Best in Playoffs (Revisited)

[OL FU]

A few years ago I calculated a ranking of the best programs in the history of the playoffs. I passed the job over to one of my W&M friends (I can't remember which one) who has either left us or forgot about the responsibility he so gladly agreed to take:p :D

Any way I have recreated (for better or worse) and hear it is. (I will explain the rationale and run some different variations for trending purposes.)

1 Georgia Southern 650
2 Youngstown St 440
3 Montana 435
4 Marshall 385
5 Eastern Kentucky 380
6 Furman 325
7 Appalachian State 290
8 Northern Iowa 255
9 Delaware 245
10 McNeese St 205
11 Massachusetts 185
12 Nevada 180
13 Boise St 160
14 Western Kentucky 145
15 Idaho 125
16 Florida A&M 120
17 James Madison 120
18 Lehigh 105
19 Middle Tennessee St 105
20 Southern Illinois 105
21 Stephen F. Austin 100
22 Louisiana Monroe 95
23 Troy 95
24 Western Illinois 95
25 Colgate 90
26 Montana St 90
27 Eastern Illinois 85
28 Arkansas St 80
29 William & Mary 80
30 Jackson St 75
31 Louisiana Tech 75
32 Eastern Washington 70
33 Grambling 70
34 Idaho St 70
35 Northwestern St 65
36 Villanova 65
37 Tennessee St 60
38 New Hampshire 55
39 Richmond 55
40 Sam Houston St 55
41 Illinois St 50
42 Rhode Island 50
43 Western Carolina 50
44 Boston U 45
45 Hofstra 45
46 Maine 45
47 Murray St 45
48 South Carolina St 40
49 Central Florida 35
50 Samford 35
51 Florida Atlantic 30
52 North Carolina A&T 30
53 Northern Arizona 30
54 Texas St 30
55 Wofford 30
56 Citadel 25
57 Hampton 25
58 Indiana St 25
59 Nicholls St 25
60 North Texas 25
61 Alcorn St 20
62 Missouri St 20
63 Weber ST 20
64 Cal Poly 15
65 Connecticut 15
66 East Tennessee St 15
67 Fordham 15
68 Lafayette 15
69 Bethune Cookman 10
70 Holy Cross 10
71 Jacksonville St 10
72 Akron 5
73 Chattanooga 5
74 Coastal Carolina 5
75 Howard 5
76 Mississippi Valley 5
77 Northeastern 5
78 Portland St 5
79 Tennessee Martin 5

[OL FU]

The methodology is simple. Points for playing in first round, quarter-finals, semi-finals, championship and winning the championship are 5,10,15,20 and 20, respectively. In earlier years, where a fewer number of teams participated, the schools were credited only for the games they played. For example, during the first years only 4 teams participated. The first round games were credited like the quarter finals in later years (15 points). However the most points a champion could acheive is 55 points versuse 70 using the present brackets because the earlier games played few rounds.

This might be a problem as it weighs winning the championship more than appearing numerous times in the playoffs. ( personally I think that is ok). Therefore, one team could make one appearance in the playoffs, win it all and have 70 points. While another team could appear 14 times, never win a game and have the same number of points.

Obviously the rankings favor programs that have been in FCS the longest. It also includes programs that have left FCS (Marshall is number even though they have not been in our division for 10 plus years).

Suggestions are appreciated

[crunifan]

Well what do you know. Look at what team is the highest without a national championship!

Hint...#8!

[lizrdgizrd]

Obviously the rankings favor programs that have been in FCS the longest. It also includes programs that have left FCS (Marshall is number even though they have not been in our division for 10 plus years).

Suggestions are appreciated

What about averaging the points by the number of years in FCS? That should be fairly simple. Not as a replacement but as another way to look at the data.

[OL FU]

Well what do you know. Look at what team is the highest without a national championship!

Hint...#8!

The last time I did this (after 2004) that honor went to McNeese , but your run in 2005 now places you at the top of the no champ teams:nod:


It is bound to change one of these days.

[lizrdgizrd]

The last time I did this (after 2004) that honor went to McNeese , but your run in 2005 now places you at the top of the no champ teams:nod:


It is bound to change one of these days.
What, you think someone else will take over the honor by earning more points? xlolx

[OL FU]

What, you think someone else will take over the honor by earning more points? xlolx

Hell Yeah
McNeese won't stay down forever.

[OL FU]

What about averaging the points by the number of years in FCS? That should be fairly simple. Not as a replacement but as another way to look at the data.

:nod: OK, provide to me the number of years in the FCS for each team and I will do the division:smiley_wi

[crunifan]

UNI is making the playoffs next year. They won't pass us next year. We won't let them!

If we haven't won the trophy at least we can take pride in knowing we are the best team without the trophy, haha!

[Tod]

I've been saying for years that UNI and McNeese are the two best non-champ teams in the nation, and I guess this proves I was right. :nod: :nod: :nod:

Actually, ASU was in that category at the time, but obviously came off.

Not that you had to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. :p

I wonder what the list would look like (and what the BSC would look like, and what Montana would look like), if your number 12, 13 and 15 teams were still FCS.

[Tod]

Actually, shouldn't teams that are tied have the same ranking?

25 Colgate 90
26 Montana St 90

Shouldn't they both be 25, or higher if there are other ties ahead of them?

[OL FU]

Actually, shouldn't teams that are tied have the same ranking?

25 Colgate 90
26 Montana St 90

Shouldn't they both be 25, or higher if there are other ties ahead of them?

They should. But I only have enough energy to to the research and the math, not to figure out how to get excel to do that for me:smiley_wi

[OL FU]

Some big changes from the all-time list . Montana moves to the top. Furman takes a good tumble. and EKU moves to the middle of the pack.



1 Montana 395
2 Youngstown St 345
3 Georgia Southern 305
4 Marshall 270
5 Appalachian State 245
6 Delaware 210
7 McNeese St 200
8 Northern Iowa 180
9 Massachusetts 140
10 Furman 130
11 Western Kentucky 125
12 James Madison 100
13 Troy 95
14 Western Illinois 85
15 Colgate 70
16 Florida A&M 65
17 Eastern Washington 55
18 Lehigh 55
19 Villanova 55
20 William & Mary 55
21 Boise St 50
22 Illinois St 50
23 New Hampshire 50
24 Northwestern St 50
25 Hofstra 45
26 Idaho 45
27 Sam Houston St 45
28 Southern Illinois 40
29 Eastern Illinois 35
30 Eastern Kentucky 35
31 Maine 35
32 Richmond 35
33 Stephen F. Austin 35
34 Florida Atlantic 30
35 Northern Arizona 30
36 Texas St 30
37 Wofford 30
38 Hampton 25
39 Montana St 25
40 Murray St 25
41 North Carolina A&T 25
42 Boston U 20
43 Louisiana Monroe 20
44 Middle Tennessee St 20
45 Cal Poly 15
46 Citadel 15
47 Connecticut 15
48 East Tennessee St 15
49 Fordham 15
50 Jackson St 15
51 Lafayette 15
52 Alcorn St 10
53 Bethune Cookman 10
54 Jacksonville St 10
55 Nicholls St 10
56 Tennessee St 10
57 Central Florida 5
58 Coastal Carolina 5
59 Howard 5
60 North Texas 5
61 Northeastern 5
62 Portland St 5
63 Samford 5
64 Tennessee Martin 5

[Tod]

They should. But I only have enough energy to to the research and the math, not to figure out how to get excel to do that for me:smiley_wi

Can't help ya there. :o :o

Great list. It's a very interesting study. Hard to look away. :thumbsup:

[bobbythekidd]

:nod: OK, provide to me the number of years in the FCS for each team and I will do the division:smiley_wi
I'll try to look it up tonight if you think it is worth getting. Let me know.

[OL FU]

I'll try to look it up tonight if you think it is worth getting. Let me know.

Let's see what others say. Me I am less interested in that data but that could be Old Guard bias on my partxlolx

But if you do look it up it would be easy for me to plug in

[OL FU]

Ten years always seems to be a good measurement period. Any body wann guess at who would be number one in the most recent five years:rolleyes: :D

1 Georgia Southern 275
2 Montana 240
3 Appalachian State 210
4 Youngstown St 155
5 Delaware 145
6 Massachusetts 140
7 McNeese St 125
8 Western Kentucky 125
9 Furman 115
10 Northern Iowa 95
11 James Madison 80
12 Western Illinois 80
13 Colgate 70
14 Florida A&M 60
15 Lehigh 55
16 Eastern Washington 50
17 Illinois St 50
18 Northwestern St 50
19 Villanova 45
20 New Hampshire 45
21 Sam Houston St 45
22 Hofstra 40
23 Southern Illinois 40
24 William & Mary 35
25 Maine 35
26 Richmond 35
27 Florida Atlantic 30
28 Texas St 30
29 Wofford 30
30 Troy 25
31 Eastern Illinois 25
32 Northern Arizona 25
33 Hampton 25
34 Montana St 25
35 North Carolina A&T 20
36 Cal Poly 15
37 Connecticut 15
38 Fordham 15
39 Lafayette 15
40 Bethune Cookman 10
41 Jacksonville St 10
42 Tennessee St 10
43 Eastern Kentucky 5
44 Murray St 5
45 Jackson St 5
46 Nicholls St 5
47 Coastal Carolina 5
48 Northeastern 5
49 Portland St 5
50 Tennessee Martin 5

[Go...gate]

Nice work!!! :thumbsup:

[OL FU]

1 Appalachian State 145
2 Montana 105
3 Western Kentucky 90
4 Delaware 85
5 James Madison 75
6 Northern Iowa 65
7 McNeese St 60
8 Massachusetts 55
9 Furman 55
10 Colgate 55
11 New Hampshire 45
12 Georgia Southern 40
13 Southern Illinois 40
14 Youngstown St 30
15 Western Illinois 30
16 Villanova 30
17 Sam Houston St 30
18 William & Mary 30
19 Florida Atlantic 30
20 Texas St 30
21 Wofford 30
22 Montana St 25
23 Eastern Washington 20
24 Maine 20
25 Illinois St 15
26 Richmond 15
27 Eastern Illinois 15
28 Northern Arizona 15
29 Hampton 15
30 Cal Poly 15
31 Fordham 15
32 Lafayette 15
33 Northwestern St 10
34 Bethune Cookman 10
35 Jacksonville St 10
36 Lehigh 5
37 North Carolina A&T 5
38 Murray St 5
39 Nicholls St 5
40 Coastal Carolina 5
41 Northeastern 5
42 Tennessee Martin 5

[OL FU]

One thing to consider is, does the analysis award enough points for winning the championship. I was surprised that ASU was still behind Furman. The reason is Furman as been in the playoffs more often and has advanced farther more often. But there is something to be said for two championships versus one.

[NE MT GRIZZ]

Griz stay at the top regardless of era.:thumbsup:

[OL FU]

Griz stay at the top regardless of era.:thumbsup:

If I did the first ten years of FCS football, where do you think you would be:smiley_wi

[bobbythekidd]

But if you do look it up it would be easy for me to plug in
I am not going to look all that up unless it is worth something to the discussion. Thats alot to look up.:nod:

[Mountaineer]

One thing to consider is, does the analysis award enough points for winning the championship. I was surprised that ASU was still behind Furman. The reason is Furman as been in the playoffs more often and has advanced farther more often. But there is something to be said for two championships versus one.

I actually like the way you have it. :nod: Obviously I'd like App to be slightly higher, but the points from winning it all seems fair to me.

Obviously, Furman has done quite well in in the playoffs and advancing to further rounds - which is a mark up consistency. :rotateh: :twocents:

It'd be interesting to crunch the numbers a different way and come up with a list of futility (reverse point format - more points for earlier rounds, etc). Hehe. :p :thumbsup:

[TexasTerror]

You gave credit to SFA for the year they went all the way to the championship game and then later had to forfeit all those games?

[NE MT GRIZZ]

If I did the first ten years of FCS football, where do you think you would be:smiley_wi

That was a low blow:eek:

Our 2 titles make up for the 1st 10 years:hurray:

[OL FU]

I am not going to look all that up unless it is worth something to the discussion. Thats alot to look up.:nod:

It is a lot to look up. My answer , I don't think so.

[OL FU]

You gave credit to SFA for the year they went all the way to the championship game and then later had to forfeit all those games?

That is an interesting issue. I did give them credit. If I don't, then how should I handle? Just eliminate SFA's points. Give extra points to the teams they beat. For example, for that year Furman would have made it to the NC game again if SFA had forfeited ahead of time. Should FU get extra points?

I am not sure how to handle that but I think that maybe SFA's points should be eliminated for that year. Agree?

[OL FU]

You gave credit to SFA for the year they went all the way to the championship game and then later had to forfeit all those games?

It would now look like

39 SHSU 55
40 SFA 50

Looks better :nod: :smiley_wi

[Mr. C]

I hate revisionist history. What happened on the field happened. No need to change it. We all know that a lot of programs have cheated, some have just been caught and others haven't. Take Marshall, for example. They had major violations, but never had any of their titles, or final appearances vacated. Yet we all know they were breaking the rules during their run of success. If you take out SFA's results, you open a huge can of worms.

The ultimate hypocracy for me is that the NCAA has forced Michigan basketball to remove all mention of the Fab Five era from its program, yet how often do you see that Michigan-North Carolina championship being replayed on ESPN Classic? Guess who is getting money from that every time it plays?

[AZGrizFan]

The methodology is simple. Points for playing in first round, quarter-finals, semi-finals, championship and winning the championship are 5,10,15,20 and 20, respectively. In earlier years, where a fewer number of teams participated, the schools were credited only for the games they played. For example, during the first years only 4 teams participated. The first round games were credited like the quarter finals in later years (15 points). However the most points a champion could acheive is 55 points versuse 70 using the present brackets because the earlier games played few rounds.

This might be a problem as it weighs winning the championship more than appearing numerous times in the playoffs. ( personally I think that is ok). Therefore, one team could make one appearance in the playoffs, win it all and have 70 points. While another team could appear 14 times, never win a game and have the same number of points.

Obviously the rankings favor programs that have been in FCS the longest. It also includes programs that have left FCS (Marshall is number even though they have not been in our division for 10 plus years).

Suggestions are appreciated

I'm sure points are deducted for a team having home playoff games unfairly awarded to them? :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :o :p : smh : : smh : : smh :

[OL FU]

I'm sure points are deducted for a team having home playoff games unfairly awarded to them? :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :o :p : smh : : smh : : smh :

Too Subjective for this boys taste:smiley_wi

[Eyes of Old Main]

I like how everytime you rerun the numbers, Wofford moves up. But, our one year in the sun won't keep us on this forever. Hopefully, this year will add to that.

But, any all-time list that has us above El Cid is good in my book. By the way, sorry Citdog, you aren't passing us this year or anytime soon.



55 Wofford 30
56 Citadel 25

[OL FU]

I like how everytime you rerun the numbers, Wofford moves up. But, our one year in the sun won't keep us on this forever. Hopefully, this year will add to that.

But, any all-time list that has us above El Cid is good in my book. By the way, sorry Citdog, you aren't passing us this year or anytime soon.

Citdog is still looking for 1990 deja vu

[appfan2008]

I think the national title should be awarded with more points...
why not 5,10,15,20 and then 30 for the title.
That is the goal so it should be awarded with adequate points

[lizrdgizrd]

It is a lot to look up. My answer , I don't think so.
I think it might give us an idea of how newer programs stack up to the "old guard". I'll work on it when I have time today and get back to you. :thumbsup:

[Death Dealer]

Citdog is still looking for 1990 deja vu

That's gonna be a long search!xlolx I bet he could find Hoffa more quickly!:rolleyes:

[Eyes of Old Main]

That's gonna be a long search!xlolx I bet he could find Hoffa more quickly!:rolleyes:

I was thinking the same thing.

[BrevardMountaineer03]

I think you have a great set of data. I think you should publish all the 'possible' combinations. Great study, thanks for sharing.

[blackfordpu]

That is an interesting issue. I did give them credit. If I don't, then how should I handle? Just eliminate SFA's points. Give extra points to the teams they beat. For example, for that year Furman would have made it to the NC game again if SFA had forfeited ahead of time. Should FU get extra points?

I am not sure how to handle that but I think that maybe SFA's points should be eliminated for that year. Agree?

Sounds just about right to me.

[Tod]

I think the national title should be awarded with more points...
why not 5,10,15,20 and then 30 for the title.
That is the goal so it should be awarded with adequate points

Always a tough call. I mean would you rather have an NC, and a playoff appearance (loss), or two runners up?

But the runners up would have 40, and the NC team would have 35.

It's hard to calculate the NC part, IMHO. :confused:

[Tod]

If I did the first ten years of FCS football, where do you think you would be:smiley_wi

I wish you would. Without looking it up, I think the Griz would be in sixth place out of current and former Big Sky teams. ISU, MSU, and (I think) Boise State won NC's in the first ten years, and Idaho and Nevada (-Reno) made a lot more noise than the Griz did back then.

Man, we had a good conference back then. Too bad the Griz weren't part of that excellence. xlolx xlolx :( ;)

[Mountaineer]

Here are the years each of the teams with points have been in the FCS (I-AA). It's still in order from GSU to Tenn-M.

1984-Current (23)
1981-Current (26)
1978-Current (29)
1982-1996 (14)
1978-Current (29)
1982-Current (25)
1982-Current (25)
1981-Current (26)
1980-Current (27)
1982-Current (25)
1978-Current (29)
1978-1991 (13)
1978-1998 (20)
1978-2006 (28)
1978-1996 (18)
1979-Current (28)
1980-Current (27)
1978-Current (29)
1978-1998 (20)
1982-Current (25)
1986-Current (21)
1982-1993 (11)
1993-2001 (8)
1981-Current (26)
1982-Current (25)
1978-Current (29)
1981-Current (26)
1982-1991 (9)
1982-Current (25)
1978-Current (29)
1982-1986 (4)
1984-Current (23)
1978-Current (29)
1978-Current (29)
1978-Current (29)
1987-Current (20)
1981-Current (26)
1978-Current (29)
1982-Current (25)
1986-Current (21)
1982-Current (25)
1978-Current (29)
1982-Current (25)
1978-1997 (19)
1993-Current (24)
1978-Current (29)
1978-Current (29)
1978, 1980-Current (28)
1990-1995 (5)
1989-Current (18)
2001-2004 (3)
1978, 1980-Current (28)
1978-CUrrent (29)
1984-Current (23)
1995-Current (12)
1982-Current (25)
1997-Current (10)
1982-CUrrent (25)
1980-Current (27)
1982-1994 (12)
1978-Current (29)
1982-Current (25)
1978-Current (29)
1994-Current (13)
1978-2001 (23)
1982-2003 (21)
1989-Current (18)
1978-Current (29)
1980-Current (27)
1982-Current (25)
1997-Current (10)
1980-1986 (6)
1982-Current (25)
2003-Current (4)
1978, 1980-Current (28)
1980-Current (27)
1978-Current (29)
1978-1980, 1998-Current (11)
1992-Current (15)

[Mountaineer]

Average points each team has earned per year they've been in the division.

1-1 Georgia Southern 28.26
2-4 Marshall 27.50
3-31 Louisiana Tech 18.75
4-2 Youngstown St 16.92
5-3 Montana 15.00
6-12 Nevada 13.85
7-5 Eastern Kentucky 13.10
8-6 Furman 13.00
9-23 Troy 11.88
10-7 Appalachian State 11.60
11-51 Florida Atlantic 10.00
12-8 Northern Iowa 9.81
13-9 Delaware 9.07
14-28 Arkansas St 8.89
15-22 Louisiana Monroe 8.64
16-10 McNeese St 8.20
17-13 Boise St 8.00
18-49 Central Florida 7.00
19-15 Idaho 6.94
20-11 Massachusetts 6.38
21-19 Middle Tennessee St 5.25
22-14 Western Kentucky 5.18
23-21 Stephen F. Austin 4.76
24-17 James Madison 4.44
25-16 Florida A&M 4.29
26-20 Southern Illinois 4.20
27-24 Western Illinois 3.65
28-18 Lehigh 3.62
29-25 Colgate 3.60
30-27 Eastern Illinois 3.27
31-36 Villanova 3.25
32-29 William & Mary 3.20
33-26 Montana St 3.10
34-32 Eastern Washington 3.04
35-40 Sam Houston St 2.62
36-30 Jackson St 2.59
37-57 Hampton 2.50
38-55 Wofford 2.50
39-34 Idaho St 2.41
40-33 Grambling 2.41
41-44 Boston U 2.37
42-37 Tennessee St 2.31
43-35 Northwestern St 2.24
44-39 Richmond 2.20
45-60 North Texas 2.08
46-43 Western Carolina 2.00
47-41 Illinois St 2.00
48-50 Samford 1.94
49-38 New Hampshire 1.90
50-45 Hofstra 1.88
51-42 Rhode Island 1.72
52-47 Murray St 1.55
53-46 Maine 1.55
54-48 South Carolina St 1.43
55-54 Texas St 1.30
56-74 Coastal Carolina 1.25
57-64 Cal Poly 1.15
58-52 North Carolina A&T 1.07
59-53 Northern Arizona 1.03
60-71 Jacksonville St 1.00
61-58 Indiana St 1.00
62-56 Citadel 1.00
63-59 Nicholls St 0.93
64-72 Akron 0.83
65-67 Fordham 0.83
66-62 Missouri St 0.80
67-66 East Tennessee 0.71
68-63 Weber ST 0.69
69-61 Alcorn St 0.69
70-65 Connecticut 0.65
71-68 Lafayette 0.52
72-78 Portland St 0.45
73-70 Holy Cross 0.40
74-69 Bethune Cookman 0.37
75-79 Tennessee Martin 0.33
76-73 Chattanooga 0.20
77-76 Mississippi Valley 0.19
78-75 Howard 0.18
79-77 Northeastern 0.17

[OL FU]

Average points each team has earned per year they've been in the division.

1-1 Georgia Southern 28.26
2-4 Marshall 27.50
3-31 Louisiana Tech 18.75
4-2 Youngstown St 16.92
5-3 Montana 15.00
6-12 Nevada 13.85
7-5 Eastern Kentucky 13.10
8-6 Furman 13.00
9-23 Troy 11.88
10-7 Appalachian State 11.60
11-51 Florida Atlantic 10.00
12-8 Northern Iowa 9.81
13-9 Delaware 9.07
14-28 Arkansas St 8.89
15-22 Louisiana Monroe 8.64
16-10 McNeese St 8.20
17-13 Boise St 8.00
18-49 Central Florida 7.00
19-15 Idaho 6.94
20-11 Massachusetts 6.38
21-19 Middle Tennessee St 5.25
22-14 Western Kentucky 5.18
23-21 Stephen F. Austin 4.76
24-17 James Madison 4.44
25-16 Florida A&M 4.29
26-20 Southern Illinois 4.20
27-24 Western Illinois 3.65
28-18 Lehigh 3.62
29-25 Colgate 3.60
30-27 Eastern Illinois 3.27
31-36 Villanova 3.25
32-29 William & Mary 3.20
33-26 Montana St 3.10
34-32 Eastern Washington 3.04
35-40 Sam Houston St 2.62
36-30 Jackson St 2.59
37-57 Hampton 2.50
38-55 Wofford 2.50
39-34 Idaho St 2.41
40-33 Grambling 2.41
41-44 Boston U 2.37
42-37 Tennessee St 2.31
43-35 Northwestern St 2.24
44-39 Richmond 2.20
45-60 North Texas 2.08
46-43 Western Carolina 2.00
47-41 Illinois St 2.00
48-50 Samford 1.94
49-38 New Hampshire 1.90
50-45 Hofstra 1.88
51-42 Rhode Island 1.72
52-47 Murray St 1.55
53-46 Maine 1.55
54-48 South Carolina St 1.43
55-54 Texas St 1.30
56-74 Coastal Carolina 1.25
57-64 Cal Poly 1.15
58-52 North Carolina A&T 1.07
59-53 Northern Arizona 1.03
60-71 Jacksonville St 1.00
61-58 Indiana St 1.00
62-56 Citadel 1.00
63-59 Nicholls St 0.93
64-72 Akron 0.83
65-67 Fordham 0.83
66-62 Missouri St 0.80
67-66 East Tennessee 0.71
68-63 Weber ST 0.69
69-61 Alcorn St 0.69
70-65 Connecticut 0.65
71-68 Lafayette 0.52
72-78 Portland St 0.45
73-70 Holy Cross 0.40
74-69 Bethune Cookman 0.37
75-79 Tennessee Martin 0.33
76-73 Chattanooga 0.20
77-76 Mississippi Valley 0.19
78-75 Howard 0.18
79-77 Northeastern 0.17


Very nice, do you want to take my long lost Tribe friends place and be the keep of the schedule:eyebrow: :)

[OL FU]

I wish you would. Without looking it up, I think the Griz would be in sixth place out of current and former Big Sky teams. ISU, MSU, and (I think) Boise State won NC's in the first ten years, and Idaho and Nevada (-Reno) made a lot more noise than the Griz did back then.

Man, we had a good conference back then. Too bad the Griz weren't part of that excellence. xlolx xlolx :( ;)

1 Eastern Kentucky 275
2 Georgia Southern 155
3 Nevada 115
4 Arkansas St 80
5 Furman 80
6 Boise St 75
7 Louisiana Tech 75
8 Idaho St 70
9 Louisiana Monroe 70
10 Grambling 65
11 Montana St 65
12 Southern Illinois 65
13 Florida A&M 55
14 Northern Iowa 55
15 Lehigh 50
16 Marshall 50
17 Rhode Island 50
18 Tennessee St 50
19 Western Carolina 50
20 Jackson St 45
21 Middle Tennessee St 40
22 South Carolina St 40
23 Appalachian State 35
24 Eastern Illinois 35
25 Massachusetts 35
26 Idaho 30
27 Boston U 25
28 Delaware 25
29 Indiana St 25
30 Colgate 20
31 Murray St 20
32 Richmond 20
33 Eastern Washington 15
34 Nicholls St 15
35 North Texas 15
36 Weber ST 15
37 Alcorn St 10
38 Holy Cross 10
39 Akron 5
40 Chattanooga 5
41 James Madison 5
42 Maine 5
43 Mississippi Valley 5
44 Montana 545 North Carolina A&T 5
46 Sam Houston St 5
47 Western Kentucky 5
48 William & Mary 5
49 Youngstown St 5

I think you have made up for it though:nod:

Come back EKU:eek:

[Mountaineer]

OL FU turned over the reigns of this thing to me. Guess I'm now the data keeper. xlolx :D

So I went back and double checked all the playoff brackets and found a few errors. Notably was a victory given to Eastern Kentucky instead of Boise St in 1980. I also found another 50 points for Delaware who were completely left out of 1982 (Grambling was credited).

I also upped the winning a national championship another 5 points to 25 - it now goes 5(1ST)-10(QF)-15(SF)-20(CH)-25(WCH). Everything else was left the same.

[Mountaineer]

All-time

1 Georgia Southern 680
2 Youngstown St 460
3 Montana 445
4 Marshall 395
5 Eastern Kentucky 375
6 Furman 340
7 Appalachian State 300
8 Delaware 300
9 Northern Iowa 260
10 McNeese St 205
11 Massachusetts 190
12 Nevada 185
13 Boise St 170
14 Western Kentucky 150
15 Florida A&M 125
16 Idaho 125
17 James Madison 125
18 Southern Illinois 115
19 Middle Tennessee St 110
20 Lehigh 105
22 Louisiana Monroe 100
23 Montana St 100
24 Stephen F. Austin* 100
25 Arkansas St 95
26 Troy 95
27 Western Illinois 95
28 Colgate 90
29 Eastern Illinois 85
30 Louisiana Tech 80
31 William & Mary 80
32 Idaho St 75
33 Jackson St 75
34 Eastern Washington 70
35 Northwestern St 65
36 Tennessee St 65
37 Villanova 65
38 New Hampshire 55
39 Rhode Island 55
40 Richmond 55
41 Sam Houston St 55
42 Illinois St 50
43 Western Carolina 50
44 Boston U 45
45 Hofstra 45
46 Murray St 45
47 Maine 40
48 South Carolina St 40
49 Central Florida 35
50 Samford 35
51 Florida Atlantic 30
52 Indiana St 30
53 North Carolina A&T 30
54 North Texas 30
55 Northern Arizona 30
56 Texas St 30
57 Wofford 30
58 Alcorn St 25
59 Citadel 25
60 Grambling 25
61 Hampton 25
62 Nicholls St 25
63 Missouri St 20
64 Weber St 20
65 Cal Poly 15
66 Connecticut 15
67 East Tennessee St 15
68 Fordham 15
69 Holy Cross 15
70 Lafayette 15
71 Bethune Cookman 10
72 Jacksonville St 10
73 Akron 5
74 Chattanooga 5
75 Coastal Carolina 5
76 Howard 5
77 Mississippi Valley 5
78 Northeastern 5
79 Portland St 5
80 Tennessee Martin 5

[Mountaineer]

Last 15 Years

1 Montana 405
2 Youngstown St 360
3 Georgia Southern 315
4 Marshall 280
5 Appalachian State 255
6 Delaware 215
7 McNeese St 200
8 Northern Iowa 180
9 Massachusetts 145
10 Western Kentucky 130
11 Furman 130
12 James Madison 105
13 Troy 95
14 Western Illinois 85
15 Colgate 70
16 Florida A&M 65
17 William & Mary 55
18 Villanova 55
19 Lehigh 55
20 Eastern Washington 55
21 Northwestern St 50
22 New Hampshire 50
23 Illinois St 50
24 Boise St 50
25 Sam Houston St 45
26 Idaho 45
27 Hofstra 45
28 Southern Illinois 40
29 Stephen F. Austin* 35
30 Richmond 35
31 Eastern Kentucky 35
32 Eastern Illinois 35
33 Wofford 30
34 Texas St 30
35 Northern Arizona 30
36 Maine 30
37 Florida Atlantic 30
38 North Carolina A&T 25
39 Murray St 25
40 Montana St 25
41 Hampton 25
42 Middle Tennessee St 20
43 Louisiana Monroe 20
44 Boston U 20
45 Lafayette 15
46 Jackson St 15
47 Fordham 15
48 East Tennessee St 15
49 Connecticut 15
50 Citadel 15
51 Cal Poly 15
52 Tennessee St 10
53 Nicholls St 10
54 Jacksonville St 10
55 Bethune Cookman 10
56 Alcorn St 10
57 Tennessee Martin 5
58 Samford 5
59 Portland St 5
60 Northeastern 5
61 North Texas 5
62 Howard 5
63 Coastal Carolina 5
64 Central Florida 5
65 Western Carolina 0
66 Weber St 0
67 South Carolina St 0
68 Rhode Island 0
69 Nevada 0
70 Missouri St 0
71 Mississippi Valley 0
72 Louisiana Tech 0
73 Indiana St 0
74 Idaho St 0
75 Holy Cross 0
76 Grambling 0
77 Chattanooga 0
78 Arkansas St 0
79 Akron 0

[OL FU]

OL FU turned over the reigns of this thing to me. Guess I'm now the data keeper. xlolx :D

So I went back and double checked all the playoff brackets and found a few errors. Notably was a victory given to Eastern Kentucky instead of Boise St in 1980. I also found another 50 points for Delaware who were completely left out of 1982 (Grambling was credited).

I also upped the winning a national championship another 5 points to 25 - it now goes 5(1ST)-10(QF)-15(SF)-20(CH)-25(WCH). Everything else was left the same.

My administrative assistant made that mistake:nod:
I shall severely chastise her:smiley_wi

and leaving points off Delaware was not an error:o :D

[Mountaineer]

Last 10

1 Georgia Southern 285
2 Montana 245
3 Appalachian State 220
4 Youngstown St 160
5 Delaware 150
6 Massachusetts 145
7 Western Kentucky 130
8 McNeese St 125
9 Furman 115
10 Northern Iowa 95
11 James Madison 85
12 Western Illinois 80
13 Colgate 70
14 Florida A&M 60
15 Lehigh 55
16 Northwestern St 50
17 Illinois St 50
18 Eastern Washington 50
19 Villanova 45
20 Sam Houston St 45
21 New Hampshire 45
22 Southern Illinois 40
23 Hofstra 40
24 William & Mary 35
25 Richmond 35
26 Wofford 30
27 Texas St 30
28 Maine 30
29 Florida Atlantic 30
30 Troy 25
31 Northern Arizona 25
32 Montana St 25
33 Hampton 25
34 Eastern Illinois 25
35 North Carolina A&T 20
36 Lafayette 15
37 Fordham 15
38 Connecticut 15
39 Cal Poly 15
40 Tennessee St 10
41 Jacksonville St 10
42 Bethune Cookman 10
43 Tennessee Martin 5
44 Portland St 5
45 Northeastern 5
46 Nicholls St 5
47 Murray St 5
48 Jackson St 5
49 Eastern Kentucky 5
50 Coastal Carolina 5
51 Western Carolina 0
52 Weber St 0
53 Stephen F. Austin* 0
54 South Carolina St 0
55 Samford 0
56 Rhode Island 0
57 North Texas 0
58 Nevada 0
59 Missouri St 0
60 Mississippi Valley 0
61 Middle Tennessee St 0
62 Marshall 0
63 Louisiana Tech 0
64 Louisiana Monroe 0
65 Indiana St 0
66 Idaho St 0
67 Idaho 0
68 Howard 0
69 Holy Cross 0
70 Grambling 0
71 East Tennessee St 0
72 Citadel 0
73 Chattanooga 0
74 Central Florida 0
75 Boston U 0
76 Boise St 0
77 Arkansas St 0
78 Alcorn St 0
79 Akron 0

[Mountaineer]

Last 5 Years

1 Appalachian State 155
2 Montana 105
3 Western Kentucky 95
4 Delaware 90
5 James Madison 80
6 Northern Iowa 65
7 McNeese St 60
8 Massachusetts 55
9 Furman 55
10 Colgate 55
11 New Hampshire 45
12 Southern Illinois 40
13 Georgia Southern 40
14 Youngstown St 30
15 Wofford 30
16 William & Mary 30
17 Western Illinois 30
18 Villanova 30
19 Texas St 30
20 Sam Houston St 30
21 Florida Atlantic 30
22 Montana St 25
23 Eastern Washington 20
24 Richmond 15
25 Northern Arizona 15
26 Maine 15
27 Lafayette 15
28 Illinois St 15
29 Hampton 15
30 Fordham 15
31 Eastern Illinois 15
32 Cal Poly 15
33 Northwestern St 10
34 Jacksonville St 10
35 Bethune Cookman 10
36 Tennessee Martin 5
37 Northeastern 5
38 North Carolina A&T 5
39 Nicholls St 5
40 Murray St 5
41 Lehigh 5
42 Coastal Carolina 5
43 Western Carolina 0
44 Weber St 0
45 Troy 0
46 Tennessee St 0
47 Stephen F. Austin* 0
48 South Carolina St 0
49 Samford 0
50 Rhode Island 0
51 Portland St 0
52 North Texas 0
53 Nevada 0
54 Missouri St 0
55 Mississippi Valley 0
56 Middle Tennessee St 0
57 Marshall 0
58 Louisiana Tech 0
59 Louisiana Monroe 0
60 Jackson St 0
61 Indiana St 0
62 Idaho St 0
63 Idaho 0
64 Howard 0
65 Holy Cross 0
66 Hofstra 0
67 Grambling 0
68 Florida A&M 0
69 Eastern Kentucky 0
70 East Tennessee St 0
71 Connecticut 0
72 Citadel 0
73 Chattanooga 0
74 Central Florida 0
75 Boston U 0
76 Boise St 0
77 Arkansas St 0
78 Alcorn St 0
79 Akron 0

[OL FU]

6 Furman 340
7 Appalachian State 300

All is still right in the worldhttp://gprime.net/board/images/smilies/juggle.gif

[Mountaineer]

All is still right in the worldhttp://gprime.net/board/images/smilies/juggle.gif

I'm focusing on the last 5 years myself. :p :D

1. ASU -155
9. Furman - 55

[OL FU]

I'm focusing on the last 5 years myself. :p :D

1. ASU -155
9. Furman - 55

ASU only been playing football the last five years:eek:

I suppose so:smiley_wi

[lizrdgizrd]

ASU only been playing football the last five years:eek:

I suppose so:smiley_wi
Maybe we've been playing for 10 years:

3 Appalachian State 220
9 Furman 115

:p

[OL FU]

Maybe we've been playing for 10 years:

3 Appalachian State 220
9 Furman 115

:p

Isn't nice to know that my problem is typing not spelling:rotateh: xidiotx

[OL FU]

Maybe we've been playing for 10 years:

3 Appalachian State 220
9 Furman 115

:p

We have been playing for over 100:nod:


and are still trying to get it right:smiley_wi

[lizrdgizrd]

We have been playing for over 100:nod:


and are still trying to get it right:smiley_wi
We'd rather get it right quickly! xlolx

[OL FU]

We'd rather get it right quickly! xlolx

I will remind you like I remind Citdog


Furman's all time record against ASU . . . . . 20-11-3

It will take you at lesat nine more years to get it all the way right:p

[lizrdgizrd]

I will remind you like I remind Citdog


Furman's all time record against ASU . . . . . 20-11-3

It will take you at lesat nine more years to get it all the way right:p
That's doable. :thumbsup: :nod:

It took us a little while to get up to speed, but now we're cookin'!

[OL FU]

That's doable. :thumbsup: :nod:

Only if if we play more than once a year:rolleyes:

[lizrdgizrd]

Only if if we play more than once a year:rolleyes:
What, you don't plan on making the playoffs anymore? We do! :hurray: :hurray:

[OL FU]

What, you don't plan on making the playoffs anymore? We do! :hurray: :hurray:

PM when you even the record :nod:

I will be waiting:p

[lizrdgizrd]

PM when you even the record :nod:

I will be waiting:p
And you'll be crying as you read that PM. :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

[OL FU]

And you'll be crying as you read that PM. :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

At my current age, I will have forgotten this three times alreadyxlolx

[lizrdgizrd]

At my current age, I will have forgotten this three times alreadyxlolx
Me too, and I don't have your age as an excuse. :eek: xlolx :bawling:

[PaladinFan]

Looking at all of those lists, I can see why "The Big Three" was a named coined for ASU, GSU, and FU.

OL FU, we have a winning record against ASU and a winning record at KBS. You don't have to be old, though, to forget when the last time was we won in Boone.