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maine612
November 15th, 2018, 03:46 PM
https://herosports.com/fcs/football-mailbag-maine-playoffs-kennesaw-jsu-bzbz

Good look into possible CAA seeds. Let's go Maine!

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HensRock
November 15th, 2018, 09:53 PM
A little easier read...

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29497&stc=1

X = Does not Matter

* All Ties that involve Maine, Stony and Towson must be resolved by Sagarin ELO_CHESS rating.
1. This occurs if Elon, Towson, and Stony Brook all win.
2. The Sagarin tiebreaker will also include Delaware if they also beat Villanova.

Gangtackle11
November 19th, 2018, 10:07 AM
Offensive Player of the Week:
1- Zach Bednarczyk QB Villanova
2 - JaJuan Lawson QB Rhode Island
3- Tom Flacco QB Towson
Jajuan Lawson QB Rhode Island
4- Jordan Gowins RB Stony Brook
5- Tom Flacco QB Towson
6- Malcolm Summers RB Elon
7- Donald Liotine RB Stony Brook
8- Tom Flacco QB Towson
9- Pat Kehoe QB Delaware
10- Jaylen Thomas RB Elon
11- Ben DiNucci QB JMU
12- Aaron Forbes RB Villanova & Cardon Johnson RB JMU

Defensive Player of the Week:
1- Sterling Sheffield LB Maine & Justin Hogan LB Rhode Island
2- McAllister Ingram LB Elon
3- Shayne Lawless LB Stony Brook
4- Jimmy Moreland CB JMU
5- Marcus Willoughby DE Elon
6 - Deshawn Stevens LB Maine
7 - Troy Reeder LB Delaware
8- Troy Reeder LB Delaware
9- Dmitri Holloway LB JMU
10- Warren Messer LB Elon
11- Isaiah Laster DB W&M & Robert Hayward DE Towson
12- Maurice Jackson DE Richmond

Special Teams Player of the Week:
1- Aidan O’Neill K Towson
2- D’Angelo Amos PR JMU
3- Dejon Brissett KR Richmond
4- Casey Williams DL Stony Brook
5- Ahmere Dorsey KR/PR Rhode Island
6- Shane Simpson KR Towson & Kenny Doak K Maine
7- D’Angelo Amos PR James Madison
8- Nasir Adderley KR Towson
9- Tyler Gray K JMU
10- Drew Kresge PK Villanova
11- Aidan O’Neill PK Towson
12- Earnest Edwards KR Maine

Rookie of the Week:
1- Dev Holmes WR UAlbany
2- Ramon Jefferson RB Maine
3- Dev Holmes WR UAlbany
4- Dev Holmes WR UAlbany
5- Kyndel Dean WR JMU
6- Zack Munson LB Elon
7- Devon Young WR Maine
8- Jaylan Thomas RB Elon
9- Carlos Washington RB UNH
10- Christian Benford DB Villanova & Ramone Jefferson RB Maine
11- Carlos Washington RB UNH
12- Ramone Jefferson RB Maine

FBS Results:
Virginia 42 Richmond 13
Pitt 33 Albany 7
NC State 24 JMU 13
Villanova 19 Temple 17
AirForce 38 Stony Brook 0
South Florida 34 Elon 14
Wake Forest 51 Towson 20
Virginia Tech 62 W&M 17
Maine 31 Western Kentucky 28
Colorado 45 UNH 14
UConn 56 URI 49
Central Michigan 17 Maine 5

2-10 vs. FBS


OOC FCS Results:
W&M 14 Bucknell 7
Towson 36 Morgan State 10
Villanova 31 Lehigh 9
Delaware 37 Lafayette 0
JMU 17 Norfolk State 0
Elon 45 Furman 7
Richmond 52 Fordham 7
Stony Brook 50 Bryant 21
Colgate 10 UNH 3
Richmond 35 St.Francis Pa. 27
JMU 73 Robert Morris 7
Albany 30 Morgan State 27
Stony Brook 28 Fordham 6
Delaware 27 Cornell 10
Villanova 49 Bucknell 7
NDSU 38 Delaware 10
Elon 31 Charleston Southern 22
Albany 35 St.Francis Pa. 28
Rhode Island 23 Harvard 16
Towson 44 The Citadel 27
Colgate 23 W&M 0
Yale 35 Maine 14
UNH 28 Holy Cross 0
Rhode Island 48 Brown 0

20-4 vs. OOC opponents


CAA Games:
Rhode Island 21 Delaware 19
Maine 35 UNH 7
Rhode Island 45 Albany 26
Towson 45 Villanova 35
JMU 51 W&M 0
Stony Brook 36 Richmond 10
Stony Brook 29 Villanova 27
JMU 63 Richmond 10
Elon 30 UNH 9
Towson 52 Stony Brook 28
Maine 13 Villanova 10
Elon 27 JMU 24
Delaware 43 Richmond 28
W&M 25 Albany 22
JMU 37 Villanova 0
Delaware 28 Elon 16
Richmond 27 Albany 24
Towson 29 W&M 13
Maine 38 Rhode Island 36
Elon 38 Richmond 28
Delaware 38 UNH 14
W&M 27 Maine 20
Towson 56 Albany 28
Stony Brook 52 Rhode Island 14
UNH 34 Villanova 0
Rhode Island 21 W&M 10
Maine 28 Albany 9
JMU 13 Stony Brook 10
Delaware 40 Towson 36
UNH 35 JMU 24
Elon 24 Rhode Island 21
Villanova 45 Richmond 21
Delaware 21 Albany 16
Maine 35 Towson 28
JMU 48 Rhode Island 31
W&M 24 Villanova 17
Towson 41 Elon 10
Maine 28 Richmond 9
Stony Brook 17 Delaware 3
UNH 24 Albany 10
Villanova 42 Delaware 21
Richmond 10 W&M 6
Rhode Island 24 UNH 21
Maine 27 Elon 26
JMU 38 Towson 17
Albany 25 Stony Brook 23

PLAYOFFS:
Wofford 19 Elon 7
SEMO 28 Stony Brook 14
Duquesne 31 Towson 10
JMU 20 Delaware 6

KPSUL
November 19th, 2018, 08:17 PM
Gangtackle, Great job keeping track of all this CAA data for us this season. Thanks!

Gangtackle11
November 20th, 2018, 06:28 AM
Gangtackle, Great job keeping track of all this CAA data for us this season. Thanks!

My pleasure. See ya in New Hampshire next season. xpeacex

KPSUL
November 24th, 2018, 09:07 AM
Good luck to the five CAA teams playing today and all their AGS fans. Hope to see four of them join Maine in the 2ns round next week!

Gangtackle11
November 24th, 2018, 09:18 AM
Good luck to the five CAA teams playing today and all their AGS fans. Hope to see four of them join Maine in the 2ns round next week!

That would be awesome!!! Go CAA!! xnodxxpeacex

MacThor
November 24th, 2018, 02:06 PM
Good luck to the five CAA teams playing today and all their AGS fans. Hope to see four of them join Maine in the 2ns round next week!

I predict at least one will advance.

KPSUL
November 24th, 2018, 05:41 PM
I predict at least one will advance.

Excellent prediction! Anyone know why Elon, Stony Brook and and Towson decided not to play in the 2nd half? Each team led after 2 quarters, but collectively they were outscored 69-0 in the 2nd half.

MR. CHICKEN
November 24th, 2018, 05:51 PM
Excellent prediction! Anyone know why Elon, Stony Brook and and Towson decided not to play in the 2nd half? Each team led after 2 quarters, but collectively they were outscored 69-0 in the 2nd half.

......WHERE WAS MARTY.........WE COODAH USED.....DUH WILDCATS....TA-DAY............BRAWK!

KPSUL
November 24th, 2018, 06:28 PM
......WHERE WAS MARTY.........WE COODAH USED.....DUH WILDCATS....TA-DAY............BRAWK!


At least the Delaware D put up a good fight!

Even Marty couldn't get more than 3 CAA teams in the dance next season after today's performance!

RootinFerDukes
November 26th, 2018, 01:00 PM
Thanks for nothing CAA. Elon's loss, especially missing QB1 and RB1, I understand. No excuse for TU or SB though. Almost bad enough to drop you out of the rankings except that there's no one better to take your spot in the rankings haha.

maine612
November 26th, 2018, 01:47 PM
Really need Maine to step up here. A solid victory versus JSU would support the seed. If Maine and JMU advance, you could argue that 2 CAA teams in the quarters would reflect an acceptable year for the conference.

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Henny
November 27th, 2018, 01:46 PM
UD Offensive coordinator Matt Simon was terminated today-

Shocker!

caribbeanhen
November 27th, 2018, 08:16 PM
UD Offensive coordinator Matt Simon was terminated today-

Shocker!

totally shocking Henny, how could this be true?

KPSUL
November 27th, 2018, 09:49 PM
totally shocking Henny, how could this be true?

Was he a left over from the Brock staff, or did Rocco bring him in ?

Gangtackle11
November 27th, 2018, 09:53 PM
UD Offensive coordinator Matt Simon was terminated today-

Shocker!

Good. You can have our OC Sam V. (Pride of Delaware) & throw -in our DC Joe T. to coach his boy. Won’t miss either!! xpeacex

caribbeanhen
November 28th, 2018, 07:40 AM
Was he a left over from the Brock staff, or did Rocco bring him in ?

Rocco brought him in, but he sure fit the Brock model......

No thank you GT.... We want a younger hire, Simon was 62 years old, we someone who can relate a bit with the youngsters, creative and who will break it down and start from scratch...... a serious infusion of talent is a must as well.

Kade Bell would be one guy on my radar.....

centraljerseycat
November 28th, 2018, 08:31 AM
Good. You can have our OC Sam V. (Pride of Delaware) & throw -in our DC Joe T. to coach his boy. Won’t miss either!! xpeacex

Sadly Villanova almost never fires coaches. You can include the Special Teams Coordinator to your list also. Didn't the Cats lead FCS in missed field goals under 40 yards?

Henny
November 28th, 2018, 08:52 AM
Venuto would be a hell of a lot better than what we've had!

One thing is for sure, Rocco won't be making any unilateral decisions this time. Too many people who kick in major $ (Gannon, Flacco, Brunner and maybe Nagy) will be involved this time.

Gangtackle11
November 28th, 2018, 09:29 AM
Sadly Villanova almost never fires coaches. You can include the Special Teams Coordinator to your list also. Didn't the Cats lead FCS in missed field goals under 40 yards?

Yes. They blame their 5-6 records on injuries instead. Loss of a lot of offense (QB, RB, TE, 3 OL) will have Nova looking at another 5-6 type season if status quo is the answer. Thank god they replaced Temple with Merrimack. See them in bottom 3rd of CAA again. Smh. xpeacex

caribbeanhen
November 28th, 2018, 09:39 AM
Venuto would be a hell of a lot better than what we've had!

One thing is for sure, Rocco won't be making any unilateral decisions this time. Too many people who kick in major $ (Gannon, Flacco, Brunner and maybe Nagy) will be involved this time.

Henny, if Rocco cannot be trusted to hire a competent OC maybe big $$$ should buy out his contract and send him on his way ...... No tears from me if that happened, not holding my breath though

FUBeAR
November 28th, 2018, 11:08 AM
Kade Bell would be one guy on my radar.....So...you want to turn your Offense over to...

...an individual who is in his 3rd year of Coaching at the D2 level, an individual who is listed on his Team’s OFFICIAL website as a Graduate Assistant QB Coach, but claims to be VSU’s OC on his Twitter page; an individual who has never spent 1 second as a Player or Coach at the college level without his Dad being his “boss;” an individual that, apparently, transferred to 3 or 4 different HS’s as a prep Player (his Dad was NOT his HS Coach at any of those stops - maybe those transfers tell us something).

Young man may become the next Nick Saban and I have nothing against him...don’t know him; enjoyed watching him play though...but if I’m a HC or an AD, he’s gonna have to successfully perform for a few years in a true OC role at a lower or equivalent level without his Dad (known to be a strong Offensive Coach) supervising him before I, potentially, put my job in his hands or I MIGHT hire him as a QB Coach and give him the opportunity to work his way up to the OC job.

caribbeanhen
November 28th, 2018, 01:51 PM
So...you want to turn your Offense over to...

...an individual who is in his 3rd year of Coaching at the D2 level, an individual who is listed on his Team’s OFFICIAL website as a Graduate Assistant QB Coach, but claims to be VSU’s OC on his Twitter page; an individual who has never spent 1 second as a Player or Coach at the college level without his Dad being his “boss;” an individual that, apparently, transferred to 3 or 4 different HS’s as a prep Player (his Dad was NOT his HS Coach at any of those stops - maybe those transfers tell us something).

Young man may become the next Nick Saban and I have nothing against him...don’t know him; enjoyed watching him play though...but if I’m a HC or an AD, he’s gonna have to successfully perform for a few years in a true OC role at a lower or equivalent level without his Dad (known to be a strong Offensive Coach) supervising him before I, potentially, put my job in his hands or I MIGHT hire him as a QB Coach and give him the opportunity to work his way up to the OC job.

well in fariness I said Bell would be on my radar, not necessarily hired, for basically the reasons you mention

He does need to get out of Papa Bell shawdow and I bet he get's a shot somewhere, might as well be Delaware and I like bringing him in as a QB coach
just to get him

Delaware used to recruit Jacksonville when KC was the coach so there is a connection

RootinFerDukes
December 5th, 2018, 01:18 PM
The entire's CAA's AGS message board reputation lies on the shoulders of the Black Bears. No pressure.

UNHWildcat18
December 5th, 2018, 02:44 PM
The entire's CAA's AGS message board reputation lies on the shoulders of the Black Bears. No pressure.

I think Maine is going to win. Better defense, I don't think maine will turn it over 4 times like SEMO did. Close game but maine eeks out a win

caribbeanhen
December 5th, 2018, 03:15 PM
The entire's CAA's AGS message board reputation lies on the shoulders of the Black Bears. No pressure.

xlolx

good to see you back after the break up Dukie....... can't expect a good coach to hang around for ever when FBS comes knocking at the door, it's not like it's the Postman out there on the stoop.....

KPSUL
December 5th, 2018, 03:22 PM
The CAA with 6 team in was not the conference favored most by the playoff selection process; I'd take 4 teams, all getting a home first game, and 3 seeded in the top 8, including #2 and #3. I'm not apologizing or conceding relative conference strength based on what happened in this playoff season. It was the competitiveness of the conference that resulted in only one CAA team just barely getting a seed at 7th. So far in the playoffs all the seeded teams, and 15 out of 16 home teams have won. Our teams should have won a game or two more at this juncture, but they were collectively traveling a rough road compared to the the Big Sky's paved highway to the 2nd round and Quarterfinals. The CAA team that clearly underachieved was Towson, and I'd have to concede that all the public distraction for JMU the week prior to the Colgate game could easily have contributed to a 3 point loss on the road.

RootinFerDukes
December 5th, 2018, 03:27 PM
xlolx

good to see you back after the break up Dukie....... can't expect a good coach to hang around for ever when FBS comes knocking at the door, it's not like it's the Postman out there on the stoop.....

Good coach? Who? That ****'s in the past buddy.

Ya'll CAA folks better hold onto your coaches. Some of them may have already gotten a phone call. We'll see how this shakes out.

RootinFerDukes
December 5th, 2018, 03:29 PM
The CAA with 6 team in was not the conference favored most by the playoff selection process; I'd take 4 teams, all getting a home first game, and 3 seeded in the top 8, including #2 and #3. I'm not apologizing or conceding relative conference strength based on what happened in this playoff season. It was the competitiveness of the conference that resulted in only one CAA team just barely getting a seed at 7th. So far in the playoffs all the seeded teams, and 15 out of 16 home teams have won. Our teams should have won a game or two more at this juncture, but they were collectively traveling a rough road compared to the the Big Sky's paved highway to the 2nd round and Quarterfinals. The CAA team that clearly underachieved was Towson, and I'd have to concede that all the public distraction for JMU the week prior to the Colgate game could easily have contributed to a 3 point loss on the road.

To think that some idiots on the internet are trying to argue that home field DOESN'T make a difference in the playoffs. The proof is in the pudding there. xcoffeex

I think a combination of 5 INTs and a coach who clearly didn't want to win based on multiple terrible in-game coaching decisions contributed to the loss.

KPSUL
December 5th, 2018, 04:17 PM
To think that some idiots on the internet are trying to argue that home field DOESN'T make a difference in the playoffs. The proof is in the pudding there. xcoffeex

I think a combination of 5 INTs and a coach who clearly didn't want to win based on multiple terrible in-game coaching decisions contributed to the loss.

I noticed quite a change in Coach Houston's confidence and composure at press conferences the end of this season - particularly compared to his first two years. Something was going on with him. For his first two seasons he said all the right things, and had the ability to get all the best out of his team while making it seem natural, even easy. This year the magic touch seemed to wane a bit - I think he realized he needed to make the jump to FBS and may have been too anxious to make it happen. ECU is going too be a lot tougher. He is not going to immediately jump over UCF, USF, Memphis and Temple during his first two seasons and win a conference championship. At JMU he inherited a playoff team that already had a lot a talent, and his confidence, leadership and skill as a communicator provided the missing element. Right guy at the right time and place - that doesn't happen all that frequently, in football or anywhere else.

caribbeanhen
December 5th, 2018, 04:30 PM
Good coach? Who? That ****'s in the past buddy.

Ya'll CAA folks better hold onto your coaches. Some of them may have already gotten a phone call. We'll see how this shakes out.

Is Houston going to cut a check for Brian Schor, that QB put JMU over the top......Yea I know you had tons of talent but without Schor I dont know if you beat North Dakota State in 2016

as far as other CAA coaches, I guess you are referring to Maine and Elon......

RootinFerDukes
December 5th, 2018, 04:38 PM
Is Houston going to cut a check for Brian Schor, that QB put JMU over the top......Yea I know you had tons of talent but without Schor I dont know if you beat North Dakota State in 2016

as far as other CAA coaches, I guess you are referring to Maine and Elon......

We have our eye on Rocco! Just kidding... I hope not. That'd be awful.

Yeah... DiNucci is no Schor. That's for damn Schor.

RootinFerDukes
December 5th, 2018, 04:41 PM
I noticed quite a change in Coach Houston's confidence and composure at press conferences the end of this season - particularly compared to his first two years. Something was going on with him. For his first two seasons he said all the right things, and had the ability to get all the best out of his team while making it seem natural, even easy. This year the magic touch seemed to wane a bit - I think he realized he needed to make the jump to FBS and may have been too anxious to make it happen. ECU is going too be a lot tougher. He is not going to immediately jump over UCF, USF, Memphis and Temple during his first two seasons and win a conference championship. At JMU he inherited a playoff team that already had a lot a talent, and his confidence, leadership and skill as a communicator provided the missing element. Right guy at the right time and place - that doesn't happen all that frequently, in football or anywhere else.

The pressure will be real at ECU. It's win quick or get the heck out. You're right. The AAC already has some established powers too that I don't see ECU suddenly beating them in a single season.

If he does, he really is a magical coach. I wouldn't bet your house on him being at ECU by the 2024 season. He's gone one way or the other.

CID1990
December 5th, 2018, 06:14 PM
The pressure will be real at ECU. It's win quick or get the heck out. You're right. The AAC already has some established powers too that I don't see ECU suddenly beating them in a single season.

If he does, he really is a magical coach. I wouldn't bet your house on him being at ECU by the 2024 season. He's gone one way or the other.

Win quick or get out has never been part of the football coaching landscape at ECU

The job will be his as long as he wants it - and it won't be a Herculean task to win there, it has been done before

But you're right - he probably won't be there much beyond 2024... that's right around the time Mack Brown will be retiring


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MacThor
December 5th, 2018, 08:40 PM
Henny, if Rocco cannot be trusted to hire a competent OC maybe big $$$ should buy out his contract and send him on his way ...... No tears from me if that happened, not holding my breath though

Delaware's next OC will be Rocco's fifth in six seasons.

caribbeanhen
December 5th, 2018, 08:44 PM
Delaware's next OC will be Rocco's fifth in six seasons.

I didn't know that, why was he going thru so many at Richmond?

Henny
December 5th, 2018, 10:05 PM
Hiring the right O coordinator this time is critical for Danny Rocco and his time here in Newark. Its no secret he is a defensive coach and needs a very strong, dynamic guy to run the O. Hiring Matt Simon was just a terrible decision and we're hoping this time it's a good choice for everyone involved including Coach Rocco. He's getting incredible support from alumni and the administration.

ncspiderfan
December 5th, 2018, 11:10 PM
I didn't know that, why was he going thru so many at Richmond?
One went to coach at Clemson, I think he went there.
One became HC at Lafayette I believe
Those two were while at Richmond and I do not remember the rest.

32counter
December 6th, 2018, 12:10 AM
One went to coach at Clemson, I think he went there.
One became HC at Lafayette I believe
Those two were while at Richmond and I do not remember the rest.

Charlie Fisher became HC at West Illinois and gave Rocco son a job.Charlie is now WR coach Arizona State.

caribbeanhen
December 6th, 2018, 04:42 AM
One went to coach at Clemson, I think he went there.
One became HC at Lafayette I believe
Those two were while at Richmond and I do not remember the rest.

right, I had forgotten the Laffy coach came from Richmond, everybody had alot of good things to say about him but it's been a slow go up there

RootinFerDukes
December 6th, 2018, 07:24 AM
Win quick or get out has never been part of the football coaching landscape at ECU

The job will be his as long as he wants it - and it won't be a Herculean task to win there, it has been done before

But you're right - he probably won't be there much beyond 2024... that's right around the time Mack Brown will be retiring


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Did you miss that they let Ruffin McNeil go because he didn’t win enough and then let Scottie Montgomery go after only 3 seasons?

Mike Houston has a 5 year leash to get consistently north of 8 wins or he’s going to be fired. He has to pray a P5 offers before then. There’s some risk involved on his end.

UNHWildcat18
December 6th, 2018, 07:37 AM
To think that some idiots on the internet are trying to argue that home field DOESN'T make a difference in the playoffs. The proof is in the pudding there. xcoffeex

I think a combination of 5 INTs and a coach who clearly didn't want to win based on multiple terrible in-game coaching decisions contributed to the loss.

Yeah JMU played its worst possible game and lost by 3 at the very end.....
Towson not showing up for the second half is a disgrace and they deserved to lose.
SBU was up 14-0 in a game where they looked way better than SEMO, they had 404 yards to 240, dominated TOP, they had THREE TURNOVERS in the third that gave up 21 points off short field. the other was a punt that went out at the SBU 40.... SBU beats them 9-10 times.
Elon.... what lost to the best team in the soconn in a close game without a handful of starters..... no problem with their loss.


The whole is way overrated CAA is a bit over the top. 2/3 teams implode with 4/5 turnovers in their worst games of the season. Towson is the only non excusable one.
I think overall we don't have a NC worthy team, still better than most of the field 9/10 times

RootinFerDukes
December 6th, 2018, 08:14 AM
I think overall we don't have a NC worthy team, still better than most of the field 9/10 times

Technically any non-MVFC conference doesn't have a NC worthy team as long as the Bison just continue to dominate the field for this entire decade.

hoidOfYolen
December 6th, 2018, 11:07 AM
Technically any non-MVFC conference doesn't have a NC worthy team as long as the Bison just continue to dominate the field for this entire decade.

I read that as worth of GOING to the NC, not just winning it.

IBleedYellow
December 6th, 2018, 11:24 AM
Is Houston going to cut a check for Brian Schor, that QB put JMU over the top......Yea I know you had tons of talent but without Schor I dont know if you beat North Dakota State in 2016

as far as other CAA coaches, I guess you are referring to Maine and Elon......

JMU doesn't beat NDSU in 2016 without Abdullah. That was the difference maker, IMO.

RootinFerDukes
December 6th, 2018, 11:38 AM
JMU doesn't beat NDSU in 2016 without Abdullah. That was the difference maker, IMO.

Bryan Schor and our offensive line too. The offense was the difference.

2017 defense was actually better but offense was worse. O line was young and injured. Receivers dropped too many passes.

caribbeanhen
December 6th, 2018, 06:28 PM
JMU doesn't beat NDSU in 2016 without Abdullah. That was the difference maker, IMO.

He was outstanding but they might of been able to find another great RB, But you take Schor away and you might of be looking at 10 in a row

ncspiderfan
December 6th, 2018, 06:49 PM
Did you miss that they let Ruffin McNeil go because he didn’t win enough and then let Scottie Montgomery go after only 3 seasons?

Mike Houston has a 5 year leash to get consistently north of 8 wins or he’s going to be fired. He has to pray a P5 offers before then. There’s some risk involved on his end.
Good point IMO about McNeil, if I had to bet, it would be the boosters run the football team at ECU and they ran McNeil off and got what they deserved the last several years.

Houston will have to turn it fast or he will face the same, though I suspect he might be able to turn it for them.

jmu007
December 6th, 2018, 07:25 PM
JMU doesn't beat NDSU in 2016 without Abdullah. That was the difference maker, IMO.

I agree with this take. I think its underestimated just how good he was sometimes by a lot of jmu fans.

IBleedYellow
December 6th, 2018, 09:58 PM
Bryan Schor and our offensive line too. The offense was the difference.

2017 defense was actually better but offense was worse. O line was young and injured. Receivers dropped too many passes.Nah.

NDSU had a LB core that could stop Abdullah in the title game. Look how that ended up.

Bryan Schor wasn't the difference maker. Abdullah took the pressure off of him.

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UNHWildcat18
December 7th, 2018, 07:35 AM
I read that as worth of GOING to the NC, not just winning it.

Yeah that was what I meant, should have been clearer.

Derby City Duke
December 15th, 2018, 12:01 AM
GT11, has Trisciani ever coached a 4-man front or is beholden to the 3-man DL? Asking in case he comes to JMU with Cignetti. Our defense is absolutely stacked for next year -- would hate for them to have to adjust to a new system...

Gangtackle11
December 15th, 2018, 06:56 AM
GT11, has Trisciani ever coached a 4-man front or is beholden to the 3-man DL? Asking in case he comes to JMU with Cignetti. Our defense is absolutely stacked for next year -- would hate for them to have to adjust to a new system...

He ran 4-man fronts prior to coming to Nova. He worked under DC Billy Crocker who introduced the 30 defense to Nova. Trisch is a solid coach & better person. xpeacex

MR. CHICKEN
December 15th, 2018, 08:12 AM
........DIS TIME.....NEXT YEAR........DESOLATION BLVD...(MAINLINE)........WILL BE GOIN'....TA MARKET......xwavex......BRAWK!

Gangtackle11
December 15th, 2018, 08:51 AM
........DIS TIME.....NEXT YEAR........DESOLATION BLVD...(MAINLINE)........WILL BE GOIN'....TA MARKET......xwavex......BRAWK!

AFTA......THE 8TH STRAIGHT WIN OVAH DA SO-CALLED FOOTBALL SKOOL.....BRRR-ROCCO!!xpeacex

Derby City Duke
December 16th, 2018, 01:23 AM
He ran 4-man fronts prior to coming to Nova. He worked under DC Billy Crocker who introduced the 30 defense to Nova. Trisch is a solid coach & better person. xpeacex

Understand Cignetti has hired 5 assistants, his S&C coach and his director of football ops; none have been named, but he did say he was NOT bringing his whole staff with him from Elon -- glad to see he didn't strip the cupboard bare down in N.C.

KPSUL
December 16th, 2018, 09:01 AM
Understand Cignetti has hired 5 assistants, his S&C coach and his director of football ops; none have been named, but he did say he was NOT bringing his whole staff with him from Elon -- glad to see he didn't strip the cupboard bare down in N.C.

I fully understand that you are pleased with Cignetti, probably the best thing that could happen short of Houston staying. But it's pointless to try to paint a happy face on this for Elon. Cignetti will bring the assistants to JMU who want to leave and that he thinks will help him win. My guess is that will be most of them. There may be some who want to stay at Elon for personal reasons, but that is probably more risky then moving with Cignetti - the new Elon HC may arrive with much of his own staff pre-selected. It also presents Cignetti with the chance to get rid of some deadwood, if he thinks he has any. It's not the wrong thing to do, he owes loyalty to the coaches and staff who did a great job for him in the past.

Derby City Duke
December 16th, 2018, 12:30 PM
I fully understand that you are pleased with Cignetti, probably the best thing that could happen short of Houston staying. But it's pointless to try to paint a happy face on this for Elon. Cignetti will bring the assistants to JMU who want to leave and that he thinks will help him win. My guess is that will be most of them. There may be some who want to stay at Elon for personal reasons, but that is probably more risky then moving with Cignetti - the new Elon HC may arrive with much of his own staff pre-selected. It also presents Cignetti with the chance to get rid of some deadwood, if he thinks he has any. It's not the wrong thing to do, he owes loyalty to the coaches and staff who did a great job for him in the past.

I was thinking about it from the standpoint of more Elon coaches left, the more folks available to hold the recruiting class together as much as possible. With signing day on Wednesday, Elon is really hard-pressed to name a new HC. It's up to the staff left to get to those kids and keep them coming to EU.

On the down-side, if EU doesn't announce a hire this weekend, the new coach may be stuck with a recruiing class that may not align with his vision.

Throw on top of this the dead period and EU is in a big pickle if they don't promote from within.

KPSUL
December 16th, 2018, 01:04 PM
I was thinking about it from the standpoint of more Elon coaches left, the more folks available to hold the recruiting class together as much as possible. With signing day on Wednesday, Elon is really hard-pressed to name a new HC. It's up to the staff left to get to those kids and keep them coming to EU.

On the down-side, if EU doesn't announce a hire this weekend, the new coach may be stuck with a recruiing class that may not align with his vision.

Throw on top of this the dead period and EU is in a big pickle if they don't promote from within.

No question it would be beneficial short term if some assistant coaches were there through the early singing period to have some continuity until someone else is hired to manage recruiting. I think one thing Elon has going for them is that they play a balanced offense so if they can retain their commits they will likely fit in what ever scheme comes next. They also have a lot of talent on that team, so it won't be like starting at zero in player development.

RootinFerDukes
December 16th, 2018, 01:13 PM
AFTA......THE 8TH STRAIGHT WIN OVAH DA SO-CALLED FOOTBALL SKOOL.....BRRR-ROCCO!!xpeacex

Death. Taxes. Wins over the dirty birds.

hoidOfYolen
December 16th, 2018, 08:36 PM
I really hope Trisciani and Folmer stay at EU. Our offense is balanced and getting Cheek back at QB next year will give us a much needed boost in potential. Folmer seems to gel well with Cheek's offense and we need that synergy to have any chance against JMU next season. Our defense has always been good and Trisciani is a big part of that. I wouldn't hate the idea of Trisciani being HC to be honest. I just really don't want our coaching staff to be decimated by this move.

Gangtackle11
December 16th, 2018, 09:42 PM
I really hope Trisciani and Folmer stay at EU. Our offense is balanced and getting Cheek back at QB next year will give us a much needed boost in potential. Folmer seems to gel well with Cheek's offense and we need that synergy to have any chance against JMU next season. Our defense has always been good and Trisciani is a big part of that. I wouldn't hate the idea of Trisciani being HC to be honest. I just really don't want our coaching staff to be decimated by this move.

Trisch is solid. He left for Elon a week before our DC Billy Crocker took the UConn DC job (that has been a train wreck). Timing is everything because I’m pretty sure he would have been offered the Nova DC job before our current guy. We’ve been very average defensively since Crocker & Trisch left.

My sources tell me he’s hoping for the Lehigh HC job, but I’m sure the Elon HC job will be hard to turn down if offered. xpeacex

Gangtackle11
December 17th, 2018, 07:56 AM
Elon official announcement of new head coach set for 1pm today. Phoenix fans seem to think it’s Coach Trisciani. xpeacex

RootinFerDukes
December 17th, 2018, 08:50 AM
Elon official announcement of new head coach set for 1pm today. Phoenix fans seem to think it’s Coach Trisciani. xpeacex

The Elon twitter account seems to have already confirmed it's Trisciani.

Gangtackle11
December 17th, 2018, 09:14 AM
The Elon twitter account seems to have already confirmed it's Trisciani.

Yes. His twitter page says “ Head Football Coach @ Elon “

RootinFerDukes
December 17th, 2018, 10:46 AM
Honest assessment from Elon fans:

Are we lucky to hire Curt Cignetti?

When Everett Withers left, we were pissed it happened and where he went, but we knew it wasn't a good fit and it was only further confirmed the next season. We didn't miss him at all.

When Mike Houston left, yes his teams were declining each year and you're kinda thinking "if you won't keep your eye off the other gal, then just go already". You're kind of done with it. We still lost a good coach though and a smooth talker too. It's clear Cignetti is a bit more awkward in that department.

I've accepted that we're a stepping stone and the Mickey Matthews, Andy Talleys and Jimmye Laycocks staying for 10+ years is a thing of the past. As long as we're winning, I couldn't care less about being a stepping stone.

EU2000
December 17th, 2018, 11:33 AM
Honest assessment from Elon fans:

Are we lucky to hire Curt Cignetti?

When Everett Withers left, we were pissed it happened and where he went, but we knew it wasn't a good fit and it was only further confirmed the next season. We didn't miss him at all.

When Mike Houston left, yes his teams were declining each year and you're kinda thinking "if you won't keep your eye off the other gal, then just go already". You're kind of done with it. We still lost a good coach though and a smooth talker too. It's clear Cignetti is a bit more awkward in that department.

I've accepted that we're a stepping stone and the Mickey Matthews, Andy Talleys and Jimmye Laycocks staying for 10+ years is a thing of the past. As long as we're winning, I couldn't care less about being a stepping stone.

RootinFerDukes,

Yes, you hired a good coach. Where he is, teams win. To take a program that went 12-45 in recent years before his hire, to 14-9 in his 2 years here is nothing short of amazing. Not to mention back to back playoff appearances.

NOW......The entire fiasco has rubbed me the wrong way...from the timing to his quotes in the local paper. I've lost a lot of respect for him in recent days.

RootinFerDukes
December 17th, 2018, 11:41 AM
I've also lost a lot of respect for Mike Houston too. We've caught him in a number of lies. I'd rather him just be honest, even if it hurts. His crocodile tears in his post-game presser after Colgate were just pathetic.

"I don't know what my future holds". ECU announces the next day. Yeah...

He said on a radio show that he wouldn't poach JMU commits. He was photographed at a recruit's house late last week. Why lie? Just say nothing.

FWIW, Cignetti said he won't pursue Elon commits and I haven't seen any proof of that yet. He did offer a Stony Brook 3 star RB commit yesterday.

Gangtackle11
December 21st, 2018, 01:11 PM
Former Villanova DC Billy Crocker fired by UConn today. Doubt he’d come back, but he’d be a welcomed edition. xpeacex

maine612
December 21st, 2018, 03:01 PM
Former Villanova DC Billy Crocker fired by UConn today. Doubt he’d come back, but he’d be a welcomed edition. xpeacex

There is an opening at Maine! Wishful thinking.

612

cx500d
December 21st, 2018, 06:01 PM
Mods, please close this thread....The season is over for these teams and they CAAn't post anymore.

jmu007
December 21st, 2018, 06:20 PM
really... running out of material 'eh ?

cx500d
December 21st, 2018, 06:43 PM
really... running out of material 'eh ?

Or, change title to off-season thread

It's getting a little slow with the novembrists and decembrists dropping off.