G5 Football

[Nor Eastern]

Appalachian State has promoted Shawn Clark to HC

[Nor Eastern]

G5 Conference Championship TV ratings are in.

AAC - 2.88 Million - 12/7, 3:30pm - ABC
Sun Belt - 726K - 12/7, Noon - ESPN
MWC - 550K - 12/7, 4pm - ESPN
MAC - 358K - 12/7, Noon - ESPN2
CUSA - Not Rated - 12/7, 1:30pm - CBSSN

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

G5 Conference Championship TV ratings are in.

AAC - 2.88 Million - 12/7, 3:30pm - ABC
Sun Belt - 726K - 12/7, Noon - ESPN
MWC - 550K - 12/7, 4pm - ESPN
MAC - 358K - 12/7, Noon - ESPN2
CUSA - Not Rated - 12/7, 1:30pm - CBSSN

That's a great number for the AAC considering it was going head to head the with SEC!

[CHIP72]

That's a great number for the AAC considering it was going head to head the with SEC!

I think ABC/ESPN flipped the start times of the AAC and Big 12 championship games a couple years ago to avoid having the latter go up against the SEC championship game.

It helped that the AAC title game was a tight game, while the SEC title game was 34-3 at one point.




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[Nor Eastern]

I think I'm more surprised that the Sun Belt did so well. Has Boise started to bore people?

[tigonian02]

http://www.southernpigskin.com/sun-belt/the-rising-sun-belt/

[Nor Eastern]

http://www.southernpigskin.com/sun-belt/the-rising-sun-belt/



This has been kind of apparent for the last couple years. The Sun Belt was raided hard by CUSA and actually came out looking better than their previous selves and even better than the conference that raided them. Sun Belch? Nah. CUSA/MAC are the jokes now.

[JacksFan40]

This has been kind of apparent for the last couple years. The Sun Belt was raided hard by CUSA and actually came out looking better than their previous selves and even better than the conference that raided them. Sun Belch? Nah. CUSA/MAC are the jokes now.
The Sun Belt replaces them with FCS programs who’ve definitely proven themselves as quality programs.
App State is one of the top G5’s, Georgia Southern has been a consistent bowl team the past few years, Georgia State has surprisingly now made 3 bowls, Coastal Carolina has steadily improved, and Texas State is the outlier and is horrible.
It also helps that they dumped the dead weight in Idaho and NMSU.

[Nor Eastern]

Bowl games start today.


Bahamas Bowl - 1pm - ESPN: UNCC vs. Buffalo

Frisco Bowl - 7:30pm - ESPN: Utah St. vs. Kent St.

[cx500d]

Bowl games start today.


Bahamas Bowl - 1pm - ESPN: UNCC vs. Buffalo

Frisco Bowl - 7:30pm - ESPN: Utah St. vs. Kent St.
Breaking in the field for the Bison

[Laker]

Bowl games start today.


Bahamas Bowl - 1pm - ESPN: UNCC vs. Buffalo

Frisco Bowl - 7:30pm - ESPN: Utah St. vs. Kent St.

If I had gone to Texas for the Mavs game we had planned on going to the Frisco Bowl. One of my former student/athletes is an athletic trainer at USU.

[Nor Eastern]

And UNC Charlotte gets their doors knocked off by a 7 win Buffalo.


MAC: 1-0
AAC: 0-0
MWC: 0-0
SBC: 0-0
CUSA: 0-1

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

And UNC Charlotte gets their doors knocked off by a 7 win Buffalo.


MAC: 1-0
AAC: 0-0
MWC: 0-0
SBC: 0-0
CUSA: 0-1

Bowl records imo are meaningless. Coaching staffs in flux, key players sitting out etc....

[Nor Eastern]

Kent State takes Utah State down.

Both Buffalo and Kent State were 0-3 all time in bowls until today.


MAC: 2-0
AAC: 0-0
SBC: 0-0
MWC: 0-1
CUSA: 0-1


The CFP pays out extra money at the end of the year for how each conference performs. Bowls do matter in terms of money.

[Laker]

The Kent State- Utah State game was very exciting. KSU QB had a heck of a night, especially running.

I do not understand today's players. KSU scores on a bomb, player who catches it rips off his helmet the second he got into the end zone- draws a 15 yard penalty. Not long after that he starts throwing punches with a USU player after a kickoff. Lucky not to get thrown out. Why be so selfish?

Buffalo got their first bowl win along with KSU. Good start for the MAC.

[JacksFan40]

Battle of former FCS schools as Liberty wins Cure Bowl over Georgia Southern 23-16. First year of bowl eligibility and Liberty wins a bowl, they’re doing good so far in the FBS.

[Laker]

Battle of former FCS schools as Liberty wins Cure Bowl over Georgia Southern 23-16. First year of bowl eligibility and Liberty wins a bowl, they’re doing good so far in the FBS.

I wonder if some conference will break down and take them. Winning their first bowl game that they played in is pretty impressive.

[bonarae]

I wonder if some conference will break down and take them. Winning their first bowl game that they played in is pretty impressive.

Will they become the next Marshall? xchinscratchx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

San Diego State has quietly become one of the best FBS programs in the west. It's a shame they and the Chargers couldn't figure out a way to get a new stadium built. The Aztecs also have a solid hoops program. SDSU and Gonzaga have been tossed around as potential PAC 12 additions in the last 3-4 weeks.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UAB up 14-0 on #20 App State. The Mountaineers definitely look like a team in flux due to a coaching change. Ahh the joys of G5 bowling....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The UAB-App State bowl is half football game half street fight. Lots of undisciplined play by both teams.....

[Nor Eastern]

FAU beats SMU in the Boca Raton Bowl
Ark State beats FIU in the Camellia Bowl
Washington beats #19 Boise St. in the Las Vegas Bowl
SDSU beats CMU in the New Mexico Bowl
Liberty beats GS in the Cure Bowl
#20 App State beats UAB in the New Orleans Bowl


MAC: 2-1
SBC: 2-1
MWC: 1-2
CUSA: 1-2
AAC: 0-1


Liberty wins their first bowl game in their first eligible year. First, and up until today only, two teams to do that were Appalachian State and Georgia Southern.

Appalachian State is now 5-0 in bowl games in 5 years of bowl eligibility. Two New Orleans Bowls, Two Camellia Bowls and One Mobile Bowl.

[Nor Eastern]

Today Marshall plays UCF at 2:30pm in the BadBoy Mowers Gasparioilla Bowl.

[Laker]

Today Marshall plays UCF at 2:30pm in the BadBoy Mowers Gasparioilla Bowl.

Why do I keep hearing "Bad Boys" by Inner Circle as I read this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca_sxbu6FoA

[Nor Eastern]

Why do I keep hearing "Bad Boys" by Inner Circle as I read this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca_sxbu6FoA

If the AAC hadn't sold their Miami Beach Bowl to ESPN (now Frisco Bowl) then the Bad Boys Mowers would have been a great sponsor.

[marenlee]

Way too much chippiness. Frustrating to watch sometimes. I understand they’re college kids “having fun,” but keep it under control.


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Way too much chippiness. Frustrating to watch sometimes. I understand they’re college kids “having fun,” but keep it under control.


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I agree! I've seen a lot of ugliness during the bowl games I've watched....and I haven't been watching that much....

[Nor Eastern]

UCF flattens Marshall.

MAC: 2-1
SBC: 2-1
AAC: 1-1
MWC: 1-2
CUSA: 1-4

[bonarae]

Hawaii stops BYU late.

MAC: 2-1
SBC: 2-1
MWC: 2-2
AAC: 1-1
CUSA: 1-4

[Nor Eastern]

Got two Bowls today.


La Tech (CUSA) vs. Miami (FL) in the Independence Bowl at 4pm
Eastern Michigan (MAC) vs. Pittsburgh in the Quick Lane Bowl at 8pm

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Miami looks terrible against La Tech. One of the best things that happened to Temple football this year was Manny Diaz's decision to head back to Coral Gables. Carey might not be bill be the next Matt Rhule but he's a solid, proven FBS coach.

[bonarae]

La Tech shuts Miami Hurricanes out; EMU unable to hold on against Pitt.

SBC: 2-1
MWC: 2-2
MAC: 2-2
CUSA: 2-4
AAC: 1-1

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Did anyone see the Pitt-Eastern Michigan game?!? The EMU QB went absolutely crazy at the end of the game. He flat out hit a Pitt player then swung at another player but hit an official first. These bowl games have been littered with unsportsmanlike penalties. Just ugly.....

[Bisonoline]

Did anyone see the Pitt-Eastern Michigan game?!? The EMU QB went absolutely crazy at the end of the game. He flat out hit a Pitt player then swung at another player but hit an official first. These bowl games have been littered with unsportsmanlike penalties. Just ugly.....

Pitt got flagged for stupidity in the end zone. What was it 5-6 players got unsportsmans like conduct for that one.

Plus they knocked the ball out of a EWU players hand after they go a first down which could easily been another flag. JFC Total lack of discipline.

[Nor Eastern]

Two bowl games today with G5 teams.

Air Force vs. Washington State in the Cheez-It Bowl
Temple vs. UNC in the Military Bowl

[POD Knows]

Proud to say I haven't watched a single ****ty bowl game yet but I will probably watch KSU/Navy. And I will watch the FBS "playoff games" but that will be about it.

[Nor Eastern]

The good news is there's only really been one bad bowl. Miami vs. La Tech. That was two bad performances.


The rest of the games have been better than expected and better than last year that had a lot of blowouts.

Watching Buffalo and Kent State get their first bowl wins in school history was fun. App State working through adversity of staff changes to come back from 0-14 within the first 4 minutes to out score UAB 31-3 in the final 56 minutes of the game was exciting. FAU killing SMU's dream season was fun too.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Proud to say I haven't watched a single ****ty bowl game yet but I will probably watch KSU/Navy. And I will watch the FBS "playoff games" but that will be about it.

You're not missing much. Just a bunch of mediocre at best teams taking up TV space....

[JayJ79]

Proud to say I haven't watched a single ****ty bowl game yet but I will probably watch KSU/Navy. And I will watch the FBS "playoff games" but that will be about it.

same here (about not watching bowl games yet), and I have zero interest in the FBS charade. Though I might catch a bit of the Iowa/USC and/or Iowa State/Notre Dame games if I happen to remember when they're on and don't have anything better to do

[POD Knows]

You're not missing much. Just a bunch of mediocre at best teams taking up TV space....There are a fair number of games coming up that I plan to watch, I forgot about Minnesota/Auburn, Oregon/Wisconsin, Michigan/Alabama so I will probably watch a fair number of games going forward. I might watch Notre Dame and Iowa State, too.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

There are a fair number of games coming up that I plan to watch, I forgot about Minnesota/Auburn, Oregon/Wisconsin, Michigan/Alabama so I will probably watch a fair number of games going forward. I might watch Notre Dame and Iowa State, too.

Same here! I'm getting ready to watch Temple-UNC since it's my civic duty as an alum (I wasn't making the 4.5 hour drive). I'm a lifelong ND fan so their game against Iowa State is a must watch too even if ND should be playing Florida instead imo.

Kansas State vs Navy - two good, very well coached teams....
Penn State vs Memphis - Because it's the last time to root against the evil State Penn
LSU vs Oklahoma - obvious reasons
Ohio State vs Clemson - obvious reasons
Minnesota vs Auburn - intriguing game between two real good teams that would only happen in a bowl.
Michigan vs Alabama - Big game for both programs imo. Harbaugh needs to make a statement and Saban needs to build steam for 2020....
Oregon vs Wisconsin - Because you can't screw up the Rose Bowl...
Baylor vs Georgia - Rhule is a helluva of a coach. The Bulldogs are beatable....
Iowa vs USC - I've always rooted for Iowa when the opportunity presents itself. I hate USC...

[CHIP72]

I’m at the Military Bowl today.

I will not watch many of the other bowl games, or if I do, I won’t watch them closely.


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I’m at the Military Bowl today.

I will not watch many of the other bowl games, or if I do, I won’t watch them closely.


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UNC definitely looks to better through the first 30 minutes. Carey's looking at an 0-7 bowl record barring a major second half turnaround. Temple and UNC also seems like a possible NIT/NCAA First Round matchup at this point..

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Tar Heels 27-6 early in the 3rd quarter.

This is worse than last year's Duke game....lol. Carey vs Brown with time to prepare is clearly a mismatch...

[Nor Eastern]

Conference Bowl breakdown so far

Sun Belt
2-0 vs. CUSA
0-1 vs. Independents
2-1 vs. G5
2-1 Overall

Mountain West
1-0 vs. Independents
1-1 vs. MAC
0-1 vs. Pac12
2-1 vs. G5
0-1 vs. P5
2-2 Overall

MAC
1-0 vs. CUSA
1-1 vs. MWC
0-1 vs. ACC
2-1 vs. G5
0-1 vs. P5
2-2 Overall

Conference USA
1-0 vs. ACC
1-1 vs. AAC
0-1 vs. MAC
0-2 vs. SBC
1-4 vs. G5
1-0 vs. P5
2-4 Overall

American Athletic
1-1 vs. CUSA
1-1 vs. G5
0-1 vs. ACC
1-2 Overall

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

55-13 UNC with a little over 2 minutes left...

Glad I went to the gym soon after half. Also a good thing this will be quickly forgotten.

[JacksFan40]

Proud to say I haven't watched a single ****ty bowl game yet but I will probably watch KSU/Navy. And I will watch the FBS "playoff games" but that will be about it.
Most of the mediocre G5 games are done and it’s on to the P5 bowls which should be much better to watch.

[JacksFan40]

Same here! I'm getting ready to watch Temple-UNC since it's my civic duty as an alum (I wasn't making the 4.5 hour drive). I'm a lifelong ND fan so their game against Iowa State is a must watch too even if ND should be playing Florida instead imo.

Kansas State vs Navy - two good, very well coached teams....
Penn State vs Memphis - Because it's the last time to root against the evil State Penn
LSU vs Oklahoma - obvious reasons
Ohio State vs Clemson - obvious reasons
Minnesota vs Auburn - intriguing game between two real good teams that would only happen in a bowl.
Michigan vs Alabama - Big game for both programs imo. Harbaugh needs to make a statement and Saban needs to build steam for 2020....
Oregon vs Wisconsin - Because you can't screw up the Rose Bowl...
Baylor vs Georgia - Rhule is a helluva of a coach. The Bulldogs are beatable....
Iowa vs USC - I've always rooted for Iowa when the opportunity presents itself. I hate USC...
I’d throw A&M vs Oklahoma State in there as well. A&M played an absolutely brutal schedule and is better than most 7-5 teams. Mike Gundy always puts together good teams at Ok State, and it’s a reunion sort of for A&M getting to play an old Big 12 rival.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Air Force is taking it to Wazzu 17-7 late in the first half.

[POD Knows]

Same here! I'm getting ready to watch Temple-UNC since it's my civic duty as an alum (I wasn't making the 4.5 hour drive). I'm a lifelong ND fan so their game against Iowa State is a must watch too even if ND should be playing Florida instead imo.

Kansas State vs Navy - two good, very well coached teams....
Penn State vs Memphis - Because it's the last time to root against the evil State Penn
LSU vs Oklahoma - obvious reasons
Ohio State vs Clemson - obvious reasons
Minnesota vs Auburn - intriguing game between two real good teams that would only happen in a bowl.
Michigan vs Alabama - Big game for both programs imo. Harbaugh needs to make a statement and Saban needs to build steam for 2020....
Oregon vs Wisconsin - Because you can't screw up the Rose Bowl...
Baylor vs Georgia - Rhule is a helluva of a coach. The Bulldogs are beatable....
Iowa vs USC - I've always rooted for Iowa when the opportunity presents itself. I hate USC...Iowa put a beating on USC, I watched the second half of that game. Your points in the Michigan/Alabama game are right on, this is a yuge game for Michigan but I expect them to get blown out.

[JacksFan40]

Iowa put a beating on USC, I watched the second half of that game. Your points in the Michigan/Alabama game are right on, this is a yuge game for Michigan but I expect them to get blown out.
Depends on if Alabama cares. Last time they played in a non playoff/BCS championship game was 2013 when they missed the BCS title game and got sent to the Sugar Bowl. They got their ass kicked by Oklahoma.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Iowa put a beating on USC, I watched the second half of that game. Your points in the Michigan/Alabama game are right on, this is a yuge game for Michigan but I expect them to get blown out.

Iowa's a really good program. Their roster is loaded with future NFL guys yet a lot of people would think their talent level is subpar. It's tough to build a truly elite program in Iowa City but Ferentz certainly has a solid Top 15 outfit.

I would have loved to see Iowa vs Air Force. The Hawkeyes defense against the Falcon offense would have been really fun to watch. Air Force's defense is physical too. They took it to Wazzu last night. It's a shame a 10 win academy can't get a quality 8-9 win P5 program. The K-State-Navy game will do quite well.

[POD Knows]

Iowa's a really good program. Their roster is loaded with future NFL guys yet a lot of people would think their talent level is subpar. It's tough to build a truly elite program in Iowa State but Ferentz certainly has a solid Top 15 outfit.

I would have loved to see Iowa vs Air Force. The Hawkeyes defense against the Falcon offense would have been really fun to watch. Air Force's defense is physical too. They took it to Wazzu last night. It's a shame a 10 win academy can't get a quality 8-9 win P5 program. The K-State-Navy game will do quite well.that Navy KSU game might be a two hour game. Iowa State choking early against the Domers

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Penn State takes care of Memphis 53-39 in the Cotton Bowl. The Nittany Lions rushed for nearly 400 yards in the win.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Western Kentucky snuck by Western Michigan 23-20 in a really entertaining bowl game. I wasn't going to watch it but kind of got sucked in on a cold, rainy day. I thought both teams looked pretty good despite their so-so records.

[Laker]

Western Kentucky snuck by Western Michigan 23-20 in a really entertaining bowl game. I wasn't going to watch it but kind of got sucked in on a cold, rainy day. I thought both teams looked pretty good despite their so-so records.

Terrible coaching by WMU. TWICE they had too many men on the field on the last play of the game. At the college level you should be able to count with that many coaches and grad assistants. The WKU sideline was screaming and the Broncos got by with it the first time, they should have been thinking a little with three seconds to go in the game. That five yards set up the game winning field goal.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Terrible coaching by WMU. TWICE they had too many men on the field on the last play of the game. At the college level you should be able to count with that many coaches and grad assistants. The WKU sideline was screaming and the Broncos got by with it the first time, they should have been thinking a little with three seconds to go in the game. That five yards set up the game winning field goal.

Absolutely! I should have mentioned that! They originally opted for a hail mary instead of a 56'ish yard FG.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Cincinnati is up 17-0 on Boston College. BC is the perfect example of a team who has no business being in a bowl. How are the players suppose to succeed when the coaching staff is in complete disarray?

[CHIP72]

Cincinnati is up 17-0 on Boston College. BC is the perfect example of a team who has no business being in a bowl. How are the players suppose to succeed when the coaching staff is in complete disarray?

Hah! You should know GLTUOwl that BC was disarray when Steve Addazio was still the head coach!


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Hah! You should know GLTUOwl that BC was disarray when Steve Addazio was still the head coach!


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Ahh the Dazzler. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did on Chestnut Hill......

[Laker]

Ahh the Dazzler. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did on Chestnut Hill......

Does anyone know why Colorado State hired him? I mean, is he at all familiar with the mountain states, the competition, recruiting the areas (I would guess west coast)? Seems like a mismatch to me.

[CHIP72]

Does anyone know why Colorado State hired him? I mean, is he at all familiar with the mountain states, the competition, recruiting the areas (I would guess west coast)? Seems like a mismatch to me.

I think the wacky tobaccy in Colorado got to the CSU athletic director's head; that's probably the best explanation why Colorado State hired Steve Addazio.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Does anyone know why Colorado State hired him? I mean, is he at all familiar with the mountain states, the competition, recruiting the areas (I would guess west coast)? Seems like a mismatch to me.

It makes absolutely no sense imo. Addazio has been an East Coast guy for basically his entire life. He made a couple pit stops in Indiana but certainly hasn't spent much time west of the Mississippi. He's also a bit of a-hole according to people who have gotten to know him. He was not very well liked at Temple due to his macho/meathead personality. I don't see what he possibly brings to the table in Fort Collins.

Colorado State from afar would appear to be one of the best G5 jobs in the country. It's an awesome location and the school is really well respected. They've also had legit national success the last 25 years. Then again, I don't understand why Colorado hasn't been able re-emerge as a national power either. Colorado and Tennessee are probably the two biggest enigmas in the country imo.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Nevada and Ohio are battling it out in the Idaho Potato Bowl....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Ohio leads Nevada 31-9. They'll rename the stadium after Solich once he retires. The worst thing Nebraska ever did was run him out of Lincoln following a 9-3 2003 season. They've been chasing it ever since.....

[Laker]

Ohio leads Nevada 31-9. They'll rename the stadium after Solich once he retires. The worst thing Nebraska ever did was run him out of Lincoln following a 9-3 2003 season. They've been chasing it ever since.....

I'm glad that they doused Frank with french fries instead of Gatorade after the win. At 75 I don't want a repeat of George Allen. Such a class act, I think he just signed a four year extension.

[Bisonoline]

Ohio leads Nevada 31-9. They'll rename the stadium after Solich once he retires. The worst thing Nebraska ever did was run him out of Lincoln following a 9-3 2003 season. They've been chasing it ever since.....

Its one of the reasons why I laugh at the bug eaters.

[JayJ79]

I'm glad that they doused Frank with french fries instead of Gatorade after the win. At 75 I don't want a repeat of George Allen. Such a class act, I think he just signed a four year extension.

I did find that amusing. heck, I think I even saw him grab one of the fries and take a bite. haha

But I still can't stand that blue field (though it's better than that damn red one)

[Laker]

I did find that amusing. heck, I think I even saw him grab one of the fries and take a bite. haha

But I still can't stand that blue field (though it's better than that damn red one)

This is a very interesting read about the blue field.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/sports/ncaafootball/boise-state-mounts-a-paper-defense-of-its-home-turf.html

[JayJ79]

This is a very interesting read about the blue field.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/sports/ncaafootball/boise-state-mounts-a-paper-defense-of-its-home-turf.html

if actually true about owning a trademark on all non-green fields, then that is just plain ridiculous.
and I find it equally ridiculous about the claim that they own a trademark on the term "Bronco"
it's as asinine as Ohio State trademarking the word "the" or whatever they tried to do

that being said, I'd have zero issue with there being fewer non-green fields. Heck, I'd applaud any regulations that banned them completely

[Laker]

if actually true about owning a trademark on all non-green fields, then that is just plain ridiculous.
and I find it equally ridiculous about the claim that they own a trademark on the term "Bronco"
it's as asinine as Ohio State trademarking the word "the" or whatever they tried to do

I bet that if anyone actually took them to court that Boise would lose.

[JacksFan40]

Tulane defeats Southern Miss 30-13 in the Armed Forces Bowl.

[Laker]

Tulane defeats Southern Miss 30-13 in the Armed Forces Bowl.

The Green Wave wearing sky blue. It just didn't seem right.

[CHIP72]

The Green Wave wearing sky blue. It just didn't seem right.

Tulane has worn those sky blue uniforms most of this season.


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[JacksFan40]

Final bowl game today as 8-5 MAC Champions Miami OH take on 10-3 Sun Belt runner up Louisiana in the LendingTree Bowl at 6:30 PM CT.
I expect Louisiana to roll but you never know.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Final bowl game today as 8-5 MAC Champions Miami OH take on 10-3 Sun Belt runner up Louisiana in the LendingTree Bowl at 6:30 PM CT.
I expect Louisiana to roll but you never know.

Been a pretty good game!

[JacksFan40]

Bowl season is over as Louisiana caps off a great season with a 27-17 win over Miami OH.
Louisiana finishes 11-3 and Miami finishes 8-6.

[Nor Eastern]

G5 Conference Bowl Record:


SBC 3-2 .600
AAC 4-3 .571
MWC 4-3 .571
MAC 3-4 .429
CUSA 3-5 .375

[Laker]

San Diego State just announced that Rocky Long is "retiring" as SDSU head coach and confirmed that Brady Hoke has been promoted to head coach.

[Nor Eastern]

7 G5 teams made the final AP Poll:

#17 Memphis
#19 App State
#20 Navy
#21 Cincinnati
#22 Air Force
#23 Boise State
#24 UCF

AAC: Four Teams in Top 25
MWC: Two teams in Top 25
Sun Belt: One team in Top 25

[Nor Eastern]

Seems that Appalachian is the first Sun Belt team to finish the year in the final AP poll. They did it after 6 years (Transition Year + 5 FBS season) going 5-0 in Bowls.

Over that time the Sun Belt has announced on twitter that they now have the highest Bowl game winning percentage of any FBS conference (A5 or G5) during the last 4 years and is sitting at .667% as a conference.

The AAC finished the year with four ranked teams. That's more than the Big12, ACC, PAC12.

[Nor Eastern]

G5 Conference OOC vs. FBS winning percentages:

AAC : Wins 28 / Losses 17 / Total 62.22%
MWC : Wins 23 / Losses 21 / Total 52.27%
Sun Belt: Wins 15 / Losses 20 / Total 42.86%
CUSA : Wins 15 / Losses 36 / Total 29.41%
MAC : Wins 10 / Losses 34 / Total 22.73%

[Nor Eastern]

Final USAToday Coaches Poll

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/polls/amway-coaches-poll/

#17 - Memphis
#18 - Appalachian State
#20 - Navy
#21 - Cincinnati
#22 - Boise State
#23 - Air Force
#24 - UCF

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple football still doesn't have a deal done with the Eagles; aka we're currently homeless. There are growing concerns that two parties are still pretty far apart which is a BIG problem. The stadium issue has been a serious issue plaguing Temple football for 40 years. Having to go back to Franklin Field would be terrible! I'm not sure if ESPN would want to broadcast games from there. We played there when I was student and while it was cool it's literally another school's stadium! The idea of an on-campus stadium in North Philly seems to be DOA at this point. Just too many hurdles with city officials, the locals in the neighborhood and building costs because of Philly unions.


About eight months before Temple University football is scheduled to host their first home game, Temple still has no contract the Philadelphia Eagles to play football at Lincoln Financial Field in the fall.Bill Bergman, Temple’s vice president of external affairs, confirmed that the university has not yet reached a contract with the Eagles for the 2020-21 season.
A spokesperson for the Eagles did not respond to a request for comment.

https://temple-news.com/temple-still-without-contract-with-the-eagles-for-2020/

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Boise State and the MWC come to an agreement over TV...

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/story/2020-02-06/sdsu-aztecs-boise-state-broncos-mountain-west-tv-contract-vote-football-bonus

[Nor Eastern]

Looks like Temple and the Eagles have come to an agreement. 5 more years at Linc with an option to take 5 more years.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Looks like Temple and the Eagles have come to an agreement. 5 more years at Linc with an option to take 5 more years.

Was the only option we had! Our arrangement with Lurie/the Birds is horrible relative to every other public university in similar situations. Hopefully an on-campus stadium can finally be put into motion during this five year period.

[Nor Eastern]

Top 100 Preseason SP+ rankings:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28687236/preseason-sp+-college-football-rankings-alabama-back-no-1

#18 - UCF - AAC
#22 - Memphis - AAC
#34 - Cincinnati - AAC
#38 - Boise State - MWC
#39 - Appalachian State - Sun Belt
#51 - Louisiana - Sun Belt
#53 - BYU - Indy
#55 - Navy - AAC
#56 - SMU - AAC
#57 - WKU - CUSA
#63 - Houston - AAC
#65 - Air Force - MWC
#67 - Ohio - MAC
#68 - UAB - CUSA
#70 - FAU - CUSA
#72 - Temple - AAC
#73 - Tulane - AAC
#74 - SDSU - MWC
#77 - Marshall - CUSA
#79 - Colorado State - MWC
#80 - Buffalo - MAC
#82 - CMU - MAC
#83 - USF - AAC
#84 - Ball State - MAC
#85 - Troy - Sun Belt
#86 - Arkansas State - Sun Belt
#87 - Southern Miss - CUSA
#88 - Tulsa - AAC
#89 - Georgia Southern - Sun Belt
#90 - Wyoming - MWC
#92 - La Tech - CUSA
#93 - Toledo - MAC
#94 - Fresno State - MWC
#96 - ECU - AAC
#97 - WMU - MAC
#98 - Miami (OH) - MAC
#99 - Hawaii - MWC
#100 - Utah State- MWC

[Nor Eastern]

ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28726502/way-too-early-college-football-top-25-lsu-loses-ground-clemson-no-1

#17 - Cincinnati - American
#19 - Boise State - Mountain West
#24 - Appalachian State - Sun Belt

[Laker]

Shows spending/revenue for sports in Michigan colleges. Doesn't look good for the MAC schools.

https://www.mlive.com/news/2016/08/michigan_college_football_cost.html

[Laker]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EU21xZgWAAIGsGj?format=jpg&name=medium

[Laker]

Bowling Green drops baseball. I wonder how many more sports G5 teams will drop. Akron already cut some.

https://www.nbc4i.com/sports/bowling-green-cuts-baseball-program/

[cx500d]

Bowling Green drops baseball. I wonder how many more sports G5 teams will drop. Akron already cut some.

https://www.nbc4i.com/sports/bowling-green-cuts-baseball-program/
Do they still have bowling?

[citdog]

Bowling Green drops baseball. I wonder how many more sports G5 teams will drop. Akron already cut some.

https://www.nbc4i.com/sports/bowling-green-cuts-baseball-program/

Can't cut wymmins soccer though.

[Laker]

Nice to post some good news- Bowling Green to reinstate baseball. https://www.toledoblade.com/…/BGSU-rein…/stories/20200602125 (https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/bgsu/2020/06/02/BGSU-reinstates-baseball-program/stories/20200602125?fbclid=IwAR2y_A6MQqZF8RJm9RPB4fcb-CXne0zYVeWyGXURvJSz4AfErJdIBXvHOus)

[bonarae]

CUSA keeping full league schedule this season. But what about the money games with the FCS?

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/sports/college/utep/2020/07/30/report-conference-usa-keep-full-league-football-schedule-2020/5551508002/

[dgtw]

CUSA keeping full league schedule this season. But what about the money games with the FCS?

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/sports/college/utep/2020/07/30/report-conference-usa-keep-full-league-football-schedule-2020/5551508002/

How will they pay for them since they will be losing all the money games against SEC and ACC teams?

I wonder if they are keeping OOC games so they will have grounds to sue P5s for voiding contracts.


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[Laker]

Not just G5, but all 130 FBS teams. I'd like to see a similar post for all the FCS teams.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef9IYraX0AE1ly9?format=jpg&name=medium

[Nor Eastern]

Sun Belt goes 3-0 against the B12 yesterday with ULL taking down #23 Iowa State, ArkSt beating Kansas St, and CCU spanking Kansas

[Nor Eastern]

A G5 game is now the CBS game of the week on Saturday at 3:30pm

#23 App State @ Marshall

[tigonian02]

Beautiful

[Laker]

They are an independent, but I still put it here.

If you can't play- drink, New Mexico State isn't playing football until spring, but they have their own whisky called Six Shooter.

​​​​​​​https://apnews.com/article/new-mexico-31257967cdeb8e634cfc3cd7760971c6

[tigonian02]

Wow Congrats to Coastal Carolina for taking down BYU tonight.

[Laker]

Wow Congrats to Coastal Carolina for taking down BYU tonight.

Hats off to both teams for pulling this off on short notice instead of complaining about having a full week to prepare and finding reasons not to play. a lot was on the line and the country got to see a great game.

Big Ten- pay attention and take some lessons from your betters.

[Bisonoline]

Hats off to both teams for pulling this off on short notice instead of complaining about having a full week to prepare and finding reasons not to play. a lot was on the line and the country got to see a great game.

Big Ten- pay attention and take some lessons from your betters.

I love it. Set the game. Strap it on and play.

[Laker]

UNLV eats sushi off of a model, then apologizes. The only thing he should apologize for is eating sushi.

​​​​​​​https://sports.yahoo.com/unlv-qb-apologizes-for-eating-sushi-off-model-on-reality-tv-show-212741248.html

[tigonian02]

UNLV eats sushi off of a model, then apologizes. The only thing he should apologize for is eating sushi.

​​​​​​​https://sports.yahoo.com/unlv-qb-apologizes-for-eating-sushi-off-model-on-reality-tv-show-212741248.html

Haha, this is Golden. Agree with the post above. Should have been steak.

[Laker]

Haha, this is Golden. Agree with the post above. Should have been steak.

I was going to say chicken breast, but I didn't want people to get the wrong idea and I didn't see the model.

[Laker]

Sun Belt championship game b/w Coastal Carolina & Louisiana canceled because of COVID issues w/Coastal. They have been designated as co-champions.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Sun Belt championship game b/w Coastal Carolina & Louisiana canceled because of COVID issues w/Coastal. They have been designated as co-champions.

I feel bad for both teams! They each had terrific, nationally relevant seasons and seemed poised for SBC Title game clash...

Ball State has gone off on Buffalo in the second quarter to take a 35-21 lead at the half.....

UAB leads Marshall 9-0 at halftime....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Conference USA Title Game - UAB 22 Marshall 13
MAC Title Game: Ball State 38 Buffalo 28

Really surprised by the MAC score. Buffalo was dominant all year. I honestly though they looked the part of a Top 20 team and disrespected relative to the other top G5 teams. Ooops.....

[Laker]

Conference USA Title Game - UAB 22 Marshall 13
MAC Title Game: Ball State 38 Buffalo 28

Really surprised by the MAC score. Buffalo was dominant all year. I honestly though they looked the part of a Top 20 team and disrespected relative to the other top G5 teams. Ooops.....

Ball State seemed to come out of nowhere this season. I just hope that they can fix their 0-7 bowl record with a win this year. Buffalo was a pretty tough team and the Cards really moved the ball on them. The turning point were those two quick TDs right before half.

USC must have lost their rabbit's foot that they have used in the 4th quarter all season.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

G5 Bowls so far, can we call them the "segregation" bowls at this point?

Myrtle Beach Bowl
Appalachian State (8-3) vs North Texas (4-5)

Idaho Potato Bowl
Tulane (6-5) vs Nevada (6-2)

Boca Raton Bowl
UCF (6-3) vs #16 BYU (10-1)

New Orleans Bowl
La Tech (5-4) vs Georgia Southern (7-5, 12 games?!?!)

Montgomery Bowl
Memphis (7-3) vs Florida Atlantic (5-3)

New Mexico Bowl
Hawaii (4-4) vs Houston (3-4), junk...

Camelia Bowl
Marshall (7-2) vs Buffalo (5-1)

Cure Bowl
Liberty (9-1) vs #12 Coastal Carolina (11-0)

First Responder Bowl
#19 Louisiana (9-1) vs UT-San Antonio (7-4)

LendingTree Bowl
WKU (5-6) vs Georgia State (5-4)

Arizona Bowl
Ball State (6-1) vs #22 San Jose State (6-0)

[Laker]

9-2 Army won't be going to a bowl, being passed over by teams that won 2 and 3 games.

When bowls start acting like bowels, get rid of them.

[Chalupa Batman]

9-2 Army won't be going to a bowl, being passed over by teams that won 2 and 3 games.

When bowls start acting like bowels, get rid of them.

When I read this I thought either that can't be right or maybe they opted out, but nope.

Back in January they were guaranteed a spot in the Independence Bowl against a Pac-12 opponent if it reached at least 6 wins. Every potential Pac-12 opponent for Army opted out of bowl games, giving Army no opponent. Instead of pivoting and finding another school to play Army, the Independence Bowl selection committee decided to cancel the bowl altogether. I'm guessing by that time all the other bowls had set their matchups, leaving Army out in the wind.

Meanwhile the following teams are playing in bowls this year: Kentucky (4-6), Tennessee (3-6), Arkansas (3-7), Mississippi State (2-7), and South Carolina (2-8).

I know this is an unusual year, but there is no ****ing way any of those teams should be playing in bowl games ahead of Army. More proof that college football is broken.

[bonarae]

When I read this I thought either that can't be right or maybe they opted out, but nope.

Back in January they were guaranteed a spot in the Independence Bowl against a Pac-12 opponent if it reached at least 6 wins. Every potential Pac-12 opponent for Army opted out of bowl games, giving Army no opponent. Instead of pivoting and finding another school to play Army, the Independence Bowl selection committee decided to cancel the bowl altogether. I'm guessing by that time all the other bowls had set their matchups, leaving Army out in the wind.

Meanwhile the following teams are playing in bowls this year: Kentucky (4-6), Tennessee (3-6), Arkansas (3-7), Mississippi State (2-7), and South Carolina (2-8).

I know this is an unusual year, but there is no ****ing way any of those teams should be playing in bowl games ahead of Army. More proof that college football is broken.

Are this year's Army team the FBS version of the Browns of 2007? xchinscratchx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

App State vs UNT on Coastal's Teal Turf, the symbolism is fascinating to me... xeyebrowxxoopsx

[JacksFan40]

When I read this I thought either that can't be right or maybe they opted out, but nope.

Back in January they were guaranteed a spot in the Independence Bowl against a Pac-12 opponent if it reached at least 6 wins. Every potential Pac-12 opponent for Army opted out of bowl games, giving Army no opponent. Instead of pivoting and finding another school to play Army, the Independence Bowl selection committee decided to cancel the bowl altogether. I'm guessing by that time all the other bowls had set their matchups, leaving Army out in the wind.

Meanwhile the following teams are playing in bowls this year: Kentucky (4-6), Tennessee (3-6), Arkansas (3-7), Mississippi State (2-7), and South Carolina (2-8).

I know this is an unusual year, but there is no ****ing way any of those teams should be playing in bowl games ahead of Army. More proof that college football is broken.
What a freaking joke that those teams get a bowl over Army. Army would run all over them as well, what a shame.
Those teams should follow the PAC-12 and opt out of their bowl games, no team below .500 deserves a bowl game.

[Hammerhead]

I can't see a G5 team ever getting into the playoffs unless they beat two top 6 teams in their non-conference play and there are not 4 unbeaten P5 teams. Even then, the selection committee could say the marquee wins were early in the season and don't have as much weight since the G5 team has been beating up on teams like Northeast A&M Tech and Our Lady of Perpetual Motion since September.


G5 Bowls so far, can we call them the "segregation" bowls at this point?

Myrtle Beach Bowl
Appalachian State (8-3) vs North Texas (4-5)

Idaho Potato Bowl
Tulane (6-5) vs Nevada (6-2)

Boca Raton Bowl
UCF (6-3) vs #16 BYU (10-1)

New Orleans Bowl
La Tech (5-4) vs Georgia Southern (7-5, 12 games?!?!)

Montgomery Bowl
Memphis (7-3) vs Florida Atlantic (5-3)

New Mexico Bowl
Hawaii (4-4) vs Houston (3-4), junk...

Camelia Bowl
Marshall (7-2) vs Buffalo (5-1)

Cure Bowl
Liberty (9-1) vs #12 Coastal Carolina (11-0)

First Responder Bowl
#19 Louisiana (9-1) vs UT-San Antonio (7-4)

LendingTree Bowl
WKU (5-6) vs Georgia State (5-4)

Arizona Bowl
Ball State (6-1) vs #22 San Jose State (6-0)

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Sounds like there have discussion, at least via email, between Boise State and the AAC. Apparently Boise State wants to join the AAC for all sports while the AAC just wants them for football. Honestly, I don't care either way.....

[Laker]

Sounds like Army may be replacing Tennessee (Covid) in the Liberty Bowl vs West Virginia.

[Bisonoline]

Sounds like Army may be replacing Tennessee (Covid) in the Liberty Bowl vs West Virginia.

It would be the honorable thing to do since TN shouldnt have been going anyway.

[JacksFan40]

Sounds like Army may be replacing Tennessee (Covid) in the Liberty Bowl vs West Virginia.
Good, Tennessee has no business in a bowl game.

[JacksFan40]

Sounds like there have discussion, at least via email, between Boise State and the AAC. Apparently Boise State wants to join the AAC for all sports while the AAC just wants them for football. Honestly, I don't care either way.....
Wonder what the MWC would do if Boise leaves, would they consider NDSU? Though if NDSU moved, SDSU will follow, they’re basically inseparable at this point.
If Boise leaves, I’d bet they possibly invite NMSU to get both New Mexico teams.

[Laker]

Wonder what the MWC would do if Boise leaves, would they consider NDSU? Though if NDSU moved, SDSU will follow, they’re basically inseparable at this point.
If Boise leaves, I’d bet they possibly invite NMSU to get both New Mexico teams.

I wonder if BSU is still interested after their coach has left for Auburn.

Football is one thing, but I can't imagine the AAC taking them for all sports. And if they leave the MWC in one sport they might kick them out for all. Then who would they turn to- the Big Sky? The WCC wouldn't want them.

[JacksFan40]

I wonder if BSU is still interested after their coach has left for Auburn.

Football is one thing, but I can't imagine the AAC taking them for all sports. And if they leave the MWC in one sport they might kick them out for all. Then who would they turn to- the Big Sky? The WCC wouldn't want them.
The Big Sky would be the only logical conference geographically, but that’d be a downgrade from the MWC. The WCC is all private schools, so that’s a no go. The only other one is the Big West and that’s all California and Hawaii.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The Bowls so far have been pretty bad...

App State 56 North Texas 28
BYU 49 UCF 23
Nevada 38 Tulane 27 - This game was reasonably competitive
Memphis 25 FAU 10
Hawaii 28 Houston 14
Buffalo 17 Marshall 10 - Easily the best bowl so far. Two good G5 programs going at it...
Georgia State 39 WKU 21
Louisiana 31 UTSA 24 - This was a fun game. The Ragin Cajuns deserve a Top 15 final ranking. I was really impressed with UTSA.

Coastal Carolina vs Liberty is on at 7:30. This probably the first bowl with some national interest. The biggest question imo is will either coach be in their current position 2 weeks from now?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Liberty leads CCU 17-13 at the half

Flames jumped out to an early 14-0 lead then the Chants settled down and got back into to it. This one feels like it should go down to the wire. Both are legitimately good FBS teams....

[JacksFan40]

Liberty blocks FG in OT to defeat CCU, 37-34.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Liberty blocks a 42 yard FG in OT to preserve a 37-34 win! Liberty literally fumbled at the 1 inch line trying NOT to score at the end of regulation.

This game definitely lived up to expectations! It felt like an old school bowl game with a lot of on the line! With that said, it should have either been a NYE type game or pair both teams up with Top 25 level P5 squads.

[Laker]

Liberty blocks a 42 yard FG in OT to preserve a 37-34 win! Liberty literally fumbled at the 1 inch line trying NOT to score at the end of regulation.

This game definitely lived up to expectations! It felt like an old school bowl game with a lot of on the line! With that said, it should have either been a NYE type game or pair both teams up with Top 25 level P5 squads.

Best bowl game so far. Liberty is underrated with only one loss. Their QB played a heck of a game.

[Laker]

Liberty blocks a 42 yard FG in OT to preserve a 37-34 win! Liberty literally fumbled at the 1 inch line trying NOT to score at the end of regulation.

This game definitely lived up to expectations! It felt like an old school bowl game with a lot of on the line! With that said, it should have either been a NYE type game or pair both teams up with Top 25 level P5 squads.

Double post.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

AAC runner-up Tulsa is about to lose to 3-7 Mississippi State. Leach had the Bulldogs motivated and Tulsa simply came up small over and over in the red zone.

Ball State is giving #22 San Jose State the business 27-0 early in the second quarter.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Huge brawl to end the Mississippi State-Tulsa game! One of the worst football brawls I've seen with actual injuries. Horrific ending....ugh...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

https://youtu.be/Bnr_wyEd3Sc?t=77

[Bisonoline]

Huge brawl to end the Mississippi State-Tulsa game! One of the worst football brawls I've seen with actual injuries. Horrific ending....ugh...

WTF is the matter with those people???????

[Chalupa Batman]

https://youtu.be/Bnr_wyEd3Sc?t=77

I've always like Leach but wasn't too impressed with his comments after the game. Blaming Tulsa for the whole thing without directly saying it. And then completely downplayed the whole thing as not that big of a deal.

[POD Knows]

I've always like Leach but wasn't too impressed with his comments after the game. Blaming Tulsa for the whole thing without directly saying it. And then completely downplayed the whole thing as not that big of a deal.
They should give both teams a couple years worth of suspensions from bowls, maybe pull some scholly's or something, his post game interview was pretty bad.

[bonarae]

Do you think there should be a 25% contraction in the number of bowl games in the future? xchinscratchx

[POD Knows]

Do you think there should be a 25% contraction in the number of bowl games in the future? xchinscratchxYea, that would be a good start.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Do you think there should be a 25% contraction in the number of bowl games in the future? xchinscratchx

I absolutely believe some of these bowls will disappear due to Covid restrictions/being postponed. How many? I'd say anywhere from 5-12'ish? There's no question the bowl system needs some amount of contraction. ESPN can't afford to subsidize these exhibitions anymore. Especially in our current Covid climate.

I still don't think an expanded playoff is the answer. Honestly, if fans/schools want "equal" opportunity go back to the voting process. Public sentiment and the media gives Cincinnati, Boise State, Memphis, Coastal Carolina etc a better shot at a title than an 8 team playoff.

[Chalupa Batman]

Do you think there should be a 25% contraction in the number of bowl games in the future? xchinscratchx

At least 25%.

In 2019 there were 39 bowls not counting the CFP championship game, which means 78 of 130 teams played a bowl game. There’s not really any achievement in reaching a bowl anymore. I think 40-50 teams getting to play a bowl game is a good number which would mean 20-25 bowl games.


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[JayJ79]

I still don't think an expanded playoff is the answer. Honestly, if fans/schools want "equal" opportunity go back to the voting process. Public sentiment and the media gives Cincinnati, Boise State, Memphis, Coastal Carolina etc a better shot at a title than an 8 team playoff.
those teams would have a 0% chance at a "title" if the "championship" went back to being a popularity contest (i.e. a voting process).
they have less than 1% chance with the current playoff process.
the only chance any of those schools would ever have at a "title" was if whatever "playoff" system had one spot reserved for a team outside the P5/ND, and you know that will never happen unless there is at least an 8-team playoff.

And even if there was an 8-team playoff, with one spot reserved for a G5 team, the chances of any G5 team winning 3 playoff games against top 7 P5 teams is still quite minute.

[caribbeanhen]

Who won the orange bowl last night?

Sugar bowl followed by Rose Bowl today....

The good ole days

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Cincinnati leads UGA 14-10 at half

Great game so far. Both teams have played hard and spirited. So long as it ends peacefully I'll call it a success....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

those teams would have a 0% chance at a "title" if the "championship" went back to being a popularity contest (i.e. a voting process).
they have less than 1% chance with the current playoff process.
the only chance any of those schools would ever have at a "title" was if whatever "playoff" system had one spot reserved for a team outside the P5/ND, and you know that will never happen unless there is at least an 8-team playoff.

And even if there was an 8-team playoff, with one spot reserved for a G5 team, the chances of any G5 team winning 3 playoff games against top 7 P5 teams is still quite minute.

I still think public sentiment and the media getting behind a "worthy underdog" is the best route. The reason Boise State had a chance in 2010 was the human factor in the polls. The computers did not particularly like them. If they got in over Oregon is was going to be because of their win over the Ducks in 2009 and the fact the Broncos had built up a cult like national following. Oregon had a unique brand too relative to the old guard but the average joe wasn't as intrigued with them like he was with Boise.

Gonzaga has basically become an accepted elite, power bball program (without winning a title) because the casual college bball fan fell in love with them. They had staying power because people never got sick of them, even when they couldn't get over the Final 4 hump until 2017. The media was quick to follow and the networks started to feature their games as well as other WCC contests. WCC college basketball has legitimate value because of Gonzaga. They've become the premier program on the West Coast.

You need people to rally around a belief or cause which would happen if it was voting only. Public/media sentiment without question helped Bobby Bowden in 1993 and Tom Osborne in 1994. I know they were at power programs but those two had become fairly sympathetic figures in their tough luck/can't win a title careers to that point. BYU was voted #1 in 1984; their resume didn't scream consensus champs.

[JayJ79]

Cincinnati leads UGA 14-10 at half

Great game so far. Both teams have played hard and spirited. So long as it ends peacefully I'll call it a success....

and the Bearcats really stank it up in that second half (other than that one long run)

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

and the Bearcats really stank it up in that second half (other than that one long run)

UGA dominated the second half. Cinci's defense was awesome all game in the RZ but UGA got into FG range just enough times. The clock mgt at the end was rather awful. I have no issue with throwing it on 3rd and 2. Lots of times coaches have thrown it to win in that situation.

[tigonian02]

G5 Bowls so far, can we call them the "segregation" bowls at this point?

Myrtle Beach Bowl
Appalachian State (8-3) vs North Texas (4-5)

Idaho Potato Bowl
Tulane (6-5) vs Nevada (6-2)

Boca Raton Bowl
UCF (6-3) vs #16 BYU (10-1)

New Orleans Bowl
La Tech (5-4) vs Georgia Southern (7-5, 12 games?!?!)

Montgomery Bowl
Memphis (7-3) vs Florida Atlantic (5-3)

New Mexico Bowl
Hawaii (4-4) vs Houston (3-4), junk...

Camelia Bowl
Marshall (7-2) vs Buffalo (5-1)

Cure Bowl
Liberty (9-1) vs #12 Coastal Carolina (11-0)

First Responder Bowl
#19 Louisiana (9-1) vs UT-San Antonio (7-4)

LendingTree Bowl
WKU (5-6) vs Georgia State (5-4)

Arizona Bowl
Ball State (6-1) vs #22 San Jose State (6-0)
8-5 so 13 games. I believe Georgia Southern and Alabama are the only teams in the country that have played 13 games.

[tigonian02]

Brutal but true:

https://www.underdogdynasty.com/platform/amp/conference-usa/2020/12/31/22206936/conference-usa-hit-rock-bottom-in-2020-cusa-sun-belt-coaching-hires-realignment-tv-contract

[Grizalltheway]

Well, I suspect Dabo will think twice before running his mouth again.

[JayJ79]

Well, I suspect Dabo will think twice before running his mouth again.
was he running his mouth about the G5?

[Laker]

Doc Halliday fired at Marshall. Maybe this story should be in the political column.

https://www.smokingmusket.com/2017/4/13/15290072/jim-justice-doc-holliday-wv-governor-marshall

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Doc Halliday fired at Marshall. Maybe this story should be in the political column.

https://www.smokingmusket.com/2017/4/13/15290072/jim-justice-doc-holliday-wv-governor-marshall

His contract was up and they didn't renew it. He wasn't actually fired. It's weird how the governor and the BOT's were the ones that decided not re-up him. I haven't found anything specific as to why the governor felt he needed to get involved.

This is a darn good job imo. CUSA is definitely a bit of a dumpster fire but Marshall's name and brand is able to overcome that. Cramsey makes sense if they want to keep it inhouse. Otherwise, the outside applicant pool should be strong.

[Grizalltheway]

was he running his mouth about the G5?

Maybe? xlolx

[Laker]

Ohio Bobcats head football coach Frank Solich is stepping down due to cardiac problems. He was one of my favorite coaches.

[CHIP72]

Temple's game at Rutgers, scheduled for Thursday 9/2 at 6:30 PM ET, has been postponed to Saturday 9/4 at 12 PM ET due to severe flooding in and near New Brunswick due to the remnants of Hurricane Ida.

[tigonian02]

AAC is getting wrecked today. Tulsa lost to UC Davis, ECU got destroyed by App State. UCF currently down big against Blose St. Yikes!

[JacksFan40]

AAC is getting wrecked today. Tulsa lost to UC Davis, ECU got destroyed by App State. UCF currently down big against Blose St. Yikes!
UCF has turned it around though, up 28-24 now.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Rumor has it that UCF, Cincinnati, BYU and Houston will be invited to the Big 12?

[Reign of Terrier]

it's not much of a rumor now since it's being reported by a bunch of media outlets. You could say it's a "report" at this point

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Rutgers 61 Temple 14 Final

This is up there with some of Temple's "all-time worst losses". Given the Owl's football history that puts thins in legit perspective. Today's game was awful for numerous reasons. Perhaps no nothing more significant than the simple optics and how it relates to the current AAC "climate change"....

[Reign of Terrier]

And Rutgers...is Rutgers

[Bisonoline]

Rutgers 61 Temple 14 Final

This is up there with some of Temple's "all-time worst losses". Given the Owl's football history that puts thins in legit perspective. Today's game was awful for numerous reasons. Perhaps no nothing more significant than the simple optics and how it relates to the current AAC "climate change"....

wasnt Temple decent last year?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

wasnt Temple decent last year?

1-6 in 2020
8-5 in 2019, got destroyed by UNC in our bowl game....

[JacksFan40]

1-6 in 2020
8-5 in 2019, got destroyed by UNC in our bowl game....
So either Temple is trending backwards, or Rutgers is just really good now. I think Rutgers will continue to progress with Schiano back at the helm, so that is definitely part of it.

[tigonian02]

So either Temple is trending backwards, or Rutgers is just really good now. I think Rutgers will continue to progress with Schiano back at the helm, so that is definitely part of it.

I think it's both. Temple had sone great years a while back, but has lately been trending back to old habits. Rutgers still isn't good, but are making good recruiting strides. I don't know if it'll help them long term, but they are playing with a little more swagger.

[CHIP72]

I think it's both. Temple had sone great years a while back, but has lately been trending back to old habits. Rutgers still isn't good, but are making good recruiting strides. I don't know if it'll help them long term, but they are playing with a little more swagger.

I also think it is a little of both. Rutgers is becoming more competitive in Greg Schiano's second go-around, and though I don't expect the Scarlet Knights to ever be a Big Ten power, I can see them as a mid-pack Big Ten team that plays in bowl games many seasons in the not too distant future.

As for Temple, their decision to hire former Northern Illinois head coach Rod Carey as their head coach prior to the 2019 season is proving to be disaster. I'm not sure why Carey, who had a good though not great track record at Northern Illinois, does not appear to be able to repeat his success in Philadelphia, but the Owls' football program is quickly heading in the wrong direction under his watch.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple at Akron this weekend! This could be an early elimination game for "Top 3 worse FBS team accolades" at the end of the year! Temple is about a TD favorite in the Rubber City....

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1436142470925111297
(https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1436142470925111297)
The Sun Belt is looking to raid CUSA. It would've been laughable 10-15 years ago but it's very realistic now.

If the AAC is going to add teams in the mold of UAB, Rice, Charlotte, and ODU the Sun Belt is poised to become at least the #2 G5 league, maybe the #1.

[Reign of Terrier]

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1436142470925111297
(https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1436142470925111297)
The Sun Belt is looking to raid CUSA. It would've been laughable 10-15 years ago but it's very realistic now.

If the AAC is going to add teams in the mold of UAB, Rice, Charlotte, and ODU the Sun Belt is poised to become at least the #2 G5 league, maybe the #1.

My bet: if the AAC raids CUSA, the Sun Belt pushes for Marshall. No idea what the second team would be, but there's a lot of history between those teams.

[Laker]

It is official. And BYU has already accepted. Now what other dominos will fall?

Big 12 Extends Membership Invitations - Big 12 Conference (big12sports.com) (https://big12sports.com/news/2021/9/10/conference-big-12-extends-membership-invitations.aspx)

[Nor Eastern]

This will ripple through every conference.


AAC is going to be forced to add. Sun Belt looks to have interest in expanding regardless if they lose teams or not. CUSA has apparently contacted Jim Delany for consulting. MWC is being coy.

[Reign of Terrier]

Yeah, the twitterverse is buzzing. Apparently James Madison is in contact with a few conferences.

Given all we've discussed so far with regard to how money, location, and media plays into these decisions, I have no idea how this will play out. All of these conferences seem to publicly state that they want to be aggressive and prioritize football (in some manner of speaking), but the thing is, all the available good football teams (with the exception of UAB) don't have a great market. And those that have a great market, don't have good teams (at least historically).

I'll be interested in what the incentives are. There seems to be some sort of incentive to create a good athletic conference, somewhat regardless of money. Sun Belt wants to be the best G5 conference as a brand, and I think that helps. This is me speculating out loud, I know just as much as the next guy, which isn't much.

[JacksFan40]

Yeah, the twitterverse is buzzing. Apparently James Madison is in contact with a few conferences.

Given all we've discussed so far with regard to how money, location, and media plays into these decisions, I have no idea how this will play out. All of these conferences seem to publicly state that they want to be aggressive and prioritize football (in some manner of speaking), but the thing is, all the available good football teams (with the exception of UAB) don't have a great market. And those that have a great market, don't have good teams (at least historically).

I'll be interested in what the incentives are. There seems to be some sort of incentive to create a good athletic conference, somewhat regardless of money. Sun Belt wants to be the best G5 conference as a brand, and I think that helps. This is me speculating out loud, I know just as much as the next guy, which isn't much.
On the tweet related to the Sun Belt expanding, I saw JMU’s name being thrown around by numerous people.
Also saw talks of the Sun Belt dropping some of the deadweight like Texas State in favor of teams like Marshall.

[Reign of Terrier]

Read today that Old Dominion would probably be in favor of moving to another conference without as much of a travel budget (that's what a report they commissioned last year said)

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I posted this on the Temple board...pretty much sums up my Temple thoughts without writing a book...which i could....

"I'm with those who think market size is overrated in the grand scheme of things. When it comes to college athletics the ultimate market is simply the school and whatever bond/connection the institution can develop with the casual viewer. Joe Schmo in Scranton here doesn't give two craps if App State is in Boone or Charlotte. Neither does 98% of the country. Marshall has national name recognition due to a tragic event and a very good history of success, support and positive culture; "We Are Marshall" truly is more than a movie.

Needless to say I'm on the App State and Marshall bandwagon and have been since the 1990s. Those Marshall 1-AA title battles with Youngstown State and Montana were great. The biggest upset in 2007 was Pitt over West Virginia, not App State vs Michigan; but reality isn't a historic story. These are schools that take football seriously. I'd happily travel to both for games home and away. A game at "The Rock" in Boone has been in my bucket list since the late 1990s. Marshall since those 1-AA title games on CBS a week or two before Christmas.

I'm honestly not opposed to a move to the Sun Belt if that conference commits to hoops. Basketball MUST be protected in this imo. That is Temple's historical sport of relevance. As for the SBC, App State and Georgia Southern are two of the winningest programs at any level over the last 40 years. Those are football looney schools. Coastal Carolina is currently on ESPN2 at home beating Kansas. Troy has some good history and Temple has some institutional similarities with Georgia State (although Georgia State football since its inception is below average to poor). Louisiana-Lafayette football is a lot like Temple, good last decade but overall not a pretty history. If the SBC would be interested in shedding some of the dead weight I'd be open to exploring the idea. Or how about a conference with Temple, App State, ECU, Marshall, Georgia Southern, UAB, ULL, Coastal Carolina, Georgia State, USF? Memphis (likely gone)?, ODU?, JMU? Buffalo?

We're in a brutal spot but I'm not surprised. The Temple "Athletic Culture" is very unique for various reasons; location, student body/alumni, university leadership, Pennsylvania higher-ed politics, TV, conferences etc. All those things, and many more, have joined forces to put us in our latest conundrum. I really don't know what the answer is and I've followed the ins and outs of college athletics (covered PL football for a few seasons) at a unique level and prospective my whole life.

How sustainable is football at the Linc if we can only draw 5-10k people? Without a quality slate of games what is basketball's floor? I'd love to say ceiling but I can see a situation where we're averaging 1,500-2k.

There are obviously many ways this can play out. Anything from hitching our wagon at the last second to the "big boys" to being Philly's Wayne State....."

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Take it with a grain of salt, but this is what I heard from someone who knows our AD well:

UAB is about the only school the AAC leftovers can really agree on, and even that's not a sure thing. Temple has different ideas of what they think the new AAC should look like versus Navy, ECU, and the western bloc like Tulane and Tulsa. And it's further complicated by the fact that the Big 12 may still invite Memphis and SMU, and whether SMU decides to go to the MWC and that could change who might agree to join the AAC.

All G5 realignment is on hold until IMO until the other P5s decide who they want (if anyone) from the Big 12 leftovers.

[walliver]

If I was an AD, I would hope to have a few years for things to settle down. With NIL and what seems to be turning into free-agency in football, the college football landscape down 3-4 years from now may be quite different.

There seem to be a number of FCS teams looking to move up, but I don't know if the terms FCS and FBS will mean much in 4 years.

[tigonian02]

If I was an AD, I would hope to have a few years for things to settle down. With NIL and what seems to be turning into free-agency in football, the college football landscape down 3-4 years from now may be quite different.

There seem to be a number of FCS teams looking to move up, but I don't know if the terms FCS and FBS will mean much in 4 years.
Yeah I can totally see it going back to D1 A and AA

[tigonian02]

On the tweet related to the Sun Belt expanding, I saw JMU’s name being thrown around by numerous people.
Also saw talks of the Sun Belt dropping some of the deadweight like Texas State in favor of teams like Marshall.

The primary targeted schools are Marshall and USM. Marshall has history with GS and App, and would fit nicely into the SBC east. USM has a little history with the West. They aren't great currently in sports, but it bridges the western part of the conference and makes them happy. If we go to 14 schools (which is unclear), JMU stands a decent chance to be invited.

The SBC isn't explicitly dropping any schools. They are "helping" the basketball only schools find new homes. Texas State isn't being dumped.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Marshall at App State at The Rock on ESPN! Great atmosphere!

[bonarae]

Chad Lunsford is out...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/georgia-southern-fires-coach-chad-lunsford-after-three-straight-losses-1-3-start-to-season/

[Laker]

Chad Lunsford is out...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/georgia-southern-fires-coach-chad-lunsford-after-three-straight-losses-1-3-start-to-season/

Seems a little quick on the trigger- one of the losses was to Arkansas.

[Reign of Terrier]

They're offense was always bad, and there was a lot of bad discipline on that team. They had a player shotgun a beer on top of a bus on the way to the stadium Saturday. Said player jumped offsides twice during the game.

Lunsford didn't have head coaching experience and they want an actually good leader over there in statesboro

[Laker]

They're offense was always bad, and there was a lot of bad discipline on that team. They had a player shotgun a beer on top of a bus on the way to the stadium Saturday. Said player jumped offsides twice during the game.

Lunsford didn't have head coaching experience and they want an actually good leader over there in statesboro

Wow. I can't imagine what would have happened to a player who did that on my college football team. Mel Lewis would have tied him to the tackling dummy.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Chad Lunsford is out...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/georgia-southern-fires-coach-chad-lunsford-after-three-straight-losses-1-3-start-to-season/

Georgia Southern is very much a peaks and valley program. I mentioned this a couple of years ago and a GSU fan or two took exception to comment. A lot of nuances in Statesboro....

[tigonian02]

Georgia Southern is very much a peaks and valley program. I mentioned this a couple of years ago and a GSU fan or two took exception to comment. A lot of nuances in Statesboro....

The peaks and valleys generally are cyclical. As a flexbone TO team, we generally were stable. EVERY TIME we deviated from the option, we hit heavy valleys. The last 5 years have been mostly valleys. Trying to appease the option fans, while also modernizing the offense just didn't pan out once Fritz left. I'm all for going to something more traditional. We have a freshman QB that's ready for it, and our team is probably closer to a spread configuration anyways. I want to say that i'm not against the option either, but if we go that route, it needs to be in the flexbone. Chad Lunsford was a good man, but he wasn't ready to be a HC. He got a good payday from it and so I'm happy for him in that regard. Our former AD made two terrible hires back to back. Hopefully our new AD has learned from his mistakes.

- - - Updated - - -


Wow. I can't imagine what would have happened to a player who did that on my college football team. Mel Lewis would have tied him to the tackling dummy.

After the coach was fired, he was suspended indefinitely

[Laker]

After the coach was fired, he was suspended indefinitely

Good.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Have heard from a reliable source Southern Miss is going to be announcing a move to the Sun Belt real soon and probably at least 1 other CUSA team (Marshall is rumored).

It's funny because back in 2012 and 2013 CUSA basically had their pick of who they wanted from FBS-interested FCS teams and Sun Belt teams and now they're going to be the ones that get raided.

[Reign of Terrier]

I wouldn't be surprised if ODU followed.

[JacksFan40]

Colorado State destroyed New Mexico 36-7 and is 3-3 and sitting alone at the top of the MWC Mountain Division. That win is just getting better and better for SDSU.

[CHIP72]

According to various sources, the American Athletic Conference is in talks to add up to 6 schools - Charlotte, Florida Atlantic, Alabama-Birmimgham, North Texas, Texas-San Antonio, and Rice - to replace the schools leaving for the Big 12 (Central Florida, Cincinnati, and Houston).

If this move goes through in full, IMO it would be a disaster for Temple athletics. It would be even more on a geographic island than it is now, and it would likely kill the TU basketball program while also harming the football program. I know GLTUOwl has made various comments on the Temple board raising concern about the possible additions to the AAC.

[JacksFan40]

According to various sources, the American Athletic Conference is in talks to add up to 6 schools - Charlotte, Florida Atlantic, Alabama-Birmimgham, North Texas, Texas-San Antonio, and Rice - to replace the schools leaving for the Big 12 (Central Florida, Cincinnati, and Houston).

If this move goes through in full, IMO it would be a disaster for Temple athletics. It would be even more on a geographic island than it is now, and it would likely kill the TU basketball program while also harming the football program. I know GLTUOwl has made various comments on the Temple board raising concern about the possible additions to the AAC.
Yeah the AAC is definitely moving to the South.
What’s the possibility of Temple joining another conference for basketball like the Big East, and just going Independent in football? It’s not the most ideal situation but Temple’s nearest G5 conference is going to be the MAC, and the P5s won’t invite them so they’re kind of screwed.

[JacksFan40]

Way it sounds is that Marshall and Southern Miss are getting close to signing off on moving to the Sun Belt. If the six teams previously mentioned bolt for the AAC,it would leave the conference at only six members.
Louisiana Tech, FIU, MTSU, ODU, UTEP, and WKU would be all that is left. Where does the conference go from there? I'd imagine they could invite NMSU, but beyond that who else would really want to join the conference? I'd imagine JMU is hoping for a Sun Belt invite, and Liberty is hoping for either Sun Belt or AAC. Army is pretty happy as an Independent, and UConn and UMass are out of the geographic area of the remaining teams.
C-USA is not in a good spot moving forward.

[Laker]

Way it sounds is that Marshall and Southern Miss are getting close to signing off on moving to the Sun Belt. If the six teams previously mentioned bolt for the AAC,it would leave the conference at only six members.
Louisiana Tech, FIU, MTSU, ODU, UTEP, and WKU would be all that is left. Where does the conference go from there? I'd imagine they could invite NMSU, but beyond that who else would really want to join the conference? I'd imagine JMU is hoping for a Sun Belt invite, and Liberty is hoping for either Sun Belt or AAC. Army is pretty happy as an Independent, and UConn and UMass are out of the geographic area of the remaining teams.
C-USA is not in a good spot moving forward.

Rumors of MTSU and WKU to the MAC. Not sure if there is even an invitation though.

[JacksFan40]

Rumors of MTSU and WKU to the MAC. Not sure if there is even an invitation though.
Way it sounds is the AAC will bring in all six, official announcement coming pretty quickly.
WKU would be a good fit for the MAC, and MTSU will make it an even number.
I have a feeling C-USA is dead in the water, they’d have to invite multiple FCS teams to make up for all of these losses.

[Laker]

Way it sounds is the AAC will bring in all six, official announcement coming pretty quickly.
WKU would be a good fit for the MAC, and MTSU will make it an even number.
I have a feeling C-USA is dead in the water, they’d have to invite multiple FCS teams to make up for all of these losses.

Yep- now official.

UAB Accepts Invitation to Join the American Athletic Conference - University of Alabama at Birmingham Athletics (uabsports.com) (https://uabsports.com/news/2021/10/21/football-uab-accepts-invitation-to-join-the-american-athletic-conference.aspx)

[tigonian02]

Georgia Southern hires ex USC head coach Clay Helton as their new HC. Will reportedly only make $800k year 1.

[Laker]

Butch Davis is not coming back to FIU. If what he is saying is true- and I have no reason to doubt him- does FIU want to continue playing FBS football- or football at all?

Brett McMurphy@Brett_McMurphy
· 1h
FIU’s Butch Davis told @ActionNetworkHQ he will not return next year. “The administration has been sabotaging the program." FIU not allowed to recruit on road last 2 years, had to use Miss St’s old shoulder pads (because of no $) & uniforms are 9 years old

[bonarae]

Troy fires Chip Lindsey

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/troy-fires-coach-coach-chip-lindsey-during-third-season-after-going-15-19-with-the-trojans/

[Nor Eastern]

Troy fires Chip Lindsey

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/troy-fires-coach-coach-chip-lindsey-during-third-season-after-going-15-19-with-the-trojans/



Very interested to see who the Trojans get for the new coach. In the last several seasons the Sun Belt has scored a lot of bigger named coaches and former coordinators. Terry Bowden, RichRod, Major Applewhite, Clay Helton, Butch Jones, Spavital, Napier all are known commodities.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile, UTSA lost to UNT 45-23, the former may not receive a good bowl game... xcoffeex (just like a bubble team sweating out on Selection Sunday)

[Nor Eastern]

Florida to snatch Louisiana's Napier for the HC slot.

ULL and Appalachian play in the Sun Belt Championship game on ESPN this coming Saturday at 3:30pm.

MTSU and Toletdo accepted a Bahamas Bowl invite. Bahamas Bowl opens bowl season on Dec 17 at Noon.

ECU will be in the Military Bowl on Dec 27

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple fires Rod Carey....

Temple Owls football coach Rod Carey out after going 12-20 over 3 seasons (espn.com) (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32745059/temple-owls-football-coach-rod-carey-going-12-20-3-seasons)

[CHIP72]

Temple fires Rod Carey....

Temple Owls football coach Rod Carey out after going 12-20 over 3 seasons (espn.com) (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32745059/temple-owls-football-coach-rod-carey-going-12-20-3-seasons)

And there was much rejoicing throughout the land (or at least north Philadelphia and my apartment).

[Nor Eastern]

Three of the G5 conferences have ranked participants for this Saturday (MWC, SBC, AAC) with the American having a Ranked vs. Ranked matchup

[bonarae]

Cincy continues its CFP and undefeated dreams alive...

[bonarae]

Cincinnati enters the CFP as the first-ever G5 to get in. They will face the Tide.

[CHIP72]

Temple has hired Texas assistant coach Stan Drayton as their head coach. It will be the 50 year old, northeast Ohio native Drayton's first head coaching job.

That second sentence, along with the fact he hasn't coached anywhere near the Philadelphia area for 20+ years (he was an assistant at Penn in 1995 and at Villanova from 1996 to 1999) sums up why am I NOT enamored with this hire. Ugh. We'll see what happens though.

[bonarae]

Coastal wins its first bowl game.

[Laker]

Coastal wins its first bowl game.

That last three seconds was controversial. The clock should have stopped for the first down even if he didn't get out of bounds.

[JayJ79]

That last three seconds was controversial. The clock should have stopped for the first down even if he didn't get out of bounds.
It did stop, but only for a couple seconds.

The idea of a clock stoppage after gaining a first down is to give time for the chain crew to reset the chains. But since at that point it was 1st-and-goal, the chains aren't used. But I don't know what the official timing rules are in that situation as to how long the ref is supposed to wait until he or she winds the clock.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

App State vs WKU in the Boca Bowl....

These games are awful in terms of atmosphere and meaning. Such a shame ESPN simply uses these teams/bowls as "slot filler" during the holidays....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple has hired Texas assistant coach Stan Drayton as their head coach. It will be the 50 year old, northeast Ohio native Drayton's first head coaching job.

That second sentence, along with the fact he hasn't coached anywhere near the Philadelphia area for 20+ years (he was an assistant at Penn in 1995 and at Villanova from 1996 to 1999) sums up why am I NOT enamored with this hire. Ugh. We'll see what happens though.

The AD wanted "his guy" and that's what he got. Drayton has some ties to PA but that was years ago. He's never been anything more than a positional coach so while he has been impressive in interviews, running a program requires much more than being a "good talker".

IMO, this hire will really dictate the future of Temple football. With the AAC becoming perhaps the 3rd best G5 conference, Temple's lackluster history and rental status with the Linc I could see the program being dropped in the next 10 years if things don't turn around.

[Laker]

I forgot to mention that Chuck Lombardi, the QB for Northern Illinois last night, is the son of former MSU-Mankato volleyball standout Kari Spang-Lombardi. I watched her play and she was as good a player as she was good looking.

[JayJ79]

These games are awful in terms of atmosphere and meaning. Such a shame ESPN simply uses these teams/bowls as "slot filler" during the holidays....
it obviously means something to the schools/players, otherwise they would have turned down the invitation

[Bisonoline]

it obviously means something to the schools/players, otherwise they would have turned down the invitation

It means more practice time and game experience. Not to mention a recruiting positive and national exposure.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Anyone watching Louisiana vs Marshall? A Louisiana player just took out the Herd punt returner in one of the most egregious cheap shots I've ever seen. This could heading towards a brawl by the end....

[JacksFan40]

https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/skedball-weekly-sports-tv-ratings-12-13-12-19-2021.html

BYU-UAB in the Independence Bowl was the most watched CFB game of the weekend at 3.221 million. Celebration Bowl was 3rd at 2.587 million. NDSU-JMU at 8th with 1.145 million, and SDSU-MSU dead last at 795k. So much for the FCS playoffs being “better”. Can’t even beat the LendingTree Bowl.

[JacksFan40]

Former Bison coach Craig Bohl leads Wyoming to 52-38 Famous Idaho Potato Bowl win over Kent State. Bohl and Wyoming have won bowls in 3 out of the last 5 seasons, pretty solid.

[POD Knows]

They said there was 15k at the Frisco Bowl. I doubt there was 5k there

[Bisonoline]

They said there was 15k at the Frisco Bowl. I doubt there was 5k there


https://i.imgur.com/Vnjw7Ht.gif

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

They said there was 15k at the Frisco Bowl. I doubt there was 5k there

And that was with North Texas who hails from Denton, about 25 miles away. What a joke....

What makes it worse is the fact North Texas is heading to the AAC....

[bonarae]

Hawaii and the Hawaii Bowl are no more.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/hawaii-bowl-canceled-less-than-24-hours-before-game-after-warriors-say-they-wont-play-due-to-covid-19-issues/

[FUBeAR]

Hawaii and the Hawaii Bowl are no more.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/hawaii-bowl-canceled-less-than-24-hours-before-game-after-warriors-say-they-wont-play-due-to-covid-19-issues/

This could start a new trend for FBS Bowl “Games”…get the Teams & Fans there to spend their money, then DON’T play a meaningless Football game that NO ONE cares about.

https://twitter.com/hawaiibowl/status/1474220043441369088

It’s really a better model.

[JacksFan40]

This could start a new trend for FBS Bowl “Games”…get the Teams & Fans there to spend their money, then DON’T play a meaningless Football game that NO ONE cares about.

https://twitter.com/hawaiibowl/status/1474220043441369088

It’s really a better model.
Considering how many teams lined up to take TAMU’s spot in the Gator Bowl, I wouldn’t say they’re meaningless to the players and coaches.

[FUBeAR]

Considering how many teams lined up to take TAMU’s spot in the Gator Bowl, I wouldn’t say they’re meaningless to the players and coaches.
They’re meaningless to the Players and Coaches.

[JacksFan40]

They’re meaningless to the Players and Coaches.
Say that to Florida and UCF after the fight they got into after the game last night. Say that to Army and Missouri who played their hearts out and went down to the wire. Say that to NIU and Coastal Carolina who played in an absolute barn burner. The bowl games matter to 97% of the players, and all of the coaches. The FBS teams could say the FCS playoffs and championship is meaningless, are they correct?

[FUBeAR]

Say that to Florida and UCF after the fight they got into after the game last night. Say that to Army and Missouri who played their hearts out and went down to the wire. Say that to NIU and Coastal Carolina who played in an absolute barn burner. The bowl games matter to 97% of the players, and all of the coaches. The FBS teams could say the FCS playoffs and championship is meaningless, are they correct?
Yeah - FUBeAR saw how upset NIU’s Coach was for about 5 seconds after this happened…

https://www.shawlocal.com/daily-chronicle/niu-sports/2021/12/18/c-usa-admits-to-officiating-mistake-at-end-of-niu-bowl-loss/

…then he was laughing, joking, and smiling…because the outcome of the game, to him & his Players was…meaningless.

Do you think any FCS Head Coach who lost a Playoff Game like this would be laughing, joking, and smiling 5 seconds later? (Correct Answer Hint: NFW!!!)

Can’t find vid of the HC (beyond his initial, very short-lived objection), which I saw live, but the NIU Player at :25 of this clip clearly shows just how heartbroken he was at the outcome…

https://twitter.com/betus_collegefb/status/1472038476203925505

[JacksFan40]

Georgia State wins the Camellia Bowl 51-20 over Ball State. Back to back bowl wins for the Panthers and best season in school history at 8-5, looks like Shawn Elliot has them trending upwards.

[Laker]

Central Michigan, which was already in Tucson, has been released from Arizona Bowl & will play Washington State in Sun Bowl at noon ET Friday in El Paso sources told @ActionNetworkHQ (https://twitter.com/ActionNetworkHQ)
. Arizona is 4th bowl canceled because of COVID issues along w/Hawaii, Fenway & Military

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Central Michigan, which was already in Tucson, has been released from Arizona Bowl & will play Washington State in Sun Bowl at noon ET Friday in El Paso sources told @ActionNetworkHQ (https://twitter.com/ActionNetworkHQ)
. Arizona is 4th bowl canceled because of COVID issues along w/Hawaii, Fenway & Military

I posted on the Temple board yesterday there was the potential that something could happen due to CBS's power over the Sun Bowl and the MWC.

Personally, I believe there's more to this than meets the eye. CBS forced Barstools hand with money (bought them out), gave Boise State the chance to play, they said I rather just take some $$$ and go home (they're a MWC team), CMU fills the spot to keep the Sun Bowl (a bowl with history) afloat.

[Laker]

247Sports Transfer Portal@247SportsPortal

Hawaii freshman DB Michael Graham has entered the transfer portal. Graham is the son of Hawaii HC Todd Graham.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Georgia State wins the Camellia Bowl 51-20 over Ball State. Back to back bowl wins for the Panthers and best season in school history at 8-5, looks like Shawn Elliot has them trending upwards.


Yet, they're still ducking Lambuth.....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Alabama 7 Cincinnati 0 early 1Q

The Tide physically took it to the Bearcats on their first possession of the game. That's not a good sign for those hoping for a competitive game....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Tide rolling 17-3 late in the first half and they've been more dominant than the score has reflected. Cincinnati simply not at their level physically....

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Why has Liberty football been canceling future games left and right? xconfusedx xoopsx

[walliver]

Meanwhile...

Why has Liberty football been canceling future games left and right? xconfusedx xoopsx

Don't they have to free up spots for C-USA games?

[Laker]

Don't they have to free up spots for C-USA games?

I think that would be the logical explanation.

[Laker]

Good riddance.

Graham resigns as UH head football coach; the search for a new head coach begins immediatelyhttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f517.png http://ow.ly/UiMA50HvcG4

[bonarae]

Will Graham end up in a small (D-II/D-III/NAIA) school after all this?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/hawaii-coach-todd-graham-resigns-amid-claims-of-verbal-abuse-by-players-cites-family-and-health-reasons/

[JacksFan40]

JMU won their first game as an FBS program, throttling Middle Tennessee 44-7. I think JMU will be pretty good at the FBS level, maybe they can replicate App State’s success.

[Chalupa Batman]

JMU won their first game as an FBS program, throttling Middle Tennessee 44-7. I think JMU will be pretty good at the FBS level, maybe they can replicate App State’s success.

I’d be surprised if they don’t. They’re in a talent rich area, have good facilities, and the athletic department is committed to football.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Epic week for the Sun Belt.

[bonarae]

App does it again! They took down aTm...

[FUBeAR]

SoCon Heritage Teams had a nice Saturday…

Marshall > Notre Dame
Appy > Texas A&M
GaSou > Nebraska

[bonarae]

JMU is in the AP poll for the first time as an FBS...

[bonarae]

Postponed due to a tragedy involving one of the teams' players... :(

https://fbschedules.com/san-jose-state-new-mexico-state-football-game-on-saturday-postponed/

[bonarae]

One hundred and forty points in a modern regulation game?! xeekx

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2022-11-05/smu-houston-breaks-fbs-points-record-saturday-night-shootout?utm_campaign=trending