P5 Football

[JacksFan40]

All but 4 bowl games with G5 teams are done, Arizona, Independence, Military, and Fiesta Bowl left for G5. Military and Independence Bowls feature a G5 vs P5.
Now most remaining bowl games are P5 vs P5, so I figured we needed a P5 thread.
Minnesota taking it to Georgia Tech in Paul Johnson’s last game 13-3, and in scoring position in the Quick Lane Bowl.
Up after this is the Cheez-It Bowl between TCU and California.

[JacksFan40]

Gophers now up 20-3 in 3rd Quarter.

[JacksFan40]

Now 27-10 in 4th quarter.

[JayJ79]

always interesting to see all the players that end up suspended and/or academically ineligible for their team's bowl game.
and then there are those that choose to sit out because they don't want to risk injury or diminish their NFL draft prospects.

[Laker]

Gophers now up 20-3 in 3rd Quarter.

34-10 now. Gophers have looked good on both sides of the ball today. Johnson is a really good receiver. And when a Ibrahim gets over 200 yards rushing it gets one sided.

[bonarae]

Now a final. The Goofies win 34-10.

[JacksFan40]

PJ Fleck seems to have the Gophers buying into his system, could be a breakout team next year.

[TheKingpin28]

PJ Fleck seems to have the Gophers buying into his system, could be a breakout team next year.I hope he does. They might schedule NDSU again, NDSU can beat them at their own game, bring 20K to TCF, and NDSU can still get the best recruits in Minnesota who don't want due to not having the #SouthernSpeed that Row-The-Boat U desires for that useless spread offense.

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[tigonian02]

Cal vs TCU is a **** show. I’d say that a lot of the G5 bowl team would eat up either of these teams in their current state.

[JacksFan40]

Cal vs TCU is a **** show. I’d say that a lot of the G5 bowl team would eat up either of these teams in their current state.
On the plus side it’s not a blowout.

[JacksFan40]

After 9 total interceptions, TCU edges Cal in an OT thriller 10-7.
This game was hilariously bad, but at least it was not a blowout.

[Laker]

After 9 total interceptions, TCU edges Cal in an OT thriller 10-7.
This game was hilariously bad, but at least it was not a blowout.

I heard that it was the TCU SID who got run over by the ref on the INT return in OT. What the heck was he doing that far out on the field? He deserved the penalty and I hope he is sore tomorrow.

[Bisonoline]

Not every day you see a QB playing with drop foot. Freaking hilarious.

[TheValleyRaider]

Go Frogs :)

[JacksFan40]

Duke getting dominated right now in the Walk-On’s Independence Bowl against Temple.
Temple leads 20-7

[JacksFan40]

Duke getting dominated right now in the Walk-On’s Independence Bowl against Temple.
Temple leads 20-7
Scratch that Duke back in it, score long TD to make it 20-14.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Scratch that Duke back in it, score long TD to make it 20-14.

Russo definitely going toe-2-toe with Duke's Daniel Jones....

[JacksFan40]

Russo definitely going toe-2-toe with Duke's Daniel Jones....
Appears the ACC caliber talent of Duke is getting the best of Temple now.
Blue Devils up 42-27.

[JacksFan40]

Massive mess up by Temples punt unit, long snapper completely misses the punter and gives Duke perfect field position to put this game away.

[Laker]

Massive mess up by Temples punt unit, long snapper completely misses the punter and gives Duke perfect field position to put this game away.

Temple was wearing the ugliest uniforms that I've seen all year. Their official colors are cherry and white, but they were wearing black helmets, gray jerseys with red numbers and black pants. An announcer's nightmare. I just don't understand why teams wear gray jerseys.

[Laker]

Cheeseheads up 14-3 in the third over the Turnover Chain Gang. Badgers look more physical up front but didn't make Miami pay enough for three first half turnovers.

[JacksFan40]

Wisconsin dominates Miami 35-3 in the Pinstripe Bowl. For reference on how disappointing both teams seasons were, they played last year in the Orange Bowl.

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Up next the exciting battle of 6-6 teams between Vanderbilt and Baylor in the Texas Bowl.

[JacksFan40]

Vandy up 7-3 on Baylor in the Texas Bowl.

[Bisonoline]

Cheeseheads up 14-3 in the third over the Turnover Chain Gang. Badgers look more physical up front but didn't make Miami pay enough for three first half turnovers.

Those turn over chain-belts-shingles or whatever has got to be the most stupid **** Ive ever seen.

[Laker]

Those turn over chain-belts-shingles or whatever has got to be the most stupid **** Ive ever seen.

I love it when teams like that get beat. I guess back in my day when you had to go both ways you saved your energy for playing.

[JacksFan40]

Last nights slate ended in a thriller with Baylor surviving a shootout with Vanderbilt in the Texas Bowl, 45-38.
Rhule has done a great job turning Baylor around.
Tonight’s slate starts out with a decent matchup in the Music City Bowl between Auburn and Purdue. After them we get into the Top 25 matchups starting in the Camping World Bowl between #16 West Virginia and #20 Syracuse. And the night game between #24 Iowa State and #13 Washington State in the Alamo Bowl.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Auburn is leading Purdue 56-7 at half!

Goooood Lawd....

[JacksFan40]

Auburn beat Purdue 63-14, most points in a bowl game ever by an SEC team.
Syracuse and West Virginia playing in the Camping World Bowl, West Virginia has the lead 9-7 in 2nd Quarter.

[JacksFan40]

Syracuse beating down on West Virginia 34-18 in the 4th Quarter.

[Laker]

Dumbazz taunting penalty on Wazzu's d-back on a pick six wipes out a touchdown. He gets bailed out by a 3rd & 12 TD pass.

When will these idiots ever learn?

[Bisonoline]

Dumbazz taunting penalty on Wazzu's d-back on a pick six wipes out a touchdown. He gets bailed out by a 3rd & 12 TD pass.

When will these idiots ever learn?

They wont. Its the rules fault. JFC

[Laker]

They wont. Its the rules fault. JFC

I posted it on Twitter. Three people agreed with me. Ten agreed with the guy who said it wasn't taunting. They never learned how to read the rule book. Or maybe just never learned to read.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Syracuse rolled over West Virginia 34-18. The Orange have the potential to make a run next year towards a playoff berth if they can replace Dungey at QB imo. Babers has things rolling in CNY....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Iowa State-Washington State Alamo Bowl has been really good! Two quality teams playing with a lot of passion!!

[Laker]

Too bad that ISU's QB couldn't see Butler wide open in the end zone on that two point play. 4:02 and no time outs will be tough to get the ball back but I hope that they can get a stop

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Bowl games in general continue to be hot garbage...

Florida 41 Michigan 15 late 4th quarter. Michigan looks absolutely pathetic again. Mullen's guys were 100% more ready...
UVA 28 South Carolina 0 late 4th quarter. Cavaliers have completely dominated

Up next, #2 Clemson vs #3 Notre Dame...Go Irish!! Been a ND fan since birth!!

[bonarae]

Florida 41 Michigan 15 late 4th quarter. Michigan looks absolutely pathetic again. Mullen's guys were 100% more ready...

Is it safe to say that Harbaugh is not a good college HC in general? xchinscratchx

His last bowl win was at Stanford I think...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Clemson up 23-3 at the half...ugh

What could go wrong for ND has gone wrong. Credit Clemson for hitting on 3 big plays but every bounce/break has gone there way. The fumbled kickoff that was an inch away from ND having 1st down at the Clemson 12 to the tipped TD pass before half and injuries on D have been brutal.

[Laker]

Is it safe to say that Harbaugh is not a good college HC in general? xchinscratchx

His last bowl win was at Stanford I think...

Well, Michigan hasn't looked this bad since............well, their last game against Ohio State.

[JacksFan40]

Notre Dame getting *****stomped by Clemson 30-3. It’s a joke they got in over Ohio State or Georgia.

[Bisonoline]

Notre Dame getting *****stomped by Clemson 30-3. It’s a joke they got in over Ohio State or Georgia.

Who was the talking head who bitched all week about the spread being 11 points? Kept saying that is was total disrepect and the domers were going to come out with LAZER like focus. xlolx

Found it---

Jessie Palmer thats who. He really looks like an idiot now.

[POD Knows]

Notre Dame sucks. They should never ever be allowed in this format again. When are these guys going to learn but I get the ghost of Rockne and the Vatican run this stuff.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Notre Dame getting *****stomped by Clemson 30-3. It’s a joke they got in over Ohio State or Georgia.

Ohio State lost 49-20 to a middling Purdue team. They weren't going to fair all that much better. Haskins would have been worth more points. I don't think OSU's defense is as good as ND's though.

FCS has 1 program at an elite level, FBS has 2. Georgia is a tweener. They have a choking issue though...

[Laker]

The way this is going, the Clemson- ND game will look like a squeaker. 21-0 already and the Sooners can't move the ball. ZERO YARDS!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvoBgZeXcAIWtm9.jpg

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Alabama is up 21-0 and the 1st quarter isn't over. This one might break records set by Houston and Auburn this year.

I have never seen a year filled with such uncompetitive bowl games. These games are terrible!!

[POD Knows]

Ohio State lost 49-20 to a middling Purdue team. They weren't going to fair all that much better. Haskins would have been worth more points. I don't think OSU's defense is as good as ND's though.

FCS has 1 program at an elite level, FBS has 2. Georgia is a tweener. They have a choking issue though...
And Alabama is bitch slapping OU.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Alabama just scored again...28-0 13:01 2Q

Overall, the college football playoff has been a disaster. The vast majority of the semifinal games have been complete mismatches...

2014
Ohio State 42 Alabama 35
Oregon 59 Florida State 20

2015
Clemson 37 Oklahoma 17
Alabama 38 Michigan State 0

2016
Alabama 24 Washington 7
Clemson 31 Ohio State 0

2017
Alabama 24 Clemson 6
Georgia 54 Oklahoma 48 2/OT

2018
Clemson 30 Notre Dame 3

[dgtw]

For citdog

https://twitter.com/CitadelFootball/status/1079194553331187713?s=20


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Oklahoma trying to make it interesting...

'Bama 31-20 3:03 3Q

[POD Knows]

Lots of fat chicks on the Alabama cheer squad. Expected more from these P5 teams.

[Bisonoline]

Lots of fat chicks on the Alabama cheer squad. Expected more from these P5 teams.

Were they pregnant?

[JacksFan40]

If we needed anymore proof Notre Dame was overrated, their lone good win over Michigan looks terrible now, they got throttled by Ohio State and destroyed by a decent Florida team in the Peach Bowl.

[PaladinFan]

If we needed anymore proof Notre Dame was overrated, their lone good win over Michigan looks terrible now, they got throttled by Ohio State and destroyed by a decent Florida team in the Peach Bowl.

There are two teams that can stay on the field with Alabama: Clemson and Georgia.

[dgtw]

Alabama just scored again...28-0 13:01 2Q

Overall, the college football playoff has been a disaster. The vast majority of the semifinal games have been complete mismatches...

2014
Ohio State 42 Alabama 35
Oregon 59 Florida State 20

2015
Clemson 37 Oklahoma 17
Alabama 38 Michigan State 0

2016
Alabama 24 Washington 7
Clemson 31 Ohio State 0

2017
Alabama 24 Clemson 6
Georgia 54 Oklahoma 48 2/OT

2018
Clemson 30 Notre Dame 3

Bama wins by eleven while taking a knee on the Oklahoma goal line to end the game. So out of ten playoff games, only two have been close. I am defining close as a one score game. Two shutouts (while losing by 30+) and three other games where the loser didn’t score more than a touchdown.


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[Hammerhead]

Does that mean 4 teams is too many and we should go back to the BCS Bowl with #1 vs. #2?

Still not sure if I want UCF to win so they can "claim" another title or get throttled so the G5 realizes no G5 team will never be in the FBS playoffs.



Alabama just scored again...28-0 13:01 2Q

Overall, the college football playoff has been a disaster. The vast majority of the semifinal games have been complete mismatches...

2014
Ohio State 42 Alabama 35
Oregon 59 Florida State 20

2015
Clemson 37 Oklahoma 17
Alabama 38 Michigan State 0

2016
Alabama 24 Washington 7
Clemson 31 Ohio State 0

2017
Alabama 24 Clemson 6
Georgia 54 Oklahoma 48 2/OT

2018
Clemson 30 Notre Dame 3

[POD Knows]

Bama wins by eleven while taking a knee on the Oklahoma goal line to end the game. So out of ten playoff games, only two have been close. I am defining close as a one score game. Two shutouts (while losing by 30+) and three other games where the loser didn’t score more than a touchdown.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAlabama was really sloppy in this game last night as well, it felt like they could have beat the Sooners by 50.

[dgtw]

Alabama was really sloppy in this game last night as well, it felt like they could have beat the Sooners by 50.

They had the ball third and inches and got too straight false starts and it snowballed from there. Oklahoma had to kickoff from the ten and Bama’s return guy calls for a fair catch on the 20 with plenty of green in front of him.


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[POD Knows]

They had the ball third and inches and got too straight false starts and it snowballed from there. Oklahoma had to kickoff from the ten and Bama’s return guy calls for a fair catch on the 20 with plenty of green in front of him.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat fair catch might have been one of the dumbest football plays I have ever seen and that series with third and inches was like a Three Stooges skit.

The Sooners showed a lot of heart staying in the game but Alabama seemed like they were sleep walking after they got the big lead.

[PaladinFan]

Does that mean 4 teams is too many and we should go back to the BCS Bowl with #1 vs. #2?

Still not sure if I want UCF to win so they can "claim" another title or get throttled so the G5 realizes no G5 team will never be in the FBS playoffs.

The downside of the playoff, as far as I can tell, is that it protects the best team in the country.

Alabama might lose one time in a season. They sure enough aren't losing twice.

[Bisonoline]

If we needed anymore proof Notre Dame was overrated, their lone good win over Michigan looks terrible now, they got throttled by Ohio State and destroyed by a decent Florida team in the Peach Bowl.

Jessie palmer eating a lot of crow.

[walliver]

Lots of fat chicks on the Alabama cheer squad. Expected more from these P5 teams.

If your daddy is rich enough, you don't have to be thin.

[JacksFan40]

Finally a good bowl game today. Cincinnati wins a thriller over Virgina Tech 35-31 in Military Bowl. This is Virgina Tech’s first losing season since 1992.

[Laker]

Pitt and Michigan State seemed to dominate but didn't put their games away and got beat. OK State upset Mizzou in a shoothout.

[CID1990]

Bowl games in general continue to be hot garbage...

Florida 41 Michigan 15 late 4th quarter. Michigan looks absolutely pathetic again. Mullen's guys were 100% more ready...
UVA 28 South Carolina 0 late 4th quarter. Cavaliers have completely dominated

Up next, #2 Clemson vs #3 Notre Dame...Go Irish!! Been a ND fan since birth!!

if ND played an actual ACC schedule they never would have been in this to begin with because they already would have lost to clempson (and at least one other ACC team)

ND needs to either be fully in the ACC or GTFO


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

if ND played an actual ACC schedule they never would have been in this to begin with because they already would have lost to clempson (and at least one other ACC team)

ND needs to either be fully in the ACC or GTFO


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ACC conference schedules are unbalanced so there's no certainty they would have faced Clemson in the regular season. They did beat the second best team in the ACC Syracuse 36-3. Outside of those two the ACC was pretty damn week. NC State was the only other team in the league with more than 8 wins. ND easily could have went through the ACC with 1 loss to Clemson or undefeated.

Notre Dame is at Georgia September 21st. The media will have fun with the on during the lead up.

[JayJ79]

Artificial noisemakers (like cowbells) shouldn't be allowed in the crowd.
or if they are, they should be subject to the same rules as bands playing and/or music over the PA system.

[JacksFan40]

Iowa knocked of Mississippi State 27-22 in Outback Bowl today.
Kentucky dominating Penn State 27-7 in Citrus Bowl.
UCF struggling with LSU in Fiesta Bowl 34-21.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Kentucky hangs on to beat PSU 27-24...Snell is a beast

LSU outlasts UCF 40-32. UCF struggled with LSU's front 7 but overall played well. No shame in the loss imo....

The SEC has been awesome in the more meaningful bowl games.

[ngineer]

Kentucky hangs on to beat PSU 27-24...Snell is a beast

LSU outlasts UCF 40-32. UCF struggled with LSU's front 7 but overall played well. No shame in the loss imo....

The SEC has been awesome in the more meaningful bowl games.

Penn State couldn't get out of their own way in the first half. Did not appear focused until it was too late.Kentucky, though, has some top notch players on defense, and I agree Snell is a beast. I can see a lot of NFL teams wanting him for short yardage situations.

[JacksFan40]

Kentucky hangs on to beat PSU 27-24...Snell is a beast

LSU outlasts UCF 40-32. UCF struggled with LSU's front 7 but overall played well. No shame in the loss imo....

The SEC has been awesome in the more meaningful bowl games.
I wonder if having McKenzie Milton would’ve pushed UCF past LSU? Well it officially ends the whole “UCF is national champions” discussion. They’re still better then Notre Dame.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Ohio State is having little trouble with Washington through the first 30 minutes.

[Laker]

A sad day for college football- and for humanity.

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Terrible news out of Purdue, Tyler Trent has passed away:

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Georgia's minds are clearly still somewhere in Atlanta. Terrible start in the Sugar Bowl...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

A sad day for college football- and for humanity.

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Terrible news out of Purdue, Tyler Trent has passed away:


I always find the time of things like this interesting. He made it through the holidays and to a new year. When I saw him during the Purdue-OSU game I wasn't sure he'd make it to the end of October. Cancer sucks!

[Laker]

I always find the time of things like this interesting. He made it through the holidays and to a new year. When I saw him during the Purdue-OSU game I wasn't sure he'd make it to the end of October. Cancer sucks!

My Dad died on Jan 1, 2006 after a three year bout with leukemia. Yes, he wanted to make it to the New Year and did. Always something special about New Year's games to me.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Texas 20 Georgia 7 at half

I'm surprised...

[Laker]

Georgia needs to shape up in the second half or I don't want to hear one more word about how they should have been in the playoffs. They can't tackle the QB, they are getting outhit, and they don't look like they want to be there. And Bevo tried to hook UGA before the game. You would think that they would have something to prove.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Texas is completely dominating Georgia. Texas is destroying them upfront like LSU did. The Bulldogs can shut up about being left out of the playoff. Talk about a team with little pride or heart.

It's Alabama and Clemson and everyone else. It's not close...

[JacksFan40]

Texas is completely dominating Georgia. Texas is destroying them upfront like LSU did. The Bulldogs can shut up about being left out of the playoff. Talk about a team with little pride or heart.

It's Alabama and Clemson and everyone else. It's not close...
It’s Alabama and everyone else. Clemson is great but they nearly and probably should’ve lost to A&M if not for a questionable call. And Alabama trashed A&M. I expect the title game to be like when Bama and Clemson played last year.

[Laker]

Texas 28 Georgia 21 and it didn't seem that close.

[JacksFan40]

Texas 28 Georgia 21 and it didn't seem that close.
Texas took cheap shots and the end on Georgia’s QB and no Georgia players stood up for him. They were beaten physically and mentally by a Texas team that wanted to be there, Georgia was still thinking about missing the playoffs.

[CID1990]

ACC conference schedules are unbalanced so there's no certainty they would have faced Clemson in the regular season. They did beat the second best team in the ACC Syracuse 36-3. Outside of those two the ACC was pretty damn week. NC State was the only other team in the league with more than 8 wins. ND easily could have went through the ACC with 1 loss to Clemson or undefeated.

Notre Dame is at Georgia September 21st. The media will have fun with the on during the lead up.

If Clemson and ND are the top two teams in the ACC then they absolutely would meet - in the ACC championship game

And if either of them were not playing in the championship game then whether they would be in the playoffs would be moot.

Again - if ND played a regular ACC schedule then they would not have been in the playoffs.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

If Clemson and ND are the top two teams in the ACC then they absolutely would meet - in the ACC championship game

And if either of them were not playing in the championship game then whether they would be in the playoffs would be moot.

Again - if ND played a regular ACC schedule then they would not have been in the playoffs.

True about the ACC championship.

They're better with their current setup. The ACC simply isn't good enough to go all in on. Being able to play a rotating slate with Clemson, FSU, Syracuse and Virginia Tech while scheduling games with Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, Stanford, USC, Michigan State etc. is far better.

If anyone should move it's Clemson to the SEC. They're so much better than everyone in the ACC it's comical.

[JacksFan40]

True about the ACC championship.

They're better with their current setup. The ACC simply isn't good enough to go all in on. Being able to play a rotating slate with Clemson, FSU, Syracuse and Virginia Tech while scheduling games with Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, Stanford, USC, Michigan State etc. is far better.

If anyone should move it's Clemson to the SEC. They're so much better than everyone in the ACC it's comical.
The only ACC team capable of matching them is Florida State and they’re terrible now.
Watch our for Syracuse though, I like what Dino Barbers is doing there.

[PaladinFan]

Texas took cheap shots and the end on Georgia’s QB and no Georgia players stood up for him. They were beaten physically and mentally by a Texas team that wanted to be there, Georgia was still thinking about missing the playoffs.

Probably true. Was a physical and strong effort by Texas. As sometimes happens in bowl games, one team certainly looks more invested in the outcome than the other.

[Laker]

Interesting story about how the Virginia crossed swords and the Virginia Tech VT symbols came about.


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[JSUSoutherner]

Texas 28 Georgia 21 and it didn't seem that close.

I'm glad they got their ass kicked so I don't have to listen to the bulldog fans whine about being snubbed for Oklahoma for another 12 months.

[Laker]

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Report: Greg Schiano out as Ohio State's defensive coordinator:

[Laker]

Clemson up 7-0 after a pick 6.

[Laker]

62 yard bomb by Bama. 7 up after 3 minutes of play.

[Laker]

Clemson counters with their own 62 yard pass- Etienne then scores on a nice 17 yard run. 14-7.

[Laker]

Bama uses slants and punishing runs, scores on a pass from a half a yard away.


Missed PAT- 14-13.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Helluva start for both teams!

[Laker]

Lock this guy up and throw away the key. What a piece of trash. Threatens to kill Tyler Trent's family.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2019/01/07/florida-man-john-matthew-pinkham-arrested-threats-tyler-trents-family/2508738002/

[Laker]

Bama hits a field goal- goes up 16-14.

[Laker]

Etienne scores on the ground- Clemson up 21-16.

[Laker]

Clemson with another pick!

[Laker]

Renfrow makes a catch in 43 straight games.

[Laker]

Etienne scores his third TD of the night. Clemson up 28-16.

[Laker]

Clemson makes a field goal, go up 31-15 with 45 seconds to go in the half.

Did you know that the Goodyear Blimp was named as an honorary member of the Hall of Fame?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Awesome first half by Clemson! They dominated on both sides of the ball!!

[Laker]

Awesome first half by Clemson! They dominated on both sides of the ball!!

Saban will probably put in Hurts for Tua and he'll throw for 400 yards.

But I hope not.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Saban will probably put in Hurts for Tua and he'll throw for 400 yards.

But I hope not.

Tua looks to be battling through injury again. Clemson gets the ball to start the 2nd half...

[Laker]

Bama fakes a field goal on 4th and 6. The run had no chance.

[Laker]

74 yard pass play on 3rd & long as Clemson scores again. Now Clemson is up 37-16 after the PAT hits the upright and comes out.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Bama fakes a field goal on 4th and 6. The run had no chance.

That was brutal!! Terrible design! I screwed up and thought Clemson got the 2nd half ko...

'Bama driving now again. They need a TD or it's likely curtains...

[Laker]

Clemson stops Tua short on 4th down in the red zone.

[Laker]

These Clemson receivers have been making one incredible catch after another. Now up 44-16 and the third quarter isn't over yet.

[Laker]

Clemson stops Tua on 4th down after a first and goal- the Tiger defense has been awesome.

[Laker]

Well, Saban finally pulled the trigger and put in Hurts.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Alabama OL is getting destroyed!!

[Professor Chaos]

So since I kept hearing the counter-argument to CFP expansion the last 9 days being the lopsided semifinal scores does this lopsided championship score mean they should just go back to voting for the national championship?

[JacksFan40]

Maybe Notre Dame wasn’t actually that bad, Clemson is just this freaking good.

[Laker]

Maybe Notre Dame wasn’t actually that bad, Clemson is just this freaking good.

If someone had told me that the score would be 44-16 I would have bet Bama was the 44. Amazing play on both sides of the ball by the Tigers. Physical domination.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Maybe Notre Dame wasn’t actually that bad, Clemson is just this freaking good.

Indeed! ND's defense played WAY better all things considered!!

Why does Oklahoma always get a pass? They've been terrible in title game/playoff games since 2000.

[JSUSoutherner]

BAMA SUCKS!

AHAHAHAHA!

[TheKingpin28]

44-16. Damn, I knew Trevor was good, but he might be the best QB I have ever seen play football at the college level in my lifetime. This kid is on a different level and that includes the freak of nature known as Tebow. If he can shred Alabama apart like this and make them look silly on defense, I don't see a team stopping him at this level of football. Just give him a defense that can hold their opponents under 30 points and I believe he will take care of the rest. There is no way this kid is 19. Hats off to the Tigers for dominating the game in all facets of the game.

[TheKingpin28]

If I am an NFL GM, I am stocking up on 2021 draft picks after this performance.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

If I am an NFL GM, I am stocking up on 2021 draft picks after this performance.

Pats should give Brady one more year then tell him to take a hike (contract is up) if wants to keep playing so they can tank for Trevor in 2021. The timing would be perfect....

Colts Manning to Luck
Pats Brady to Lawrence

[TheKingpin28]

Pats should give Brady one more year then tell him to take a hike (contract is up) if wants to keep playing so they can tank for Trevor in 2021. The timing would be perfect....

Colts Manning to Luck
Pats Brady to Lawrence

I wouldn't be surprised if the following teams are looking at Trevor: Every team not named the Kansas City Chiefs. xlolx

In all seriousness though, I wonder if the NFL will try and alter the draft process for the #1 pick just to ensure the product in the NFL does not drop off drastically in 2020 just so teams can try and tank to get him. No team will trade from #1 unless they get another Herschel Walker type of offer and even then, this type of kid comes around 1x in a generation if not less, so I don't know if any team would risk losing him to another team and knowing you have to live with the fact you "traded away Trevor". If I am Goodell, I am already figuring out a plan to sit down with the owners and make it clear that any sort of tanking will be taken as collusion and therefore will be met with severe penalties/forfeited draft picks. 2020 could be some of the worst football seen in the NFL in a long time just for the prospect of getting the franchise player who can make a bad/OK team an immediate playoff contender.

[TheKingpin28]

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[POD Knows]

44-16. Damn, I knew Trevor was good, but he might be the best QB I have ever seen play football at the college level in my lifetime. This kid is on a different level and that includes the freak of nature known as Tebow. If he can shred Alabama apart like this and make them look silly on defense, I don't see a team stopping him at this level of football. Just give him a defense that can hold their opponents under 30 points and I believe he will take care of the rest. There is no way this kid is 19. Hats off to the Tigers for dominating the game in all facets of the game.He is good but he had receivers making catches that were out of this world.

[Reign of Terrier]

I wouldn't be surprised if the following teams are looking at Trevor: Every team not named the Kansas City Chiefs. xlolx

In all seriousness though, I wonder if the NFL will try and alter the draft process for the #1 pick just to ensure the product in the NFL does not drop off drastically in 2020 just so teams can try and tank to get him. No team will trade from #1 unless they get another Herschel Walker type of offer and even then, this type of kid comes around 1x in a generation if not less, so I don't know if any team would risk losing him to another team and knowing you have to live with the fact you "traded away Trevor". If I am Goodell, I am already figuring out a plan to sit down with the owners and make it clear that any sort of tanking will be taken as collusion and therefore will be met with severe penalties/forfeited draft picks. 2020 could be some of the worst football seen in the NFL in a long time just for the prospect of getting the franchise player who can make a bad/OK team an immediate playoff contender.

FWIW this sounds like a total patriots move.

One thing you guys have to understand though, as someone who lives in South Carolina, I hate Clemson worse than Bama. Like, I don't even dislike Bama. On one level, I get tired of their constant success but it's not to the point of being uninteresting. Like, with NDSU, I just get tired that they win a lot. I don't dislike them; I feel like I'm post-hating them.

But with Clemson? **** those guys. It has nothing to do with being a graduate of SC. Their coach is kind of classy and their team is really good. But their fans are so so so obnoxious. It's very hard to describe to someone outside of SC.

[Laker]

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As long as Drake doesn't become a Clemson fan. That would be the kiss of death.

[POD Knows]

FWIW this sounds like a total patriots move.

One thing you guys have to understand though, as someone who lives in South Carolina, I hate Clemson worse than Bama. Like, I don't even dislike Bama. On one level, I get tired of their constant success but it's not to the point of being uninteresting. Like, with NDSU, I just get tired that they win a lot. I don't dislike them; I feel like I'm post-hating them.

But with Clemson? **** those guys. It has nothing to do with being a graduate of SC. Their coach is kind of classy and their team is really good. But their fans are so so so obnoxious. It's very hard to describe to someone outside of SC.Hey, we deal with ass hat obnoxious Gopher fans, at least Clemson wins something once in a while.

[Reign of Terrier]

Hey, we deal with ass hat obnoxious Gopher fans, at least Clemson wins something once in a while.

Okay, but here's the thing: until about 6 or so years ago Clemson and the Gophers were on even footing. Now imagine if they started winning. That's what I'm going through lol

[Laker]

Okay, but here's the thing: until about 6 or so years ago Clemson and the Gophers were on even footing. Now imagine if they started winning. That's what I'm going through lol


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The only Big Ten team to ever beat Clemson in football is the 1985 Golden #Gophers (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Gophers?src=hash) in the Independence Bowl!! (h/t @SamRichter (https://twitter.com/SamRichter)) Gopher great and fan favorite @RFoggie (https://twitter.com/RFoggie) was named MVP after going 9-of-12 for 123 yards and 60 yards rushing on 18 carries.

[POD Knows]

Okay, but here's the thing: until about 6 or so years ago Clemson and the Gophers were on even footing. Now imagine if they started winning. That's what I'm going through lolOk, yea, it would be brutal, the Gophers won a bowl game this year, that was bad enough.

[TheKingpin28]

He is good but he had receivers making catches that were out of this world.

But to be able to make some of those throws, that is just a equal as some of those catches. Not a Vikings fan, but could you imagine him throwing to Diggs and Thielen?

[POD Knows]

But to be able to make some of those throws, that is just a equal as some of those catches. Not a Vikings fan, but could you imagine him throwing to Diggs and Thielen?No, because their OC would just screw it up. It is pretty hard to believe the kid is a true freshman, he showed no fear whatsoever. Both these teams are going to be REALLY good next year, holy crap.

[JSUSoutherner]

FWIW this sounds like a total patriots move.

One thing you guys have to understand though, as someone who lives in South Carolina, I hate Clemson worse than Bama. Like, I don't even dislike Bama. On one level, I get tired of their constant success but it's not to the point of being uninteresting. Like, with NDSU, I just get tired that they win a lot. I don't dislike them; I feel like I'm post-hating them.

But with Clemson? **** those guys. It has nothing to do with being a graduate of SC. Their coach is kind of classy and their team is really good. But their fans are so so so obnoxious. It's very hard to describe to someone outside of SC.

I was in a bar last night during the game. I was with a couple of buddies. I clapped at the first pick 6 and I thought I was about to get mugged for it.

At least Clemson hasn't been running your state for decades.

[Reign of Terrier]

I was in a bar last night during the game. I was with a couple of buddies. I clapped at the first pick 6 and I thought I was about to get mugged for it.

At least Clemson hasn't been running your state for decades.

I mean...it kind of has? USC has never been spectacular. From 1980-2015 Clemson was the only team of Clemson/SC to have a national title and they had more wins in the rivalry and no one cares about non-FBS teams (that includes not caring about CCU) so Clemson had more bragging rights.

If Clemson didn't play in the ACC they wouldn't have their last two national championships. Like NDSU, Clemson can recruit/promise to compete for a conference/national title every year and even most of the teams in the SEC can't promise that. They've supplainted the 2000s Ohio State teams has the Saddam Hussein of College Football.

[JSUSoutherner]

I mean...it kind of has? USC has never been spectacular. From 1980-2015 Clemson was the only team of Clemson/SC to have a national title and they had more wins in the rivalry and no one cares about non-FBS teams (that includes not caring about CCU) so Clemson had more bragging rights.

If Clemson didn't play in the ACC they wouldn't have their last two national championships. Like NDSU, Clemson can recruit/promise to compete for a conference/national title every year and even most of the teams in the SEC can't promise that. They've supplainted the 2000s Ohio State teams has the Saddam Hussein of College Football.

There is no "kinda" with UAT.

When Clemson starts trying to shut down other Universities because they play football in the same state as them, come talk to me.

The UAT Board of Trustees has more power than the state legislature.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I try not to go homer but there's no ND favoritism. The Irish finished #5 in the AP Poll behind Ohio State and Oklahoma. ND's only loss was to the dominant national champs. Oklahoma had 2 freakin losses including being down 28-0 to 'Bama in a blink of an eye. At worst ND should have been #3 with a worst case #4 to OSU. Who lost by 28 to Purdue and escaped several other games including the Rose Bowl.

[JSUSoutherner]

I try not to go homer but there's no ND favoritism. The Irish finished #5 in the AP Poll behind Ohio State and Oklahoma. ND's only loss was to the dominant national champs. Oklahoma had 2 freakin losses including being down 28-0 to 'Bama in a blink of an eye. At worst ND should have been #3 with a worst case #4 to OSU. Who lost by 28 to Purdue and escaped several other games including the Rose Bowl.

SEC is overrated.

Clemson and Texas proved it.

The only good win for the SEC this bowl season was UF over Michigan and even Michigan got blown TF out by Ohio State.

[TheKingpin28]

No, because their OC would just screw it up. It is pretty hard to believe the kid is a true freshman, he showed no fear whatsoever. Both these teams are going to be REALLY good next year, holy crap.

Ok, then have McDaniels in New England do it, or whoever knows how to run an offense.

[Laker]

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[Laker]

Mizzou is on probation because tutor completed coursework.


Jan Ganglehoff, are you any relation? (For those of you who don't know, she brought down the house for Clem Haskins and the Gopher after the 1997 Final Four run for doing the same things).


https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/former-missouri-tutor-completed-coursework-12-student-athletes

[Laker]

Bama and Oklahoma have agreed to play each other- in 2032 and 2033.


In ‏other news, Zager & Evans have agreed to play at halftime of the 2525 matchup.

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Alabama & Oklahoma have agreed to play a home and home series in 2032 & 2033. BIG time news today for the 5 & 6 year olds who will be playing in those games.

[Laker]

Participation trophies? Although I think he means 65% of FBS teams rather than all.

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[FUBeAR]

Bama and Oklahoma have agreed to play each other- in 2032 and 2033.


In ‏other news, Zager & Evans have agreed to play at halftime of the 2525 matchup.

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Alabama & Oklahoma have agreed to play a home and home series in 2032 & 2033. BIG time news today for the 5 & 6 year olds who will be playing in those games.

LOL - I just now saw this post and thought you had ripped off my schtick from the SoCon Off-Season thread...


...and, unless I'm mistaken, a NEW Press Box was constructed shortly following the condemnation.

As far as I can tell, there is still no definite timetable to re-construct permanent seating on the east side of JHS. The most recent update I can find was announced in Sept. of 2018...



...to me "at least" in those sentences means it could be 2021 or 2025 or...even 9595...and y'all know what Coaches Zager and Evans said about the year 9595...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic

Then I saw that you posted 2 weeks before I did.

As they say, 'demented minds think alike'...they say something like that...I think.

[Laker]

LOL - I just now saw this post and thought you had ripped off my schtick from the SoCon Off-Season thread...



Then I saw that you posted 2 weeks before I did.

As they say, 'demented minds think alike'...they say something like that...I think.

LOL. Yes, I have been accused of many things over the years. Usually I just laugh!

[Laker]

Not P5, but FBS.

Very interesting article on how Boise State has the trademark for any field color other than green (besides the end zones).


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/sports/ncaafootball/boise-state-mounts-a-paper-defense-of-its-home-turf.html

[bonarae]

First in-season update:

Fire Harbaugh? Import an NFL coach? What is next in Ann Arbor? Charles Woodson has had enough of Jim Harbaugh and his current crop of Wolverines. xsmhx

https://deadspin.com/charles-woodson-has-had-enough-of-the-michigan-wolverin-1838319461

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Notre Dame bounced back with a really solid 35-20 win over Virginia.

Ohio State and Auburn are looking scary good tonight. Clemson shouldn't be #1 come tomorrow. Needed to stop a 2 pt conversion to beat UNC....

[CHIP72]

Rutgers has fired head coach Chris Ash and offensive coordinator John McNulty; tight ends coach Nunzio Campanile, a successful, former high school head coach in New Jersey, will take over as interim head coach for the remainder of the season. Ash posted an 8-32 record in 3+ seasons leading the Scarlet Knights. He's still owed nearly $8.5 million on his contract.

[Laker]

Kansas State athletics is one of eight schools that doesn't get money from it's host institution. I wonder who the other eight are?

https://www.kstatecollegian.com/2019/10/10/k-state-athletics-to-remain-self-sustaining/

[JayJ79]

was watching the Purdue/Iowa game, and at times Purdue was using a giant picture of Tony the Tiger from the Frosted Flakes cereal box as one of their signals.
Made me wonder if schools have to arrange licensing clearance to use trademark images in that fashion. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if the cereal company paid the school to use their logo as product placement. ha.

Also from that game, apparently according to Big Ten officials, a defensive lineman can headbutt the center to get him to false start.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Atmosphere in Happy Valley tonight is incredible!! Don't like PSU at all but damn their games off sick! Closest thing to SEC football you'll find in the North.....

[bonarae]

Harbaugh out at the end of the season as an exit strategy? Has Michigan become the FBS version of a suddenly struggling pro franchise (read: Marlins, Raiders, etc.)?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/jim-harbaugh-calls-rumors-of-possible-exit-strategy-from-michigan-total-crap/

[bonarae]

OTOH, Florida AD is desperate for H&H with fellow P5s...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/florida-ad-crowdsources-twitter-in-search-of-future-power-five-home-and-home-opponents-for-gators/

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Kansas State takes down #5 Oklahoma in the "Little Apple"!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LSU goes into Tuscaloosa and beats Alabama 46-41!

[bonarae]

Have there been any firings in the P5 so far? Chad Morris should be canned at the end of the season.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/heat-cranking-up-on-chad-morris-after-arkansas-gets-blown-out-at-home-by-western-kentucky/

[bonarae]

A streak may finally end on Saturday in Notre Dame...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/notre-dames-273-game-home-sellout-streak-will-end-against-navy-on-saturday/

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The Egg Bowl just had one of the most ridiculous endings i've ever seen.

- Ole Miss completes a hail mary on 4th and Biloxi to extend the game.
- Ole Miss scores a TD with 4 seconds left to cut the deficit to 21-20, the player who scored gets down on all 4s like a dog, lifts his leg like he's pissing on the MSU logo. As result there's a 15 yard penalty on the XP. As fate would have it the Rebels kicker missed the lengthy xp....

Chip, were you at this one?!?!

[Laker]

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[Bisonoline]

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What a ****ing idiot. Cost his team the game. How stupid does one have to be??????

[Laker]

The headlines are entertaining:

Piss and Miss

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKgulMFXkAAa3pM?format=jpg&name=240x240

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The headlines are entertaining:

Piss and Miss

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKgulMFXkAAa3pM?format=jpg&name=240x240

He'll never live down this night. What a circus! The Egg Bowl is usually pretty wild no matter the records. Almost never disappoints in terms of entertainment!

[Laker]

He'll never live down this night. What a circus! The Egg Bowl is usually pretty wild no matter the records. Almost never disappoints in terms of entertainment!

I think he was the same guy who signaled for the fair catch- AFTER he caught it.

Does he actually go to class?

[CHIP72]

The Egg Bowl just had one of the most ridiculous endings i've ever seen.

- Ole Miss completes a hail mary on 4th and Biloxi to extend the game.
- Ole Miss scores a TD with 4 seconds left to cut the deficit to 21-20, the player who scored gets down on all 4s like a dog, lifts his leg like he's pissing on the MSU logo. As result there's a 15 yard penalty on the XP. As fate would have it the Rebels kicker missed the lengthy xp....

Chip, were you at this one?!?!

Yes, I was at the Ole Piss and Miss Game. What a ridiculous ending. The funny thing is had the one Ole Miss player not left the bench after the missed extra point (along with about 3/4 of the Mississippi State team leaving their bench), the onsides kick would have been a non-trivial play had Ole Miss recovered; they could have tried a long field goal to win the game in that scenario.

If the Ole Miss receiver had not committed one of the more stupid penalties of all-time, and Ole Miss found a way to win the game, the game would probably have been remembered for the Rebels gaining 57 yards on a 4th and 24 play.

[CHIP72]

Incidentally, my brother is telling me the scuttlebutt is Joe Moorhead is on his way out at Mississippi State due to mutual dissatisfaction, but Moorhead might fight the Mississippi State brass on the terms of the separation. My brother said Moorhead gets $4 million if he's fired but $9 million if he's bought out.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Yes, I was at the Ole Piss and Miss Game. What a ridiculous ending. The funny thing is had the one Ole Miss player not left the bench after the missed extra point (along with about 3/4 of the Mississippi State team leaving their bench), the onsides kick would have been a non-trivial play had Ole Miss recovered; they could have tried a long field goal to win the game in that scenario.

Had the Ole Miss player not committed one of the more stupid penalties of all-time, and Ole Miss found a way to win the game, the game would probably have been remembered for the Rebels gaining 57 yards on a 4th and 24 play.

This is a game where it will never get old telling the story of being there live! Easily one of the most ridiculous rivalry game endings of all time! I'm not too familiar with the sports culture of Mississippi but if it's typical SEC fandom that Ole Miss player might want to go take a vacation to the U.P. of Michigan until the New Year.

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Incidentally, my brother is telling me the scuttlebutt is Joe Moorhead is on his way out at Mississippi State due to mutual dissatisfaction, but Moorhead might fight the Mississippi State brass on the terms of the separation. My brother said Moorhead gets $4 million if he's fired but $9 million if he's bought out.

wow! I wonder where he is headed? Back to the Bronx?!? xsmiley_wixxdrunkyx

Starkville always seemed like a weird landing spot for a lifelong Yankee.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Moorhead even referenced his Yankee roots in defiance!!

"To me it was an exclamation point on the narrative that I'm not the right man for this job or this team, or that I can't coach in this league," Moorhead said. "This is my school, my team, and this is my program. They'll have to drag my Yankee ass out of here."

[CHIP72]

Having attended three Egg Bowl games (two in Starkville, one in Oxford) and visited my brother at Mississippi State a half dozen times, I can tell you the Mississippi State/Mississippi rivalry is one of the most bitter in college football. Some proof of that extreme bitterness include:

*The phone escort service scandal that brought down former coach Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss was caused in part by Mississippi State über fan Steve Robertson, who discovered the pattern of improper phone calls while doing research on a book examining possible Ole Miss recruiting improprieties under Freeze. (It should be noted Ole Miss fans had disparaged Robertson for many years prior to Freeze scandal, calling him "Rose Bowl" after he predicted Mississippi State would play in the BCS championship game in Pasadena after the 2001 season; Mississippi State finished 3-8 that season.)

*After the 2016 Egg Bowl, when underdog Mississippi State curb stomped Ole Miss 55-20 in Oxford, some stores in Starkville had T-shirts commemorating the big win the very next day. The one I thought was most amusing was one showing Interstate Highway signs for "Interstate 55 Starkville, Interstate 20 Oxford". (That pun works in the case of Mississippi, because Interstates 20 and 55 both travel through Mississippi, intersecting in the Jackson area.)

*Mississippi State fans routinely refer to the University of Mississippi as "Ole Piss" and "that school up north". Ole Miss fans like to disparage Mississippi State's agricultural origins, its cowbell tradition, and the plainness of Starkville.

IMO, much of the bitterness in the rivalry derives from the fact Mississippi is a mostly rural state with a relatively small population (about 3 million); there are no major or even semi-major cities in Mississippi that could even be candidates for a major league pro sports team (unlike say Alabama, which has Birmingham, a city that has hosted teams in upstart "major" pro football leagues that challenged the NFL, including both the WFL in the 1970s and the USFL in the 1980s; Alabama also has over 50% more people than Mississippi). Mississippi's small population and the fact that it has TWO schools that could be considered the state's flagship school makes it hard a college program in the state to be successful at the national level, especially in football, the region's most popular sport and a sport people in Mississippi and the southeast U.S. in general take very, very seriously. Additionally, neither Starkville (Mississippi State) nor Oxford (Ole Miss) are particularly big towns, or at least the kind of towns one would associate with a state flagship university. To me personally, Starkville reminds me A LOT of Indiana, PA where IUP is located; in all honesty Indiana is probably a somewhat nicer town and feels ever so slightly bigger, but the two towns are very comparable in size. (Starkville feels and actually is way, WAY smaller than State College, where Penn State is located and my personal point of reference for a large college town.) Starkville's humble, unspectacular feel is the reason for its ironic nickname "Stark Vegas"; it is about as far from Las Vegas as a large, state flagship college town can be. I'm not as familiar with Oxford, but I know that although it is considered a nicer town than Starkville, it really isn't any larger than Mississippi State's hometown.

Steve Robertson (the Mississippi State fan I mentioned above) actually put it best when describing the Mississippi State/Ole Miss rivalry; he once said of the rivalry "It's the two runt puppies in the SEC West fighting for the hind teat. When you finally get locked on that hind teat, you do whatever you have to do to stay there, even if the other guy has to starve."

[Laker]

Even the Russians were laughing about this.

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1200262405969862656

[CHIP72]

I was thinking earlier today that Ole Miss wide receiver Elijah Moore was the goat of the game, but it is probably more appropriate to say he was the dog of the game.

[Lorne_Malvo]

And some people still dont believe in karma.

[Ivytalk]

Meanwhile, Virginia just ended a 15-year losing streak to Va Tech and won the Commonwealth Cup and a trip to the ACC championship game. A thrilling game from beginning to end. Go, ‘Hoos!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Meanwhile, Virginia just ended a 15-year losing streak to Va Tech and won the Commonwealth Cup and a trip to the ACC championship game. A thrilling game from beginning to end. Go, ‘Hoos!

Great to see UVA win! They've gotten close the last 4-5 years but couldn't get over the hump. Bronco has done a good job in Charlottesville. They've become a fringe Top 25 program under his watch.

I think you can win at a high-level at Virginia but the stars do need to align pretty well. Same goes for Georgia Tech.

[CHIP72]

Both Barry Odom at Missouri and Matt Luke at Ole Miss were fired over the weekend. In the case of Luke's firing, many Ole Miss players are upset by the decision; a handful of players walked out of the meeting where they were told Luke was let go. Also, the firing was announced when Luke, a former Ole Miss player and assistant coach, was in the middle of a meeting with a recruit.

[PAllen]

Both Barry Odom at Missouri and Matt Luke at Ole Miss were fired over the weekend. In the case of Luke's firing, many Ole Miss players are upset by the decision; a handful of players walked out of the meeting where they were told Luke was let go. Also, the firing was announced when Luke, a former Ole Miss player and assistant coach, was in the middle of a meeting with a recruit.

Did they crawl out on all fours and pee on the floor?

Seriously though, sounds like some really bad timing with the recruit.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Chris Peterson steps down at Washington. I wonder if he regrets leaving Boise State? Seems like the stress of coaching at place like U-Dub wore on him.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28212034/chris-petersen-steps-washington-jimmy-lake-named-head-coach

[PAllen]

Chris Peterson steps down at Washington. I wonder if he regrets leaving Boise State? Seems like the stress of coaching at like like U-Dub wore on him.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28212034/chris-petersen-steps-washington-jimmy-lake-named-head-coach

I'm guessing the money made up for it. Besides he could always go back to Boise State or a place like it the next time they have an opening.

[Laker]

I'm guessing the money made up for it. Besides he could always go back to Boise State or a place like it the next time they have an opening.

I'd like to see him go to a place that hasn't had a lot of success, then do well and be really appreciated.

[bonarae]

I'd like to see him go to a place that hasn't had a lot of success, then do well and be really appreciated.

Where? D-II or FCS? xchinscratchx

[Laker]

Where? D-II or FCS? xchinscratchx

Anywhere that hadn't tasted much success. I remember how excited the New Mexico State people were a couple of years ago when they won a bowl. The blue blood programs just expect to be in the title hunt every year. I like to see teams that aren't expected to win get people pumped.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile, the Michigan saga has another outspoken alumnus at a loss for words.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/tom-brady-at-a-complete-loss-over-michigan-falling-to-ohio-state-for-eighth-consecutive-season/

[PAllen]

Meanwhile, the Michigan saga has another outspoken alumnus at a loss for words.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/tom-brady-at-a-complete-loss-over-michigan-falling-to-ohio-state-for-eighth-consecutive-season/

I totally understand the frustration of losing to your arch rival year after year. But, consistent 9 and 10 win seasons against Michigan's schedule are nothing to scoff at.

[CHIP72]

Anywhere that hadn't tasted much success. I remember how excited the New Mexico State people were a couple of years ago when they won a bowl. The blue blood programs just expect to be in the title hunt every year. I like to see teams that aren't expected to win get people pumped.

What’s interesting about your comment Laker is sometimes programs “graduate” from “excited to be there” to “expect to be in a bowl every year or almost every year”. Temple is a good example of this. Ten years ago (2009), the Owls posted their first winning season in 19 years (1990) and were selected to play in a bowl game for the first time in 30 years (1979). Temple fans were thrilled the Owls were playing in a bowl game, even if it was a lower tier game at the time and it wasn’t at a warm weather site. (The 2009 Temple team played in the EagleBank Bowl, now known as the Military Bowl, at RFK Stadium in DC during the bowl’s second year of existence. It was COLD that day, probably in the mid to upper 20s F and windy.) Fast forward 10 years, and Temple is playing in its 5th straight bowl game this season, and has been bowl eligible 6 straight years and 9 of the last 11 seasons. It also won an AAC division championship (2015) and overall AAC league championship (2016) during that time. Now, Temple fans want the Owls to play P5 opponents in bowl games (and beat them), and really want to see the Owls grab an elusive NY6 bowl bid. Appearing in bowl games has become old hat.

At the P5 level, the program that probably best exemplifies this is Northwestern, with the change point occurring in 1995. Northwestern fans probably expect the Wildcats to play in bowl games most seasons, but for many years prior to 1995, Northwestern fans would probably have been thrilled to see their team play in any bowl game.


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[JacksFan40]

With Minnesota finishing at 10-2 it’s projected they’ll be rewarded with a trip to lovely Tampa, Florida for the Outback Bowl. Normally that’d be great and all but it’s projected they’ll draw Alabama... Hopefully for the Gophers sake Bama doesn’t care about this game and plays with no spirit, but I doubt Saban will allow that.

[dewey]

The 2nd half of the Utah vs Oregon game has been very good. Boy Oregon is very good and not just their offense with Herbert.

Good game.

Dewey

[dewey]

Oregon beats Utah 37-15 for the PAC 12 championship.

Boy is Oregon going to be a load next fall for NDSU.

Dewey

[JacksFan40]

Oregon beats Utah 37-15 for the PAC 12 championship.

Boy is Oregon going to be a load next fall for NDSU.

Dewey
Is it safe to say this’ll be the biggest FBS game in NDSU history? On the plus side for NDSU the Oregon QB is going pro, he’d of been nearly impossible to stop.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Is it safe to say this’ll be the biggest FBS game in NDSU history? On the plus side for NDSU the Oregon QB is going pro, he’d of been nearly impossible to stop.

Good chance! But, like the K-State game NDSU catches a huge break in not having to face an elite QB. That Wildcat team ended up being fringe Top 25 good once they settled on a signal caller. Iowa was no slouch either.

[Ivytalk]

Oklahoma dominated the stats, but Baylor took the Sooners to OT before losing the Big 12 championship. Maybe OU can sneak into the CFP if LSU blows out Jawjuh and Clempson gets upset by UVA.

[dewey]

Is it safe to say this’ll be the biggest FBS game in NDSU history? On the plus side for NDSU the Oregon QB is going pro, he’d of been nearly impossible to stop.

I think so. The Iowa game was HUGE as Iowa was ranked about #11 but I think this one may be bigger.

NDSU is very fortunate that Herbert is gone. He is GOOD!

Oregon is very good up front on both sides.

Dewey

[dewey]

The Big Ten title game just got more interesting.

Wisconsin 21
Ohio State 17

Mid 3rd quarter.

Dewe

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I think so. The Iowa game was HUGE as Iowa was ranked about #11 but I think this one may be bigger.

NDSU is very fortunate that Herbert is gone. He is GOOD!

Oregon is very good up front on both sides.

Dewey


I think Oregon loses 4 on the OL next year.

[bonarae]

Wow.

Michigan gets Bama and the Goofies get Aubie. Both will play on New Year's Day.

[CHIP72]

I saw three P5 teams that qualified for bowl games this season, so I'll probably have a little more interest in the bowl games involving those teams. Those bowl games are (teams I saw in person shown in bold):

12/30 (Mon): Music City Bowl (Nashville, TN) - Mississippi State vs Louisville, 4 PM ET
12/30 (Mon): Orange Bowl (Miami Gardens, FL) - Virginia vs Florida, 8 PM ET
12/31 (Tue): Liberty Bowl (Memphis, TN) - Kansas State vs Navy, 3:45 PM ET

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I saw three P5 teams that qualified for bowl games this season, so I'll probably have a little more interest in the bowl games involving those teams. Those bowl games are (teams I saw in person shown in bold):

12/30 (Mon): Music City Bowl (Nashville, TN) - Mississippi State vs Louisville, 4 PM ET
12/30 (Mon): Orange Bowl (Miami Gardens, FL) - Virginia vs Florida, 8 PM ET
12/31 (Tue): Liberty Bowl (Memphis, TN) - Kansas State vs Navy, 3:45 PM ET

Virginia has no business playing in the Orange Bowl. Florida should roll by 21+....

[CHIP72]

Virginia has no business playing in the Orange Bowl. Florida should roll by 21+....

The ACC probably should have given its Orange Bowl spot to Notre Dame this year.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The ACC probably should have given its Orange Bowl spot to Notre Dame this year.

Absolutely! As a Notre Dame fan Irish-Cyclone has zero intrigue. 10-2 vs 7-5? Now I know how 10-1 Colorado felt in 1994 when they had to play a 6-4-1 ND team in the Fiesta Bowl. Notre Dame has turned down bowl invites in the past. I would have been fine with them doing it again. I don't think its worth risking injury or forcing draft eligible players to make a business decision if they should play or not. 10-2 was a darn good year and just move on to 2020.

[JayJ79]

Absolutely! As a Notre Dame fan Irish-Cyclone has zero intrigue. 10-2 vs 7-5? Now I know how 10-1 Colorado felt in 1994 when they had to play a 6-4-1 ND team in the Fiesta Bowl. Notre Dame has turned down bowl invites in the past. I would have been fine with them doing it again. I don't think its worth risking injury or forcing draft eligible players to make a business decision if they should play or not. 10-2 was a darn good year and just move on to 2020.

will be cool to see ISU get the win

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

will be cool to see ISU get the win

And no one will care or remember if they do...lol

[Laker]

Wow.

Michigan gets Bama and the Goofies get Aubie. Both will play on New Year's Day.

All the media guesses here were one or the other- no other teams were ever mentioned. The final prediction was Auburn and they were right. Never played them before. Goofs beat Bama in the Music City Bowl- then the U of M band played Rocky Top after the game. Bama fans were ticked but what could they do?

[JayJ79]

And no one will care or remember if they do...lol

as is the case with 99% of all the bowls. *shrug*

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

as is the case with 99% of all the bowls. *shrug*

Exactly, it's become a bunch of pointless football. That's why i think it's time for teams to say thanks but no thanks. Focus on the early signing period and keeping guys healthy for the next season. If I'm Kelly I wouldn't play any of the sure fire NFL guys and would try to rotate a lot of underclassman. Basically use it as a glorified scrimmage. If we win great, if not the goal was to get guys reps and game experience.

[JayJ79]

Exactly, it's become a bunch of pointless football. That's why i think it's time for teams to say thanks but no thanks. Focus on the early signing period and keeping guys healthy for the next season. If I'm Kelly I wouldn't play any of the sure fire NFL guys and would try to rotate a lot of underclassman. Basically use it as a glorified scrimmage. If we win great, if not the goal was to get guys reps and game experience.

if bowl games mean nothing, then their regular season means nothing as well. Might as well drop the entire football program

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

if bowl games mean nothing, then their regular season means nothing as well. Might as well drop the entire football program

The regular season means everything! That's why college football is great! The postseason bowl setup has become a joke however.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

R.I.P. Hayden Fry

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28322252/iowa-great-hall-fame-coach-hayden-fry-dies-90

The tv show "Coach" was linked to Hayden Fry and the University of Iowa.

[Laker]

R.I.P. Hayden Fry

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28322252/iowa-great-hall-fame-coach-hayden-fry-dies-90

The tv show "Coach" was linked to Hayden Fry and the University of Iowa.

The pink locker room, America Needs Farmers, copying the Steelers uniform- Hayden used his psychology degree.

One year I was in Iowa City to close out the year with the Gophers. Guy next to me was a complete dink- figured he couldn't say anything to a visiting fan. He walked out with about two minutes to go as the Gophers were leading 43-7. His parting shot was "Hayden didn't want to win this year!" Next year they went to the Rose Bowl. He must have wanted to win again. Fans like that are full of crap. Hayden brought back winning like they hadn't seen since Forrest Evashevski.

[CHIP72]

DI-A/FBS level college football has the most idiotic postseason in U.S. sports, mainly because most of the postseason is anticlimactic. The NFL proves every year that a regular season can have a lot of meaning with every game or almost every game meaning a lot to playoff contenders (and with all or almost all of those games occurring against teams that can beat them on a given day, which often is not true in college football because of the much greater talent disparity) but have that regular season BUILD towards a postseason that has even bigger games. In DI-A/FBS football, the regular season builds towards...nothing for most teams (except a meaningless bowl game), and the momentum that is built by regular season action peters out.

The DI-A/FBS regular season would become a lot more meaningful IMO if 1) the playoff field was expanded to 12 or 16 teams (though even 8 teams would be an improvement over what exists now, just like the 4 team playoff was an improvement over the lack of a playoff that existed previously) and 2) the higher ranked teams were allowed to host early round playoff games and only the championship game was held at a neutral site (i.e. scrap the long-existing bowl system). The minor bowls could be kept around, and teams eliminated in the earlier rounds of the playoffs could still play in bowl games if they wanted, but using the bowls as part of the playoff system would be eliminated.

[JacksFan40]

The P5 teams are getting going now.
Washington beat Boise State last Saturday in the Las Vegas Bowl 38-7.
Miami just got embarrassed in the Independence Bowl by Louisiana Tech 14-0.
Pittsburgh struggling with Eastern Michigan in the Quick Lane Bowl, EMU leads 20-17 at halftime. Pitt is a 7-5 ACC team while EMU is a 6-6 MAC team, it’s obvious EMU wants to win more.

[JacksFan40]

North Carolina beat Temple in the Military Bowl 55-13.
First all P5 bowl game going on as Wake Forest leads Michigan State 21-17 in the 2nd Quarter of the Pinstripe Bowl.
2 more all P5 games tonight, Texas A&M faces Oklahoma State in the Texas Bowl.
USC vs Iowa in the Holiday Bowl.
Another G5 vs P5 as Air Force vs Washington State in the Cheez-It Bowl also goes on tonight.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Good atmosphere in Houston for Oklahoma State vs Texas A&M. This one feels like it matters.....

[bonarae]

Wake was caught sleeping by Sparty and collapsed.

Okie State and aTm are in a close game; Iowa leads the Trojan Horses.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Watching the Holiday Bowl just gives me another opportunity to say San Diego deserves better.

[bonarae]

aTm holds on against Okie State.

Iowa and the Trojan Horses playing tight...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Notre Dame up 10-0 in the 1st quarter against Iowa State.....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Notre Dame taking it to Iowa State 20-3 late in the second quarter. Irish have been way too physical for the Cyclones in the first half....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Notre Dame up 33-9 late in the 4th quarter. A game like this is another example of why the bowl system is screwed up. Notre Dame should have been in the Orange Bowl against Florida. A fringe top 10 Irish team should not have been sent to Orlando to play a middling 7-5 Cylone squad. If nothing else pair App State or Air Force against Notre Dame and let Wazzu and Iowa State play in one of the true participation bowls.

The biggest reason Notre Dame is in this game is because ESPN/ABC wanted a marquee name to lead into the college football playoffs. By having Notre Dame and PSU playing you have two blue bloods capturing the early part of a holiday Saturday.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

will be cool to see ISU get the win

Not even close.

Notre Dame is really good. They're just not Alabama, LSU, Clemson and Ohio State good. The Irish talent level is excellent and Kelly has done a great job utilizing it the last 3-4 years. This is the best the program's been since the late 80's, early 90's under Holtz. ND like Penn State, Georgia, Auburn, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Florida and Michigan are really good but just not quite good enough.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LSU 21 Oklahoma 7 End of 1Q

The Sooners are basically the equivalent of Michigan State basketball.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

#44 for Oklahoma with an all-time cheap shot on the LSU running back. With the way this is headed the Sooners might as well hop on the wagon train back to Norman at half....

[POD Knows]

Ok. Just turned on the LSU Okie game. What. Is LSU going to drop a hundo on these guys.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Ok. Just turned on the LSU Okie game. What. Is LSU going to drop a hundo on these guys.

They might! 35-7 9:17 2Q

The is a complete ass kicking. This is worse than the 2004 USC-Oklahoma Title game. Good lawd.....

[JSUSoutherner]

At first I was mad about the absolutely egregious missed PI by the refs early in the game.

But now I realize it would still be an ass beating regardless.

I'm kind of wondering whether Ohio State or Clemson can actually match up with these guys.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

49-14 at the half.....this is ugly....

In general, the playoff semifinals have been awful. Outside of Oklahoma-Georgia there hasn't been much to remember.....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LSU destroys Oklahoma 63-28. I have to think Clemson-Ohio State will be MUCH better....

[JacksFan40]

This is why the FBS should go back to the BCS system. Almost all of the CFP semifinal games have been blowouts since they started the playoffs. Oklahoma vs Georgia in 2017 is the only good semifinal game I can think of, hopefully Ohio State vs Clemson is much better.

[PaladinFan]

This is why the FBS should go back to the BCS system. Almost all of the CFP semifinal games have been blowouts since they started the playoffs. Oklahoma vs Georgia in 2017 is the only good semifinal game I can think of, hopefully Ohio State vs Clemson is much better.

I mean, not really. They're blowouts because there are a few elite programs that very few teams can stay on the field with. It doesn't matter if a computer sets the matchup or a selection committee.

Besides, it doesn't matter who played LSU in the semi finals - they were going to get steamrolled. There are probably only three teams in the country that can play with the Tigers - Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State. I'm confident in Alabama, because that was a hard fought game. I'm less confident in the latter two because neither Clemson nor OSU has played a team remotely as good as LSU is. Auburn and Georgia are probable better than both Clemson and OSU.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Ohio State has come out on fire! 10-0 Buckeyes midway through the first quarter....

T Higgins looks like he might have a concussion which is bad news for the Clemson offense.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I mean, not really. They're blowouts because there are a few elite programs that very few teams can stay on the field with. It doesn't matter if a computer sets the matchup or a selection committee.

Besides, it doesn't matter who played LSU in the semi finals - they were going to get steamrolled. There are probably only three teams in the country that can play with the Tigers - Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State. I'm confident in Alabama, because that was a hard fought game. I'm less confident in the latter two because neither Clemson nor OSU has played a team remotely as good as LSU is. Auburn and Georgia are probable better than both Clemson and OSU.

Georgia's offense is inconsistent and Gus Malzhan team's tend to have a "WTF?" game a little too often. With that said, both are easily in the upper echelon of college football. LSU looked ridiculous today but Oklahoma was a pretty flaky 4th team imo. The Sooners knew they were outmatched and threw in the towel early.

[PaladinFan]

Georgia's offense is inconsistent and Gus Malzhan team's tend to have a "WTF?" game a little too often. With that said, both are easily in the upper echelon of college football. LSU looked ridiculous today but Oklahoma was a pretty flaky 4th team imo. The Sooners knew they were outmatched and threw in the towel early.

Still blows my mind that Fields is somehow playing for Ohio State right now. Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields grew up about 20 miles from one another in North Georgia.

[POD Knows]

Terrible targeting call on OSU.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Terrible targeting call on OSU.

Could be a game changer. Clemson cashes in on that drive with a TD. Ohio State has dominated for the most part but it's only 16-7. I think playing a bunch of middling ACC teams has hurt Clemson to start. As the game wears on I think they'll have adapted. Even so by then it might be too late.

[PaladinFan]

Could be a game changer. Clemson cashes in on that drive with a TD. Ohio State has dominated for the most part but it's only 16-7. I think playing a bunch of middling ACC teams has hurt Clemson to start. As the game wears on I think they'll have adapted. Even so by then it might be too late.

The ACC has stunk for a while and Clemson's still good.

The targeting play was a tough call on Ohio State, but its not "bad officiating," as some argue. It's the rule. It's not really a judgment call.

[POD Knows]

Could be a game changer. Clemson cashes in on that drive with a TD. Ohio State has dominated for the most part but it's only 16-7. I think playing a bunch of middling ACC teams has hurt Clemson to start. As the game wears on I think they'll have adapted. Even so by then it might be too late.O line for Clemson is having a lot of trouble with OSU but Clemson is hanging tough.

[Bisonoline]

The ACC has stunk for a while and Clemson's still good.

The targeting play was a tough call on Ohio State, but its not "bad officiating," as some argue. It's the rule. It's not really a judgment call.

That one was pretty obvious.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Clemson has awoken! Lawrence just housed it from 60+! Game on!!

[PaladinFan]

Lawrence is a freak. 6'6 220 and runs like that.

[POD Knows]

That one was pretty obvious.Yea, saw the replay a couple times, probably the right call but it is still lame.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The ACC has stunk for a while and Clemson's still good.

The targeting play was a tough call on Ohio State, but its not "bad officiating," as some argue. It's the rule. It's not really a judgment call.

It really bottomed out this season. Syracuse was legit last season with Dungy at QB. Miami in 2017 had a really good year with NC State and Virginia Tech being solid too. Prior to that there's Top 15 FSU and Louisville teams. As it is, Clemson now is basically what Florida State was to the ACC in the 90's...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Yea, saw the replay a couple times, probably the right call but it is still lame.

The noise and Lawrence's reaction really added to the optics. Relative to the targeting call in the LSU game this was just a bad break for the OSU kid imo. Nothing dirty about it but he did lower his head which led to a pretty nasty collision.

[POD Knows]

The noise and Lawrence's reaction really added to the optics. Relative to the targeting call in the LSU game this was just a bad break for the OSU kid imo. Nothing dirty about it but he did lower his head which led to a pretty nasty collision.Saw a replay of the hit in the Oklahoma/LSU game, big time cheap shot.

[PaladinFan]

It really bottomed out this season. Syracuse was legit last season with Dungy at QB. Miami in 2017 had a really good year with NC State and Virginia Tech being solid too. Prior to that there's Top 15 FSU and Louisville teams. As it is, Clemson now is basically what Florida State was to the ACC in the 90's...

I mean, VT was one of the ACC's better teams and it took everything they had to beat Furman this season.

I give most top 25 FCS programs a punchers chance against the ACC outside of Clemson.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Saw a replay of the hit in the Oklahoma/LSU game, big time cheap shot.

That was one of the worst cheap shots i've seen this year. Burrow was running by him to his left yet all he did was eye up the running back and literally launched himself at his head. That was borderline criminal.

I'm starting to wish there was a targeting rule that just had a 15 yard penalty and one that still had the ejection element for egregious acts.

[JacksFan40]

I mean, not really. They're blowouts because there are a few elite programs that very few teams can stay on the field with. It doesn't matter if a computer sets the matchup or a selection committee.

Besides, it doesn't matter who played LSU in the semi finals - they were going to get steamrolled. There are probably only three teams in the country that can play with the Tigers - Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State. I'm confident in Alabama, because that was a hard fought game. I'm less confident in the latter two because neither Clemson nor OSU has played a team remotely as good as LSU is. Auburn and Georgia are probable better than both Clemson and OSU.
I just don’t like the playoff system, it’s seriously devalued the NY6 bowls as they’re now seen as consolidation prizes rather than an actual achievement.
Also if they went back to the BCS it’d actually give G5 teams a better shot at making it, UCF never got higher then 8 despite going undefeated for 2 straight seasons. Back in 2007 South Florida jumped all the way to 2, granted they were part of the Big East which was a decent conference. Boise made it all the way to 3 as well.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I just don’t like the playoff system, it’s seriously devalued the NY6 bowls as they’re now seen as consolidation prizes rather than an actual achievement.
Also if they went back to the BCS it’d actually give G5 teams a better shot at making it, UCF never got higher then 8 despite going undefeated for 2 straight seasons. Back in 2007 South Florida jumped all the way to 2, granted they were part of the Big East which was a decent conference. Boise made it all the way to 3 as well.

Boise State might have been #3 in the BCS but they had a great shot to go to the title game in 2010 had they not blown the Nevada game. Their kicker missed two relatively short FGs iirc which cost them. Prior to the Nevada loss there was growing sentiment for the Broncos to get in over either Auburn or Oregon. Their program really hasn't been the same since.

[PaladinFan]

I just don’t like the playoff system, it’s seriously devalued the NY6 bowls as they’re now seen as consolidation prizes rather than an actual achievement.
Also if they went back to the BCS it’d actually give G5 teams a better shot at making it, UCF never got higher then 8 despite going undefeated for 2 straight seasons. Back in 2007 South Florida jumped all the way to 2, granted they were part of the Big East which was a decent conference. Boise made it all the way to 3 as well.

Right, but does it really matter, though?

Do we really need to see Memphis or App State lose by 50 to LSU?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Clemson takes the lead on another big play!

[PaladinFan]

#southernspeed

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Right, but does it really matter, though?

Do we really need to see Memphis or App State lose by 50 to LSU?

Boise State at that time was considerably better than App State and Memphis in 2019. By 2010 the Broncos had been on the national scene for 6-7 years. Their win over Oklahoma had earned them ton of interest. Plus, the whole blue turf/being from Idaho thing added to their national intrigue. What also helped them was TCU basically playing at a similar/elite level in the Mountain West. Both of them beat P5 teams in the reg and often really good ones on a big stage.

My guesstimate is there's probably 2-3 G5 teams a decade worthy of a title shot. But given how equity is earned this day in age they'll never have the momentum to get there....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow! I thought that was a catch and scoop and score!!

[PaladinFan]

Boise State at that time was considerably better than App State and Memphis in 2019. By 2010 the Broncos had been on the national scene for 6-7 years. Their win over Oklahoma had earned them ton of interest. Plus, the whole blue turf/being from Idaho thing added to their national intrigue. What also helped them was TCU basically playing at a similar/elite level in the Mountain West. Both of them beat P5 teams in the reg and often really good ones on a big stage.

My guesstimate is there's probably 2-3 G5 teams a decade worthy of a title shot. But given how equity is earned this day in age they'll never have the momentum to get there....

It took Boise State years to try and gin up enough interest to even get in the conversation, though.

It's just tough for any "mid-major" program to convince a national audience that a 12-0 G5 team is worthy of a title shot. They just don't play enough nationally relevant games.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

This has been a great game! Clemson just put together an epic 95 yard drive to take the lead with just under 2 minutes left.....