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smallcollegefbfan
September 25th, 2018, 05:30 PM
As I do every year I take a little time out of my schedule and try to put together top players to watch for each award. This has helped me determine players I need to scout for work and gives my friends here at AGS a chance to see how the awards may look.

Keep in mind that the official lists are done by Craig Haley at STATS but hopefully this shows names he could be considering and names that are popping up on the radar.

FCS NATIONAL AWARDS WATCH- SEPT 25

2018 PAYTON CANDIDATES
RB Bruce Anderson, North Dakota State, Sr.- 32 carries, 264 yards, 8.2ypc, 3 TD, 88 ypg, 3 catches, 29 yards, 1 TD in 3 games.
RB Dominick Bragalone, Lehigh, Sr.- 59 carries, 258 yards, 4.4ypc, 3 TD, 86ypg, 2 catches, 5 yards in 3 games.
QB Chandler Burks, Kennesaw State, Sr.- 23-36, 390 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 63.9%, 97.5ypg, 176.8 pass eff, 49 carries, 249 yards, 5.1ypc, 8 TD in 4 games.
QB Taryn Christion, South Dakota State, Sr.- 34-43, 651 yards, 9 TD, 79.1%, 325.5ypg, 275.3 pass eff, 9 carries, -1 yard, 1 TD in 2 games.
QB Case Cookus, Northern Arizona, Jr.- 24-34, 265 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, 70.6%, 88.3ypg, 143.7 pass eff, 2 carries, -23 yards in 3 games.
WR Davion Davis, Sam Houston State, Sr.- 19 catches, 189 yards, 9.9ypc, 2 TD, 63 ypg, 4 carries, 30 yards in 3 games.
RB Ra’Quanne Dickens, Incarnate Word, Sr.- 42 carries, 469 yards, 11.2ypc, 5 TD, 156.3ypg, 7 catches, 70 yards in 3 games.
WR Keelan Doss, UC Davis, Sr.- 32 catches, 264 yards, 8.2ypc, 1 TD, 66ypg in 4 games.
RB Zane Dudek, Yale, Soph.- 35 carries, 250 yards, 7.1ypc, 2 TD, 125ypg, 4 catches, 19 yards in 2 games.
RB Ryan Fulse, Wagner, Sr.- 97 carries, 660 yards, 6.8ypc, 5 TD, 165ypg, 7 catches, 72 yards, 10.3ypc in 4 games.
QB Gage Gubrud, Eastern Washington, Sr.-72-119, 1105 yards, 13 TD, 4 INT, 60.5%, 276.2ypg, 167.8 pass eff, 23 carries, 135 yards, 1 TD in 4 games.
QB Devlin Hodges, Samford, Sr.- 139-200, 1471 yards, 11 TD, 8 INT, 69.5%, 367.8ypg, 141.4 pass eff, 17 carries, 76 yards, 1 TD in 4 games.
WR Alexander Hollins, Eastern Illinois, Sr.- 34 catches, 500 yards, 14.7ypc, 7 TD, 125ypg in 4 games.
WR Jesper Horsted, Princeton, Sr.- 15 catches, 290 yards, 19.3ypc, 5 TD, 145ypg in 2 games.
QB Anthony Lawrence, San Diego, Sr.- 68-120, 826 yards, 4 TD, 4 INT, 56.7%, 275.3ypg, 118.8 pass eff, 7 carries, 17 yards, 1 TD in 3 games.
QB Jake Maier, UC Davis, Jr.- 108-185, 1198 yards, 7 TD, 2 INT, 58.4%, 299.5ypg, 123.1 pass eff, 12 carries, -44 yards in 4 games.
WR Kelvin McKnight, Samford, Sr.- 42 catches, 566 yards, 13.5ypc, 5 TD, 141.5ypg in 4 games.
WR Neil O’Connor, New Hampshire, Sr.- 17 catches, 230 yards, 13.5ypc, 1 TD, 76.7ypg in 3 games.
QB Lamar Raynard, North Carolina A&T, Sr.- 40-93, 363 yards, 4 TD, 4 INT, 43%, 90.8ypg, 81.4 pass eff, 19 carries, 35 yards, 1 TD in 4 games.
QB Daniel Smith, Campbell, Soph.- 68-111, 922 yards, 7 TD, 2 INT, 61.3%, 230.5 ypg, 148.2 pass eff, 38 carries, 209 yards, 5 TD in 4 games.
WR Nathan Stewart, Sam Houston State, Jr.- 20 catches, 307 yards, 15.4ypc, 102.3ypg in 3 games.
QB Easton Stick, North Dakota State, Sr.- 31-52, 490 yards, 3 TD, 59.6%, 163.3ypg, 157.8 pass eff, 10 carries, 96 yards, 4 TD in 3 games.

ADDED
RB Ra’Quanne Dickens, Incarnate Word, Sr.- 42 carries, 469 yards, 11.2ypc, 5 TD, 156.3ypg, 7 catches, 70 yards in 3 games.
RB Ryan Fulse, Wagner, Sr.- 97 carries, 660 yards, 6.8ypc, 5 TD, 165ypg, 7 catches, 72 yards, 10.3ypc in 4 games.
WR Alexander Hollins, Eastern Illinois, Sr.- 34 catches, 500 yards, 14.7ypc, 7 TD, 125ypg in 4 games.
QB Daniel Smith, Campbell, Soph.- 68-111, 922 yards, 7 TD, 2 INT, 61.3%, 230.5 ypg, 148.2 pass eff, 38 carries, 209 yards, 5 TD in 4 games.

REMOVED
QB Trevor Knight, New Hampshire, Sr.- Removed due to injury
QB Brad Mayes, Lehigh, Sr.- 67-118, 643 yards, 2 TD, 5 INT, 56.7%, 160.7ypg, 99.67 pass eff, 26 carries, -29 yards in 4 games.

CONSIDERED
WR Dejon Brissett, Richmond, Sr.- 16 catches, 304 yards, 19.0ypg, 1 TD, 101.3ypg, 4 KR, 206 yds, 51.5avg, 1 TD in 3 games.
WR Emmanuel Butler, Northern Arizona, Sr.- 14 catches, 271 yards, 19.4ypc, 3 TD, 67.8ypg in 4 games.
WR Nehari Crawford, Duquesne, Sr.- 32 catches, 536 yards, 16.8ypc, 6 TD, 107.2ypg, 2 PR, 43 yards, 21.5avg, 1 TD in 5 games.
RB Wesley Dugger, Davidson, Soph.- 75 carries, 538 yards, 7.2ypc, 6 TD, 134.5ypg in 4 games.
QB Shelton Eppler, Northwestern State, Jr.- 60-95, 842 yards, 10 TD, 63.2%, 280.7ypg, 172.3 pass eff, 5 carries, -7 yards in 3 games.
WR Jazz Ferguson, Northwestern State, Jr.- 15 catches, 345 yards, 23.0ypc, 4 TD, 115ypg in 3 games.
WR Mitch Gueller, Idaho State, Jr.- 13 catches, 345 yards, 26.5ypc, 3 TD, 115ypg in 3 games.
RB Pete Guerriero, Monmouth, Soph.- 59 carries, 462 yards, 7.8ypc, 4 TD, 115.5 ypg, 7 catches, 42 yards, 1 TD, 3 KR, 47 yards in 4 games.
WR Cade Johnson, South Dakota State, Soph.- 14 catches, 300 yards, 21.4ypc, 6 TD, 150ypg in 2 games.
QB JaJuan Lawson, Rhode Island, Sr.- 58-83, 838 yards, 9 TD, 2 INT, 69.9%, 279.3ypg, 185.65 pass eff, 28 carries, 122 yards, 2 TD in 3 games.
QB John Lovett, Princeton, Sr.- 32-47, 509 yards, 7 TD, 68.1%, 254.5ypg, 208.2 pass eff, 16 carries, 119 yards, 3 TD in 2 games.
QB Brad Mayes, Lehigh, Sr.- 31-52, 267 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 59.6%, 133.5ypg, 105.2 pass eff, 9 carries, -21 yards in 2 games.
RB Tevin McCaster, Youngstown State, Sr.- 68 carries, 379 yards, 5.6ypc, 3 TD, 126.3ypg, 2 catches, 19 yards in 3 games.
QB Sean McGuire, Western Illinois, Sr.- 70-112, 800 yards, 7 TD, 5 INT, 62.5%, 266.7ypg, 134.2 pass eff, 15 carries, -20 yards in 3 games.
RB Sam McPherson, Eastern Washington, Sr.- 62 carries, 502 yards, 8.1ypc, 3 TD, 125.5ypg, 6 catches, 39 yards in 4 games.
WR Bryce Nunnelly, Chattanooga, Soph.- 30 catches, 654 yards, 21.8ypc, 4 TD, 163.5ypg in 4 games.
TE Donald Parham, Stetson, Sr.- 21 catches, 337 yards, 16.0ypc, 4 TD, 112.3ypg in 3 games.
FB Joe Protheroe, Cal Poly, Sr.- 113 carries, 521 yards, 4.6ypc, 4 TD, 130.2ypg, 1 catch, 1 yard in 4 games.
RB Marquis Terry, Southeast Missouri State, Sr.- 67 carries, 648 yards, 9.7ypc, 6 TD, 162ypg, 8 catches, 48 yards in 4 games.
RB Dawonya Tucker, Prairie View A&M, Jr.- 76 carries, 723 yards, 9.5ypc, 4 TD, 144.6ypg, 11 catches, 49 yards in 5 games.
WR Josh Wilkes, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Jr.- 18 catches, 500 yards, 27.8ypc, 4 TD, 166.7ypg in 3 games.

PAYTON TOP 5 (ALPHA ORDER)
QB Taryn Christion, South Dakota State, Sr.- 34-43, 651 yards, 9 TD, 79.1%, 325.5ypg, 275.3 pass eff, 9 carries, -1 yard, 1 TD in 2 games.
RB Ryan Fulse, Wagner, Sr.- 97 carries, 660 yards, 6.8ypc, 5 TD, 165ypg, 7 catches, 72 yards, 10.3ypc in 4 games.
QB Gage Gubrud, Eastern Washington, Sr.-72-119, 1105 yards, 13 TD, 4 INT, 60.5%, 276.2ypg, 167.8 pass eff, 23 carries, 135 yards, 1 TD in 4 games.
WR Kelvin McKnight, Samford, Sr.- 42 catches, 566 yards, 13.5ypc, 5 TD, 141.5ypg in 4 games.
QB Easton Stick, North Dakota State, Sr.- 31-52, 490 yards, 3 TD, 59.6%, 163.3ypg, 157.8 pass eff, 10 carries, 96 yards, 4 TD in 3 games.


2018 BUCK BUCHANAN CANDIDATES
S Nasir Adderley, Delaware, Sr.- 26 TKL, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 1 FR, 1 FF in 4 games.
LB Bryson Armstrong, Kennesaw State, Soph.- 21 TKL, 1.5 TFL, 0.5 SCK, 1 PBU in 4 games.
LB BJ Blunt, McNeese State, Sr.- 24 TKL, 6 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FR in 4 games.
LB Josh Buss, Montana, Sr.- 24 TKL, 5.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 4 games.
LB De’Arius Christmas, Grambling State, Sr.- 16 TKL, 2 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 INT, 2 QBH, 1 BLK in 3 games.
LB Thomas Costigan, Bryant, Sr.- 43 TKL, 3.5 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 INT, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FF in 4 games.
LB Jabril Cox, North Dakota State, Soph.- 15 TKL, 1 TFL, 2 INT/returned one for a TD, 3 QBH in 3 games.
DE Ahmad Gooden, Samford, Sr.- 12 TT, 3.5 TFL, 1 SACK, 3 PBU, 2 QBH in 4 games.
DE Darin Greenfield, South Dakota, Jr.- 14 TKL, 5.5 TFL, 3 SACKS, 1 QBH in 3 games.
DE Darryl Johnson, North Carolina A&T, Jr.- 18 TKL, 7 TFL, 5 SACKS, 1 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FF in 4 games.
LB Da’Jon Lee, Saint Francis (PA), Jr.- 28 TKL, 10 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 FF in 4 games.
DE Greg Menard, North Dakota State, Sr.- 7 TKL, 3 TFL, 2 SACKS, 1 PBU, 2 QBH in 3 games.
LB Warren Messer, Elon, Sr.- 23 TKL, 2 TFL in 3 games.
CB Jimmy Moreland, James Madison, Sr.- 14 TKL, 2 TFL, 3 INT/returned two for a TD, 2 PBU, 1 QBH in 4 games.
LB Dante Olson, Montana, Jr.- 55 TKL, 7 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 2 INT, 3 PBU, 3 QBH, 1 FF in 4 games.
LB Rickey Neal, Northern Iowa, Sr.- 15 TKL, 3 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FF, 1 BLK in 3 games.
DE Aaron Patrick, Eastern Kentucky, Jr.- 19 TKL, 5.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 7 QBH in 4 games.
LB Christian Rozeboom, South Dakota State, Jr.- 8 TKL, 1 TFL, 1 FR, 1 FF in 2 games.
DT Khalen Saunders, Western Illinois, Sr.- 17 TKL, 3.5 TFL, 1 SACK, 2 QBH in 3 games.
LB Sterling Sheffield, Maine, Sr.- 26 TKL, 7.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 3 games.
DE Chris Terrell, Central Arkansas, Jr.- 12 TKL, 2.5 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 FR in 3 games.
DE Jaison Williams, Austin Peay, Jr.- 19 TKL, 6.5 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 QBH in 4 games.

ADDED
LB BJ Blunt, McNeese State, Sr.- 24 TKL, 6 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FR in 4 games.
LB Da’Jon Lee, Saint Francis (PA), Jr.- 28 TKL, 10 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 FF in 4 games.
CB Jimmy Moreland, James Madison, Sr.- 14 TKL, 2 TFL, 3 INT/returned two for a TD, 2 PBU, 1 QBH in 4 games.
LB Dante Olson, Montana, Jr.- 55 TKL, 7 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 2 INT, 3 PBU, 3 QBH, 1 FF in 4 games.
DE Aaron Patrick, Eastern Kentucky, Jr.- 19 TKL, 5.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 7 QBH in 4 games.
LB Sterling Sheffield, Maine, Sr.- 26 TKL, 7.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 3 games.

REMOVED
S Marlon Bridges, Jacksonville State, Jr.- 9 TKL in 2 games. Removed due to injury
DE Miles Brown, Wofford, Sr.- 4 TKL in 2 games. Removed due to injury
CB Rashad Robinson, James Madison, Sr.- Removed due to injury
S Rob Rolle, Villanova, Sr.- 19 TKL in 3 games.

CONSIDERED
LB Ryan Brady, Holy Cross, Sr.- 57 TKL, 10 TFL, 2 SACKS, 1 QBH, 1 FR in 4 games.
CB Jordan Brown, South Dakota State, Sr.- 7 TKL, 1 TFL, 1 INT in 2 games.
DE Ron’Dell Carter, James Madison, Jr.- 12 TKL, 5 TFL, 2 SACKS, 1 QBH in 4 games.
LB Marshall Cooper, Chattanooga, Jr.- 42 TKL, 1.5 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 1 FF in 4 games.
CB Adonis Davis, Abilene Christian, Jr.- 11 TKL, 2 INT, 5 PBU in 4 games.
LB Quinlen Dean, New Hampshire, Jr.- 31 TKL, 6.5 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FF in 3 games.
LB Cameron Gill, Wagner, Jr.- 20 TKL, 8.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 5 QBH, 1 FF, 1 BLK in 4 games.
S Robbie Grimsley, North Dakota State, Sr.- 22 TKL, 1.5 TFL, 1 INT, 1 PBU in 3 games.
CB Deion Harris, North Dakota, Sr.- 13 TKL, 2 TFL, 4 PBU in 4 games.
DT Eric Jackson, Central Arkansas, Sr.- 11 TKL, 3 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 FR, 1 FF in 3 games.
LB Rico Kennedy, Morgan State, Jr.- 24 TKL, 6 TFL, 2.5 SCK, 1 PBU, 3 QBH in 4 games.
DE Anthony Knighton, Southern Illinois, Soph.- 9 TKL, 4.5 TFL, 3 SACKS, 2 PBU, 2 QBH in 3 games.
DE Sully Laiche, Nicholls, Jr.- 19 TKL, 8 TFL, 4 SACKS in 4 games.
LB Shayne Lawless, Stony Brook, Sr.- 38 TKL, 5 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 INT, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FF in 4 games.
CB Franklin McCain, North Carolina A&T, Soph.- 24 TKL, 2 INT returned 1 for a TD, 5 PBU in 4 games.
LB Quentin Moon, Western Illinois, Sr.- 35 TKL, 0.5 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 3 games.
CB Kareem Orr, Chattanooga, Sr.- 23 TKL, 0.5 TFL, 3 INT, 1 FR in 4 games.
S Davanta Reynolds, North Carolina Central, Sr.- 25 TKL, 1 TFL, 1 PBU, 2 QBH in 3 games.
DE Cody Roscoe, McNeese, Soph.- 12 TKL, 5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 QBH in 4 games.
LB Gunnar Scholato, Austin Peay, Sr.- 34 TKL, 4 TFL, 1 SACK, 2 QBH in 4 games.
CB Donte Small, Morgan State, Soph.- 13 TKL, 4 INT/returned one for a TD, 6 PBU in 4 games.
DE Bryce Sterk, Montana State, Jr.- 18 TKL, 8.5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 QBH in 4 games.
CB Isiah Swann, Dartmouth, Jr.- 5 TKL, 4 INT, 2 PBU in 2 games.
S Marvin Tillman, Western Carolina, Sr.- 18 TKL, 1 TFL, 2 PBU in 3 games.
LB LeGrand Toia, Weber State, Sr.- 33 TKL, 7 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 3 QBH in 4 games.
LB Langston Tunson, Houston Baptist, Soph.- 53 TKL, 8.5 TFL, 3 SACKS, 1 INT, 1 FR in 3 games.
DE Nick Wheeler, Colgate, Jr.- 18 TKL, 6.5 TFL, 4 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 3 games.
LB Jacques Williams, Western Carolina, Sr.- 22 TKL, 6 TFL, 4 SACKS, 5 QBH in 3 games.

BUCHANAN TOP 5 (ALPHA ORDER)
LB Josh Buss, Montana, Sr.- 24 TKL, 5.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 4 games.
DE Darryl Johnson, North Carolina A&T, Jr.- 18 TKL, 7 TFL, 5 SACKS, 1 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FF in 4 games.
CB Jimmy Moreland, James Madison, Sr.- 14 TKL, 2 TFL, 3 INT/returned two for a TD, 2 PBU, 1 QBH in 4 games.
LB Dante Olson, Montana, Jr.- 55 TKL, 7 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 2 INT, 3 PBU, 3 QBH, 1 FF in 4 games.
LB Sterling Sheffield, Maine, Sr.- 26 TKL, 7.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 3 games.


JERRY RICE WATCH LIST
QB Zerrick Cooper, Jacksonville State- 50-79, 721 yards, 6 TD, 1 INT, 63.3%, 240.3ypg, 162.5 pass eff, 17 carries, 82 yards, 1 TD in 3 games.
RB Josh Davis, Weber State- 80 carries, 499 yards, 6.2ypc, 4 TD, 166.3ypg, 6 catches, 34 yards in 3 games.
WR Dev Holmes, Albany- 28 catches, 587 yards, 21.0ypc, 4 TD, 146.8ypg, 1 carry, 8 yards in 4 games.
RB Quay Holmes, ETSU- 70 carries, 324 yards, 4.6ypc, 4 TD, 81ypg, 8 catches, 35 yards in 4 games.
DE Mitchell Johnson, Eastern Washington- 13 TKL, 7 TFL, 4 SACKS, 1 FF in 4 games.
CB Ronald Kent Jr, Western Carolina- 14 TKL, 2 TFL, 7 PBU in 3 games.
LB Chris Kolarevic, Northern Iowa- 31 TKL, 2 TFL, 1 INT, 2 PBU in 3 games.

ADDED
QB Zerrick Cooper, Jacksonville State- 50-79, 721 yards, 6 TD, 1 INT, 63.3%, 240.3ypg, 162.5 pass eff, 17 carries, 82 yards, 1 TD in 3 games.
RB Josh Davis, Weber State- 80 carries, 499 yards, 6.2ypc, 4 TD, 166.3ypg, 6 catches, 34 yards in 3 games.
WR Dev Holmes, Albany- 28 catches, 587 yards, 21.0ypc, 4 TD, 146.8ypg, 1 carry, 8 yards in 4 games.
RB Quay Holmes, ETSU- 70 carries, 324 yards, 4.6ypc, 4 TD, 81ypg, 8 catches, 35 yards in 4 games.
DE Mitchell Johnson, Eastern Washington- 13 TKL, 7 TFL, 4 SACKS, 1 FF in 4 games.
CB Ronald Kent Jr, Western Carolina- 14 TKL, 2 TFL, 7 PBU in 3 games.
LB Chris Kolarevic, Northern Iowa- 31 TKL, 2 TFL, 1 INT, 2 PBU in 3 games.

OTHERS CONSIDERED
RB Ulonzo Gilliam, UC Davis- 60 carries, 268 yards, 4.5ypc, 5 TD, 67ypg, 17 catches, 176 yards, 2 TD in 4 games.

grizband
September 25th, 2018, 05:48 PM
Love that Montana has two linebackers on the Buchanan list.

In your opinion, what's the chances Dalton Sneed is added to this list for Payton consideration?

Silenoz
September 25th, 2018, 05:54 PM
Two LB from the same team in the top five? When's the last time that ever happened?

Also, yeah. Sneed. :p

Professor Chaos
September 25th, 2018, 05:57 PM
Cox, the LB from NDSU, has returned both his INTs for TDs. Someone joked on Bisonville (or maybe it was here) that he currently leads the team in TD receptions (which is true).

He won't have the numbers to be a legit contender for the Buchanan but damn is he talented... and he's only a sophomore.

ST_Lawson
September 25th, 2018, 06:03 PM
Might want to consider keeping an eye on McShane (the WR at UNI, not the RB at WIU) for the Rice Award. Still early, but he's leading the team in receiving yards and is crazy fast.


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Professor Chaos
September 25th, 2018, 06:05 PM
Might want to consider keeping an eye on McShane (the WR at UNI, not the RB at WIU) for the Rice Award. Still early, but he's leading the team in receiving yards and is crazy fast.


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Is he from the south? ;)

ST_Lawson
September 25th, 2018, 06:07 PM
Is he from the south? ;)

Oddly enough, nope...just a very fast pretzel.

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Redbird 4th & short
September 25th, 2018, 07:20 PM
ISUr JR RB James Robinson (5'10 220 lbs with break away speed and loves contact) must be added to list .. he only gets 15 carries per game because he shares backfield reps with Markel Smith and Jordan Birch. Here are stats .. getting 8.3 yards per carry this year after 3 games .. including identical 8.3 against CSU.

Year gp att gain loss net avg td lg avg/g
2017 11 165 997 64 933 5.7 12 87 84.8
2018 3 46 390 8 382 8.3 5 57 127.3

With new OC and shored up OL loaded with underclassmen, he is going to put up crazy yards per carry this and next year.

JSUSoutherner
September 25th, 2018, 07:38 PM
Someone you might want to add to your watch list is WR Josh Pearson. 362 yards, 5 TD, 120.7 YPG through 3 games. On pace for a monster season with Zerrick.

lionsrking2
September 25th, 2018, 09:09 PM
Chason Virgil belongs on this list over some of the other QBs on it.

FUBeAR
September 25th, 2018, 11:41 PM
JERRY RICE WATCH LIST
QB Zerrick Cooper, Jacksonville State- 50-79, 721 yards, 6 TD, 1 INT, 63.3%, 240.3ypg, 162.5 pass eff, 17 carries, 82 yards, 1 TD in 3 games.
Just for fun, can you ADD and then REMOVE (due to injury) R-FR QB Robert Riddle from Mercer...

Passing


#
Player
GP
Rating
COMP
ATT
INT
%
YDS
TD
Long
AVG/G


10
Riddle, Robert
4 (Split Time in 1st 2 games)
149.79
66
101
3
65.35 %
851
6
73
212.75



Rushing


#
Player
GP
ATT
Gain
Loss
Net
AVG
TD
Long
AVG/G


10
Riddle, Robert
4
20
86
34
52
2.6
3
20
13.00



Looked like he was going to be the 'missing link' for Mercer this season, but he broke his collar bone in the last :22 of the game with The Citadel while driving the Bears down the field (had already covered 40 yards in 30 seconds/6 plays and was at the CIT 35 with 2nd & 10 and 1 timeout) for the potential game-winning or tying score. He had just taken them 75 yards in 7 plays/1:11 to tie the game in the previous series, but, alas, the Bears gave up a KOR TD forcing him to have to do it again...until the big, mean bellhop grabbed him and jumped on him (legally in the NCAA...but not in the NFL these days :-)) as he threw the ball away to avoid a 1st down sack.

Barring this injury, I really do think he would have been the Jerry Rice Award Winner. Very special Player!

grizband
September 26th, 2018, 12:06 AM
Just for fun, can you ADD and then REMOVE (due to injury) R-FR QB Robert Riddle from Mercer...

Passing


#
Player
GP
Rating
COMP
ATT
INT
%
YDS
TD
Long
AVG/G


10
Riddle, Robert
4 (Split Time in 1st 2 games)
149.79
66
101
3
65.35 %
851
6
73
212.75



Rushing


#
Player
GP
ATT
Gain
Loss
Net
AVG
TD
Long
AVG/G


10
Riddle, Robert
4
20
86
34
52
2.6
3
20
13.00



Looked like he was going to be the 'missing link' for Mercer this season, but he broke his collar bone in the last :22 of the game with The Citadel while driving the Bears down the field (had already covered 40 yards in 30 seconds/6 plays and was at the CIT 35 with 2nd & 10 and 1 timeout) for the potential game-winning or tying score. He had just taken them 75 yards in 7 plays/1:11 to tie the game in the previous series, but, alas, the Bears gave up a KOR TD forcing him to have to do it again...until the big, mean bellhop grabbed him and jumped on him (legally in the NCAA...but not in the NFL these days :-)) as he threw the ball away to avoid a 1st down sack.

Barring this injury, I really do think he would have been the Jerry Rice Award Winner. Very special Player!
Wow, that's a bummer! I sincerely hope he heals ok!

World
September 26th, 2018, 01:30 AM
Look for the best player in the FCS to be moved up within the next few weeks from "Considered"

QB John Lovett, Princeton, Sr.- 32-47, 509 yards, 7 TD, 68.1%, 254.5ypg, 208.2 pass eff, 16 carries, 119 yards, 3 TD in 2 games.

Gangtackle11
September 26th, 2018, 07:44 AM
You might look at Nova QB Zach Bednarczyk.

Also frosh CB William Benford is having a great start to his career.

smallcollegefbfan
September 26th, 2018, 10:58 AM
Love that Montana has two linebackers on the Buchanan list.

In your opinion, what's the chances Dalton Sneed is added to this list for Payton consideration?

A couple more good games and he will. Buss and Olson deserve it. Both of them are next level guys who are dominating the Big Sky right now. I tried not to do so but every week they are putting up the type of numbers that a Buck Buchanan Award finalist should put up.

smallcollegefbfan
September 26th, 2018, 11:00 AM
Someone you might want to add to your watch list is WR Josh Pearson. 362 yards, 5 TD, 120.7 YPG through 3 games. On pace for a monster season with Zerrick.

I thought about him. One more big game and I will. I saw him against NCAT and he is good.

smallcollegefbfan
September 26th, 2018, 11:01 AM
Chason Virgil belongs on this list over some of the other QBs on it.

I saw him play and he looked okay against LSU but not great. I do think he has a shot. Just needs to limit those picks. For me to add a new player they need to have a small number of picks and a couple weeks without one or just one over the next 3 games or so with several TDs and he should be added.

smallcollegefbfan
September 26th, 2018, 11:03 AM
Look for the best player in the FCS to be moved up within the next few weeks from "Considered"

QB John Lovett, Princeton, Sr.- 32-47, 509 yards, 7 TD, 68.1%, 254.5ypg, 208.2 pass eff, 16 carries, 119 yards, 3 TD in 2 games.

Don't make statements like that unless you have seen everyone in FCS. Lovett is good for sure and a great athlete but don't think he is a top 10 or 20 player in FCS quite yet. He is probably the 2nd best player on the Princeton offense to be honest. I love Horsted. He can play.

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You might look at Nova QB Zach Bednarczyk.

Also frosh CB William Benford is having a great start to his career.

QB is on radar. Have not looked at the CB yet but will.

JSUSoutherner
September 26th, 2018, 11:19 AM
I thought about him. One more big game and I will. I saw him against NCAT and he is good.

I figured he was close to making the cut. Just making sure he was on your radar.

Derby City Duke
September 26th, 2018, 11:31 AM
Jimmy Moreland has a chance to win some votes this weekend playing against Richmond's athletic receiving corps. One of the guys had 12 for 180 last year (with Lauletta @ QB, mind you).

Has had a pick 6 in his last 2 games. Seems to be filling the void left when A/A CB Rashad Robinson went down for the year with a foot injury.

Go Green
September 26th, 2018, 07:12 PM
Look for the best player in the FCS to be moved up within the next few weeks from "Considered"


CB Isiah Swann, Dartmouth, Jr.- 5 TKL, 4 INT, 2 PBU in 2 games.


FTFY.

He's gotten Ivy Defensive Player of the Week both weeks of play.

Go Green
September 26th, 2018, 07:13 PM
Don't make statements like that unless you have seen everyone in FCS.

Ok fair enough.

But I genuinely don't know what else Swann can do to impress...

wcugrad95
September 26th, 2018, 08:28 PM
He'll need some big games against some better competition, but QB Tyrie Adams from WCU accounted for over 3000 yards last year and he is on pace to account for over 3300 and 33 TDs this season. Through 3 games:
Passing: 51-83 for 599 yards and 5 TDs with 2 INT; efficiency 137.13 and right at 200 yds per game / Rushing: 46 for 304 (6.6 YPC even with 3 sacks figured in) and 4 TDs; 101.3 per game
Total: 903 yards and 9 TDs (over 300 yards and 3 TDs per game)

And pretty much every team goes in to every game trying to key on and stop him. He might not stay on the list, but those are stats that should at least be out there for discussion.

World
September 27th, 2018, 11:37 AM
Don't make statements like that unless you have seen everyone in FCS. Lovett is good for sure and a great athlete but don't think he is a top 10 or 20 player in FCS quite yet. He is probably the 2nd best player on the Princeton offense to be honest. I love Horsted. He can play.

- - - Updated - - -



QB is on radar. Have not looked at the CB yet but will.


I think you might have missed my comments

Princeton's QB John Lovett is the best player in the FCS

World
September 27th, 2018, 11:42 AM
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by World http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?p=2680511#post2680511)
Look for the best player in the FCS to be moved up within the next few weeks from "Considered"

CB Isiah Swann, Dartmouth, Jr.- 5 TKL, 4 INT, 2 PBU in 2 games.




Go Green, please explain why you have deleted part of my statement and entered your own words (in red bold) within my quote as to make it appear as though I posted that statement on Swann?

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 11:44 AM
I think you might have missed my comments

Princeton's QB John Lovett is the best player in the FCS

Who knew an Ivy Leaguer could be so clueless. xrolleyesx

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 11:54 AM
I think you might have missed my comments

Princeton's QB John Lovett is the best player in the FCS

You are so wrong it is not even funny.

Gage Gubrud QB EWU
Larry Allen III OL Harvard
De'Arius Christmas LB Grambling St
Marlon Bridges DB JSU
Dom Bragalone RB Lehigh
Chandler Burks QB KSU
Bruce Anderson RB NDSU
Jabril Cox LB NDSU
Robbie Grimsley DB NDSU
Ahmad Gooden DT Samford
Nathan Stewart WR SHSU
Christian "Ankle Twister" Rozeboom LB SDSU
Taryn Christion QB SDSU
Chris Terrell DL UCA
Keelan Doss WR UC-Davis
John Santiago UND
Khalen Saunders DT WIU


Shall I continue or is this list of players better than Lovett good for you?

Thumper 76
September 27th, 2018, 11:55 AM
I think you might have missed my comments

Princeton's QB John Lovett is the best player in the FCS

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JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 11:56 AM
You are so wrong it is not even funny.

Gage Gubrud QB EWU
Larry Allen III OL Harvard
De'Arius Christmas LB Grambling St
Marlon Bridges DB JSU
Dom Bragalone RB Lehigh
Chandler Burks QB KSU
Bruce Anderson RB NDSU
Jabril Cox LB NDSU
Robbie Grimsley DB NDSU
Ahmad Gooden DT Samford
Nathan Stewart WR SHSU
Christian "Ankle Twister" Rozeboom LB SDSU
Taryn Christion QB SDSU
Chris Terrell DL UCA
Keelan Doss WR UC-Davis
John Santiago UND
Khalen Saunders DT WIU


Shall I continue or is this list of players better than Lovett good for you?

You left off Marlon Bridges, bro.

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 11:57 AM
You left off Marlon Bridges, bro.

Oh wait I can't read. Lmao

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 11:58 AM
You left off Marlon Bridges, bro.

Really? I did it by school and he is 4th from the top?

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 11:59 AM
Oh wait I can't read. Lmao

****, I just saw this now.

I think my list is more of a "players without a doubt and no one can disagree with, with room to expand for guys who can easily be on this list".

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 12:03 PM
****, I just saw this now.

I think my list is more of a "players without a doubt and no one can disagree with, with room to expand for guys who can easily be on this list".

Yeah there's definitely room for more names on that list.

The Princeton kid dumped on Monmouth. BFD.

World
September 27th, 2018, 12:05 PM
You are so wrong it is not even funny.

Gage Gubrud QB EWU
Larry Allen III OL Harvard
De'Arius Christmas LB Grambling St
Marlon Bridges DB JSU
Dom Bragalone RB Lehigh
Chandler Burks QB KSU
Bruce Anderson RB NDSU
Jabril Cox LB NDSU
Robbie Grimsley DB NDSU
Ahmad Gooden DT Samford
Nathan Stewart WR SHSU
Christian "Ankle Twister" Rozeboom LB SDSU
Taryn Christion QB SDSU
Chris Terrell DL UCA
Keelan Doss WR UC-Davis
John Santiago UND
Khalen Saunders DT WIU


Shall I continue or is this list of players better than Lovett good for you?


Well, thanks for the suggestions

We'll just have to see who gets the award at the end of the season for the best player in all of FCS

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 12:19 PM
Yeah there's definitely room for more names on that list.

The Princeton kid dumped on Monmouth. BFD.

I was just throwing names off the top of my head of players who I would put ahead without even having to do any research and analyze what they have done.

If these Ivy leaguers would play the rest of the FCS and show us what they are made of, then we could finally settle this once and for all. Hell NCAT had the balls to come and play JSU at Montgomery, and then got beat by an awful Morgan St, so why can't Princeton, Harvard, Dartmouth, Columbia, Yale, etc... come and do a H-H with NDSU, SDSU, JMU, etc...?

Go Green
September 27th, 2018, 12:21 PM
Go Green, please explain why you have deleted part of my statement and entered your own words (in red bold) within my quote as to make it appear as though I posted that statement on Swann?

Sure thing!

"FTFY" = "Fixed That For You."

You take out words from someone's quote, and insert your own.

wcugrad95
September 27th, 2018, 12:22 PM
Since my Tyrie Adams endorsement didn't get any good or bad response (or ANY response):

QB Chandler Burks, Kennesaw State, Sr.- 23-36, 390 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 63.9%, 97.5ypg, 176.8 pass eff, 49 carries, 249 yards, 5.1ypc, 8 TD in 4 games - accounted for 639 total yards (159.75/game & 2.75 TD/game)
QB Tyrie Adams, Western Carolina, Jr.- 51-83, 599 yards, 5 TD, 2 INT, 61.4%, 199.7ypg, 137.17 pass eff, 46 carries, 304 yards, 6.6ypc, 4 TD in 3 games - accounted for 903 total yards (301/game & 3 TD/game)

More passing yards, more rushing yards, more YPC, and 2 less total TDs in 1 less game. Like I said, I know it has been against the weakest part of our schedule, but I actually expect the Catamounts to lean more on Adams going forward. Even if he is below his season average against Furman his stats after 4 games will look even that much better than Burks after his first 4 games. I also don't see a murderer's row that KSU has played to date, either. So it should either hurt Burks or not be as a big a factor against Adams - it shouldn't be overlooked for 1 and factor against the other.

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 12:22 PM
Well, thanks for the suggestions

We'll just have to see who gets the award at the end of the season for the best player in all of FCS

You mean biggest stat whore, not best player, right? I just want to make sure you understand the Payton usually goes to the biggest stat whore, not best player. Streveler was the best player last year and yet Briscoe won it.

So, let's do a bet, I am a man of my word and I will put 100 dollars down that THE WALTER PAYTON AWARD will NOT go Lovett. What you say? Thumper can verify I pay up when I lose multple times to him. You are so high on him and you claim to know he is the best player, so let's see you man up and back your claims.

Go Green
September 27th, 2018, 12:25 PM
so why can't Princeton, Harvard, Dartmouth, Columbia, Yale, etc... come and do a H-H with NDSU, SDSU, JMU, etc...?

Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's not my impression that we are turning down invitations from those schools. Have they, in fact, reached out to us?

Supposedly, Rutgers offered to play Princeton for the 150th Anniversary of College Football. At the time, Rutgers was reasonably good and Princeton sucked. Princeton turned them down. Since then, the programs have headed in opposite directions. Princeton supposedly asked if the offer was still good, but Rutgers declined.

A shame it didn't happen...

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 12:28 PM
Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's not my impression that we are turning down invitations from those schools. Have they, in fact, reached out to us?

Supposedly, Rutgers offered to play Princeton for the 150th Anniversary of College Football. At the time, Rutgers was reasonably good and Princeton sucked. Princeton turned them down. Since then, the programs have headed in opposite directions. Princeton supposedly asked if the offer was still good, but Rutgers declined.

A shame it didn't happen...

I'm guessing the higher ups on this board who are TeamMakers who have a more direct line to Pat Simmers or Matt Larsen would have a better answer than I would, so I would defer it to them, but I know for a fact that when schools see a 701 number, they won't pick up or outright reject the call.

World
September 27th, 2018, 12:34 PM
You mean biggest stat whore, not best player, right? I just want to make sure you understand the Payton usually goes to the biggest stat whore, not best player. Streveler was the best player last year and yet Briscoe won it.

So, let's do a bet, I am a man of my word and I will put 100 dollars down that THE WALTER PAYTON AWARD will NOT go Lovett. What you say? Thumper can verify I pay up when I lose multple times to him. You are so high on him and you claim to know he is the best player, so let's see you man up and back your claims.


ha!

good one

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 12:35 PM
ha!

good one


I think you might have missed my comments

Princeton's QB John Lovett is the best player in the FCS

That's what I thought. You have no problem stating an opinion trying to pass it off as a fact, but when someone calls you out on it, you cower away. Why would you say he is the best player in the FCS and not have the confidence to back it up? I am astonished that you would not want to take this bet.

World
September 27th, 2018, 12:37 PM
That's what I thought. You have no problem stating an opinion trying to pass it off as a fact, but when someone calls you out on it, you cower away. Why would you say he is the best player in the FCS and not have the confidence to back it up? I am astonished that you would not want to take this bet.

Say, why don't you tell us who YOU think is the best player in the FCS?

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 12:38 PM
Say, why don't you tell us who YOU think is the best player in the FCS?

He gave you a list.

Professor Chaos
September 27th, 2018, 12:44 PM
You mean biggest stat whore, not best player, right? I just want to make sure you understand the Payton usually goes to the biggest stat whore, not best player. Streveler was the best player last year and yet Briscoe won it.

So, let's do a bet, I am a man of my word and I will put 100 dollars down that THE WALTER PAYTON AWARD will NOT go Lovett. What you say? Thumper can verify I pay up when I lose multple times to him. You are so high on him and you claim to know he is the best player, so let's see you man up and back your claims.
Ignore him.... you want to see something funny check out the love affair this guy had a few years back for a guy named Collin Keoshian, an Illinois St RB who was a JUCO transfer from Cali in the winter of 2012/13: http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?126201-Illinois-State-football-fans

From that thread (posted on 12/19/2012):

Great

Keoshian will be in the running for the Walter Payton award this coming Football season

Congratulations to Illinois State fans
Sound familiar?

Keoshian finished the 2013 season with 205 yards on 64 carries and 6 TDS (he did miss the last 4 games of the season so that's an average of about 30 yards per game). The next season he was sooooo good they moved him to DT. He did turn out to be a pretty decent DT on that 2014 national runner-up team though.

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 12:44 PM
Say, why don't you tell us who YOU think is the best player in the FCS?

The Walter Payton is an OFFENSIVE award

The Buck is a DEFENSIVE award

My Payton guy is TC as of right now.

My Buck guy is either Cox, Christmas, Gooden, or Olson (yes I know I did not include him in my list as that was just a starting point).

While I think LBs are probably the best players due to their abilities, best player overall is not a fair question, but since you want that, I will go with either TC or Gooden as of right now.


He gave you a list.

You can't fix stupid. You really can't.

World
September 27th, 2018, 12:48 PM
He gave you a list.

actually, I very very specifically asked for ONE player:

"Say, why don't you tell us who YOU think is the best player in the FCS?"

World
September 27th, 2018, 12:50 PM
The Walter Payton is an OFFENSIVE award

The Buck is a DEFENSIVE award

My Payton guy is TC as of right now.

My Buck guy is either Cox, Christmas, Gooden, or Olson (yes I know I did not include him in my list as that was just a starting point).

While I think LBs are probably the best players due to their abilities, best player overall is not a fair question, but since you want that, I will go with either TC or Gooden as of right now.



You can't fix stupid. You really can't.


You were asked for ONE player and ONE player only.

Why act like a "coward" as you have accused others, or are you seriously that stupid?

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 12:51 PM
actually, I very very specifically asked for ONE player:

"Say, why don't you tell us who YOU think is the best player in the FCS?"

So either come forward and take the bet or admit you are stating an opinion than cannot be backed up by any claim other than your own beliefs and move along. You claim he is the best and that "we will see" which implies you know he will win it, so if that's the case, this should be a for sure 100 dollars that you did not have. Come on, take it, it's free money according to your statements.

World
September 27th, 2018, 12:55 PM
So either come forward and take the bet or admit you are stating an opinion than cannot be backed up by any claim other than your own beliefs and move along. You claim he is the best and that "we will see" which implies you know he will win it, so if that's the case, this should be a for sure 100 dollars that you did not have. Come on, take it, it's free money according to your statements.


Quit acting like a coward. I will ask you again:

Why don't you tell us who YOU think is the best player in the FCS?

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 12:56 PM
Quit acting like a coward. I will ask you again:

Why don't you tell us who YOU think is the best player in the FCS?

Can you not read?


The Walter Payton is an OFFENSIVE award

The Buck is a DEFENSIVE award

My Payton guy is TC as of right now.

My Buck guy is either Cox, Christmas, Gooden, or Olson (yes I know I did not include him in my list as that was just a starting point).

While I think LBs are probably the best players due to their abilities, best player overall is not a fair question, but since you want that, I will go with either TC or Gooden as of right now.



You can't fix stupid. You really can't.

So now that I have done that, take this bet. Put your money where your mouth is.

Derby City Duke
September 27th, 2018, 01:16 PM
You are so wrong it is not even funny.

Gage Gubrud QB EWU
Larry Allen III OL Harvard
De'Arius Christmas LB Grambling St
Marlon Bridges DB JSU
Dom Bragalone RB Lehigh
Chandler Burks QB KSU
Bruce Anderson RB NDSU
Jabril Cox LB NDSU
Robbie Grimsley DB NDSU
Ahmad Gooden DT Samford
Nathan Stewart WR SHSU
Christian "Ankle Twister" Rozeboom LB SDSU
Taryn Christion QB SDSU
Chris Terrell DL UCA
Keelan Doss WR UC-Davis
John Santiago UND
Khalen Saunders DT WIU


Shall I continue or is this list of players better than Lovett good for you?

Al Bundy should be on this list too.

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 01:26 PM
Al Bundy should be on this list too.

Spare Tire Dixon, to this day, challenges the way the game ended.

World
September 27th, 2018, 01:26 PM
Can you not read?



So now that I have done that, take this bet. Put your money where your mouth is.


So now you are acting either like a coward or a moron

I have asked you for only ONE player that you think is the best player.

So grow some balls and provide just ONE player

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 01:30 PM
So now you are acting either like a coward or a moron

I have asked you for only ONE player that you think is the best player.

So grow some balls and provide just ONE player

TC. There you happy. Now grow up and take the bet like a man or walk away with your tail between your legs.

World
September 27th, 2018, 01:36 PM
TC. There you happy. Now grow up and take the bet like a man or walk away with your tail between your legs.


So finally, you grew some hair and are now stating that Taryn Christion QB SDSU is the best player in the FCS

Is this correct?

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 01:47 PM
So finally, you grew some hair and are now stating that Taryn Christion QB SDSU is the best player in the FCS

Is this correct?
No, he just said it for shiggles.

Either way claiming a best player, especially this early in the season is stupid. It's why SCFBF makes a list.

That said, you can very easily tell who isn't in the running. Take the NFL for example: Is Aaron Rodgers or Aaron Donald the best player in the NFL? You could argue either but you'll be met with laughter if you tried to argue for Blake Bortles.

World
September 27th, 2018, 01:50 PM
TC. There you happy. Now grow up and take the bet like a man or walk away with your tail between your legs.

I will ask you again


So finally, you grew some hair and are now stating that Taryn Christion QB SDSU is the best player in the FCS

Is this correct?

World
September 27th, 2018, 01:52 PM
No, he just said it for shiggles.

Either way claiming a best player, especially this early in the season is stupid. It's why SCFBF makes a list.

That said, you can very easily tell who isn't in the running. Take the NFL for example: Is Aaron Rodgers or Aaron Donald the best player in the NFL? You could argue either but you'll be met with laughter if you tried to argue for Blake Bortles.

So I take it, YOU are also a coward and can't name who you think is the best player in the FCS?

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 01:55 PM
So I take it, YOU are also a coward and can't name who you think is the best player in the FCS?

Gage Gubrud currently.

Subject to change.

Not sure why not having a favorite would make anyone a coward.

World
September 27th, 2018, 02:07 PM
Gage Gubrud currently.

Subject to change.

Not sure why not having a favorite would make anyone a coward.


Ok, so are you willing to bet $100 that Gage Gubrud wins as the best player in the FCS?

Again, under this bet you would lose the bet if ANY OTHER PLAYER WINS THE AWARD.

Or are you a coward and not willing to put your money where you mouth is?

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 02:16 PM
Ok, so are you willing to bet $100 that Gage Gubrud wins as the best player in the FCS?

Again, under this bet you would lose the bet if ANY OTHER PLAYER WINS THE AWARD.

Or are you a coward and not willing to put your money where you mouth is?

I'll bet you $100 for Gubrud if you bet me $10,000 for Lovett.

Thumper 76
September 27th, 2018, 02:41 PM
I'm guessing the higher ups on this board who are TeamMakers who have a more direct line to Pat Simmers or Matt Larsen would have a better answer than I would, so I would defer it to them, but I know for a fact that when schools see a 701 number, they won't pick up or outright reject the call.

Somewhat. The other thing that hampers ndsu is that they won’t schedule a home and home unless their road game is in a 12 game season.


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World
September 27th, 2018, 03:01 PM
I'll bet you $100 for Gubrud if you bet me $10,000 for Lovett.


Huh?

what?

again, showing signs of a coward that isn't willing to do an even bet for the player he believes is the best FCS player...

so again

so are you willing to bet $100 that Gage Gubrud wins as the best player in the FCS?

Again, under this bet you would lose the bet if ANY OTHER PLAYER WINS THE AWARD.

Or are you a coward and not willing to put your money where you mouth is?

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 03:02 PM
Huh?

what?

again, showing signs of a coward that isn't willing to do an even bet for the player he believes is the best FCS player...

so again

so are you willing to bet $100 that Gage Gubrud wins as the best player in the FCS?

Again, under this bet you would lose the bet if ANY OTHER PLAYER WINS THE AWARD.

Or are you a coward and not willing to put your money where you mouth is?
I said I'd bet you for Gubrud, but only if you quit being a hypocrite and put your money where your mouth is and bet me for Lovett as well.

Or are you coward?

World
September 27th, 2018, 03:04 PM
I said I'd bet you for Gubrud, but only if you quit being a hypocrite and put your money where your mouth is and bet me for Lovett as well.

Or are you coward?

huh?

this would be considered a COWARDLY bet for what say is the best player in the FCS

"I'll bet you $100 for Gubrud if you bet me $10,000 for Lovett."

That doesn't say much for your belief in Gubrud being the best player

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 03:06 PM
huh?

this would be considered a COWARDLY bet for what say is the best player in the FCS

"I'll bet you $100 for Gubrud if you bet me $10,000 for Lovett."

That doesn't say much for your belief in Gubrud being the best player

"Huh?”

"Huh?"

I can tell that Ivy League education is serving you well.

You asked me to pick one and I picked one. I said I'd bet on him.

Now hold up your end and bet on Lovett or GTFO. Hypocrite.

World
September 27th, 2018, 03:07 PM
You asked me to pick one and I picked one. I said I'd bet on him.

Now hold up your end and bet on Lovett or GTFO. Hypocrite.

huh?

so you will bet $10,000 for Gubrud, the one you consider is the best player?

and lose the whole $10,000 if anyone else wins the FCS best player?

sounds like a coward with no balls if you don't do this bet, according to you

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 03:10 PM
I said I'd bet you for Gubrud, but only if you quit being a hypocrite and put your money where your mouth is and bet me for Lovett as well.

Or are you coward?This is why I gave up. It's pointless and we called him out for his bull**** and now he is acting like an annoying 12yr old

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JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 03:10 PM
huh?

so you will bet $10,000 for Gubrud, the one you consider is the best player?

and lose the whole $10,000 if anyone else wins the FCS best player?

sounds like a coward with no balls if you don't this bet, according to you

"If you don't this bet"

Ivy League. Grade A.

I said I'd meet your terms for a Gubrud, now take mine for Lovett, coward.

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 03:15 PM
This is why I gave up. It's pointless and we called him out for his bull**** and now he is acting like an annoying 12yr old

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Maybe pointless, but work is slow right now so might as well have some fun.

Plus, it's always amazing to see an Ivy League mind at work. :D

World
September 27th, 2018, 03:19 PM
This is why I gave up. It's pointless and we called him out for his bull**** and now he is acting like an annoying 12yr old

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Speaking of cowards, why have you failed to respond to this question previously asked?


"So finally, you grew some hair and are now stating that Taryn Christion QB SDSU is the best player in the FCS

Is this correct?"

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 03:20 PM
Speaking of cowards, why have you failed to respond to this question previously asked?


"So finally, you grew some hair and are now stating that Taryn Christion QB SDSU is the best player in the FCS

Is this correct?"

You're a coward that won't bet on your own man

Is this correct?

World
September 27th, 2018, 03:25 PM
You're a coward that won't bet on your own man

Is this correct?

Ok, so are you willing to bet $100 that Gage Gubrud wins as the best player in the FCS?

Again, under this bet you would lose the bet if ANY OTHER PLAYER WINS THE AWARD.

Or are you a coward and not willing to put your money where you mouth is?

World
September 27th, 2018, 03:31 PM
TC. There you happy. Now grow up and take the bet like a man or walk away with your tail between your legs.



Ok, so are you willing to bet $100 that TC wins as the best player in the FCS?

Again, under this bet you would lose the bet if ANY OTHER PLAYER WINS THE AWARD.

Or are you a coward and not willing to put your money where you mouth is?

Now grow up and take the bet like a man or walk away with your tail between your legs.

ST_Lawson
September 27th, 2018, 03:35 PM
Dude, seriously...

He's not saying that Gubrud is the best player in the FCS. That's something that's impossible to know at this point. That's why your statement that your guy is the best player in the FCS makes so little sense. You might think that he's going to end up the best player...that's your opinion. Others are willing to put money down that your guy is not going to end up winning the Payton award, but nobody is going to put money down on who IS going to win the award...not at this point...it'd be stupid. People get hurt, crazy stuff happens, players just don't do as well as you think they will.
What he is saying is that he feels that the odds of Gubrud (or Christion) winning the Payton are much higher than Lovett winning it.

You want one name....THERE IS NO ONE NAME....that's why all reasonable people do a list at this point. Over the course of the season, people get added, people get dropped, the list gets more focused. When we get to the end, you can pretty much narrow it down to 2-3 usually. But it's all subjective anyway...the Payton Award is just one group of people's opinions.

Is Lovett good?....sure. Is he absolutely, without question, the best player in the FCS?...there's no way you can say that because there's no accurate way to measure that.
Do you think he's the best player in the FCS....yes.
Do I think he's the best player in the FCS...no....hell, I don't think he's the best QB in the FCS.

But that's fine, those are opinions. When you start stating opinion as absolute fact though, that's when you start coming off as someone who has no clue what they're talking about.

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 03:40 PM
Dude, seriously...

He's not saying that Gubrud is the best player in the FCS. That's something that's impossible to know at this point. That's why your statement that your guy is the best player in the FCS makes so little sense. You might think that he's going to end up the best player...that's your opinion. Others are willing to put money down that your guy is not going to end up winning the Payton award, but nobody is going to put money down on who IS going to win the award...not at this point...it'd be stupid. People get hurt, crazy stuff happens, players just don't do as well as you think they will.
What he is saying is that he feels that the odds of Gubrud (or Christion) winning the Payton are much higher than Lovett winning it.

You want one name....THERE IS NO ONE NAME....that's why all reasonable people do a list at this point. Over the course of the season, people get added, people get dropped, the list gets more focused. When we get to the end, you can pretty much narrow it down to 2-3 usually. But it's all subjective anyway...the Payton Award is just one group of people's opinions.

Is Lovett good?....sure. Is he absolutely, without question, the best player in the FCS?...there's no way you can say that because there's no accurate way to measure that.
Do you think he's the best player in the FCS....yes.
Do I think he's the best player in the FCS...no....hell, I don't think he's the best QB in the FCS.

But that's fine, those are opinions. When you start stating opinion as absolute fact though, that's when you start coming off as someone who has no clue what they're talking about.

Nope, you're a coward.


Ok, so are you willing to bet $100 that Gage Gubrud wins as the best player in the FCS?

Again, under this bet you would lose the bet if ANY OTHER PLAYER WINS THE AWARD.

Or are you a coward and not willing to put your money where you mouth is?

I'll bet you $100 for Gubrud if you bet me $10,000 for Lovett.

Huh?

what?


I said I'd bet you for Gubrud

huh?


I said I'd bet on him.


huh?



I said I'd meet your terms for a Gubrud bet

huh?



#IvyLeague

ST_Lawson
September 27th, 2018, 03:42 PM
Nope, you're a coward.
#IvyLeague

Apparently, yeah.

World
September 27th, 2018, 03:45 PM
Dude, seriously...

He's not saying that Gubrud is the best player in the FCS. That's something that's impossible to know at this point. That's why your statement that your guy is the best player in the FCS makes so little sense. You might think that he's going to end up the best player...that's your opinion. Others are willing to put money down that your guy is not going to end up winning the Payton award, but nobody is going to put money down on who IS going to win the award...not at this point...it'd be stupid. People get hurt, crazy stuff happens, players just don't do as well as you think they will.
What he is saying is that he feels that the odds of Gubrud (or Christion) winning the Payton are much higher than Lovett winning it.

You want one name....THERE IS NO ONE NAME....that's why all reasonable people do a list at this point. Over the course of the season, people get added, people get dropped, the list gets more focused. When we get to the end, you can pretty much narrow it down to 2-3 usually. But it's all subjective anyway...the Payton Award is just one group of people's opinions.

Is Lovett good?....sure. Is he absolutely, without question, the best player in the FCS?...there's no way you can say that because there's no accurate way to measure that.
Do you think he's the best player in the FCS....yes.
Do I think he's the best player in the FCS...no....hell, I don't think he's the best QB in the FCS.

But that's fine, those are opinions. When you start stating opinion as absolute fact though, that's when you start coming off as someone who has no clue what they're talking about.


You missed the whole point

the challenge of betting $100 if one player wins and losing the $100 if ANY OTHER PLAYER WINS, by any means a totally unfair bet

and then challenging by betting $100 for one player versus $10,000 for the other player

and calling the player a child and coward if he doesn't take this unfair bet

so all I did was turn the table

no more no less

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 03:48 PM
You missed the whole point

the challenge of betting $100 if one player wins and losing the $100 if ANY OTHER PLAYER WINS, by any means a totally unfair bet

and calling the player a child and coward if he doesn't take this unfair bet

so all I did was turn the table

no more no less
SO AGAIN,

Are you willing to put your money where your mouth is and bet John Lovett will win the award?

Or are you a coward?

World
September 27th, 2018, 03:51 PM
SO AGAIN,

Are you willing to put your money where your mouth is and bet John Lovett will win the award?

Or are you a coward?


SO Tell me,

Are you willing to put your money where your mouth is and bet Gage Gubrud will win the award?

Or are you a coward?

ST_Lawson
September 27th, 2018, 03:51 PM
You missed the whole point

the challenge of betting $100 if one player wins and losing the $100 if ANY OTHER PLAYER WINS, by any means a totally unfair bet

and calling the player a child and coward if he doesn't take this unfair bet

so all I did was turn the table

no more no less

Fine, you were turning the tables. The thing is, you were the one stating opinion as fact. Nobody else was saying that their player was 100% without a doubt the best player in the FCS.
We're just saying there's no way to know that he's the best player, and we think that there's at least a few other players that, at this point, look to be stronger candidates.

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 03:53 PM
SO Tell me,

Are you willing to put your money where your mouth is and bet Gage Gubrud will win the award?

Or are you a coward?
You must be braindead. No wonder you went to Princeton.



I'll bet you $100 for Gubrud if you bet me $10,000 for Lovett.

Huh?

what?


I said I'd bet you for Gubrud

huh?


I said I'd bet on him.


huh?



I said I'd meet your terms for a Gubrud bet

huh?

World
September 27th, 2018, 03:53 PM
Fine, you were turning the tables. The thing is, you were the one stating opinion as fact. Nobody else was saying that their player was 100% without a doubt the best player in the FCS.
We're just saying there's no way to know that he's the best player, and we think that there's at least a few other players that, at this point, look to be stronger candidates.

and yet, that is not what I was commenting on, was it?

I was commenting on the challenge of the unfair bet and then getting attacked and insulted for not taking the unfair bet..

World
September 27th, 2018, 03:54 PM
You must be braindead. No wonder you went to Princeton.

huh?

what part of this cowardly bet by you do you not understand?

"I'll bet you $100 for Gubrud if you bet me $10,000 for Lovett."

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 03:57 PM
huh?

what part of this cowardly bet by you do you not understand?

"I'll bet you $100 for Gubrud if you bet me $10,000 for Lovett."

I get that you're a coward because you won't bet on Lovett.

If you disagree, you're more than welcome to write a 125 page thesis explaining why you think you aren't a coward.

ST_Lawson
September 27th, 2018, 03:57 PM
and yet, that is not what I was commenting on, was it?

I was commenting on the challenge of the unfair bet and then getting attacked and insulted for not taking the unfair bet..

Yes, the bet is unfair. It's unfair because you're the one making the statement that your QB is the best. Nobody else was saying that Gubrud is the absolute best, or Christion, or anyone else.
If you're going to make a statement like that, you are going to get challenged on it. That's all the bet terms were....a challenge.

It's a stupid bet because it was a stupid statement.

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 03:58 PM
Yes, the bet is unfair. It's unfair because you're the one making the statement that your QB is the best. Nobody else was saying that Gubrud is the absolute best, or Christion, or anyone else.
If you're going to make a statement like that, you are going to get challenged on it. That's all the bet terms were....a challenge.

It's a stupid bet because it was a stupid statement.

I agreed to the price he set. It's not my fault he's a coward and didn't ask for the big bucks.

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 04:08 PM
Speaking of cowards, why have you failed to respond to this question previously asked?


"So finally, you grew some hair and are now stating that Taryn Christion QB SDSU is the best player in the FCS

Is this correct?"I've only ever blocked one person and you are working hard to become the second person.

Is this correct?

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TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 04:10 PM
Maybe pointless, but work is slow right now so might as well have some fun.

Plus, it's always amazing to see an Ivy League mind at work. :DAnd these people want to run our country?

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JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 04:11 PM
I've only ever blocked one person and you are working hard to become the second person.

Is this correct?

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I wouldn't pester him. He's probably busy working on his paper.

ST_Lawson
September 27th, 2018, 04:12 PM
I agreed to the price he set. It's not my fault he's a coward and didn't ask for the big bucks.

Fair enough, you can ask for whatever terms you want in this.

Personally, I view this as a bettor vs house situation rather than one bettor vs another bettor.

It's like if I go to Vegas and say, "my Cubs are the best baseball team" and I place a bet that they'll win the World Series.
The house doesn't then go and say "no, the Red Sox are the best" and put money on the Sox. The house says, "ok, if the Cubs win, you win money, if they do not, you lose the money".

World said that Lovett was "the best player in the FCS". If he's willing to bet on that...fine. Some of you guys who have all kinds of $ to spend on bets like this are essentially playing the "house" in this situation. It's a matter of what the "odds" are that you all can work out.

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 04:14 PM
I agreed to the price he set. It's not my fault he's a coward and didn't ask for the big bucks.All I did was list some players better than his guy, that he implied was the best and it was a fact, challenged him to 100 dollars that he would not win since he was so confident, then calls me a coward for saying best player is hard since offense and defense are two different concepts, calls me a coward so I list TC and Gooden, still calls me a coward, I say TC, then he can't read I said at this point, it is TC, then still calls me a coward cause he can't read, and now wants to move the goal posts due to the fact he has no balls to backup his "factual" claim.

/threadsincedrifthappenedbyworld

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TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 04:14 PM
I wouldn't pester him. He's probably busy working on his paper.Which one that he needs an excuse for and a safe space to write in.

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TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 04:16 PM
Fair enough, you can ask for whatever terms you want in this.

Personally, I view this as a bettor vs house situation rather than one bettor vs another bettor.

It's like if I go to Vegas and say, "my Cubs are the best baseball team" and I place a bet that they'll win the World Series.
The house doesn't then go and say "no, the Red Sox are the best" and put money on the Sox. The house says, "ok, if the Cubs win, you win money, if they do not, you lose the money".

World said that Lovett was "the best player in the FCS". If he's willing to bet on that...fine. Some of you guys who have all kinds of $ to spend on bets like this are essentially playing the "house" in this situation. It's a matter of what the "odds" are that you all can work out.I don't have that much money, I just know bull**** when I see it and called him out on his arrogance, and he called me a coward. It's really that simple. If he is holier than thou and know Lovett is the best for a fact, then it shouldn't matter the odds, he should take it and claim a free 100 dollar bet that I am bound to lose.

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JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 04:20 PM
I don't have that much money, I just know bull**** when I see it and called him out on his arrogance, and he called me a coward. It's really that simple. If he is holier than thou and know Lovett is the best for a fact, then it shouldn't matter the odds, he should take it and claim a free 100 dollar bet that I am bound to lose.

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I don't have money either. Why do you think I went for 10k?

Might as well get this fool to cover my tuition if he wants to make stupid bets.

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 04:23 PM
I don't have money either. Why do you think I went for 10k?

Might as well get this fool to cover my tuition if he wants to make stupid bets.Considering he only knows what Benjamin's look like I should have done 200. Doubt he has seen a singular one in his life. xlolx

My tuition is covered as I paid for it myself but that would be some nice spending money in Wales and England when I leave in less than a month.

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JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 04:25 PM
Considering he only knows what Benjamin's look like I should have done 200. Doubt he has seen a singular one in his life. xlolx

My tuition is covered as I paid for it myself but that would be some nice spending money in Wales and England when I leave in less than a month.

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I'm currently paying out of pocket as well. Not fun but I'll graduate with considerably less debt than most.

Also, enjoy your trip. I loved my visit to England and I'd love to go back sometime and see more of Europe.

TheKingpin28
September 27th, 2018, 04:26 PM
I'm currently paying out of pocket as well. Not fun but I'll graduate with considerably less debt than most.I had a total of 17K and paid it off about 1 year later

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Silenoz
September 27th, 2018, 04:37 PM
Seems like much ado about nothing. He's excited about a Princeton player, something that probably happens rarely. And it's just one of the millions of homer statements made around here daily. God forbid anyone other than an NDSU, SDSU, or JMU fan ever be positive about something, off-base or not.


Also the best player in FCS is Troy Andersen. Or at least he would be if his position didn't change every possession.

Derby City Duke
September 27th, 2018, 05:19 PM
Kingpin 28 and World: xslapfightx

JSU Southerner and Kingpin 28: xbangx

The rest of us: xpopcornx

Oh, and Jimmy F'in Moreland for the Buchanan...:D

JSUSoutherner
September 27th, 2018, 05:29 PM
Kingpin 28 and World: xslapfightx

JSU Southerner and Kingpin 28: xbangx

The rest of us: xpopcornx

Oh, and Jimmy F'in Moreland for the Buchanan...:D

Don't get it wrong, I've thoroughly enjoyed my time in this thread. Made the second half of the day just fly by.

IBleedYellow
September 27th, 2018, 05:30 PM
I volunteer to be the house for all bets.

All bets must be paid in full before October 1st in order to count.

Currently odds on World's pick is 4:1, TC is 2:1.

World
September 27th, 2018, 05:52 PM
Kingpin 28 and World: xslapfightx

JSU Southerner and Kingpin 28: xbangx

The rest of us: xpopcornx

Oh, and Jimmy F'in Moreland for the Buchanan...:D


Ha!

Have a great day everyone!

gotts
September 27th, 2018, 06:02 PM
5 star thread. Where do I subscribe to the newsletter?

caribbeanhen
September 27th, 2018, 06:28 PM
Nice list!

Consider Aaron Parker, WR, Rhode Island.... talented

JuJuan Lawson (on list) and Parker will light up the scoreboards this year

ST_Lawson
September 27th, 2018, 08:08 PM
JuJuan Lawson (on list)

No relation (as far as I know) ;)

Go Green
September 28th, 2018, 07:00 PM
Anyone who wants to watch World's guy... he's on ESPNU now.

World
September 28th, 2018, 07:42 PM
Meanwhile, it appears that Princeton QB John Lovett is doing only Ok at halftime

half time

Princeton - 30
Columbia - 10

Princeton star QB John Lovett
Passing Yards - 122
Rushing Yards - 174
TD's - 4

A reminder that these are only Lovett's halftime stats

not a bad runner for 6'4" 238 lbs

World
September 28th, 2018, 08:10 PM
Meanwhile, it appears that Princeton QB John Lovett is doing only Ok at halftime

half time

Princeton - 30
Columbia - 10

Princeton star QB John Lovett
Passing Yards - 122
Rushing Yards - 174
TD's - 4

A reminder that these are only Lovett's halftime stats

not a bad runner for 6'4" 238 lbs



https://twitter.com/IvyLeague/status/1045820175528779776

grizband
September 28th, 2018, 08:23 PM
Meanwhile, it appears that Princeton QB John Lovett is doing only Ok at halftime

half time

Princeton - 30
Columbia - 10

Princeton star QB John Lovett
Passing Yards - 122
Rushing Yards - 174
TD's - 4

A reminder that these are only Lovett's halftime stats

not a bad runner for 6'4" 238 lbs
Against Columbia...

Bison56
September 28th, 2018, 08:31 PM
Meanwhile, it appears that Princeton QB John Lovett is doing only Ok at halftime

half time

Princeton - 30
Columbia - 10

Princeton star QB John Lovett
Passing Yards - 122
Rushing Yards - 174
TD's - 4

A reminder that these are only Lovett's halftime stats

not a bad runner for 6'4" 238 lbs

Reminder its Columbia

TheKingpin28
September 28th, 2018, 10:04 PM
Meanwhile, it appears that Princeton QB John Lovett is doing only Ok at halftime

half time

Princeton - 30
Columbia - 10

Princeton star QB John Lovett
Passing Yards - 122
Rushing Yards - 174
TD's - 4

A reminder that these are only Lovett's halftime stats

not a bad runner for 6'4" 238 lbsCome on buddy, take that bet. It's a sure fire win. Hell, for every dollar you bet, I will give you 10-1 odds.

If I bet 100 and Lovett wins, you'd get 1000 dollars and/or if you bet 100 and win you'd get 1000 from me, otherwise you'd owe me 100 if he lost. I'm still waiting. Coward...

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Thumper 76
September 28th, 2018, 10:41 PM
Meanwhile, it appears that Princeton QB John Lovett is doing only Ok at halftime

half time

Princeton - 30
Columbia - 10

Princeton star QB John Lovett
Passing Yards - 122
Rushing Yards - 174
TD's - 4

A reminder that these are only Lovett's halftime stats

not a bad runner for 6'4" 238 lbs

Neat.


Taryn Christion 2 games 34/43 for 79.1% 651 yds and 9 tds w/ 0 INTs.

If we’re going to use games against **** competition stats then there ya go.


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Bisonator
September 28th, 2018, 11:04 PM
Somewhat. The other thing that hampers ndsu is that they won’t schedule a home and home unless their road game is in a 12 game season.


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That's not true, we played at EW last year in an 11 game season. If we can get an FBS then we are not going to travel to an FCS unless it's a 12 game season, need at least 6 home games every year.

World
September 29th, 2018, 02:45 AM
Neat.


Taryn Christion 2 games 34/43 for 79.1% 651 yds and 9 tds w/ 0 INTs.

If we’re going to use games against **** competition stats then there ya go.




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well thanks, now lets compare each player for the 2 games before today's Princeton game


QB Taryn Christion, South Dakota State, Sr.- 34-43, 651 yards, 9 TD, 79.1%, 325.5ypg, 275.3 pass eff, 9 carries, -1 yard, 1 TD in 2 games.

QB John Lovett, Princeton, Sr.- 32-47, 509 yards, 7 TD, 68.1%, 254.5ypg, 208.2 pass eff, 16 carries, 119 yards, 3 TD in 2 games.

Thumper 76
September 29th, 2018, 06:56 AM
That's not true, we played at EW last year in an 11 game season. If we can get an FBS then we are not going to travel to an FCS unless it's a 12 game season, need at least 6 home games every year.

That’s straight from Jeremy Jorgensons mouth this week man. I don’t make the news, I just report it.


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Thumper 76
September 29th, 2018, 06:58 AM
well thanks, now lets compare each player for the 2 games before today's Princeton game


QB Taryn Christion, South Dakota State, Sr.- 34-43, 651 yards, 9 TD, 79.1%, 325.5ypg, 275.3 pass eff, 9 carries, -1 yard, 1 TD in 2 games.

QB John Lovett, Princeton, Sr.- 32-47, 509 yards, 7 TD, 68.1%, 254.5ypg, 208.2 pass eff, 16 carries, 119 yards, 3 TD in 2 games.

So why do you think Lovett is better? Because he was forced to run?


Also important to note in the first two game Taryn played a total of 5 quarters or less.


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kalm
September 29th, 2018, 08:31 AM
You mean biggest stat whore, not best player, right? I just want to make sure you understand the Payton usually goes to the biggest stat whore, not best player. Streveler was the best player last year and yet Briscoe won it.

So, let's do a bet, I am a man of my word and I will put 100 dollars down that THE WALTER PAYTON AWARD will NOT go Lovett. What you say? Thumper can verify I pay up when I lose multple times to him. You are so high on him and you claim to know he is the best player, so let's see you man up and back your claims.

Yep, and Briscoe did it both ways.

Gubrud set the single season fCS passing record at 5106, 500 yards ahead of Briscoe, and he also came up just 33 yards short of Steve McNair's total yardage record that year so there's one exception to the rule but as you say, sometimes it's a stats thing which is unfortunate considering the disparities in scheduling. Briscoe would not have equaled Streveler playing in the MVC.

Professor Chaos
September 29th, 2018, 09:17 AM
Yep, and Briscoe did it both ways.

Gubrud set the single season fCS passing record at 5106, 500 yards ahead of Briscoe, and he also came up just 33 yards short of Steve McNair's total yardage record that year so there's one exception to the rule but as you say, sometimes it's a stats thing which is unfortunate considering the disparities in scheduling. Briscoe would not have equaled Streveler playing in the MVC.
Streveler got Kanye'd last year.

TheKingpin28
September 29th, 2018, 11:04 AM
Yep, and Briscoe did it both ways.

Gubrud set the single season fCS passing record at 5106, 500 yards ahead of Briscoe, and he also came up just 33 yards short of Steve McNair's total yardage record that year so there's one exception to the rule but as you say, sometimes it's a stats thing which is unfortunate considering the disparities in scheduling. Briscoe would not have equaled Streveler playing in the MVC.

Briscoe would have been broken in half during the season if he played in the Valley.

BisonFan02
September 29th, 2018, 12:27 PM
All I know is.....Jabril Cox is a monster....he's everywhere on the field.

World
September 29th, 2018, 08:41 PM
So why do you think Lovett is better? Because he was forced to run?


Also important to note in the first two game Taryn played a total of 5 quarters or less.


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actually, most of Lovett's runs are designed plays for him to run (he set a few records running for 20 TD's in 2016 and was hurt last year)

and, yep, Lovett also played only "a total of 5 quarters or less" in those two first games

Derby City Duke
September 29th, 2018, 10:42 PM
Oh, by the way, Jimmy Moreland had a pick-6 for the 3rd straight game today -- 100 yarder this time.

He's legit; Lovett probably wouldn't be brave enough to throw his way (ask TC).

Grizalltheway
September 30th, 2018, 11:19 AM
Dante Olson-24 tackles yesterday, 79 in 5 games.

caribbeanhen
September 30th, 2018, 11:58 AM
All I know is.....Jabril Cox is a monster....he's everywhere on the field.

And everywhere inside Kehoe's head ..... I heard he boasted to teammates he was getting ready for a pick 6.... kind of like the called shot

Daytripper
September 30th, 2018, 12:11 PM
WR Davion Davis won't have the eye-popping numbers this year because of the more balanced offense and a freshman QB, but he is the best receiver in FCS in my opinion.

uofmman1122
September 30th, 2018, 03:31 PM
Dante Olson-24 tackles yesterday, 79 in 5 games.
If he keeps this up, he’ll win the Buck going away.

lionsrking2
September 30th, 2018, 03:38 PM
I saw him play and he looked okay against LSU but not great. I do think he has a shot. Just needs to limit those picks. For me to add a new player they need to have a small number of picks and a couple weeks without one or just one over the next 3 games or so with several TDs and he should be added.

I would take you're reply more seriously if you didnt have a guy on your list with 8 picks.

smallcollegefbfan
September 30th, 2018, 03:42 PM
All I know is.....Jabril Cox is a monster....he's everywhere on the field.

We have been watching him since last year. I wonder if he will declare. I would push my team to take him in the 4th or 5th round right now. I just hope he keeps getting better and doesn't plateau before he is draft eligible.

smallcollegefbfan
September 30th, 2018, 03:44 PM
I would take you're reply more seriously if you didnt have a guy on your list with 8 picks.

Hodges was on the preseason list and he is likely to drop off this week or next week. He has not looked good but he was a name already on the list. I don't add guys with a lot of picks early on.

Derby City Duke
September 30th, 2018, 04:50 PM
If he keeps this up, he’ll win the Buck going away.

I'm a bit skeptical when a guy continually gets 50% more assists than solo tackles. Getting near the pile generally gets a guy the benefit of the doubt. Makes me think of Brian Bosworth.

I will try to go watch some highlights on this guy though; seems to be a good active LB.

I'm still on my guy's -- Jimmy Moreland -- bandwagon. Had his 3rd straight game with a pick-6, this one a 100-yarder. Last week was a 60 yarder where he benefitted from a monster pass rush. The first one was only 20 yards, but he was 5 yards in the backfield when he pick off the WR tunnel screen.

wcugrad95
September 30th, 2018, 05:44 PM
Doing another Tyrie Adams (WCU QB) Public Service Announcement. Western lost to Furman on Saturday, but not because of Adams, who went 25-36 for 424 yards, 5 TDs, and 0 INT. He also had 48 rushing yards (was bottled-up after rushing for over 100 yards each of the previous 2 weeks).

For the season:
76-119 (64.2%), 1023 yards, 10 TDs, 2 INT, 160.4 EFFICIENCY / 352 rushes, 4 TDs, 5.4 YPC
Total of 1375 yards and 14 TDs accounted for in 4 games (3.5 TDs/game)

JSUSoutherner
September 30th, 2018, 05:47 PM
We have been watching him since last year. I wonder if he will declare. I would push my team to take him in the 4th or 5th round right now. I just hope he keeps getting better and doesn't plateau before he is draft eligible.

I thought you were an independent scout? I didn't realize you were for a team.

TheKingpin28
September 30th, 2018, 05:49 PM
I thought you were an independent scout? I didn't realize you were for a team.

Maybe his team he roots for, not who he works for? I thought he was independent too.

caribbeanhen
September 30th, 2018, 06:26 PM
I'm a bit skeptical when a guy continually gets 50% more assists than solo tackles. Getting near the pile generally gets a guy the benefit of the doubt. Makes me think of Brian Bosworth.

I will try to go watch some highlights on this guy though; seems to be a good active LB.

I'm still on my guy's -- Jimmy Moreland -- bandwagon. Had his 3rd straight game with a pick-6, this one a 100-yarder. Last week was a 60 yarder where he benefitted from a monster pass rush. The first one was only 20 yards, but he was 5 yards in the backfield when he pick off the WR tunnel screen.

Moreland has been on my watch list since the 2016 playoffs when he and JMU went lock down on Briscoe and the Jets aka Sam Houston State

he looked real smooth navigating a few hazards on his way back for 100 yards yesterday.... wonder what his time was

Derby City Duke
October 1st, 2018, 11:02 PM
Moreland has been on my watch list since the 2016 playoffs when he and JMU went lock down on Briscoe and the Jets aka Sam Houston State

he looked real smooth navigating a few hazards on his way back for 100 yards yesterday.... wonder what his time was

You got me wondering, so I timed it a couple times: about 13.3, but he did have to weave several times, plus he caught the ball moving into the end zone.