Northern Iowa and Indiana State play today!

[Twentysix]

The game is on ESPN3 starting at 4 pacific. Get your weekday mvfc fix tonight!

Also I'm not sure why my phone made the title possessive. If a mod could fix it that'd be great
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[F'N Hawks]

Any reason why they are playing on a Thursday?

[ST_Lawson]

Any reason why they are playing on a Thursday?

Creepin' in on some of that mid-week "MACtion" maybe?

[clenz]

Any reason why they are playing on a Thursday?

Indiana State wants more Thursday games for exposure purposes. Rather than playing billionth fiddle on Saturday they’d rather play Thursday nights.

Does it get them more attention? Probably not, but that’s their reason.

I talked with their beat writer via twitter a while back and he mentioned they are doing 1 game for now but would 2 or 3 conference Thursday games if it gets the okay eventually


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[Redbird 4th & short]

Certainly, the MVFC game that will have the most interest this week, is without doubt SDSU at NDSU ... sincerely, Captain Obvious

But for me, the most "interesting" MVFC game this week is UNI at ISUb. For me, I want to see if UNI is going to become the UNI i thought they were coming into this season .. I picked them 2nd, though said field was wide open after NDSU. At same time, being an MVFC fan, I also want to see if ISUb has recovered from a very bad year and may surprise a few teams in lower half of MVFC this year.

So I'm looking forward to seeing how they both do .. that is, who shows up. With MoST also showing some competitiveness in their NAU game, the bottom of MVFC could be much improved this year.

[Professor Chaos]

Indiana State wants more Thursday games for exposure purposes. Rather than playing billionth fiddle on Saturday they’d rather play Thursday nights.

Does it get them more attention? Probably not, but that’s their reason.

I talked with their beat writer via twitter a while back and he mentioned they are doing 1 game for now but would 2 or 3 conference Thursday games if it gets the okay eventually


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I bet they'll get pushback from the conference if they want that many (they only get 4 conference home games a year to begin with). I know Klieman doesn't even like late kickoffs on Saturday because it messes with their routine so I'm sure he'd hate these short weeks. Although once UND comes on board I would guess NDSU will play the eastern schools like Indiana St and YSU only about half the time anyway.

[Schism55]

Certainly, the MVFC game that will have the most interest this week, is without doubt SDSU at NDSU ... sincerely, Captain Obvious

But for me, the most "interesting" MVFC game this week is UNI at ISUb. For me, I want to see if UNI is going to become the UNI i thought they were coming into this season .. I picked them 2nd, though said field was wide open after NDSU. At same time, being an MVFC fan, I also want to see if ISUb has recovered from a very bad year and may surprise a few teams in lower half of MVFC this year.

So I'm looking forward to seeing how they both do .. that is, who shows up. With MoST also showing some competitiveness in their NAU game, the bottom of MVFC could be much improved this year.
This indeed. I think the Trees might be pretty good this year. Now watch them lose to UNI by 45 xlolx

[TheKingpin28]

This indeed. I think the Trees might be pretty good this year. Now watch them lose to UNI by 45 xlolx

And then Grant Olson comes back home? xnodx

[JayJ79]

Any reason why they are playing on a Thursday?

The original plan was that both teams would have their idle/bye week this past weekend, so playing Thursday wouldn't be that big of a deal (and yes, UNI didn't mind having an extra day or two prior to hosting NDSU next week).

But then UNI couldn't find an opponent to play for a home game in Week 2 (and the notion of only 4 home games didn't sit well with many UNI fans), but they were finally able to schedule a home game with Hampton this past weekend. And I'm guessing the Thursday game was already agreed to at that point and Indiana State didn't want to move it ot a Saturday.

[JayJ79]

First MVFC conference game of the year. weeeeee

[clenz]

I bet they'll get pushback from the conference if they want that many (they only get 4 conference home games a year to begin with). I know Klieman doesn't even like late kickoffs on Saturday because it messes with their routine so I'm sure he'd hate these short weeks. Although once UND comes on board I would guess NDSU will play the eastern schools like Indiana St and YSU only about half the time anyway.
Maybe, Maybe not.

Travel certainly won't be a reason to not have Thursday games. It will always be a 6 PM Central Winning Time kick.

UNI flew out this morning - chartered a 737-800. It's a 50 minute flight from Waterloo/Cedar Falls's to Terre Haute. Wheels up was 9:21 CWT and touchdown was 10:11 CWT

They may not get a Dakota team on a Thursday, but I can't imagine a reason that the MVFC would say no, due to travel, to any Illinois school or YSU. MSU probably wouldn't make a difference either. Hell, from Fargo/Grand Forks is probably only a 2 to 2.5 hour flight. Fargo to Terre Haute is 700 miles, as the bird flies. Cedar Falls to Terre Haute is 360 - half the distance. Call it 2 hours.

You may see objection due to a short week, but it's going to take some pretty compelling evidence that it's going to cause major issues. The NFL does it. The MAC and Sun Belt do it (on Wednesday and even Tuesday). Every single FBS game plays midweek games

There are 71 midweek games the the rest of the season in the FBS



Tuesday




App State
@
Ark State


Troy
@
South Alabama


Kent St
@
Bowling Green


Miami (OH)
@
Buffalo


Kent St
@
Buffalo


Western Michigan
@
Ball St


Ball St
@
Miami (OH)


Northern Illinois
@
Western Michigan





Wednesday




Ball St
@
Toledo


Ohio
@
Miami (OH)


Toledo
@
Northern Illinois


Buffalo
@
Ohio


Miami (OH)
@
Northern Illinois





Thursday




UNC
@
Miami


Ga State
@
Troy


Tulsa
@
Houston


Texas Tech
@
TCU


Georgia So.
@
Texas St


Georgia State
@
Ark State


Stanford
@
Az State


Baylor
@
West Virginia


Ball St
@
Ohio


Toledo
@
Western Michigan


Georgia Tech
@
Va Tech


App State
@
Georgia Southern


Northern Illinois
@
Akron


Ohio
@
Western Michigan


Temple
@
Central Florida


Wake Forest
@
NC State


Toledo
@
Kent St


Tulane
@
Houston


Florida Atlantic
@
North Texas


Colorado St
@
Air Force


Miss St
@
Ole Miss





Friday




Memphis
@
Tulane


UCLA
@
Colorado


Georgia Tech
@
Louisville


Mid Tenn St
@
Marshall


Utah St
@
BYU


South Florida
@
Tulsa


Air Force
@
San Diego St


Arizona
@
Utah


Colorado St
@
Boise St


Air Force
@
UNLV


Louisiana Tech
@
Florida Atlantic


Miami
@
Boston College


Indiana
@
Minnesota


Wyoming
@
Colorado St


Utah
@
UCLA


Pittsburgh
@
Virginia


Western Kentucky
@
Mid. Tenn St


Colorado
@
Arizona


Louisville
@
Syracuse


Fresno State
@
Boise St


Memphis
@
SMU


Boise St
@
New Mexico


Central Florida
@
South Florida


Virginia
@
Virginia Tech


Akron
@
Ohio


Buffalo
@
Bowling Green


Central Michigan
@
Toledo


Eastern Michigan
@
Kent St


Eastern Carolina
@
Cincinnati


Houston
@
Memphis


Texas
@
Kansas


Nebraska
@
Iowa


Arkansas
@
Mizzou


Coastal Carolina
@
South Alabama


Oregon
@
Oregon St


Oklahoma
@
West Virginia


Washington
@
Washington State






While it is much less common at the FCS level, it's not unheard of. My guess is if Indiana State wants 2 of their home conference games on Thursday nights it won't cause too much stir.

[Sycamore62]

I skipped down to post my theory, Thursday will keep us from fighting IU and Purdue within 1.5 hrs and Notre Dame which is closed enough for people to go to anywhere. they also have a lot of students go home, or did back in the day.

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We will have to play VERY good to win this. I dont think we beat a UNI team that plays good.

[Professor Chaos]

Maybe, Maybe not.

Travel certainly won't be a reason to not have Thursday games. It will always be a 6 PM Central Winning Time kick.

UNI flew out this morning - chartered a 737-800. It's a 50 minute flight from Waterloo/Cedar Falls's to Terre Haute. Wheels up was 9:21 CWT and touchdown was 10:11 CWT

They may not get a Dakota team on a Thursday, but I can't imagine a reason that the MVFC would say no, due to travel, to any Illinois school or YSU. MSU probably wouldn't make a difference either. Hell, from Fargo/Grand Forks is probably only a 2 to 2.5 hour flight. Fargo to Terre Haute is 700 miles, as the bird flies. Cedar Falls to Terre Haute is 360 - half the distance. Call it 2 hours.

You may see objection due to a short week, but it's going to take some pretty compelling evidence that it's going to cause major issues. The NFL does it. The MAC and Sun Belt do it (on Wednesday and even Tuesday). Every single FBS game plays midweek games

There are 71 midweek games the the rest of the season in the FBS

While it is much less common at the FCS level, it's not unheard of. My guess is if Indiana State wants 2 of their home conference games on Thursday nights it won't cause too much stir.
I'm not saying the conference office itself would have a problem with it, I'm saying the ADs within the conference would and that would be mostly because of input from the coaches who don't want their weekly routine effed with. Maybe Klieman is different from most coaches but I'm almost positive he would not be a fan of playing in Terre Haute on a Thursday due to the irregular week. If there was a bye before hand that's a different story and with an odd number of teams in the conference again when UND joins it might work out since someone will have to be on bye every week unless they can get an OOC game scheduled.

The vast majority of those FBS games are mid-week because they can get on TV that way. That's not happening in the MVFC so it's not really a good comparison.

[clenz]

If big bad NDSU is afraid if Indiana State in a Thursday then there are some pretty serious mental complex issues to be looked at.


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[Sycamore62]

I wouldnt worry about what Kleman thinks. He wont be there much longer anyway

[CappinHard]

Any predictions for the game tonight? I see the spread is 17.5, but I feel like that's a touch high... maybe 14 would be right. Seems like Indiana State might have something this year, enough to at least stay within a couple scores. I'll go with UNI winning 35-21.

[Sycamore62]

Any predictions for the game tonight? I see the spread is 17.5, but I feel like that's a touch high... maybe 14 would be right. Seems like Indiana State might have something this year, enough to at least stay within a couple scores. I'll go with UNI winning 35-21.

It was 19.5 so thats good. If the OLine gets a push we will have a chance to make it close. Otherwise it might get out of hand

[Professor Chaos]

If big bad NDSU is afraid if Indiana State in a Thursday then there are some pretty serious mental complex issues to be looked at.


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xlolx

I wouldn't say afraid, I would say agitated.


I wouldnt worry about what Kleman thinks. He wont be there much longer anyway
Maybe he is the exception that really likes his team to stick to their road routine. I get the feeling he isn't but I'm sure it'll get worked out one way or another amongst the conference and member schools regardless of what I think the complaints will be.

[JayJ79]

I dont think we beat a UNI team that plays good.

I suppose there is a chance that UNI plays good this game, but it would be the first time this year that they do so (at least for a full game)

[cx500d]

I skipped down to post my theory, Thursday will keep us from fighting IU and Purdue within 1.5 hrs and Notre Dame which is closed enough for people to go to anywhere. they also have a lot of students go home, or did back in the day.

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We will have to play VERY good to win this. I dont think we beat a UNI team that plays.


FYP

[clenz]

Welp.....


This game shoulda been 45-3 at the end of 3. Instead it was 26-0 (I’m counting the FG 10 seconds into the 4th as part of it)


ISUb isn’t that good.

Or good at all.




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[clenz]

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[clenz]

Final

Indiana State had 90 second half yards

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[clenz]

Also to note for 4th and **** because he loves to dissect Dunne

3rd straight game over 200 yards.

Played 2 quarters against Iowa
Played 2.5 against Hampton
3.5 tonight but UNI essentially stopped passing in the third

Of his 8 completions 5 were drops - 3 of those in his first 6 passes.


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[Schism55]

This indeed. I think the Trees might be pretty good this year. Now watch them lose to UNI by 45 xlolx
Welp, I wasn't too far off xeyebrowx

[Reign of Terrier]

I can't tell if people are sandbagging UNI or if this is part of a usual pattern that I'm ignorant of or if they are good this year.

Back to back shut outs isn't anything to sneeze at, even if the opponents aren't good. I watched a few plays of this game and UNI's run game looked solid but I also don't have a typical baseline to base that off of

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[Kemo]

I can't tell if people are sandbagging UNI or if this is part of a usual pattern that I'm ignorant of or if they are good this year.

Back to back shut outs isn't anything to sneeze at, even if the opponents aren't good. I watched a few plays of this game and UNI's run game looked solid but I also don't have a typical baseline to base that off of

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UNI generally likes to forget how to play football over the offseason, then quickly remembers when their backs are against the wall. This pattern has been as predictable as sunrises for almost a decade now.

[andthehomeofthe-BIZON-]

I can't tell if people are sandbagging UNI or if this is part of a usual pattern that I'm ignorant of or if they are good this year.

Back to back shut outs isn't anything to sneeze at, even if the opponents aren't good. I watched a few plays of this game and UNI's run game looked solid but I also don't have a typical baseline to base that off of

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UNI plays football every year like a a young stud has sex with an ugly broad who has a great body. Allow me to elaborate.

Usually starts off pretty weak. Lets face it, it's tough to get going at the beginning. After a little bit though things start going well. Tooo well and before they know it they're out of steam and spent, long before the "big moment" in the playoffs. They can't handle success which is why they're trying to lay the ugly broad to begin with.

2cents

[ST_Lawson]

UNI generally likes to forget how to play football over the offseason, then quickly remembers when their backs are against the wall. This pattern has been as predictable as sunrises for almost a decade now.

But then they periodically forget every now and then in some 4th quarter situations. Still a solid win for UNI...INSU isn't as bad as last year and they were held to a shutout.

[grizband]

Also, as evidenced in the Montana game, UNI seems to make great second half adjustments.

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[CappinHard]

Seems like Indiana State might have something this year, enough to at least stay within a couple scores.

Or.... Maybe it's the same old ISUb.

[Sycamore62]

We’re better. We just cant afford to lose any starters. That part is the same old stuff. I think we had a good coaching staff, they left for Georgia State then they hired a guy that was just coasting until his son got a job. You might note how the trajectory of program he left for (WKU) has gone since their newest coaching staff hire.

[RabidRabbit]

We’re better. We just cant afford to lose any starters. That part is the same old stuff. I think we had a good coaching staff, they left for Georgia State then they hired a guy that was just coasting until his son got a job. You might note how the trajectory of program he left for (WKU) has gone since their newest coaching staff hire.

InSU looked absolutely dominated in the trenches vs UNI. IMHO, UNI may not fair well vs a Dakota quality trenches. We’ll find out over their next 3 games.

UNI looked like NDSU(vs Delaware) or SDSU (vs Mont St) last night. Always a tough game vs Panthers!


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[Thumper 76]

InSU looked absolutely dominated in the trenches vs UNI. IMHO, UNI may not fair well vs a Dakota quality trenches. We’ll find out over their next 3 games.

UNI looked like NDSU(vs Delaware) or SDSU (vs Mont St) last night. Always a tough game vs Panthers!


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Their qb looked pretty good to me. If they could get him an o line they could be pretty solid.


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[Redbird 4th & short]

Also to note for 4th and **** because he loves to dissect Dunne

3rd straight game over 200 yards.

Played 2 quarters against Iowa
Played 2.5 against Hampton
3.5 tonight but UNI essentially stopped passing in the third

Of his 8 completions 5 were drops - 3 of those in his first 6 passes.


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not sure how you meant this ... But I was optimistic about Dunne and UNI. and had them 2nd best in MVFC pre-season. i was simply surprised they were struggling out of the gate .. particularly game 1.

[Grizalltheway]

not sure how you meant this ... But I was optimistic about Dunne and UNI. and had them 2nd best in MVFC pre-season. i was simply surprised they were struggling out of the gate .. particularly game 1.

To me they didn't look bad per se against the Griz, just unfocused and like they'd rather be doing anything other than playing a football game. At least in the first half.

[caribbeanhen]

InSU looked absolutely dominated in the trenches vs UNI. IMHO, UNI may not fair well vs a Dakota quality trenches. We’ll find out over their next 3 games.

UNI looked like NDSU(vs Delaware) or SDSU (vs Mont St) last night. Always a tough game vs Panthers!


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I lay money on Delaware beating Indiana State .... we will never see that game so it's a safe statement

[clenz]

To me they didn't look bad per se against the Griz, just unfocused and like they'd rather be doing anything other than playing a football game. At least in the first half.

That’s a farley team on the road early in the season.

Iowa was a complete **** show in the first half. Hampton at home was ugly for a quarter and a half. Then it kicked in. Last night UNI didn’t really look engaged until about mid point second quarter.

If this team could figure out how to play a first quarter it’s a dangerous team.

The while first half against Montana wasn’t great, the first quarter was the difference. After the first quarter it was 23-10 UNI - 23-0 after half.


Right now UNI hasn’t given up a point in 9 quarters overall and the last 10 against the FCS. The last 10 fcs quarters UNI has outscores opponents 100-0, out gained opponents 1,150-510, since his benching at Montana Dunne is 50-75 (67%) for 611 yards (200+ ypg and 12+ YPC).

I know it’s been Hampton and Indiana State as 8 of those quarters. But what we saw against Montana in the first half would’ve lost to both of them.

I don’t have a ton of hope for beating either DSU, but our defense is good enough to do it.


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[grizband]

That’s a farley team on the road early in the season.

Iowa was a complete **** show in the first half. Hampton at home was ugly for a quarter and a half. Then it kicked in. Last night UNI didn’t really look engaged until about mid point second quarter.

If this team could figure out how to play a first quarter it’s a dangerous team.

The while first half against Montana wasn’t great, the first quarter was the difference. After the first quarter it was 23-10 UNI - 23-0 after half.


Right now UNI hasn’t given up a point in 9 quarters overall and the last 10 against the FCS. The last 10 fcs quarters UNI has outscores opponents 100-0, out gained opponents 1,150-510, since his benching at Montana Dunne is 50-75 (67%) for 611 yards (200+ ypg and 12+ YPC).

I know it’s been Hampton and Indiana State as 8 of those quarters. But what we saw against Montana in the first half would’ve lost to both of them.

I don’t have a ton of hope for beating either DSU, but our defense is good enough to do it.

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Clenz, were you able to watch the UNI/Montana game? Unfortunately, I didn't have access to the game, and was surprised it went from such a beat down in the first half, to the Griz almost losing in the second half. However, your explanation above makes sense, as it was the same experience I noticed last night.

[clenz]

I didn’t. I was in Fargo and couldn’t find a stream to work. It was 16-0 so fast I didn’t even try to find a stream. Went to bed at half time ish) and woke up to see the final


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[grizband]

I didn’t. I was in Fargo and couldn’t find a stream to work. It was 16-0 so fast I didn’t even try to find a stream. Went to bed at half time ish) and woke up to see the final

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I had sort of the opposite experience. Was visiting family in Seattle, and noticed the Griz were up big, so I didn't make the trek out to find a bar playing the game. Then, after hanging out with family, I checked to see the Griz barely pulled it out.

[superman7515]

Lots of talk about how bad Indiana State is, how easy it was for #20 Northern Iowa to defeat them on the road in a short week, how it should have been even worse but UNI took it easy on them since they don't have the players to keep up in the MVFC...

So how far does #3 South Dakota State fall for needing OT to win at home?

xlolx

[Sycamore62]

Lots of talk about how bad Indiana State is, how easy it was for #20 Northern Iowa to defeat them on the road in a short week, how it should have been even worse but UNI took it easy on them since they don't have the players to keep up in the MVFC...

So how far does #3 South Dakota State fall for needing OT to win at home?

xlolx

We didnt lose 5 defensive starters this week

[JacksFan40]

Lots of talk about how bad Indiana State is, how easy it was for #20 Northern Iowa to defeat them on the road in a short week, how it should have been even worse but UNI took it easy on them since they don't have the players to keep up in the MVFC...

So how far does #3 South Dakota State fall for needing OT to win at home?

xlolx
It’s being discussed on the week score thread, I expect to fall 4-5 spots, though I’d say they deserve to drop 10 for that.

[superman7515]

Apparently the laughing emoji fails to get across that I'm just busting balls. Carry on.

[TheKingpin28]

It’s being discussed on the week score thread, I expect to fall 4-5 spots, though I’d say they deserve to drop 10 for that.

We have a gang of 6 and SDSU is in that gang. Most likely at the back of the line, but that is how I see it. Don't look now, but Towson is knocking on that door for entrance to the party.

[Professor Chaos]

NDSU beats UNI by 25 on the road, UNI beats Indiana St by 33 road, and Indiana St takes SDSU to OT on the road so NDSU will destroy SDSU at home right? Oh wait.... :p

[POD Knows]

NDSU beats UNI by 25 on the road, UNI beats Indiana St by 33 road, and Indiana St takes SDSU to OT on the road so NDSU will destroy SDSU at home right? Oh wait.... :pThat is a pretty good deal but did that NDSU win today ever feel like 25.

[Professor Chaos]

That is a pretty good deal but did that NDSU win today ever feel like 25.
It never did but that doesn't really discount how confounding the pretzel logic I laid out earlier is. It definitely illustrates how teams/games change week-to-week.