G5 Football

[Nor Eastern]

Thread to talk games with a G5 team(s)


Houston is wrecking PAC12 Arizona. USF is beating GT in the 4th. Purdue is barely beating one of the worst G5 teams Eastern Mich in the 4th.

[Nor Eastern]

Eastern Michigan beats Big 10 Purdue.

LOL

[Nor Eastern]

Buffalo beating P6 (lol) Temple 12-0 and marching w/ 2:00 left in first half

[Laker]

I couldn't have done better myself. And people who know me would agree! :D

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Miami’s @Koenig_34 (https://twitter.com/Koenig_34) had 11 tackles, two tackles for loss and one sack in a 42-21 win over Ball State.

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[Nor Eastern]

Got the G5 Conference championship games all set.

MAC
Northern Illinois vs. Buffalo
Friday 11/30 @ 7 p.m. on ESPN2


Sun Belt
Louisiana at Appalachian State
Saturday 12/1 @ 12 p.m. on ESPN


Conference USA
Middle Tennessee at UAB
Saturday 12/1 @ 1:30 p.m. on CBSSN


AAC
UCF vs. Memphis
Saturday 12/1 @ 3:30 p.m. on ABC


Mountain West
Fresno State at Boise State
Saturday 12/1 @ 7:45 p.m. on ESPN

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

ESPN bowl predictions for Temple are terrible

One guy has us playing TCU on their home field in the Armed Forces Bowl. The other dude has the Owls in a regular season rematch against Boston College in the Military Bowl.

[Nor Eastern]

Several bowl games have already begun to announce teams.


Bahamas Bowl - FIU vs Toledo
Arizona Bow - ArkSt vs _____ (MWC)
Camellia Bowl - Georgia Southern vs. ______ (MAC)
Cure Bowl - Sun Belt #2 (AppSt / Louisiana) vs ________ (AAC)
New Orleans Bowl - Sun Belt #1 (AppSt / Louisiana) vs _______ CUSA
Hawaii Bowl - Hawaii vs. Louisiana Tech

[Nor Eastern]

Edited post above rather than make two

[katss07]

Crazy that each g5 conference has a conference championship game now, much less the MWC game being in primetime.

[Nor Eastern]

Yeh, but it'll be against the ACC and Big10 champ games on ABC and Fox

[Nor Eastern]

UAB wins the CUSA Championship

App State wins the Sun Belt Championship

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple vs Duke in the Independence Bowl. This is a bowl game I'm excited about!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UAB wins the CUSA Championship

App State wins the Sun Belt Championship

App State's reward for winning the SBC is an 8-5 MTSU team. These G5 bowl games are for the most part a joke. Would have loved to see App State against WVU....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

AAC Bowl line-up

Cure Bowl 12/15
Tulane (6-6) vs Louisiana-Lafayette (7-6)

Gasparilla Bowl 12/20
South Florida (7-5) vs Marshall (8-4)

Birmingham Bowl 12/22
Memphis (8-5) vs Wake Forest (6-6)

Armed Forces Bowl 12/22
Houston (8-4) vs AP #22 Army (9-2 w/Navy Saturday)

Independence Bowl 12/27
Temple (8-4) vs Duke (7-5)

Military Bowl 12/31
Cincinnati (10-2) vs Virginia Tech (6-6)

Fiesta Bowl 1/1
#8 UCF (12-0) vs #11 LSU (9-3)

Cincinnati got screwed with their match-up. Give Cincinnati someone like Kentucky.

[Nor Eastern]

SBC Bowl Line-Up

Cure Bowl - Saturday 12/15 - @1:30pm EST on CSBSN
Louisiana vs. Tulane

Camellia Bowl - Saturday 12/15 - @5:30pm EST on ESPN
Georgia Southern vs. Eastern Michigan

New Orleans Bowl - Saturday 12/15 @9pm EST on ESPN
Appalachian State vs. Middle Tennessee (CUSA Runner-Up)

Dollar General Bowl - Saturday 12/22 @7pm on ESPN
Troy vs. Buffalo (MAC Runner-up)

Arizona Bowl - Saturday 12/29 - @1pm on CBSSN
Arkansas State vs. Nevada

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I think there's about a 60/40 chance Collins is still our coach come game time. He's definitely going to get some feelers (Georgia Tech for sure) but I'm not sure they'll be good enough to pull him away after 2 years. I think he has his sights set on a top level P5 gig.

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Liberty coach Turner Gill has informed his team he is retiring immediately to take care of his wife, Gayle, who has a heart condition

[Nor Eastern]

Looks like Appalachian State is losing their head coach to University of Louisville.

[Laker]

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UMass names Walt Bell as next head coach; was Florida State OC:

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

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UMass names Walt Bell as next head coach; was Florida State OC:


From the Edmund Fitzgerald to the Titanic xlolx

The FSU offense was horrific this year! I'd love to see the list of applicants for the UMass job. I wonder if Charlie Weis applied?

[Laker]

From the Edmund Fitzgerald to the Titanic xlolx

The FSU offense was horrific this year! I'd love to see the list of applicants for the UMass job. I wonder if Charlie Weis applied?

I'm waiting for the return of Mark Mangino.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I'm waiting for the return of Mark Mangino.

He's likely working towards a full-on holiday food coma right now. I'm sure when the big guy awakes he'll be as pissy as usual. At least Weis was somewhat of a happy portly fellow. Mangino treated everyone like they stole his piece of the pie. He could definitely coach though. Brought a version of the run 'n shoot to Oklahoma in 1999 and won a title with it in 2000. That style of offense was unheard of in the Big 12 outside of Lubbock. Nebraska was still a top 5 program running the option. At Texas, Ricky Williams had just broke the rushing record.

What's that sleezeball Art Briles up to these days? I feel like some crooked AD will be calling his name again....

[Bisonoline]

I'm waiting for the return of Mark Mangino.

The great pumpkin.

[Bisonoline]

He's likely working towards a full-on holiday food coma right now. I'm sure when the big guy awakes he'll be as pissy as usual. At least Weis was somewhat of a happy portly fellow. Mangino treated everyone like they stole his piece of the pie. He could definitely coach though. Brought a version of the run 'n shoot to Oklahoma in 1999 and won a title with it in 2000. That style of offense was unheard of in the Big 12 outside of Lubbock. Nebraska was still a top 5 program running the option. At Texas, Ricky Williams had just broke the rushing record.

What's that sleezeball Art Briles up to these days? I feel like some crooked AD will be calling his name again....

Hes the AD of some christian university out east I think.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Hes the AD of some christian university out east I think.

.......COWBOY TALK...........BRAWK!

[JacksFan40]

He's likely working towards a full-on holiday food coma right now. I'm sure when the big guy awakes he'll be as pissy as usual. At least Weis was somewhat of a happy portly fellow. Mangino treated everyone like they stole his piece of the pie. He could definitely coach though. Brought a version of the run 'n shoot to Oklahoma in 1999 and won a title with it in 2000. That style of offense was unheard of in the Big 12 outside of Lubbock. Nebraska was still a top 5 program running the option. At Texas, Ricky Williams had just broke the rushing record.

What's that sleezeball Art Briles up to these days? I feel like some crooked AD will be calling his name again....
If you can get Kansas to national title contention you have my respect.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Rumor has it that Geoff Collins interviewed with Georgia Tech yesterday.

It's either going to be Ken Wisenhunt or Collins for the Ramblin' Wreck gig....

[CHIP72]

Rumor has it that Geoff Collins interviewed with Georgia Tech yesterday.

It's either going to be Ken Wisenhunt or Collins for the Ramblin' Wreck gig....

ESPN is reporting Whisenhunt has withdrawn his name from consideration and Collins is the leading candidate for the Georgia Tech job.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

ESPN is reporting Whisenhunt has withdrawn his name from consideration and Collins is the leading candidate for the Georgia Tech job.

This sucks! Temple will be on their 5th head coach in less than 10 years! If nothing else, it shows the strength of our program!

If he bolts there's no way in hell I'm driving to Shreveport. Nothing like having to play another bowl game with a temporary staff....ugh....

[Laker]

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Confirming multiple reports, former Ole Miss coach Hugh Freeze will be introduced as Liberty’s new coach in a 2 p.m. news conference, source told @WatchStadium (https://twitter.com/WatchStadium)

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

This sucks! Temple will be on their 5th head coach in less than 10 years! If nothing else, it shows the strength of our program!

If he bolts there's no way in hell I'm driving to Shreveport. Nothing like having to play another bowl game with a temporary staff....ugh....

Honestly think you can do better than Collins. Maybe you can get Colgate's current staff or get Curt Cignetti from Elon.

Have a strong feeling Georgia Tech is going to be sorry for passing over Scott Satterfield and Jeff Monken to take on Collins.

[dbackjon]

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So the AD that condones rape (Ian McGaw) hires a HC that likes prostitutes!

[CHIP72]

Curt Cignetti's resume is actually very strong. In addition to being the head coach at Elon and previously D2 IUP, he was also an assistant coach at Pitt, NC State, and Alabama (and before that, Temple), and was the recruiting coordinator at both NC State and Alabama. At NC State, he coached Phillip Rivers and successfully recruited Russell Wilson (before Wilson eventually transferred to Wisconsin). At Alabama, he was an assistant on one national championship team (2009) and his recruits played major roles on two others (2011, 2012). IMO, he should be a serious candidate at Temple.

The favorite probably should be former Temple assistant and current Baylor associate head coach Fran Brown, IF Temple is interested in Brown (who is in his mid-30s) and former Temple head coach and current Baylor head coach Matt Rhule, who also coached Brown as an assistant when Brown played at Western Carolina, thinks Brown is ready to be a head coach.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Honestly think you can do better than Collins. Maybe you can get Colgate's current staff or get Curt Cignetti from Elon.

Have a strong feeling Georgia Tech is going to be sorry for passing over Scott Satterfield and Jeff Monken to take on Collins.

If we do better than Collins we'll be looking for another new coach after next year. The whole situation is a joke and why I really don't go "all in" supporting the football program because it's impossible to truly build anything. Thankfully we are and always will be a basketball school. I can safely say Aaron McKie won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple hires Miami DC Manny Diaz. Hopefully he does a great job for the 2-3 years he's on North Broad. I could honestly see Diaz replacing Taggert at Florida State with a big 2019 season.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25519761/temple-owls-finalizing-deal-manny-diaz-miami-hurricanes-next-coach

[Nor Eastern]

Appalachian State hired NCSU's OC Eliah Drinkwitz to be their new Head Coach.

Akron hired UTC's head coach Tom Arth for their HC position.

[Nor Eastern]

Bowl Games start tomorrow:

Cure Bowl: Louisiana vs. Tulane
New Mexico Bowl: North Texas vs. Utah State
Camellia Bowl: Georgia Southern vs. Eastern Michigan
Las Vegas Bowl: Fresno State vs. Arizona State
New Orleans Bowl: Appalachian State vs. Middle Tennessee

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The G5 Exhibition Season has begun.

Tulane 41 UL-Lafayette 24
Utah State 52 North Texas 13
#21 Fresno State 31 Arizona State 20
Georgia Southern 23 Eastern Michigan 21

[tigonian02]

The G5 Exhibition Season has begun.

Tulane 41 UL-Lafayette 24
Utah State 52 North Texas 13
#21 Fresno State 31 Arizona State 20
Georgia Southern 23 Eastern Michigan 21
More emotion at the end of that GaSouthern game than I’ve ever seen

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

More emotion at the end of that GaSouthern game than I’ve ever seen

Easily the most emotion I've seen from a coach who beat Eastern Michigan, a 7-6 EMU. Good game between two very evenly matched teams. The GSU kicker has a helluva leg! He should be playing on Sundays!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

App State is rolling MTSU 38-13 but the Mountaineers QB might be done....

App State deserved better imo. I would have liked to see them play Kentucky or Florida.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

The Sun Belt might very well have surpassed Conference USA.

Coastal Carolina beat their champ by 4 touchdowns, and App State has a 45-13 lead over the runner up early in the 4th quarter.

That's what happens when you expand based on media markets rather than bringing in good programs.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The Sun Belt might very well have surpassed Conference USA.

Coastal Carolina beat their champ by 4 touchdowns, and App State has a 45-13 lead over the runner up early in the 4th quarter.

That's what happens when you expand based on media markets rather than bringing in good programs.

CUSA is terrible. Marshall was brought in by a struggling Virginia Tech in an attempt to keep their bowl streak alive. The 8 win Herd lost 41-20 in front of a half-hearted crowd.

Utah State completely clowned North Texas, App State is destroying MTSU. Just a bunch of junk....

[tigonian02]

Easily the most emotion I've seen from a coach who beat Eastern Michigan, a 7-6 EMU. Good game between two very evenly matched teams. The GSU kicker has a helluva leg! He should be playing on Sundays!
He may get a chance. Our last kicker did last year.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

App State rolls MTSU 45-13

Former Lehigh WR Gatlin Casey led MTSU receivers with 6 receptions for 64 yards.

My take away from today? MTSU, UL-Lafayette and North Texas are poster childs for bowl season participation trophies. Ya'll stink....

[Nor Eastern]

After the first day of Bowl Season the G5 records are:

MWC - 2-0
AAC - 1-0
SBC - 2-1
MAC - 0-1
CUSA - 0-2


P5

PAC12 - 0-1


Bowls:

Cure Bowl: Tulane over Louisiana - 41-24
Las Vegas Bowl: Fresno State over Arizona State - 31-20
New Mexico Bowl: Utah State over North Texas - 52-13
Camellia Bowl: Georgia Southern over Eastern Michigan - 23-21
New Orleans Bowl: Appalachian State over Middle Tennessee - 45-13

[tigonian02]

The Sun Belt might very well have surpassed Conference USA.

Coastal Carolina beat their champ by 4 touchdowns, and App State has a 45-13 lead over the runner up early in the 4th quarter.

That's what happens when you expand based on media markets rather than bringing in good programs.
Lol might have passed? The Sunbelt has been ahead of both the MAC and CUSA since 2015, coincidentally the same year that App and GaSouthern were eligible to participate in bowls. If Troy wins their bowl game, then it almost guarantees that the trend continues. It would also give the Sunbelt East 3 teams with multi-digit wins this year.

[citdog]

App who? gswho? Never heard of 'em..

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UAB 27 Northern Illinois 10 Half of the Boca Raton Bowl

Another G5 borefest. There's about 8k people there to see this sorry exhibition.....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UAB 37 Northern Illinois 13 Final

San Diego State vs Ohio tomorrow night. I have some hope for this one. SDSU has more talent but Solich will have his team ready to go.

[MTfan4life]

UAB 27 Northern Illinois 10 Half of the Boca Raton Bowl

Another G5 borefest. There's about 8k people there to see this sorry exhibition.....

I saw a highlight in front of a mostly empty stadium, so I checked the reported attendance. 22000+ or about 77% full. There must have been 15000 people at the concession stands most of the game or something.

I wish App. State would have played UAB.

[cx500d]

The schools have a minimum buy. Nobody actually buys them, so they either sit on the ticket or give them away to people who didn't go anyway.

[Nor Eastern]

I saw a highlight in front of a mostly empty stadium, so I checked the reported attendance. 22000+ or about 77% full. There must have been 15000 people at the concession stands most of the game or something.

I wish App. State would have played UAB.



If there were 3k people there I would be shocked. UAB brought a chunk of fans that filled up one section and half of another. Rest looked empty.

The chance of UAB and App State playing was there to be had. Once App State won the SBC champ game they were locked into the New Orleans Bowl to play a CUSA team. The CUSA champ always gets to pick their bowl game. UAB picked Boca Raton over New Orleans because it still was a Champ vs Champ game and it was in FAU's backdoor.

I'd had much rather watched App State vs. Fresno State or Utah State than AppSt vs. UAB, though.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I saw a highlight in front of a mostly empty stadium, so I checked the reported attendance. 22000+ or about 77% full. There must have been 15000 people at the concession stands most of the game or something.

I wish App. State would have played UAB.

I wish App State played NC State and UAB got a shot at Auburn. Or basically any solid P5 program...

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Been watching the Frisco Bowl between Ohio and San Diego State to see the finished improvements and the crowd is pathetic. I think the bands are most of the people. Probably not even 1/10 full.....1K maybe?

They hardly show the crowd and I can see why....no people there.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Just got a good scan of the crowd....more than pathetic. If it wasn't for the band, there would be no one there.....xsmhx

There will be a sea of green and yellow there in just over 2 weeks...xnodx

[CHIP72]

I wish App State played NC State and UAB got a shot at Auburn. Or basically any solid P5 program...

UAB did play Texas A&M and Appalachian State did play Penn State this season.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Been watching the Frisco Bowl between Ohio and San Diego State to see the finished improvements and the crowd is pathetic. I think the bands are most of the people. Probably not even 1/10 full.....1K maybe?

They hardly show the crowd and I can see why....no people there.

These games are a joke! There's too many of them and most aren't competitive! How do these bowl organizers expect people to drop 100's if not 1,000's of dollars during the holidays to go watch a meaningless football game?

Ohio hammers SDSU 27-0.

The average score of the 7 bowl games so far has been 36.5-14.4.....

[Laker]

Ohio hammers SDSU 27-0.

The average score of the 7 bowl games so far has been 36.5-14.4.....

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[Nor Eastern]

The average score of the 7 bowl games so far has been 36.5-14.4.....


Yep, lots of bad match ups so far.

Updated Bowl game results:


AAC - 1-0
MWC - 2-1
SBC - 2-1
MAC - 1-2
CUSA - 1-2


P5

PAC12 - 0-1


Bowls:

Cure Bowl: Tulane over Louisiana - 41-24
Las Vegas Bowl: Fresno State over Arizona State - 31-20
New Mexico Bowl: Utah State over North Texas - 52-13
Camellia Bowl: Georgia Southern over Eastern Michigan - 23-21
New Orleans Bowl: Appalachian State over Middle Tennessee - 45-13
Boca Rotan Bowl: UAB over Northern Illinois - 37-13
Frisco Bowl: Ohio over San Diego State - 27-0

[tigonian02]

Lots of mismatches this year. Also a lot of teams that generally have no fan bases, let alone traveling ones. It always amuses me why teams choose to go to destination bowls farther away than their fans will travel. UABs CUSA championship game was near empty...they knew they weren’t going to travel far...should have gone to New Orleans. I don’t care though because GaSoutherns crowd looked great on TV. Our fans always travel well. Sold most Camellia bowl tickets ever (not an old bowl).

[citdog]

Lots of mismatches this year. Also a lot of teams that generally have no fan bases, let alone traveling ones. It always amuses me why teams choose to go to destination bowls farther away than their fans will travel. UABs CUSA championship game was near empty...they knew they weren’t going to travel far...should have gone to New Orleans. I don’t care though because GaSoutherns crowd looked great on TV. Our fans always travel well. Sold most Camellia bowl tickets ever (not an old bowl).

Who? GSU is in Atlanta...

[Reign of Terrier]

On one hand, people in this thread are talking about poorly attended bowl games and blow outs, while snickering about how sad it is and participation trophies.

On another, there are threads in the FCS discussion talking about blow outs and poorly attended quarter/semifinal games.

I honestly don't see the difference in "what's better"

[citdog]

On one hand, people in this thread are talking about poorly attended bowl games and blow outs, while snickering about how sad it is and participation trophies.

On another, there are threads in the FCS discussion talking about blow outs and poorly attended quarter/semifinal games.

I honestly don't see the difference in "what's better"

Only one of these systems ends with a trophy that reads "National Champion". Thought you private school boys whose mommy and daddy overpaid for their education would know that...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

USF gets to play a bowl game on their home field tonight. O/U actual attendance 20k?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Marshall notched an impressive 38-20 road win over USF. The Bulls mailed their season in around mid-October. USF finished 2018 with a solid 6 game losing streak.

[Nor Eastern]

MWC - 2-1
SBC - 2-1
CUSA - 2-2
AAC - 1-1
MAC - 1-2



P5

PAC12 - 0-1


Bowls:

Cure Bowl: Tulane over Louisiana - 41-24
Las Vegas Bowl: Fresno State over Arizona State - 31-20
New Mexico Bowl: Utah State over North Texas - 52-13
Camellia Bowl: Georgia Southern over Eastern Michigan - 23-21
New Orleans Bowl: Appalachian State over Middle Tennessee - 45-13
Boca Rotan Bowl: UAB over Northern Illinois - 37-13
Frisco Bowl: Ohio over San Diego State - 27-0
Gasparilla Bowl: Marshall over South Florida - 38-20

[Reign of Terrier]

Only one of these systems ends with a trophy that reads "National Champion". Thought you private school boys whose mommy and daddy overpaid for their education would know that...

I'd explain concepts like "profits" and "probability" and "brand recognition" but I don't think they teach that at the Citadel so I won't bother.

[citdog]

I'd explain concepts like "profits" and "probability" and "brand recognition" but I don't think they teach that at the Citadel so I won't bother.

I know all about those.

1. Underpants

2. ??????

3. Profit


Right?

[JacksFan40]

Finally got a close game in the Bahamas Bowl
Florida International beats Toledo 35-32 in the Makers Wanted Bahamas Bowl.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Finally got a close game in the Bahamas Bowl
Florida International beats Toledo 35-32 in the Makers Wanted Bahamas Bowl.

Good game between two teams with solid talent/coaching. That felt like a bowl game with the palm trees and whacky location.

I'm watching BYU lead WMU 7-0 in the 1st in an old fashion slugfest. Although, BYU's offense has been putrid all year. I'm actually surprised their coaching is keeping his job.

[JacksFan40]

Good game between two teams with solid talent/coaching. That felt like a bowl game with the palm trees and whacky location.

I'm watching BYU lead WMU 7-0 in the 3rd in an old fashion slugfest. Although, BYU's offense has been putrid all year. I'm actually surprised their coaching is keeping his job.
Butch Davis has done an incredible job at FIU. 17 wins in his first 2 seasons, compared to previous coach Ron Turner’s 10 wins from 2013-2016.

[Laker]

I'm watching BYU lead WMU 7-0 in the 3rd in an old fashion slugfest. Although, BYU's offense has been putrid all year. I'm actually surprised their coaching is keeping his job.

I think it was a major mistake for BYU to go independent. They thought that they would be the next Notre Dame. They have become irrelevant while Utah and Utah State move the needle more than they do.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

BYU and WMU has gotten interesting. Good amount BYU fans in the house and solid local support has made for a lively atmosphere...

The Houston-Army game tomorrow is the one I'm looking forward to. That has big time potential....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I think it was a major mistake for BYU to go independent. They thought that they would be the next Notre Dame. They have become irrelevant while Utah and Utah State move the needle more than they do.

Their bball program has taken a hit too since moving to the WCC. They can't recruit with Gonzaga and one would argue St. Mary's has consistently had more talent the last 5-10 years. The rest of the programs in the WCC really don't stir the masses. Although, most if not all have history of national success.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Butch Davis has done an incredible job at FIU. 17 wins in his first 2 seasons, compared to previous coach Ron Turner’s 10 wins from 2013-2016.

Butchy has to be getting offers to move up. I feel like he has one more big time gig in him despite his age. Florida State?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

EWU would beat both BYU and WMU. They'd have some trouble with both teams physicality but the Eagles would generate enough big plays to score points.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

EWU would beat both BYU and WMU. They'd have some trouble with both teams physicality but the Eagles would generate enough big plays to score points.

Well, maybe BYU would cause some issues. The Cougars dominated the 2nd half on their way to a 49-18 win. The final 30 minutes was definitely the best I saw the BYU "O" all season....

[JacksFan40]

Butchy has to be getting offers to move up. I feel like he has one more big time gig in him despite his age. Florida State?
Willie Taggart will get one more year, if he doesn’t get them to bowl eligibility he’s gone and Davis would be a top candidate.

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EWU would beat both BYU and WMU. They'd have some trouble with both teams physicality but the Eagles would generate enough big plays to score points.
NDSU could beat all 3 of them.

[Nor Eastern]

Update before the second Saturday of Bowls:

MWC - 2-1
SBC - 2-1
CUSA - 3-2
AAC - 1-1
MAC - 1-4

Indy: 1-0

[Nor Eastern]

CUSA and the MAC will finish out their bowl season today with the old WAC match-up of Hawaii vs. La Tech and Buffalo vs. Troy.

SBC finishes up next Saturday when Arkansas State plays Nevada.

[Laker]

Charlie Strong to clean house at USF after bowl game suspensions of players and assistants.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/usf-bulls/2018/12/22/usf-expected-to-dismiss-11-suspended-players-4-assistants/

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

CUSA and the MAC will finish out their bowl season today with the old WAC match-up of Hawaii vs. La Tech and Buffalo vs. Troy.

SBC finishes up next Saturday when Arkansas State plays Nevada.

Buffalo and Troy is definitely worth watching! The Bulls have some high-level FBS talent.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Charlie Strong to clean house at USF after bowl game suspensions of players and assistants.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/usf-bulls/2018/12/22/usf-expected-to-dismiss-11-suspended-players-4-assistants/

Not surprised! Strong is good guy and a decent head coach but he seems more adept to a coordinator role. As a Temple alum (AAC East) I'm more concerned with Houston at ECU than Strong at USF.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wake Forest winners an exciting Birmingham Bowl over Memphis 37-34. The Memphis kicker missed about a 35 yard FG attempt to force OT.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

So, the second-best team in the AAC lost to 6-6 Wake Forest in an especially bad ACC, and also got bulldozed by Mizzou. And that's why UCF doesn't deserve to be in the CFP.

The AAC might be the best G5 league without question but it's closer to the rest of the G5 than the P5 without a doubt.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

So, the second-best team in the AAC lost to 6-6 Wake Forest in an especially bad ACC, and also got bulldozed by Mizzou. And that's why UCF doesn't deserve to be in the CFP.

The AAC might be the best G5 league without question but it's closer to the rest of the G5 than the P5 without a doubt.

Saying Memphis was the second best team in the AAC is like saying Northwestern is the second best team in the Big 10 or ULL is the second best team in the SBC. Memphis was without their OC who took the NAU job. Their "O" was not the same today. Credit to a very well coached Wake Forest team for battling back. These bowl games are just tough to put much stock in. Houston's defense has 3 guys who have checked out for the NFL. Their back up DL is screwed against the Army attack.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Army is destroying Houston through the first 16 minutes. 21-0....

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Saying Memphis was the second best team in the AAC is like saying Northwestern is the second best team in the Big 10 or ULL is the second best team in the SBC. Memphis was without their OC who took the NAU job. Their "O" was not the same today. Credit to a very well coached Wake Forest team for battling back. These bowl games are just tough to put much stock in. Houston's defense has 3 guys who have checked out for the NFL. Their back up DL is screwed against the Army attack.

Just an observation: I've noticed the AAC likes to toot their own whenever they get a big bowl win (like Florida State in 2015 or Auburn last season) but when they take losses it's always "we just couldn't get up for the game, the bowls are exhibition matches anyways, one of our coaches left", blah blah blah.

The way I see it, if teams like UCF want to be in the conversation they need to schedule fewer of the Pitts and Marylads and play more UGAs and Alabamas, even if it means you have to take a paycheck to do it. Really, the entire AAC needs to overcome their delusions of grandeur and do more of that.

[JacksFan40]

Army is destroying Houston through the first 16 minutes. 21-0....
35-7 with 5 minutes left before halftime.
And to think I thought this would be a good game.

[JacksFan40]

Just an observation: I've noticed the AAC likes to toot their own whenever they get a big bowl win (like Florida State in 2015 or Auburn last season) but when they take losses it's always "we just couldn't get up for the game, the bowls are exhibition matches anyways, one of our coaches left", blah blah blah.

The way I see it, if teams like UCF want to be in the conversation they need to schedule fewer of the Pitts and Marylads and play more UGAs and Alabamas, even if it means you have to take a paycheck to do it. Really, the entire AAC needs to overcome their delusions of grandeur and do more of that.
UCF needs to find a way into a P5 conference if they want to be taken seriously. TCU in the MWC was never taken seriously until they left for the Big 12.

[JacksFan40]

35-7 with 5 minutes left before halftime.
And to think I thought this would be a good game.
42-7 with 51 seconds left in 1st Half!!!
Will Monken be getting bigger job offers or will teams stay away from his Triple Option offense?
Georgia Tech is a possibility since Monken was on Johnson’s staff for a while.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Just an observation: I've noticed the AAC likes to toot their own whenever they get a big bowl win (like Florida State in 2015 or Auburn last season) but when they take losses it's always "we just couldn't get up for the game, the bowls are exhibition matches anyways, one of our coaches left", blah blah blah.

The way I see it, if teams like UCF want to be in the conversation they need to schedule fewer of the Pitts and Marylads and play more UGAs and Alabamas, even if it means you have to take a paycheck to do it. Really, the entire AAC needs to overcome their delusions of grandeur and do more of that.

The BCS/NY6 bowl wins if nothing else show the league's ceiling in a one off situation. It buys at least some credibility against the top teams from the P5 conferences. That's about the best you're going to do unless you catch a break in non-conference scheduling. These minor bowl games really don't mean anything. It's great filler for ESPN during the holidays. Some of these bowls have been especially awful this season. No conference is immune to the bowl game checkout.

UCF and the rest of the G5 are in an impossible situation. Schedules are made years advance so you have to make sure you're at an elite level and so is your P5 opponent when the stars align. Given how coaching staffs constantly turnover there will never be a G5 program that can generate enough momentum for inclusion into a 4 team playoff.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UCF needs to find a way into a P5 conference if they want to be taken seriously. TCU in the MWC was never taken seriously until they left for the Big 12.

TCU played in the Rose Bowl and Fiesta Bowl wearing a MWC patch. Their best years in the last 10-15 years were in the MWC. They make more money in the Big 12 but they enjoyed their highest highs in the MWC...so far...

UCF is not getting in a P5 conference any time soon. A school like Cincinnati would get in before them imo.

[JacksFan40]

TCU played in the Rose Bowl and Fiesta Bowl wearing a MWC patch. Their best years in the last 10-15 years were in the MWC. They make more money in the Big 12 but they enjoyed their highest highs in the MWC...so far...

UCF is not getting in a P5 conference any time soon. A school like Cincinnati would get in before them imo.
TCU isn’t the type of school to be a national powerhouse in a P5. They’ve had some dang good years with players like Trevone Boykin etc. But they were a better fit for G5. Notre Dame is the only private Christian school who competes for national titles. Teams like TCU and BYU will never reach that level.

[Laker]

Army is performing their own blitzkrieg over Houston. The last time they rolled over someone like this was during the drive through Baghdad. If only they had beaten Oklahoma!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TCU isn’t the type of school to be a national powerhouse in a P5. They’ve had some dang good years with players like Trevone Boykin etc. But they were a better fit for G5. Notre Dame is the only private Christian school who competes for national titles. Teams like TCU and BYU will never reach that level.

They were 4th in the penultimate CFB playoff poll in 2014 before Ohio State jumped them with their Big 10 romp over Wisconsin. So they've been in the "hunt" while in the Big 12. TCU getting left out got the wheels really turning for the return of the Big 12 title game.

All the G5 schools are in an impossible situation when it comes to football. The difference is some situations suck more, some suck less. xsmiley_wixThat's why Memphis is paying Penny the big bucks....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Army is performing their own blitzkrieg over Houston. The last time they rolled over someone like this was during the drive through Baghdad. If only they had beaten Oklahoma!

Right down the field on their opening possession of the 2nd half! Houston's performance is making the two Patriot League defense's that held Army to a combined 59 points look pretty good...xlolx

[Laker]

Right down the field on their opening possession of the 2nd half! Houston's performance is making the two Patriot League defense's that held Army to a combined 59 points look pretty good...xlolx

Major Applewhite may be demoted to Corporal by the time this is over. He may order a sideline decimation to tougher them up.

[citdog]

Right down the field on their opening possession of the 2nd half! Houston's performance is making the two Patriot League defense's that held Army to a combined 59 points look pretty good...xlolx

Hudson High only schedules patsy league teams. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES will they, or canoe u, schedule The Citadel. All that losing to the 'Dogs has them running like First Manassas from The Citadel.

[CHIP72]

So, the second-best team in the AAC lost to 6-6 Wake Forest in an especially bad ACC, and also got bulldozed by Mizzou. And that's why UCF doesn't deserve to be in the CFP.

The AAC might be the best G5 league without question but it's closer to the rest of the G5 than the P5 without a doubt.

The AAC West was not very good this year; probably Central Florida, Temple, and Cincinnati in the AAC East were all better than any team in the AAC West.

Regarding the conferences, one could argue that the SEC is Level 1, the Big Ten, ACC, and probably Big 12 are Level 2, the PAC-12 (and depending on your point of view, Big 12) is Level 3, the AAC and MWC are Level 4, and Sun Belt, MAC, and Conference USA are Level 5, though the Sun Belt was better than the MAC and Conference USA this year.


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[cx500d]

Army pounding Houston 56-7 in the 3rd quarter....makes Colgate look pretty good by comparison to Houston

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Army scores again! 63-7 and there's still 10:31 left in the 4th....xsalutex

[Laker]

Army scores again- on a TD pass- and goes up 63-7.

People talk about the time consuming offense, but no one talks about the Army defense, who is doing pretty well today.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Army scores again- on a TD pass- and goes up 63-7.

People talk about the time consuming offense, but no one talks about the Army defense, who is doing pretty well today.

I did in the "Potential Lehigh HC" thread! John Loose is a great defensive mind!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Army scores AGAIN! 70-7!!

Has anyone heard if this is the largest bowl blowout ever?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Army 70 Houston 14 Final

Congrats Army on their first ever 11 win season! Helluva a season!

[citdog]

Nice year for hudson high. Does this mean you will return calls from Charleston, SC for scheduling????

[CHIP72]

As a Philadelphia Eagles fan, I hope the Houston NFL team plays on Sunday like their namesake college football team played on Saturday.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Troy took care of Buffalo 42-32 in a rather compelling game. Turnovers were huge in this game for both teams. I thought Buffalo and Troy showcased pretty talented rosters....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

There might be a brawl in the La Tech-Hawaii game before its over. Hawaii is living up to their chippy rep at home in this one. Apparently the two teams nearly got into a fight at a dinner earlier in the week.

[tigonian02]

There might be a brawl in the La Tech-Hawaii game before its over. Hawaii is living up to their chippy rep at home in this one. Apparently the two teams nearly got into a fight at a dinner earlier in the week.
This game is awesome so far. Waiting for someone to throw a helmet

[tigonian02]

I think all GaSouthern fans will cheer for Jeff Monken.

Someone mentioned the GT job...GT is trying to leave the option now, so CJM isn’t on their list

[tigonian02]

The AAC West was not very good this year; probably Central Florida, Temple, and Cincinnati in the AAC East were all better than any team in the AAC West.

Regarding the conferences, one could argue that the SEC is Level 1, the Big Ten, ACC, and probably Big 12 are Level 2, the PAC-12 (and depending on your point of view, Big 12) is Level 3, the AAC and MWC are Level 4, and Sun Belt, MAC, and Conference USA are Level 5, though the Sun Belt was better than the MAC and Conference USA this year.


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The Sunbelt has been better than both the MAC and CUSA since 2015. Moreso the SB East went 3-0 in bowls this year. The SB west has a chance to go 1-1 but I wouldn’t bet on it.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

Nice year for hudson high. Does this mean you will return calls from Charleston, SC for scheduling????

I have always wanted to play the Citadel and VMI.

[Bisonoline]

Army sure did look good. Best team Ive seen from them in many many years.

[citdog]

I think all GaSouthern fans will cheer for Jeff Monken.

Someone mentioned the GT job...GT is trying to leave the option now, so CJM isn’t on their list

"They whipped our fannies."

[tigonian02]

"They whipped our fannies."
I wish he were here when we played you guys in 2015. Maybe the blood bath would have been worse.

[JacksFan40]

Servpro First Responder Bowl between Boise State and Boston College was cancelled due to lightning delays, similar to SDSU-Iowa State. Game ruled a no contest.
Seems stupid they can’t just play tomorrow. Gotta suck for the players to have your bowl game cancelled. And this looked like a decent game as well.
Also I’d presume they’d have to reimburse fans for tickets as well.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Servpro First Responder Bowl between Boise State and Boston College was cancelled due to lightning delays, similar to SDSU-Iowa State. Game ruled a no contest.
Seems stupid they can’t just play tomorrow. Gotta suck for the players to have your bowl game cancelled. And this looked like a decent game as well.
Also I’d presume they’d have to reimburse fans for tickets as well.

This is brutal for all involved! I just got home from running some errands and expected the game to have resumed.

[Nor Eastern]

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1078040981553975296

Looks like there's no refund.

Also,

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/08/heart-of-dallas-bowl-could-leave-dallas-after-2018-season/


Seems like the bowl might not be around much longer anyway

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1078040981553975296

Looks like there's no refund.

Also,

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/08/heart-of-dallas-bowl-could-leave-dallas-after-2018-season/


Seems like the bowl might not be around much longer anyway

I've always wondered how the Cotton Bowl itself survives. I know they've managed to convince Oklahoma and Texas to keep their game as part of the state fair. Outside of that, what else does the stadium host?

This was originally the Ticket City Bowl iirc. It came into existence when the Cotton Bowl game moved to Jerry's World....

Things like this re-affirm why I'll never attend a Temple Bowl game unless it's 4 hours or less or it's a NY6 event. These games literally are just TV filler. The fans and games mean nothing....

[JayJ79]

Only one of these systems ends with a trophy that reads "National Champion". Thought you private school boys whose mommy and daddy overpaid for their education would know that...

What do the trophies that Alabama/etc. say on them?
Oh, I guess it says "National Championship" not just "National Champion". (they just don't mention NCAA, since it isn't an officially sanctioned championship)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/College_Football_Playoff_National_Championship_Tro phy_Jan_2018.jpg

[Bisonoline]

What do the trophies that Alabama/etc. say on them?
Oh, I guess it says "National Championship" not just "National Champion". (they just don't mention NCAA, since it isn't an officially sanctioned championship)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/College_Football_Playoff_National_Championship_Tro phy_Jan_2018.jpg

The game has to be sanctioned by the NCAA. But the championship is administered by a private organization. Just like all the other bowls.

You would think the NCAA would at least run the chipper.

[cx500d]

I've always wondered how the Cotton Bowl itself survives. I know they've managed to convince Oklahoma and Texas to keep their game as part of the state fair. Outside of that, what else does the stadium host?

This was originally the Ticket City Bowl iirc. It came into existence when the Cotton Bowl game moved to Jerry's World....

Things like this re-affirm why I'll never attend a Temple Bowl game unless it's 4 hours or less or it's a NY6 event. These games literally are just TV filler. The fans and games mean nothing....

Dont forget the all important PV a&m vs grambling game

[JayJ79]

The game has to be sanctioned by the NCAA. But the championship is administered by a private organization. Just like all the other bowls.

You would think the NCAA would at least run the chipper.
I'd like to think that the NCAA wouldn't sanction any sort of championship that doesn't include automatic qualifiers for every qualifying conference. but that may just be wishful thinking

[Nor Eastern]

Bowl Totals Update:

SBC: 3-1 (1 game remaining)
CUSA: 4-2 (Bowl season completed)
MWC: 2-2 (1 game remaining)
AAC: 1-3 (3 games remaining)
MAC: 1-5 (Bowl season completed)


The Bowl Challenge Cup comes down to the Arizona Bowl with Arkansas State vs. Nevada. If Ark State wins the Sun Belt wins the BC Cup. If Nevada wins, then CUSA wins the BC Cup.

[walliver]

The game has to be sanctioned by the NCAA. But the championship is administered by a private organization. Just like all the other bowls.

You would think the NCAA would at least run the chipper.

The NCAA doesn't really have much say in any of this.
The NCAA needs the P5 schools. The P5 schools would do just fine without the NCAA.
Without the P5, March Madness would lose a lot of its luster (and $$$) and March Madness is essentially the NCAA's main revenue source.
If the P5 schools ever leave, the NCAA would likely create a G5 championship.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple up 20-7 on Duke early in the 2nd quarter. We came to play. Just need to maintain it for 60 minutes....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple quickly responds to Duke's TD drive...

27-14 Owls 4:26 2Q

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Whelp....our defense has encountered some issues...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Our "assembled" staff has not been able to adjust to Cutcliffe and his guys. That fake punt attempt was a nightmare. Been outscored 42-7 since leading 20-7....lol

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Duke 56 Temple 27 Final

This is why "Live Down by the River" Foley was never seriously considered for the HC position. He promised we'd play hard but not certain we'd play well during he presser last week. He got that right for the most part. Duke played well but we did absolutely nothing to change things up. Owell, it's time to get ready for hoops season!

[Nor Eastern]

Bowl Totals Update:

SBC: 3-1 (1 game remaining)
CUSA: 4-2 (Bowl season completed)
MWC: 2-2 (1 game remaining)
AAC: 1-4 (2 games remaining)
MAC: 1-5 (Bowl season completed)

[tigonian02]

Bowl Totals Update:

SBC: 3-1 (1 game remaining)
CUSA: 4-2 (Bowl season completed)
MWC: 2-2 (1 game remaining)
AAC: 1-4 (2 games remaining)
MAC: 1-5 (Bowl season completed)
We’ll see if Arkansas State can pull out a win for that last SB bowl. They’re part of the old SB that helped give them the bad reputation though so I’m skeptical.

[Nor Eastern]

Well they have had a common opponent this year, UNLV. Arkansas State beat them by a touchdown. Nevada lost by 5.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Arkansas State leads Nevada 7-3 early in the 4th quarter

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Nevada wins 16-13 in OT! That was a pretty exciting game!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple's head coach Manny Diaz, who's held the title since December 13th, is considered a serious candidate for the Miami opening. We've had terrible staff turnover but this would take it to another level. I feel bad for the players. You can't truly build a program when you can't keep a coach.

[JacksFan40]

Temple's head coach Manny Diaz, who's held the title since December 13th, is considered a serious candidate for the Miami opening. We've had terrible staff turnover but this would take it to another level. I feel bad for the players. You can't truly build a program when you can't keep a coach.
It’s confirmed, Diaz taking Miami job.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/report-miami-nabs-manny-diaz-back-from-temple-as-he-rejoins-canes-as-head-coach/amp/

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

It’s confirmed, Diaz taking Miami job.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/report-miami-nabs-manny-diaz-back-from-temple-as-he-rejoins-canes-as-head-coach/amp/

This is horrible!! This will be our 6th head coach since 2010!!

[walliver]

So Richt's retirement was a big surprise, but Miami was able to replace him before the ink dried. xcrazyx

[JayJ79]

It’s confirmed, Diaz taking Miami job.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/report-miami-nabs-manny-diaz-back-from-temple-as-he-rejoins-canes-as-head-coach/amp/
at least Temple gets paid $4 million for their troubles (the buyout clause on Diaz's contract)

[Nor Eastern]

Final AP Polls. The G5 finished:

11th - UCF - AAC
18th - Fresno State - MWC
19th - Army - Independent
22nd - Utah State - MWC
23rd - Boise State - MWC
-----------------------------
26th - Appalachian State - Sun Belt
30th - UAB - CUSA
T35th - Troy - Sun Belt
T35th - Georgia Southern - Sun Belt


https://collegefootball.ap.org/poll

[Nor Eastern]

Final OOC Records by conference:



MWC: W: 20 L: 23 - 46.5%
SBC W: 14 L: 20 - 41.2%
AAC W: 17 L: 26 - 39.5%
CUSA W: 15 L: 34 - 30.6%
MAC W: 9 L: 35 - 20.5%

[Nor Eastern]

2018 Final Conference Rankings based on Massey Composite


MWC ....... 77.18
AAC ........ 79.99
SBC ........ 84.25
MAC ........ 91.53
CUSA ..... 92.08

[Nor Eastern]

CFP Payoffs per conference

MWC - $20.4 million
AAC - $18.8 million
SBC - $17.2 million
CUSA - $15.6 million
MAC - $14 million

Payout per team:

SBC - $1.72 million per team
MWC - $1.7 million per team
AAC - $1.56 million per team
MAC - $1.17 million per team
CUSA - $1.11 million per team

[tigonian02]

CFP Payoffs per conference

MWC - $20.4 million
AAC - $18.8 million
SBC - $17.2 million
CUSA - $15.6 million
MAC - $14 million

Payout per team:

SBC - $1.72 million per team
MWC - $1.7 million per team
AAC - $1.56 million per team
MAC - $1.17 million per team
CUSA - $1.11 million per team
This is a telling sign that the Sunbelt isn’t the junk conference that it used to be. CUSA on the other hand has fallen off of a cliff due to bad decisions.

[tigonian02]

Final AP Polls. The G5 finished:

11th - UCF - AAC
18th - Fresno State - MWC
19th - Army - Independent
22nd - Utah State - MWC
23rd - Boise State - MWC
-----------------------------
26th - Appalachian State - Sun Belt
30th - UAB - CUSA
T35th - Troy - Sun Belt
T35th - Georgia Southern - Sun Belt


https://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
Apps loss to GSU really killed their rank.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple hires Northern Illinois head coach Rod Carey. Not the most inspiring hire after Diaz bolted but NIU is a good MAC program. Hopefully he can recruit Ohio and Western PA.

[Nor Eastern]

2019 recruiting class by conference:

MWC: https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/?Conference=M-West

AAC: https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/?Conference=AAC

Sun Belt : https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/?Conference=SBC

CUSA: https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/?Conference=C-USA

MAC: https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/?Conference=MAC

[Laker]

Not just G5, but an economic look at which teams should leave FBS.

https://www.frogsowar.com/platform/amp/2019/2/7/18212894/fbs-teams-leave-fcs-economics

[Laker]

Not G5 but didn't want to start a new thread.

RedditCFB‏Verified account @RedditCFB (https://twitter.com/RedditCFB) 10m10 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1100024041115656193)More



RedditCFB Retweeted Coach Brown
Last Chance U coach Jason Brown has resigned after he allegedly texted a German player “I’m your new Hitler.”

[Nor Eastern]

Ooof. That's kind of dumb to put in writing. He'd still have a job if he'd have said Kaiser

[Nor Eastern]

I updated the list.

Out of the remaining 12 G5 teams the following moved from I-aa to I-a "recently"


UCF - 1996
Boise St - 1996
USF - 2001
Troy - 2001
Appalachian State - 2013

[Nor Eastern]

The Orlando Sentinel Countdown for 2019 (updated 6/26)

60. Troy (SBC)
61. Houston (AAC)
62. Arkansas (SEC)
63. Wake Forest (ACC)
64. Western Michigan (MAC)
65. UCLA (PAC12)
66. Indiana (B1G)
67. Arkansas State (SBC)
68. Texas Tech (Big 12)
69. North Carolina (ACC)
70. Southern Miss (CUSA)
71. Vanderbilt (SEC)
72. Toledo (MAC)
73. Colorado (PAC12)
74. Kansas State (Big12)
75. North Texas (CUSA)
76. Utah State (MWC)
77. Maryland (B1G)
78. Duke (ACC)
79. Ohio (MAC)
80. Nevada (MWC)
81. Marshall (CUSA)
82. Georgia Southern (SBC)
83. Louisville (ACC)
84. SMU (AAC)
85. FAU (CUSA)
86. Northern Illinois (MAC)
87. Georgia Tech (ACC)
88. FIU (CUSA)
89. Air Force (MWC)
90. Buffalo (MAC)
91. Liberty (IND)
92. LA Tech (CUSA)
93. Tulane (AAC)
94. Wyoming (MWC)
95. UAB (CUSA)
96. Miami (Ohio) (MAC)
97. Illinois (B1G)
98. Hawaii (MWC)
99. Middle Tennessee (CUSA)
100. Oregon State (PAC12)
101. Colorado State (MWC)
102. Eastern Michigan (MAC)
103. Tulsa (AAC)
104. Louisiana (SBC)
105. UNLV106. Weste (MWC)
106. Western Kentucky (CUSA)
107. Lousiana-Monroe (SBC)
108. Ball State (MAC)
109. Old Dominion (CUSA)
110. Rutgers (B1G)
111. East Carolina (AAC)
112. Kansas (Big 12)
113. New Mexico (MWC)
114. Navy (AAC)
115. Texas State (SBC)
116. Kent State (MAC)
117. Bowling Green (MAC)
118. Charlotte (CUSA)
119. Coastal Carolina (SBC)
120. San José State (MWC)
121. Georgia State (SBC)
122. UTSA (CUSA)
123. Central Michigan (MAC)
124. UMass (Independent)
125. Rice (CUSA)
126. New Mexico State (Independent)
127. Akron (MAC)
128. UConn (AAC)
129. South Alabama (SBC)
130. UTEP (CUSA)

[Nor Eastern]

Remaining G5 Schools as of 6/26:

CUSA: Zero
MAC: Zero
SBC: One (App State)
MWC: Three (Boise State / Fresno State / San Diego State)
AAC: Five (Cincinatti / Memphis / Temple / UCF / USF)


CUSA was the first conference to have all their members listed and the MAC second. Says a lot about how far both have fallen.

[walliver]

Remaining G5 Schools as of 6/26:

CUSA: Zero
MAC: Zero
SBC: One (App State)
MWC: Three (Boise State / Fresno State / San Diego State)
AAC: Five (Cincinatti / Memphis / Temple / UCF / USF)


CUSA was the first conference to have all their members listed and the MAC second. Says a lot about how far both have fallen.


What is now called C-USA used to be called the Sun Belt Conference.

[Nor Eastern]

What is now called C-USA used to be called the Sun Belt Conference.


The Sun Belt definitely got a boost by losing several of those teams and CUSA shot itself in the foot by adding UNCC. ODU at least has a bowl win against a MAC team. But what helped the Sun Belt the most was actually adding teams that have a football history. AppSt, GaSo, and CCU. GaSt has even been two two bowls, winning one against former Sun Belt member WKU in the Cure Bowl. It's almost wild to think that the Sun Belt isn't the most embarrassing FBS conference any longer.

[Nor Eastern]

The Orlando Sentinel Countdown for 2019 (updated 7/3)

53. USF (AAC)
54. UVA (ACC)
55. Purdue (B1G)
56. BYU (Independent)
57. Boston College (ACC)
58. California (PAC12)
59. Baylor (Big12)
60. Troy (SBC)
61. Houston (AAC)
62. Arkansas (SEC)
63. Wake Forest (ACC)
64. Western Michigan (MAC)
65. UCLA (PAC12)
66. Indiana (B1G)
67. Arkansas State (SBC)
68. Texas Tech (Big 12)
69. North Carolina (ACC)
70. Southern Miss (CUSA)
71. Vanderbilt (SEC)
72. Toledo (MAC)
73. Colorado (PAC12)
74. Kansas State (Big12)
75. North Texas (CUSA)
76. Utah State (MWC)
77. Maryland (B1G)
78. Duke (ACC)
79. Ohio (MAC)
80. Nevada (MWC)
81. Marshall (CUSA)
82. Georgia Southern (SBC)
83. Louisville (ACC)
84. SMU (AAC)
85. FAU (CUSA)
86. Northern Illinois (MAC)
87. Georgia Tech (ACC)
88. FIU (CUSA)
89. Air Force (MWC)
90. Buffalo (MAC)
91. Liberty (IND)
92. LA Tech (CUSA)
93. Tulane (AAC)
94. Wyoming (MWC)
95. UAB (CUSA)
96. Miami (Ohio) (MAC)
97. Illinois (B1G)
98. Hawaii (MWC)
99. Middle Tennessee (CUSA)
100. Oregon State (PAC12)
101. Colorado State (MWC)
102. Eastern Michigan (MAC)
103. Tulsa (AAC)
104. Louisiana (SBC)
105. UNLV106. Weste (MWC)
106. Western Kentucky (CUSA)
107. Lousiana-Monroe (SBC)
108. Ball State (MAC)
109. Old Dominion (CUSA)
110. Rutgers (B1G)
111. East Carolina (AAC)
112. Kansas (Big 12)
113. New Mexico (MWC)
114. Navy (AAC)
115. Texas State (SBC)
116. Kent State (MAC)
117. Bowling Green (MAC)
118. Charlotte (CUSA)
119. Coastal Carolina (SBC)
120. San José State (MWC)
121. Georgia State (SBC)
122. UTSA (CUSA)
123. Central Michigan (MAC)
124. UMass (Independent)
125. Rice (CUSA)
126. New Mexico State (Independent)
127. Akron (MAC)
128. UConn (AAC)
129. South Alabama (SBC)
130. UTEP (CUSA)



This leaves 8 teams in the G5 left.


American: (4) Cincinnati, Memphis, Temple, UCF
Mountain West: (3) Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State
Sun Belt: (1) App State

[Laker]

Happy Independence Day!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ovsfxU8AA97vs.jpg

[Nor Eastern]

HA! That's good.

#52 - App State

Former FCS darling is the 7th to last member of the G5 after being ranked 25th during the 2018 and finishing 26th based on end of season votes.

AAC has 4 teams left
MWC has 3 teams left

[Laker]

Upset of the night- the Rainbow Warriors drink AriZona's tea 45-38. Watch AriZona QB Khali Tate come up less than a yard short to end the game. I went to bed at halftime with Hawaii up by a TD and missed the excitement.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/watch-arizona-qb-khalil-tate-comes-up-1-yard-short-as-hawaii-pulls-off-exciting-upset/

[Laker]

Saturday’s Florida State-Boise State game has been moved from Jacksonville to Tallahassee, and game time moved up to noon ET kickoff because of Hurricane Dorian

[Nor Eastern]

MWC had 4 wins over the P5
AAC had 2 wins over the P5
Sun Belt had a won over the P5

MAC and CUSA still waiting

[Laker]

Congratulations to Georgia State for the road win.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDbPzKbW4AAQW9x.jpg:large

[Bisonoline]

Congratulations to Georgia State for the road win.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDbPzKbW4AAQW9x.jpg:large


xlmaoxxlmaox

[Nor Eastern]

The G5 has snagged a good share of P5 victories so far:

Arizona lost @ Hawaii (MWC)
UCLA lost @ Cincinnati (AAC)
Purdue lost @ Nevada (MWC)
Ole Miss lost @ Memphis (AAC)
Florida St lost to Boise St (MWC)
Tennessee lost to Georgia St (SBC)
Missouri lost @ Wyoming (MWC)
UCLA lost to San Diego St (MWC)
Kansas lost to Coastal Carolina (SBC)
Tennessee lost to BYU (Indy)
Oregon St lost @ Hawaii (MWC)

MWC: 6
AAC: 2
SBC: 2
Indy: 1
MAC: 0
CUSA: 0

[tigonian02]

The G5 has snagged a good share of P5 victories so far:

Arizona lost @ Hawaii (MWC)
UCLA lost @ Cincinnati (AAC)
Purdue lost @ Nevada (MWC)
Ole Miss lost @ Memphis (AAC)
Florida St lost to Boise St (MWC)
Tennessee lost to Georgia St (SBC)
Missouri lost @ Wyoming (MWC)
UCLA lost to San Diego St (MWC)
Kansas lost to Coastal Carolina (SBC)
Tennessee lost to BYU (Indy)
Oregon St lost @ Hawaii (MWC)

MWC: 6
AAC: 2
SBC: 2
Indy: 1
MAC: 0
CUSA: 0
Sunbelt will be pretty competitive this year I think. They’ll end up beating each other to death and no one will be ranked in the end. Meanwhile CUSA looks horribad this year. Marshall May walk thru the conference and end up ranked at year end.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple got a big 20-17 win over #21 Maryland yesterday! I'm headed up to Buffalo next Saturday for our battle with the Bulls!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The G5 has snagged a good share of P5 victories so far:

Arizona lost @ Hawaii (MWC)
UCLA lost @ Cincinnati (AAC)
Purdue lost @ Nevada (MWC)
Ole Miss lost @ Memphis (AAC)
Florida St lost to Boise St (MWC)
Tennessee lost to Georgia St (SBC)
Missouri lost @ Wyoming (MWC)
UCLA lost to San Diego St (MWC)
Kansas lost to Coastal Carolina (SBC)
Tennessee lost to BYU (Indy)
Oregon St lost @ Hawaii (MWC)

MWC: 6
AAC: 2
SBC: 2
Indy: 1
MAC: 0
CUSA: 0

Better add UCF dominating Stanford and Temple's escape against Maryland! Great weekend for the AAC imo. Even Houston played pretty well in a loss against a good Wazzu team...

[Laker]

Tulane, wearing all sky blue uniforms, comes from way behind to win with 3 seconds to go on two incredible plays.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EE4MRB_XoAArbvJ?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple bounces back from last week's debacle against Buffalo to hammer Georgia Tech 24-2. That's our second P5 scalp of the year. We should definitely be the hunt for the AAC Title. Temple, UCF, SMU, Memphis and Tulane seem like the upper half the AAC....

[Laker]

SMU is ranked #24 this week, making the poll for the first time since 1986, before they got the death penalty. I got this on another site. I got this from another site:

Some things that were going on the week of October 21st, 1986, the last time SMU was ranked in the AP Poll:

1) It was the AP top 20 poll, not top 25. SMU was #18. Miami was #1. Other teams that were in the top 20 that week that are also in the top 25 this week:

#2 Alabama, #4 Michigan, #5 Oklahoma, #6 Penn State (eventual champion), #7 Auburn, #8 Washington, #10 Texas AM, #11 Iowa, #12 LSU, and #16 Clemson. The only teams that were in that week's top 10 that are not ranked right now were #3 Nebraska and #9 Arizona State. The more things change ....

2) Ronald Reagan was President, and would be for another 2 1/2 years. The USSR still existed and nobody had any inkling it would ever not exist.

3) I was 22, a senior at USF. USF wouldn't have a football team for 11 more years, so my dorm hall was filled with Miami, Florida, and FSU banners.

4) The #1 movie was "Crocodlle Dundee", the #1 album was "Fore" by Huey Lewis and the News, and the #1 song was "When I Think of You" by Janet Jackson.

5) October 21st, 1986 was 12,032 days ago, or 1.039 Billion seconds ago.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple at East Carolina currently on ESPN. Brutally hot October night in Greensville. Houston seems to have the Pirates on the right track. This is going to be a tough game....

[MR. CHICKEN]

.....TEMPLE AHEAD....27-10.....WHIFF 3:36 LEFT IN 4Q.....AN' DUH LIGHTS ARE OUT....LITTLE EARLY DON MEREDITH.......POWER OUTTAGE........GAME IN DELAY......AWQ!

[MR. CHICKEN]

.....LIGHTS BACK...AFTERAH 15 MIN DELAY.........PIRATES SCORE.....GAME ENDS....27-17..........BRAWK!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

.....LIGHTS BACK...AFTERAH 15 MIN DELAY.........PIRATES SCORE.....GAME ENDS....27-17..........BRAWK!

What a crazy final few minutes! Temple played really well imo. East Carolina is going to be a force in the AAC next season. Houston is getting the most out of the Pirates. They simply lack the horses that are needed to compete with the better teams.

Georgia Southern won an epically awful game against South Alabama in OT.

[Laker]

If you missed the game of the day, SMU trailed by 21 and came back to win in triple OT 43-37 to go 6-0 and be bowl eligible.

[Nor Eastern]

What was probably a Top 10 G5 game was played last night on ESPN2 between Appalachian State and Louisiana with the Mountaineers improving to 5-0 after a 17-7 win. Probably be in the Top 25 in the AP and Coaches' polls on Sunday.


So far this year there have been 20 G5 wins over P5s and a few more still on the schedules.

[bonarae]

There are only 3 undefeated G5 teams left at this point: App State, Boise State and SMU. Memphis says goodbye to the undefeated ranks by losing to Temple 30-28.

[Nor Eastern]

Here's where the G5 have been ranked each week so far:


Week 2:

UCF - #18
Boise St - #24

Week 3:

UCF - #17
Boise St - #22

Week 4:

UCF - #15
Boise St - #20


Week 5:

Boise St - #16
UCF - #22


Week 6:

Boise St - #16
UCF - #18
SMU - #24


Week 7:

Boise St - #14
SMU - #21
Memphis - #23
Cincinnati - #25


Week 8

Boise St - #14
SMU - #19
Cincy - #21
App State - #24

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

My Owls got run out of Dallas by #19 SMU 45-21. They're legit and we don't play well on the road. Next week we get UCF in Philly....

[CHIP72]

My Owls got run out of Dallas by #19 SMU 45-21. They're legit and we don't play well on the road. Next week we get UCF in Philly....

Temple's loss to SMU can be summed up by three factors:

1) The Owls did a terrible job defending the deep pass. SMU had at least 3-5 completed deep passes where the receiver had at least 2-3 steps on the Temple defender.
2) Temple's receivers dropped a high number of passes. Most of those passes, had they been caught, would have been big plays (potential touchdowns in a couple cases) and/or first downs.
3) The Owls' offensive line did not do a good job in run blocking, which is usually one of Temple's strengths.

Incidentally, I plan to attend the Central Florida/Temple game next week. (It will probably be the only Temple game I attend this season unfortunately; their schedule and various other teams' schedules have made it difficult for me to attend my typical minimum two Temple games per season unless I want to have my weekends occupied every single weekend for 2+ months.)

[CHIP72]

One other significant result in the G5 from Saturday night (October 19th) - Boise State fell from the ranks of the undefeated, losing on the road to a mediocre Brigham Young team 28-25.

[Nor Eastern]

Week 9


SMU - #16 (7-0)
Cincinnati - #18 (6-1)
App State - #21 (6-0)
Boise State - #22 (6-1)


Receiving Votes
Memphis - #26
San Diego State - #28
Navy - #31
Central Florida - #35
Louisiana Tech - #36
Tulane - #37

[Nor Eastern]

UConn has a partial schedule for 2020 so far.

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1187367253689487361


UConn announces 9 of its 12 opponents for its 1st season as an independent in 2020: Home games vs. UMass, Indiana, Liberty, Army & Maine. Road games at Illinois, Ole Miss, San Jose State & Virginia

[Nor Eastern]

https://www.courant.com/sports/hc-sp-uconn-football-david-benedict-column-20191024-kepakk45xvccpcujkf22e26bhy-story.html


UConn’s guarantee games in the future will come mostly against top teams from the SEC and Big Ten. It will be balanced with home-and-home series with mid-level Power 5 teams and regionalized with expected annual games against Boston College, UMass, Syracuse and Army. BYU is expected to be a regular opponent.

[Nor Eastern]

Looking more like the Independence Bowl is going to end up being a G5vsG5 type of game.


@Brett_McMurphy


(https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy)Army will play in the Independence Bowl in next bowl cycle in 2020, 2022 & 2024 seasons, if bowl eligible





This might be exciting news if you're in the Sun Belt or CUSA.

[Nor Eastern]

The G5 has 6 teams in the AP Top 25:

15. SMU
17. Cincinnati
20. Appalachian State
21. Boise State
24. Memphis
25. San Diego State


This might be the most the G5 has ever been represented in the AP poll.


SMU@Memphis will be the ABC 7:30 game Saturday.
BoiseSt@SJSU will be Saturday @ 10:30p on CBSSN.
GaSo@AppSt will be Thursday @ 8:00p on ESPNU
Cincy@ECU will be Saturday @7:00p on CBSSN.

[Nor Eastern]

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/ncaaf_conf.html

Conference RPI.

1. Big Ten - 29.97
2. Big 12 - 29.59
3. SEC - 29.31
4. American - 27.02
5. Pac 12 - 25.47
6. ACC - 24.39
7. MWC - 22.53
8. Sun Belt - 20.42
9. Indy - 19.55
10. CUSA - 18.83
11. MAC - 17.32
12. MVFC - 11.45

[Nor Eastern]

Teams ranked in the Top 25:

AAC - 3
PAC12 - 2
ACC - 2
MWC - 2
SunBelt - 1

[Nor Eastern]

Ranked G5 action on ESPNU tonight. Unbeaten #20 App State hosts heated rival Georgia Southern. Forecast is favorable for the Eagles, very windy and very wet. Appalachian cannot lose and stay ranked or in the hunt for the NY6 bowl.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Georgia Southern is beating #20 App State 24-7 to start the 4th quarter! Brutal weather conditions (snow/rain/wind) in Boone!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Georgia Southern takes down App State 24-21!

[Laker]

Georgia Southern takes down App State 24-21!

Another unbeaten bites the dust. Meanwhile in the other game, Baylor tops West Virginia 17-14.

[bonarae]

Yet another unbeaten is out the door. SMU was upset by Memphis 54-48. No more unbeaten teams left in G5.

[Nor Eastern]

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1191806160531312642


@Brett_McMurphy


(https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy)Army reaches deal to be back-up selection for Belk Bowl in next bowl cycle b/w 2020-25, but w/Belk featuring ACC vs. Big Ten/SEC game, it’s probably unlikely back-up team would ever be needed


Army now has the Independence Bowl and Belk Bowl as tie-ins for 2020-2025

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple takes care of USF 17-7 to become bowl eligible at 6-3. We still have tough games left against Tulane (5-3) and #20 Cincinnati before wrapping up the regular season against hapless UConn.

[Laker]

Temple takes care of USF 17-7 to become bowl eligible at 6-3. We still have tough games left against Tulane (5-3) and #20 Cincinnati before wrapping up the regular season against hapless UConn.

Some serious injuries on that Owl defense.

Temple was going to win the game anyway, but what was USF doing in the last couple of minutes? No urgency, it was like they were waving the white flag. Pretty disgusting to give up in front of your home fans.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

App State takes down South Carolina 20-15 in an absolute thriller!!

[Nor Eastern]

Two more G5 over P5 wins today.

WKU over Arkansas
App State over South Carolina.

This win for App is the first time since 2013 a G5 team has beaten two P5 teams on the road. And only the 7th team to do so since 2001.

[Nor Eastern]

Six G5 teams are in the Coaches' Poll this week:

17. Cincinnati
18. Memphis
19. Boise St.
20. SMU
21. Navy
24. Appalachian State

And five G5 teams in the AP Poll:

17. Cincinnati
18. Memphis
19. Boise St.
20. SMU
21. Navy

[Nor Eastern]

CFP out

17. Cincy
18. Memphis
21. Boise State
23. Navy
25. App State

[Reign of Terrier]

App State takes down South Carolina 20-15 in an absolute thriller!!

I live in Columbia and folks here are saddddd

[walliver]

App State has a great G5 team, but that one loss to Georgia Southern will keep them out of any decent bowl. Unfortunately for them, they are trapped in the Sun Belt for the time being and C-USA isn't any better. Unless the Big XII expands and opens up a spot in the AAC, they are stuck where they are.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple got a nice 29-21 win over a pretty good Tulane team. At 7-3 we still have a chance to finish the year ranked.

[Nor Eastern]

Coaches Poll - 11/17/19

#17 - Cindy
#18 - Memphis
#19 - Boise State
#21 - SMU
#22 - App State
#25 - SDSU


AP Poll - 11/17/19

#17 - Cindy
#18 - Memphis
#20 - Boise State
#21 - SMU
#23 - App State

[bonarae]

FIU pasted the Miami Hurricanes for the latter's worst loss and the former's first P5 win.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/fiu-hands-miami-historic-loss-in-return-to-orange-bowl-site-in-first-power-five-win-for-panthers/

[CHIP72]

Temple fell a little short in a 15-13 loss at Cincinnati. The Owls trailed at one point in the 2nd half 13-0, but fought back to give themselves a chance late before an interception with about 1:20 left in the 4th quarter sealed the win for the Bearcats. The key play of the game actually occurred after Temple scored its first touchdown. On the PAT, Cincinnati blocked the kick and returned it for a 2 point play of their own. Instead of trailing 13-7 had the kick been successful, the Owls trailed 15-6 after their first touchdown, and they could not get the two scores necessary to overcome the deficit.

Temple will host Connecticut in their regular season finale next Saturday (11/30), while Cincinnati, who clinched the AAC East Division title with the win, will play at Memphis in a big game on Black Friday (11/29). (For whatever it is worth, there is a good chance I will be attending that Cincinnati/Memphis game.) If Memphis wins that game, the two teams will play again at the same venue (Liberty Bowl) for the AAC championship the following Saturday, while a Cincinnati win combined with a Navy win over Houston on Saturday would give the Midshipmen the AAC West Division title and allow Cincinnati to host Navy in the AAC title game.

[Nor Eastern]

The Mountain West and Sun Belt conferences have their division champions.

Appalachian State is the Sun Belt East winner and Louisiana is the Sun Belt West winner.

Boise State is the Mountain West Mountain winner and Hawaii is the Mountain West West winner.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple lost a 15-13 heartbreaker to #19 Cincinnati last night. The blocked XP the Bearcats returned for 2 points ended up being the difference in the game. The Owls should have no trouble finishing 8-4 overall since we close out the season with UConn. Unfortunately, we're likely headed to another middling/meaningless bowl game.

[Nor Eastern]

One week left and the current Conference RPI has the conferences ranked:

1. SEC - 31.95
2. Big Ten - 31.72
3. Big 12 - 30.20
4. PAC 12 - 27.89
5. American - 27.55
6. ACC - 27.39
7. Mountain West- 24.94
8. Sun Belt - 24.24
9. MAC - 21.54
10. Conference USA - 21.45

[Nor Eastern]

CFP for 11/26/19

#18 - Memphis - American
#19 - Cincinnati - American
#20 - Boise State - Mountain West
#25 - Appalachian State - Sun Belt

[Nor Eastern]

First Bowl game invites have started to roll out.

BYU accepts bid to Hawaii Bowl. - https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/11/16/sports/sports-breaking/byu-accepts-bid-to-hawaii-bowl-following-win-over-idaho-state/

[CHIP72]

After spotting Connecticut an early 14-0 lead midway through the 1st quarter, Temple outscored the Huskies 49-3 the rest of the way to win easily 49-17. The Owls finish the regular season 8-4 and await to find out where and who they will play in their bowl game in late December or possibly early January.

For Connecticut, it was their last-ever AAC conference game in football; they'll become a DI-A/FBS independent in football in 2020.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

After spotting Connecticut an early 14-0 lead midway through the 1st quarter, Temple outscored the Huskies 49-3 the rest of the way to win easily 49-17. The Owls finish the regular season 8-4 and await to find out where and who they will play in their bowl game in late December or possibly early January.

For Connecticut, it was their last-ever AAC conference game in football; they'll become a DI-A/FBS independent in football in 2020.

Overall it was a good season for the Owls. We've become one of the more consistent programs in all of FBS the last 10 years. The ability to survive consistent coaching turnover has been impressive.

The bowl games just don't interest me that much. Last year was our best bowl since the program's turnaround (Independence vs Daniel Jones and Duke) and we didn't have a coaching staff to prepare us for it. This year I think we'll have a staff but the opponent and destination will be far less appealing.

[CHIP72]

The bowl games just don't interest me that much. Last year was (Temple's) best bowl since the program's turnaround (Independence vs Daniel Jones and Duke) and we didn't have a coaching staff to prepare us for it. This year I think we'll have a staff but the opponent and destination will be far less appealing.

I think Temple probably will play in a lower profile bowl among the AAC's bowl tie-ins because the Owls slot behind so many teams in the top-heavy AAC in terms of the bowl selection process. (My impression based on the last few years of where Temple and other AAC teams have played in bowl games is that the better AAC teams, i.e. those with the best conference and overall records, get the first choices as to where/who they will play.) Temple will slot behind Memphis, Cincinnati, Navy, SMU, and Central Florida in the bowl selection order this season, assuming the AAC slots the teams as I think they do.

I hope Temple plays in the Boca Raton Bowl, mainly because that game is being televised on an over-the-air TV network and will be played on Saturday afternoon (unlike many of the other AAC bowl tie-ins, which are played on weekday afternoons during the holidays). That combination of TV network and date/time of game means more eyeballs may be able to see Temple football play, which will help the Temple football brand.

[Laker]

I read last night that there is currently one more eligible bowl team than the minimum needed. I'm wondering who gets left out. Probably a MAC team.

[CHIP72]

I read last night that there is currently one more eligible bowl team than the minimum needed. I'm wondering who gets left out. Probably a MAC team.

My guess is it will be Eastern Michigan. The other most likely candidates are Toledo (MAC) and Florida International (Conference USA). FIU's surprise win over Miami (FL) may enable them to play in a bowl game, not only because it got them to 6 wins, but also because that win carries some cache that neither Eastern Michigan nor Toledo have with any of their wins (though EMU did beat Illinois and Toledo did beat BYU).

[Laker]

My guess is it will be Eastern Michigan. The other most likely candidates are Toledo (MAC) and Florida International (Conference USA). FIU's surprise win over Miami (FL) may enable them to play in a bowl game, not only because it got them to 6 wins, but also because that win carries some cache that neither Eastern Michigan nor Toledo have with any of their wins (though EMU did beat Illinois and Toledo did beat BYU).

Toledo seems to have at least some following at their bowl games- not so apparent with EMU. I hope that you are wrong, because Aaron Keen, their OC, used to coach for the Mavs.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

USF Fired Charlie Strong. His career really went downhill quick.....

[Laker]

USF Fired Charlie Strong. His career really went downhill quick.....

I read something on Twitter today. When Strong was the coach at Texas, they signed a two year deal to play USF. Since then he was fired at UT and at USF, before they have even played.

[Bisonoline]

After this last weekend he should have been fired.

[Nor Eastern]

UNC Charlotte and Buffalo have accepted invites to the Bahamas Bowl on December 20th. This is UNC Charlotte's first bowl game in their 6 year history going 7-5 in the CUSA.

[Nor Eastern]

The G5 Conference Championships are set:


Saturday December 7th:

Sun Belt: Louisiana at Appalachian State - Noon on ESPN
Mid-American: Miami OH at Central Michigan - Noon on ESPN2
Conference USA: UAB at Florida Atlantic - 12:30C on CBSSN
American: Cincinnati at Memphis - 3:30pm on ABC
Mountain West: Hawaii at Boise State - 4:00pm on ESPN

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/ncaaf_conf.html

Conference RPI.

1. Big Ten - 29.97
2. Big 12 - 29.59
3. SEC - 29.31
4. American - 27.02
5. Pac 12 - 25.47
6. ACC - 24.39
7. MWC - 22.53
8. Sun Belt - 20.42
9. Indy - 19.55
10. CUSA - 18.83
11. MAC - 17.32
12. MVFC - 11.45

Unless the Sun Belt completely craps the bad in the bowl games then after this season the Sun Belt will have finished ahead of the MAC and CUSA in the CFP rankings 3 of the last 4 years, and this is a year where thee Sun Belt had 4 head coaching changes and a 5th school with a major staff shakeup.

Probably time to see if two of Marshall, USM, WKU, La Tech want to jump on board and get away from all the losing media market programs.

[Nor Eastern]

I'm not sure if Southern Miss could afford the $2 million dollar CUSA exit fee and the Sun Belt entrance fee (whatever it may be, which probably would be waived anywho).

The Sun Belt has definitely out performed both CUSA and the MAC the last few years. The additions by subtraction and the three that moved up from FCS helped tremendously.

[CHIP72]

Toledo seems to have at least some following at their bowl games- not so apparent with EMU.

Eastern Michigan is historically one of the worst programs in DI-A/FBS, and because of that and its close proximity to Michigan (<10 miles west), EMU has a small fanbase. That, along with the fact Toledo beat EMU this season, was a major factor in my thinking Eastern Michigan will be the .500 DI-A/FBS team excluded from a bowl game.

Ironically, I’ve attended a game at Eastern Michigan, in 2016 (against Toledo to boot; many of the fans who attended, I'd guess at least 25-30% of the crowd, were Toledo fans). At the time I went it was the 10th largest crowd in stadium history (and largest since I think 2008). The paid attendance was 21K and change.



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[Nor Eastern]

Shawn Elliot, coach of Georgia State, let slip in a radio interview that they will be heading out west to the Arizona Bowl. This is the last year the Sun Belt is associated with the Arizona Bowl, which starting in 2020 will become one of the Mountain West tier 1 bowls. Heavily attended by locals and since it is an independent bowl decides its schedule without the ESPN input. Even though this Bowl is only shown on CBS Sports it is a highly regarded bowl by the MWC.

[bonarae]

Jeff Tedford is retiring due to health concerns.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/fresno-state-coach-jeff-tedford-expected-to-step-down-due-to-health-concerns-per-report/

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Memphis takes down Cincinnati for the second week in a row to win the AAC. They also almost certainly locked up the NY6 Bowl Bid.

Temple was the only team to beat the Tigers this year....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Norvell wins the AAC Title with Memphis and hours (maybe minutes) later he accepts the Florida State job. The coaching turnover in the AAC is ridiculous. I'm honestly surprised they're able to recruit anyone. I know I wouldn't sign up for a revolving door of coaches.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Norvell wins the AAC Title with Memphis and hours (maybe minutes) later he accepts the Florida State job. The coaching turnover in the AAC is ridiculous. I'm honestly surprised they're able to recruit anyone. I know I wouldn't sign up for a revolving door of coaches.

The early signing day really needs to be done away with. It's completely pointless and it means these coaching moves happen earlier and coaching searches are rushed and teams that get their coach poached are scrambling.

[bonarae]

Memphis was able to sneak into a NY6 bowl this year.

[Nor Eastern]

G5 Champions playing the following bowls:

Cotton Bowl: #17 Memphis
Vegas Bowl: #19 Boise State
New Orleans Bowl: #20 Appalachian State
Mobile Bowl: Miami OH
Boca Raton Bowl: Florida Atlantic


Also, G5 has five teams in the final regular season CFP

#17 Memphis
#19 Boise State
#20 Appalachian State
#21 Cincinnati
#23 Navy

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Temple was selected/chose to play in the Military Bowl in Annapolis, where they will play North Carolina. The game will take place on Friday 12/27 at 12 PM ET. It is the third time Temple will play in Military Bowl (originally known as the EagleBank Bowl); they previously played in the game after the 2009 and 2016 seasons.

The date for the 2019 Military Bowl is possibly the worst possible date for me personally in terms of family commitments (particularly the location of those family commitments) if I want to attend the game. The game would have worked much better for me if it had been held before Christmas or on Monday 12/30 or later (excluding Monday 1/6, the mid-afternoon or evening on Monday 12/30, or the evening on Thursday 1/2). Even Thursday 12/26 or Saturday 12/28 probably would have been a little better date-wise. I was hoping Temple would play in a different bowl game this year. I'll figure something out...

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App State head coach Eliah Drinkwitz going to Mizzou.

#G5Lyfe

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I haven't seen all of the matchups yet- but which team got left out?

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I haven't seen all of the matchups yet- but which team got left out?

I'm pretty sure it was Toledo. Eastern Michigan will play in the Quick Lane Bowl (the bowl game in Detroit) against Pitt.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple was selected/chose to play in the Military Bowl in Annapolis, where they will play North Carolina. The game will take place on Friday 12/27 at 12 PM ET. It is the third time Temple will play in Military Bowl (originally known as the EagleBank Bowl); they previously played in the game after the 2009 and 2016 seasons.

The date for the 2019 Military Bowl is possibly the worst possible date for me personally in terms of family commitments (particularly the location of those family commitments) if I want to attend the game. The game would have worked much better for me if it had been held before Christmas or on Monday 12/30 or later (excluding Monday 1/6, the mid-afternoon or evening on Monday 12/30, or the evening on Thursday 1/2). Even Thursday 12/26 or Saturday 12/28 probably would have been a little better date-wise. I was hoping Temple would play in a different bowl game this year. I'll figure something out...

You couldn't me pay to go this game. 6-6 teams have no business being in a bowl game. Mediocrity/average should not be rewarded with a bowl game. I would have been perfectly happy had our season simply ended with the dominating win over UConn to finish 8-4. Hopefully our NFL guys are smart enough not to play in this meaningless exhibition.

How about App State? 12-1, ranked in the Top 25 lose their coach and get "rewarded" with a bowl game against a middling at best UAB squad. If I'm the Mountaineers I would said thanks for the offer but we're happy with how our season ended without a bottom of the barrel bowl against an inferior opponent.

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You couldn't me pay to go this game. 6-6 teams have no business being in a bowl game. Mediocrity/average should not be rewarded with a bowl game. I would have been perfectly happy had our season simply ended with the dominating win over UConn to finish 8-4. Hopefully our NFL guys are smart enough not to play in this meaningless exhibition.

How about App State? 12-1, ranked in the Top 25 lose their coach and get "rewarded" with a bowl game against a middling at best UAB squad. Why in the world would anyone pay to go see that?
In my opinion the only teams who should go bowling are 8-4 and above, maybe some 7-5 teams if they played a brutal schedule like Texas A&M. But 6-6 teams have no business going bowling.

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You couldn't me pay to go this game. 6-6 teams have no business being in a bowl game. Mediocrity/average should not be rewarded with a bowl game. I would have been perfectly happy had our season simply ended with the dominating win over UConn to finish 8-4. Hopefully our NFL guys are smart enough not to play in this meaningless exhibition.

How about App State? 12-1, ranked in the Top 25 lose their coach and get "rewarded" with a bowl game against a middling at best UAB squad. If I'm the Mountaineers I would said thanks for the offer but we're happy with how our season ended without a bottom of the barrel bowl against an inferior opponent.

The primary reason I'd have interest in seeing the North Carolina/Temple game is it is practically in my back yard; it only takes about 30-40 minutes to get to Annapolis from where I live (though it takes a lot longer during rush hour). (The game was even more convenient when it was played at RFK Stadium; I could use the DC Metrorail to get there and not use my car at all.)

I don't think some fans of G5 teams get it when it comes to bowl games; the only good bowl game that exists for G5 teams is the NY6 bowl game. If your team isn't in that game, and they had a very good season like Appalachian State (or teams like Boise State, Cincinnati, Navy, Southern Methodist, Air Force, Florida Atlantic, or Louisiana-Lafayette), they're probably playing a good but not great G5 team or a P5 team that is about the 7th or 8th best team in its conference in their bowl game. The only teams among those I listed who aren't playing one of the teams in the two groups I mentioned are SMU, Florida Atlantic (who are playing each other), and Navy (who is playing a pretty good Kansas State team that handed Oklahoma its only loss).

I know some Temple fans are excited the Owls are playing a P5 team, but with the way the bowl conference selections are made, they and other good G5 teams never play a good P5 team in a bowl game unless they win the NY6 bowl spot. G5 teams usually have much more of a chance to post a notable win in their regular season schedules against a P5 team, which in some cases may even be a home game for the G5 team. (Temple was unlucky that both Maryland and Georgia Tech sucked this year.)

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I saw four G5 teams that qualified for bowl games this season, so I'll probably have a little more interest in the bowl games involving those teams. Those bowl games are (teams I saw in person shown in bold):

12/23 (Mon): Gasparilla Bowl (Tampa, FL) - Central Florida vs Marshall, 2:30 PM ET
12/27 (Fri): Military Bowl (Annapolis, MD) - Temple vs North Carolina, 12 PM ET
12/28 (Sat): Cotton Bowl (Arlington, TX) - Memphis vs Penn State, 12 PM ET
01/02 (Thu): Birmingham Bowl (Birmingham, AL) - Cincinnati vs Boston College, 3 PM ET

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The primary reason I'd have interest in seeing the North Carolina/Temple game is it is practically in my back yard; it only takes about 30-40 minutes to get to Annapolis from where I live (though it takes a lot longer during rush hour). (The game was even more convenient when it was played at RFK Stadium; I could use the DC Metrorail to get there and not use my car at all.)

I don't think some fans of G5 teams get it when it comes to bowl games; the only good bowl game that exists for G5 teams is the NY6 bowl game. If your team isn't in that game, and they had a very good season like Appalachian State (or teams like Boise State, Cincinnati, Navy, Southern Methodist, Air Force, Florida Atlantic, or Louisiana-Lafayette), they're probably playing a good but not great G5 team or a P5 team that is about the 7th or 8th best team in its conference in their bowl game. The only teams among those I listed who aren't playing one of the teams in the two groups I mentioned are SMU, Florida Atlantic (who are playing each other), and Navy (who is playing a pretty good Kansas State team that handed Oklahoma its only loss).

I know some Temple fans are excited the Owls are playing a P5 team, but with the way the bowl conference selections are made, they and other good G5 teams never play a good P5 team in a bowl game unless they win the NY6 bowl spot. G5 teams usually have much more of a chance to post a notable win in their regular season schedules against a P5 team, which in some cases may even be a home game for the G5 team. (Temple was unlucky that both Maryland and Georgia Tech sucked this year.)

I'd rather only the G5 conference champions go to a bowl then this current setup. If that meant Temple went to a bowl once a decade or longer then awesome! When we get there it will have tremendous meaning/value. Plus, it would be against a truly quality opponent. I would likely consider attending such an event. As it is, I'll likely never attend a bowl unless it's the NY6 one. Even then, if we were in a similar situation as Memphis (coaching staff in disarray) I'd likely opt out. I have honestly no idea why anyone would piss away money and their families time to attend a G5 or low level P5 bowl game. No way in hell would I battle I-95 misery two days after Christmas to see 8-4 Temple vs 6-6 UNC.

The bowl system has evolved into nothing more than channel fill for ESPN. All they care about is throwing crap against the wall and hedging their bets that people will watch because it's football and its the holidays. The reality is people might watch but they're not engaged. These games are nothing more than background music except for a select few (playoffs, Rose, maybe 3-4 more).

Since basically half of FBS will compete in bowls the number of these teams that will be without adequate coaching staffs is significant. As a result they'll be completely ill prepared to play which further devalues the game. I'm happy players have wised up and opted to sit out these exhibitions.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Just saw Mike Norvell will not be coaching in the Cotton Bowl against PSU. It's a shame because the Tigers basically have no chance imo and Penn State gets to go to a marquee bowl but has to play a team in disarray. Just sucks all the way around....

[PAllen]

I'd rather only the G5 conference champions go to a bowl then this current setup. If that meant Temple went to a bowl once a decade or longer then awesome! When we get there it will have tremendous meaning/value. Plus, it would be against a truly quality opponent. I would likely consider attending such an event. As it is, I'll likely never attend a bowl unless it's the NY6 one. Even then, if we were in a similar situation as Memphis (coaching staff in disarray) I'd likely opt out. I have honestly no idea why anyone would piss away money and their families time to attend a G5 or low level P5 bowl game. No way in hell would I battle I-95 misery two days after Christmas to see 8-4 Temple vs 6-6 UNC.

The bowl system has evolved into nothing more than channel fill for ESPN. All they care about is throwing crap against the wall and hedging their bets that people will watch because it's football and its the holidays. The reality is people might watch but they're not engaged. These games are nothing more than background music except for a select few (playoffs, Rose, maybe 3-4 more).

Since basically half of FBS will compete in bowls the number of these teams that will be without adequate coaching staffs is significant. As a result they'll be completely ill prepared to play which further devalues the game. I'm happy players have wised up and opted to sit out these exhibitions.

I agree with just about everything except the players sitting out. I don't like the message that sends to the school or your teammates. As for 95 traffic? From the NE, head down through Delaware and across the Bay Bridge (though that may still be under construction).

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I agree with just about everything except the players sitting out. I don't like the message that sends to the school or your teammates. As for 95 traffic? From the NE, head down through Delaware and across the Bay Bridge (though that may still be under construction).

From the Scranton area, using I-81, I-83, I-695 (Baltimore area), and I-97 to Annapolis would also work. From the Lehigh Valley, either I-78 or US 222 and US 30 would replace part/all of I-81 and possibly part of I-83.


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Florida Atlantic is hiring ex-Florida State coach Willie Taggart to replace Lane Kiffin.

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Former Boston College coach Steve Addazio will be formally introduced as Colorado State’s coach on Thursday