Mike Houston is gone

[Go...gate]

I believe that both teams will play very well. May it be a clean game with no major injuries.

[BDKJMU]

Disagree. He has 3-4 schools to pick from at best. Public negotiations against each other are a sure way of burning bridges permanently. He is behaving like a complete dip****.
Oh give me a break. The UNCC info was leaked. WTF was he suppose to do?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Oh give me a break. The UNCC info was leaked. WTF was he suppose to do?


This here.

Houston is a good coach and this mess was some idiot leaking it.

He'll be fine and even if he ends up staying at JMU, he still has a very good job.

[NDSUtk]

Oh give me a break. The UNCC info was leaked. WTF was he suppose to do?Except there is a popular school of thought that his own camp leaked it so as to force the hand of other schools if they want to hire him.

Look at the sequence and it's not a very crazy thought:
-Leaked he was going to be getting the job, but no announcement of a press conference
-Then he does his own statement where he very clearly states he was offered the position but has not accepted yet...

Why even confirm that if you may not take the position? One could argue because he wanted other schools that direction to say "he still is on the market but we need to get moving". And low and behold, the next day ECU's coach is fired, instead of letting him coach his final game today.

Not too crazy really.

[Bisonoline]

This here.

Houston is a good coach and this mess was some idiot leaking it.

He'll be fine and even if he ends up staying at JMU, he still has a very good job.

But what will future recruits think knowing hes looking for a new job ?

There will be no winners.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Except there is a popular school of thought that his own camp leaked it so as to force the hand of other schools if they want to hire him.

Look at the sequence and it's not a very crazy thought:
-Leaked he was going to be getting the job, but no announcement of a press conference
-Then he does his own statement where he very clearly states he was offered the position but has not accepted yet...


Why even confirm that if you may not take the position? One could argue because he wanted other schools that direction to say "he still is on the market but we need to get moving". And low and behold, the next day ECU's coach is fired, instead of letting him coach his final game today.

Not too crazy really.


http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29637&stc=1.......AGENTS...ARE UH....SCRUPULOUS BUNCH.....$$......AWK!

[centennial]

Oh give me a break. The UNCC info was leaked. WTF was he suppose to do?

He negotiated in bad faith trying to get other schools moving. Then made a weird statement after.

[walliver]

But what will future recruits think knowing hes looking for a new job ?

There will be no winners.

He stayed at Lenoir-Rhyne 3 years and El Cid for 2. Only the dimmest recruits expected him to stay at JMU. And only stupid recruits expect him to stay long at UNCC/ASU/ECU.

Mike Houston is not going to be happy until he is at Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, or Michigan and playing in the CFP. My gut feeling is that he may not make it that far, but I have no doubt that is his goal.

[GoBlueHens83]

So does Houston bother to get on the plane with the team or does he catch a flight directly to ECU?

[katss07]

So does Houston bother to get on the plane with the team or does he catch a flight directly to ECU?
ECU

[jmuwishyouhadadukedog]

So does Houston bother to get on the plane with the team or does he catch a flight directly to ECU?

I'll chip in for a first class ticket. I don't bear any ill will but I want us to start our coach search NOW.

[clenz]

He's clearly out the door, and probably had his office empty for a couple weeks trying to get out.


I'd imagine JMU would be willing to have a staffer pack up any crumbs he left behind and send them to his next school

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[centennial]

Funny if he stayed.

[BisonFan02]

Only thing keeping Houston there is waiting for the buyout check.

[Redbird 4th & short]

ECU
Coach Houston's short list of prospective G5 programs sure seems to read like the NC A&T AD's D-I speed dial list ....

xnodx

[Go...gate]

Given the closeness of the final score, one cannot help wondering if Houston's shenanigans were a factor in today's game.

[GoBlueHens83]

Given the closeness of the final score, one cannot help wondering if Houston's shenanigans were a factor in today's game.

It certainly can't be easy for the team to focus when they think their coach has one foot out the door.

[IBleedYellow]

Nope. Turns out was fake news.No it wasn't.

Charlotte literally rescinded it. Bruce's sources weren't wrong about who wanted Mike Houston.

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[Elvis was a Bison]

OK, maybe this is for real....

https://twitter.com/943TheGame/statu...29447667544064 (https://twitter.com/943TheGame/status/1069329447667544064)

[BisonFan02]

OK, maybe this is for real....

https://twitter.com/943TheGame/statu...29447667544064 (https://twitter.com/943TheGame/status/1069329447667544064)

It's for real unless Boone calls.....or someone better.

[Bison56]

OK, maybe this is for real....

https://twitter.com/943TheGame/statu...29447667544064 (https://twitter.com/943TheGame/status/1069329447667544064)

But he signed a 10 year deal with JMU, and built a custom home?xcoffeex

[ST_Lawson]

Sounds for real this time. Lots of sources seem to be confirming it.


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[jmu007]

He gone. JMU just sent out the official notice though just about every medium they have. Search for a new coach is under way.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

ECU and the AAC are getting a good coach. Be interesting to see if ECU can step up in the East and challenge UCF, Temple, Cincinnati and USF. They have a P5 worthy stadium and great campus/location. Plus, there's a history of success.

[Elvis was a Bison]

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JMU Nation,

After three memorable and highly successful seasons with Mike Houston, we find ourselves in transition looking for a new head football coach. As we enter this transition, I wanted to be proactive to address a few questions or concerns you may have.

First, I have no hard feelings about Mike leaving for this opportunity. He was the right fit for JMU for the last three years and we are grateful that he chose James Madison. Mike had FBS offers after each of his first two JMU seasons, and in each case, we were able to present him with an attractive package to stay at JMU.

However, when you are a coach of Mike’s caliber and character and continue to have success, those opportunities will continue to emerge. It’s the price of success at the FCS level, that a good coach at a good program will be attractive to another institution. The good news is that James Madison stands among the most coveted jobs at the FCS level, and I am fully confident that we will identify a coach who can not only sustain but build upon our success.

I do share the frustration of many fans with the timing of this development. It’s unfortunate that our student-athletes were competing in the FCS Playoffs with sights on a national championship and had to face this distraction. We don’t always control timing. With the recent change to a December national signing day for football (Dec. 19 this year), it has escalated the timeline for programs in transition to identify their coach. Perhaps the most challenging scenario is the one we face, an FCS program, which was actively competing in the playoffs, but is faced with an FBS program interested in its head coach.

Turning the page, where do we go from here? As I noted in the original release announcing Mike’s departure, JMU football is bigger than any one individual. Mike preached team first, and that approach is exactly what will ensure our sustained success. The expectations for JMU football won’t change and the way we conduct business and represent ourselves will not change.

I compiled a list of core qualities, which will guide our search for a new coach. In the interest of transparency, here are highlights of that list.


Commitment to the well-being of our student-athletes
Consummate professional who handles themselves with distinction and class
Recruits and leads young men who are successful academically and competitively
Promotes team-first concept
Is trustworthy, ethical and honest
Has a positive attitude
Embraces the culture of JMU Athletics and the campus community

This list will also be shared with our search consultant, Parker Executive Search. As we’ve stated previously, using a search firm will allow us to move with greater speed and pull in a wider group of candidates as we work through the hiring process.

Rest assured that we will move quickly to identify a new coach. Above all, the well-being of our student-athletes will be the top priority throughout the process. I referenced the Dec. 19 signing date above, and that date also impacts our need to move expeditiously. I look forward to introducing a new football coach to JMU Nation soon and to enjoying even brighter days ahead for JMU football.
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[Derby City Duke]

He gone. JMU just sent out the official notice though just about every medium they have. Search for a new coach is under way.

Glad his physical self has caught up to his mental self in Greenville, NC -- they were certainly in different places yesterday.

[CID1990]

I'm not completely sure this was the best move, but it keeps him in the NC area, where he obviously wants to be.

That said-

To describe the relationship between ECU and the NC ACC schools as bad blood would be an understatement. Particularly between UNC and ECU. I have a suspicion that Houston is playing the long game for UNC... Mack Brown wont be there long- Im guessing 5, maybe 6 years.

If Houston went to Charlotte and turned them into a yearly bowl team that would be quite a feat. And Charlotte doesn't have a lot of history in NC. Plus, turning them into a winner would turn more heads than taking ECU back to a place they have already been. If he produces a winner at ECU I'm not sure he realizes the white hot hatred the UNC and NCSU fans will have for him. Hell, I was at the NCSU-ECU game in 1987 when ECU fans tore down State's own goalposts. They STILL talk about that in Raleigh.

I'm mainly spitballing here but I think he should have schmoozed Charlotte if his ultimate goal is Chapel Hill


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[Gangtackle11]

I'm not completely sure this was the best move, but it keeps him in the NC area, where he obviously wants to be.

That said-

To describe the relationship between ECU and the NC ACC schools as bad blood would be an understatement. Particularly between UNC and ECU. I have a suspicion that Houston is playing the long game for UNC... Mack Brown wont be there long- Im guessing 5, maybe 6 years.

If Houston went to Charlotte and turned them into a yearly bowl team that would be quite a feat. And Charlotte doesn't have a lot of history in NC. Plus, turning them into a winner would turn more heads than taking ECU back to a place they have already been. If he produces a winner at ECU I'm not sure he realizes the white hot hatred the UNC and NCSU fans will have for him. Hell, I was at the NCSU-ECU game in 1987 when ECU fans tore down State's own goalposts. They STILL talk about that in Raleigh.

I'm mainly spitballing here but I think he should have schmoozed Charlotte if his ultimate goal is Chapel Hill


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I bet the ECU job paid $500k -$750k more a year than Charlotte job. $$$ always talks.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

xpeacex

[Go...gate]

At the end, Houston was certainly not very good to his players or to JMU.

[Professor Chaos]

At the end, Houston was certainly not very good to his players or to JMU.
There's two schools of thought here. One is that a coach is obligated to his current job/team and the other is that's he's obligated to do what's best for himself/his family.

With the coaching frenzy there is this time of year there's never going to be a good time to leave as the coach of a perennial playoff contender so I don't blame him for pursuing other opportunities while his stock was high. The only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was the passive aggressive finger pointing between him and Charlotte's AD over which one was being unfair. Something was fishy there and I doubt we'll ever really know which side was trying to stack the deck but neither came out of it smelling very good.

[BisonBacker]

So the next question is how much of his staff if any does he take with him? Maybe this question has already been answered I didn't bother to read through the entire thread.

[walliver]

At the end, Houston was certainly not very good to his players or to JMU.

Was he very good to his Citadel players and The Citadel?
Was he very good to his LR players or Lenoir-Rhyne?

I personally don't think his long game is UNC. His parents' situation is currently keeping him close to home, but once they're gone, his geographic options are wide open. Even while his parents live, Tennessee, UGA, and Georgia Tech are closer to his parents' home than UNC.

[jmu007]

Has not been reported anywhere yet. Word Saturday was that they’d be a group deal for most part.

[BisonBacker]

I've not followed his career closely at all but from what I've read he's never stayed at one job long enough to come full circle on coaching and winning with his own recruits. His results are based on others recruits. That's still quite a feat as you still have to coach but it does leave a huge question mark on his recruiting and identification of talent in recruits and recruiting which still apparently hasn't been answered. For those hiring him that to me would seem to be a huge concern/question?

[Bison56]

So the next question is how much of his staff if any does he take with him? Maybe this question has already been answered I didn't bother to read through the entire thread.

Asked the same question, very curious who stayed if any.

[jmu007]

AD Jeff Bourne holding presser at 2:30pm with live stream available via www.jmusports.com and probably Facebook live. Imagine he’ll be answering these questions.

[dewey]

AD Jeff Bourne holding presser at 2:30pm with live stream available via www.jmusports.com and probably Facebook live. Imagine he’ll be answering these questions.

Thanks. Houston taking most of his staff could gut James Madison pretty bad. Makes you wonder if one of the coordinators stays behind to be the next head coach.

Dewey

[Bisonator]

Is JMU going to try to get one of the coordinators to stay as HC and try to keep some cohesiveness or are they content to start over with a whole new staff?

[Professor Chaos]

Is JMU going to try to get one of the coordinators to stay as HC and try to keep some cohesiveness or are they content to start over with a whole new staff?
Beat writer Greg Madia seems to think that OC Donnie Kirkpatrick may be a candidate. He thinks DC Bob Trott will follow Houston to ECU.

http://www.dnronline.com/dnronline/exploring-potential-coaching-candidates-at-jmu/article_26815424-c72e-513b-8408-25f4a00fe2d8.html

[FUBeAR]

Beat writer Greg Madia seems to think that OC Donnie Kirkpatrick may be a candidate. He thinks DC Bob Trott will follow Houston to ECU.

http://www.dnronline.com/dnronline/exploring-potential-coaching-candidates-at-jmu/article_26815424-c72e-513b-8408-25f4a00fe2d8.html

Previous HC Record at Chattanooga...not so good...

DONNIE KIRKPATRICK
* UTC record: 10-24 in three seasons (2000-02)

[IBleedYellow]

Read on Reddit that:

"New ECU coach Mike Houston will make $1,300,500 his first year as the Pirates’ head coach ($500K base, $350K broadcast, $225K season ticket sales, $225K Pirate Club)"

[Daytripper]

Read on Reddit that:

"New ECU coach Mike Houston will make $1,300,500 his first year as the Pirates’ head coach ($500K base, $350K broadcast, $225K season ticket sales, $225K Pirate Club)"

Uh, now I see why he held out for the job...

[TheKingpin28]

Read on Reddit that:

"New ECU coach Mike Houston will make $1,300,500 his first year as the Pirates’ head coach ($500K base, $350K broadcast, $225K season ticket sales, $225K Pirate Club)"

IIRC that's about 40% more than JMU was paying him.

[Professor Chaos]

IIRC that's about 40% more than JMU was paying him.
That's around double what he was getting or more than double depending on incentives. He was getting $515k base plus up to about $170k in incentives (link (https://www.breezejmu.org/sports/an-overview-of-jmu-football-head-coach-mike-houston-s/article_0d615de6-e515-11e7-be3b-1306644a4692.html)).

[TheKingpin28]

That's around double what he was getting or more than double depending on incentives. He was getting $515k base plus up to about $170k in incentives (link (https://www.breezejmu.org/sports/an-overview-of-jmu-football-head-coach-mike-houston-s/article_0d615de6-e515-11e7-be3b-1306644a4692.html)).I thought he was closer to the 700k range but I guess I was wrong

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[jmu007]

Yeah we weren’t paying that lol. On to the next coach.

[IBleedYellow]

Uh, now I see why he held out for the job...

I see 1,300,500 reasons why he held out. Wise choice.

[Redbird 4th & short]

There's two schools of thought here. One is that a coach is obligated to his current job/team and the other is that's he's obligated to do what's best for himself/his family.

With the coaching frenzy there is this time of year there's never going to be a good time to leave as the coach of a perennial playoff contender so I don't blame him for pursuing other opportunities while his stock was high. The only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was the passive aggressive finger pointing between him and Charlotte's AD over which one was being unfair. Something was fishy there and I doubt we'll ever really know which side was trying to stack the deck but neither came out of it smelling very good.

This !!

Timing is never good for a football coach leaving a program having success. There will always be conflict with post season playing out at current school versus recruitment at the hiring school - not to mention hiring coaches.

Maybe Houston leaked it himself to open other doors, but why wouldn't he strive for best possible job. Given recruiting schedule conflicts directly with post season, there is no good time for a successful football coach to leave their current program for another. So this should never force a coach to accept a lesser job. FCS is stepping stone for some coaches on their way up .. nothing wrong with that. Coaches are NOT obligated to tell their players they are looking for work or open to offers .. that would be stupid. Just need to be appropriately discreet until something materializes, then handle professionally from there. But if Houston was looking for better FBS gig than Charlotte, then so be it. It is a free market.

[Daytripper]

This !!

Timing is never good for a football coach leaving a program having success. There will always be conflict with post season playing out at current school versus recruitment at the hiring school - not to mention hiring coaches.

Maybe Houston leaked it himself to open other doors, but why wouldn't he strive for best possible job. Given recruiting schedule conflicts directly with post season, there is no good time for a successful football coach to leave their current program for another. So this should never force a coach to accept a lesser job. FCS is stepping stone for some coaches on their way up .. nothing wrong with that. Coaches are NOT obligated to tell their players they are looking for work or open to offers .. that would be stupid. Just need to be appropriately discreet until something materializes, then handle professionally from there. But if Houston was looking for better FBS gig than Charlotte, then so be it. It is a free market.

As fans, we have an emotional attachment to our teams. Therefore, we tend to have unreasonable expectations of loyalty from coaches (and players). Houston did exactly as 95% of the people on this board would have done under similar circumstances.

[Reign of Terrier]

There was one article listing Wofforf Head Coach Josh Conklin as a possible leading candidate and I hope that's not true. He just got here!

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[Redbird 4th & short]

As fans, we have an emotional attachment to our teams. Therefore, we tend to have unreasonable expectations of loyalty from coaches (and players). Houston did exactly as 95% of the people on this board would have done under similar circumstances.
Speaking of CAA losing coaches ... William & Mary just hired new guy with zero drama. This is quite possibly the ONLY graceful way to lose or hire a college football coach .... for a coach to announce retirement before season even starts, and for the school to start their search and ultimately hire a guy away from a program who won't make the playoffs .. Like William & Mary just did from Howard. No one gets hurt .. although the Howard players might be disappointed, they are not preparing for playoffs. And W&M aren't in playoffs, so they can get right to work.

https://www.wm.edu/news/stories/2018/william-mary-names-mike-london-as-30th-head-football-coach.php

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Any list of candidates out there?

Temple Defensive Coordinator Andrew Thacker seems destined for a HC gig at some point. He's a 2007 Furman grad, has experience at Kennesaw State, UCF and the Atlanta Falcons. He knows the Mid-Atlantic and south recruiting.

[FUBeAR]

Any list of candidates out there?

Temple Defensive Coordinator Andrew Thacker seems destined for a HC gig at some point. He's a 2007 Furman grad, has experience at Kennesaw State, UCF and the Atlanta Falcons. He knows the Mid-Atlantic and south recruiting....and if you want a Safety who will get downfall fast and BLOW UP the option (as discussed in the SDakSt/KSU thread), Andrew F’ing Thacker (the ‘name by which he must be called’ on the FU Message Board) is your guy!

[PaladinNation]

...and if you want a Safety who will get downfall fast and BLOW UP the option (as discussed in the SDakSt/KSU thread), Andrew F’ing Thacker (the ‘name by which he must be called’ on the FU Message Board) is your guy!

ditto on Thacker… always hoped he would somehow find a way back to good ole FU.

I don't think JMU has the money (maybe JMU does have the money) but I doubt he'd be interested… Billy Napier would be a great choice.

Just looked up Napier's contract at UL… He will be paid $756,960 guaranteed in his first year, with the base salary of $250,000 increasing by $25,000 each year of his deal. If all incentives on his contract are met, Napier could make $1,466,960.

Also in Napier's contract is $2 million for assistant coaches and staff.

[Silenoz]

IIRC that's about 40% more than JMU was paying him.

Jesus Christ. What do we pay, like 160k? No wonder we suck.

[clenz]

Jesus Christ. What do we pay, like 160k? No wonder we suck.UNI is issuing over a half million


Isn't helping

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[TheKingpin28]

Jesus Christ. What do we pay, like 160k? No wonder we suck.Buying coaches does not work. Instilling a foundation and sticking to it helps create a solid team as well as a multitude of other things. Don't even look at NDSU and you can see schools who are perennial winners who stick to the plan and keep replenishing the foundation.

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[Mocs123]

I think Charlotte ended up hiring Will Healy from Austin Peay.

[walliver]

https://medium.com/the-carroll-news/tom-arth-the-leading-candidate-for-akron-football-head-coach-position-3532c63020b3

Tom Arth being courted by Akron.
Apparently winning isn’t that important.

[FUBeAR]

I think Charlotte ended up hiring Will Healy from Austin Peay.Met Coach Healy during my FormerBear’s Recruiting visit to Chattanooga. Nice young man during our convo’s.

Kinda gettin’ a Lane Kiffin-ish vibe from him, though. Valid sense or no?

[Mocs123]

Healy was great in Chattanooga, our best recruiter for most of the Huesman years. I thought he would make a great head coach one day and was thinking he might take over as OC. I was surprised when Austin Peay hired him (an FCS Recievers coach) to be their HC, but it worked out. Marcus West, who he took with him from Chattanooga, is another good one. I assume he is going with him to Charlotte.

I'm not sure Charlotte is a smart destination though, but of course I would have said that about Austin Peay.

[AmsterBison]

... but you can still hear the echoes of his pregame speeches if you cup a hand to your hear and search youtube for JMU Houston pregame speech.

[Derby City Duke]

And apparently taking almost his entire staff with him. Only the interim HC is staying at this point.

https://twitter.com/Madia_DNRSports/status/1070848720214941698

[JMU-MRD-DAD]

And apparently taking almost his entire staff with him. Only the interim HC is staying at this point.

https://twitter.com/Madia_DNRSports/status/1070848720214941698
That's the best move.

The new coach will bring his coaching team with him. The Dukes return a lot of starters.

GO DUKES

[Derby City Duke]

That's the best move.

The new coach will bring his coaching team with him. The Dukes return a lot of starters.

GO DUKES

Tesh, Hanson, and Miles are huge losses. Miles was the recruiting coordinator, Hanson a DL savant, and I think our special teams play speaks for itself.

[Lorne_Malvo]

Ouch!

Mike Houston brings 8 members of his James Madison coaching staff w/him to East Carolina.

[kdinva]

Ouch!

Mike Houston brings 8 members of his James Madison coaching staff w/him to East Carolina.

but not Stinespring..........is he #1 to succeed Houston?

[KPSUL]

And apparently taking almost his entire staff with him. Only the interim HC is staying at this point.

https://twitter.com/Madia_DNRSports/status/1070848720214941698

Seems like there will be a lot of ECU assistant coaches looking for work.

[RootinFerDukes]

but not Stinespring..........is he #1 to succeed Houston?

He left after 2017 to go to Maryland. The moment he hit the state retirement service years minimum for a certain benefit level.

He’s rumored to have been interviewed every time, after Mickey, after withers and now too. He very much wants the job and worked as an assistant under Houston for two years.

Most JMU fans would be ticked if he was hired. It’d be the ultimate “settling” hire. He also has no HC experience.

[kdinva]

He (Stinespring) left after 2017 to go to Maryland.

my mistake......

[jmuwishyouhadadukedog]

As noted on the JMU forum, a plane tookoff from the local airport to Bangor ME this morning. Definitely not a scheduled flight but a charter. Gotta think that is a good indicator Maine's coach is our target.

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

As noted on the JMU forum, a plane tookoff from the local airport to Bangor ME this morning. Definitely not a scheduled flight but a charter. Gotta think that is a good indicator Maine's coach is our target.

Man I wish you coulda hired someone internally. Maine in the middle of their best run ever and you guys gotta come in and disrupt this ride. Whether or not Coach H is offered or accepts, guess if he is offered how the hell does he not accept, this justs ads another obstacle in the way of beating EWU. If your the Maine coaching staff how do u put a positive spin on this??????????????

[kdinva]

former JMU Duke player John DeFilippo is looking for work

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-vikings-fire-offensive-coordinator-john-defilippo-171229123.html

[RootinFerDukes]

Man I wish you coulda hired someone internally. Maine in the middle of their best run ever and you guys gotta come in and disrupt this ride. Whether or not Coach H is offered or accepts, guess if he is offered how the hell does he not accept, this justs ads another obstacle in the way of beating EWU. If your the Maine coaching staff how do u put a positive spin on this??????????????

We only have two assistant coaches remaining to try and preserve our recruiting class. They were the two assistants Houston didn't take with him to ECU.

There's no one to promote from within.

Look at this this way, if we get Coach Haraysmiak, we're not pulling a UNCC and leaking it to the media in the middle of your run. Our administration will likely seek to be more respectful of putting a distraction out there.

With that being said, this is far from a done deal. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

[Daytripper]

Man I wish you coulda hired someone internally. Maine in the middle of their best run ever and you guys gotta come in and disrupt this ride. Whether or not Coach H is offered or accepts, guess if he is offered how the hell does he not accept, this justs ads another obstacle in the way of beating EWU. If your the Maine coaching staff how do u put a positive spin on this??????????????

Here's the thing: You have to see the positive in this. If your coach is in demand, that means you are successful. It's just part of being FCS. If your coach stays forever, it probably means your program is mediocre to bad.... You just need a good AD that can recognize talent and hire another good coach. Welcome to success!!!

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

We only have two assistant coaches remaining to try and preserve our recruiting class. They were the two assistants Houston didn't take with him to ECU.

There's no one to promote from within.

Look at this this way, if we get Coach Haraysmiak, we're not pulling a UNCC and leaking it to the media in the middle of your run. Our administration will likely seek to be more respectful of putting a distraction out there.

With that being said, this is far from a done deal. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

Hope ur right. Patience is a virtue. If there is anything to this was just hoping it would wait till next week.

[clenz]

Hope ur right. Patience is a virtue. If there is anything to this was just hoping it would wait till next week.
There's a recruiting window open for only 5 more days before a massive dead period right before signing day. JMU - or any school - needs to get a guy in now to get recruits on board/keep them.

It's why jobs aren't staying open long anymore. Or schools will wait until the deal period to do anything.

[TheKingpin28]

former JMU Duke player John DeFilippo is looking for work

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-vikings-fire-offensive-coordinator-john-defilippo-171229123.htmlHe just needs Carson Wentz and Nick Foles at QB to be successful.

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[RootinFerDukes]

Hope ur right. Patience is a virtue. If there is anything to this was just hoping it would wait till next week.

You all might beat EWU and then there's three more weeks after that until Frisco. The nature of the december signing day now puts a mid-playoff wild card into the mix with coaching searches. It won't change until they change the date.

[cx500d]

We only have two assistant coaches remaining to try and preserve our recruiting class. They were the two assistants Houston didn't take with him to ECU.

There's no one to promote from within.

Look at this this way, if we get Coach Haraysmiak, we're not pulling a UNCC and leaking it to the media in the middle of your run. Our administration will likely seek to be more respectful of putting a distraction out there.

With that being said, this is far from a done deal. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

If Maine beats EWU, I call bull**** on this...JMU absolutely will leak it before early signing day.

I hope Coach H stays put - he's got a good thing going.

[RootinFerDukes]

If Maine beats EWU, I call bull**** on this...JMU absolutely will leak it before early signing day.

I hope Coach H stays put - he's got a good thing going.

Nothing has leaked so far. Even if we announce him, he’ll keep coaching at Maine as long as their season goes. I want to see Maine keep winning.

[cx500d]

Nothing has leaked so far. Even if we announce him, he’ll keep playing at Maine as long as their season goes. I want to see Maine keep winning.


If he is JMU's guy, they will wait until Sunday to announce. They aren't going to wait the 3 weeks until after the Natty if Maine wins.

[RootinFerDukes]

If he is JMU's guy, they will wait until Sunday to announce. They aren't going to wait the 3 weeks until after the Natty if Maine wins.

I agree. Whoever it is, they HAVE to announce by the end of the week to lock in the December commits. They want to know who the coach is.

I can see our administration allowing him to do double duty though if Maine goes to Frisco.

[Professor Chaos]

The interesting thing about the timing now for these coaching changes is that next Monday is the start of the recruiting dead period meaning no contact at all from coaches to recruits and that goes until after Frisco (January 10th). So if you're not going to name a coach until Sunday you really don't need to be in that much of a hurry anymore IMO since that new coach/staff can't recruit for 3+ weeks anyway.

Of course fans will get antsy and that period would allow the new coach to fill in his staff. While the early signing day has caused this pandemonium in early December a benefit is the extended dead period from mid-December to early January that allows schools/coaches that are transitioning to finally take a breath. I believe that prior to the early signing day the dead period only was about 10 days between Christmas and New Years.

[dgtw]

He can’t recruit but having his name on paper would certainly help recruiting, especially if they go to Frisco. Even more when they bitch slap the Bison.

(ducks)


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[JMU2004]

Today that same plane is in ATL. Pretty easy to see who JMU would have interest in there.

[Reign of Terrier]

Today that same plane is in ATL. Pretty easy to see who JMU would have interest in there.
Bohannan?

[Gangtackle11]

If Maine beats EWU, I call bull**** on this...JMU absolutely will leak it before early signing day.

I hope Coach H stays put - he's got a good thing going.

He makes $180k tops at Maine. He’s a gonna if JMU is interested.xpeacex

[caribbeanhen]

Today that same plane is in ATL. Pretty easy to see who JMU would have interest in there.

Uh oh, flightaware does not keep any secrets.....

[cx500d]

Today that same plane is in ATL. Pretty easy to see who JMU would have interest in there.

Bobby Lamb!

[clenz]

So...assuming it's Bohannon they are after...

Someone explain to me why they are going after a flexbone guy. That's lost on me

[dgtw]

Today that same plane is in ATL. Pretty easy to see who JMU would have interest in there.

Falcons fans are hoping it is Mike Quinn.


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[caribbeanhen]

Dave Brock is in Atlanta

[jmu007]

The consulting firm JMU hired for the search is based out of ATL. I wouldn't put too much stock in any plane traffic in/out of the area.

[walliver]

So...assuming it's Bohannon they are after...

Someone explain to me why they are going after a flexbone guy. That's lost on me

Mike Houston was a flexbone guy when JMU hired him.

[FUBeAR]

The consulting firm JMU hired for the search is based out of ATL. I wouldn't put too much stock in any plane traffic in/out of the area.Also GHSA State Championship Games in ATL at M-B Stadium. The infamous Rush Propst is Coaching Colquitt County in the 7A Championship Game. He’s been angling to get a college gig for years. Maybe JMU is the one that will finally hire him.

FUBeAR’s finds him repugnant, but he does win A LOT of Football games & Championships. Proven success as a Recruiter too, at the High School level though. Does JMU provide housing, jobs, etc. for Players’ Parents?

[citdog]

Bobby Lamb!

furman sucks

[Derby City Duke]

Also GHSA State Championship Games in ATL at M-B Stadium. The infamous Rush Propst is Coaching Colquitt County in the 7A Championship Game. He’s been angling to get a college gig for years. Maybe JMU is the one that will finally hire him.

FUBeAR’s finds him repugnant, but he does win A LOT of Football games & Championships. Proven success as a Recruiter too, at the High School level though. Does JMU provide housing, jobs, etc. for Players’ Parents?

Harrisonburg is but a small, sleepy little town; all the available jobs are filled by the mighty welcoming town folk. They're also pretty much out of building materials so housing is tight as well. :D xsmiley_wix

[FUBeAR]

Harrisonburg is but a small, sleepy little town; all the available jobs are filled by the mighty welcoming town folk. They're also pretty much out of building materials so housing is tight as well. :D xsmiley_wixWell, I guess Propst is not your guy then. If he doesn’t enjoy the same level of Recruiting resources that he has had at his disposal at the High School level, then I doubt he would be willing to take that kind of risk to his ‘reputation.’

BTW - His Team lost the game last night, 14-13. Also lost a likely bid to this stupid HS National Championship ‘Series’ http://www.geicobowlseries.com/

[kdinva]

.....Does JMU provide housing, jobs, etc. for Players’ Parents?

....Like SMU did 35 years ago? xtroublex

[dgtw]

Harrisonburg is but a small, sleepy little town; all the available jobs are filled by the mighty welcoming town folk. They're also pretty much out of building materials so housing is tight as well. :D xsmiley_wix

Rush would need extra housing for both of his wives.


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[RootinFerDukes]

Stinespring and Mehringer are the only two confirmed by the media to have interviewed.

[Bisonator]

Surprised this is taking so long. I would have thought JMU would have wanted a coach hired before the dead period starts on Monday.

[Gangtackle11]

Surprised this is taking so long. I would have thought JMU would have wanted a coach hired before the dead period starts on Monday.

He’s coaching a team in Eastern Washington rn. xpeacex

[Bisonator]

He’s coaching a team in Eastern Washington rn. xpeacex
And that's the best they could come up with? I mean no disrespect to Maine's HC but you'd think there would be some interesting FBS assistants out there.

[JMU-MRD-DAD]

He’s coaching a team in Eastern Washington rn. xpeacex
I don't think so....

Go Maine...

[RootinFerDukes]

He’s coaching a team in Eastern Washington rn. xpeacex

That's what we're hoping... but you never know with our admin sometimes...

[RootinFerDukes]

And that's the best they could come up with? I mean no disrespect to Maine's HC but you'd think there would be some interesting FBS assistants out there.

How are FBS assistants guaranteed to win and run a program right? FWIW, the media confirmed we interviewed two former JMU assistants who are now P5 assistants, Mehringer at Texas and Stinespring at Maryland.

Why are they taking so long? Who the heck knows. We'll get the answer to that question in hindsight once they finally announce someone. They were supposedly still interviewing yesterday.

[JMU-MRD-DAD]

That's what we're hoping... but you never know with our admin sometimes...
Would this guy be able to recruit in Virginia? That's my biggest concern and the fact he probably would not stay much longer than Houston.

GO DUKES.....and Maine...

[Bisonator]

How are FBS assistants guaranteed to win and run a program right? FWIW, the media confirmed we interviewed two former JMU assistants who are now P5 assistants, Mehringer at Texas and Stinespring at Maryland.

Why are they taking so long? Who the heck knows. We'll get the answer to that question in hindsight once they finally announce someone. They were supposedly still interviewing yesterday.
Nobody is, not even a current HC of another FCS program.

[RootinFerDukes]

http://footballscoop.com/news/update-james-madison-head-coaching-search/

Football Scoop is reporting that JMU's top target is Joe Harasymiak. Doesn't sound like a done deal though.

Other candidates mentioned:
Elon HC Curt Cignetti
NC State Assistant HC for Offense Des Kitchings
Texas WR Coach Drew Mehringer (former JMU assistant coach)
Maryland OL Coach Bryan Stinespring (former JMU assistant coach). Stinespring was also a long time Offensive Coordinator/Assistant under Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech.

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

http://footballscoop.com/news/update-james-madison-head-coaching-search/

Football Scoop is reporting that JMU's top target is Joe Harasymiak. Doesn't sound like a done deal though.

Other candidates mentioned:
Elon HC Curt Cignetti
NC State Assistant HC for Offense Des Kitchings
Texas WR Coach Drew Mehringer (former JMU assistant coach)
Maryland OL Coach Bryan Stinespring (former JMU assistant coach). Stinespring was also a long time Offensive Coordinator/Assistant under Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech.

Why the hell would JMU want Coach Harasymiak like the article says-
Another complicating factor: Harasymaik has seen the entirety of his coaching career in New England, and most of it in Maine. A 2008 Springfield College graduate, he jumped into coaching at Maine Maritime Academy, spent two seasons as a GA at his alma mater, then joined the Maine program in 2011 as defensive backs coach, where he climbed the totem pole to defensive coordinator and then head coach.

There is no doubt he does not have the ability to coach outside of New England and JMU is doomed to be in the crapper if you hire him. Not to mention like Derby City Duke acknowledged Maine has no coach worth hiring.xeyebrowx

[PaladinNation]

http://footballscoop.com/news/update-james-madison-head-coaching-search/

Football Scoop is reporting that JMU's top target is Joe Harasymiak. Doesn't sound like a done deal though.

Other candidates mentioned:
Elon HC Curt Cignetti
NC State Assistant HC for Offense Des Kitchings
Texas WR Coach Drew Mehringer (former JMU assistant coach)
Maryland OL Coach Bryan Stinespring (former JMU assistant coach). Stinespring was also a long time Offensive Coordinator/Assistant under Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech.

Des is a Furman grad took the Furman job to replace Fowler then declined the job later that evening. I heard he got a nice pay raise at State afterward. Surprised he would leave Raleigh for JMU, supposedly his wife didn't like the idea of moving the family to Greenville.

[Srdnaty]

Why the hell would JMU want Coach Harasymiak like the article says-
Another complicating factor: Harasymaik has seen the entirety of his coaching career in New England, and most of it in Maine. A 2008 Springfield College graduate, he jumped into coaching at Maine Maritime Academy, spent two seasons as a GA at his alma mater, then joined the Maine program in 2011 as defensive backs coach, where he climbed the totem pole to defensive coordinator and then head coach.

There is no doubt he does not have the ability to coach outside of New England and JMU is doomed to be in the crapper if you hire him. Not to mention like Derby City Duke acknowledged Maine has no coach worth hiring.xeyebrowx

Harasymiak is good and I think he has a ton of upside, but a big bet still for JMU. That program should have its pick, but I can see why they like Harasymiak. I can see why he would want to go.

My bigger fear is that JMU has no assistants left, so would it be a coaching exodus to JMU? Maine is loaded with freshman and sophomores. Hate to see this happen to the program.

I think it's obvious Hetherman is the replacement, so JMU won't get him, but everyone else might be up for grabs. At this late in the game what kind of staff could he build. Any recruiting edge from this run will be likely lost.

No matter where he lands Harasymiak won't be in the FCS for more than 3-4 more years, IF (big if) he remains successful.

If he stays at Maine he'll be gone in 2 probably to a low level FBS (UCONN).

If he goes JMU he'll be there for 3 years.

[Derby City Duke]

Why the hell would JMU want Coach Harasymiak like the article says-
Another complicating factor: Harasymaik has seen the entirety of his coaching career in New England, and most of it in Maine. A 2008 Springfield College graduate, he jumped into coaching at Maine Maritime Academy, spent two seasons as a GA at his alma mater, then joined the Maine program in 2011 as defensive backs coach, where he climbed the totem pole to defensive coordinator and then head coach.

There is no doubt he does not have the ability to coach outside of New England and JMU is doomed to be in the crapper if you hire him. Not to mention like Derby City Duke acknowledged Maine has no coach worth hiring.xeyebrowx

Please include the context of my statement -- I prefaced my statement with 'historically' when referring to schools wanting to hire Maine HCs. Selective editing is not very nice...xpeacex

[Srdnaty]

Source: Curt Cignetti has signed a 6-year deal to be the new coach at JMU.

Source: Cignetti's deal at JMU is for $425K per year for six years.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Madia_DNRSports

[citdog]

Des is a Furman grad took the Furman job to replace Fowler then declined the job later that evening. I heard he got a nice pay raise at State afterward. Surprised he would leave Raleigh for JMU, supposedly his wife didn't like the idea of moving the family to Greenville.

furman sucks

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

Please include the context of my statement -- I prefaced my statement with 'historically' when referring to schools wanting to hire Maine HCs. Selective editing is not very nice...xpeacex

Give me a frigging brake historically that is, you got a good coach now that has coached outside of New England!!!

[Derby City Duke]

Give me a frigging brake historically that is, you got a good coach now that has coached outside of New England!!!

Good luck tomorrow in Cheney.

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

Thanks for the good luck, but you are rooting for the Eagles? I understand if you are as I am not sure I could root for you guys not because you are a CAA foe more because you have been the class of the league of the past couple of years, sort of like the Evil Empire syndrome. Maine is sort of like the Tampa Bay Rays of football, 1/2 the budget of most teams, never been here before, no one saw this coming and no one picked them. The only one's saw this was the team and players. Not sure if this unimaginable ride continues but it has been fun nonetheless.
GO BLACK BEARS!!!

[cx500d]

Thanks for the good luck, but you are rooting for the Eagles? I understand if you are as I am not sure I could root for you guys not because you are a CAA foe more because you have been the class of the league of the past couple of years, sort of like the Evil Empire syndrome. Maine is sort of like the Tampa Bay Rays of football, 1/2 the budget of most teams, never been here before, no one saw this coming and no one picked them. The only one's saw this was the team and players. Not sure if this unimaginable ride continues but it has been fun nonetheless.
GO BLACK BEARS!!!
Gitter done

[Derby City Duke]

Thanks for the good luck, but you are rooting for the Eagles? I understand if you are as I am not sure I could root for you guys not because you are a CAA foe more because you have been the class of the league of the past couple of years, sort of like the Evil Empire syndrome. Maine is sort of like the Tampa Bay Rays of football, 1/2 the budget of most teams, never been here before, no one saw this coming and no one picked them. The only one's saw this was the team and players. Not sure if this unimaginable ride continues but it has been fun nonetheless.
GO BLACK BEARS!!!

Honestly not rooting at all, but was looking for a good game. In the end I didn't see any of it as I spent the day with my wife at a women's basketball game and out Christmas shopping.

Believe me it's not Maine -- I'm just not a conference cheerleader -- I wouldn't root for/against any CAA team not named JMU. I root for JMU as long as they are in play, regardless of sport; then I'll tune in to other games if I get the opportunity. I got to see a bit of the 2nd quarter of the xDSU game Friday night, but had other stuff to get done so I didn't watch anymore.

Great run for the Black Bears this year; hope you can keep it up and continue to play good football in the years to come.

[49RFootballNow]

We only have two assistant coaches remaining to try and preserve our recruiting class. They were the two assistants Houston didn't take with him to ECU.

There's no one to promote from within.

Look at this this way, if we get Coach Haraysmiak, we're not pulling a UNCC and leaking it to the media in the middle of your run. Our administration will likely seek to be more respectful of putting a distraction out there.

With that being said, this is far from a done deal. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

xcoffeex

Your leak's name was Mike Houston. Anyone trying to think will see that it was he and his agent trying to force other schools to make counter offers. Either way he was gone and frankly, I think ECU took a bullet for us on this one.

[RootinFerDukes]

xcoffeex

Your leak's name was Mike Houston. Anyone trying to think will see that it was he and his agent trying to force other schools to make counter offers. Either way he was gone and frankly, I think ECU took a bullet for us on this one.

If by took a bullet, you mean he'll get them back to bowl games and in the approximately 8 win range before peacing out for the first P5 to offer? I'm sure their fans will welcome that scenario with open arms compared the last 3 seasons at 3 wins a piece.

[citdog]

Losing winning coaches is how it works at this level. Hearing jmu people cry about it is hilarious. El Cid people didn't cry when jmu stole him from us.

[RootinFerDukes]

Losing winning coaches is how it works at this level. Hearing jmu people cry about it is hilarious. El Cid people didn't cry when jmu stole him from us.

I distinctly remember citadel posters bemoaning it. Stop lying. No I'm not digging them up, sorry.

[citdog]

I distinctly remember citadel posters bemoaning it. Stop lying. No I'm not digging them up, sorry.

It's THE Citadel and I seem to remember the 'Dogs going undefeated in FCS the next season and being the 6 seed in the playoffs. Let's see if the little dukes can do better than that. Something tells me you will not...

[Derby City Duke]

It's THE Citadel and I seem to remember the 'Dogs going undefeated in FCS the next season and being the 6 seed in the playoffs. Let's see if the little dukes can do better than that. Something tells me you will not...

And THE Citadel failed to find the end zone in its 1st playoff game loss that year. So what. Coaches come and coaches go and every season is a new one. Who knows what will happen next year...no crying in this corner of JMU's fan base.

[jmu007]

Mike who...

[cx500d]

Mike who...


Hunt?

[kdinva]

Hunt?

xlolx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDhhXIfIDUs

[uni88]

And THE Citadel failed to find the end zone in its 1st playoff game loss that year. So what. Coaches come and coaches go and every season is a new one. Who knows what will happen next year...no crying in this corner of JMU's fan base.Did JMU cry?
Hell no!
Coaches come and coaches go.

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