P5 Football

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Clemson survives 29-23! Great game between two elite teams. I think the national title game will be a good one.

FCS was a two horse race in 2019 while FBS was 3-deep....

[Lorne_Malvo]

Dabo says win the dadgum day. Hes been talking to Klieman again.

[Bisonoline]

Wow what a game!

[JacksFan40]

This was a great game, will be fun to see how Clemson matches up with LSU.

[PaladinFan]

5th year in a row the FBS title game will feature two southern teams.

LSU will have their hands full with Clemson, but I don't think any team in the country can go four rounds with Coach O's bunch. Especially not in New Orleans. That place is going to be a mad house.

[Lorne_Malvo]

LSU should be able to beat Clemson. I am guessing LSU opens -10.

[Panther88]

I am PISSEDOLA that THE.... Ohio State University lost this game. xsmhx Really wanted the bucks to win it and then throttle lsu.

Trash “sec” refs. xsmhx

[ngineer]

The Fiesta Bowl was one of the best games in recent memory. Tremendous skill players. I'm leaning toward LSU over Clemson, but with so many playmakers it could be wild. O/U could be near 100.

On another note/game, the Penn State/Memphis game was also entertaining. It showed PSU with a tremendous stable of young running backs all coming back next year. If Hamler decides to stay, the Nits' offense could be wild, as well, not to mention their #11 LB who, in addition to his number, reminded me of LaVar Arrington.

[caribbeanhen]

pretty boy Clemson QB took more hits last night than he did all season, he must be sore as ****.....

I look for LSU to have their way with Clemson

number 9 is a beast for Clemson though, not sure how he got in the EZ on that run when he locked hands with the Ohio State player....

[JSUSoutherner]

The Fiesta Bowl was one of the best games in recent memory. Tremendous skill players. I'm leaning toward LSU over Clemson, but with so many playmakers it could be wild. O/U could be near 100.

On another note/game, the Penn State/Memphis game was also entertaining. It showed PSU with a tremendous stable of young running backs all coming back next year. If Hamler decides to stay, the Nits' offense could be wild, as well, not to mention their #11 LB who, in addition to his number, reminded me of LaVar Arrington.

Yup, that Linebacker from Penn State was absolutely nuts.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Clemson's Etienne is a Louisiana boy, from Jennings, just down the road from McNeese. It was fun watching him. Having said that, I don't think he's going to be able to do that against LSU.

And I'd say that even without the pretty strong LSU/McNeese connections. It's pretty common knowledge that McNeese starting QB Cody Orgeron is the son of Coach O...plus Coach O and LSU Offensive Coordinator Steve Ensminger both got their coaching starts at McNeese. Ensminger arrived on campus as a GA in 1983 and within two years was the OC. Orgeron got there in 85 as a GA with the strength program. He moved from McNeese to Arkansas as part of Hatfield's staff before heading over to Miami.

I don't reckon any McNeese fans will be pulling for Clemson...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Kentucky beats Virginia Tech 31-30 in a highly emotional, competitive game. The two teams got in a pretty good brawl prior to the game which paved the way for hotly contested 60 minutes.

K-State vs Navy is coming up. Really looking forward to this one! Both teams are well disciplined and tough minded.

[POD Knows]

Kentucky beats Virginia Tech 31-30 in a highly emotional, competitive game. The two teams got in a pretty good brawl prior to the game which paved the way for hotly contested 60 minutes.

K-State vs Navy is coming up. Really looking forward to this one! Both teams are well disciplined and tough minded.Navy beats K State on a flea flicker. Pretty good game, Navy was the better team. The QB for Navy can ball.

[JayJ79]

how does one get into a brawl BEFORE the game starts?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Navy beats K State on a flea flicker. Pretty good game, Navy was the better team. The QB for Navy can ball.

Great playcall at the end to set up the game winning FG! Really enjoyed that game!

Arizona State beat Florida State in what looked like a JV scrimmage. Both teams looked awful. The Seminoles would have won if they held onto the ball.....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Texas is taking it to Utah in the Alamo Bowl. The Utes look undisciplined and nothing like a Top 10 team.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

how does one get into a brawl BEFORE the game starts?

Here's the video. Just dudes sticking their chests out and running their mouth. I've seen more unsportsmanlike stuff this bowl than ever before. It's like the The "U" circa 1989 is invading nearly every locker room.

https://www.roanoke.com/sports/college/va_tech/video-virginia-tech-and-kentucky-players-have-to-be-separated/video_de6c295e-2be3-11ea-987c-7be046087d7c.html

[Laker]

how does one get into a brawl BEFORE the game starts?

The number of idiots on BOTH sides was almost uncountable. The Kentucky QB needs to do a lot of growing up if he expects to make it in the NFL next year.

Utah is looking just awful.

[JayJ79]

Here's the video. Just dudes sticking their chests out and running their mouth. I've seen more unsportsmanlike stuff this bowl than ever before. It's like the The "U" circa 1989 is invading nearly every locker room.

https://www.roanoke.com/sports/college/va_tech/video-virginia-tech-and-kentucky-players-have-to-be-separated/video_de6c295e-2be3-11ea-987c-7be046087d7c.html

if that was the extent of it, I'd hardly call it a brawl (unless there was stuff going on that I couldn't see from that far away).
definitely unsportsmanlike, though.

[CHIP72]

Arizona State beat Florida State in what looked like a JV scrimmage. Both teams looked awful. The Seminoles would have won if they held onto the ball.....

RE: Arizona State

What?!? I thought they'rrrrrrrrrre great! They played to win the game!

[JacksFan40]

The number of idiots on BOTH sides was almost uncountable. The Kentucky QB needs to do a lot of growing up if he expects to make it in the NFL next year.

Utah is looking just awful.
Kentucky’s QB has no future as a QB, he switched from receiver this year because the original QB got hurt.
Utah was exposed as a fraud by Oregon and Texas took them behind the woodshed.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Two Big 10 vs SEC matchups to start NYD...

Minnesota vs Auburn
Michigan vs Alabama

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Gophers take a 31-24 lead on Auburn with 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter! Minnesota has been extremely impressive. Their WR Johnson has been incredible...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The Gophers take down Auburn 31-24!! That was a great win against a big time SEC team! Wow!

[Laker]

I knew that the Gophers had a great pair of wideouts, and Johnson had an MVP day with some amazing catches. The TE surprised me with his one handed grab on 4th down to help run out the clock. He also had a TD catch on 4th down. Gophers did a great job of holding down Auburn's rushing attack.

[Laker]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENOaESqVAAAmMIz?format=jpg&name=small

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I knew that the Gophers had a great pair of wideouts, and Johnson had an MVP day with some amazing catches. The TE surprised me with his one handed grab on 4th down to help run out the clock. He also had a TD catch on 4th down. Gophers did a great job of holding down Auburn's rushing attack.

Their OL did a really good job against a really good Auburn defensive front. The Gopher play calling was also excellent. The staff continuously put the QB in a position to execute. I was honestly shocked by the outcome. I thought the Tigers had a chance to win by 17+ but the Gophers brought it for 60 minutes.

In other news Alabama pulled away from Michigan late to win 35-16. The Tide hit on a bunch of big plays while the Michigan offense kept shooting itself in the football whenever they got in or near the redzone.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

With 11 minutes left in the game the Oregon helmet's are reflecting the SoCal sky at sunset. Might be the coolest uniform quirk i've ever seen....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Oregon survives Wisconsin 28-27 in a great, GREAT Rose Bowl! The title game should be at the Rose Bowl every 3 years. The place is just the mecca of college football....

[Chalupa Batman]

Oregon survives Wisconsin 28-27 in a great, GREAT Rose Bowl! The title game should be at the Rose Bowl every 3 years. The place is just the mecca of college football....

I’d like to see the Rose Bowl back in the Super Bowl rotation as well.


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[JacksFan40]

Oregon vs NDSU is going to be a hell of a game next season. Not sure what Oregon brings back but NDSU sure brings back quite a bit. If NDSU wins expect the most “move to FBS” comments we’ve ever seen.

[PaladinFan]

Bowl season always has interesting storylines.

The SEC has pretty well manhandled the Big 12 in two marquee matchups. Georgia's down about 15 players and still dominating Baylor. LSU, of course, pummeled Oklahoma.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Bowl season always has interesting storylines.

The SEC has pretty well manhandled the Big 12 in two marquee matchups. Georgia's down about 15 players and still dominating Baylor. LSU, of course, pummeled Oklahoma.

Baylor still in it late in the 3rd quarter. I'm a big Rhule fan but he's not had the best game managing things....

[JacksFan40]

Bowl season always has interesting storylines.

The SEC has pretty well manhandled the Big 12 in two marquee matchups. Georgia's down about 15 players and still dominating Baylor. LSU, of course, pummeled Oklahoma.
Outside of Texas throttling Utah the Big 12 is winless this bowl season.

[PaladinFan]

Baylor still in it late in the 3rd quarter. I'm a big Rhule fan but he's not had the best game managing things....

I was actually expecting Baylor to win.

As of the last reporting before the game, Georgia was going into the game without 13 players, including 6 starters and 12 guys off the two deep. UGA's all-everything running back, D'Andre Swift - arguably the nation's top running back - dealt with injuries late in the season and had only 1 carry.

I assumed those would be hard losses to overcome against a good team. Baylor is probably lucky that the Dawgs weren't full strength.

[JayJ79]

Georgia's down about 15 players

injury? academic ineligibility?

[Laker]

injury? academic ineligibility?

Combination of reasons- injuries for most, undisclosed reasons for others.

[CHIP72]

I’d like to see the Rose Bowl back in the Super Bowl rotation as well.


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That will never happen (unless the Rose Bowl is torn down and rebuilt) because the NFL wants to hold the Super Bowl at a stadium that has extensive luxury seating. Super Bowls up through the mid-1990s were sometimes held at large college stadiums because the NFL stadiums didn’t have as much or as high of quality luxury seating at the time and the college stadiums had greater seating capacity. Additionally, the NFL will have a nicer stadium to use in the Los Angeles area (the Rams’/Chargers’ new stadium) that would prevent the Rose Bowl from getting the game.

On a related note to the last point, don’t be surprised if the national championship game is held at the new Los Angeles football stadium in the future, or even if the Rose Bowl game is moved to that stadium at some point.


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[CHIP72]

Baylor still in it late in the 3rd quarter. I'm a big Rhule fan but he's not had the best game managing things....

He was probably distracted thinking about the NFL head coaching job he’ll probably accept in the next few days.


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[Bisonoline]

Baylor still in it late in the 3rd quarter. I'm a big Rhule fan but he's not had the best game managing things....

What the hell was that a smock he was wearing? Looked like he just got out of barber college. ??????????

[PaladinFan]

injury? academic ineligibility?

This is what the AJC reported: https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/least-georgia-players-miss-sugar-bowl/o1GzbAy9xFfKJbBSrt7m5M/

A few guys not on that list were transferring. D'andre Swift had been limited in the last few games with a shoulder injury.

UGA wouldn't discuss who was missing in the pregame lead up. From some that I read, it seemed they were actively trying to mask who was out. Even during media availability at practice the practices were run with a jumbled mix of players and not done by position groups.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Pretty decent Gator Bowl matchup tonight between Tennessee and Indiana.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The crowd for the Gator Bowl is bigger than most Jag games. This bowl deserves a little better time slot given its history imo. Should be on NYE if nothing else.

[FormerPokeCenter]

When I hear "Gator" Bowl, I can't help but visualize a competition between scores of drunk preppy college kids, clad in topsiders, plaid bermuda shorts and pastel colored button downs; throwing themselves down on the dance floor and flagellating like loose vibrators, trying to see who can display the least amount of rhythm in the sortest period of time.....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Indiana leads Tennessee 22-16 with about 5 minutes left. This has been an enjoyable game. I have to think if the Hoosiers win they have a great shot to finish in the final Top 25 which would be a huge deal for their program.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The Vols come back to rip out the Hoosier's hearts 23-22. The onside kick late was a helluva call that won Tennessee the game. The Indiana kicker just missed a 52 yard FG that might have given IU the W.

This game had a better atmosphere than 95% of the bowls I've watched. Great crowd, lots of "Rocky Top" being played, some crazy plays, historical game since it was the 75th edition... Good stuff....

[Laker]

Indiana just couldn't hold on. Plenty of chances to pull out a win, but just couldn't do it.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Indiana just couldn't hold on. Plenty of chances to pull out a win, but just couldn't do it.

Indiana has had several games like this the last few years. They've had chances to beat Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State etc but can't get over the hump. This was a huge loss in terms of killing momentum for the program. The had a chance to win their first bowl since 91, first 9 win season in decades and likely finish in the Top 25...

I was rooting for the Hoosiers. I feel bad they lost....

[Laker]

I was rooting for the Hoosiers. I feel bad they lost....

Hoosiers & Gophers have the longest Rose Bowl droughts in the BIG (not counting MD or RU). 1967 was the last time those two had a BIG title (with Purdue). IU had never gone before so they got the nod. Lots of frustration with those two programs.

[Laker]

Why wait so long? I thought they would keep him after beating Ole Miss.

Joe Moorhead fired at Mississippi State after 2 seasons, sources told @Stadium (https://twitter.com/Stadium)
. His dismissal coincides w/team’s late season swoon, discipline issues plaguing program thru out season & “he was not a great fit,” source said

[CHIP72]

Why wait so long? I thought they would keep him after beating Ole Miss.

Joe Moorhead fired at Mississippi State after 2 seasons, sources told @Stadium (https://twitter.com/Stadium)
. His dismissal coincides w/team’s late season swoon, discipline issues plaguing program thru out season & “he was not a great fit,” source said

Bolded part can be read as "Mississippi State was worried about Ole Miss' hiring of Lane Kiffin".

[ngineer]

Indiana leads Tennessee 22-16 with about 5 minutes left. This has been an enjoyable game. I have to think if the Hoosiers win they have a great shot to finish in the final Top 25 which would be a huge deal for their program.

Our local high school band, Easton Area Red Rover Marching Band, was part of the halftime show. Unfortunately, the networks don't show the halftime marching bands anymore; however, what I did see on Facebook posted by parents was a remarkable performance.

[ngineer]

Indiana just couldn't hold on. Plenty of chances to pull out a win, but just couldn't do it.
Yeah, felt bad for IU. They have been getting so close in recent years. Probably in their best run since the Lee Corso days. If they could have gotten five more yards before the FG attempt, I think they would have made the kick. Kid has strong leg, but a heck of a slice that for which he has to compensate.

[Laker]

Our local high school band, Easton Area Red Rover Marching Band, was part of the halftime show. Unfortunately, the networks don't show the halftime marching bands anymore; however, what I did see on Facebook posted by parents was a remarkable performance.

1966 Orange Bowl. Michigan State and Arkansas were upset that day, so Bama & Nebraska were basically playing for the national championship that night. I was amazed at the Bama band because they marched into the scores of those two earlier games. They must have had some great practices to do that on the fly. I miss not seeing great bands perform.

The next year in the Sugar Bowl Bama beat the Huskers again but didn't get named national champs.

[Laker]

Tulane has as many SEC Football Championships (3) as Kentucky, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Arkansas, South Carolina, Missouri, and Texas A&M combined.

[Laker]

Ready to start:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EONBw8cUwAAuF-f?format=jpg&name=small

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Clemson has looked good to start. This is gonna be fun!!

[Laker]

Clemson has looked good to start. This is gonna be fun!!

If either team can establish the run it will be a huge advantage. Both defenses look pretty tough. Can Lawrence get outside of contain?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

If either team can establish the run it will be a huge advantage. Both defenses look pretty tough. Can Lawrence get outside of contain?

Clemson gets a TD on their third possession. Clemson looks extremely well prepared and more ready for the bright lights. LSU needs to get the offense going. If the Bayou Bengals can settle down I think they'll get rolling....

[Laker]

Tie game after an LSU bomb.

[Laker]

Field goal by Clemson, now up 10-7.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Clemson just scored again. Dabo and Venables are owning this game so far! LSU better get it together or they're going to get run ala 'Bama last year....

[Laker]

Wow- great play by Clemson's Higgins for a TD. 96 yard drive in 4 plays. Up 17-7

[Laker]

Burrow runs for a TD, LSU now trails 17-14

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LSU's ability to hit on big plays is uncanny. They're like the mid to late 90's Florida Gators or those old Al Davis Raider teams.

[Laker]

Another TD pass for LSU. Burrow has been getting enough time now. LSU up 21-17.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LSU has stormed back to take the lead! Burrow is lighting it up and Chase is having a MONSTER game. Game pressure now on Clemson...

[Laker]

Not sure why they didn't check it when the LSU back touched his hand out of bounce. Now they did check the catch and determined that the Clemson receiver touched out of bounds first. Just be consistent.

[Laker]

Now Clemson is the team missing tackles.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Burrow is awesome! Holy crap! The Bayou Bengals awoke with vengeance in the second quarter....

[Laker]

LSU scores again with ten seconds to go in the half. Now up 28-17. Burrows running has opened things up, and how he has the time to throw.

[Chalupa Batman]

Huge start of the half for Clemson. LSU getting another score to start the half could've been back breaking.

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Huge start of the half for Clemson. LSU getting another score to start the half could've been back breaking.

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Just like the start of the game, Clemson comes out crisp on both sides of the ball but LSU settles in and responds....

[Chalupa Batman]

Just like the start of the game, Clemson comes out crisp on both sides of the ball but LSU settles in and responds....Good point.

I expect Clemson to bring this game down to the wire yet.

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LSU passing game is just absurd. It's NFL level. There's always an opening to make a play given the skill of everyone involved....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LSU wins the national title with a very impressive 42-25 victory. This is definitely one of the best teams I've seen. '95 Nebraska, '01 Miami and probably '12 Alabama being the others. '95 Huskers are still tops in my eyes....

[Laker]

This game turned into a blowout. I told someone on Saturday that the best game of the entire weekend (including NFL) might be NDSU v JMU. And I was right.

[PaladinFan]

College football completely loses me with their timing. The second half kicked off at nearly 10:45 EST on a Monday night.

[JSUSoutherner]

College football completely loses me with their timing. The second half kicked off at nearly 10:45 EST on a Monday night.

Yeah trying to stay awake last night really really sucked.

They need to move it to a Friday or something at the very least. Not getting into bed until 12:30 and having to be up at 5 to go to work is a **** combo.

[Laker]

Yeah trying to stay awake last night really really sucked.

They need to move it to a Friday or something at the very least. Not getting into bed until 12:30 and having to be up at 5 to go to work is a **** combo.

I keep hearing people say that the day after the Super Bowl should be a national holiday. Instead, they should move it to Saturday night- same with the FBS title game. Putting this game on a Monday night is hard for working people and students, not to mention the fans of the teams who are playing.

[JSUSoutherner]

I keep hearing people say that the day after the Super Bowl should be a national holiday. Instead, they should move it to Saturday night- same with the FBS title game. Putting this game on a Monday night is hard for working people and students, not to mention the fans of the teams who are playing.

The reason the FBS game is on Monday is because of the NFL games.

Think if the Saints were still in. They avoid a very large logistical issue with the venue by playing Monday. However, I think Friday would be a good day because most people don't work Saturday and you still have 2 days to flip the stadium in case it's home team is still hanging around.

Superbowl Sunday is like Voting Day. It makes no freaking sense and everyone hates it being on the day of week it is on, but it's been that way forever so by gosh we ain't changing it.

[JayJ79]

Superbowl Sunday is like Voting Day. It makes no freaking sense and everyone hates it being on the day of week it is on, but it's been that way forever so by gosh we ain't changing it.
I've never had an issue with election day being on a Tuesday. It takes maybe half an hour tops to go in and vote (or maybe I'm just lucky. does it take longer in other places?), and it isn't really that tough to free up half an hour on that one day a year. And if it is going to be an issue, there is always the option to get an absentee ballot and submit it ahead of time.

Whole other story when it comes to football, since televised games these days take 4 hours

[ngineer]

College football completely loses me with their timing. The second half kicked off at nearly 10:45 EST on a Monday night.

Fully agree. I hung on, but getting up at 5:30 a.m. sucked. All the BS delaying the game pre-game, extra long tlme outs, and half time. Kick off should have been at 8 p.m. Game should have been over at 11 p.m.

[CHIP72]

I keep hearing people say that the day after the Super Bowl should be a national holiday. Instead, they should move it to Saturday night- same with the FBS title game. Putting this game on a Monday night is hard for working people and students, not to mention the fans of the teams who are playing.

IMO, the Super Bowl should remain on a Sunday. It usually ends by about 10 PM ET, which is not overly late for people in the Eastern Time Zone. If the Super Bowl game time needs an adjustment, the best solution is to start it about 2 hours earlier (4:15 to 4:30 PM ET).

I wholeheartedly agree the DI-A/FBS championship game needs to be moved to a Saturday, probably starting around 7 PM ET. The real issue with doing that is the DI-A/FBS postseason schedule (playoff + bowls) would need to be significantly modified, plus the NFL controls Saturday during the first half of January. The DI-A/FBS title game would need to be played either the day before the NFL conference championship games or on the Saturday/weekend between the NFL conference title games and Super Bowl. The remainder of the DI-A/FBS postseason would need to be realigned to allow the championship game and to a lesser degree the semifinal games to be featured to a greater degree. To do that, IMO the best option is to play the semifinal games on New Year’s Day or the Saturday before Week 17 of the NFL regular season, and not play any bowl games after the semifinal games.


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[Laker]

MSU's Mark Dantonio has retired two weeks after qualifying for his $4.3-million retention bonus.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

MSU's Mark Dantonio has retired two weeks after qualifying for his $4.3-million retention bonus.

Cincinnati's Luke Fickell seems like the top candidate....

[Laker]

Cincinnati's Luke Fickell seems like the top candidate....

That is what has been trending. This is pretty late but he could make the move.

[Laker]

Tucker is going from Colorado to Michigan State. Legally he can do this- but earlier he was complaining about the transfer portal.

Why should coaches be able to break their contracts- for which they are handsomely paid- but then condemn students for going to another school.

I'll sit back and wait for someone to explain why that is OK.

"There Is No Transfer Portal In The Real World" -Mel Tucker, 4 Months Before Transferring Jobs https://barstoolsports.com/blog/1860370/there-is-no-transfer-portal-in-the-real-world-mel-tucker-4-months-before-transferring-jobs (https://t.co/SgzggcWVHQ?amp=1)

[Bisonoline]

Tucker is going from Colorado to Michigan State. Legally he can do this- but earlier he was complaining about the transfer portal.

Why should coaches be able to break their contracts- for which they are handsomely paid- but then condemn students for going to another school.

I'll sit back and wait for someone to explain why that is OK.

"There Is No Transfer Portal In The Real World" -Mel Tucker, 4 Months Before Transferring Jobs https://barstoolsports.com/blog/1860370/there-is-no-transfer-portal-in-the-real-world-mel-tucker-4-months-before-transferring-jobs (https://t.co/SgzggcWVHQ?amp=1)

Guys a hypocrite and likes to have complete control over his players.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Tucker is going from Colorado to Michigan State. Legally he can do this- but earlier he was complaining about the transfer portal.

Why should coaches be able to break their contracts- for which they are handsomely paid- but then condemn students for going to another school.

I'll sit back and wait for someone to explain why that is OK.

"There Is No Transfer Portal In The Real World" -Mel Tucker, 4 Months Before Transferring Jobs https://barstoolsports.com/blog/1860370/there-is-no-transfer-portal-in-the-real-world-mel-tucker-4-months-before-transferring-jobs (https://t.co/SgzggcWVHQ?amp=1)

First of all, unless they're paying me Nick Saban money I'm not leaving Boulder, CO for East Lansing, MI; and I really like the state of Michigan. Second, this further entrenches my belief that college football really doesn't matter much in Colorado.

[PAllen]

First of all, unless they're paying me Nick Saban money I'm not leaving Boulder, CO for East Lansing, MI; and I really like the state of Michigan. Second, this further entrenches my belief that college football really doesn't matter much in Colorado.

Don't underestimate the difficulty in keeping players clean in Colorado. I know more than a few defense contractors who have stopped actively recruiting at Colorado schools because of the extremely high number that come out with positive drug tests, thus company paid counselling etc, and no security clearance.

[Laker]

USC West is dropping UC-Davis from their 2021 schedule. They were getting complaints from their fans about playing a FCS team. Evidently USC, UCLA and Notre Dame are the only three FBS teams to have never played a FCS team. Now, I don't know how far back they go to make that distinction, but that is the claim.

https://www.conquestchronicles.com/football/2020/2/19/21144091/usc-football-to-cancel-2021-game-against-uc-davis

[JayJ79]

Evidently USC, UCLA and Notre Dame are the only three FBS teams to have never played a FCS team. Now, I don't know how far back they go to make that distinction, but that is the claim.
The most logical timeline would be to go back as far as 1978, when the "subdivisions" were formed, creating "I-AA", which eventually was renamed "FCS".
USC did play Montana a number of times in the first half of the 20th century

[Laker]

The most logical timeline would be to go back as far as 1978, when the "subdivisions" were formed, creating "I-AA", which eventually was renamed "FCS".
USC did play Montana a number of times in the first half of the 20th century

Yes, they were in the same conference until 1950. I guess that "never" probably means since 1978. So both USC & UCLA would have played them. I'm sure that Notre Dame was in the same situation. So it is interesting that fans would complain about it.

[JayJ79]

Yes, they were in the same conference until 1950. I guess that "never" probably means since 1978. So both USC & UCLA would have played them. I'm sure that Notre Dame was in the same situation. So it is interesting that fans would complain about it.
not really. There was no such thing as an "FCS team" prior to 1978 (technically prior to 2006, but I'm sure we can all agree that I-AA and FCS is the same damn thing).
Heck, if you look back far enough in many programs, you'll see games against high school teams and local YMCAs and the like, but I'd hardly think programs would want to schedule those type of games these days.

[Laker]

not really. There was no such thing as an "FCS team" prior to 1978 (technically prior to 2006, but I'm sure we can all agree that I-AA and FCS is the same damn thing).
Heck, if you look back far enough in many programs, you'll see games against high school teams and local YMCAs and the like, but I'd hardly think programs would want to schedule those type of games these days.

I'd probably do a cartwheel if any FCS school beat any of those three teams. Which would be amazing, because I've never done a cartwheel in my life..........

[JacksFan40]

USC West is dropping UC-Davis from their 2021 schedule. They were getting complaints from their fans about playing a FCS team. Evidently USC, UCLA and Notre Dame are the only three FBS teams to have never played a FCS team. Now, I don't know how far back they go to make that distinction, but that is the claim.

https://www.conquestchronicles.com/football/2020/2/19/21144091/usc-football-to-cancel-2021-game-against-uc-davis
I really can’t understand what is so bad about playing a decent FCS team, I’d say playing UC Davis would be better then playing a crappy G5 like Akron or San Jose State.

[JayJ79]

I really can’t understand what is so bad about playing a decent FCS team, I’d say playing UC Davis would be better then playing a crappy G5 like Akron or San Jose State.
It is all about optics and false reputation.

In reality, from a purely football aspect, the top FCS teams are much better than the bottom G5 teams that P5 teams love to schedule for their cupcake games. But the optics of it from a general fanbase standpoint, it looks much worse to lose to an FCS team, and they don't get as much credit to the FBS team for wins over FCS than they do for wins over the bottom-of-the-barrel G5 teams.

[Laker]

Could Illinois change their mascot to the Kingfisher?

https://footballscoop.com/news/could-we-be-on-the-verge-of-a-big-ten-program-changing-their-mascot/

[Bisonoline]

Could Illinois change their mascot to the Kingfisher?

https://footballscoop.com/news/could-we-be-on-the-verge-of-a-big-ten-program-changing-their-mascot/

JFC xsmhx

[Laker]

JFC xsmhx

Made me think of the Kingfish in Amos and Andy. So someone will complain about that too.

[PAllen]

Could Illinois change their mascot to the Kingfisher?

https://footballscoop.com/news/could-we-be-on-the-verge-of-a-big-ten-program-changing-their-mascot/

Better change the name of the state then. If these idiots spent half of the time and effort they waste on finding and fighting things to be attended abour on being productive, they would be much better off. They might even develop some truly amazing things.

[bonarae]

Lowest attendance since 1996.... xconfusedx xsmhx

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-must-innovate-as-fbs-attendance-dips-for-sixth-straight-year-to-lowest-since-1996/

[Laker]

Not directly football but Wisconsin isn't bringing back seniors for spring sports. They are feeling the pinch. Of course they are the only BIG school to not have baseball.

https://madison.com/wsj/sports/college/wisconsin-badgers-seniors-wont-return-to-spring-sports-in-2021-athletic-department-says/article_32a85306-19dc-5969-9a61-d6608992eea4.html

[Laker]

Well this is completely opposite of the CSU system. U-Cal system to be open in the fall.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/20/coronavirus-university-of-california-campuses-will-open-in-the-fall-napolitano-says/amp/

[cx500d]

Made me think of the Kingfish in Amos and Andy. So someone will complain about that too.
???

Tell us about the time when Old Hickory tried to buy Texas for $5M.

[Laker]

Breaking: University of Minnesota President Joan Gabel will recommend to the Board of Regents next week that fall classes be held in-person and residence halls be reopened. She will also suggest that each campus adjust their academic calendars to conclude by Thanksgiving.

[Laker]

Oregon and Oregon State have agreed to stop calling their rivalry game The Civil War. Now we can all be friends again.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29370252/oregon-oregon-state-dropping-civil-war-name-rivalry-games?linkId=91993820

[Laker]

Pac 12 joins the BIG in only playing conference games this fall.

https://pac-12.com/article/2020/07/10/pac-12-ceo-group-announces-decision-schedule-conference-only-play-several-fall

[bonarae]

Meanwhile... Harbaugh could've stayed put in Ann Arbor for a bit longer with a new contract but then COVID-19 happened...

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20200708163024537908308&ref=hea&tm=&src=

And... the ACC will wait until late July to decide on football.


Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner John Swofford says the league expects to make its decision on fall sports in "late July."
The league put out Swofford's statement Friday afternoon, saying the league has prepared "numerous scenarios" for fall competition over the last few months. The decision would come from the league's board of directors.
Earlier this week, the ACC delayed the start of fall competition until at least Sept. 1. That move impacts non-revenue programs like soccer, volleyball, field hockey and cross country, but not football for now. The first football game involving a league team is North Carolina State's trip to Louisville on Sept. 2.

[cx500d]

Pac 12 joins the BIG in only playing conference games this fall.

https://pac-12.com/article/2020/07/10/pac-12-ceo-group-announces-decision-schedule-conference-only-play-several-fall

There goes the NDSU game vs Oregon


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[bonarae]

Reopening this thread...

Looks like the Big 12 is self-destructing yet again. The Longhorns and the Sooners have contacted the SEC.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-powers-texas-oklahoma-inquire-about-joining-sec-in-potentially-massive-shakeup-per-reports/

[NHwildEcat]

We may need to rename this the P4 thread if this move happens.

[Daytripper]

Some guy on twitter suggested this for the leftover Big XII:


FOLKS, this is the realignment move right here:Baylor, Kansas, Kansas St, Iowa St, Texas Tech, TCU, Oklahoma St, West Virginia, BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, Memphis + Gonzaga and Wichita St for hoopsThat’s an ELITE basketball league and still probably a top 5 football league.


https://twitter.com/PostJimmer/status/1418222926650777605


https://twitter.com/PostJimmer/status/1418222926650777605

[Professor Chaos]

Reopening this thread...

Looks like the Big 12 is self-destructing yet again. The Longhorns and the Sooners have contacted the SEC.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-powers-texas-oklahoma-inquire-about-joining-sec-in-potentially-massive-shakeup-per-reports/
Coming out now that it's a lot more than just a feeler expressing interest:
https://twitter.com/kbohls/status/1418553992691466245
It'll be interesting to see the dominoes that fall because of this move. Does the Big 12 raid the AAC and MWC? Does the Big 12 survive? Do they make a play for Nebraska? In any case I'd suspect that the dominoes eventually fall to the FCS level with some conferences like the Mountain West, CUSA, Sun Belt, etc looking for new members.

[WestCoastAggie]

Coming out now that it's a lot more than just a feeler expressing interest:
https://twitter.com/kbohls/status/1418553992691466245
It'll be interesting to see the dominoes that fall because of this move. Does the Big 12 raid the AAC and MWC? Does the Big 12 survive? Do they make a play for Nebraska? In any case I'd suspect that the dominoes eventually fall to the FCS level with some conferences like the Mountain West, CUSA, Sun Belt, etc looking for new members.

Any FCS program that has its eyes on FBS better be getting their house in order now. Increase those student fees, start those capital campaigns, woo the AAC, C-USA, and Sun Belt officials.

For fans, buckle up! It's going to be a bumpy ride through 2025.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

A storm of forfeitures coming? xconfusedx

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/power-five-conferences-mostly-align-on-forfeiture-policy-if-teams-cannot-play-in-2021-due-to-covid-19/

[bonarae]

The B1G, Pac-12 and ACC deal may be coming today.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-acc-pac-12-alliance-expected-to-be-announced-tuesday-per-reports/

[bonarae]

Why is SEC still disturbing the peace of the new alliance?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/short-on-details-but-long-on-philosophy-alliance-of-big-ten-acc-pac-12-sends-message-to-sec-back-off/

[bonarae]

Have we scheduled the last of our FCS-P5 FBS games? xsmhx

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/secs-greg-sankey-big-12s-bob-bowlsby-respond-to-big-ten-acc-pac-12-announcing-alliance-formation/

[JayJ79]

Meanwhile...

A storm of forfeitures coming? xconfusedx
I prefer such games (when one team cancels) be declared forfeit rather than "no contest"

[Laker]

The 12 Pac says that they won't expand, while the Big Dozen says that they will look into it. The last time they had a list of 20 schools. This time it depends on if they want to go to 10-12-14 or 16.

Potential targets (alphabetically, not in my choice of order):

Boise State
BYU
Cincinnati
Colorado State
Houston
Memphis
UCF
USF

[wapiti]

https://www.kbzk.com/sports/acc-big-ten-pac-12-form-alliance-for-athletics-scheduling

I find it interesting that the SEC was left out of this alliance.

[NY Crusader 2010]

The 12 Pac says that they won't expand, while the Big Dozen says that they will look into it. The last time they had a list of 20 schools. This time it depends on if they want to go to 10-12-14 or 16.

Potential targets (alphabetically, not in my choice of order):

Boise State
BYU
Cincinnati
Colorado State
Houston
Memphis
UCF
USF

I think that's basically it right there -- IMO they definitely will add a couple teams east of the Mississippi. UCF and USF make a ton of sense to solidify a footprint in the talent-rich (and growing) state of Florida. These 2 and Cincinnati will all be invited if I had to guess. After that, I think Colorado State will get invited as well.

[JayJ79]

https://www.kbzk.com/sports/acc-big-ten-pac-12-form-alliance-for-athletics-scheduling

I find it interesting that the SEC was left out of this alliance.
seems fairly obvious to me that the whole point of the alliance was to counter the SEC after their poaching of Texas and Okie

[MR. CHICKEN]

seems fairly obvious to me that the whole point of the alliance was to counter the SEC after their poaching of Texas and Okie

..........EGGZAKLEE JAY.......BUT IT'S OWNLAH...UH GENTLEMENS AGREEMENT.....FO' TIME BEIN'..........BRAWK!

[NY Crusader 2010]

seems fairly obvious to me that the whole point of the alliance was to counter the SEC after their poaching of Texas and Okie

Yes, that's exactly what it is.

[POD Knows]

Illinois and Nebraska are hot garbage. God that was an ugly half of football.

[Reign of Terrier]

The second half was good.

[Laker]

Illinois and Nebraska are hot garbage. God that was an ugly half of football.

I haven't seen a dumber punt returner than the one who gave up a safety for Nebraska. The whole sequence went from bad to worse.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The 12 Pac says that they won't expand, while the Big Dozen says that they will look into it. The last time they had a list of 20 schools. This time it depends on if they want to go to 10-12-14 or 16.

Potential targets (alphabetically, not in my choice of order):

Boise State
BYU
Cincinnati
Colorado State
Houston
Memphis
UCF
USF

This list helps to illustrate how poorly Temple athletics has been managed the last 3-5 years or so. Temple has a historically successful men's basketball program, a football program that has strong ties to the "Eastern Powers", calls Philadelphia home, has a very good academic reputation (relatively speaking) yet are completely off radar when it comes to "Moving on up to the East Side". That's an institutional failure! It also shows Fran Dunphy's ambition level to close out his professional career. He went through the motions as a head coach and brought that same "enthusiasm" to the "Acting AD" role....

[NY Crusader 2010]

Would you want to see Temple in the Big 12?

I think Temple should be happy exactly where they are. Especially after getting kicked out of the old Big East, surviving as an independent, surviving I-AA declassification rumors, rebuilding in the MAC and then ultimately getting invited into the "new" Big East which turned into the AAC. And then winning an AAC Championship.

The AAC is not going to crumble -- even if they lose Cincinnati, UCF and USF, there's still a lot of good meat on the bone and at least 5-6 solid options to replace those schools with.

[bonarae]

SEC has a double loss forfeit policy that results from cancellations related to COVID-19.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/sec-establishes-forfeit-policies-for-college-football-games-canceled-due-to-covid-19/

[Gil Dobie]

https://scontent.ffcm1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/240773404_4221632941257412_4653532410709910341_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=b4jLkjZoF5IAX9Lq6gN&tn=bgxbddBIopBG9Asq&_nc_ht=scontent.ffcm1-2.fna&oh=1da173c372b5e8c04c460878a682f9d8&oe=6151F16A

[POD Knows]

The second half was good.Yea, it was a lot better but they both suck

[JacksFan40]

Minnesota playing competitive with #4 Ohio State, 31-21 in early 4th Quarter.

[Digby]

Fire Franklin!

[MR. CHICKEN]

Fire Franklin!


...........FIRE DIGBY......16-10.......BRAWK!

[JacksFan40]

I’ll still never understand why Miami is constantly ranked at the start of every season. That program has accomplished nothing in recent years.

[bonarae]

The Seattle Huskies are not performing well... they were pummeled by Michigan in Ann Arbor. Fire Lake is coming?

[Professor Chaos]

This Calzada guy for Texas A&M better never have to buy a beer for himself in College Station the rest of his life.

[bonarae]

While Texas A&M was able to dump the Tide, the Huskers could not tumble the Wolverines.

[JacksFan40]

While Texas A&M was able to dump the Tide, the Huskers could not tumble the Wolverines.
Nebraska is 3-4 and could just as easily be 7-0 and in the thick of the playoff race if a couple of things would’ve went their way. Frost has them making big progress, he just needs a marquee win now.

[JSUSoutherner]

Tennessee fans are dog****.

[Laker]

Tennessee fans are dog****.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FB30h0KXEAUIeRw?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Chalupa Batman]

Purdue football with the tweet of the year.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211017/6030918a00c4f79859baf220036bd2f8.jpg

[bonarae]

Ed Orgeron is out at LSU at the end of the season.

https://www.nfl.com/news/lsu-head-coach-ed-orgeron-out-at-end-of-2021-season

[bonarae]

Over on the FCS Fans board on FB, there is chatter on a possible replacement from the FCS for Wazzu firing 5 football coaches due to their refusal of COVID-19 vaccine... xcoffeex

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/washington-state-coach-nick-rolovich-four-assistants-fired-for-cause-over-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/

[JacksFan40]

Kansas is beating #3 Oklahoma 10-0 at halftime. Kansas is 38.5 point underdogs right now. Would definitely be one of the biggest upsets in recent memory. But I don't think Kansas will hang on, but we shall see.

[POD Knows]

Kansas is beating #3 Oklahoma 10-0 at halftime. Kansas is 38.5 point underdogs right now. Would definitely be one of the biggest upsets in recent memory. But I don't think Kansas will hang on, but we shall see.
I watched that first half. Maybe one of the most disciplined half’s of football I have seen in a while by Oklahoma. Kansas is playing not to lose now so they will lose big in the second half.

[JacksFan40]

I watched that first half. Maybe one of the most disciplined half’s of football I have seen in a while by Oklahoma. Kansas is playing not to lose now so they will lose big in the second half.
Oklahoma brought it to 10-7 and Kansas answered right back to make it 17-7. The Jayhawks aren't going down lightly.

[Chalupa Batman]

Oklahoma brought it to 10-7 and Kansas answered right back to make it 17-7. The Jayhawks aren't going down lightly.

‘Yotes played tougher in Lawrence than the Sooners are lol

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

How's that for a NINE overtime game? xeekx

Illinois takes down Penn State.

[Laker]

Meanwhile...

How's that for a NINE overtime game? xeekx

Illinois takes down Penn State.

This reminds me of bowling scores from two small children.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCeArQLWQA0WvaG?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[bonarae]

Is Harbaugh's seat the hottest it has ever been during his time in Ann Arbor?

Can Michigan replace him with an SEC assistant, perhaps? They've tried G5, didn't work. They've tried the other P5 HC route, didn't work either.

[Laker]

From Brett McMurphy.

TCU & coach Gary Patterson have mutually parted ways, effective immediately. Jerry Kill will be interim coach. Patterson was nation’s 2nd longest current tenured coach behind only Kirk Ferentz at Iowa. In 22 years at TCU, Patterson was 181-79 w/17 bowl games

[JayJ79]

Meanwhile...

How's that for a NINE overtime game? xeekx

Illinois takes down Penn State.
looks crazy on the box score, but thanks to the new rule change, those OT3 through OT9 periods only consisted of 14 total plays.
and under the old system (or for OT1 or OT2), there could quite easily be 14 players or more in just one OT session.

So a "9 OT" game with the new rules might have the same number of OT plays as a "3 OT" game under the old rules.

[Laker]

Kelly Gramlich@kellygramlich
(https://twitter.com/kellygramlich)
As of Fall 2021, Wake Forest has an undergraduate enrollment of 5,441. On Saturday, 4,233 WF students attended the Deacs football game vs. Duke. Add in 128 football players & the total was 4,361.80% of Wake's student body was at Truist Field on Saturday. That's pretty crazy.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Kansas goes into Austin and takes down Texas! This was the Jayhawks first Big 12 road win since.......2008!! Things are amazingly getting worse at Texas. What a dumpster fire....

I posted this with the assumption Texas was out of timeouts....

Texas just scored!! wow....did I curse the Jayhawks...lol

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Whelp, Kansas and Texas are going to overtime. Man, did I jump the gun. I wanted Kansas to win so bad when i heard the 2008 stat....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Kansas goes for 2 and gets it! They win 57-56 in OT!!

[Laker]

Virginia Tech will reportedly owe Justin Fuente $10 million for firing him before December 15. If they waited until that date they only would have had to pay 7.5 million. If college athletics can waste 2.5 million dollars to pay someone for not working, they have too many dollars and not enough sense.

[JacksFan40]

Virginia Tech will reportedly owe Justin Fuente $10 million for firing him before December 15. If they waited until that date they only would have had to pay 7.5 million. If college athletics can waste 2.5 million dollars to pay someone for not working, they have too many dollars and not enough sense.

In all honesty this a terrible year to fire a coach. The coaching carousel is stacked with teams right now, meaning that the good coaches will be gone fairly quickly. No way does VT expect to beat out LSU, USC, or Florida for coaching hires.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile... Dan Mullen says goodbye as well.

https://www.nfl.com/news/dan-mullen-florida-parts-ways-with-head-coach-after-four-seasons

[JayJ79]

Kansas goes for 2 and gets it! They win 57-56 in OT!!
So Texas got beat at home by a team whose fans storm the field after they beat an FCS team.
wow

[Laker]

Considering that I have no ties to either team, Utah pounding Oregon was very satisfying to watch.

[bonarae]

Michigan stuns the Buckeyes for its first rivalry win since 2011!

[bulldog10jw]

Kansas goes for 2 and gets it! They win 57-56 in OT!!

That's what Auburn should have done today in the first OT. Instead, they lose in the 4th OT to Alabama.

The more I see this two point conversion crap after the first two overtimes, the more I hate it.

[bonarae]

Ed Orgeron is out at LSU at the end of the season.

https://www.nfl.com/news/lsu-head-coach-ed-orgeron-out-at-end-of-2021-season

He goes out a winner; will an FCS or a G5 hire him?

[Chalupa Batman]

Whoa!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32737893/lincoln-riley-leaving-oklahoma-become-usc-head-football-coach-sources-say%3fplatform=amp

Sounds like Bob Stoops is pulling a Barry Alvarez and coming out of retirement to coach the bowl game.

[grizband]

ESPN reporting that Lincoln Riley will become the new head coach at USC, and Brian Kelley will leave Notre Dame to coach at LSU.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

ESPN reporting that Lincoln Riley will become the new head coach at USC, and Brian Kelley will leave Notre Dame to coach at LSU.

The Brian Kelly to LSU just shocks the hell out of me for numerous reasons. Most of all the culture clash that's going to exist. I can't see him surviving Cajun Country....

Fickell seems to be a strong candidate for the ND job. Could two playoff teams be without their head coaches? Would both teams be left out if their "normal" coach isn't there?

[JacksFan40]

The Brian Kelly to LSU just shocks the hell out of me for numerous reasons. Most of all the culture clash that's going to exist. I can't see him surviving Cajun Country....

Fickell seems to be a strong candidate for the ND job. Could two playoff teams be without their head coaches? Would both teams be left out if their "normal" coach isn't there?
I guarantee Cincinnati would be left out if Fickell leaves. Notre Dame is harder to say.

If Cincinnati beats Houston I think Fickell stays, but if they lose he’ll be gone the minute they reach the locker room.

[bonarae]

UGA loses to Alabama. They were caught napping...

[Laker]

Most losses all time in #CFB (https://twitter.com/hashtag/CFB?src=hashtag_click)
Indiana- 698
Northwestern- 686
Rutgers- 677
Wake Forest- 672
Tulane- 669
Kansas- 668
Iowa State- 664
Kansas State- 663
New Mexico State- 659
Vanderbilt- 649 Rice- 638
Kentucky- 636 Virginia- 626
New Mexico- 623
UTEP/Oregon State/UMass- 621

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Texas A&M will not play in the Gator Bowl...

I have to believe a lot of these bowl are simply not going to happen....

[Laker]

Texas A&M will not play in the Gator Bowl...

I have to believe a lot of these bowl are simply not going to happen....

I wonder if they can convince another team to come. It would have to be a team that has already played in a bowl. Or I could nominate South Dakota State or James Madison- they have been practicing lately.

[bonarae]

I wonder if they can convince another team to come. It would have to be a team that has already played in a bowl. Or I could nominate South Dakota State or James Madison- they have been practicing lately.

Perhaps Princeton or Dartmouth, if the Presidents consent?

[Laker]

Perhaps Princeton or Dartmouth, if the Presidents consent?

I would love it, but it would be more likely that I got an orange unicorn for Christmas. Or that Lieka Martens picks me up for a date.

[Laker]

The latest rumor is Rutgers.

[FUBeAR]

An FCS Team has thrown their name in the mix…

https://twitter.com/gojsutigersfb/status/1473759079181000707

[JacksFan40]

An FCS Team has thrown their name in the mix…

https://twitter.com/gojsutigersfb/status/1473759079181000707
Yeah that one would get real ugly, real quick.

[Laker]

Yeah that one would get real ugly, real quick.

After seeing what SC State did to them I agree.

[Laker]

Army beats Mizzou by two as time runs out on a long field goal.

[JayJ79]

Army beats Mizzou by two as time runs out on a long field goal.

Missouri had a wide open receiver on their 2-pt conversion attempt, and I didn't see that much pressure on the QB after he rolled out, but he had a terrible throw.
game shoulda went to OT
That being said, I don't like Missouri, so I'm happy to see Army get the win

[POD Knows]

An FCS Team has thrown their name in the mix…

https://twitter.com/gojsutigersfb/status/1473759079181000707
Who the hell do they think they are. What arrogance. They got their asses handed to them in their bowl game. They should lick their wounds and STFU.

[JacksFan40]

Who the hell do they think they are. What arrogance. They got their asses handed to them in their bowl game. They should lick their wounds and STFU.
Not only that but they would get absolutely leveled by Wake Forest. ACC runner ups and one of the most explosive offenses in CFB versus a team who couldn’t beat 6-5 SC State.

[POD Knows]

Not only that but they would get absolutely leveled by Wake Forest. ACC runner ups and one of the most explosive offenses in CFB versus a team who couldn’t beat 6-5 SC State.
Yea. After I posted I thought, yea, let the arrogant clowns play. Maybe they need humble pie in multiple doses

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Not only that but they would get absolutely leveled by Wake Forest. ACC runner ups and one of the most explosive offenses in CFB versus a team who couldn’t beat 6-5 SC State.

It was be extremely disrespectful for Wake Forest to have to risk injury against an opponent of Jackson State's caliber. I remember when people were pushing for Steve McNair and Alcorn State to gain bowl eligibility in 1994. Mercifully that did not happen...

I think Rutgers is a bit of joke too. Granted, I realize there simply is not a good answer given the circumstances and bowl saturation.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Do you think the rest of the bowl schedule will receive cancellations scattered among the games?

I hope Michigan and Cincinnati (the latter is G5 sorry) will play their respective games in the CFP. xprayx

[JayJ79]

what do people think about Florida's onside kick strategy from the Gasparilla Bowl?: kicking the ball hard directly at one of the players 10 yards away, hoping that it bounces back toward your players for them to recover

https://twitter.com/CowardlyDoggo/status/1474207719645007876

[FUBeAR]

what do people think about Florida's onside kick strategy from the Gasparilla Bowl?: kicking the ball hard directly at one of the players 10 yards away, hoping that it bounces back toward your players for them to recover

https://twitter.com/CowardlyDoggo/status/1474207719645007876FUBeAR is a fan…Mercer did it 2 weeks in a row.
https://twitter.com/mercerfootball/status/1459707242740166662
https://twitter.com/mercerfootball/status/1462161822358941699

[JayJ79]

does the ball still have to travel 10 yards down the field from where it was kicked off from before the kicking team can recover it?
For instance, if the receiving team player had advanced a yard or 2 before the ball hits them (thus meaning the kick only traveled 8-9 yards downfield) could the kicking team still recover it? Or is it anyone's ball once the receiving team player contacted it regardless of how far it traveled?

[Laker]

does the ball still have to travel 10 yards down the field from where it was kicked off from before the kicking team can recover it?
For instance, if the receiving team player had advanced a yard or 2 before the ball hits them (thus meaning the kick only traveled 8-9 yards downfield) could the kicking team still recover it? Or is it anyone's ball once the receiving team player contacted it regardless of how far it traveled?

If the receiving team touches the ball before it goes ten yards- yes, the kicking team can recover it. I watched a game when the ball only went about five yards- receiver picked it up and ran it in for a TD when the kicking team let up expecting a penalty.

[bonarae]

Uh oh. Military Bowl and Fenway Bowl are both let go.

https://fbschedules.com/military-bowl-fenway-bowl-canceled-due-to-covid-19-protocols/

[Laker]

Miami has withdrawn from the Sun Bowl against Washington State.

[Laker]

Brett McMurphy@Brett_McMurphy
(https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy)27m (https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1475269607661395969)

Sun Bowl still seeking replacement as of Sunday night for Miami, source told @ActionNetworkHQ (https://twitter.com/ActionNetworkHQ)
. However, it won’t be Memphis, SMU or East Carolina, the 3 teams impacted by canceled bowls. Each program said their seasons were done after their respective bowls were recently canceled

[bonarae]

Brett McMurphy@Brett_McMurphy
(https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy)27m (https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1475269607661395969)

Sun Bowl still seeking replacement as of Sunday night for Miami, source told @ActionNetworkHQ (https://twitter.com/ActionNetworkHQ)
. However, it won’t be Memphis, SMU or East Carolina, the 3 teams impacted by canceled bowls. Each program said their seasons were done after their respective bowls were recently canceled



Maybe cancel it outright? xchinscratchx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Might as well just say it's cancelled. I can't see CBS having enough to pull to convince a team to head to El Paso on short notice.

There will be more bowls to cancel anyway. This will be forgotten when the next domino falls....

[walliver]

I wonder how these cancellations affect coaching contracts which offer bonuses for bowl appearances.

[FUBeAR]

I wonder how these cancellations affect coaching contracts which offer bonuses for bowl appearances.
Contract verbiage will, most likely, be determining factor. If we rely on the info here - https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2021/11/08/college-football-coaches-bonus-pay-salary-2021/6161684001/ - we can interpolate that “eligibility” and “selection” are the operative words. Actually playing the game is irrelevant and meaningless…just like the games (except for 3 of them).

[Laker]

Central Michigan, which was already in Tucson, has been released from Arizona Bowl & will play Washington State in Sun Bowl at noon ET Friday in El Paso sources told @ActionNetworkHQ (https://twitter.com/ActionNetworkHQ)
. Arizona is 4th bowl canceled because of COVID issues along w/Hawaii, Fenway & Military

[JayJ79]

I wonder how these cancellations affect coaching contracts which offer bonuses for bowl appearances.
do the schools/athletic depts receive money for playing in a bowl? If so, do they receive the same amount of money for being selected to play in a bowl but that bowl gets cancelled? (I can't imagine the payouts would be the same if the game isn't actually played).

[Bisonoline]

do the schools/athletic depts receive money for playing in a bowl? If so, do they receive the same amount of money for being selected to play in a bowl but that bowl gets cancelled? (I can't imagine the payouts would be the same if the game isn't actually played).

All the bowl money is co-opted. Some conferences have numerous teams in bowl games. So ALL the money goes in to the conference pool and divided accordingly.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holiday Bowl has been cancelled due to Covid issues at UCLA. This was 4 hours before kickoff....

[FUBeAR]

Holiday Bowl has been cancelled due to Covid issues at UCLA. This was 4 hours before kickoff....
Traffic on The 5 must’ve been bad…

…and the mother of UCLA’s QB prophesies the future of college Football…

https://twitter.com/mtrobinson/status/1475926759006629889

[Laker]

Gophers beat West Virginia 18-6. The highlight of the game was when the giant offensive tackle from Australia scored a TD on a run a la Refrigerator Perry. The game was more one sided than the score. They stupidly left the roof open for the pregame and players were sliding all night after they closed the barn door. Someone didn't watch a weather report.

[POD Knows]

Gophers beat West Virginia 18-6. The highlight of the game was when the giant offensive tackle from Australia scored a TD on a run a la Refrigerator Perry. The game was more one sided than the score. They stupidly left the roof open for the pregame and players were sliding all night after they closed the barn door. Someone didn't watch a weather report.
Yea. Watched some of it. The Goofers were a much better team and a lot more physical.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Yea. Watched some of it. The Goofers were a much better team and a lot more physical.

PJ Fleck has built a good program in the Twin Cities. Can he elevate the Goofers to the point of actually winning the west thus giving them a one game shot to beat Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State or Penn State; thus getting them into legit playoff conversation?

[MR. CHICKEN]

PJ Fleck has built a good program in the Twin Cities. Can he elevate the Goofers to the point of actually winning the west thus giving them a one game shot to beat Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State or Penn State; thus getting them into legit playoff conversation?


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[JayJ79]

The officials need to do a better job about enforcing the rules about when bands can play (or piped in music for that matter).
False start penalties should not be called while a band (or PA music) is playing. The first time it happens (or when an official notices that the band/music is playing when the offense is at the line and giving the snap count), the officials should whistle the play dead (no play) and issue a warning.
And if it happens again at any time that game, it should be a 15 yard penalty. (similar to how sideline warnings work)

[Laker]

The officials need to do a better job about enforcing the rules about when bands can play (or piped in music for that matter).
False start penalties should not be called while a band (or PA music) is playing. The first time it happens (or when an official notices that the band/music is playing when the offense is at the line and giving the snap count), the officials should whistle the play dead (no play) and issue a warning.
And if it happens again at any time that game, it should be a 15 yard penalty. (similar to how sideline warnings work)

YES! That happened to Iowa State last night when the Clemson band was playing. I knew before the announcers that Campbell wasn't claiming that the Tigers moved first- I could hear the band playing and thought "how do they get by with that?" He was furious and had to waste a time out that he could have used later. The officials didn't seem to give a crap.

[JayJ79]

YES! That happened to Iowa State last night when the Clemson band was playing. I knew before the announcers that Campbell wasn't claiming that the Tigers moved first- I could hear the band playing and thought "how do they get by with that?" He was furious and had to waste a time out that he could have used later. The officials didn't seem to give a crap.

yeah, that's what prompted my complaint.

[bonarae]

We just hope both CFP semifinals won't be cancelled... xprayx

[Laker]

Heck of an OT win for Purdue over Tennessee. Controversial 4th down stop of the Vols when it looked like they had scored.

[bonarae]

Ugh. Michigan getting pounded by a recovered UGA. xsmhx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The only sport with a worst postseason than college football (that i'm aware of) is NASCAR. That's saying something...

ESPN who really created this trainwreck of a bowl/playoff system better figure something out. Hopefully Fox and CBS can increase their input if the NCAA is going to be completely phased out of big time college football. Notre Dame needs NBC to step up their game. If I'm the Irish I'd be open to NBC working with some "like minded" institutions to promote a certain college football mission that might be a bit different than the SEC.

[Laker]

Both semifinals are disappointing. On both of the losing teams, the defenses are worn out by the failure of their offense to control the ball.

I hope that the final is more fun than this. I'm switching to watch Clint Eastwood as Joe Kidd. I first saw that movie as a college freshman on a Thursday night during football season with my teammate.

[bonarae]

Do you think the B1G is overrated? xchinscratchx

[Bisonator]

Do you think the B1G is overrated? xchinscratchx
Always has been, but not much different then every other conference. Other then Alabama which is the other SEC team that dominates year in and year out? I'm guessing Georgia will be back in the pack again next year too.

[caribbeanhen]

Let’s see an FCS All Star team play Alabama

[UNHWildcat18]

I feel like even if the other teams have enough talent at QB RB TE WR CB S…… the top 2 sec teams every year are just too strong at OL DL LB. That was the difference in the bama game IMO. Bamas lines were just too good for cincy. Didn’t watch the Georgia Michigan game

[dewey]

The Notre Dame vs Oklahoma State game has been really good. OSU was down 28-7 with 123 to go 2nd quarter.

Oklahoma State scores 30 straight points.

Dewey

[Bisonoline]

Let’s see an FCS All Star team play Alabama

All star teams never play well together.

[caribbeanhen]

All star teams never play well together.

Yea, but I like gimmicky stuff

remember the college All American team vs Super Bowl Champs game?

Well, when I was a kid I loved these games and willing to at least like em again

[POD Knows]

I feel like even if the other teams have enough talent at QB RB TE WR CB S…… the top 2 sec teams every year are just too strong at OL DL LB. That was the difference in the bama game IMO. Bamas lines were just too good for cincy. Didn’t watch the Georgia Michigan game
The self proclaimed best offensive Oline of Michigan got their **** pushed in big time by Georgia.

[FUBeAR]

Let’s see an FCS All Star team play AlabamaFUBeAR knows an FCS non-All Star Team that more than doubled up what a Top 4 FBS put on mighty Alabama…yet was not deemed good enough to participate in the MVFC-Big Sky Invitational FCS Post-Season Tournament.

An FCS All Star Team with 4 weeks to prepare would be much more competitive with Alabama than UC was…and might even win.

[POD Knows]

This receiver Smith H #11 for OSU is freaking unconscious. 300 plus yards receiving. It is a pretty impressive display.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Yea, but I like gimmicky stuff

remember the college All American team vs Super Bowl Champs game?

Well, when I was a kid I loved these games and willing to at least like em again


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...AH REMEMBER..........."CHICAGO COLLEGE ALL-STAR GAME"........THAT WAS PLAYED FROM 1934-1976....FOR CHARITY...PITTED THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S NFL CHAMP VS AN ASSEMBLED TEAM OF
COLLEGE ALL-STARS.......ALWAYS PLAYED @ SOLDIER FIELD EXCEPT........TWO GAMES THAT WERE ACTUALLY PLAYED @ NORTHWESTERN....TOTAL UH 42 GAMES...(NO GAME IN 1974 DUE TO NFL PLAYER STRIKE)......PRO'S WON 31 TIMES......ALL-STARS 9.....2 TIES..........PER WIKI...........BRAWK!

ps........AH BELIEVE TUBBY COACHED IN......AT LEAST ONE..... AS....AN ASSISSTANT COACH.........FOR ALL-STARS.....AWK!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

IMO, the traditional New Year's Day bowl setup is still superior to the playoffs. Today was, overall, a very good day and felt a bit "like it should" given the era we live in.

[JayJ79]

IMO, the traditional New Year's Day bowl setup is still superior to the playoffs. Today was, overall, a very good day and felt a bit "like it should" given the era we live in.

depends what your overall goal is. the traditional bowl setup awards participation trophies to multiple teams who can name themselves "______ Bowl Champions", then have different people claiming different teams to be "national champions" because it isn't ever truly proved on the field.

the CFP does a better job of having the "national championship" proved on the field instead of by pollsters. Though it is still possible to have contention if a team that some feel is a legitimate contender is left out of that field of 4.

[caribbeanhen]

FUBeAR knows an FCS non-All Star Team that more than doubled up what a Top 4 FBS put on mighty Alabama…yet was not deemed good enough to participate in the MVFC-Big Sky Invitational FCS Post-Season Tournament.

An FCS All Star Team with 4 weeks to prepare would be much more competitive with Alabama than UC was…and might even win.

For FCS WR’s

I would put these 5 out there
Dixon Nichols
Ezzard Sam Houston
Wells JMU
Hudson Central Arkansas
Watson North Dakota State

QB
Berriere Eastern Washington

when his arm gets sore run Kelly SLU out there

lets see what happens

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

depends what your overall goal is. the traditional bowl setup awards participation trophies to multiple teams who can name themselves "______ Bowl Champions", then have different people claiming different teams to be "national champions" because it isn't ever truly proved on the field.

the CFP does a better job of having the "national championship" proved on the field instead of by pollsters. Though it is still possible to have contention if a team that some feel is a legitimate contender is left out of that field of 4.

The overall bowl system is still awful. I'm only speaking of the NYD bowls and the quality of those games today; Ole Mis vs Baylor has been a great nightcap.

The problem with college football is there's simply not parity nor will there ever be. The "truth" has hurt the sport as much, if not more than the old "argue about it and vote" days of old. If you go back to some years there was a legit 5 or 6 teams that were in "contention" for at least a share if the dominoes fell right. I agree in some ways that it was hokey, but hokey can stir a lot of interest if the production quality is good enough. NYD was the perfect theater....

[Laker]

The Notre Dame vs Oklahoma State game has been really good. OSU was down 28-7 with 123 to go 2nd quarter.

Oklahoma State scores 30 straight points.

Dewey

I loved it!

[CHIP72]

depends what your overall goal is. the traditional bowl setup awards participation trophies to multiple teams who can name themselves "______ Bowl Champions", then have different people claiming different teams to be "national champions" because it isn't ever truly proved on the field.

the CFP does a better job of having the "national championship" proved on the field instead of by pollsters. Though it is still possible to have contention if a team that some feel is a legitimate contender is left out of that field of 4.

I've posted this elsewhere but I'll post it here as well. Here's my outline of a DI-A/FBS playoff system that I think would work well:

*16 team playoff

*Top 7 ranked conference champions earn automatic bids

*Any conference champion not among the top 7 conference champions can earn access to the playoff by finishing in the top 24 (or top 20, the cutoff can be tweaked) in the final, pre-playoff rankings

*Rest of the playoff teams are selected by a committee as at-large teams

*Campus/home team sites used in first round, quarterfinals, and semifinals; championship game played at a neutral site

*Regular season shortened by one week, conference championship games played one week earlier

*First round playoff games on second Saturday in December

*Quarterfinal playoff games on third Saturday in December

*Semifinal playoff games either on January 1st or last Saturday in December/first Saturday in January

*Championship game held on the Saturday before the NFL conference championship games or the Saturday of the weekend between the NFL conference title games and Super Bowl

*First round losers assigned to/eligible for one of four bowl games played on either 12/31 or 1/1

*Quarterfinal losers assigned to/eligible for one of two bowl games played on either 12/31 or 1/1

*Minor bowls not affected, still scheduled as they currently are

[walliver]

I personally prefer a 6 team playoff. The 5 P5 champions (I would define it as the 5 conferences with best performance over pervious 5 years, but it would have the same effect) with one at-large teams. Losers of P5 conference championship games would not be eligible, effectively making conference championships a de facto first round, so it would really be a 11 team playoff. You could even have two at-large teams play early in a playoff game, getting it to 12.

What is more likely to happen is the top four teams in a 16 team SEC play conference semifinals and then a championship game. The ACC, PAC10, B1G, and B12 play their own bowl playoff system. Each group sells rights to their own playoffs to the highest bidder. Everybody claims to be national champions.

[atthewbon]

I know this year didn't help the argument that the CFP should be expanded but it's going to happen eventually (there's to much money to be made). I hope they go to a 12, 16, or 24 team playoff with some sort of guarantees for conference champions. I personally prefer 24 team playoff with all conference champs getting in. Seed all of the teams 1-24. First and Second round are played on campus (16 total games on campus) then the quarterfinals and semifinals are made up of the NY6 bowls, 6 games for the 6 bowls, you can rotate them if you want. Yea there will be some blowouts but we'll see a lot of interesting games that really matter. We see a fair few of blowouts in the 4 team playoff regardless. Plus in the long run I think it'll bring some more parity. I doubt this happens especially with it looking like the FBS (and college football in general) will undergo dramatic restructuring in the next couple of years but I think it would be so much better than the current system. For reference this is what it would have looked like this year: https://twitter.com/cfbplayoffedits/status/1206980194956906496?s=10

[bonarae]

UGA wins against Bama... xcoffeex

Good thing they're not putting Yale down south in 2029 as planned years ago. xbawlingx

Maybe Kennesaw State should take the Elis' place? xchinscratchx

[Gil Dobie]

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...AH REMEMBER..........."CHICAGO COLLEGE ALL-STAR GAME"........THAT WAS PLAYED FROM 1934-1976....FOR CHARITY...PITTED THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S NFL CHAMP VS AN ASSEMBLED TEAM OF
COLLEGE ALL-STARS.......ALWAYS PLAYED @ SOLDIER FIELD EXCEPT........TWO GAMES THAT WERE ACTUALLY PLAYED @ NORTHWESTERN....TOTAL UH 42 GAMES...(NO GAME IN 1974 DUE TO NFL PLAYER STRIKE)......PRO'S WON 31 TIMES......ALL-STARS 9.....2 TIES..........PER WIKI...........BRAWK!

ps........AH BELIEVE TUBBY COACHED IN......AT LEAST ONE..... AS....AN ASSISSTANT COACH.........FOR ALL-STARS.....AWK!

The Jackie Robinson program, nice choice.

[Laker]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI0hYodXEAEds3N?format=jpg&name=medium

[Laker]

Never did figure out why they had to have hats ready immediately after the game. Either he didn't look at which box he took it from or this is a giant troll job.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIy_pz4XoAQbRHB?format=jpg&name=medium

[MR. CHICKEN]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI0hYodXEAEds3N?format=jpg&name=medium


...COACH CAN SKY.....xeekx.....BRAWK!

[Laker]

...COACH CAN SKY.....xeekx.....BRAWK!

He can be a celebrity dunker at the NBA All Star game.

[caribbeanhen]

He can be a celebrity dunker at the NBA All Star game.

did he take a running leap for that pic?

[Gil Dobie]

Forgot all about the game last night. I see Georgia won.

[Laker]

did he take a running leap for that pic?

Either that or he borrowed something from Baron Harkonnen from Dune

[Hammerhead]

I would guess that someone grabbed the wrong boxes and started handing them out to the players.


Never did figure out why they had to have hats ready immediately after the game. Either he didn't look at which box he took it from or this is a giant troll job.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIy_pz4XoAQbRHB?format=jpg&name=medium

[bonarae]

B1G is considering cutting divisions within the conference and games.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-considering-the-elimination-of-divisions-amid-college-football-playoff-expansion-talks/

[bonarae]

Ugh. CFP remains at 4 for the next 4 years. xsmhx

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/33319948/college-football-playoff-remain-4-teams-12-year-contract-expires-2025-season

[Gil Dobie]

Ugh. CFP remains at 4 for the next 4 years. xsmhx

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/33319948/college-football-playoff-remain-4-teams-12-year-contract-expires-2025-season

I watched one of the playoff games, and not the championship and zero bowl games this year. I'm not a big fan of SEC football, even though it's the best in FBS, still prefer regional games and teams with local players, after I get my FCS games in.