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Paladin1aa
January 7th, 2018, 07:50 PM
Things are moving at YSU with personnel and coach moves. First , Pelinis brother Carl is leaving as DC to take the same position at Bowling Green. Next , OC Montgomery is leaving to take the same position at UNC Charlotte. Mostly recently, the rumor has Bozo possibly leaving to be DC at Notre Dame, yet unconfirmed . However, speaking of Notre Dame, YSU has a Graduate transfer QB from Notre Dame ( Monty VonGorder ) coming in. This is the son of the former Fired DC Brian VonGorder at Notre Dame, removed just a few years ago.
The speculation with both coordinators leaving is that Bozo is getting ready to leave or will leave after next season, after 3 straight stinking H. s. Recruit classes. This most recent early class was pretty good for a change.
Current coach McNutt, a former Ohio State star, will become the DC. McNutt recently coached YSUs secondary and he has a good coaching resume'.
Go Lehigh TU Owl
January 7th, 2018, 07:59 PM
So it's basically business as usual in the Mahoning Valley?
I was hoping YSU would emerge as a consistent challenger to NDSU but no dice.
Paladin1aa
January 7th, 2018, 08:07 PM
Sorry, things haven't changed much. It is promising that the most recent early class of 12 signees include an Ohio St. TE transfer, 3 Jucos, all of whom look good and 8 H.S. Signees, most of whom are a significant improvement over the first 3 stinker classes Bozo brought in. With poor QBs on the roster, the new OC hire is faced with a miracle job. No word on who may get that position. However, all eyes are on Bozo. Will he stay or will he go.
BisonBacker
January 8th, 2018, 09:12 AM
Sorry, things haven't changed much. It is promising that the most recent early class of 12 signees include an Ohio St. TE transfer, 3 Jucos, all of whom look good and 8 H.S. Signees, most of whom are a significant improvement over the first 3 stinker classes Bozo brought in. With poor QBs on the roster, the new OC hire is faced with a miracle job. No word on who may get that position. However, all eyes are on Bozo. Will he stay or will he go.
Boy he wore out that welcome pretty quick. Big surprise xrolleyesx
ytownchief22
January 8th, 2018, 02:02 PM
Boy he wore out that welcome pretty quick. Big surprise xrolleyesx
Not so fast on the Bo to Notre Dame talk. He didn't wear anyone or anything out. Everyone knew Bo wasn't going to stay here forever. This recruiting class he brought in is very good. Cupboard is far from bare.
BisonFan02
January 8th, 2018, 02:45 PM
Not so fast on the Bo to Notre Dame talk. He didn't wear anyone or anything out. Everyone knew Bo wasn't going to stay here forever. This recruiting class he brought in is very good. Cupboard is far from bare.
Bo is gone the second the Nebraska money is spent.
clenz
January 8th, 2018, 02:47 PM
Bo is gone the second the Nebraska money is spent.
Payments end in Feb of 2019
I called him being gone within 4 years from the start - not even taking into account when his buyout ended
2018 is his 4th season.
I'm right on pace
BisonFan02
January 8th, 2018, 02:54 PM
Payments end in Feb of 2019
I called him being gone within 4 years from the start - not even taking into account when his buyout ended
2018 is his 4th season.
I'm right on pace
There's no benefit for him to pursue an increase yet since that would just reduce Nebraska's bill. He'll be gone the second that tag along is out of the picture.
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/nebraska-s-bo-pelini-buyout-reduced-to-monthly-payments-of/article_ca7c3c00-f848-11e4-89b7-7fe54c4e2925.html
He'll get a coordinator job somewhere.....
clenz
January 8th, 2018, 02:56 PM
There's no benefit for him to pursue an increase yet since that would just reduce Nebraska's bill. He'll be gone the second that tag along is out of the picture.
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/nebraska-s-bo-pelini-buyout-reduced-to-monthly-payments-of/article_ca7c3c00-f848-11e4-89b7-7fe54c4e2925.html
He'll get a coordinator job somewhere.....
He'll probably let the final 2 or 3 months (Jan and Feb) slide from Nebraska for him to get a different job.
Also, realistically speaking YSU should, by right, fire him after this year unless he puts together a special season. Yeah, he caught magic with that run last year but he's 5-6 and 6-5 on either side of that run. Realistically it's a 6-5 team next year.
17-16 in his 3 other seasons
Making national news recruiting rapists and putting them on the field
Surely that'd get any other coach fired, right?
BisonFan02
January 8th, 2018, 02:57 PM
He'll probably let the final 2 or 3 months (Jan and Feb) slide from Nebraska for him to get a different job.
Probably.
Paladin1aa
January 8th, 2018, 03:08 PM
It boils down to timing . Should he stay another year, which looks like 5-6 or 6-5 next year at this point, he won't have much to show for 4 years . Should he leave now, he still has a National Runnerup and one losing and one average season. Somewhat marketable. The risk, with as thin as they are and with little to build on with 3 straight stinker classes, it's a roll of the dice. As with this season, if juries hit just a couple of key places, a major losing season is possible, say 3-4 wins with two weenie games and an Indiana St/Mo. St. Games as well. Current staff is getting out of Dodge before a roll of the dice. Current Coaches National Convention may produce more surprises. Even if they count on incoming good class of Frosh plus transfers and Jucos, it's still young and vulnerable. And still a wild card how administration feels about the mess he created recruiting the rapist. Always a party with Bozo around.
clenz
January 8th, 2018, 03:21 PM
It boils down to timing . Should he stay another year, which looks like 5-6 or 6-5 next year at this point, he won't have much to show for 4 years . Should he leave now, he still has a National Runnerup and one losing and one average season. Somewhat marketable. The risk, with as thin as they are and with little to build on with 3 straight stinker classes, it's a roll of the dice. As with this season, if juries hit just a couple of key places, a major losing season is possible, say 3-4 wins with two weenie games and an Indiana St/Mo. St. Games as well. Current staff is getting out of Dodge before a roll of the dice. Current Coaches National Convention may produce more surprises. Even if they count on incoming good class of Frosh plus transfers and Jucos, it's still young and vulnerable. And still a wild card how administration feels about the mess he created recruiting the rapist. Always a party with Bozo around.
You're underestimating Bo's want to **** Nebraska.
That's why he took YSU to begin with and why he took it at such a low rate.
Nebraska owes Pelini 6.54m ($142k per month) form his buy out through Feb 19. Whatever he makes from a new school is taken out of that.
Bo took a cut rate pay at YSU specifically to keep Nebraska on the hook. He makes $213k at YSU. That is taken off of his payments. Meaning he is owed 5.something or 128k per month through Feb 19.
He wanted to stick it to Nebraska and took a job at his hometown school for his good friend at a discounted rate.
He's gone the second he's drawn enough blood from Nebraska. He'll land a CUSA, AAC or P5 assistant job when he wants too.
Schism55
January 8th, 2018, 03:30 PM
Things are moving at YSU with personnel and coach moves. First , Pelinis brother Carl is leaving as DC to take the same position at Bowling Green. Next , OC Montgomery is leaving to take the same position at UNC Charlotte. Mostly recently, the rumor has Bozo possibly leaving to be DC at Notre Dame, yet unconfirmed . However, speaking of Notre Dame, YSU has a Graduate transfer QB from Notre Dame ( Monty VonGorder ) coming in. This is the son of the former Fired DC Brian VonGorder at Notre Dame, removed just a few years ago.
The speculation with both coordinators leaving is that Bozo is getting ready to leave or will leave after next season, after 3 straight stinking H. s. Recruit classes. This most recent early class was pretty good for a change.
Current coach McNutt, a former Ohio State star, will become the DC. McNutt recently coached YSUs secondary and he has a good coaching resume'.
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26915&stc=1
He's the son of this goober? Best of luck with that xeyebrowx
BisonFan02
January 8th, 2018, 03:30 PM
You're underestimating Bo's want to **** Nebraska.
That's why he took YSU to begin with and why he took it at such a low rate.
Nebraska owes Pelini 6.54m ($142k per month) form his buy out through Feb 19. Whatever he makes from a new school is taken out of that.
Bo took a cut rate pay at YSU specifically to keep Nebraska on the hook. He makes $213k at YSU. That is taken off of his payments. Meaning he is owed 5.something or 128k per month through Feb 19.
He wanted to stick it to Nebraska and took a job at his hometown school for his good friend at a discounted rate.
He's gone the second he's drawn enough blood from Nebraska. He'll land a CUSA, AAC or P5 assistant job when he wants too.
Annnnnnnnnnd ding! xlolx
ytownchief22
January 8th, 2018, 04:17 PM
Bo is staying for one more year and YSU will make the playoffs this coming year. But 2019 is a whole different story.... Enjoy the ride.
Paladin1aa
January 8th, 2018, 06:22 PM
Bozo was hired for the same money or a slightly higher rate than the previous coach. YSUs pay has never been top notch. But because it was a legitimate rate of pay that he got, he was entitled to the difference Neb. owed him. It was well known Bozo wanted to stick it to them.
the bigger issue is his ego, which is what got him n trouble out there. Getting fired was not because he averaged 9 wins a season and they wanted more and not because of sideline anger management problems nor his flagrant pornographic language . It was because he refused to yield to higher authorities, curbing his issues, backstabbing them as an affront to HIS authority as his ego dictated. He was the coach. He was the expert. He ran a winning program and didn't want anyone sticking their nose in HIS business. So he backstabbed them and tried to undercut their authority. Remember, he had the backing of the legendary former coach who hand picked him. How dare they challenge him.
The Notre Dame QB isn't much help. He was a walkon but who's expenses were covered Because his Dad was a ND employee, the team DC. He eventually was put on schollie when his Dad was fired and played as the holder. He has next to no time as a QB. As bad as YSUs QBs are, there may be one or two better than this kid. Maybe. The incoming Frosh recruit is all of 6',170 soaking wet , dual threat and nowhere ready for beating he would take.
And, Chief, you got to stop smoking that stuff. It's obviously affecting your judgement. No playoffs.
Paladin1aa
January 8th, 2018, 07:47 PM
The other obvious elephant in the room is he has been paid millions and millions of dollars over the years. As a multi-millionaire, he has no need to work. What drives his ego here ? He is "home", the kids are about raised and he has moved around a lot already. His fellow buddy from Youngstown Cardinal Mooney ,Bob Stoops ,retired early from Oklahoma as a multi- millionaire . Is it time to hit the links and laugh at it all ?
ytownchief22
January 8th, 2018, 10:32 PM
Bozo was hired for the same money or a slightly higher rate than the previous coach. YSUs pay has never been top notch. But because it was a legitimate rate of pay that he got, he was entitled to the difference Neb. owed him. It was well known Bozo wanted to stick it to them.
the bigger issue is his ego, which is what got him n trouble out there. Getting fired was not because he averaged 9 wins a season and they wanted more and not because of sideline anger management problems nor his flagrant pornographic language . It was because he refused to yield to higher authorities, curbing his issues, backstabbing them as an affront to HIS authority as his ego dictated. He was the coach. He was the expert. He ran a winning program and didn't want anyone sticking their nose in HIS business. So he backstabbed them and tried to undercut their authority. Remember, he had the backing of the legendary former coach who hand picked him. How dare they challenge him.
The Notre Dame QB isn't much help. He was a walkon but who's expenses were covered Because his Dad was a ND employee, the team DC. He eventually was put on schollie when his Dad was fired and played as the holder. He has next to no time as a QB. As bad as YSUs QBs are, there may be one or two better than this kid. Maybe. The incoming Frosh recruit is all of 6',170 soaking wet , dual threat and nowhere ready for beating he would take.
And, Chief, you got to stop smoking that stuff. It's obviously affecting your judgement. No playoffs.
Not all doom and gloom Pally. Carl left because he wants another chance to become a HC. It's still Bo's defense. Montgomery leaving is the best thing that could've happened to this program. He was told he had no chance to become the HC so he bounced to become OC at possibly the worst FBS program in the nation, good luck to him lol. If the QB situation can shape up and not be so terrible, the talent is here to be a playoff team with the transfers coming in this year.
Paladin1aa
January 9th, 2018, 11:16 AM
The talent ? LOL. Stop smoking that stuff. You are reaching moron level along with moRon.
The QB situation is truly abysmal. There are no OTs, none. The rest of the OL is thin, no depth. RBs are ok. WRs and TEs are problematic. Most are busts. There are holes in the D. A headjob for a kicker. New OC. And possible coach changes still to come. You should have a few drinks with what you are smoking. NO PLAYOFFS.
Bozo has passed on recruiting Florida where we got many, many starters from and most of those were All Stars. He has 3 straight stinker H.S. Classes. Most recent early class is pretty good. Too little, too late.
I would guess that the MVFC Pre-season Media poll will have them picked in the lower half of the league. 7th would be fair. The other Board is clueless, as usual. Most missed on predictions for YSU last year, again. But, of course, I was on the money again with my projection. You guys need to be fans and stop being cheerleaders. Cheerleaders never get anything changed, only more of the same.
Paladin1aa
January 9th, 2018, 03:04 PM
BTW, Chief, tell the guys on the board to stop clamoring about recruiting local "stars". That's one of the sins that killed the program under Heacock. Bozo shares the similar sin. Trying to mollify the locals will kill a program. Here's Bozos recruiting problems --
1. He has abandoned Florida where YSU had great success getting All Star players.
2. The Youngstown area is a shell of itself, has an abundance of D-III and D-II players but only a handful of D-I. Most that YSU recruit here struggle to play. Most of the time, it's a wasted schollie.
3.Bozo still recruits undersized players at many positions.
4. While he's had great success with the transfers and Jucos, if not for them, the program would be trashed. The ND QB and OSU TE are problematic. Neither may be much help.
5. While I like the big school parochial players he gets, they still bring in small school stars more adaptable to D-II level play who may not play here until a senior. Talent level is dropping.
6. I'm told the rapist recruiting is producing polices that may make future "characters" persona non grata.
Bisonator
January 9th, 2018, 03:08 PM
The other obvious elephant in the room is he has been paid millions and millions of dollars over the years. As a multi-millionaire, he has no need to work. What drives his ego here ? He is "home", the kids are about raised and he has moved around a lot already. His fellow buddy from Youngstown Cardinal Mooney ,Bob Stoops ,retired early from Oklahoma as a multi- millionaire . Is it time to hit the links and laugh at it all ?
What's he going to blow his stack on a caddy?xlolx
Penguin Nation
January 9th, 2018, 11:07 PM
I've decided to commemorate Bo's time at YSU with a Haiku.
No playoffs again
Nebraska players all gone
Must recruit felons
Paladin1aa
January 10th, 2018, 01:05 PM
All true, PN. And what is even funnier, a lot of folks on the other board actually think they will be better than the 6-5 outfit he put on the field this year.
lots of speculation if more coaches are going to bail out soon. Or who the new OC will be.
And for a new parlor game this winter, what type O do you construct around the collection of abysmal QBs for next year ? lol
Penguin Nation
January 12th, 2018, 11:25 AM
All true, PN. And what is even funnier, a lot of folks on the other board actually think they will be better than the 6-5 outfit he put on the field this year.
lots of speculation if more coaches are going to bail out soon. Or who the new OC will be.
And for a new parlor game this winter, what type O do you construct around the collection of abysmal QBs for next year ? lol
I actually see the QB situation differently. Wells was the worst QB I've witnessed at YSU. Ever. The substantial negative rushing yards and poor passing efficiency confirm that. So anything else is
an upgrade. YSU is STACKED with great rushers. I confess I don't follow the Rapist Recruiters as closely as I used to, but I suppose playoffs are possible at 7-4...if you subtract the auto-wins (OOC, MSU, ISUb), then you only have to win 3 out of 7 games.
Paladin1aa
January 12th, 2018, 02:09 PM
Well, let's see......... 4 losses ?. Weak team next year, no QB, OL in trouble, no decent WRs and TEs because of graduation, very good RBs, agreed. New OC, new DC, headjob at K, holes in the secondary and LB talent leaving. No depth except at RB, so injuries anywhere else is the path to a losing season.
So, loss to FBS, NDS, SDS, UNI and now you are down to ISUr, SIU, USD. Wins against the two OOC weenies and ISUb, maybe MSU. How many are road games ? And you are not factoring in Bozos tirades on the sideline costing them a potential win. No crowds for homes games, so home field advantage isn't there. I still remember the home game spanking SDS put on them when it was cold anD snowy. Who are they going to beat for sure to get to 7-4 ?
They were a bottom half team in the league last year With their overall record and have horrible problems this year. So they will be better ? lol
Paladin1aa
January 12th, 2018, 02:38 PM
Oops, forgot schedule changes. 5 road games - WVU, WIU, SDS,NDS and ISUr. All appear to be up next year. I project they lose all 5. Home games with Butler and Valpo ( gimme a break ), SIU,USD, UNI and ISUb. Both UNI and USD beat them last year.
You want to rethink this ?
Penguin Nation
January 15th, 2018, 07:15 PM
Oops, forgot schedule changes. 5 road games - WVU, WIU, SDS,NDS and ISUr. All appear to be up next year. I project they lose all 5. Home games with Butler and Valpo ( gimme a break ), SIU,USD, UNI and ISUb. Both UNI and USD beat them last year.
You want to rethink this ?
2018 schedule:
http://ysusports.com/sports/fball/2018-19/schedule
The November meltdowns may resume, and they'll need to enter November with no more than 2 losses. It seems like a tall order, but if they establish a TOP burning rushing based offense, resting the defense, maybe 7-4 can happen. I think you'll know the tenor of the season with the WIU, SIU games...if not 2-0 in MVFC play....then playoffs a long shot. I noticed MSU not on schedule....ouch.
Paladin1aa
January 15th, 2018, 09:12 PM
Yep, MSU is replaced with WIU. So an easy win no longer there. Western was up last year. Don't see them dropping. Unless things seriously change with NLOID and they add more and better transfers/Jucos, next year is a problem. 5-6/6-5 and same as this past year ....... With injuries, they could be worse.
Big time run game takes a solid line (they don't have this) and QB who is a serious pass threat (don't have this either). Reality dead ahead.
Lorne_Malvo
January 16th, 2018, 02:08 AM
I've decided to commemorate Bo's time at YSU with a Haiku.
No playoffs again
Nebraska players all gone
Must recruit felons
I like it.
Paladin1aa
February 11th, 2018, 02:01 PM
Today's big news is -- YSU opened Spring Practice today -- in the middle of winter. Yes, Bozo is in search of.............. well I'm not sure what he is in search of, but Spring practice opened today. He has both transfers and several of the Jucos to the roster that returns. While they can practice in their excellent indoor facility, everyone is wondering if they will hold a Spring game there because of bad weather outside, limiting the spectators for the game. Fun and games in Youngstown......
Paladin1aa
February 26th, 2018, 03:42 PM
The big news coming out of Spring Practice is.......................... There will not be a Spring Game. Yep. No Red-White game. Seems they are so thin they can't take a chance on injuries. And this also involves almost no contact in drills....... work on fundamentals, techniques, going over plays and Ds, etc. But limited hitting. It seems the ND transfer will get the nod at QB after a career on not playing for two years and holding for kicks for two years. My warning. About having a thin OL should be updated.......... They have NO OL. Years of poor recruiting is unfolding the upcoming disaster. Good thing they got the Juco WRs as they will start over the woeful collection of poor H.S. Talent Bozo recruited. It should be obvious to all but a blind man, they are still looking for transfers and Jucos. lol
More to come.
clenz
February 26th, 2018, 03:54 PM
UNI didn’t have one last year. I know injuries and surgery recovery were part of it. I heard something like 25 kids had surgery after the 2016 season.
There was also some conspiracy theorists who saw more into it.
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Paladin1aa
February 26th, 2018, 08:24 PM
YSU did not have 25 post season surgeries, lol.
My money is still on they are still searching desparately for more transfers and Jucos.
oh, and as I predicted, the rapist is going to start at DE
Penguin Nation
February 27th, 2018, 09:53 AM
YSU did not have 25 post season surgeries, lol.
My money is still on they are still searching desparately for more transfers and Jucos.
oh, and as I predicted, the rapist is going to start at DE
What a way to transform a school rich in history to a circus sideshow. Will the rapist be featured on Penguin Playbook, be interviewed post-game pressers, or interviewed by local media during practice? Will the dozen or so fans attending the games make signs cheering on their star rapist?
The delays in East Stands construction is interesting...why spend $$ on a floundering team no one cares to see.
Also, I give the Wolf and the playoff scheduling committee equal credit for the 2016 season Natty appearance....Bo only with limited contribution toward that run. On the whole, his time at YSU has been a disaster.
Paladin1aa
February 27th, 2018, 10:34 AM
Yep, the East stands delay is a true tragedy. Another Strollo screw up. Bet the cheerleaders still support the loser AD.
No question the Natty appearance was because of Wolf's players plus Neb. transfer and couple of Jucos. Otherwise Bozo has almost nothing to show for his time here. Poor recruiter as this isn't Nebraska where he had all kinds of advantages over most all the West Big 10. He has blown what advantage in recruiting the Natty SHOULD have given him.
Still looking for for more negative surprise from Spring ball.
Paladin1aa
March 2nd, 2018, 10:50 AM
Well, a former YSU player made the newspapers today. Nick Roberts Jr. Was sent back to prison for a second time for parole violations. He previously was in for a violent domestic violence charge and later paroled. He was a multi-year starter at 6', 320 at OG. He carried the nickname of the "Roadgrader" on the team.
The Yo Show
March 3rd, 2018, 01:02 AM
Look he hasn't played for YSU since 02, 03? I'm not familiar with his case paladin. Was he convicted of anything while playing or were the domestic charges and sentencing and paroling after he was done with school? Because if it was then how is this relevant? He played high school ball and champion. Are we going to blame champion high school for his actions?
I get being upset about Richmond. Don't get why this should be mentioned or why the attempt to throw more shade at ysu.
Paladin1aa
March 3rd, 2018, 08:57 AM
Yo -- news is news , good or bad. Don't shoot the messenger. That's the problem with the cheerleader board. They want nothing but good news. Program goes to hell, but all they want is good news, good old boy politics and censorship.
I have little to give you other than he was given a one year sentence to prison, got early parole but didn't show for reporting into his parole officer and he was sent back for remaining 9 months of sentence. They also had his pic in the paper.
Penguin Nation
March 3rd, 2018, 03:06 PM
The Roberts story matters in this aspect.....what is he history of cultural acceptance of misogyny at YSU? We know there is a culture of underacheivement and entitlement. The Rapist Recruitment exposed the current acceptance and even promotion of misogyny, but how far back does it go?
The Yo Show
March 4th, 2018, 01:15 AM
Not trying to shoot a messenger or anything, but just saying if we are gonna look at this logically, I'm failing to see relevance. I will give you that I guess it is news paladin.
Nation you cannot make that point without saying it is a stretch. For goodness sake you yourself have claimed before this culture with a rapist is all pelinis fault (which is hard to argue with) but this dude would have been under Jon Heacock. You think Heacock had such an atmosphere in the locker room? Besides that, if this guy got a prison sentence and hasn't played for ysu football in 15 years or so, can you really blame his ills on ysu? That's why I'm saying this seems like stretching to me. But that's how I'm looking at this and I'm trying really hard to look at it logically and objectively.
Penguin Nation
March 4th, 2018, 08:18 AM
Not trying to shoot a messenger or anything, but just saying if we are gonna look at this logically, I'm failing to see relevance. I will give you that I guess it is news paladin.
Nation you cannot make that point without saying it is a stretch. For goodness sake you yourself have claimed before this culture with a rapist is all pelinis fault (which is hard to argue with) but this dude would have been under Jon Heacock. You think Heacock had such an atmosphere in the locker room? Besides that, if this guy got a prison sentence and hasn't played for ysu football in 15 years or so, can you really blame his ills on ysu? That's why I'm saying this seems like stretching to me. But that's how I'm looking at this and I'm trying really hard to look at it logically and objectively.
Hey yo, the answer is IDK. I was just asking the question based on limited info.
There's no way Pelini could recruit a convicted gang rapist/registered sex offender without the acceptance from others, including the AD, BOT, and Tressel. So it is a safe conclusion that YSU currently has a policy tolerating, and promoting misogyny. But how far back does it go? The term of a BOT is 9 years, the AD has been there since 2000, and Tressel was the AD before him. So, if these same exact people tolerate and promote misogyny now, isn't it a reasonable conclusion that they may have previously? As far as Heacock goes, just because he was a quiet underachiever who embraced losing doesn't mean he wasn't complicit also.
Paladin1aa
March 4th, 2018, 10:44 AM
I'll add this -- Roberts Dad was an area Head Football coach, Champion I believe and long , long time involved in coaching/ teaching. The irony here is that Roberts major at YSU was.................................... Wait for it................. criminal justice.
While not great news about a former YSU player ,there are numerous bad news stories about former players all the time. And while I understand there are those who would prefer to sweep these under a rug, it is amazing how many of those same people are content to have a poor athletic dept and not make and raise holy hell about making changes for a stronger program by *****canning the incompetents. You can't hide criminality and backslap the good old boys ruining the program. If you want nothing but good news, you have to step up and do the right thing getting rid of the good old boys who continue to destroy a former Cadillac program.
If you don't think those are related, then I care not what you think.
Paladin1aa
March 18th, 2018, 08:38 PM
YSU ended Spring practice. There was no spring game. Little progress was made. Appears the Notre Dame grad transfer has the edge over a backup QB. The WRs still need work but appears two Jucos will start. My thoughts are Mallory appears better hands than the former Oklahoma/Juco Farrar. The major problem remains the OL. I just don't see this team improved over last year. D also remains a question mark. The major theme for the team overall is a lack of depth almost everywhere except at RB. Injuries this year could drop them below 6-5 for a losing season. Not impressed with the new reassigned coaches at OC and DC.
Penguin Nation
March 20th, 2018, 08:45 AM
YSU ended Spring practice. There was no spring game. Little progress was made. Appears the Notre Dame grad transfer has the edge over a backup QB. The WRs still need work but appears two Jucos will start. My thoughts are Mallory appears better hands than the former Oklahoma/Juco Farrar. The major problem remains the OL. I just don't see this team improved over last year. D also remains a question mark. The major theme for the team overall is a lack of depth almost everywhere except at RB. Injuries this year could drop them below 6-5 for a losing season. Not impressed with the new reassigned coaches at OC and DC.
The 2018 schedule is a much more difficult one than 2017, in which the rapist et al went 6-5/4-4. A home game withe MSU is replaced by an away game with playoff participant WIU. Home games with the top MVFC schools (NDSU, SDSU, ISUr) are now away games. WVU is >> Pitt. This could be another losing season for the rapist recruiter.
Speaking of WIU, its interesting to see their OOC schedule: the Griz, Montana State, and Illinois. No 1AAA squads like Scumbag U fills their OOC schedule with.
Redbird 4th & short
March 20th, 2018, 09:42 AM
The 2018 schedule is a much more difficult one than 2017, in which the rapist et al went 6-5/4-4. A home game withe MSU is replaced by an away game with playoff participant WIU. Home games with the top MVFC schools (NDSU, SDSU, ISUr) are now away games. WVU is >> Pitt. This could be another losing season for the rapist recruiter.
Speaking of WIU, its interesting to see their OOC schedule: the Griz, Montana State, and Illinois. No 1AAA squads like Scumbag U fills their OOC schedule with.
I don't think YSU needs to apologize for their SOS .. they play in the MVFC, which routinely has 7 teams in top 25, and almost always play a pretty good FBS tough. So scheduling 2 patsies instead of 1 is not ideal, but still nothing to apologize for .. your SOS is usually top 10 to 15 in all of FCS. Most conferences have at least 4-5 patsies within their conference schedule, plus another nonconf patsy to pad their 7+ win resume with.
Paladin1aa
March 20th, 2018, 01:33 PM
I'll post a series of notes on personnel . First the QBs. --
VanGorder, the Notre Dame grad transfer should start. 6'1, 220. Hard to judge him as no game experience other than holding for kicks the last two years. Bozo likes a dual threat O. They had QBs in black jerseys (no tackling) in Spring ball, so we saw very little. Has some skills, but potential for INTs , fumbles or decision makings are all unknown . Also, is he that much of a run threat ? Not excited about this.
Mays, 6'3, 210, last years backup and part time starter remains the back up unless he transfers out. Limited pass abilities ,decision making average, average run abilities. Two years eligibility remaining.
Craycraft, 6'3, 190, RFR , decent arm but would not call him a strong runner. If they are serious about having a dual threat QB, they need someone more athletic, stronger and better runner.
Collins, 6'7, 215, RFR, the QB of Ohio Champ Bishop Hartley is a project. Don't really see him playing here. Transfer prospect.
Long story short, if VanGorder gets hurt or is very average, they are in deep *****
Paladin1aa
March 20th, 2018, 02:00 PM
Next, the WRs/Slot. Won't list all players at all positions as many won't play, walk ons, etc.
Farrar, 6'4,215, Soph, the Oklahoma/Juco transfer is a physical specimen . Did not play much in Spring ball as he had a thumb injury. Talented, strong, but can he catch in traffic ? He should start. However, concerned he could be a head case
Mallory, 6'2, 210, Jr. Juco should start on opposite side. Excellent hands, runs good routes. Played in a pass happy California Juco league. This guy is the one to keep an eye on. Had great catch record at the Juco.
Shackelford, 6'4, 195, Jr. Back up last year with limited play time. He should see much more time.
St. Surin, 5'11,190, Soph. Only returner for YSU who actually caught a pass last year for Guins. Fast, good hands and decent runner. He will start or play a lot.
Braswell, 6'0, 215,Jr. Strong player with good hands who also blocks well. He will also see a lot of play time
Coates, 5'10, 170, Soph. The starting PR, he has great hands, good speed and is fearless. May get to play more than special teams this year.
They need to find more players than these six. Team is very thin here.
Paladin1aa
March 20th, 2018, 02:18 PM
RBs -- strongest position on the team.
McCaster ,5'10, 195, Sr. last years starter.shifty, great field vision and balance. Good hands and usually secure with the football. If he stays healthy, YSU has a serious run game.
Turner, 5'10,190,Soph. Last years backup. Another speedster with good vision and balance. Also has great hands. He will play a lot and if starting, still provides a solid run game.
Alessi, 5'10 , 195, Jr. Another backup from last year. Special teams player. A step down but solid.
Pearson, 5' 11, 185, Soph. Son of former Ohio St. And Pro RB Pepe Pearson. Xcellent field vision, great balance, good hands. Cuts on a dime and has a second gear. With experience he has a lot of upside.
Chapman, 6'2,215, RFR. Two star recruit, ranked as 52 best player in Pa. ! All State and lead Farrell to the Pa. State championship game. Talented, but needs play time. Diamond n the rough.
Paladin1aa
March 20th, 2018, 03:13 PM
TEs -- very thin here and abilities are limited.
Hawkins, 6'3, 250, Soph. Ohio St. recruit, red shirted one year and sat the bench one year.Transferred to YSU. Former all state players at RB, wildcat, WR and D. Good athlete but no experience at TE. At YSU, he will be a blocker.
Durkin, 6'4, 235, 5th year Sr. Former QB from Ursuline who transferred from Virginia Tech. Didn't play much at Tech and converted to TE at YSU. Limited abilities. Little experience .
Burgett,6'5,250, Soph. One of Bozos recruits. Limited receiver , average blocker. A downgrade from what is usually a strong position at YSU.
Joiner, 6'4, 215, RFR. Only played two years H.S. Football. Played basketball. Undersized. Poor blocker. Hands need work.
Penguin Nation
March 20th, 2018, 04:05 PM
TEs -- very thin here and abilities are limited.
Hawkins, 6'3, 250, Soph. Ohio St. recruit, red shirted one year and sat the bench one year.Transferred to YSU. Former all state players at RB, wildcat, WR and D. Good athlete but no experience at TE. At YSU, he will be a blocker.
Durkin, 6'4, 235, 5th year Sr. Former QB from Ursuline who transferred from Virginia Tech. Didn't play much at Tech and converted to TE at YSU. Limited abilities. Little experience .
Burgett,6'5,250, Soph. One of Bozos recruits. Limited receiver , average blocker. A downgrade from what is usually a strong position at YSU.
Joiner, 6'4, 215, RFR. Only played two years H.S. Football. Played basketball. Undersized. Poor blocker. Hands need work.
Is he related to Leo Hawkins, who played for YSU in the late 1980s?
Paladin1aa
March 20th, 2018, 04:16 PM
OL -- they need help here. Very weak, no depth and will need to move players around, either to start or back up
Wiggins, 6'4,300, Sr. Wolf's last recruit. Returning starter OG and All league potential. Good feet, aggressive.
Hrynkiewicz 6'4, 300, Sr. Returning starting C, potential All league, smart, good techniques.
Sharp 6'4,305, Sr. Air Force transfer OG, started numerous games last year.
Zinni, 6'4, 305, Jr. OG, started several games but was a back up
Herr, 6'4, 335 Soph. OT weak and in need of experience, footwork not good and techniques need work
Creek 6'4, 290 Jr. OG. Juco , may need to play out of position. Not very impressive.
Robinson 6'6 ,300 Jr. OG. Juco. He may also need to play out of position.
Hauschild 6'6, 300 RFR, OT. Inexperienced and hasn't shown much yet.
Paladin1aa
March 20th, 2018, 04:35 PM
PN -- to my knowledge Hawkins is not related. He played at Maple Hts n the Cleveland suburbs. He was used to running the ball in HS and did not play TE until recruited to OSU. His H.S. Coach used to coach at East Cleveland Shaw where he loved to hammer teams with a 235-250 RB or Wildcat QB. We had a great kid a few years ago that started in the Slot For YSU from Maple Hts. He was small, very fast and had great hands, played on Maple's state Championship team ( and I can't remember his name ???????).
Paladin1aa
March 21st, 2018, 05:14 PM
Next --DT. They need some help here as a 4 man rotation is used and only 3 make the grade.
Smith, 6'1, 295, Sr. He is our best.
Ragland, 6'1, 295, SR. He should also start
Thompson, 6'0, 285, Soph. He will play and after that, it's a mystery
Paladin1aa
March 21st, 2018, 05:25 PM
DEs -- have some experience here. Strong position
Reed, 6'3, 250, Sr. The Florida transfer may be our best
Richmond, 6'4, 250, Jr. The rapist will probably start too.
Louigene, 6'3, 250, Sr. Also capable of starting
Bynum, 6'4, 245, Jr. Should develope
Cook, 6'4, 255, RFR. Lots of potential, talented 3 star recruit.
Paladin1aa
March 22nd, 2018, 11:34 AM
LBs -- there are some question marks here.
Dellovade, 6'0, 215,Sr. Three time MVFC honoree is the bedrock
Newell, 6'1, 210, Jr.
Mitchell,6'0, 220, Jr.
Pollock, 6'0, 210, Soph, Rutgers transfer should see some play time
Hoak, 6'1, 215, FR. Early enrollee may make some noise
Parks, 6'1, 230, Jr
Bryant, 5'11, 210, Soph
Randall-Posey, 6'2, 200, Jr
Paladin1aa
March 22nd, 2018, 11:45 AM
DBs -- some obvious starters and some average talent
Hegedus, 5'11, 190, Sr. One starter at S
Larkin, 5'11, 185, Sr. one starter at CB
Gibson, 5'10, 180, Soph, CB
Lee, 6'1, 180, Sr.,CB
Taylor, 6'3, 175, Sr., S
Smalls, 6'0, 170, Jr. CB
McGuigan, 6'0 , 190, Soph. S
Winn ,6'2, 185, Soph. S
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