TexasTerror: Serious discussion

[Panther88]

Do you have the #s of head-to-head (by sport) matchups over the last 10 years or even last 5 years of the SLC vs SWAC?

I'm OVERLY curious now and don't have time to research due to a pending deadline date.

Thx.

[Panther88]

Does TT have moi on ignore? :confused:

:eek:

[89Hen]

:eyebrow: Asking somebody to provide all sports match-ups between two conferences over 5-10 years and then complaining they're not getting back to you quickly enough? :eyebrow:

[blackfordpu]

Does TT have moi on ignore? :confused:

:eek:

He does have a job.

[Panther88]

He does have a job.

Well, thankfully we all do. :twocents:

He's normally up on stuff like this pretty quickly. That's why I asked him specifically. Thanks for answering though. I guess. :confused:

[Panther88]

:eyebrow: Asking somebody to provide all sports match-ups between two conferences over 5-10 years and then complaining they're not getting back to you quickly enough? :eyebrow:

Where? Who complained? I asked a question. You guys really need to stop seeing stuff that is "invisible" and not interjecting when your name isn't/wasn't called.

I didn't know TT's name was "89Hen." :confused:

Sheesh.

[89Hen]

xcoffeex

[YoUDeeMan]

Where? Who complained? I asked a question. You guys really need to stop seeing stuff that is "invisible" and not interjecting when your name isn't/wasn't called.

I didn't know TT's name was "89Hen." :confused:

Sheesh.

My name isn't TT either, but if you wanted a private discussion with TT, then you should have PM'd TT.

Instead, you put the subject on a thread that is open to all AGS members. :twocents:

It will be interesting to see if TT decides to assist you in your time of need. :eyebrow: :rolleyes: xlolx

[Panther88]

My name isn't TT either, but if you wanted a private discussion with TT, then you should have PM'd TT.

Instead, you put the subject on a thread that is open to all AGS members. :twocents:

It will be interesting to see if TT decides to assist you in your time of need. :eyebrow: :rolleyes: xlolx

Thanks Cluck U. You certainly added GREAT value to this discussion. :thumbsup:

Geez..

[TexasTerror]

Got home from work around 6ish and have been dealing with customer service due to someone messing around with my passwords unexpectedly. I've got a fantasy draft to get ready for, they can't be doing this to me!

SWAC vs SLC, head to head...?

If you go search around, I've posted it before featuring VB, Softball, Baseball and I think the basketballs...

[Panther88]

Got home from work around 6ish and have been dealing with customer service due to someone messing around with my passwords unexpectedly. I've got a fantasy draft to get ready for, they can't be doing this to me!

SWAC vs SLC, head to head...?

If you go search around, I've posted it before featuring VB, Softball, Baseball and I think the basketballs...

Precisely what I was looking for TT. Just didn't know where the information was readily as well as time not permitting me to research. If you could point me in the right direction, I'd certainly appreciate it.

No alterior motive TT. Just want to show quite a few how much the SWAC has dropped off as of late. (<10 yrs)

[YoUDeeMan]

Thanks Cluck U. You certainly added GREAT value to this discussion. :thumbsup:

Geez..

Damn. Two cents isn't worth as much as it used to be. :D :thumbsup: :smiley_wi

[TexasTerror]

I found these...

2006
Softball 28-2
Soccer 15-1
Volleyball 11-0

SLC Baseball
2007 SLC 20-2
2006 SLC 14-2
2005 SLC 25-1
2004 SLC 17-1
2003 SLC 20-4
2002 SLC 22-2

[Panther88]

I found these...

2006
Softball 28-2
Soccer 15-1
Volleyball 11-0

SLC Baseball
2007 SLC 20-2
2006 SLC 14-2
2005 SLC 25-1
2004 SLC 17-1
2003 SLC 20-4
2002 SLC 22-2

Looks like conference dominance to me. I know there haven't been too many football matchups, but if you still have those, I'd appreciate.

[*****]

Football? On the FCS Discussion board? Naaaaaaawwwwwwww... :p

[Frosty The Snowbuff]

All-Time (SWAC vs Southland):

Alcorn State 4-9
Grambling 1-3 (that 1 was to SFA)
Jackson State 7-10
Mississippi Valley State 0-5
Prarie View A&M 3-15-1 (SFA was the Tie)
Southern 12-19
Texas Southern 5-26

[jstate83]

All-Time (SWAC vs Southland):

Alcorn State 4-9
Grambling 1-3 (that 1 was to SFA)
Jackson State 7-10
Mississippi Valley State 0-5
Prarie View A&M 3-15-1 (SFA was the Tie)
Southern 12-19
Texas Southern 5-26


You saying Jackson State has only won 3 games against SL opponents?:eyebrow:

[Appstate29]

You saying Jackson State has only won 3 games against SL opponents?:eyebrow:

that could be one way of interpreting it since he has no keys, but I saw it as 7 wins vs. 10 losses.

[jstate83]

that could be one way of interpreting it since he has no keys, but I saw it as 7 wins vs. 10 losses.
Yep......................After I got the alcohol blurr out my eye's, I saw what he was saying. xlolx

[Panther88]

All-Time (SWAC vs Southland):

Alcorn State 4-9
Grambling 1-3 (that 1 was to SFA)
Jackson State 7-10
Mississippi Valley State 0-5
Prarie View A&M 3-15-1 (SFA was the Tie)
Southern 12-19
Texas Southern 5-26

If these are accurate (and for PV's sake, they are lol because I recall that tie to SFA in the early 80s lol), can you say "owned?" :( :nonono2:

Thx 4 D 411.

[TexasTerror]

All-Time (SWAC vs Southland):

Alcorn State 4-9
Grambling 1-3 (that 1 was to SFA)
Jackson State 7-10
Mississippi Valley State 0-5
Prarie View A&M 3-15-1 (SFA was the Tie)
Southern 12-19
Texas Southern 5-26

SLC leads 87-32 over the SWAC...

SWAC winning percentage... .268
SLC winning percentage... .731

That's dominance for sure. Not as great as baseball...

[gram4life]

All-Time (SWAC vs Southland):

Alcorn State 4-9
Grambling 1-3 (that 1 was to SFA)
Jackson State 7-10
Mississippi Valley State 0-5
Prarie View A&M 3-15-1 (SFA was the Tie)
Southern 12-19
Texas Southern 5-26

what about the wins Grambling had against Nicholls and NWst?

[SFA 71]

I'm curious? According to my calculations the SLC has lost 32 games (& a tie) to the SWAC yet the only team that is mentioned, as losing, is SFA. Why is it we get singled out as the only one worthy of mentioning. I guess it's because it was so rare? Must be some "Plotshot!"

[SFA 71]

He does have a job.
I'm amazed that he has a job. I know that in the six months I have been a member I've made 145 posting which, with my job, I thought was a lot. Since he's been a member he is averaging 2857 postings per year or 1428 every six months or 238 a month or around 7.5 each day. I wish I had his job & could make 8571 postings. Knowing how sensitive you are peewee, this isn't a slam, it's just a "WOW, that's a lot."::eek: :bow:

[Panther88]

what about the wins Grambling had against Nicholls and NWst?

I was hoping to isolate to the last 10 years but I'm not certain where Terror got his stats from (what range of years, etc).

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

I was hoping to isolate to the last 10 years but I'm not certain where Terror got his stats from (what range of years, etc).Try the southland's website.

[TexasTerror]

I was hoping to isolate to the last 10 years but I'm not certain where Terror got his stats from (what range of years, etc).

I took the numbers posted by the NWST poster...I didn't come up with those football stats and figures myself...

[PNeck19]

what about the wins Grambling had against Nicholls and NWst?

The only meeting I found between Grambling and Northwestern St. was in 1974, when Grambling won 14-13. Northwestern was a member of the Gulf South Conference at the time.

Interestingly, Northwestern was 1-10 in 1974, while Grambling was 11-1.

Grambling's 37-28 win in 2001 was the last meeting between the Tigers and Colonels. Grambling was 10-1 and Nicholls was 3-8 in 01. It's also the most recent win by the SWAC over the Southland.

In 1982, 8-3 Grambling downed 7-4 Nicholls 33-15. The Colonels were independent at the time.


I guess there are two ways to answer the original question:

Meetings while the teams were in their respective conferences.

OR

Meetings between current SWAC and current SLC members.

Give me a little while and I'll answer both.....

[PNeck19]

OK here goes...

SWAC vs. Southland the last 10 seasons (1997-2006):

Southland 34 wins
SWAC 5 wins

2006 (SLC 1-0)
Texas St. 41, Texas Southern 21

2005 (SLC 3-0)
McNeese St. 46, Texas Southern 28
Southeastern La. 38, Mississippi Val. 21
Southeastern La. 48, Alcorn St. 21

2004 (SLC 4-0)
McNeese St. 35, Southern U. 17
Northwestern St. 52, Texas Southern 6
Nicholls St. 21, Texas Southern 6
Northwestern St. 28, Jackson St. 20

2003 (SLC 4-0)
McNeese St. 31, Grambling 20
Nicholls St. 64, Texas Southern 5
Northwestern St. 23, Jackson St. 7
Stephen F. Austin 60, Alcorn St. 7

2002 (SLC 6-0)
McNeese St. 52, Grambling 20
Northwestern St. 30, Southern U. 20
Nicholls St. 21, Southern U. 13
Texas St. 17, Texas Southern 10
Sam Houston St. 45, Mississippi Val. 7
Jacksonville St. 20, Alabama A&M 17

2001 (SLC 4-1)
Grambling 37, Nicholls St. 28
Northwestern St. 30, Southern U. 21
McNeese St. 56, Prairie View 0
Sam Houston St. 68, Mississippi Val. 13
McNeese St. 54, Alcorn St. 14

2000 (SLC 5-0)
Northwestern St. 31, Southern U. 20
McNeese St. 41, Prairie View 0
Troy 62, Alabama St. 19
Troy 28, Alabama A&M 13
McNeese St. 41, Alcorn St. 12

1999 (SWAC 2-1)
Southern U. 20, Northwestern St. 13
Troy 27, Alabama St. 20
Alabama A&M 37, Jacksonville St. 20

1998 (SLC 3-0)
Northwestern St. 28, Southern U. 7
Nicholls St. 41, Mississippi Val. 26
Troy 26, Alabama St. 0

1997 (SLC 3-2)
Southern U. 27, Northwestern St. 9
Southern U. 21, Nicholls St. 14
Sam Houston St. 40, Texas Southern 7
Troy 20, Alabama St. 13
Troy 30, Alcorn St. 0


When you go to current SWAC vs. current SLC, the following games are added:

2003 Central Ark. 42, Ark.-Pine Bluff 28
2003 Southeastern La. 64, Prairie View 10
2004 Southeastern La. 33, Mississippi Val. 17
2004 Alcorn St. 33, Southeastern La. 27
2003 Alcorn St. 27, Southeastern La. 24

You also would take away the Troy and Jacksonville St. games to meet the current vs. current criterion. That's 7 SLC wins and 1 SWAC win.

In the current vs. current situation, the Southland's edge is 30-6.

[PNeck19]

OK here goes...

SWAC vs. Southland the last 10 seasons (1997-2006):

Southland 34 wins
SWAC 5 wins

2006 (SLC 1-0)
Texas St. 41, Texas Southern 21

2005 (SLC 3-0)
McNeese St. 46, Texas Southern 28
Southeastern La. 38, Mississippi Val. 21
Southeastern La. 48, Alcorn St. 21

2004 (SLC 4-0)
McNeese St. 35, Southern U. 17
Northwestern St. 52, Texas Southern 6
Nicholls St. 21, Texas Southern 6
Northwestern St. 28, Jackson St. 20

2003 (SLC 4-0)
McNeese St. 31, Grambling 20
Nicholls St. 64, Texas Southern 5
Northwestern St. 23, Jackson St. 7
Stephen F. Austin 60, Alcorn St. 7

2002 (SLC 6-0)
McNeese St. 52, Grambling 20
Northwestern St. 30, Southern U. 20
Nicholls St. 21, Southern U. 13
Texas St. 17, Texas Southern 10
Sam Houston St. 45, Mississippi Val. 7
Jacksonville St. 20, Alabama A&M 17

2001 (SLC 4-1)
Grambling 37, Nicholls St. 28
Northwestern St. 30, Southern U. 21
McNeese St. 56, Prairie View 0
Sam Houston St. 68, Mississippi Val. 13
McNeese St. 54, Alcorn St. 14

2000 (SLC 5-0)
Northwestern St. 31, Southern U. 20
McNeese St. 41, Prairie View 0
Troy 62, Alabama St. 19
Troy 28, Alabama A&M 13
McNeese St. 41, Alcorn St. 12

1999 (SWAC 2-1)
Southern U. 20, Northwestern St. 13
Troy 27, Alabama St. 20
Alabama A&M 37, Jacksonville St. 20

1998 (SLC 3-0)
Northwestern St. 28, Southern U. 7
Nicholls St. 41, Mississippi Val. 26
Troy 26, Alabama St. 0

1997 (SLC 3-2)
Southern U. 27, Northwestern St. 9
Southern U. 21, Nicholls St. 14
Sam Houston St. 40, Texas Southern 7
Troy 20, Alabama St. 13
Troy 30, Alcorn St. 0


When you go to current SWAC vs. current SLC, the following games are added:

2003 Central Ark. 42, Ark.-Pine Bluff 28
2003 Southeastern La. 64, Prairie View 10
2004 Southeastern La. 33, Mississippi Val. 17
2004 Alcorn St. 33, Southeastern La. 27
2003 Alcorn St. 27, Southeastern La. 24

You also would take away the Troy and Jacksonville St. games to meet the current vs. current criterion. That's 7 SLC wins and 1 SWAC win.

In the current vs. current situation, the Southland's edge is 30-6.

[PNeck19]

One more note.

The worst record of any SLC team in this period was .500.
The best record of any SWAC team was .333.

1. McNeese St. 8-0
2. Troy 6-0
3. Sam Houston St. 3-0
4t. Southeastern La. 2-0
4t. Texas St. 2-0
6. Stephen F. Austin 1-0
7. Northwestern St. 7-2
8. Nicholls St. 4-2
9. Jacksonville St. 1-1
10. Southern U. 3-6
11t. Alabama A&M 1-2
11t. Grambling 1-2
13t. Jackson St. 0-2
13t. Prairie View 0-2
15t. Alabama St. 0-4
15t. Mississippi Val. 0-4
17. Alcorn St. 0-5
18. Texas Southern 0-7

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

One more note.

The worst record of any SLC team in this period was .500.
The best record of any SWAC team was .333.

1. McNeese St. 8-0
2. Troy 6-0
3. Sam Houston St. 3-0
4t. Southeastern La. 2-0
4t. Texas St. 2-0
6. Stephen F. Austin 1-0
7. Northwestern St. 7-2
8. Nicholls St. 4-2
9. Jacksonville St. 1-1
10. Southern U. 3-6
11t. Alabama A&M 1-2
11t. Grambling 1-2
13t. Jackson St. 0-2
13t. Prairie View 0-2
15t. Alabama St. 0-4
15t. Mississippi Val. 0-4
17. Alcorn St. 0-5
18. Texas Southern 0-7
Great research :thumbsup: . Good info :thumbsup: .

[*****]

DANG!

[TexasTerror]

Great research :thumbsup: . Good info :thumbsup: .

I agree...xsmileyclapx

The results don't tell us anything we don't know...xcoffeex

SLC and SWAC need to play more often so we all avoid getting stuck with these sub-Div I games due to FCS schools around the nation messing up our schedule (thanks Missouri St!)...it would go a long way in helping SLC get closer to playoff-eligible with seven Div I wins...:)

[Frosty The Snowbuff]

If these are accurate (and for PV's sake, they are lol because I recall that tie to SFA in the early 80s lol), can you say "owned?" :( :nonono2:

Thx 4 D 411.

I might have typed that wrong being my teacher was cussing me out in class for looking at information during database class (the things I do for a 2nd degree...seesh :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

Here's where I found that bit of info:

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/southland/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=185

If I typed that wrong I apologize....

[Frosty The Snowbuff]

what about the wins Grambling had against Nicholls and NWst?

Those were before we joined the Southland....

Grambling beat us 14-13 in 1974 :o ....We didn't join the Southland until 1987.

Also, Grambling also beat Nichollis State 33-15 in 1982. But Nichollis didn't join the Southland until 1992.....

The wins count on record....but not against us as Southland Conference Members. Therefore, I did not list them. Nothing against the SWAC.

There may be a few other SWAC vs Southland matchups not included in that list.....I just listed the ones played as the teams were members of their respective conferences....(Also, to the person who took the time to look up he past 10 years...thanks...I was gonna do that BUT as I mentioned in my other post...I had no time because I was getting fussed at)

I need a job....