National Championship game thread NDSU vs EWU Jan. 5, 2019

[caribbeanhen]

Gunner no having any funner

[TennBison]

so now it's getting interesting with Stick rattled
1 interception and you consider him rattled, you must have considered your QB to be ready to check himself into a mental institute based on that.

[Rjones61]

Hope Barriere comes back, because Talkington, our third string, isn't going to cut it.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That was a helluva play by Stick!! Great communication and throw!!

[X-Factor]

He’s not rattled. That much I can assure you.

;-)

[Bisonator]

TD Shep!

[TheKingpin28]

What a TD!

[TennBison]

so now it's getting interesting with Stick rattled
Are you still considering him rattled after that play???? TD Bison!!!!!!

[caribbeanhen]

He’s not rattled. That much I can assure you.

ok I believe you

[JSUSoutherner]

That's game.

[X-Factor]

Hope Barriere comes back, because Talkington, our third string, isn't going to cut it.

I’m looking forward to more Bison homer refs in the 2nd half

[Bison56]

Anyone know what's going on with the EW qb? Did he get hurt in the tackle?

[TheKingpin28]

Anyone know what's going on with the EW qb? Did he get hurt in the tackle?

Sounds like hand/wrist injured but he was about to come back in until the fumble.

[Rjones61]

I’m looking forward to more Bison homer refs in the 2nd half


Oh, it's there. Plenty of no call holds for the Bison.

[JSUSoutherner]

Anyone know what's going on with the EW qb? Did he get hurt in the tackle?
Yeah, they said he ended up hurting his hand. Not sure if he's coming back in or not. He still had his helmet on.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy crap!! boom!! what a run!!

[fencer24]

Does anyone play defense in this game?

[Bisonator]

Wtf happened to our contain there jfc

[TheKingpin28]

What the **** was that? Shouldn't surprise anyone that Grimsley missed another tackle.

[JSUSoutherner]

That's game.

That worked better than I expected.

[TennBison]

That was a great run.

[caribbeanhen]

Holy crap!! boom!! what a run!!

he's been money the entire playoffs

[veinup]

this has been much more entertaining than I was expecting.

[Rjones61]

he's been money the entire playoffs


Hoping to see him land a spot on an NFL roster. Hope to see Dunn there as well.

[TennBison]

Hey we can throw the ball as well.

[The Kicker]

TO TO TO TD TD TD

[Bisonator]

Holy **** TD Shep!

[X-Factor]

Wowzers!!!!

[kdinva]

NDSU answers, fine play call and execution....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

There's the EWU defense I've been waiting for! pressure back to EWU offense!!

[TheKingpin28]

Not having Anderson out there is easily the biggest blow to either side.

[uni88]

Dude go back to wacking off to your shrine. You clearly don't know **** about football. DER I WATCH A DIFFERENT GAME YOU MUST BE WRONGBison fans are allowed to watch with their green colored glasses but EWU fans can't watch the game with their red colored glasses?

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[TheKingpin28]

There's that Big Sky defense I was told about.

[Rjones61]

What a great throw by Stick.

[veinup]

Big fluffy!!!!

[Bisonator]

That was a bomb by Stick and he dropped it right in the bucket!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That was a bomb by Stick and he dropped it right in the bucket!

Terrific execution. WR beat his man to give the QB a window, Stick delivered....

[caribbeanhen]

what is funny is spoiled Bison fans actually complain about Stick

[The Kicker]

I'm not a EWU fan lol. Just a football fan. Refs are calling both ways. have they missed some calls sure but that's every game. EWU has been driving the ball on NDSU all game. Had a lot of big plays called back on them where they could have had scoring drives and a much closer game. That is all I was getting at. The fact that "A" bison fan feels to call out that I'm watching some other game looks poorly on Bison nation to be. I don't mind calling out dickheads

[X-Factor]

The last two passes by Easton Stick have been TD’s

Not exactly rattled :D

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

EWU players are so good in space. This series is the game....

[Rjones61]

Wrong call. Bison are creeping up to cover the run, should have aired it out on 2nd.

[Bison56]

what is funny is spoiled Bison fans actually complain about Stick

Its pathetic actually.

[Bison56]

Said twice that this would be a nail biter and so far it's been dang close.

[caribbeanhen]

The last two passes by Easton Stick have been TD’s

Not exactly rattled :D

Yes I agreed with you already but I figured it was the 3 rd quarter and the Bison were not up by 30 it would test Sticks mettle..... haha

[TennBison]

what is funny is spoiled Bison fans actually complain about Stick
Not as much as you do, and your team only played him once.

[veinup]

I guess sometimes brothers gotta felony assault each other

[X-Factor]

Yes I agreed with you already but I figured it was the 3 rd quarter and the Bison were not up by 30 it would test Sticks mettle..... haha

Stick is now back to being human again! Damn!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That was a huge stop!!

[caribbeanhen]

Not as much as you do, and your team only played him once.

you don't read to much

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That was a quick possession for the EWU offense. Defense needs to hold again...

[TheKingpin28]

Is this where we get to see another signature 8+ minute Bison drive?

[TennBison]

you don't read to much
You are right, I am more of a movie guy.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Big mistake by NDSU on a first down....

nm...lol..that was actually a bad call...here comes nonsense...

[caribbeanhen]

Stick is now back to being human again! Damn!

who is odds of favorite to replace him next year?

[TheKingpin28]

Wow, what was that? He was running a route.

[SochorField]

Barriere has been exposed In the pocket as a passer. Some very bad decisions and a couple week throws.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

EWU fans have no place to complain. That was a huge sequence there!!

[TheKingpin28]

These refs just gave EWU the ball. And to think, some think the refs suck NDSU off.

[BisonBacker]

We got ****ed on that PI call.

[X-Factor]

who is odds of favorite to replace him next year?

Trey Lance, a current redshirt. But Zeb Noland from Iowa St is transferring in for depth/competition

[Bisonator]

Flag fest again

[Bison56]

We got ****ed on that PI call.

But they are wearing green!

[deez_na]

PI? Blind refs?

[X-Factor]

Trey Lance, a current redshirt. But Zeb Noland from Iowa St is transferring in for depth/competition

He might be similar to Stick. Chances are the Bison would rely on his running ability next year while his passing skills develop. Very similar to Stick in 2015

[caribbeanhen]

Trey Lance, a current redshirt. But Zeb Noland from Iowa St is transferring in for depth/competition

thank you, hopefully for FCS they both will not be up to the task...

[X-Factor]

thank you, hopefully for FCS they both will not be up to the task...

Will be an interesting game in Newark!

[gsf23nd]

We got ****ed on that PI call.

I don't understand? I thought the Refs were biased towards NDSU?

[TheKingpin28]

Why EWU is trying to get cute when they need all the yards they can get baffles me.

[TheKingpin28]

Not a fan of that by Darius. He should have caught that.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Why EWU is trying to get cute when they need all the yards they can get baffles me.

They've made so many mistakes in this game. Not the type of execution that's needed to beat NDSU...

[TheKingpin28]

They've made so many mistakes in this game. Not the type of execution that's needed to beat NDSU...

The fake FG made sense based off of distance to goal. Being around your own 30 and needing 14 points, that is not a call I would have made.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

95 yard back breaking drive?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

tick tock tick tock tick tock....

[caribbeanhen]

Will be an interesting game in Newark!

will be great to see all sold out Delaware Stadium, we will be a younger team that needs alot of talent upgrades, you will beat us up on both sides of the LOS

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Great throw and catch on 3rd down...

[TheKingpin28]

This is turning into an iconic NDSU drive.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

This is a thing of beauty. Such a dominant force. EWU is helpless...

[Bison56]

Classic Bison so far.

[Bisonator]

Bleeding the clock and squeezing the life out of EW.

[caribbeanhen]

Stick gets so much time from his mammoths and when nothing there burns you with his feet,

[TheKingpin28]

I hope we get to the 1 and they give Anderson the ball. He deserves it.

[uni88]

I hope we get to the 1 and they give Anderson the ball. He deserves it.That would be cool!

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[TheKingpin28]

That would be cool!

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Kind of like Grant Olson back in 13. Torn ACL but comes back out for a couple of plays to give him his senior send off.

[TennBison]

That first down is probably the back breaker.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The clock might run out before NDSU scores...lol

[Bison56]

I hope we get to the 1 and they give Anderson the ball. He deserves it.

Would love to see that.

[X-Factor]

EWU is gassed. Where is Kalm and Dude that said the Eagles won’t bend over in the 4th quarter? Classic Bison quarter right here

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That first down is probably the back breaker.

If I'm EWU I might let NDSU score. The only way to win at this point is to posses the ball and not allow NDSU to run any more plays...

[uni88]

Kind of like Grant Olson back in 13. Torn ACL but comes back out for a couple of plays to give him his senior send off.I like to poke fun at the Bison but Bruce has meant a lot to the program and I would like to see him get the TD if they're going to get another one.

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[TheKingpin28]

Would love to see that.

I rarely get emotional but seeing that would mean someone is cutting a serious amount of onions.

[TheKingpin28]

I like to poke fun at the Bison but Bruce has meant a lot to the program and I would like to see him get the TD if they're going to get another one.

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Bruce has been that guy that you knew would get a 15-100-1 line and he would go about it as if it was no big deal and just get back into the huddle for the next play.

[Bisonator]

If I'm EWU I might let NDSU score. The only way to win at this point is to posses the ball and not allow NDSU to run any more plays...

The games over.

[caribbeanhen]

ohh, Drunk blondies

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Go for it!

[TennBison]

Give it to Bruce!!!!!

[TheKingpin28]

We want BRUUUUUUUCE

[kdinva]

duck hook on the FG........EWU still has life.

[TheKingpin28]

This is why you give it to BRUUUUUCE!

[Bison56]

Dumb, always conservative.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

lol...why wouldn't you just go for it. don't trust your oline?!?! everything Bison football is about is getting 6 feet...

that was karma....

[Da Herd]

WTF was that? Was hoping to see them go for it.

[caribbeanhen]

duck hook on the FG........EWU still has life.

but it's a code red

[Bisonator]

Stupid decision by Klieman again. Horrible kick by Cam. Don't matter in the grand scheme but dumb anyway.

[TennBison]

No doubt we should have tried for the fake FG.

[No_Skill]

I sense a forced throw under pressure for a turnover.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The NDSU defender really bit on the run on first down...why?!?

[caribbeanhen]

the Bison coach was correct as usual for attempting the FG

[Prime Power]

CHOKE

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy crap!! like hot knife through butter!!

[No_Skill]

I sense a forced throw under pressure for a turnover.


Or that. Lol

[TheKingpin28]

NDSU is just phoning it in. This is crap.

[kdinva]

TD eagles.

[Bison56]

Kliemans conservative game and this is what happens.

[centennial]

Klieman should be ashamed of himself.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Crazy game...overall NDSU has dominated but it's a 1 score game...

Feels like the Georgia-Texas Sugar Bowl....

[TennBison]

Any chance NDSU forgets to defend the onside

[Bisonator]

Second play of that drive the WR was lined up offsides.

[Bisonator]

Recover this and run out clock.

[Redbird007]

Klieman should be ashamed of himself.

Quick..Fire Him!

[TheKingpin28]

Jabril with the return of 30+ yds! Hell of a play!

[TennBison]

Brainfarts

[TheKingpin28]

Damnit, now they have to do it again.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That should do it!

[TheKingpin28]

Grimsley with the hands.

[Smitty]

Is there a football game happening today?

[Bisonator]

Gotta get this first down.

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Or a TD lol!

[TheKingpin28]

Just remember this, he is not a Payton Award winner!

BEST PLAYER IN THE FCS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bisonator]

And there is your dagger!

[centennial]

Easton Stick helping Klieman not blow it.

[mmiller_34]

That has to be like the 30th time Stick has scored on that exact play this year and 60th in his career

[kdinva]

That was NDSU's best off. play call all game.......wins the natty!

[TennBison]

Lets see that EWU fan with the sign that says "You can't beat the best".

[Rjones61]

Congratulations NDSU. You have some amazing athletes on the field. Hope to watch many of them in the NFL. EWU won't be back next year, our senior class is just too immense. Hope to be back in two.

Congratulations on the unprecedented and likely to never be replicated dynasty.

[Bisonator]

Congrats on a great season Eagles!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Congrats Bison!! Various programs have tried but no one can match you guys...

EWU played hard but NDSU was clearly superior on both sides of the ball imo. It'll be interesting to see how they are under Entz. It's crazy how many really good FCS teams this NDSU program has deprived of titles. The ceiling is D1 Top 25 good.....

[centennial]

Congratulations NDSU. You have some amazing athletes on the field. Hope to watch many of them in the NFL. EWU won't be back next year, our senior class is just too immense. Hope to be back in two.

Congratulations on the unprecedented and likely to never be replicated dynasty.

Good game Eagles! We are losing our coach so not sure what next year brings. Good luck in the Sky!

[Bison56]

Good game EW.

[TheKingpin28]

Get BRUUUUCE in there for the final play.

Seeing CK crying hurts so much. I am going to miss the hell out of him.

[TennBison]

Great job by the EWU players and coaches, made it to the NC game with lots of injuries.

[Prime Power]

Great game by EWU, #2 team for sure. To all the NDSU team haters....suck it!!

[Obzerver]

Well played NDSU.

[TheKingpin28]

Good game EWU. I said it earlier, but Barriere is a hell of an athlete.

[MSUBobcat]

Great game by both teams. Clearly the best 2 teams but NDSU is just too overpowering this year.

[Red & Black]

Great game and congrats to NDSU. I wish the chips had fallen a little differently for us this year. Early on this season with a healthy Gubrud and healthy defense I really thought this would be our year. But to make it back to the chipper facing the kind of adversity this team faced on the way is really an accomplishment in itself.

Congrats again to the Bison. We’ll be back!

[Pards Rule]

One of the saddest things to see is this game at 11am on Saturday with zero pregame coverage. A minute before the game on ESPN2 and I am still watching old NFL clips. The NCAA needs a butt whipping for this carap.
true...goddamn joke...Just back from watching at two bars!

[Pards Rule]

There's going to be a ton of discussion regarding Monday's game! Get ready for it...
Couldnt care less....have toilets to clean Monday at 8PM

[Red & Black]

Congratulations NDSU. You have some amazing athletes on the field. Hope to watch many of them in the NFL. EWU won't be back next year, our senior class is just too immense. Hope to be back in two.

Congratulations on the unprecedented and likely to never be replicated dynasty.

Not sure I agree. There are some key pieces to replace (like McPherson), but many of the Seniors you referenced had already been lost for the year a while back. We got some young guys a lot of valuable experience in the playoff run, and recruiting has been immense thr past couple years. I think we’ll at a minimum be back to the playoffs next year. Why wouldn’t we be, given the last decade?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Couldnt care less....have toilets to clean Monday at 8PM

I love it! All of it! Then again I admit my sports fandom is simply not normal....lol. Then again I'd rather watch sports than have a wife and kid. xnodx

[Drblankstare]

What a game. Wow. EWU took a lot of haymakers and kept coming. I’m a big boxing fan and it reminded me of a great heavyweight fight.

[nickp]

Heck of a performance from Eastern Washington

[nickp]

“Today I got to be a Senior!” Chris Klieman

[Pards Rule]

And there is the Alabama that ESPN has to stroke. $$$

Will the promos REALLY lead to any more fans watching?!?! REALLY?!

[Pards Rule]

Congrats to both teams and Bison for another NC!! See ya...later this year in Newark, DE!

[Derby City Duke]

Congratulations to the Bison on #7. Only was able to watch the first half today, but it was a good game. Congrats to EWU for an excellent season!

[Schism55]

Hats off to EWU, those kids played hard and were well coached. Eagles will be back in Frisco I'd bet.
Hell of a swan song for Coach K and the 24 seniors! Go Bison!!

[Screamin_Eagle174]

true...goddamn joke...Just back from watching at two bars!

Truth. **** ESPN. FCS gets zero respect.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Congrats to the Bison... football players, on the end of a momumental run.

And the handful of NDSU fans that aren't sensitive little flowers (if you take offense to this, you're one of those flowers).

EWU will be back back next year even stronger; invaluable experience for EB this year. Get ready for the next coming of VA, with a defense to back it up.

[Bisonator]

EB was good but you could tell he was a bit over matched. He will be another great QB for EW going forward and this game will only add to his knowledge and hunger.

I was really impressed with your LB Ojoh, guy was fast and physical a lot like our Jabril Cox. He's only a sophomore too so no doubt EW will be back and better in the future.

Kudos to both coaches and programs for doing the right thing by holding certain players accountable for their actions and not allowing them to play in this game.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

EB was good but you could tell he was a bit over matched. He will be another great QB for EW going forward and this game will only add to his knowledge and hunger.

I was really impressed with your LB Ojoh, guy was fast and physical a lot like our Jabril Cox. He's only a sophomore too so no doubt EW will be back and better in the future.

Kudos to both coaches and programs for doing the right thing by holding certain players accountable for their actions and not allowing them to play in this game.

A little, yes. While he's likely exceeded expectations filling in for Gage, he's still been a skittish decision maker passing the ball, which you saw today. Had Talkington not come in and thrown that second pick in the 3rd, I think it would've come down to the last play.

[dudeitsaid]

Congrats NDSU, you guys are truly the GOAT. That 3rd down touchdown run was a dagger!

[semobison]

Key Stats:
Total offense-NDSU 488, EWU 357.
TOP- NDSU 40:05, EWU 19:55.

Bison 10 minute plus 4th qtr drive nets 0 points.

I though NDSU played ultra conservative with a two score lead.
Give EWU credit, they were in it until the end. No quit in the Eagles today!

[KPSUL]

Congrats to the Bison... football players, on the end of a momumental run.

Get ready for the next coming of VA, .

Sorry, didn't see that in today's performance.

[Gil Dobie]

Great game EWU, just a few turnovers away from winning.

[Bison56]

Sorry, didn't see that in today's performance.
Agree, not yet anyways.

[ming01]

Congrats to both teams and Bison for another NC!! See ya...later this year in Newark, DE!

Planning on flying out. Hope Philly has a home gsme too

[ming01]

Great game and congrats to NDSU. I wish the chips had fallen a little differently for us this year. Early on this season with a healthy Gubrud and healthy defense I really thought this would be our year. But to make it back to the chipper facing the kind of adversity this team faced on the way is really an accomplishment in itself.

Congrats again to the Bison. We’ll be back!

Ewu overcame a lot in this game. Most teams would've gotten stomped with the penalties and turnovers but somehow stayed in it.

[Southern Bison]

Congrats to the Bison... football players, on the end of a momumental run.

And the handful of NDSU fans that aren't sensitive little flowers (if you take offense to this, you're one of those flowers).

EWU will be back back next year even stronger; invaluable experience for EB this year. Get ready for the next coming of VA, with a defense to back it up.

How nice of you to show up after so long a silence...your mom must’ve grounded you from the internet.

Once again, without Bill Fette, you’re shown the door.

[Southern Bison]

Sorry, didn't see that in today's performance.

I agree...we’re relaoding next season, not rebuilding.

[Grizalltheway]

How nice of you to show up after so long a silence...your mom must’ve grounded you from the internet.

Once again, without Bill Fette, you’re shown the door.
Seven titles later and you're still obsessed. Did Bill **** your (second) wife or what?

[Red & Black]

Seven titles later and you're still obsessed. Did Bill **** your (second) wife or what?

xlolx

I’m starting to wonder as well.

[uni88]

Seven titles later and you're still obsessed. Did Bill **** your (second) wife or what?

Just one wife? With that much anger, I'm wondering if there were multiple family members involved.

[uni88]

Sorry, didn't see that in today's performance.

Nope. I thought he looked more like a young Easton Stick, made some mistakes, made some big plays. Similar mobility but probably has a better arm than Easton did early in his college career.

[Bison56]

Nope. I thought he looked more like a young Easton Stick, made some mistakes, made some big plays. Similar mobility but probably has a better arm than Easton did early in his college career.
He is going to be a good QB just needs some more experience.

[Outsider1]

Sorry I am late to congratulate, ran out as soon as the game was over to catch a few hours of fishing while the afternoon was so nice.

1) Congrats to both NDSU and EWU, both of you made the FCS proud.
2) ESPN and NCAA, you both need to be ashamed of yourselves for disrespecting these teams so bad with horrible game promotion, coverage, and then using the game to do nothing but promote and push the FBS championship game.
3) Back to congrats of the Bizon and Eagles....

[ElCid]

Outcome was just about as expected.

Not sure if it was mentioned or not, but Massey predicted a score of 38-24. Pretty good. Weird, but pretty damn good.

[dewey]

Congratulations to Eastern Washington on a great season and having the never die attitude today. Numerous times they could have rolled over but kept fighting until the end.

We were on the field afterwards and we got to shake hands with EWU QB EB. Very nice young man. I said that he had a great season and good luck in the future. He just said thank you.

We, NDSU fans, are truly a blessed fan base to be part of the greatest college football dynasty in the history of the NCAA at any level.

I got to take the entire family to the game. We got to make some great memories, pictures with NDSU players, play catch on the field, confetti angles and we even got the game worn gloves from NDSU Junior defensive tackle Jack Darnell. He will be a favorite of our house for a long time.

I have now had the pleasure to see 7 titles in person, my oldest has now seen 3, my middle son and wife 2 and my little man has now seen his 1st title.

Even if the rund end today and the Bison never win another title again this has truly been an incredible ride. I think there are more to come however:D

Go Bison!

Dewey

[cx500d]

Congrats to both teams and Bison for another NC!! See ya...later this year in Newark, DE!

I will be there in person....

[kalm]

Sorry I am late to congratulate, ran out as soon as the game was over to catch a few hours of fishing while the afternoon was so nice.

1) Congrats to both NDSU and EWU, both of you made the FCS proud.
2) ESPN and NCAA, you both need to be ashamed of yourselves for disrespecting these teams so bad with horrible game promotion, coverage, and then using the game to do nothing but promote and push the FBS championship game.
3) Back to congrats of the Bizon and Eagles....

What did you catch?

Congrats, Bizon. I figured we could hang but was surprised we were able to given all the mistakes.

Two biggest plays of the game were the Talkington fumble and the blown coverage on Shep.

QB play was also a difference maker as expected. Talent is there for Barriere and I expect him to be like Stick as he progresses.

If we don’t have too much of a drop off at corner and oline we should be pretty damned good next year. Young, but some backups saw a ton of action this season.

[Pards Rule]

Planning on flying out. Hope Philly has a home gsme too

Me too..Some Bison fans Im still in contact with hope for a three-fer: Delaware, Eagles and...a Lafayette game! We play Monmouth at home

[AmsterBison]

EWU's defense was way better than I thought it would be. Very fast, good LBers. And you couldn't fit a piece of paper between NDSU WRs and EWU DBs on most plays.

[Outsider1]

What did you catch?

Congrats, Bizon. I figured we could hang but was surprised we were able to given all the mistakes.

Two biggest plays of the game were the Talkington fumble and the blown coverage on Shep.


QB play was also a difference maker as expected. Talent is there for Barriere and I expect him to be like Stick as he progresses.

If we don’t have too much of a drop off at corner and oline we should be pretty damned good next year. Young, but some backups saw a ton of action this season.

I hope to be able to play EWU next year in the play-offs. Attached is one of my spoils of yesterday. I had to watch the game first, but I also couldn't let a 70 degree January day go unfished.......
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29843&stc=1

[kalm]

I hope to be able to play EWU next year in the play-offs. Attached is one of my spoils of yesterday. I had to watch the game first, but I also couldn't let a 70 degree January day go unfished.......
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29843&stc=1

Bass fishing from a kayak? My brotha!

Nice fish too.

[Outsider1]

Bass fishing from a kayak? My brotha!

Nice fish too.

A good game of FCS football and a good afternoon of fishing... How could you go wrong?

[BisonBacker]

I hope to be able to play EWU next year in the play-offs. Attached is one of my spoils of yesterday. I had to watch the game first, but I also couldn't let a 70 degree January day go unfished.......
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29843&stc=1

I'm jealous of the weather and the fishing. It'd look better if that fish was a Walleye but you take what you can get.

[TheRevSFA]

A good game of FCS football and a good afternoon of fishing... How could you go wrong?

Possum kingdom? Or closer to Abilene?

[Outsider1]

Possum kingdom? Or closer to Abilene?

Nah, not Possum Kingdom, just a little lake outside Abilene. If I could do any fishing up north it would be big Muskie.... If I could head south, it would be Peacock Bass.

[Professor Chaos]

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Great picture!

Bison nation came out in full force for #7.

[AmsterBison]

Did not like the big umbrella over the end zone or the shadow it created.

[Professor Chaos]

EB was good but you could tell he was a bit over matched. He will be another great QB for EW going forward and this game will only add to his knowledge and hunger.

I was really impressed with your LB Ojoh, guy was fast and physical a lot like our Jabril Cox. He's only a sophomore too so no doubt EW will be back and better in the future.

Kudos to both coaches and programs for doing the right thing by holding certain players accountable for their actions and not allowing them to play in this game.
I had a lot of respect for Ojoh. Then I saw this:

https://twitter.com/RossUglem/status/1082696876284096513

[POD Knows]

I had a lot of respect for Ojoh. Then I saw this:

https://twitter.com/RossUglem/status/1082696876284096513Saw that as well, it was a little bitch move. Somebody should have stomped his teeth out.

[X-Factor]

I wonder which MVFC game tape he watched to learn that little trick?

[Bisonoline]

I had a lot of respect for Ojoh. Then I saw this:

https://twitter.com/RossUglem/status/1082696876284096513

He was pretty chippy all game.

[kalm]

I had a lot of respect for Ojoh. Then I saw this:

https://twitter.com/RossUglem/status/1082696876284096513

Saw that play as well and wondered about it.

1) When was the whistle blown?

2) The ball was loose.

3) Ojoh's head is down and he's holding on for dear life, gator wrestling a 6'4" 230 lb beast. Refer back to #'s 1 and 2 with this.

4) slow motion or still images can greatly skew the perception of what happened in real time. I watched this clip on FB this morning and will ask the same question, can we get a video in real time?

It may have been a cheap play and if it was, knowing Best and LB's coach Josh Fetter it will be reviewed and dealt with. But I saw a far worse incident in the Davis game and I can guarantee you Bizon players have been guilty of worse. It happens all the time and I'd be surprised if it didn't happen elsewhere in this game.

Reminder...it's football and you guys actually did win this game as well as 7 of the last 8 championships. Sometimes I think you forget.

xthumbsupx

[kalm]

Saw that as well, it was a little bitch move. Somebody should have stomped his teeth out.

Wait...I thought Bizon were better than that and should rise above? xlolx

[Professor Chaos]

Saw that play as well and wondered about it.

1) When was the whistle blown?

2) The ball was loose.

3) Ojoh's head is down and he's holding on for dear life, gator wrestling a 6'4" 230 lb beast. Refer back to #'s 1 and 2 with this.

4) slow motion or still images can greatly skew the perception of what happened in real time. I watched this clip on FB this morning and will ask the same question, can we get a video in real time?

It may have been a cheap play and if it was, knowing Best and LB's coach Josh Fetter it will be reviewed and dealt with. But I saw a far worse incident in the Davis game and I can guarantee you Bizon players have been guilty of worse. It happens all the time and I'd be surprised if it didn't happen elsewhere in this game.

Reminder...it's football and you guys actually did win this game as well as 7 of the last 8 championships. Sometimes I think you forget.

xthumbsupx
There is video in the tweet. If he knew the ball was out he certainly knew that Stick was down so you can't claim he knew the ball was out and he was trying to "wrestle down a beast". It was a cheap move and I'd say the same thing if I saw video of an NDSU player doing that. If you guarantee that NDSU players do worse show me a video and I'll back up that admission. What burns me the most about this was that this is on a guy who is slated to play in the Shrine Bowl later this month, compete at the NFL Combine next month, and potentially set himself up financially for life if he does well and a bull**** move like this could've easily robbed him of that opportunity.

So yeah I'm steamed about it.

[POD Knows]

Wait...I thought Bizon were better than that and should rise above? xlolxWe are and it pisses me off.

[POD Knows]

There is video in the tweet. If he knew the ball was out he certainly knew that Stick was down so you can't claim he knew the ball was out and he was trying to "wrestle down a beast". It was a cheap move and I'd say the same thing if I saw video of an NDSU player doing that. If you guarantee that NDSU players do worse show me a video and I'll back up that admission. What burns me the most about this was that this is on a guy who is slated to play in the Shrine Bowl later this month, compete at the NFL Combine next month, and potentially set himself up financially for life if he does well and a bull**** move like this could've easily robbed him of that opportunity.

So yeah I'm steamed about it.I watched the replay of the game and saw it there, it was obvious as hell and a bush league play, no matter how you look at it.

[kalm]

There is video in the tweet. If he knew the ball was out he certainly knew that Stick was down so you can't claim he knew the ball was out and he was trying to "wrestle down a beast". It was a cheap move and I'd say the same thing if I saw video of an NDSU player doing that. If you guarantee that NDSU players do worse show me a video and I'll back up that admission. What burns me the most about this was that this is on a guy who is slated to play in the Shrine Bowl later this month, compete at the NFL Combine next month, and potentially set himself up financially for life if he does well and a bull**** move like this could've easily robbed him of that opportunity.

So yeah I'm steamed about it.

Couldn’t find real time video in the tweet. Please post.

If his head is down and he hears a teammate yell “ball out” and hasn’t heard a whistle he keeps going.

If the ball may be out the best thing he can do is continue with Stick keeping him away from the ball. That literally happened in one of Eastern’s playoff games on a blocked kick.

I’m not gonna go digging for you. To think NDSU’s **** doesn’t stink is laughable. As mentioned, it happened egregiously in the Davis game to us but unless the player was injured, it’s called, or brought up by our coaches I’m going to chalk it up to football and let it go.

I get why you’re steamed. If it was proven to be dirty, it’s wrong, doesn’t represent who EWU is, and will be addressed.

[Professor Chaos]

Couldn’t find real time video in the tweet. Please post.

If his head is down and he hears a teammate yell “ball out” and hasn’t heard a whistle he keeps going.

If the ball may be out the best thing he can do is continue with Stick keeping him away from the ball. That literally happened in one of Eastern’s playoff games on a blocked kick.

I’m not gonna go digging for you. To think NDSU’s **** doesn’t stink is laughable. As mentioned, it happened egregiously in the Davis game to us but unless the player was injured, it’s called, or brought up by our coaches I’m going to chalk it up to football and let it go.

I get why you’re steamed. If it was proven to be dirty, it’s wrong, doesn’t represent who EWU is, and will be addressed.
https://youtu.be/fjKJf6ErvGE?t=53m43s

I'm not saying NDSU's **** doesn't stink I said if I saw an NDSU player doing that to an opponent I would call it what it is and that's a bush league cheap shot. I don't care if the whistle hasn't blown that's a move that's intended to injure a guy that is already on the ground. That's not football it's pro wrestling. And it's a bull**** excuse to say he was trying to keep Stick away from a loose ball. If the ball was loose maybe go cover it instead of gator rolling while clutching a downed players' lower leg??? I also don't agree that it should be forgotten because it didn't cause an injury. It easily could've and would've tainted a good competitive game and put Stick's NFL shot in jeopardy and if he does it again in the future that may happen to somebody else.

EDIT: And if you'll notice after he got up Ojoh was not one of about 6 EWU defenders pointing in their direction as if it was a fumble. In fact he seems oblivious to his pointing teammates. Sure looks to me like he had no idea the ball was jarred loose (after Stick's knee had already hit the turf of course).

[IBleedYellow]

**** him.

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[BisonFan02]

Yeah.....that was pretty dirty.

[TheKingpin28]

That is beyond inexcusable. As PC said, if one of NDSU players did that, I'd hope they were off the team as well. That's how you tear a ligament/break ankle real quick. If he wanted to keep him away from the ball, he would have tried to climb on top of him, not keep rolling the way he did.

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[Professor Chaos]

That is beyond inexcusable. As PC said, if one of NDSU players did that, I'd hope they were off the team as well. That's how you tear a ligament/break ankle real quick. If he wanted to keep him away from the ball, he would have tried to climb on top of him, not keep rolling the way he did.

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I don't think that should dictate that a player is kicked off the team. I'd hope if a coach sees something like that he has a talk with the player and unless the player has a real good excuse you give him some extra "conditioning reps" after practice and if it becomes a trend you park his ass on the bench.

Stuff like that will be retaliated in kind at some point if it becomes a Suh-like trend.

[kalm]

https://youtu.be/fjKJf6ErvGE?t=53m43s

I'm not saying NDSU's **** doesn't stink I said if I saw an NDSU player doing that to an opponent I would call it what it is and that's a bush league cheap shot. I don't care if the whistle hasn't blown that's a move that's intended to injure a guy that is already on the ground. That's not football it's pro wrestling. And it's a bull**** excuse to say he was trying to keep Stick away from a loose ball. If the ball was loose maybe go cover it instead of gator rolling while clutching a downed players' lower leg??? I also don't agree that it should be forgotten because it didn't cause an injury. It easily could've and would've tainted a good competitive game and put Stick's NFL shot in jeopardy and if he does it again in the future that may happen to somebody else.

EDIT: And if you'll notice after he got up Ojoh was not one of about 6 EWU defenders pointing in their direction as if it was a fumble. In fact he seems oblivious to his pointing teammates. Sure looks to me like he had no idea the ball was jarred loose (after Stick's knee had already hit the turf of course).

Thanks for posting the full speed clip. What I don't like is Ojoh talking trash after the play while Stick is on the ground. It's still a bit inconclusive due to the different angle from the slo mo capture but I can see why you have a problem with it. Again, I saw the same thing done to one of our WR's in the Davis game too. If it gets caught and is a penalty, you potentially hurt your team whether it's a conference game where the conference office can review it later and suspend you or just the shear yards of penalty in the Chipper. If that's the case, it will get addressed by the coaching staff and it won't be a fun conversation for him. I just hesitate to cast judgement quickly without considering all of the circumstances including the speed of the game and when the whistle blows. I'm sorry you think that's a bull**** excuse. I call it reality.

It's sort of like off-field troubles and why I don't hammer other teams for them. I've been around the game long enough to recognize that no single team is above these type of behaviors and they can happen to everyone...including EWU. Some are better than others and EWU is not known as a dirty team so like I said, if it's a legit concern it will be dealt with.

Keep in mind, I watched 60 minutes of football where PSU several times successfully chop blocked/went for the knees and knocked our leading pass rusher and a starting safety out of the game and in the case of the pass rusher, finished his career. Yet it in the end the two teams still met at midfield and hugged and neither coaching staff mentioned it. That suggests it's an unfortunate part of the game.

[kalm]

I don't think that should dictate that a player is kicked off the team. I'd hope if a coach sees something like that he has a talk with the player and unless the player has a real good excuse you give him some extra "conditioning reps" after practice and if it becomes a trend you park his ass on the bench.

Stuff like that will be retaliated in kind at some point if it becomes a Suh-like trend.

We're on the same page here, PC. Phew...I don't like arguing with you. :D

[TheKingpin28]

I don't think that should dictate that a player is kicked off the team. I'd hope if a coach sees something like that he has a talk with the player and unless the player has a real good excuse you give him some extra "conditioning reps" after practice and if it becomes a trend you park his ass on the bench.

Stuff like that will be retaliated in kind at some point if it becomes a Suh-like trend.If there is intent to injure, imo, you have to set the example and kick them off. It let's others know that it will not be tolerated regardless of how good one is. If Stick would have been injured, all hell would have broken loose.

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[uni88]

I don't think that should dictate that a player is kicked off the team. I'd hope if a coach sees something like that he has a talk with the player and unless the player has a real good excuse you give him some extra "conditioning reps" after practice and if it becomes a trend you park his ass on the bench.

Stuff like that will be retaliated in kind at some point if it becomes a Suh-like trend.

True.

Of course I thought the same thing about Hendricks hit on Christion. It's an opportunity for a coach to help a player get better - technique for Hendricks, sportsmanship for Ojoh. Just because it didn't get flagged doesn't mean it didn't happen and isn't an opportunity for improvement.

[POD Knows]

True.

Of course I thought the same thing about Hendricks hit on Christion. It's an opportunity for a coach to help a player get better - technique for Hendricks, sportsmanship for Ojoh. Just because it didn't get flagged doesn't mean it didn't happen and isn't an opportunity for improvement.
The Hendricks hit was clean

[uni88]

The Hendricks hit was clean

I'm on record stating that I didn't think it was intentional or dirty but he hit a sliding QB in the head. If the situation was reversed and Rozeboom hit Stick like that this board and Fargo would have exploded in outrage.

[POD Knows]

I'm on record stating that I didn't think it was intentional or dirty but he hit a sliding QB in the head. If the situation was reversed and Rozeboom hit Stick like that this board and Fargo would have exploded in outrage.No we wouldn't have because Stick wouldn't have slid, he would have tried to run through him.

[IBleedYellow]

I'm on record stating that I didn't think it was intentional or dirty but he hit a sliding QB in the head. If the situation was reversed and Rozeboom hit Stick like that this board and Fargo would have exploded in outrage.Most likely.

Personally don't like QBs that slide though. Seems like they get hurt more than not.

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[dewey]

I don't think that should dictate that a player is kicked off the team. I'd hope if a coach sees something like that he has a talk with the player and unless the player has a real good excuse you give him some extra "conditioning reps" after practice and if it becomes a trend you park his ass on the bench.

Stuff like that will be retaliated in kind at some point if it becomes a Suh-like trend.

Completely agree. I would imagine that there has been a Bison player in history that has done something stupid.

However this was a cheap move.

Dewey

[dewey]

Here are the TV ratings from the National Championship game.

https://www.inforum.com/sports/football/948325-McFeely-TV-ratings-drop-for-Bison-title-game

Dewey

[Professor]

Looks like America doesn't care about the FCS title game, Interesting

[X-Factor]

Saw that play as well and wondered about it.

1) When was the whistle blown?

2) The ball was loose.

3) Ojoh's head is down and he's holding on for dear life, gator wrestling a 6'4" 230 lb beast. Refer back to #'s 1 and 2 with this.

4) slow motion or still images can greatly skew the perception of what happened in real time. I watched this clip on FB this morning and will ask the same question, can we get a video in real time?

It may have been a cheap play and if it was, knowing Best and LB's coach Josh Fetter it will be reviewed and dealt with. But I saw a far worse incident in the Davis game and I can guarantee you Bizon players have been guilty of worse. It happens all the time and I'd be surprised if it didn't happen elsewhere in this game.

Reminder...it's football and you guys actually did win this game as well as 7 of the last 8 championships. Sometimes I think you forget.

xthumbsupx

What does winning 7 of 8 titles have to do with the validity of pointing out a cheap shot by an EWU defender? That seems like a poor attempt at deflecting the severity of the move. It’s not like Bison fans are wallowing around blaming refs for being wronged like some fans have been doing

[Bisonator]

I had a lot of respect for Ojoh. Then I saw this:

https://twitter.com/RossUglem/status/1082696876284096513
I didn't realize that was him on that play. Must have learned how to tackle the same place as Rosebum. Cheap and dirty!

You never ever alligator role with someone's leg unless you are trying to injure them. There is no use for that in football.

[Southern Bison]

Looks like America doesn't care about the FCS title game, InterestingWhat did that marching band competition in ATL with a football game as a sideshow get ya?

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[Nor Eastern]

1,340,000 million more viewers, more money and a trophy that matters to the school, players, and fans.

[dewey]

There are problems in Fargo.

Dak (@DHolgard) Tweeted:
@NDSUfootball problem of the day: the shelf holding the natty champ trophies couldn’t handle the weight of all 7 🤷🏼*♀️🤘🏽 https://t.co/0yYkcHRRdk https://twitter.com/DHolgard/status/1083084820572528641?s=17

Dewey

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[cx500d]

Thanks for posting the full speed clip. What I don't like is Ojoh talking trash after the play while Stick is on the ground. It's still a bit inconclusive due to the different angle from the slo mo capture but I can see why you have a problem with it. Again, I saw the same thing done to one of our WR's in the Davis game too. If it gets caught and is a penalty, you potentially hurt your team whether it's a conference game where the conference office can review it later and suspend you or just the shear yards of penalty in the Chipper. If that's the case, it will get addressed by the coaching staff and it won't be a fun conversation for him. I just hesitate to cast judgement quickly without considering all of the circumstances including the speed of the game and when the whistle blows. I'm sorry you think that's a bull**** excuse. I call it reality.

It's sort of like off-field troubles and why I don't hammer other teams for them. I've been around the game long enough to recognize that no single team is above these type of behaviors and they can happen to everyone...including EWU. Some are better than others and EWU is not known as a dirty team so like I said, if it's a legit concern it will be dealt with.

Keep in mind, I watched 60 minutes of football where PSU several times successfully chop blocked/went for the knees and knocked our leading pass rusher and a starting safety out of the game and in the case of the pass rusher, finished his career. Yet it in the end the two teams still met at midfield and hugged and neither coaching staff mentioned it. That suggests it's an unfortunate part of the game.
And then after he got done talking trash to #12, he starts talking trash to #64, and an ewu player separated them. The guy seems like a dick

[cx500d]

Most likely.

Personally don't like QBs that slide though because they are pussies. Seems like they get hurt more than not.

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FYP

[dewey]

Good news. The shelf holding the 7 FCS championship trophies has been fixed.

NDSU Athletics (@NDSUathletics) Tweeted:
Remember our seven close friends? They'll be at the @NDSUmbb game this Thursday, January 10 vs. Western Illinois for fans to take pictures with. Stop by the @culvers kid zone to see them in person! #RaiseTheBar https://t.co/ZCHAe1o0tj https://twitter.com/NDSUathletics/status/1083008580557651971?s=17



Dewey
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[POD Knows]

Good news. The shelf holding the 7 FCS championship trophies has been fixed.

NDSU Athletics (@NDSUathletics) Tweeted:
Remember our seven close friends? They'll be at the @NDSUmbb game this Thursday, January 10 vs. Western Illinois for fans to take pictures with. Stop by the @culvers kid zone to see them in person! #RaiseTheBar https://t.co/ZCHAe1o0tj https://twitter.com/NDSUathletics/status/1083008580557651971?s=17



Dewey
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Did that really happen or was it just some sort of shtick. It is pretty funny.

[AmsterBison]

What does winning 7 of 8 titles have to do with the validity of pointing out a cheap shot by an EWU defender? That seems like a poor attempt at deflecting the severity of the move. It’s not like Bison fans are wallowing around blaming refs for being wronged like some fans have been doing

Hahaha! I think that I can remember every horrible call against NDSU from the last 30 years. Take the 2010 EWU game - the completed bounce pass call was worse the bad fumble call. And the safety that the refs inexplicably marked at the five-yard line against Augutstana in 1989? Don't get me started.

Now, if they had called a 15-yarder on that first hit on Christion, I'd have had no problem with it, but upon rewatching a couple times, Taryn started to make a sharp cut and then changed it into a slide in the middle of it when our guy was already committed. But, yeah, if that had been Stick sliding and he got hit, I'd be putting on my rage face so I'm hardly neutral. :)

The stick that Jabril Cox put on Christion was awesome and legal though. And the Christion turned into a WR and sliding short of the first down? He barely got touched - and he wouldn't have got touched at all if he had just continued out of bounds which, at the time, made me wonder if he had a concussion or something from the Jabril hit.

[Redbird 4th & short]

I didn't realize that was him on that play. Must have learned how to tackle the same place as Rosebum. Cheap and dirty!

You never ever alligator role with someone's leg unless you are trying to injure them. There is no use for that in football.
agreed .. this was flat out intent to injure. Full speed doesnt 100% reveal that to be necessarily true like Kalm said initially. But slowing it down on this clip .. it is clear he very deliberately lifted his hips off the ground right after tackle, and then started to roll multiple times. Watch his hips CREATE new momentum into the rolls. That was a delilberate attempt to make it seem like his initial momentum that rolled him .. but it was not. Dude needs to be talked to very clearly about this .. it was deliberately dirty. Refs can't see that kind of stiff in real time ... so if coaches don't police their own teams, you don't get to complain when someone does it back to you. Not condoning revenge hits at all but "he did it first" justice becomes the norm. Players feel need to defend their teammates. It occurs in all sports.

Coaches MUST police this sh-t when refs dont catch it.

[kalm]

Hahaha! I think that I can remember every horrible call against NDSU from the last 30 years. Take the 2010 EWU game - the completed bounce pass call was worse the bad fumble call. And the safety that the refs inexplicably marked at the five-yard line against Augutstana in 1989? Don't get me started.

Now, if they had called a 15-yarder on that first hit on Christion, I'd have had no problem with it, but upon rewatching a couple times, Taryn started to make a sharp cut and then changed it into a slide in the middle of it when our guy was already committed. But, yeah, if that had been Stick sliding and he got hit, I'd be putting on my rage face so I'm hardly neutral. :)

The stick that Jabril Cox put on Christion was awesome and legal though. And the Christion turned into a WR and sliding short of the first down? He barely got touched - and he wouldn't have got touched at all if he had just continued out of bounds which, at the time, made me wonder if he had a concussion or something from the Jabril hit.

Thanks for your honesty regarding bias and this is kind of my point. Like I mentioned earlier, you can find this type of stuff in every game and if it's truly a bull**** move, it either gets flagged or a quality coaching staff will address it with the player. We saw a way worse example in the Davis game where it was a lift the leg up and twist the ankle deal that didn't get flagged either. But the player wasn't injured, we still won the game, and I didn't see nary a peep out of eagle fans regarding it.

I suppose pointing out a cheap shot is more legit than some of the attention whorishness constantly on display from fans of a team that has won 7 of 8 but it all adds up. Reasonable Bizon fans are aware of this too.

BTW, here was one of the shots from our local paper...

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49521045_10218136348463894_8985123595285954560_o.j pg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=6a5c092906693459b6ca59f7ccb52963&oe=5CCB7DE1

[kalm]

agreed .. this was flat out intent to injure. Full speed doesnt 100% reveal that to be necessarily true like Kalm said initially. But slowing it down on this clip .. it is clear he very deliberately lifted his hips off the ground right after tackle, and then started to roll multiple times. Watch his hips CREATE new momentum into the rolls. That was a delilberate attempt to make it seem like his initial momentum that rolled him .. but it was not. Dude needs to be talked to very clearly about this .. it was deliberately dirty. Refs can't see that kind of stiff in real time ... so if coaches don't police their own teams, you don't get to complain when someone does it back to you. Not condoning revenge hits at all but "he did it first" justice becomes the norm. Players feel need to defend their teammates. It occurs in all sports.

Coaches MUST police this sh-t when refs dont catch it.

agreed

[BisonBacker]

EaStOn StIcK iS nOt A pAyToN wInNeR


I didn't realize that was him on that play. Must have learned how to tackle the same place as Rosebum. Cheap and dirty!

You never ever alligator role with someone's leg unless you are trying to injure them. There is no use for that in football.

Bingo. It was a dirty play no matter how anyone wants to argue it. Karma man karma.

[BisonBacker]

Not sure why the first quote popped up in my previous post.

[TheKingpin28]

Not sure why the first quote popped up in my previous post.I was confused by this as well, but I'm glad it was quoted.

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[X-Factor]

Hahaha! I think that I can remember every horrible call against NDSU from the last 30 years. Take the 2010 EWU game - the completed bounce pass call was worse the bad fumble call. And the safety that the refs inexplicably marked at the five-yard line against Augutstana in 1989? Don't get me started.

Now, if they had called a 15-yarder on that first hit on Christion, I'd have had no problem with it, but upon rewatching a couple times, Taryn started to make a sharp cut and then changed it into a slide in the middle of it when our guy was already committed. But, yeah, if that had been Stick sliding and he got hit, I'd be putting on my rage face so I'm hardly neutral. :)

The stick that Jabril Cox put on Christion was awesome and legal though. And the Christion turned into a WR and sliding short of the first down? He barely got touched - and he wouldn't have got touched at all if he had just continued out of bounds which, at the time, made me wonder if he had a concussion or something from the Jabril hit.

LOL oh yeah I guess that is what makes football seem so real. Coaching and reffing calls go down as either legendary or infamous.

Would it be the same sport if they let gps tracking and computer guided sensors determine all of the on-field calls?