2019, 02:06 PM

Houndawg

March 5th, 2019, 02:10 PM

a lot of factors go into success. you can be successful with a few and you can be unsuccessful with a bunch.

Trut so pure. But you have to admit that NDSU is in a sweet spot. Who wouldn't rather dominate a weak division than be mediocre in a strong one? No brainer

CappinHard

March 5th, 2019, 04:26 PM

Trut so pure. But you have to admit that NDSU is in a sweet spot. Who wouldn't rather dominate a weak division than be mediocre in a strong one? No brainer

Yet many of them will clamor for going FBS. Delusional if you ask me.

clenz

March 5th, 2019, 04:45 PM

SIU will go D2 within a few years. Fewer than 10,000 students is going to be the norm now.The Illinois schools are in a big mess - ISUR withstanding. It's been talked about for years but it really feels like we are no longer inching towards a major bubble pop of D1 schools in Illinois. Rather we are jogging, at a minimum.

It may end up getting NDSU and SDSU into the MVC yet if that all happens.

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CappinHard

March 5th, 2019, 05:07 PM

The Illinois schools are in a big mess - ISUR withstanding. It's been talked about for years but it really feels like we are no longer inching towards a major bubble pop of D1 schools in Illinois. Rather we are jogging, at a minimum.

It may end up getting NDSU and SDSU into the MVC yet if that all happens.

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You going to move the MVC tournament to Sioux Falls? No? Alright then, we appreciate the offer, but no thanks.

For real though, I would rather see the Summit League and MVC agree to drop some teams and join together to create a really solid basketball conference (12 or 14 teams) that encompasses all of the MVFC teams and some solid basketball only schools.

clenz

March 5th, 2019, 05:38 PM

The obsession with refusing to do anything with a conference that isn't revolving around Sioux Falls is mind numbing to anyone outside of Brookings.

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CappinHard

March 5th, 2019, 06:04 PM

The obsession with refusing to do anything with a conference that isn't revolving around Sioux Falls is mind numbing to anyone outside of Brookings.

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I could argue that and the other SL teams would disagree with you, but beyond that point tell me why SDSU would be better off in the MVC? It's not the great mid major conference it once was.

clenz

March 5th, 2019, 06:57 PM

ST_Lawson

March 5th, 2019, 07:55 PM

Things are worse at EIU. I heard WIU cut a bunch of jobs this week.

132 positions. At this point I'm honestly surprised we haven't announced that we're going D2 yet.

uni88

March 5th, 2019, 08:57 PM

That’s a tired argument. Iowa has 4x the population as North Dakota. Virginia has 11x the population. North Carolina has 13x the population as does Georgia. That kind of population and tax base can sustain much more.

Thanks for responding to my tired argument with a tired and shallow response. Yes Iowa has 4x the population but that doesn't mean that UNI has realistic access to 4x number of people or financial resources. Iowans by a large margin are Iowa or Iowa State fans for a variety of reasons (approx 3x as many alumni, non-college grads gravitate to flagship schools, etc.) and I would estimate that UNI would be lucky to be able to count 5% of the state's population as fans. What percentage of NoDaks are NDSU fans? 40-50%? 5% of 40 Iowans = 2 while 40-50% of 10 NoDaks = 4-5. It's been a while since I lived there but when I did UNI wasn't even #1 in the Waterloo/Cedar Falls area. Is there any chance that NDSU isn't #1 in Fargo/Moorhead.

This also isn't meant as a criticism of NDSU. They aren't the only school with these advantages but they're the only one that has won 7 championships in 8 years. I have tremendous respect for what they've accomplished. If it was easy than SDSU, USD and UND would have done it too and Montana, Montana State and Delaware never would have stopped winning championships.

NDSU didn't come into FCS starving, naked and broke. They came in with some natural advantages and denying it doesn't make it less true. Stop getting your hackles up over posts that are complimentary but not fawning.

clenz

March 5th, 2019, 10:14 PM

132 positions. At this point I'm honestly surprised we haven't announced that we're going D2 yet.I would put large amounts of money, if I had it, on WIU being D2 by 2025. I'd be real tempted to make a move on SIUC and EIU with the right odds

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CappinHard

March 5th, 2019, 11:11 PM

Top 8 conference last year. This year is bad and still about 10 spots higher in conference rankings.

League is full of freshman and sophomores that will reload moving forward.

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What does that conference ranking get you? You're a 1 bid conference for the foreseeable future unless you happen to have a great team that doesn't win the conference tournament and gets an at large. If a team is that good, they probably would have been able to get an at large from the Summit as well. The fact is, once Creighton and now Wichita State left, the MVC is a shell of its former self.

clenz

March 5th, 2019, 11:45 PM

Thumper 76

March 6th, 2019, 09:30 AM

Grand Forks just got a Casey's and it's right next to UND's campus by the Ralph.

The stars are aligning....for something...?

Pretty sure that’s just part of the agreement when a team is allowed in the MVFC, but it’s a start.

At minimum the stars are aligning for good breakfast pizza before tailgating.

Thumper 76

March 6th, 2019, 09:34 AM

You going to move the MVC tournament to Sioux Falls? No? Alright then, we appreciate the offer, but no thanks.

For real though, I would rather see the Summit League and MVC agree to drop some teams and join together to create a really solid basketball conference (12 or 14 teams) that encompasses all of the MVFC teams and some solid basketball only schools.

Most shortsighted shared viewpoint of our fan base, and it drives me nuts. MVC is having their worst year and years and are leaps and bounds above the Summit still. Sorry to say but the Summit is trash and certainly won’t help SDSU our at all when it comes to getting decent seeds to get a chance to make a run.

I’ve said this before, but when one team poaches teams from the Horizon and OVC and the other is poaching teams from DII, they are not on the same level with each other.

Sycamore62

March 6th, 2019, 09:47 AM

I would put large amounts of money, if I had it, on WIU being D2 by 2025. I'd be real tempted to make a move on SIUC and EIU with the right odds

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I would put money on 2/3 of them closing when the bond market collapses and the state goes insolvent.

edit: within 10 years

Redbird 4th & short

March 6th, 2019, 09:57 AM

I would put large amounts of money, if I had it, on WIU being D2 by 2025. I'd be real tempted to make a move on SIUC and EIU with the right odds

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NIU is also slipping with enrollment down 19% since 2013. EIU is down 33% since 2013, but actually saw an increase this past fall .. interesting but short article attached. EIU is seeing support from community to reverse this trend. Added 7 new degrees and mroe scholarship money .. not sure of entrance requirements slipped to make this happen, but there are positives in what they did this past year.

ISUr was always careful with their money .. note how long it took to upgrade football stadium .. our east/road side was embarrassing face to the campus sitting there on Main Street ... and how they paid for when donor base wouldn't step up by waiting for student fees used to fund another project get 100% paid off BEFORE breaking ground on Hackcock 2.0 (25m for our new home/east side and zero additional seating capacity compared to previous eastside and southend zone). So they invested 25m in no additional seats .. overdue but well done.

So they adhere to the "slow but sure" approach and as a result have been able to deal with the state's reneging on funding commitments much better than the directionals were able to absorb. ISUr is now near the end of a $150m Redbirds Rising campaign .. taking longer than hoped, but we're getting there .. once achieved, some of the money will be used for multi-purpose indoor facility ... and once there is funding, they will do it and do it right ... not a year sooner.

We've been fortunate with the financial leadership and a board who refuses to get out over its ski's .. but getting things done seems painfully slow. And we remain an FBS wannabe that may or may not ever make the move. Would probably have to add more professional degrees .. this would certainly help grow the donor base with people who tend to make more money. Our own fans forget ISU was founded and chartered asa teachers school and still has no professional undergrad programs .. this limits our FBS aspirations, but we are good at what we do today because of our historical leadership .. slowly but surely changing as needed and budget allows.

https://www.nwherald.com/2018/09/19/our-view-niu-enrollment-declines-not-irreversible-or-inevitable/az1gmaw/

CappinHard

March 6th, 2019, 09:59 AM

Creighton has literally never made it out of the first weekend of the NCAA tournament. The idea they carried the conference has always been an interesting narrative.

WSU was a bottom 4 MVC team before they and 2 kids that couldn't get accepted at most schools (thank you WSUs 98% acceptance rate...I've heard one of them couldn't read when he got to campus..think the kids on Last Chance U) and paid for (were involved in the "leak" of schools/players with documented payments) got on campus. Since they've left campus they've slid back to being pretty damn "meh" pretty quick.

Without WSU and Creighton the MVC produced a Final Four team and a top 8 conference ranking

We will see what happens moving forward.

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It will definitely be interesting to see if the MVC can be more than a 1 bid league going forward. Regardless, I still stand by the fact that I think that the Summit and MVC would be better off it they both dropped some teams and formed a 12-14 team conference that encompasses the MVFC teams with other strong basketball only schools.

CappinHard

March 6th, 2019, 10:21 AM

Most shortsighted shared viewpoint of our fan base, and it drives me nuts. MVC is having their worst year and years and are leaps and bounds above the Summit still. Sorry to say but the Summit is trash and certainly won’t help SDSU our at all when it comes to getting decent seeds to get a chance to make a run.

I’ve said this before, but when one team poaches teams from the Horizon and OVC and the other is poaching teams from DII, they are not on the same level with each other.

I'm not saying the Summit isn't trash, I'm just saying that I don't know that we would be that much better off in the MVC the way it is now. Look at the last 3 years.

2018 - Loyola (28-5) 11 seed
2017 - Wichita State (30-4) 10 seed
2016 - Wichita State (24-8) 11 seed, UNI (22-12) 11 seed... Might have only been a 1 bid league if Wichita State wins the MVC tournament
2015 - UNI (30-3) 5 seed, Wichita State (28-4) 7 seed
2014 - Wichita State (34-0) 1 seed
2013 - Creighton (27-7) 7 seed, Wichita State (26-8) 9 seed

If we keep scheduling a tough non-con schedule and actually win some of those big games, we will get similar seeding treatment as we would in the MVC when we have a really good team and record and deserve a good seed. With that in mind, why not stay in a conference with an easy travel schedule and a conference tournament in our back yard?

clenz

March 6th, 2019, 10:48 AM

It will definitely be interesting to see if the MVC can be more than a 1 bid league going forward. Regardless, I still stand by the fact that I think that the Summit and MVC would be better off it they both dropped some teams and formed a 12-14 team conference that encompasses the MVFC teams with other strong basketball only schools.Being in an all sport conference with UND, USD, WIU, etc. is far more horrifying than having to play a conference tournament more than an hour from home.

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IBleedYellow

March 6th, 2019, 10:53 AM

Holy crap, do SDSU fans really think being in the Summit is better than being in the Valley?

xconfusedx

CappinHard

March 6th, 2019, 11:10 AM

Holy crap, do SDSU fans really think being in the Summit is better than being in the Valley?

xconfusedx

Lol, you gave me negative rep because I don't share the same opinion as you on a basketball conference? Man, I know this winter has been rough, but you're in that bad of a mood?

Again, I never said that I think that being in the Summit is better than being in the MVC. I have said that I don't think there's much to gain from joining the MVC in its current state. Rather than giving me negative rep... why don't you tell me what you think we would gain.

Thumper 76

March 6th, 2019, 11:46 AM

Lol, you gave me negative rep because I don't share the same opinion as you on a basketball conference? Man, I know this winter has been rough, but you're in that bad of a mood?

Again, I never said that I think that being in the Summit is better than being in the MVC. I have said that I don't think there's much to gain from joining the MVC in its current state. Rather than giving me negative rep... why don't you tell me what you think we would gain.

Well there is the pattern of the xDSUs elevating every conference they’ve been in so far, so I think that once they got into the MVC they would elevate their programs to a point that forces the rest to get better.

clenz

March 6th, 2019, 11:51 AM

Well there is the pattern of the xDSUs elevating every conference they’ve been in so far, so I think that once they got into the MVC they would elevate their programs to a point that forces the rest to get better.SDSU would he a great add for the Valley.

Most, non elitist private school football hating fans, want to see Murray and SDSU.

NDSU, otoh, has some big advantages it could bring (track and softball) but in the key areas the athletics side is looking at (mbb wbb and VB) they seem more like a massive detraction. And the issue of funding anything other than football looms over them

Also i grew up in the SF area.

St Louis, for all the **** parts of the city, during arch madness week blows the **** out if anything Sioux Falls could present from a fan stand point.

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IBleedYellow

March 6th, 2019, 12:00 PM

I'll say it again: if NDSU ever wants an invite to the MVC or a FBS conference - we need to fund the basketball programs like our football program. Track, Softball, Golf already are killing it and would compete day 1 in the Valley IMO.

CappinHard

March 6th, 2019, 12:07 PM

Also i grew up in the SF area.

St Louis, for all the **** parts of the city, during arch madness week blows the **** out if anything Sioux Falls could present from a fan stand point.

I don't doubt that at all. As much as I enjoy living near Sioux Falls, there are plenty of places I would rather go watch basketball for a weekend, St. Louis included.

POD Knows

March 6th, 2019, 12:07 PM

CappinHard

March 6th, 2019, 12:11 PM

IBleedYellow

March 6th, 2019, 12:22 PM

What additional funding do the BB programs need?

Paying our coaches competitively, for one.

POD Knows

March 6th, 2019, 12:31 PM

Paying our coaches competitively, for one.Maybe if they freaking proved themselves they could get a raise.

clenz

March 6th, 2019, 12:31 PM

What additional funding do the BB programs need?Higher pay to attarct and retain coaches - head and assistant.
Higher recruitment budget.

Better team room facility and upgrades to attract recruits and make areas that are attractive for kids to come in and use

Those are big ones.

Beyond that a funding things behind the scenes and things to make like easier and better for the programs.

Basically everything you do for the football program to be at 6m a year. Just in a basketball world. But in order to do that you'd need a fan base willing to donate to make that happen - like uni has had - or take funding for football from 6m to like 5 and shift it to basketball. There is zero chance that happens

NDSU and SDSU have basketball budgets of about 1.2 million, which includes scholarship costs

By contrast average MVC spending on basketball is about 2.8m

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clenz

March 6th, 2019, 12:34 PM

Maybe if they freaking proved themselves they could get a raise.When you're school only is willing to offer what other MMs are paying assistants, or in that same range, you can only expect so much.

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POD Knows

March 6th, 2019, 12:35 PM

Higher pay to attarct and retain coaches - head and assistant.
Higher recruitment budget.

Better team room facility and upgrades to attract recruits and make areas that are attractive for kids to come in and use

Those are big ones.

Beyond that a funding things behind the scenes and things to make like easier and better for the programs.

Basically everything you do for the football program to be at 6m a year. Just in a basketball world

NDSU and SDSU have basketball budgets of about 1.2 million, which includes scholarship costs

By contrast average MVC spending on basketball is about 2.8m

Sent from my Pixel 3 using TapatalkYea, they plowed millions into the SHAC and coaches salaries must be the lion's share of that 2.8 million in the MVC. I mean really, are sneakers and shorts really that expensive. Also, SDSU is spending the same as NDSU and have been kicking our asses for a couple years now, it isn't always the money.

POD Knows

March 6th, 2019, 12:37 PM

When you're school only is willing to offer what other MMs are paying assistants, or in that same range, you can only expect so much.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using TapatalkYou guys are 14-17 this year, what are you paying your coach? :D

CappinHard

March 6th, 2019, 12:45 PM

You guys are 14-17 this year, what are you paying your coach? :D

They're just young this year, it's one down year, don't worry... *checks notes, sees they're not over .500 in the last 3 years* well, maybe they should worry.

clenz

March 6th, 2019, 12:48 PM

You guys are 14-17 this year, what are you paying your coach? :DI don't need to dive into the details of what had plagued the team this year... But there have been issues outside of the coach control. And a few in his control that he fixed.

Keep in mind he also has a S16 appearance, 6 conference titles, multiple MVC COY awards, is UNIs winningest coach by a mile, is in the top 5 in the MVCs 113 year history for some as a coach overall and in conference, has won at least 1 game in the last 4 NCAA trips we've had, and had has multiple teams ranked in the top 25 and even in the to 10.

I'd say we pay him pretty accurate for what he has done.

What's your coach done?

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Bisonator

March 6th, 2019, 01:00 PM

Bisonator

March 6th, 2019, 01:03 PM

We do need to increase our BB funding but we need to find the right coaches first. Throwing money at problems rarely solves them.

POD Knows

March 6th, 2019, 01:04 PM

I don't need to dive into the details of what had plagued the team this year... But there have been issues outside of the coach control. And a few in his control that he fixed.

Keep in mind it coach also has a S16 appearance, 6 conference titles, multiple MVC COY awards, is UNIs winningest coach by a mile, is in the top 5 in the MVCs 113 year history for some as a coach overall and in conference, has won at least 1v have in the last 4 NCAA trips we've had, and had has multiple teams ranked in the top 25 and even in the to 10.

I'd say we pay him pretty accurate for what he has done.

What's your coach done?

Sent from my Pixel 3 using TapatalkYea, I get the history of your coach and the program, haven't done much lately but programs have ups and downs. I am not defending our coach or the program, if NDSU has the money to throw at the BB programs, have at it. They need to do something, both the MBB and WBB programs are in shambles but I don't think it is all because of the $$ in the program. Not a huge BB fan and if they shut down the programs tomorrow it wouldn't bother me. This is just not huge BB country up here.

clenz

March 6th, 2019, 01:55 PM

I mean we're ranked in the top 10 in the last recruiting cycle and we're in the NCAA tournament and win a game 3 years ago.

No one here cares about issues since then - and there have been issues and the results have been bad and Jake hasn't always taken the right action in them. We hit a down. We will be fine moving forward.

Sure, throwing money for throwing sake won't fix it. But money is needed to find a direction more money is needed to get a staff in place to lead that direction. Even more money is needed to get those guys on campus. The even even more to keep that staff in place as long as possible and/or properly replace them.

Bradley, for the last decade, had been a prime example of paying a coach a ton of money without a real plan, seeing it fail, and then throwing money at him to fire him, pay money on a buy out, then pay 750k at the new guy on top of that again and then leave him directionless again.

However, being "cheap" and hoping for lightning in a bottle once or twice a decade is a good way to literally just throw money away just like throwing money around like Bradley.

At least in Bradley's case it's clear the effort to win has been there. They just had weak leadership, made a bad hire, and have had to correct that. That's expensive even in the cheap world.

IBY had nailed it though. Any FBS dreams any NDSU fan may have will need to be driven by MBB. The MWC is a very proud basketball conference. While the MAC is known for #MACtion they play pretty good basketball at the top and are seeing the way their espn contract has ruined football and have out an emphasis on basketball.

Even from a staying FCS view - the NCAA tournament exposure, money, etc. is still worth millions of free advertising. Maybe if you win 7 out of every 8 titles moving forward it won't matter to you. But should a day come where it isn't that kind of run, basketball exposure in March makes a bigger difference in exposure and quality of students in general.

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POD Knows

March 6th, 2019, 02:00 PM

Redbird 4th & short

March 6th, 2019, 07:03 PM

We made the dance a couple times in the past few years and it didn't do **** for the program, nothing, zero, zip, nada. We also won a game in the tourney, BFD.
Bison football is tough act to follow .. March Madness is a big deal for most schools. But you kind of need to have big upset or reach sweet 16 to get national fame. But making tourney and winning 1 game can mean a lot to some programs .. maybe not Bison.

TheKingpin28

March 6th, 2019, 08:10 PM

We made the dance a couple times in the past few years and it didn't do **** for the program, nothing, zero, zip, nada. We also won a game in the tourney, BFD.

What did that upset against Oklahoma do? Coach left and the Bison BB team has been in shambles since. As much as I openly detest BB, I believe that if NDSU wants to get back to competing in the Summit and make a better overall push, they need to fund BB at a better level while ensuring a coach like Phillips is brought in who can rebuild the program from the ground up.

SDFS

March 6th, 2019, 08:12 PM

Creighton has literally never made it out of the first weekend of the NCAA tournament. The idea they carried the conference has always been an interesting narrative.

WSU was a bottom 4 MVC team before they and 2 kids that couldn't get accepted at most schools (thank you WSUs 98% acceptance rate...I've heard one of them couldn't read when he got to campus..think the kids on Last Chance U) and paid for (were involved in the "leak" of schools/players with documented payments) got on campus. Since they've left campus they've slid back to being pretty damn "meh" pretty quick.

Without WSU and Creighton the MVC produced a Final Four team and a top 8 conference ranking

We will see what happens moving forward.

Since CU and WSU have left the MVC. The conference has lost almost 1/2 of its fans. This has to be a major hit to the conference's finances. MVC is looking more and more like the SL. The SL tournament already draws more than the MVC. The only difference right now is the school averages... MVC around 4,000 and SL around 2,000 to 2,500.

Conference
Teams
Games
Total
Difference
Avg

Sessions
Total
Avg
Difference
% Difference

18
MissouriValley
10
156
627,314
-593,981
4,021

5
34,810
6,962
-36,219
-51.0%

17
MissouriValley
10
163
816,594

5,010

5
46,697
9,339

13
MissouriValley
10
168
1,221,295

7,270

5
71,029
14,206

CappinHard

March 6th, 2019, 10:34 PM

Since CU and WSU have left the MVC. The conference has lost almost 1/2 of its fans. This has to be a major hit to the conference's finances. MVC is looking more and more like the SL. The SL tournament already draws more than the MVC. The only difference right now is the school averages... MVC around 4,000 and SL around 2,000 to 2,500.

Conference
Teams
Games
Total
Difference
Avg

Sessions
Total
Avg
Difference
% Difference

18
MissouriValley
10
156
627,314
-593,981
4,021

5
34,810
6,962
-36,219
-51.0%

17
MissouriValley
10
163
816,594

5,010

5
46,697
9,339

13
MissouriValley
10
168
1,221,295

7,270

5
71,029
14,206

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Redbird 4th & short

March 7th, 2019, 08:21 AM

Bison already up 10-0 in the 1st. Its over. Time to look toward next year. Here is what I know will happen:

1. Youngstown State will play at least 2 NEC teams in the OOC.
2. UNI will crap themselves in the OOC.
3. USD, Missouri State, and WIU will look promising then won't be.
4. SDSU will lose a game to either Youngstown State, Northern Iowa, Illinois State, or USD and screw themselves from good playoff seeding.
5. Bison will win the Dakota Marker by a score of 31-14. The score will be tied with 2 minutes left in the 1st half. Bison will score going into halftime and immediately in the 2nd half to put the game away.
6. Southern Illinois will add some transfers.
7. Illinois State will make the playoffs.
8. SDSU will lose in the Quarterfinal against NDSU.
9. Bison will win the Natty.

Same old, Same old.

we're on an 0 for 2 streak .. but yes, we feel good about 2019 .. and yes, same as I said for 2018.

xbangx

clenz

March 7th, 2019, 10:47 AM

On topic of merging the Summit and MVC football schools...

If there was an agreement in place that all schools must fund football at a minimum of 3.5m and MBB at at least 3.0 I could get on board with not completely despising the following conference

ISUr
ISUb
MoSU
SIU
UNI
MuSU
SDSU
NDSU
SFA
And then one other that I cant pin point yet.

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Professor Chaos

March 7th, 2019, 10:57 AM

What did that upset against Oklahoma do? Coach left and the Bison BB team has been in shambles since. As much as I openly detest BB, I believe that if NDSU wants to get back to competing in the Summit and make a better overall push, they need to fund BB at a better level while ensuring a coach like Phillips is brought in who can rebuild the program from the ground up.
Shambles? Your expectations for Bison football must be rubbing off on Bison basketball or you're confusing the Bison WBB program with the Bison MBB program. The MBB program doesn't need a rebuild from the ground up, it needs a coach who can develop the existing talent and show a little creativity in game. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like that'll happen until the 2020/21 year. Even with the existing coaching staff the Bison MBB (as long as the don't lose any big contributors via transfers) should be in the conversation for a SL title next season.

TheKingpin28

March 7th, 2019, 11:05 AM

Shambles? Your expectations for Bison football must be rubbing off on Bison basketball or you're confusing the Bison WBB program with the Bison MBB program. The MBB program doesn't need a rebuild from the ground up, it needs a coach who can develop the existing talent and show a little creativity in game. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like that'll happen until the 2019/20 year. Even with the existing coaching staff the Bison MBB (as long as the don't lose any big contributors via transfers) should be in the conversation for a SL title next season.Richman is not the answer and yes, I expect the Bison to compete for The Summit every year. I have realistic expectations when it comes to BB, but you're telling me that after Phillip's left and his recruits left, 15-17 and 15-15 is considered acceptable? I call that shambles as Phillip's turned them around with HIS RECRUITS and in a 5 year recruiting window, went 102-40 with Richman at the helm as well. Playing
.500 ball is not something boosters will continuously pay to see.

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Professor Chaos

March 7th, 2019, 11:16 AM

Richman is not the answer and yes, I expect the Bison to compete for The Summit every year. I have realistic expectations when it comes to BB, but you're telling me that after Phillip's left and his recruits left, 15-17 and 15-15 is considered acceptable? I call that shambles as Phillip's turned them around with HIS RECRUITS and in a 5 year recruiting window, went 102-40 with Richman at the helm as well. Playing
.500 ball is not something boosters will continuously pay to see.

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There's a difference between failing to achieve expectations and being in shambles. Shambles is the WBB program where something like 10 players have voluntarily left the team in the last 4 years. The men's team has been average to above average in the SL under Richman. Coming into the year if you would've told me that they'll finish 15-15 tied for 3rd in the conference I'd say that was pretty good. If you would've told me that 3 years ago I'd say that's ****. Therein lies the problem is the bar has been getting gradually lowered for the MBB program over the last few years and I agree that Richman isn't the right guy to lead NDSU's MBB program but the fact of the matter is he's not going to be let go with a year remaining on his contract after a pretty decent bounce back season with a senior-less team. Next year that bar should be and will be back to contending for a conference title and if his team fails to reach that bar I'd sure hope it's sayonara for Richman and staff.

TheKingpin28

March 7th, 2019, 11:18 AM

There's a difference between failing to achieve expectations and being in shambles. Shambles is the WBB program where something like 10 players have voluntarily left the team in the last 4 years. The men's team has been average to above average in the SL under Richman. Coming into the year if you would've told me that they'll finish 15-15 tied for 3rd in the conference I'd say that was pretty good. If you would've told me that 3 years ago I'd say that's ****. Therein lies the problem is the bar has been getting gradually lowered for the MBB program over the last few years and I agree that Richman isn't the right guy to lead NDSU's MBB program but the fact of the matter is he's not going to be let go with a year remaining on his contract after a pretty decent bounce back season with a senior-less team. Next year that bar should be and will be back to contending for a conference title and if his team fails to reach that bar I'd sure hope it's sayonara for Richman and staff.The women's team isn't in shambles, the women's team is unwatchable and borderline beyond saving.

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Sycamore62

March 7th, 2019, 03:25 PM

I wish mommy and daddy wouldnt talk about basketball. have you guys tried www.anygiveneveningoftheweek.com

Sycamore62

March 7th, 2019, 03:26 PM

there is also www.somesaturdayandsundayafternoons.org or www.basicallyanytimeoverthanksgivingorchristmas.ed u

IBleedYellow

March 7th, 2019, 03:34 PM

I wish mommy and daddy wouldnt talk about basketball. have you guys tried www.anygiveneveningoftheweek.com (http://www.anygiveneveningoftheweek.com)

It's the beginning of March and a bunch of the Valley football schools are competitive in basketball.

So....

clenz

March 7th, 2019, 05:34 PM

It's the beginning of March and a bunch of the Valley football schools are competitive in basketball.

So....I wouldn't use the word competitive this year. But we care about basketball. That doesn't really exist in any large capacity in the summit schools

Or even Indiana State

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BisonFan02

March 7th, 2019, 08:30 PM

**** the MVC.....leave them be. Build the Summit....all sports conference and move on.

BisonFan02

March 7th, 2019, 08:35 PM

Speaking of Sioux Falls......They are hosting the NAIA DII national championships

http://www.naia.org/SportSelect.dbml?ATCLID=211655993&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=27900&&SPID=100395&SPSID=1177441

Go Jimmies! :D At least SOME basketball is still played in ND.

POD Knows

March 8th, 2019, 08:06 AM

Professor Chaos

March 8th, 2019, 10:02 AM

I wish mommy and daddy wouldnt talk about basketball. have you guys tried www.anygiveneveningoftheweek.com
Hey, it's better than talking about soccer.... which I'm sure is coming at some point before the pigskin starts flying for real again.

Redbird 4th & short

March 8th, 2019, 12:00 PM

Hey, it's better than talking about soccer.... which I'm sure is coming at some point before the pigskin starts flying for real again.
outdoor curling season has to be winding down .. can't believe there isn't more chatter about that.

https://media.tenor.com/images/e08da0e8908c4688dc44df1434a8a3d0/tenor.gif (https://tenor.com/search/toes-curl-gifs)

TheKingpin28

March 8th, 2019, 12:30 PM

Hey, it's better than talking about soccer.... which I'm sure is coming at some point before the pigskin starts flying for real again.Oh Oli McBurnie... xlolx

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