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ursus arctos horribilis
July 16th, 2018, 04:49 PM
We are down to one week until the 2018 Preseason Poll opens up. Can not believe it is already here.

Some reference links for newbies interested in voting:

Registration
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?208760-2018-Poll-Registration-Now-Open


AGS Poll 2018 Dates & Information
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?207948-AGS-Poll-2018-Dates-amp-Information


Now, aside from all that what do you guys and gals think about some teams making strides and some falling back this season? We have had a ton of good info. posted out there with things like Keeper's stack and several other information sources. If you want to bring them over and link them in here for a discussion please feel free to do so.

We already have a good idea what the top 10 is gonna be but what do we think will be going on with the next 20 or so teams for the poll?

Also, feel free to help out by bumping those other threads a bit if you pass by them.

TheKingpin28
July 16th, 2018, 08:46 PM
https://i.giphy.com/media/nXxOjZrbnbRxS/giphy.webp

FUBeAR
July 16th, 2018, 09:01 PM
Almost ready...

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--2j8Ryj5V--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/gl3cj3ij9cdtatid0z57.jpg

BisonFan02
July 16th, 2018, 09:03 PM
shenanigans

JSUSoutherner
July 16th, 2018, 09:50 PM
Almost ready...

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--2j8Ryj5V--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/gl3cj3ij9cdtatid0z57.jpg

I guess I should have known Mercer was stuck in the 70s.

FUBeAR
July 16th, 2018, 09:56 PM
I guess I should have known Mercer was stuck in the 70s.We put men on the moon using that technology, young blood. And I only use that to run simulations on the FCS algorithms I’ve developed in my private lab...

http://cdn.freefolk.com/media/images/Drivetime-Mathematician-Freefolk-06.max-1200x675.jpg

cx500d
July 16th, 2018, 10:52 PM
We put men on the moon using that technology, young blood. And I only use that to run simulations on the FCS algorithms I’ve developed in my private lab...

http://cdn.freefolk.com/media/images/Drivetime-Mathematician-Freefolk-06.max-1200x675.jpg


That's amazing, but I don't need all those algorithms to pick the winner, although I'm sure your chalk board will lead you to the same answer. All I need is this to guide me to the correct answer:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTCPF34UQAcKwyr.jpg

Thumper 76
July 16th, 2018, 10:56 PM
Can’t believe it’s already that time. Get hype!


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Go...gate
July 17th, 2018, 12:31 AM
Been a pretty quiet Summer....

caribbeanhen
July 17th, 2018, 07:08 AM
how many lashes do you get if you sign up and for some excuse or another, forget to vote on time?

FUBeAR
July 17th, 2018, 07:30 AM
That's amazing, but I don't need all those algorithms to pick the winner, although I'm sure your chalk board will lead you to the same answer. All I need is this to guide me to the correct answer:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTCPF34UQAcKwyr.jpgYes, you are right. If I recall my cipherin’ correctly, I believe NDSU should crack my preseason Top 25 also.

dewey
July 17th, 2018, 07:52 AM
Wooo hoo!

I am ready!!!

Dewey

JSUSoutherner
July 17th, 2018, 08:04 AM
Yes, you are right. If I recall my cipherin’ correctly, I believe NDSU should crack my preseason Top 25 also.

Let me guess, is Mercer also in your preseason top 25?

FUBeAR
July 17th, 2018, 08:06 AM
Let me guess, is Mercer also in your preseason top 25?

Yep - just ahead of JSU & just behind APSU


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JSUSoutherner
July 17th, 2018, 08:11 AM
Yep - just ahead of JSU & just behind APSU


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Uh huh

SU DOG
July 17th, 2018, 09:08 AM
Well, since FUBeAR's favorite 2 words are SAMFORD SUX, I figured that I better sign back up,xlolx so I'm in.

TheRevSFA
July 17th, 2018, 09:56 AM
I have Sam ranked number 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...NDSU is somewhere in the 20s.

FUBeAR
July 17th, 2018, 10:07 AM
Well, since FUBeAR's favorite 2 words are SAMFORD SUX, I figured that I better sign back up,xlolx so I'm in.
Samford only SUX intra-SoCon. The Bulldogs are AWESOME inter-conference. In fact, I have them ranked just ahead of San Diego, which means they are ahead of ALL Big Sky Teams. xnodx

dewey
July 17th, 2018, 10:10 AM
Samford only SUX intra-SoCon. The Bulldogs are AWESOME inter-conference. In fact, I have them ranked just ahead of San Diego, which means they are ahead of ALL Big Sky Teams. xnodx

You sir are on a roll this morningxthumbsupx

Dewey

ursus arctos horribilis
July 17th, 2018, 02:07 PM
how many lashes do you get if you sign up and for some excuse or another, forget to vote on time?

I make it very simple for a voter to vote and to also do a good job in seeing if an error comes up and needs correction.

I make a post on the voter forum when it opens.
I also email the voters that it is open.
I get in touch if an error has occured.
If I have to send a pm.

In other words, you shouldn't really have too much of a chance to forget about it. But if you do you can miss 2 votes before I usually get to frisky and start pm'ing a voter and getting down to the why they are not doing the vote.

Basically, I put a **** load of work in so I will admit when someone signs up and I go to the trouble of making their sheet and rearranging spreadsheets, placing in hyperlinks, etc. then I can get pissy about my time being wasted for zero reason if a person signs up and does not intend to vote...or intend to make an effort as it were.

It's a commitment for the voters but from what I've seen it seems to be a pretty fun one for them so I hope all that want to will sign up and have some fun with it.

Thumper 76
July 17th, 2018, 02:23 PM
I make it very simple for a voter to vote and to also do a good job in seeing if an error comes up and needs correction.

I make a post on the voter forum when it opens.
I also email the voters that it is open.
I get in touch if an error has occured.
If I have to send a pm.

In other words, you shouldn't really have too much of a chance to forget about it. But if you do you can miss 2 votes before I usually get to frisky and start pm'ing a voter and getting down to the why they are not doing the vote.

Basically, I put a **** load of work in so I will admit when someone signs up and I go to the trouble of making their sheet and rearranging spreadsheets, placing in hyperlinks, etc. then I can get pissy about my time being wasted for zero reason if a person signs up and does not intend to vote...or intend to make an effort as it were.

It's a commitment for the voters but from what I've seen it seems to be a pretty fun one for them so I hope all that want to will sign up and have some fun with it.

And you should get pissy, y’all put in a massive amount of work to make the poll great.


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Gangtackle11
July 17th, 2018, 02:25 PM
how many lashes do you get if you sign up and for some excuse or another, forget to vote on time?

Nah....that’s too lenient. You will Be tied to your chair & forced to watch this on a 24/7 reel:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bamLJSgP-JA (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bamLJSgP-JA)

xpeacex

TheKingpin28
July 17th, 2018, 02:43 PM
shenanigans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNPW2wZ4D2s

TheKingpin28
July 17th, 2018, 02:45 PM
I have Sam ranked number 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...NDSU is somewhere in the 20s.

Sounds about right.

JSUSoutherner
July 17th, 2018, 03:10 PM
Sounds about right.

It's not....







He forgot UTC and Samford, obviously.

TheKingpin28
July 17th, 2018, 03:29 PM
It's not....







He forgot UTC and Samford, obviously.

Forgot about Chattown.

cx500d
July 17th, 2018, 05:47 PM
Nah....that’s too lenient. You will Be tied to your chair & forced to watch this on a 24/7 reel:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bamLJSgP-JA (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bamLJSgP-JA)

xpeacex



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4

caribbeanhen
July 17th, 2018, 06:02 PM
Nah....that’s too lenient. You will Be tied to your chair & forced to watch this on a 24/7 reel:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bamLJSgP-JA (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bamLJSgP-JA)

xpeacex

haha I dont wilt like a peach GT, I can take the football but that horrid soccer and lacrosse paint would do the trick, ugh...

caribbeanhen
July 17th, 2018, 06:04 PM
I make it very simple for a voter to vote and to also do a good job in seeing if an error comes up and needs correction.

I make a post on the voter forum when it opens.
I also email the voters that it is open.
I get in touch if an error has occured.
If I have to send a pm.

In other words, you shouldn't really have too much of a chance to forget about it. But if you do you can miss 2 votes before I usually get to frisky and start pm'ing a voter and getting down to the why they are not doing the vote.

Basically, I put a **** load of work in so I will admit when someone signs up and I go to the trouble of making their sheet and rearranging spreadsheets, placing in hyperlinks, etc. then I can get pissy about my time being wasted for zero reason if a person signs up and does not intend to vote...or intend to make an effort as it were.

It's a commitment for the voters but from what I've seen it seems to be a pretty fun one for them so I hope all that want to will sign up and have some fun with it.

thanks for lowdown Ursus, I'll probably take a powder... the poll deserves the voters to invest some solid time and research and I dont have it

Derby City Duke
July 17th, 2018, 11:08 PM
I make it very simple for a voter to vote and to also do a good job in seeing if an error comes up and needs correction.

I make a post on the voter forum when it opens.
I also email the voters that it is open.
I get in touch if an error has occured.
If I have to send a pm.

In other words, you shouldn't really have too much of a chance to forget about it. But if you do you can miss 2 votes before I usually get to frisky and start pm'ing a voter and getting down to the why they are not doing the vote.

Basically, I put a **** load of work in so I will admit when someone signs up and I go to the trouble of making their sheet and rearranging spreadsheets, placing in hyperlinks, etc. then I can get pissy about my time being wasted for zero reason if a person signs up and does not intend to vote...or intend to make an effort as it were.

It's a commitment for the voters but from what I've seen it seems to be a pretty fun one for them so I hope all that want to will sign up and have some fun with it.

I might have to do an unofficial ballot -- I don't have the requisite 1 year as a member to register. Hopefully I won't get beat up to badly for adding my xtwocentsx.

Roamingriz
July 18th, 2018, 06:28 AM
how many lashes do you get if you sign up and for some excuse or another, forget to vote on time?

25 from 25 voters or 25 from 24 voters if a voter forgets to check a spreadsheet and gets back in line to lash again

ElCid
July 18th, 2018, 07:53 AM
Its not that hard to vote on time. A simple smart phone reminder. I would also suggest that people use some sort of spreadsheet and keep track of their weekly votes. It really helps with preventing omissions in your poll. I personally keep one on my desk top, or I throw it on my laptop if I am on the road. Plus ursus gives people a link to your previous votes. Never a need to wing it. Trying to do it on a phone is just too difficult, at least for me.

Catbooster
July 18th, 2018, 11:19 AM
Keeper's starters/stats lost:
http://www.keepratings.net/#

Big Sky preseason polls:
https://www.bigskyconf.com/news/2018/7/16/football-eastern-washington-picked-to-win-the-big-sky.aspx

2018 Big Sky Football Coaches Poll
School Total Points (First-place votes)
Eastern Washington 134 (6)
Weber State 124 (3)
Northern Arizona 121 (3)
Idaho 101 (1)
Sacramento State 94
Southern Utah 91
Montana 82
Montana State 76
UC Davis 64
Cal Poly 40
Northern Colorado 30
Idaho State 29
Portland State 21

2018 Big Sky Football Media Poll
School Total Points (First-place votes)
Eastern Washington 651 (27)
Weber State 636 (19)
Northern Arizona 535 (1)
Montana 496 (2)
Idaho 483 (3)
Southern Utah 449 (1)
Sacramento State 415
Montana State 391 (1)
UC Davis 331 (1)
Idaho State 170
Cal Poly 169
Northern Colorado 166
Portland State 103

ursus arctos horribilis
July 18th, 2018, 01:08 PM
I might have to do an unofficial ballot -- I don't have the requisite 1 year as a member to register. Hopefully I won't get beat up to badly for adding my xtwocentsx.

Go sign up and see if you get a pass due to your amount of posts etc. Those rules are frequently massaged on a case by case basis. If a person is nearly there with time and has a good number of FCS discussion posts you will get approved trust me on that.

ursus arctos horribilis
July 18th, 2018, 01:10 PM
25 from 25 voters or 25 from 24 voters if a voter forgets to check a spreadsheet and gets back in line to lash again

Right now, you have a perfect number of posts. I'd screenshot that one. I remember when I hit that specific number about 12 yrs. back. xlolx

ursus arctos horribilis
July 18th, 2018, 01:11 PM
thanks for lowdown Ursus, I'll probably take a powder... the poll deserves the voters to invest some solid time and research and I dont have it

Thanks for helping me put out some pertinent info. for others that might be wondering the process.xthumbsupx

MR. CHICKEN
July 18th, 2018, 01:42 PM
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28156&stc=1.......AH.......ONCE VOTED.....DUH POLL..........FROM UH LIBRARY COMPUTER.......WHILE MAH MACHINE........WAS ATTACKED.....BAH RUSSIANS.........HAD TA REGISTER DERE.....&.....PAY UH FEE.......BUT....ANYTHIN.....TA KEEP......BIZONSSSSSSS HAPPY.......AN' ON TOP.....xsighxxsighxxsighx.........AWQ!

ursus arctos horribilis
July 18th, 2018, 02:10 PM
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28156&stc=1.......AH.......ONCE VOTED.....DUH POLL..........FROM UH LIBRARY COMPUTER.......WHILE MAH MACHINE........WAS ATTACKED.....BAH RUSSIANS.........HAD TA REGISTER DERE.....&.....PAY UH FEE.......BUT....ANYTHIN.....TA KEEP......BIZONSSSSSSS HAPPY.......AN' ON TOP.....xsighxxsighxxsighx.........AWQ!

You, and all of the silvers have a level of dedication that is really a pretty unbelievable achievement in my book.

It is really impressive to look back at your historical voter cards.

Roamingriz
July 18th, 2018, 04:29 PM
Right now, you have a perfect number of posts. I'd screenshot that one. I remember when I hit that specific number about 12 yrs. back. xlolx

Appreciate the reminder there, almost passed me by, go griz!

Derby City Duke
July 20th, 2018, 11:10 AM
Go sign up and see if you get a pass due to your amount of posts etc. Those rules are frequently massaged on a case by case basis. If a person is nearly there with time and has a good number of FCS discussion posts you will get approved trust me on that.

Thanks ursus; registered a few minutes ago -- see what happens.

BEAR
July 20th, 2018, 11:23 AM
13 years on AGS. I can't vote in this. Honestly I can't give an honest ranking of teams that I don't get to watch weekly. I can only take or not take the views of their fans on this board. Hate its that way but it is. Good luck to all voters. xbowx

ursus arctos horribilis
July 20th, 2018, 12:00 PM
13 years on AGS. I can't vote in this. Honestly I can't give an honest ranking of teams that I don't get to watch weekly. I can only take or not take the views of their fans on this board. Hate its that way but it is. Good luck to all voters. xbowx

I think you've said this more than once and it's kind of a silly premise that voters can watch all games that they are ranking.

That is not the standard. Getting input from others on their team and making your own assessment bases on those that don't support their view on their team and looking it over is a good standard that can be applied.

But this isn't something that anyone that does not want to put in a little bit of time, theory, and sometimes philosophical work on discussions should enter into. xlolx

ursus arctos horribilis
July 20th, 2018, 12:02 PM
Thanks ursus; registered a few minutes ago -- see what happens.

I just went and looked in the mirror and asked the guy if you are in. He said yes.

Congrats.

ursus arctos horribilis
July 20th, 2018, 12:08 PM
Additions to the previous list for new voters for 2018.

McCowboys
caribbeanhen
Derby City Duke


caribbeanhen!

Say what?

After all these years of saying "I might" you finally dipping your toes in!>

Glad to have all of you involved. It is much more fun.

RootinFerDukes
July 20th, 2018, 12:09 PM
Yeah I don't understand why some think they have to watch a lot of football nationwide every single week, like some major sports analyst, in order to fill out a poll.

Do you need to pay attention as much as possible, read a good amount, watch what you realistically can? Yes. Should you not vote just because you don't have the time to watch every game featuring a top 40 team? I think that's a little extreme.

You're one voter out of approximately 100 any given week. Your one vote isn't going to sway the outcome overall too much and this poll is still far more accurate that anything the media puts out. Do you honestly think they're bothering to watch any football outside of their own programs?

Catbooster
July 20th, 2018, 01:06 PM
13 years on AGS. I can't vote in this. Honestly I can't give an honest ranking of teams that I don't get to watch weekly. I can only take or not take the views of their fans on this board. Hate its that way but it is. Good luck to all voters. xbowx
If this is the criteria, then we probably need to think about dropping the poll. ;) I doubt anyone watches their top 40 teams on a weekly basis. There is some time involved (reading and researching, not just watching games) to make your vote an informed opinion, but most of us who spend a significant amount of time here already spend that time. IMO virtually everyone that is relatively involved on this board is at least as good as those voting in the media and coaches' polls.

Catbooster
July 20th, 2018, 01:08 PM
Additions to the previous list for new voters for 2018.

McCowboys
caribbeanhen
Derby City Duke


caribbeanhen!

Say what?

After all these years of saying "I might" you finally dipping your toes in!>

Glad to have all of you involved. It is much more fun.
xthumbsupx xbeerchugx

Catatonic
July 20th, 2018, 01:09 PM
13 years on AGS. I can't vote in this. Honestly I can't give an honest ranking of teams that I don't get to watch weekly. I can only take or not take the views of their fans on this board. Hate its that way but it is. Good luck to all voters. xbowx

What, there are no dart boards in Arkansas?

ursus arctos horribilis
July 20th, 2018, 01:14 PM
If this is the criteria, then we probably need to think about dropping the poll. ;) I doubt anyone watches their top 40 teams on a weekly basis. There is some time involved (reading and researching, not just watching games) to make your vote an informed opinion, but most of us who spend a significant amount of time here already spend that time. IMO virtually everyone that is relatively involved on this board is at least as good as those voting in the media and coaches' polls.

That one also nails it. I have always spent my Sunday morning going over results etc. so this is really just categorizing those thoughts.

Derby City Duke
July 20th, 2018, 05:40 PM
I just went and looked in the mirror and asked the guy if you are in. He said yes.

Congrats.

xbowx

Every time I look in a mirror these days I see lots of me and they're all ugly, so I've stopped. :D

Thanks, sir!

bjtheflamesfan
July 21st, 2018, 11:03 AM
I'm not sure how many years I was involved with the poll here, but this will be the first year I can recall where I will be making the decision to not participate with my team now in the FBS.

I will say to the new voters that you can have a voice even if you don't watch tons of games on espn3 or some such. Follow your boxscore, keep reading on here and vote for who you think are the top 25 teams in the country.

I'm going to enjoy reading and lurking and following the most accurate (imho) FCS poll in the country year after year. Thanks for giving me a chance UAH and good luck this year with the poll.

cx500d
July 21st, 2018, 01:59 PM
caribbeanhen!

Say what?

After all these years of saying "I might" you finally dipping your toes in!>

Glad to have all of you involved. It is much more fun.

Sounds like a Billy Ocean song


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caribbeanhen
July 22nd, 2018, 06:32 AM
Additions to the previous list for new voters for 2018.

McCowboys
caribbeanhen
Derby City Duke


caribbeanhen!

Say what?

After all these years of saying "I might" you finally dipping your toes in!>

Glad to have all of you involved. It is much more fun.

Yep, I might not be as busy as I think so I'm going to give it the effort!