AGS Top 25 - How They Fared Week 1 2018

[superman7515]

Good morning all,

Here is the opening How They Fared thread for the 2018 season (Sagarin still hasn't updated, I'll add them in this afternoon when he gets it posted after the games are finished).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yiaf4b7iOpLArDbfvJy_c-8vDWC6obKPNIE1QfuRfFk/edit?usp=sharing


I would caution that there is a Top 25 team still playing today, North Carolina A&T @ East Carolina Pirates, so it may be in everyone's best interest to withhold that ballot until the game is completed. It has the potential to not only affect NC A&T, but also a Top 25 team in Jacksonville St who the Aggies beat in a close Week 0 game, which could cause a lot of shuffling in your ballots should the Aggies prevail today, or at least play a close game.

That being said, when you do fill out your ballot, pay attention.

To whoever voted for Arkansas-Pine Bluff, who may legitimately be the worst team in FCS...
https://media0.giphy.com/media/xT0BKBOzy7ASIA82ZO/giphy.gif

[kdinva]

Thanks, friend.........I forgot about the postponed game in Greenville.........

[Daytripper]

I was looking at my poll this morning and....

https://media2.giphy.com/media/9QvuoiiT6SBtm/giphy.gif

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Yes, it was opened but is now closed again and we will work on changing those balls that were cast later if need be. There were only a few since I am sure Supey's warning helped keep people at bay for my screw up.

[Redbird 4th & short]

google chart had my ISUr at 0-1 .. I know we won a useless game againsts an NAIA team, but at least we covered the spread .. please give us credit for W .... pretty please !!!

p.s. but do feel free to put a big fat asterisk by that W .. Redbird Nation is none too happy our AD scheduled this game for budgetary reasons .. he didn't want 2 straight seasons with just 5 home game ... imagine the reaction if we finish 7-4 and don't get a bid because we're really just 6-4.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Good morning all,

Here is the opening How They Fared thread for the 2018 season (Sagarin still hasn't updated, I'll add them in this afternoon when he gets it posted after the games are finished).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yiaf4b7iOpLArDbfvJy_c-8vDWC6obKPNIE1QfuRfFk/edit?usp=sharing


I would caution that there is a Top 25 team still playing today, North Carolina A&T @ East Carolina Pirates, so it may be in everyone's best interest to withhold that ballot until the game is completed. It has the potential to not only affect NC A&T, but also a Top 25 team in Jacksonville St who the Aggies beat in a close Week 0 game, which could cause a lot of shuffling in your ballots should the Aggies prevail today, or at least play a close game.

That being said, when you do fill out your ballot, pay attention.

To whoever voted for Arkansas-Pine Bluff, who may legitimately be the worst team in FCS...
https://media0.giphy.com/media/xT0BKBOzy7ASIA82ZO/giphy.gif

you obvously don't believe in our great democracy !!! or participation based awards !!

xlolx

[superman7515]

google chart had my ISUr at 0-1

Sorry, I freely admit I make errors from time-to-time, especially early in the season when there are 50+ teams getting votes and I'm having to jump around alot.

Mea culpa, it's fixed.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Sorry, I freely admit I make errors from time-to-time, especially early in the season when there are 50+ teams getting votes and I'm having to jump around alot.

Mea culpa, it's fixed.

no worries .. 0-0 would have been more accurate still, than 1-0 ... in eyes of FCS selection committee.

[Catatonic]

Waiting till after the NCAT-ECU game to do my poll gives me time to ponder which team picked up the most impressive W this week. Here’s my short list....

North Alabama over Southern Utah
Butler over Youngstown
Nicholls over Kansas from the Big 12
Northern Arizona’s impressive W over FBS UTEP
Cal Davis over FBS San Jose State
NCAT over Jacksonville State
Maine’s big win over New Hampshire

[JSUSoutherner]

Montana seemed to turn some heads last night as well

[JacksFan40]

Waiting till after the NCAT-ECU game to do my poll gives me time to ponder which team picked up the most impressive W this week. Here’s my short list....

North Alabama over Southern Utah
Butler over Youngstown
Nicholls over Kansas from the Big 12
Northern Arizona’s impressive W over FBS UTEP
Cal Davis over FBS San Jose State
NCAT over Jacksonville State
Maine’s big win over New Hampshire
Nicholls over Kansas isn’t really an upset, and UTEP wouldn’t have a winning record in the FCS, they’re possibly the worst FBS while Kansas is easily the worst P5.
Other than that it’s a good list.

[BisonFan02]

NDSU is gonna be pretty good.

[superman7515]

Waiting till after the NCAT-ECU game to do my poll gives me time to ponder which team picked up the most impressive W this week. Here’s my short list....

North Alabama over Southern Utah
Butler over Youngstown
Nicholls over Kansas from the Big 12
Northern Arizona’s impressive W over FBS UTEP
Cal Davis over FBS San Jose State
NCAT over Jacksonville State
Maine’s big win over New Hampshire

Some teams with noteworthy performances, including some better or worse than expected...

The Expected:
Northern Arizona had a 74% chance of victory @ UTEP - Northern Arizona favored by 7.5 - Northern Arizona win 30-10
UC Davis had a 54% chance @ San Jose State - UC Davis favored by 2.5 - UC Davis wins 44-38

The Good:
Villanova had a 5% chance @ Temple - Temple was favored by 21.5 - Villanova wins 19-17
Nicholls had a 17% chance @ Kansas - Kansas favored by 13.5 - Nicholls wins 26-23
South Dakota had a 6% chance @ Kansas State - KState favored by 21.5 - KState wins 27-24
Howard had a 1% chance @ Ohio - Ohio favored by 33.5 - Ohio wins 38-32

The Bad:
Stony Brook had a 28% chance @ Air Force - Air Force favored by 7.5 - Air Force wins 38-0
Weber State had a 14% chance @ Utah - Utah favored by 14.5 - Utah wins 41-10
Central Connecticut had a 30% chance @ Ball State - Ball State favored by 6.5 - Ball St wins 42-6

The Ugly:
Portland State had a 5% chance @ Nevada - Nevada favored by 22.5 - Nevada wins 72-19
Idaho had a 12% chance of victory @ Fresno St - Fresno State favored by 16.5 - Fresno State wins 79-13

[superman7515]

And similarly, from FCS vs FCS (it's Good or Bad depending on which team you're looking at, so doesn't really fit the FCS/FBS narrative):

Butler had a 0% chance @ Youngstown St - Youngstown St favored by 39.5 - Butler wins 23-21
Rhode Island had a 15% chance @ Delaware - Delaware favored by 14.5 - Rhode Island wins 21-19
Western Illinois had a 70% chance @ Montana St - W Illinois favored by 6.5 - Montana State wins 26-23
New Hampshire had a 45% chance @ Maine - Maine favored by 2.5 - Maine wins 35-7
Bethune-Cookman had a 51% chance @ Tennessee St - BCU favored .5 - Tennessee St wins 34-3
Georgetown had a 51% chance @ Marist - Georgetown favored by 1.5 - Georgetown wins 39-14
N Alabama had a 5% chance @ Southern Utah - Southern Utah favored by 23.5 - N Alabama wins 34-30
Lafayette had a 34% chance @ Sacred Heart - Sacred Heart favored by 5.5 - Sacred Heart wins 35-6

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Waiting till after the NCAT-ECU game to do my poll gives me time to ponder which team picked up the most impressive W this week. Here’s my short list....

North Alabama over Southern Utah
Butler over Youngstown
Nicholls over Kansas from the Big 12
Northern Arizona’s impressive W over FBS UTEP
Cal Davis over FBS San Jose State
NCAT over Jacksonville State
Maine’s big win over New Hampshire

UNA is not eligible for the poll until they are eligible for their own conference championship OR the FCS Playoffs. Until then we can talk about them, be impressed by them, etc. but that selection won't be available in the poll. Just wanted to point that out in case anyone was thinking differently and looking to choose them.

[Bisonwinagn]

UNA is not eligible for the poll until they are eligible for their own conference championship OR the FCS Playoffs. Until then we can talk about them, be impressed by them, etc. but that selection won't be available in the poll. Just wanted to point that out in case anyone was thinking differently and looking to choose them.

Why are they not in the Poll? Ivy league, MEAC, SWAC do NOT participate in playoff are they excluded as well??

[superman7515]

Why are they not in the Poll? Ivy league, MEAC, SWAC do NOT participate in playoff are they excluded as well??

Choose not participate in the playoffs is not the same as by rule are not eligible for the playoffs.

[JSUSoutherner]

Why are they not in the Poll? Ivy league, MEAC, SWAC do NOT participate in playoff are they excluded as well??
Those teams are still eligible for their conference championship.

North Alabama is still playing a Gulf South schedule this year and won't be eligible for the Big South crown.

[BEAR]

Southland did pretty good this week.

Nicholls beat FBS Kansas. Gonna be tough this year.
Tulsa escaped UCA with 62 rushes, a UCA TD that was called a fumble, and a botched kickoff.
McNeese won.
Sam was Idle.
All the other games went as expected with beating lower division teams or getting beat by higher teams.

Big week next week with all 11 teams playing in the SLC.

[polsongrizz]

Can I finally vote now that this game is over?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

The Poll is now open (for real) so get your ballot in, check your emails to see if I am bugging you later etc.

These voters need to reply to their ballot they received in the email earlier if they need to adjust their ballot due to NC A&T victory over ECU.



Kemo


Gangtackle11


Vandal03


Professor Chaos


jmu007


smallcollegefbfan


PaladinFan


wmmii

[R.A.]

Good morning all,

Here is the opening How They Fared thread for the 2018 season (Sagarin still hasn't updated, I'll add them in this afternoon when he gets it posted after the games are finished).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yiaf4b7iOpLArDbfvJy_c-8vDWC6obKPNIE1QfuRfFk/edit?usp=sharing


I would caution that there is a Top 25 team still playing today, North Carolina A&T @ East Carolina Pirates, so it may be in everyone's best interest to withhold that ballot until the game is completed. It has the potential to not only affect NC A&T, but also a Top 25 team in Jacksonville St who the Aggies beat in a close Week 0 game, which could cause a lot of shuffling in your ballots should the Aggies prevail today, or at least play a close game.

That being said, when you do fill out your ballot, pay attention.

To whoever voted for Arkansas-Pine Bluff, who may legitimately be the worst team in FCS...
https://media0.giphy.com/media/xT0BKBOzy7ASIA82ZO/giphy.gif
You can change the result of the A&T/ ECU game...

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Why are they not in the Poll? Ivy league, MEAC, SWAC do NOT participate in playoff are they excluded as well??

I've went over it so many times but realize you obviously have not seen it but any team has to be eligible for EITHER their own conference championship or the playoffs. Do any of those listed fit one of those requirements?

It is not about playoff participation in any way.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Additional note to the voters, I thought I had the form email fixed but I was incorrect. I will manually send these out about 5 to 10 min. after the top of each hour until 11p Mountain and will begin again in the morning around 8a.

[superman7515]

You can change the result of the A&T/ ECU game...

Stepped out to get some dinner after the game.

Results are updated - Sagarin still hasn't updated and Massey will probably update now that more games have been played, so I'll check back in with them later.

[Lion1983]

Those teams are still eligible for their conference championship.

North Alabama is still playing a Gulf South schedule this year and won't be eligible for the Big South crown.
We are not playing a Gulf South Schedule.

We play a few schools that are in the GSC only because we could not find anyone else in FCS to play those weeks on an Indy schedule. If the Hampton/MEAC/Big South fiasco would have taken place sooner, we would have dropped one of those games and picked up Hampton.

[R.A.]

Stepped out to get some dinner after the game.

Results are updated - Sagarin still hasn't updated and Massey will probably update now that more games have been played, so I'll check back in with them later.

Thank you

[jmufan999]

i'm trying to vote but am not seeing the voting check mark button anywhere.

[TheKingpin28]

i'm trying to vote but am not seeing the voting check mark button anywhere.

If you read the "Voters Room/Topic" for this week, Ursus made it clear it was not available and you'd have to go through the thread or email to get to it.

[superman7515]

So I'm thinking...

Significant win: A&T for wins over #8 Jacksonville State and FBS East Carolina (kinda cheating since they have two wins on this one)
Significant loss: Youngstown for the loss to Butler

Thoughts?

[WestCoastAggie]

So I'm thinking...

Significant win: A&T for wins over #8 Jacksonville State and FBS East Carolina (kinda cheating since they have two wins on this one)
Significant loss: Youngstown for the loss to Butler

Thoughts?

YSU should not have even been ranked, IMHO.

I picked UNH for how they were dominated by Maine.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Tough to make an argument against those two from my view.

BTW, I am updating the Poll thread and usually post some updates on this one since it is very active but not going to divert discussion here so you all have to go over this one for updates on issues etc.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?211473-2018-AGS-POLL-Week-1-TOP-25-VOTE-IS-OPEN&p=2665301#post2665301

[JMUNJ08]

YSU should not have even been ranked, IMHO.

I picked UNH for how they were dominated by Maine.

Went with UNH as well for the QB injury so could be more than just this 1 game and affect the whole season.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

So I'm thinking...

Significant win: A&T for wins over #8 Jacksonville State and FBS East Carolina (kinda cheating since they have two wins on this one)
Significant loss: Youngstown for the loss to Butler

Thoughts?

I had to go Villanova over Temple. Slightly vested interest but the 'Cats beating their FBS rival, who is suppose to be pretty good, to start the year is huge.

[Twentysix]

Tough to make an argument against those two from my view.

BTW, I am updating the Poll thread and usually post some updates on this one since it is very active but not going to divert discussion here so you all have to go over this one for updates on issues etc.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?211473-2018-AGS-POLL-Week-1-TOP-25-VOTE-IS-OPEN&p=2665301#post2665301

Why can I not view that link Ursus? I'm guessing that's why I couldn't find a voting link anywhere but in my email for both the preseason polls and also this weeks poll. Also I voted pretty soon after AT finished playing and never received my ballot in an email, just like the preseason poll. Maybe my account perms aren't setup right?

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If you read the "Voters Room/Topic" for this week, Ursus made it clear it was not available and you'd have to go through the thread or email to get to it.

It would seem that some voters don't have access to that.

[Twentysix]

So I'm thinking...

Significant win: A&T for wins over #8 Jacksonville State and FBS East Carolina (kinda cheating since they have two wins on this one)
Significant loss: Youngstown for the loss to Butler

Thoughts?

Imo
Win goes to Maine, that is probably the best win in the FCS so far including all of the FCS over FBS wins.
Loss def goes to YSU losing like that to a non-scholly when they were expected to be a top 25 team. (maybe butler is going to be amazing this year, I really doubt it)

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Why can I not view that link Ursus? I'm guessing that's why I couldn't find a voting link anywhere but in my email for both the preseason polls and also this weeks poll. Also I voted pretty soon after AT finished playing and never received my ballot in an email, just like the preseason poll. Maybe my account perms aren't setup right?

Twentysix, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:


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It would seem that some voters don't have access to that.

You are correct, I missed adding you back in to that forum. There are probably 7 things I have to do for each voter and I miss one sometimes. That is one reason I like to go post a link to that forum once in a while to try and sort out anyone that I could have missed. Click it now and you have access. Apologies for missing that.xthumbsupx

[Twentysix]

You are correct, I missed adding you back in to that forum. There are probably 7 things I have to do for each voter and I miss one sometimes. That is one reason I like to go post a link to that forum once in a while to try and sort out anyone that I could have missed. Click it now and you have access. Apologies for missing that.xthumbsupx

Thanks

[Catatonic]

Those teams are still eligible for their conference championship.

North Alabama is still playing a Gulf South schedule this year and won't be eligible for the Big South crown.

Poor UNA is an exile. Not eligible for either D2 or FCS. They are destined to wander alone in the football Netherlands for the next four years.

[Catatonic]

Nicholls over Kansas isn’t really an upset, and UTEP wouldn’t have a winning record in the FCS, they’re possibly the worst FBS while Kansas is easily the worst P5.
Other than that it’s a good list.

Here was my reasoning....

Nicholls...a W over any P5 by a FCS team outside the top ten is impressive.

NAU was on my list because of the margin of victory was much wider than expected.

[WileECoyote06]

So I'm thinking...

Significant win: A&T for wins over #8 Jacksonville State and FBS East Carolina (kinda cheating since they have two wins on this one)
Significant loss: Youngstown for the loss to Butler

Thoughts?

After a 73 page thread about it, definitely A&T.

I went with Butler over Youngstown; but Maine over UNH definitely got some consideration.

[Catatonic]

I went with Butler. Because no scholarships. Because 0% chance of winning.

On the most significant loss side, I stayed with the same game and went with Youngstown. Because 63 scholarships. Rich history. Toughest conference in the FCS. Name coach. 100% chance of winning.

How does a team like Butler beat a team like Youngstown? Maybe this loss coupled with UNI’s loss to Montana shows the MVFC isn’t as strong as usual top to bottom?

[TheKingpin28]

I chose Maine for the win part due to most people not even having them ranked and they obliterated their opponent while for loss, it is hard to go against UNH but I like to have two different responses for these so I went with YSU for the loss but USeD had me intrigued due to the fact that they pissed that game away.

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[superman7515]

Not saying anyone's opinion is wrong, and it's not like Most Significant is anything but opinion, but I am surprised by all the Maine responses since Maine was the favorite and expected to win anyway.

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

And similarly, from FCS vs FCS (it's Good or Bad depending on which team you're looking at, so doesn't really fit the FCS/FBS narrative):

Butler had a 0% chance @ Youngstown St - Youngstown St favored by 39.5 - Butler wins 23-21
Rhode Island had a 15% chance @ Delaware - Delaware favored by 14.5 - Rhode Island wins 21-19
Western Illinois had a 70% chance @ Montana St - W Illinois favored by 6.5 - Montana State wins 26-23
New Hampshire had a 45% chance @ Maine - Maine favored by 2.5 - Maine wins 35-7
Bethune-Cookman had a 51% chance @ Tennessee St - BCU favored .5 - Tennessee St wins 34-3
Georgetown had a 51% chance @ Marist - Georgetown favored by 1.5 - Georgetown wins 39-14
N Alabama had a 5% chance @ Southern Utah - Southern Utah favored by 23.5 - N Alabama wins 34-30
Lafayette had a 34% chance @ Sacred Heart - Sacred Heart favored by 5.5 - Sacred Heart wins 35-6

How could Maine have been favored over UNH when they were #7 and Maine was #38? The spread I saw was UNH favored by 5.5 pts. Certainly enjoyed Maine's complete domination and alot of Maine fans liked our chances to finally get a W but not many saw us the favorite?

[jmu007]

Sending that reply your way in a just a few. I'm out in Denver on vacation and submitted early to make sure I got it done... go figure haha.


The Poll is now open (for real) so get your ballot in, check your emails to see if I am bugging you later etc.

These voters need to reply to their ballot they received in the email earlier if they need to adjust their ballot due to NC A&T victory over ECU.



Kemo


Gangtackle11


Vandal03


Professor Chaos


jmu007


smallcollegefbfan


PaladinFan


wmmii

[LehighU11]

Delaware had the most significant loss in my book. Last year was a solid first year under Rocco, so I expected them to improve this season. Losing to URI (3-8 in 2017) really makes the road to the playoffs much harder with a difficult slate of road CAA games, NDSU on the road, and 2 awful OOC opponents that won't help their resume. 7-4 last year put them on the outside looking in, so Rhody better be a wake up call for UD.

[caribbeanhen]

Delaware had the most significant loss in my book. Last year was a solid first year under Rocco, so I expected them to improve this season. Losing to URI (3-8 in 2017) really makes the road to the playoffs much harder with a difficult slate of road CAA games, NDSU on the road, and 2 awful OOC opponents that won't help their resume. 7-4 last year put them on the outside looking in, so Rhody better be a wake up call for UD.

I think the game was just as much a wake up call for the CAA, Delaware just turned on the alarm clock so to speak

Rhode Island has more offensive firepower than Delaware right now, #6 Aaron Parker is a player to watch

[Schism55]

How could Maine have been favored over UNH when they were #7 and Maine was #38? The spread I saw was UNH favored by 5.5 pts. Certainly enjoyed Maine's complete domination and alot of Maine fans liked our chances to finally get a W but not many saw us the favorite?
That spread was all OVER the place. I saw all the way from Maine favored by 2 to UNH favored by 8.5.
May god have mercy on your soul if you bet Maine - points in that game :D
(No freaking way Maine should have been close to a fav in that game)

[POD Knows]

How could Maine have been favored over UNH when they were #7 and Maine was #38? The spread I saw was UNH favored by 5.5 pts. Certainly enjoyed Maine's complete domination and alot of Maine fans liked our chances to finally get a W but not many saw us the favorite?I agree with this, it wasn't that Maine just beat NH it was how they beat them. I also thought that NH was the favorite and was pretty sure I saw that someplace.

[TheKingpin28]

How could Maine have been favored over UNH when they were #7 and Maine was #38? The spread I saw was UNH favored by 5.5 pts. Certainly enjoyed Maine's complete domination and alot of Maine fans liked our chances to finally get a W but not many saw us the favorite?I looked at it this way. They shut down the supposed best QB in the CAA in Knight and then continued to piss pound their defense into the ground. Hell of a smackdown.

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[POD Knows]

Choose not participate in the playoffs is not the same as by rule are not eligible for the playoffs.How do the other FCS polls handle a situation like UNA. Maybe this is a stupid question and has been answered before but I am just curious.

[Derby City Duke]

I looked at it this way. They shut down the supposed best QB in the CAA in Knight and then continued to piss pound their defense into the ground. Hell of a smackdown.

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They actually knocked Knight out of the game in the 2nd quarter while the game was still competitive.

[TheKingpin28]

Exactly, they shut him down. xlolx

The thing is, Maine is good enough to beat the good teams. They are a solid sleeper pick but that kind of a win is a testament to how dominant they were.

Think about how good CCSU did in the playoffs with a 4th string QB against UNH last year. Now think about how much better Maine is compared to CCSU.

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[kperk014]

Those teams are still eligible for their conference championship.

North Alabama is still playing a Gulf South schedule this year and won't be eligible for the Big South crown.

North Dakota State, Southern Utah, Alabama A&M, THE WORD and Campbell? It's a D1 schedule but out of necessity contains D2s as well because we were unable to schedule more D1s. Scheduling next year shouldn't be a problem.

[kperk014]

Poor UNA is an exile. Not eligible for either D2 or FCS. They are destined to wander alone in the football Netherlands for the next four years.

Yeah, I guess that's called "paying our dues." I remember actually feeling some sympathy for our old GSC rivals JSU and TSU when they were playing in conferences 600 miles from home. After 10 or 15 minutes I got over it. The thing that still riles me is we didn't make the move after the 1995 season. At that time entrance fees were only $5,000. Now they are 1.4 million. Unfortunately hosting the D2 National Championship game was more important to some in power than moving up. You snooze............ you lose a million dollars.

[kperk014]

How do the other FCS polls handle a situation like UNA. Maybe this is a stupid question and has been answered before but I am just curious.

UNA received votes (33) in the September 3 STATS FCS poll.
Southern Utah (67) , Colgate (50) , Richmond (44) , Western Illinois (42) , Butler (42) , North Alabama (33) , North Dakota (28) , Tennessee State (22) , Lehigh (21) , Youngstown State (21) , Western Carolina (16) , Prairie View A&M (16) , Southeastern Louisiana (10) , Chattanooga (9) , Monmouth (8) , Southern Illinois (5) , Howard (5) , Idaho (4) , Alabama State (3) , Central Connecticut State (3) , Fordham (2) , Harvard (1) , Duquesne (1)

[Catatonic]

Yeah, I guess that's called "paying our dues." I remember actually feeling some sympathy for our old GSC rivals JSU and TSU when they were playing in conferences 600 miles from home. After 10 or 15 minutes I got over it. The thing that still riles me is we didn't make the move after the 1995 season. At that time entrance fees were only $5,000. Now they are 1.4 million. Unfortunately hosting the D2 National Championship game was more important to some in power than moving up. You snooze............ you lose a million dollars.


I feel for ya. We just went through the process. Being ineligible for either a conference championship or the playoffs makes for a recruiting challenge. Kids like to come to a program that has lost season options. Not even being eligible to have your accomplishments recognized in a poll make matters worse.

Shelling out a million to join the club strains the budget, particularly when coupled with the fact that you aren’t eligible for conference revenue sharing until you finish the transition (at least that’s the rule in the SLC).

But it it all goes by quickly and soon enough it will be over.

[Derby City Duke]

Exactly, they shut him down. xlolx

The thing is, Maine is good enough to beat the good teams. They are a solid sleeper pick but that kind of a win is a testament to how dominant they were.

Think about how good CCSU did in the playoffs with a 4th string QB against UNH last year. Now think about how much better Maine is compared to CCSU.

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I don't really know how good Maine is -- was hoping to watch them in person at Western Kentucky this weekend, but my wife is forcing me to attend a wedding Saturday night. xpissedx

I do know that Maine had a flood of emotion going for them last weekend -- last year's season ended with a home loss on a final play Hail Mary vs. Stony Brook; home opener; rivalry game; freshman player collapsed and died during a summer workout. Look no further than Maryland for the parallel of a middling P5 team channeling emotion to beat a supposedly superior team last weekend. Add the QB KO to the mix and UNH went into the tank. Only a little surprised at the ending; very surprised UNH appeared to crack mentally.