2018 NFL Thread

[JSUSoutherner]

Some questions heading into next season:

1.) Will the catch rule be fixed?
2.) Is age going to catch Tom Brady?
3.) Will Jon Gruden live up to the hype?
4.) Will Wilson and Rodgers get some help?
5.) Where will we see Foles, the Vikings QBs, and Cousins all land?
6.) Will the Colts be back in the playoffs next year?
7.) Will the Giants finally get their **** together?
8.) Can the Texans make a Super Bowl run if they stay healthy?
9.) Who is your way-too-early MVP candidate?
10.) Who are your way-too-early Super Bowl teams?



What I think:
1.) They’ll try and make it worse.
2.) Yes.
3.) No.
4.) No.
5.) Foles- Zona, Cousins- Denver, Teddy-Bills, Bradford-Jets, Keenum-Vikings
6.) No.
7.) Yes.
8.) Yes.
9.) Deshaun Watson
10.) Texans-Falcons

[BisonTru]

1. No

2. Kinda, it's already showing, but I don't think he's going anywhere till he has all the passing records.

3. If Carr can stay healthy that team is set to roll. Gruden will get them to at least the playoffs.

4. GB just doesn't seem to give a **** about a rushing game. Rodgers will be back and they will be in the mix. Wilson also needs a running game, but like GB I see him and Aaron shouldering most of the load.

5. Teddy and Case stay in Minnesota, Cousins goes to Arizona, Foles stays in Philly and gets traded mid season to a QB injured team, Bradford to Denver

6. Almost, Luck's just too rusty to get them there.

7. The Giants get healthy they are right back in the mix. Playoffs or near miss.

8. Texans make the playoffs, but no superbowl

9. Wentz

10. Chiefs/Eagles

[JSUSoutherner]

1. No

2. Kinda, it's already showing, but I don't think he's going anywhere till he has all the passing records.

3. If Carr can stay healthy that team is set to roll. Gruden will get them to at least the playoffs.

4. GB just doesn't seem to give a **** about a rushing game. Rodgers will be back and they will be in the mix. Wilson also needs a running game, but like GB I see him and Aaron shouldering most of the load.

5. Teddy and Case stay in Minnesota, Cousins goes to Arizona, Foles stays in Philly and gets traded mid season to a QB injured team, Bradford to Denver

6. Almost, Luck's just too rusty to get them there.

7. The Giants get healthy they are right back in the mix. Playoffs or near miss.

8. Texans make the playoffs, but no superbowl

9. Wentz

10. Chiefs/Eagles

Chiefs is a bold pick.

[BisonTru]

Chiefs is a bold pick.

Mahommes is better than Watson, IMO.

[JSUSoutherner]

Mahommes is better than Watson, IMO.
But is the Chiefs D Better than Houston’s?

[BisonTru]

But is the Chiefs D Better than Houston’s?

About equal there.

The Chiefs running game puts them over the top.

[JSUSoutherner]

About equal there.

The Chiefs running game puts them over the top.
Disagree. Eric Berry will definitely help coming back, but if they don’t get some help up front it won’t matter. Teams that run the ball beat them. Steelers, Eagles, Titans. They all exposed KC.

I’m also kind of banking on the Texans getting Malcolm Butler.

I think the Texans will also make a move for a back in the draft.

[BisonTru]

Disagree. Eric Berry will definitely help coming back, but if they don’t get some help up front it won’t matter. Teams that run the ball beat them. Steelers, Eagles, Titans. They all exposed KC.

I’m also kind of banking on the Texans getting Malcolm Butler.

I think the Texans will also make a move for a back in the draft.

They'll get Dee Ford back as well.

The Eagles got exposed by the Chiefs early on in the season because they couldn't run on KC. KC was a dominate team that fell apart. They keep it together and they could make a run. Also getting rid of Alex Smith relieves their salary cap issues.

[JSUSoutherner]

They'll get Dee Ford back as well.

The Eagles got exposed by the Chiefs early on in the season because they couldn't run on KC. KC was a dominate team that fell apart. They keep it together and they could make a run. Also getting rid of Alex Smith relieves their salary cap issues.
You’re right. For some reason I was thinking the Eagles won that game.

Still, I’m not sold on Mahommes.

[JayJ79]

I'm just hoping David Johnson can have a decent bounceback year.
But I'm not holding my breath. Being out almost a year has its effects.
Plus who knows what the QB and O-line situation in Arizona will be like.
Or how things go with the new coach.

[Gil Dobie]

Some questions heading into next season:

1.) Will the catch rule be fixed? No
2.) Is age going to catch Tom Brady? No
3.) Will Jon Gruden live up to the hype? Yes
4.) Will Wilson and Rodgers get some help? yes
5.) Where will we see Foles, the Vikings QBs, and Cousins all land? Foles - PHilly, Vikings - Keenum, Cousins - Washington
6.) Will the Colts be back in the playoffs next year? No
7.) Will the Giants finally get their **** together? No
8.) Can the Texans make a Super Bowl run if they stay healthy? No
9.) Who is your way-too-early MVP candidate? Rodgers
10.) Who are your way-too-early Super Bowl teams? Jacksonville vs Green Bay or Philly

[TheValleyRaider]

1.) Clearer, perhaps, but it'll be "fixed" right up until it gets tested on the field.

2.) Eventually, but I'm guessing not next year.

3.) Unlikely, but that's due to where the hype is, not Gruden himself.

4.) They'll try, but I think GB believes they are close enough where a few pieces will make a difference.

5.) FA QB Roulette: Cousins to Denver; Bradford to Jacksonville; Bridgewater to NY Jets; Keenum to Minnesota; Foles to Arizona

6.) No. Raiders, Broncos, Chargers, Texans all more likely to make the jump in from being out this year, and that's before the Pats/Steelers/Jags/Chiefs near the top of the AFC.

7.) They'll be better, but almost impossible not to be. Everything broke right to make the playoffs in 2016, everything wrong for this year. Offense can't really be worse, so any improvement combined with healthier receivers means a record around .500. Long term depends on who is the QB after 2018 (Eli this year, then...?)

8.) They can if healthy, but they won't actually stay healthy.

9.) Rodgers

10.) Steelers-Rams

[BisonTru]

Some questions heading into next season:

1.) Will the catch rule be fixed? No
2.) Is age going to catch Tom Brady? No
3.) Will Jon Gruden live up to the hype? Yes
4.) Will Wilson and Rodgers get some help? yes
5.) Where will we see Foles, the Vikings QBs, and Cousins all land? Foles - PHilly, Vikings - Keenum, Cousins - Washington
6.) Will the Colts be back in the playoffs next year? No
7.) Will the Giants finally get their **** together? No
8.) Can the Texans make a Super Bowl run if they stay healthy? No
9.) Who is your way-too-early MVP candidate? Rodgers
10.) Who are your way-too-early Super Bowl teams? Jacksonville vs Green Bay or Philly

You think Washington is going to sign Cousins after they traded for and signed Smith?

What's your thoughts there.


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[Gil Dobie]

You think Washington is going to sign Cousins after they traded for and signed Smith?

What's your thoughts there.


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It's a sticky wicket, especially if the Redskins tag Cousins to get something in return for him.

[Smitty]

It's a sticky wicket, especially if the Redskins tag Cousins to get something in return for him.

Not sure how many would make that trade or if they have the cap room for it... They would be responsible for his 3rd franchise tag cost at first. Then they would need to find a team to take that chunk of money who would then try to sign him to a long term deal.

[Bisonator]

It's a sticky wicket, especially if the Redskins tag Cousins to get something in return for him.
They pretty much screwed themselves by trading for Smith. They wouldn't have any bargaining power and would be stuck eating that franchise price tag IMO.

[Smitty]

One domino has fallen in a way. I guess we all knew he was going to stay with the 49ers


49ers signed QB Jimmy Garoppolo to a five-year, $137.5 million contract.

In terms of average-annual value — $27.5 million — it makes Garoppolo the highest-paid player in NFL history. That's at least until Kirk Cousins hits free agency. Going on 27, Garoppolo has made only seven career starts, but he has won all of them. He was a wonder in his six 2017 49ers appearances, completing 67.4 percent of his 178 passes while averaging 8.8 yards per attempt. This, with Marquise Goodwin as his No. 1 receiver. Garoppolo's signature is his lighting-quick release. It allows him to attempt throws other quarterbacks would not dream of. The money is eye-popping for someone with so little regular season experience, but Garoppolo should validate the 49ers' trust in 2018.

[bonarae]

Many fans want the catch rule changed:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/survey-shows-a-vast-majority-of-fans-want-the-nfl-to-change-the-catch-rule/

[JacksFan40]

Many fans want the catch rule changed:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/survey-shows-a-vast-majority-of-fans-want-the-nfl-to-change-the-catch-rule/
Shocker

[bonarae]

Sherman flips teams within the division.... to the 49ers.

[ASU33]

The NFC West has just gotten VERY interesting!

[Gil Dobie]

Case Keenum to the Broncos

[BisonTru]

Cousins to the Vikings for 28 mil a year.

[POD Knows]

Cousins to the Vikings for 28 mil a year.JFC, I guess you don't have to be smart to own a FB team. He is a decent QB but the highest paid QB in the league, I am not seeing it.

[Laker]

Cousins to the Vikings for 28 mil a year.

I'm hearing three years? I can't get excited about this move.

[ASU33]

Cousins to the Vikings for 28 mil a year.

SMH! Aint no way in hell.

[BisonTru]

I'm hearing three years? I can't get excited about this move.

The Vikings have a good team with no quarterback and a ton of cap room. I like this move for both sides.

[Laker]

The Vikings have a good team with no quarterback and a ton of cap room. I like this move for both sides.

Is Cousins going to be any better than Keenum, who they could have gotten a lot cheaper?

We will see.

[Thumper 76]

JFC, I guess you don't have to be smart to own a FB team. He is a decent QB but the highest paid QB in the league, I am not seeing it.
I hate the Vikings, but this is a great move for them. Every year a veteran qb that is any good is a free agent or signs a new deal they will likely end up being the highest paid for a short time. Cousins will be for approximately a month until the Packers finalize Rodgers new deal. Also, add in that the salary cap is getting bigger again fairly soon this deal ends up not being that bad for them, unfortunately. In the NFL you have to take advantage of windows of opportunity to try to win a Super Bowl, and if they stuck with what they had it would be wasting it. Look at the Seahawks now. Their window has closed and are blowing it up. Cousins put up as good of numbers as Matt Ryan in an absolute dumpster fire of an organization. With the talent he will have around him, I think they are favorites to make the Super Bowl.

Is Cousins going to be any better than Keenum, who they could have gotten a lot cheaper?

We will see.

Yes he is. The only reason Keenum was good was because the Vikes coaching staff made the offense so he could be. He limited what they could do. Cousins is a far better qb, just because the internet and twitter don’t like him doesn’t mean he’s bad. It somewhat reminds me of how everyone thought Romo was trash.


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[Laker]

Bleacher Report‏Verified account @BleacherReport (https://twitter.com/BleacherReport) 40s41 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/973626762260353026)More



Sam Bradford intends to sign with Cardinals, per @AdamSchefter (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter)

[Smitty]

Also Cousins contract was fully guaranteed for 3 years. That is the first of its kind in the NFL.

[Evolution Prime]

And the Packers release Jordy Nelson.

[BisonTru]

Is Cousins going to be any better than Keenum, who they could have gotten a lot cheaper?

We will see.

For sure. Ive liked Keenum since his days in Houston. He's a gamer, but he's a spot starter backup. Cousins is a top 15 QB in the league. Those kind of guys never hit free agency especially in their 20s (he's 29). Being a true pocket passer Cousins could retire a Viking in his late 30s.

Plus the Vikings have the cap space. They have a good football team outside of QB. They don't have a high pick to draft a QB (big gamble there anyway). Makes a lot of sense.

The Vikings now have a top defense. Dalvin Cook who we saw enough last year to see he's going to be a top RB. Now they have a top 15 QB. Plus.... ADAM THEILEN.

Look out.

[Laker]

Plus.... ADAM THEILEN.

Best thing that you have ever posted. xthumbsupx

[Laker]

Da Bears will try to be Denver East- at least they will be wearing orange jerseys this season.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/978799282219307010/bp4gpB9N?format=jpg&name=600x314

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Many of the hard-hitting defensive stars of this NFL generation are not fans of the new targeting rule...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/richard-sherman-josh-norman-other-defensive-players-blast-nfls-targeting-rule/

[JSUSoutherner]

I’m changing my super bowl picks.

Houston and the Rams.

Rams are going to waffle stomp teams this season.

[ASU33]

Meanwhile...

Many of the hard-hitting defensive stars of this NFL generation are not fans of the new targeting rule...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/richard-sherman-josh-norman-other-defensive-players-blast-nfls-targeting-rule/

I hate it. You can only make football so safe

[Laker]

Jason Barrett‏More (https://twitter.com/sportsradiopd)
Bill Wanger of FOX Sports says alternate uniforms on Thursday Night Football are going away. Hardcore fans don’t need gimmicks to watch. The game schedule will also be stronger. #NABShow (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NABShow?src=hash)

[clenz]

Not going away. Just not only on Thursday’s now.


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[Laker]

Dez Bryant released by the Cowboys.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000926363/article/dez-done-in-dallas-cowboys-release-longtime-receiver

[ASU33]

Dez Bryant released by the Cowboys.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000926363/article/dez-done-in-dallas-cowboys-release-longtime-receiver


Good move by the Cowboys. Dez was getting primary receiver money and he's no longer a primary guy.

[BisonTru]

USA TODAY Sports NFL agent poll: Redskins, Bruce Allen get low marks on preparedness, trust
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2018/04/19/nfl-agent-poll-bruce-allen-redskins-bill-belichick-demaurice-smith/528741002/

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[dewey]

The NFL schedule has been released.

Here is the Vikings schedule.

SKOL!

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[PaladinFan]

Falcons/Eagles open up the season. That’ll be a good one against the two marquee teams in the NFC (my opinion, of course)

[JSUSoutherner]

Falcons/Eagles open up the season. That’ll be a good one against the two marquee teams in the NFC (my opinion, of course)
I can see the Falcons going either way. They can either move forward after a year of Sarkisian or they can go the way the Falcons always go and sink back into mediocrity.

IMO, this game is make or break for Atlanta

[PaladinFan]

I can see the Falcons going either way. They can either move forward after a year of Sarkisian or they can go the way the Falcons always go and sink back into mediocrity.

IMO, this game is make or break for Atlanta

Playing the Superbowl Champ in Week 1 on the road is "make or break?"

I still think ATL will be one of the top teams in the NFC. Matt Ryan had some unbelievably poor luck last season with tipped passes by his receivers in tight games. I don't think that trend will continue.

[JSUSoutherner]

Playing the Superbowl Champ in Week 1 on the road is "make or break?"

I still think ATL will be one of the top teams in the NFC. Matt Ryan had some unbelievably poor luck last season with tipped passes by his receivers in tight games. I don't think that trend will continue.

Confidence. The Falcons aren’t the most mentally tough team in the NFL. They have a tendency to start seasons hot. Starting off with a big fat L on prime time in a game where they will be asked to prove themselves will likely get in their heads. They have the Eagles, Steelers, Panthers, and Saints in the first 5 games. If they don’t come out the gate swinging there’s a good chance they start the year off 1-4.

[PaladinFan]

Confidence. The Falcons aren’t the most mentally tough team in the NFL. They have a tendency to start seasons hot. Starting off with a big fat L on prime time in a game where they will be asked to prove themselves will likely get in their heads. They have the Eagles, Steelers, Panthers, and Saints in the first 5 games. If they don’t come out the gate swinging there’s a good chance they start the year off 1-4.

That's a ridiculous take.

Spare me on the Steelers. That team is only "good" because they play in a laughably bad division. I expect they are going to look a lot less impressive in 2018 having to play the entire NFC South, which has four teams better than anyone in that division.

[JSUSoutherner]

That's a ridiculous take.

Spare me on the Steelers. That team is only "good" because they play in a laughably bad division. I expect they are going to look a lot less impressive in 2018 having to play the entire NFC South, which has four teams better than anyone in that division.

I mean, considering you're a Falcons fan, I'm sure it does sound delusional to you.

We can check this post in October, but unless they beat the Eagles, my money is on a 1-4 start.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Just watched a tribute to Pat Tillman on ESPN. I've watched a similar one but this one was really good.

What a quality person. Honor, integrity, honesty, toughness and genuine character. Better man than 99.9% of us....

[Lorne_Malvo]

my money is on a 1-4 start.

2-6 is very possible.

[PaladinFan]

I mean, considering you're a Falcons fan, I'm sure it does sound delusional to you.

We can check this post in October, but unless they beat the Eagles, my money is on a 1-4 start.

I am a Falcons fan, and they may well start 1-4, but to call a week 1 game "make or break" is just dumb.

Even if they start 1-4, they are one of the most (if not the most) talented teams in the NFC. They'll be fine.

[Smitty]

2-6 is very possible.

One could only hope...

[BisonTru]

NFL draft tomorrow....

My guess is Sam Darnold will go number 1.

Although I think Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, and Kyle Lauletta will be the best quarterbacks in this class.

There's a lot of hype for Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson. Like Sam I don't see those two panning out well.

Time will tell.

RB Barkley is probably the best back to come out in many years and DE Chubb could be a Von Miller game changer. They will be in the battle with potentially 5 quarterbacks for those first few picks.


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[PaladinFan]

If a team is going to draft a QB, I'm always in favor of going for the guy from the lesser known school. I'd go with Allen.

My reasons for this are usually pretty simple. You see the top echelon of NFL QBs the last 10 years and a lot of them came out of lesser-known programs. Those guys played their college ball and were not surrounded by elite talent at every position like some of the guys that come out of the SEC schools, Oklahoma, USC, etc. Their numbers are perhaps not as eyepopping, but a large part of that is because the talent around them isn't as good.

I'd go with the guy that got it done at Wyoming instead of those guys that were great players surrounded by blue chip talent who make everyone look good.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Cleveland should take Barkley with the 1st pick IMO. They can get a good QB at #4 also.

They are talking with Mayfield....no way IMO. He seems more like a Manziel....

[Lorne_Malvo]

If a team is going to draft a QB, I'm always in favor of going for the guy from the lesser known school. I'd go with Allen.

My reasons for this are usually pretty simple. You see the top echelon of NFL QBs the last 10 years and a lot of them came out of lesser-known programs. Those guys played their college ball and were not surrounded by elite talent at every position like some of the guys that come out of the SEC schools, Oklahoma, USC, etc. Their numbers are perhaps not as eyepopping, but a large part of that is because the talent around them isn't as good.

I'd go with the guy that got it done at Wyoming instead of those guys that were great players surrounded by blue chip talent who make everyone look good.

Allen did not get much done at Wyoming though.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Cleveland takes Mayfield #1....xsmhx

We'll see, I think this kid will be a bust and that will be in tune for Cleveland.

Barkley went to the Giants. Kid is the best player in the draft and best RB since AP IMO.

[uni88]

Cleveland takes Mayfield #1....xsmhx

We'll see, I think this kid will be a bust and that will be in tune for Cleveland.

Barkley went to the Giants. Kid is the best player in the draft and best RB since AP IMO.Barkley's better than AP, he is a threat as a reviewer too.

I like the Mayfield pick. The kid's cocky but he's a winner and a helluva lot smarter than Manziel.

[POD Knows]

NFL draft tomorrow....

My guess is Sam Darnold will go number 1.

Although I think Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, and Kyle Lauletta will be the best quarterbacks in this class.

There's a lot of hype for Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson. Like Sam I don't see those two panning out well.

Time will tell.

RB Barkley is probably the best back to come out in many years and DE Chubb could be a Von Miller game changer. They will be in the battle with potentially 5 quarterbacks for those first few picks.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDid you catch Rosen's green room speech, the guy is a tool. I am not really impressed with this Darnold guy either, I also saw him play a couple times but he never looked that sharp to me and the guy seems to have a weight problem. Kind of shocked that Mayfield went #1, but, well, it is Cleveland after all. Agree on Barkley and Chubb, those guys are solid.

[BisonTru]

Did you catch Rosen's green room speech, the guy is a tool. I am not really impressed with this Darnold guy either, I also saw him play a couple times but he never looked that sharp to me and the guy seems to have a weight problem. Kind of shocked that Mayfield went #1, but, well, it is Cleveland after all. Agree on Barkley and Chubb, those guys are solid.

Crazy that Chubb fell to five.

Rosen has an off putting personality, but he's been at the top of this QB class since he was a HS recruit. I think he'll be a Jay Cutler like QB. A good QB that isn't liked by many even some teammates.


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[POD Knows]

Crazy that Chubb fell to five.

Rosen has an off putting personality, but he's been at the top of this QB class since he was a HS recruit. I think he'll be a Jay Cutler like QB. A good QB that isn't liked by many even some teammates.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYea, but at least Chubb was classy about it. I have never seen Rosen play but he says a lot of strange stuff, he was complaining about anti-Semitism on the field in college football. He seems like a victim and not a leader but we will see. He is a pretty young guy and will probably mature. I guess I use the Carson Wentz approach as the benchmark on how to conduct yourself, Rosen falls quite a bit short on that. I think he is lucky that there wasn't more defensive players drafted ahead of him, those guys may have taken that remark personally.

[JSUSoutherner]

Yea, but at least Chubb was classy about it. I have never seen Rosen play but he says a lot of strange stuff, he was complaining about anti-Semitism on the field in college football. He seems like a victim and not a leader but we will see. He is a pretty young guy and will probably mature. I guess I use the Carson Wentz approach as the benchmark on how to conduct yourself, Rosen falls quite a bit short on that. I think he is lucky that there wasn't more defensive players drafted ahead of him, those guys may have taken that remark personally.
I think Denzel Ward going in front of Chubb was the surprising thing. Ward was a good pick that filled a bigger need for the Browns though.

Rosen probably has the highest ceiling of any QB in this draft, but he will need some polishing and mentoring.

I’m one of the few people that actually like the Mayfield pick. The Johnny Manziel comparisons are stupid.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

DeLuca's horrible combine was his Waterloo. Hopefully he gets an invite somewhere.

[Laker]

Congrats to Evan for signing with Tampa Bay. He would talk to me after every MSU-Mankato game. We were both defensive ends, we both liked sacking the QB. However, he did it much more successfully.

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[Smitty]

Matt Ryan signs a 5 year extension with the Falcons; $100 million guaranteed


That's $28.2 million per year, but it's $30 million per year during the extension seasons. That's a threshold that had previously never been crossed in the NFL, and rarely even in other North American sports. It will soon become routine for quarterbacks. Ryan produced as many turnovers as touchdowns in 2015 before his stunning MVP campaign in 2016. He was somewhere in between in 2017. Two weeks shy of his 33rd birthday, Ryan should still have multiple years left of potential elite play. Emphasis on "potential." Ryan sometimes needs to be elevated instead of doing the elevating himself. - Rotoworld

That is a lot of money being thrown at him.

[PaladinFan]

Matt Ryan signs a 5 year extension with the Falcons; $100 million guaranteed



That is a lot of money being thrown at him.

This is true. In the NFL, though, you throw stupid money at quarterbacks. There is no position in professional sports more closely tied to a team's success.

Looks like the Falcons were trying to move quickly on this. There are a few QBs in line for extensions, and Atlanta didn't want to react to the market more than they had to. Kirk Cousins signed for AAV of $28m, and Ryan is a better player.

[Laker]

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[OhioHen]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcZzpdgVwAIVnY2.jpg

Pujols may be built like a linebacker, but...

[JSUSoutherner]

Matt Ryan signs a 5 year extension with the Falcons; $100 million guaranteed



That is a lot of money being thrown at him.

More than he’s worth.

[PaladinFan]

More than he’s worth.

Disagree. You can argue that QBs are paid too much, and I don't dispute that, but Ryan's new contract extension is precisely in line with the market. Look at the other contracts.

Kirk Cousins, who has had nowhere near the career or success Ryan has had, signed for $28m with the Vikings. Jimmy Goroppolo, who has essentially been a career backup, signed for $27.5m. Ryan clearly has a body of work far superior to either of those players. Besides, this contract will probably look like a bargain next to whatever Aaron Rodgers signs for.

I realize you don't like the Falcons for whatever reason, but when you look at the market for QBs, this is probably exactly what Ryan is worth. He is one of the top QBs in the league, the best QB in Falcons' history, and easily worth that annual salary for the most important position in professional sports.

[bonarae]

40 plus days to go before kickoff... xcoffeex

[Laker]

Former MSU-Mankato Mav defensive end Evan Perrizo has his pads carried by Jameis Winston. I would talk to him after every game.

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[Smitty]

Well the first full day of preseason games have been completed. Judging by fan reactions the Browns will win the superbowl, the Steelers will win the superbowl, the Packers will win the superbowl, actually it seems that any team who won yesterday will win the superbowl.

[bonarae]

Defective ball, really? Or is the NFL washing their own hands again?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000946881/article/deflated-football-found-in-steelerseagles-game

[JacksFan40]

Dallas Goedert looked strong in preseason debut vs Steelers. Finished with 4 catches for 66 yds and a TD.
https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/dallas-goedert-looks-like-the-real-deal

[JayJ79]

Defective ball, really? Or is the NFL washing their own hands again?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000946881/article/deflated-football-found-in-steelerseagles-game
Would a team really bother tampering with the footballs (and risk the bad PR) for a preseason game?

[BisonTru]

Dallas Goedert looked strong in preseason debut vs Steelers. Finished with 4 catches for 66 yds and a TD.
https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/dallas-goedert-looks-like-the-real-deal

I love that Goedert ended up in Philly with Wentz. He's gonna be a damn good pro.

[Lorne_Malvo]

Dallas Goedert looked strong in preseason debut vs Steelers. Finished with 4 catches for 66 yds and a TD.
https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/dallas-goedert-looks-like-the-real-deal

Impossible. Twitter told me that he had a broken neck, 2 broken legs and 1 broken arm.

[POD Knows]

Watched the Iggles/Browns game last night, if the Iggles O line doesn't step up, they won't have a QB left by week 6. I know it is tough to tell in pre-season what is really going on but their play to date this year has been terrible.

[Smitty]

Watched the Iggles/Browns game last night, if the Iggles O line doesn't step up, they won't have a QB left by week 6. I know it is tough to tell in pre-season what is really going on but their play to date this year has been terrible.

It could be one heck of a superbowl hangover. I was more impressed that the game actually ended 5-0

[Smitty]

Aaron Rodgers signs an extension to become highest paid player. $134 million with $100m guaranteed...

I should have planned my life differently...

[PaladinFan]

Watched the Iggles/Browns game last night, if the Iggles O line doesn't step up, they won't have a QB left by week 6. I know it is tough to tell in pre-season what is really going on but their play to date this year has been terrible.

They host the Falcons in week 1. That will be a tough test out of the gate.

[JSUSoutherner]

Watched the Iggles/Browns game last night, if the Iggles O line doesn't step up, they won't have a QB left by week 6. I know it is tough to tell in pre-season what is really going on but their play to date this year has been terrible.
Hopefully they step up, I drafted Ajayi and Wentz this year.

[BisonTru]

Hopefully they step up, I drafted Ajayi and Wentz this year.

This is the Eagles line LT Jason Peters, RT Lane Jonson, C Jason Kelce, G Brandon Brooks.... All four of those guys are potential all stars perennially. They will be fine. Honestly the Eagles whole roster is littered with talent. Of course they are ****ed after this year, between who they already have on big contracts and who they're going to have to sign to big contracts.

[Gil Dobie]

That time of the year again

https://i.imgflip.com/1ho2py.jpg

[JSUSoutherner]

This is the Eagles line LT Jason Peters, RT Lane Jonson, C Jason Kelce, G Brandon Brooks.... All four of those guys are potential all stars perennially. They will be fine. Honestly the Eagles whole roster is littered with talent. Of course they are ****ed after this year, between who they already have on big contracts and who they're going to have to sign to big contracts.
Yes, but they have also have a very spotty injury history. Not ideal if your depth is lacking.

[PaladinFan]

A brief commentary.

The NFL, in my opinion, has put itself in a position to over-legislate virtually everything about the game. Last night's Eagles/Falcons contest was heavily penalized, but many of those calls (against both teams) were of the ticky-tack variety and really, I thought, took away from the game.

Football is a game where refs can, quite literally, call a penalty on every play. No one wants to watch that sort of football game.

Every year I grow less interested in the NFL's product. I will still watch the Falcons, but have little interest in the game as a whole.

[Laker]

I only saw the last minute or so of the game. I was watching one that was meant to be a comedy- The Longest Yard. When I saw the Falcons go 0-5 from first and goal I thought I was watching a replay of the playoffs.

[POD Knows]

A brief commentary.

The NFL, in my opinion, has put itself in a position to over-legislate virtually everything about the game. Last night's Eagles/Falcons contest was heavily penalized, but many of those calls (against both teams) were of the ticky-tack variety and really, I thought, took away from the game.

Football is a game where refs can, quite literally, call a penalty on every play. No one wants to watch that sort of football game.

Every year I grow less interested in the NFL's product. I will still watch the Falcons, but have little interest in the game as a whole.What did you think of that last "illegal" contact penalty on the Iggles? Last play of the game, the marginal contact really didn't have a lot to do with the play.

[PaladinFan]

What did you think of that last "illegal" contact penalty on the Iggles? Last play of the game, the marginal contact really didn't have a lot to do with the play.

I didn't really see a lot there. I am, perhaps, a little more forgiving when the alleged infraction is on the intended receiver and directly impacts that play.

Some of the calls were actually penalties. They probably were all penalties under a strict reading of the rules. I just abhor those two roughing the passer calls against defensive players just doing their job. It used to be that roughing the passer was reserved for unnecessary extra physical contact after the ball is released. Now, like a "catch," no one really has any idea of what is and is not roughing the passer.

Why not just have a rule that says you cannot hit the quarterback? That's essentially the rule they are enforcing.

I also get incensed at defensive holding penalties 20 yards from the play. I realize these refs are laser focused on their spot on the field, but this is a game with a lot of fast players and a lot of grabbing back and forth. If a CB has some shirt for a tenth of a second, is that a worthy infraction?

Again, I get that all of these are technically penalties. I'm just saying football can technically call penalties on every play. No one wants to watch a 4 hour game where the referee gets most of the air time.

[Smitty]

I think there are moments where stuff like this happens in all sports. Plenty of people commented about the reffing last night so I'm sure the league will make adjustments.

[Bisonator]

I didn't really see a lot there. I am, perhaps, a little more forgiving when the alleged infraction is on the intended receiver and directly impacts that play.

Some of the calls were actually penalties. They probably were all penalties under a strict reading of the rules. I just abhor those two roughing the passer calls against defensive players just doing their job. It used to be that roughing the passer was reserved for unnecessary extra physical contact after the ball is released. Now, like a "catch," no one really has any idea of what is and is not roughing the passer.

Why not just have a rule that says you cannot hit the quarterback? That's essentially the rule they are enforcing.

I also get incensed at defensive holding penalties 20 yards from the play. I realize these refs are laser focused on their spot on the field, but this is a game with a lot of fast players and a lot of grabbing back and forth. If a CB has some shirt for a tenth of a second, is that a worthy infraction?

Again, I get that all of these are technically penalties. I'm just saying football can technically call penalties on every play. No one wants to watch a 4 hour game where the referee gets most of the air time.
I couldn't agree more, last night was ridiculous. The flags on stupid little **** that has zero bearing on the play need to be picked up and ignored. It does nothing but interrupt the flow of the game and piss people off. How is a defensive player in the act of sacking a QB not supposed to land on top of him with all of his weight??? JFC what a stupid rule just because pretty boy Rodgers got hurt last year. I get it they don't want their biggest stars getting injured but at some point even they need to realize how stupid these rules are to the game!

[POD Knows]

I didn't really see a lot there. I am, perhaps, a little more forgiving when the alleged infraction is on the intended receiver and directly impacts that play.

Some of the calls were actually penalties. They probably were all penalties under a strict reading of the rules. I just abhor those two roughing the passer calls against defensive players just doing their job. It used to be that roughing the passer was reserved for unnecessary extra physical contact after the ball is released. Now, like a "catch," no one really has any idea of what is and is not roughing the passer.

Why not just have a rule that says you cannot hit the quarterback? That's essentially the rule they are enforcing.

I also get incensed at defensive holding penalties 20 yards from the play. I realize these refs are laser focused on their spot on the field, but this is a game with a lot of fast players and a lot of grabbing back and forth. If a CB has some shirt for a tenth of a second, is that a worthy infraction?

Again, I get that all of these are technically penalties. I'm just saying football can technically call penalties on every play. No one wants to watch a 4 hour game where the referee gets most of the air time.
Yea, agree, 26 penalties, some of them pretty lame. With all the penalties, the weather delay and all the cramps/injuries, the game took forever.

[PaladinFan]

I couldn't agree more, last night was ridiculous. The flags on stupid little **** that has zero bearing on the play need to be picked up and ignored. It does nothing but interrupt the flow of the game and piss people off. How is a defensive player in the act of sacking a QB not supposed to land on top of him with all of his weight??? JFC what a stupid rule just because pretty boy Rodgers got hurt last year. I get it they don't want their biggest stars getting injured but at some point even they need to realize how stupid these rules are to the game!

If you can waive of a pass interference flag for an uncatchable ball, why can't you waive off a flag for "didn't have an impact on the play"?

[PaladinFan]

Also, Collinsworth's long bit about the "Philly Special" in the Superbowl was annoying. They make it seem like the Eagles have some sort of evil genius offensive minds.

I saw at least four college teams (in real time) run that exact play last season. Furman ran it in Week 1 against Wofford. Army ran it against Navy (or other way around)

What would really be interesting is who came up with the play. Like, which high school coach drew that up on a napkin that found its way into the SuperBowl and how long did it take to get there. If Furman ran it in Week 1 under a new coaching staff, they likely got it from somebody.

note: of the several teams I saw run that play last year, Furman is the only one that didn't score a TD.

[POD Knows]

Also, Collinsworth's long bit about the "Philly Special" in the Superbowl was annoying. They make it seem like the Eagles have some sort of evil genius offensive minds.

I saw at least four college teams (in real time) run that exact play last season. Furman ran it in Week 1 against Wofford. Army ran it against Navy (or other way around)

What would really be interesting is who came up with the play. Like, which high school coach drew that up on a napkin that found its way into the SuperBowl and how long did it take to get there. If Furman ran it in Week 1 under a new coaching staff, they likely got it from somebody.

note: of the several teams I saw run that play last year, Furman is the only one that didn't score a TD.Played 9 man football in high school with a 2 back set an a flanker, I was a flanker, split out to the left, the QB handed up to the HB who pitched the ball to my as I was coming around the right and I threw a TD to the QB running a wheel route. That play is as old as dirt.

[OhioHen]

Played 9 man football in high school with a 2 back set an a flanker, I was a flanker, split out to the left, the QB handed up to the HB who pitched the ball to my as I was coming around the right and I threw a TD to the QB running a wheel route. That play is as old as dirt.

We did a bunch of that playing 20 vs. 20 on the elementary school playground and 5 vs. 5 in the street. Collinsworth continues to be one of the worst "analysts" to grace the airways.

[POD Knows]

Fire Tomlin, are you freaking kidding me.

[JSUSoutherner]

Fire Tomlin, are you freaking kidding me.

Nah.

[POD Knows]

Nah.Wrong, this organization continuously feeds him some of the best talent in the league and he ****s it up. His teams are completely undisciplined, sort of like JSU. There have been numerous situations where this **** screwed the pooch in close games. He is a ****ty head coach.

[Daytripper]

Does the Trubisky, Mahomes, Watson draft has a chance to compete with the 1984 QB draft? I say yes.

[POD Knows]

Cleveland had 12 punts today against the Steelers, has any team ever had that many punts and still came away from a game without a loss. Pittsburgh, 6 turnovers, and well over 100 yards in penalties. Mind boggling.

[BisonTru]

Does the Trubisky, Mahomes, Watson draft has a chance to compete with the 1984 QB draft? I say yes.

I'll give you Mitch is looking sharp tonight and I've been a longtime fan of Mahommes, but you are comparing them to three hall of famers.

I think, Watson is going to find it hard to put a long career together being as mobile and small as he is. I have never been all that high on Mitch yet he's looking good this evening but I still don't see him becoming an elite talent. Mahommes, I really like with his insane arm strength. I think he's got all the tools to be in the hall but it still takes a lot of drive and focus to put together that kind of career. Optimistically I can see one of these guys making the hall of fame. They'd need all three to make it to compete with the 84 class.

[MTfan4life]

Does the Trubisky, Mahomes, Watson draft has a chance to compete with the 1984 QB draft? I say yes.

Well I think you meant the 1983 draft, but to be fair, Boomer Esiason, Jeff Hostetler, and Jay Schroeder is a much better comparison to those three guys than Marino, Elway, and Kelly.

[JSUSoutherner]

Stafford looks... Umm... Bad.

[BisonTru]

Stafford looks... Umm... Bad.

The Lions were my survivor pick. Wow. Big miss on that one.

[Bisonoline]

Wow what an ass whooping.

[BisonTru]

Wow what an ass whooping.

Weren't you done with the NFL???

[Bisonoline]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28741&stc=1

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

The Raiders' last Oakland home opener was one to forget. So much for the memories... but in the other Monday night game, Darnold...

[JSUSoutherner]

Meanwhile...

The Raiders' last Oakland home opener was one to forget. So much for the memories... but in the other Monday night game, Darnold...
I thought it was a helluva game. A choke, but a helluva game. I think the Raiders are going to be better than some expected.

[Laker]

Jemele Hill leaves ESPN:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jemele-hill-announces-departure-from-espn/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=56885772

[Laker]

Adam Thielen catches a late TD pass, Diggs ties the game on a two point conversion, and Packers miss a field goal at the gun. Going into OT.

[POD Knows]

Adam Thielen catches a late TD pass, Diggs ties the game on a two point conversion, and Packers miss a field goal at the gun. Going into OT.
What a wild freaking game, terrible call on GB on that interception late in the game that overturned an Int.

[POD Knows]

Oh, also, I need to add

Fire Tomlin, save season

[Laker]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnPj-X1V4AAKMn8.jpg

[POD Knows]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnPj-X1V4AAKMn8.jpghttp://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28823&stc=1

[Laker]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28823&stc=1

Both Carlson and Treadwell should be cut on the plane ride home.

I don't understand why Treadwell was even on the field after the ball bounced off of his hands for the INT. And yet they kept throwing to him.

Three missed field goals- two in OT. Too bad that Fred Cox can't play anymore.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Jemele Hill leaves ESPN:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jemele-hill-announces-departure-from-espn/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=56885772


She probably thinks all white people are part of the Aryan Brotherhood....xlolx

She was/is an overrated sports pundit and will more than likely fade away now.

[Gil Dobie]

Both Carlson and Treadwell should be cut on the plane ride home.

I don't understand why Treadwell was even on the field after the ball bounced off of his hands for the INT. And yet they kept throwing to him.

Three missed field goals- two in OT. Too bad that Fred Cox can't play anymore.

So you don't think a 79 year old Fred Cox could out kick Carlson :)

He's been practicing with that nerf ball invention of his.

[OhioHen]

Both Carlson and Treadwell should be cut on the plane ride home.

I don't understand why Treadwell was even on the field after the ball bounced off of his hands for the INT. And yet they kept throwing to him.

Three missed field goals- two in OT. Too bad that Fred Cox can't play anymore.

Blair Walsh is available.

http://images.performgroup.com/di/library/sporting_news/96/68/blair-walsh-kick-ftr-011016jpg_zdbxjut3332g1bjg9lv0wpoot.jpg?t=75757574 6&w=960&quality=70

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Wentz TD pass to Goedert!!!

Nice start!

[POD Knows]

Wentz TD pass to Goedert!!!

Nice start!
JFC did Phily try and give that game away or what. Anyway, win is a win and decent showing by Wentz, great drive at the end of the game. I am really enamored with that Phiily prevent D where they allow 15 yard gains, using 4 seconds of the clock and allow guys to run out of bounds, they have done that a couple times now and almost chocked games away. If they make one tackle in bounds in those final seconds the game is over but they let them march down and the field and have a chance to win it at the end.

[POD Knows]

The Eagles O line sucks balls

[POD Knows]

Jalen Mills, CB for Philly is horrid.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Philly defense lost this one....and the OL was worthless.

4th and 15 and they play 20 freaking yards off the ball....:(

Carson was getting beat up but still hung in the pocket to deliver the ball.

[POD Knows]

Philly defense lost this one....and the OL was worthless.

4th and 15 and they play 20 freaking yards off the ball....:(

Carson was getting beat up but still hung in the pocket to deliver the ball.There was nobody within 5 yards of that receiver on that 4th down. Mills got burned all day, that D made Mariotta look like Brady or Rodgers and Mariotta isn't exactly a gunslinger in the NFL.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

There was nobody within 5 yards of that receiver on that 4th down. Mills got burned all day, that D made Mariotta look like Brady or Rodgers and Mariotta isn't exactly a gunslinger in the NFL.


Agree.

Schwartz is not known for blitzing. He needed to bring some pressure more often instead of playing straight up most of the time. I hate prevent defense....xbangx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Interesting fun fact for Bison fans and Indiana State fans:

I was scanning the coaching staff of the Eagles and I noticed the former ISU-b coach Trent Miles is a coach on the team. Offensive quality control/assistant RBs coach.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

If Mahomes could keep up the momentum that he has exhibited so far, can he take KC to the SB? Or should the Chiefs' defense be consistent first before the AFC Championship Game becomes a real possibility?

[Bisonator]

Mahomes has looked unbelievable so far. Hopefully he isn't the next rising star to be lost due to injury.

[ASU33]

Mahomes has looked unbelievable so far. Hopefully he isn't the next rising star to be lost due to injury.

I certainly hope not!

[POD Knows]

FIRE TOMLIN, SAVE SEASON, STEELER NATION

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Meanwhile...

If Mahomes could keep up the momentum that he has exhibited so far, can he take KC to the SB? Or should the Chiefs' defense be consistent first before the AFC Championship Game becomes a real possibility?

Eventually the "Andy Reid Factor" will kick in which will limit KC's ceiling.

Their game against New England next week will be must see. O/U 80.5?

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Are too many in-game penalties hurting the NFL? Some coaches are very critical of those penalties... xrulesx

[Laker]

Adam Thielen with another hundred yard receiving game- plus a TD- as the Vikings top the Eagles.

[Laker]

Drew Brees just broke the NFL yardage record- and did it in style by throwing a 62 yard TD pass to do it.


From the people I've talked to who know him, he is a great guy.

[Smitty]

Manning had a good response to it

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1049476155613605888

[woffordgrad94]

So just how good are the Panthers? I don’t think we really know quite yet, but I do feel it was pure fortune that allowed them to beat the Giants. Oh, and that punk O’Dell Beckham.

[Smitty]

They are decent, they just suffer from a big case of prevent defense and run-the-clock-out-itis. Instead of just putting the nail in the coffin the offense gets into a bad habit of run run pass punt, allowing teams to catch back up.

[dewey]

Adam Thielen with another hundred yard receiving game- plus a TD- as the Vikings top the Eagles.

Adam Thielen breaks NFL record with his 5th straight 100 yard receiving game as the Vikings beat the Eagles.

5th Straight 100-Yard Game Out of Gate Puts Thielen in NFL Record Book

https://www.vikings.com/news/5th-straight-100-yard-game-out-of-gate-puts-thielen-in-nfl-record-book

SKOL!

Dewey

[Laker]

Rodgers ties the game in the last two minutes, then takes them downfield after the 49ers throw a pick and they hit a field goal as time runs out to win 33-30.

[bonarae]

Is the 10 minute OT period good for the NFL? Or do you prefer college style OT periods?

[Bisonoline]

Is the 10 minute OT period good for the NFL? Or do you prefer college style OT periods?

College OT. The NFL OT is another one of their idiotic decisions.

[POD Knows]

Is the 10 minute OT period good for the NFL? Or do you prefer college style OT periods?The college OT is awesome, I would vote for that.

[JacksFan40]

Is the 10 minute OT period good for the NFL? Or do you prefer college style OT periods?
NFL OT wouldn’t be as bad if they didn’t just end in ties. But college is still far better, more exciting OT.

[Smitty]

I find ending in ties hilarious as the fans don't know how to react after the game. I'm all for keeping it for the most part.

[Laker]

Is the 10 minute OT period good for the NFL? Or do you prefer college style OT periods?

College OT is much better.

[JayJ79]

If the NFL adopted OT rules similar to college, do you think the posessions would still start at the 25, or would they move them back?

[OhioHen]

I would prefer to do away with the "First and 10" at the 25 and ramp up the pressure.

1st OT - first and goal at the 15
2nd OT - first and goal at the 20
etc.

[JayJ79]

I would prefer to do away with the "First and 10" at the 25 and ramp up the pressure.

1st OT - first and goal at the 15
2nd OT - first and goal at the 20
etc.
so you're wanting to completely eliminate the run game from OT?

[Laker]

RedditCFB‏Verified account @RedditCFB (https://twitter.com/RedditCFB) 25s26 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1052953991355801603)More



Today is the 2nd time in history that 6 major American sports occur on the same night:https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c8.pngNCAAF—2 gameshttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c0.pngNBA—3 gameshttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3d2.pngNHL—9 gameshttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/26be.pngMLBhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c8.pngNFLhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/26bd.pngMLSThe only other time in history this occurred was Nov 1, 2009, a Sunday where Marshall played at UCF (via /u/imeanthisguy_really)

[Laker]

Thielen gets his seventh 100 yard receiving game plus a TD catch. Pride of Detroit Lakes!

[bonarae]

First performance-based firing of a zebra .... xcoffeex

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000978261/article/nfl-fires-official-cruz-for-performancebased-reasons

[OhioHen]

First performance-based firing of a zebra .... xcoffeex

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000978261/article/nfl-fires-official-cruz-for-performancebased-reasons

The whole crew on last nights Miami-Houston game may need to be next. That performance made some of the garbage seen from FCS crews in the playoffs look downright spectacular.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Former NDSU LB Chris Board doing good things for the Ravens:

https://www.inforum.com/sports/909943-Ravens-head-coach-Harbaugh-raves-about-former-Bison-linebacker

[POD Knows]

Former NDSU LB Chris Board doing good things for the Ravens:

https://www.inforum.com/sports/909943-Ravens-head-coach-Harbaugh-raves-about-former-Bison-linebackerHoly crap, does it look like he put on about 20 to 30 lbs of muscle. I don't remember him being that big when he played here.

[Laker]

This just in: Adam Thielen is pretty good.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqovmRsV4AEO5E3.jpg

[POD Knows]

This just in: Adam Thielen is pretty good.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqovmRsV4AEO5E3.jpg
Yep, he is lights out, he will hit 100 yards today by halftime at the rate this is going. New Orleans has way too many Ohio State Buckeyes in their secondary, they are getting absolutely torched by the Vikings.

[woffordgrad94]

Wow! Great win for the Carolina Panthers over the Ravens! At 5-2, the Panthers are starting to look like a playoff team.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile....

The Browns fire their HC and OC. Is it safe to say that they are in league with the Coyotes in this generation? xchinscratchx

[JSUSoutherner]

Yep, he is lights out, he will hit 100 yards today by halftime at the rate this is going. New Orleans has way too many Ohio State Buckeyes in their secondary, they are getting absolutely torched by the Vikings.
You see... the thing about Buckeyes corner backs is they win football games. :D

[JSUSoutherner]

Meanwhile....

The Browns fire their HC and OC. Is it safe to say that they are in league with the Coyotes in this generation? xchinscratchx
Apparently their new OC is a local of this area. Friend told me he's from Gadsden. Haven't looked into it though.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Bills Mafia put on quite a show last night! I'm a weird human in that I'm a longstanding Pats fan (since the Parcells days) but have been attending Buffalo games for years. The two teams really aren't hated rivals and Bills fans in general are a friendly, granted crazy as hell, good natured bunch. If Buffalo would get a consistent winner New Era Stadium would rock like last night every game. The stadium, while not perfect, has some awesome character and is great place to watch a game. It's the Arrowhead/Lambeau of the East; very college like! I always park in someones yard for $10!

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_photogallery/f_auto/bills/wsfnlpvy8wfq6zqqzsjl.jpg

[grizband]

Meanwhile....

The Browns fire their HC and OC. Is it safe to say that they are in league with the Coyotes in this generation? xchinscratchx
Probably needed to happen, though. While not the most talented roster, Cleveland has too many early picks to be that bad (although somthing like 4 OT games this season doesn't help).

[bonarae]

After a rough stretch of games for the Ravens, it seems that John Harbaugh is on the hot seat now...

[POD Knows]

You see... the thing about Buckeyes corner backs is they win football games. :DYea, I guess, no thanks their secondary, Cousins lit them up.

Also, Drew Brees is good at football.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Green Bay has no chance with McCarthy as their head coach. BB will always win the coaching matchup but there's been plenty of times when the other guy had a plan that gave their team a chance. Outside of throwing coverages that frustrated Brady in the 3rd quarter the McCarthy and his staff did nothing remotely "interesting". They basically let Rodgers get knocked around in the 2nd half with the belief he'd somehow bail them out.

One final note, Rodgers is great but he always hurt/banged up. Last night he was clearly hurting by the end. When he's 100% Rodgers is ridiculous but that's really maybe 2/3 of time. He can carry the team then. But right now he's simply not at the level needed to cover for the team's weaknesses.

[JSUSoutherner]

Yea, I guess, no thanks their secondary, Cousins lit them up.

Also, Drew Brees is good at football.
Another week, another dub

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

JM xtwocentsx

Le'Veon Bell should've never been a franchise player. So far this season, he held his team out and has never played a down. A waste of talent I think.

[BisonTru]

Meanwhile...

JM xtwocentsx

Le'Veon Bell should've never been a franchise player. So far this season, he held his team out and has never played a down. A waste of talent I think.

Well technically he isn't going to get any of the franchise tag money since he never showed. IMO, the Steelers are saving a bunch of coin and getting things done with Conner for pennies on the dollar. Bell is saving himself a year of wear and will probably sign a big contract, but that internal clock still ticks even if he isn't playing. He missed out on a year in his prime to make some money and play a sport that you can't play for long. A mistake on his part, IMO.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Eagles need a running game. Instead of Golden Tate, they should have gone after a RB. No running game and defenses do not respect what is out there for the Eagles.

OL help is also needed.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

No Mexico games in the NFL this season, as the Chiefs-Rams game is moved back stateside due to poor field conditions.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000987994/article/chiefsrams-game-moved-from-mexico-city-to-la

[woffordgrad94]

Le Veon Bell should be kicked out of the NFL for life for his stunt...very greedy selfish guy-not at all a team player. I would never sign him for that reason.

[JSUSoutherner]

Le Veon Bell should be kicked out of the NFL for life for his stunt...very greedy selfish guy-not at all a team player. I would never sign him for that reason.
I see both sides of the argument. On the one hand, he could play for his franchise tag and help his team. But, by doing so he's going to get run into the dirt and risk hurting himself in a free-agency year for him. See: Earl Thomas. Bottom line: it's his body and talent and if he doesn't want to play for the Steelers that's his call. It'd be one thing if he took the money and didn't perform but he chose not to take the money. Had he came back, and tore an ACL and had his career ended we'd all be saying the same things people were saying about Thomas.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Le Veon Bell should be kicked out of the NFL for life for his stunt...very greedy selfish guy-not at all a team player. I would never sign him for that reason.


Actually, I think he did the best thing and I'm a Steelers fan.

He is worth more than the tag. Most NFL careers are 3-5 years. He has a short window to play.

I would like the Eagles to get him but his price is going to be high.

[Bisonoline]

Le Veon Bell should be kicked out of the NFL for life for his stunt...very greedy selfish guy-not at all a team player. I would never sign him for that reason.


How old are you?

[POD Knows]

Actually, I think he did the best thing and I'm a Steelers fan.

He is worth more than the tag. Most NFL careers are 3-5 years. He has a short window to play.

I would like the Eagles to get him but his price is going to be high.Hey, I am a Steeler fan too, and an Eagles fan and would love to see the Eagles get him but they need to rebuilt that O line there, nobody can run behind that line at this point in time.

[OhioHen]

Hey, I am a Steeler fan too, and an Eagles fan

Are you allowed to be both?

[POD Knows]

Are you allowed to be both?They aren't really rivals seeing as how they aren't in the same conference or division. I was rooting for the Eagles when they blasted the Steelers a couple years back. I have been on the fire Tomlin bandwagon for a while now.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

They aren't really rivals seeing as how they aren't in the same conference or division. I was rooting for the Eagles when they blasted the Steelers a couple years back. I have been on the fire Tomlin bandwagon for a while now.


I was a Tomlin fan but no way now. He is a mediocre coach at best....and that is generous.

Time for him to go.

[POD Knows]

I was a Tomlin fan but no way now. He is a mediocre coach at best....and that is generous.

Time for him to go.He is a players coach but the team has no discipline and their D sucks and that is not Steeler football.

[JacksFan40]

I think Bell’s been exposed as overrated this year a bit. James Conner is playing great right now and the Steelers are as good as they’ve been the last few years. Conner should reach 1k yards if he stays healthy. It either proves A. James Conner is just that good or B. The Steelers O-Line is that damn good, I’ll take B.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Geez, the Eagles need a running game. OL needs help....

[POD Knows]

I think Bell’s been exposed as overrated this year a bit. James Conner is playing great right now and the Steelers are as good as they’ve been the last few years. Conner should reach 1k yards if he stays healthy. It either proves A. James Conner is just that good or B. The Steelers O-Line is that damn good, I’ll take B.
Connor had a terrible game today. Two drops on critical throws but the Steelers pulled it out

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Getting really ugly for the Eagles in NO.....xsmhx

Eagles will not get to .500 this year....xsmhx

[POD Knows]

Getting really ugly for the Eagles in NO.....xsmhx

Eagles will not get to .500 this year....xsmhx
They are horrible. They might have the worst O line in the NFL. Their D sucks there is no way this train wreck gets to 500 this year.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The Eagles are a dumpster fire. Wentz has been really struggling too. I know he had a high completion percentage but it wasn't getting the "o" anywhere. The last two games he's struggled with accuracy. It won't take long for those in Philly to call for Foles....

[BisonTru]

The ****ty part for the Eagles is they are screwed next year with their cap situation. This was the year to get back to the superbowl. Pretty damn disappointing.

[POD Knows]

The ****ty part for the Eagles is they are screwed next year with their cap situation. This was the year to get back to the superbowl. Pretty damn disappointing.Weren't you the guy that took me to task when I blasted the Philly O line? Apology accepted. :D

[BisonTru]

Weren't you the guy that took me to task when I blasted the Philly O line? Apology accepted. :D

I don't remember. On paper they should be pretty good. They've got two of the top paid tackles with a highly paid guard and center. They aren't going to be able to keep all of these guys and eventually they have to put Wentz on a big boy contract.

[dewey]

Dam the Vikings look like they have ZERO chance to win this game.

Dewey

[dewey]

Big forced fumble and recovery. Come on Vikings!

Dewey

[dewey]

Dang the Vikings offensive line is terrible.

14-6 Bears lead early 4th quarter.

Dewey

[Lorne_Malvo]

Getting really ugly for the Eagles in NO.....xsmhx

Eagles will not get to .500 this year....xsmhx

The Eagles need to dump wentz and play foles.

[Bisonoline]

The Eagles need to dump wentz and play foles.

I see troll boy is working this thread also.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I see troll boy is working this thread also.


Wentz is the reason they have 4 wins. I was going to respond to that nonsense but you said it perfectly....:D

[POD Knows]

I don't remember. On paper they should be pretty good. They've got two of the top paid tackles with a highly paid guard and center. They aren't going to be able to keep all of these guys and eventually they have to put Wentz on a big boy contract.Yea, they did look good on paper but Peters is old and needs to retire, Johnson is grossly overrated and when you are hurting at the tackle spots, you have problems. I don't remember if it was you or Chaos that commented on my post, and nobody really blasted me for it. The Eagles have major problems around the corner. I was actually pretty optimistic about the team overall going into the year and now I don't know how they win another game.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yea, they did look good on paper but Peters is old and needs to retire, Johnson is grossly overrated and when you are hurting at the tackle spots, you have problems. I don't remember if it was you or Chaos that commented on my post, and nobody really blasted me for it. The Eagles have major problems around the corner. I was actually pretty optimistic about the team overall going into the year and now I don't know how they win another game.


Running game and OL help are needed. Defense has injuries also.

This year might just turn into a dumpster fire but hopefully they fill some holes for next year.

[TheKingpin28]

That Monday Night game was some straight up Big Fluffy action. You'd have thought Lil Shooter and Gage Gubrud were at the helms. Damn, I love a low scoring defensive slugfest, but that was impressive.

[POD Knows]

The defense that the Eagles have on the field right now, is one of the worst defenses to ever set foot on an NFL field. I know that is saying a lot but that LB corp and this group of players? in the secondary are the worst ever fielded by an NFL team. Prove me wrong. There have been some pretty bad D over the years but these guys are right up there.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Better 2nd half for the Eagles so far.

[POD Knows]

Better 2nd half for the Eagles so far.They owe me big time for calling out the D. It hurts to be this good

[ngineer]

They owe me big time for calling out the D. It hurts to be this good

What the heck were the Giants thinking in the second half. Where did Barkley go. Guy had almost 150 yards in rushing and receiving at the half and hardly touched the ball the second half! Coaches need their heads examined...but, thank you, and the Iggles will take it. Only one starter remains in the secondary. Couple of DBs who were playing D-II ball last year. Iggles hold their future in their hands with Redskins and Cowboys coming up. RB Adams looking very good. Heck of a draft pick. Wentz seems to be holding the ball a little too long, but overall had a sold day.

[BisonTru]

What the heck were the Giants thinking in the second half. Where did Barkley go. Guy had almost 150 yards in rushing and receiving at the half and hardly touched the ball the second half! Coaches need their heads examined...but, thank you, and the Iggles will take it. Only one starter remains in the secondary. Couple of DBs who were playing D-II ball last year. Iggles hold their future in their hands with Redskins and Cowboys coming up. RB Adams looking very good. Heck of a draft pick. Wentz seems to be holding the ball a little too long, but overall had a sold day.

Barkley had to be hurt. Either that or the Giants are diving for better draft picks.

Btw, Adams was undrafted.

[POD Knows]

What the heck were the Giants thinking in the second half. Where did Barkley go. Guy had almost 150 yards in rushing and receiving at the half and hardly touched the ball the second half! Coaches need their heads examined...but, thank you, and the Iggles will take it. Only one starter remains in the secondary. Couple of DBs who were playing D-II ball last year. Iggles hold their future in their hands with Redskins and Cowboys coming up. RB Adams looking very good. Heck of a draft pick. Wentz seems to be holding the ball a little too long, but overall had a sold day.
They are banged up big time on defense but they haven’t played well all year. I missed most of the second half but you are right on Barkley. The Giants have some nice tools on offense. They looked good on offense but
it was against the Iggles. Win is a win

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Pats beats the Jets...Bills beats the Jags.

The Steelers really shot themselves in the foot win turnovers. That could prove to be a costly loss when it comes to playoff tie-breakers. No one wants to play SD in the wildcard round.

[Lorne_Malvo]

Adam Thielen is a stone cold killer.

[Laker]

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7 catches

8 targets 105 yards

1 TD

longest 33

[dewey]

SKOL!

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[POD Knows]

Adam Thielen is a stone cold killer.
He is. The Vikings might have the best receiver tandem in football and one was undarfted and Diggs was
a 5th rounder I think

[Laker]

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The #Packers (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash) have fired Mike McCarthy.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Whelp, McCarthy is gone!

Time for Rodgers to put up or shut up. He's failed horribly to lead the Pack through adversity this year and now he gets his wish of new coach. If he doesn't end his career on a better note he and Danica might go down in the all-time overrated category. Rodgers is a great talent not doubt but there's something there he lacks imo. It's the same reason why he dropped to a late 1st round pick.

[CHIP72]

Danica Patrick may be kryptonite for everything she's associated with sports-wise.

[POD Knows]

Another monster choke job by the Pittsburgh Steelers.

​Fire Tomlin Now

[Laker]

Danica Patrick may be kryptonite for everything she's associated with sports-wise.

As long as she doesn't have VD...........

[Laker]

10 catches, 217 yards, 3 TDs- including the winner on a deflection in OT. Does anyone think that Amari Cooper isn't worth a first round draft choice for the Cowboys?

[POD Knows]

Good, the Steelers lose to the Raiders, anybody else want to jump on the fire Tomlin bandwagon. This team sucks and so does Tomlin.

[POD Knows]

10 catches, 217 yards, 3 TDs- including the winner on a deflection in OT. Does anyone think that Amari Cooper isn't worth a first round draft choice for the Cowboys?Anybody with a pulse could catch 10 balls against this ****ty pass D, did he make a tough catch the entire day?

[BisonFan02]

Good, the Steelers lose to the Raiders, anybody else want to jump on the fire Tomlin bandwagon. This team sucks and so does Tomlin.

The Raiders cant even tank a season properly.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Eagles defense is nothing like last year.

Lots of things to work on for next year.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Patriots suffer one of the all-time gut wrenching losses. F'ing Gostkowski again missing kicks.

Buffalo choked against the Jets. I'll be in Orchard Park next Sunday for the Bills-Lions game....

[Professor Chaos]

That offensive pass interference call on Goedert in the Philly/Dallas game that negated a long TD might be the worst call I've ever seen in an NFL game:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1071922183537070081

[Laker]

Isn't this the second game in a row that the Bears have had a tackle score an offensive TD?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Isn't this the second game in a row that the Bears have had a tackle score an offensive TD?

DT Hicks scored against the Giants last week.

[JSUSoutherner]

That offensive pass interference call on Goedert in the Philly/Dallas game that negated a long TD might be the worst call I've ever seen in an NFL game:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1071922183537070081

It's ok, the better team still won.

[POD Knows]

That offensive pass interference call on Goedert in the Philly/Dallas game that negated a long TD might be the worst call I've ever seen in an NFL game:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1071922183537070081
There was a 4 minute stretch in that game of some of the worst officiating I have ever seen. That PI on Goddret is a bad call for the ages.

[OhioHen]

That offensive pass interference call on Goedert in the Philly/Dallas game that negated a long TD might be the worst call I've ever seen in an NFL game:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1071922183537070081

Agree it was a terrible call (in addition to missing two different helmet to helmet contacts by defenders on Goedert on the play) but it still doesn't qualify as the worst call in history. The Fail Mary TD benefitting my Seahawks is still MUCH worse.

[POD Knows]

Agree it was a terrible call (in addition to missing two different helmet to helmet contacts by defenders on Goedert on the play) but it still doesn't qualify as the worst call in history. The Fail Mary TD benefitting my Seahawks is still MUCH worse.Yep, you got me there, that was horrendous but weren't those replacement refs at the time. I remember that game, sort of. This call on Philly for the PI on Goedert is still pretty heinous. I threw a bottle of water at the wall in my TV room in the basement and water exploded all over the place when they made this call.

[POD Knows]

People were talking about Wentz having a tough game against Dallas, did anybody watch the Bears/Rams or that abortion that is on TV now. Holy crap for fugly

[MR. CHICKEN]

That offensive pass interference call on Goedert in the Philly/Dallas game that negated a long TD might be the worst call I've ever seen in an NFL game:

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1071922183537070081





.....DON'T FO'GET...DUH FUMBLE RECOVERY...ON OPENIN' KICK-OFF.....FIX WAS IN....ON DUH BOYS.....HOME COOKIN' ONE THIN'.......DAT WAS UH FULL FLEDGED BANQUET GAME...xpissedx....AWK!

[JacksFan40]

Yep, you got me there, that was horrendous but weren't those replacement refs at the time. I remember that game, sort of. This call on Philly for the PI on Goedert is still pretty heinous. I threw a bottle of water at the wall in my TV room in the basement and water exploded all over the place when they made this call.
Even as a Cowboys fan I was upset with the call. Mostly because I was happy to see Goedert make plays in the NFL. It was a horrendous game, there was a BS roughing the passer call when Dallas sacked Wentz, the NFL refs are a joke.

[bonarae]

Oakland is fighting back... but is it too late?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000998896/article/oakland-sues-nfl-raiders-over-move-to-las-vegas

[MR. CHICKEN]

....ABC ACTION NEWS6....IS REPORTIN'....CARSON WENTZ...ON SHELF....FO' RAMS GAME.......REPORTED BACK ISSUE.........AWK!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

....ABC ACTION NEWS6....IS REPORTIN'....CARSON WENTZ...ON SHELF....FO' RAMS GAME.......REPORTED BACK ISSUE.........AWK!

Ohh man!! Foles leading them to a win would set up an awesome storyline heading into Houston!!!

[JSUSoutherner]

Might be at the Raiders @ Chiefs game in a couple weeks.

[MR. CHICKEN]

.........CARSON'S DONE...FO' DUH SEASON..............BROKEN BACK........OWN-LAH WAY TA FIX.......HEALS BY ITSELF....NO SURGERY..........BRAWK!

[Bisonator]

Geez that sucks for Carson. Hope he gets healthy and can go thru a full off season regime. Needs to get back to that 2017 form.

[JacksFan40]

Geez that sucks for Carson. Hope he gets healthy and can go thru a full off season regime. Needs to get back to that 2017 form.
Don't know how long he's going to last in the NFL if he keeps getting these injuries. Hope he can recover but I don't think he'll be the same Wentz. He'll have to limit his running to avoid hits, he'll have to become a pocket passer like Brady.

[JSUSoutherner]

Don't know how long he's going to last in the NFL if he keeps getting these injuries. Hope he can recover but I don't think he'll be the same Wentz. He'll have to limit his running to avoid hits, he'll have to become a pocket passer like Brady.

Quick someone post the gif of him trucking a Linebacker!

He ain't broke, he's just taking a break from kicking so much ass!

Roll Ungulates!

[POD Knows]

Another choke underway by the clown car show that is the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Lorne_Malvo]

Foles >>>>> Wentz. Sorry homers.

[POD Knows]

Foles >>>>> Wentz. Sorry homers.
As he throws a pick in the end zone. They are both good QB’s but you are mental on this subject

[Lorne_Malvo]

As he throws a pick in the end zone. They are both good QB’s but you are mental on this subject
30-16 against a 11-2 Rams team. God Wentz fanboys, please get off the koolaid.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Foles magic! It's hard to argue with the results! The sample size against quality competition is eye-opening.

[katss07]

Foles>Wentz. And that shouldn’t even be a question at this point. Wentz needs to be traded and Foles needs to be extended ASAP.

[JSUSoutherner]

Foles >>>>> Wentz. Sorry homers.

I said this earlier. Wentz looks more like a Romo than a Manning.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

30-16 against a 11-2 Rams team. God Wentz fanboys, please get off the koolaid.


Foles plays well but is not better than CW.