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Redbird 4th & short
February 19th, 2018, 05:21 PM
I don't dude, I have eaten deep dish pizza a few times and I have eaten it in Chicago and there was no way that baby was going down without a fork.
most do use fork and knife for XL deep dish or stuffed, either to avoid getting messy during dinner, .... or if too big and heavy, the a pie cut crust will be harder to manage. But it can be done with hands only if made right .. crispy strong crust, don't let it get soggy with veggies or tomato sauce.

Malnati's makes a deep dish that usually holds up. Giordanos 1 1/2 inch stuffed will usually hold up .. the 2 1/2 inch stuffed is certainly a challenge .. if they did it right.

By the way, many alleged Chicago area pizzerias have been known to ruin pizza by not doing the crust right .. whichever style. It is the first thing I notice when I try a new pizza place. I won't go back if they screw up the crust. Other times, it is self imposed when customer puts too much crap on their pizza. My view is .. order a damn salad if you want to ruin a perfectly good pizza with all that veggie stuff. Do that to a deep dish or stuffed, and then you have that casserole crap.

Proven statistical fact .. 90% or more of leftover pizza at all parties ever thrown, are the ones with all the veggie crap.

BisonFan02
February 19th, 2018, 06:24 PM
NY Style or GTFO. xlolx

POD Knows
February 19th, 2018, 06:31 PM
most do use fork and knife for XL deep dish or stuffed, either to avoid getting messy during dinner, .... or if too big and heavy, the a pie cut crust will be harder to manage. But it can be done with hands only if made right .. crispy strong crust, don't let it get soggy with veggies or tomato sauce.

Malnati's makes a deep dish that usually holds up. Giordanos 1 1/2 inch stuffed will usually hold up .. the 2 1/2 inch stuffed is certainly a challenge .. if they did it right.

By the way, many alleged Chicago area pizzerias have been known to ruin pizza by not doing the crust right .. whichever style. It is the first thing I notice when I try a new pizza place. I won't go back if they screw up the crust. Other times, it is self imposed when customer puts too much crap on their pizza. My view is .. order a damn salad if you want to ruin a perfectly good pizza with all that veggie stuff. Do that to a deep dish or stuffed, and then you have that casserole crap.

Proven statistical fact .. 90% or more of leftover pizza at all parties ever thrown, are the ones with all the veggie crap.
Veggies are all water, they will screw up the best crust if there are a lot of them on there. Also, people that put uncooked sausage or bacon on pizza should be flogged.

Redbird 4th & short
February 19th, 2018, 06:41 PM
Veggies are all water, they will screw up the best crust if there are a lot of them on there. Also, people that put uncooked sausage or bacon on pizza should be flogged.
your 'za cred is growing with each post

caribbeanhen
February 19th, 2018, 07:05 PM
Veggies are all water, they will screw up the best crust if there are a lot of them on there. Also, people that put uncooked sausage or bacon on pizza should be flogged.

how come you understand Pizza having never been to the Atlantic shore?

TheKingpin28
February 19th, 2018, 07:23 PM
So the best thing about Chicago Pizza, is not simply "Chicago Style" deep dish or stuffed pizza. The best thing is we do a wide variety of pizza styles depending on your tastes ... and none of them casserole like in any way. We have Thin, Super Thin (no, not flat bread), Thick, Rustic, Deep Dish, and Stuffed (noth 2 1/2 and 1 1/2 inch). Our Thin and Super Thin crusts actually hold firm. not that droopy crap they like so much in NY.

Some recommended samples from Chicago area are below .. and none of which will disappoint.

Deep Dish from Lou Malnati's

http://www.seriouseats.com/images/2014/05/20140525-294370-best-deep-dish-pizza-lou-malnatis-1.jpg

Stuffed Pizza from Giordano's

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRl0GFG38hIbKAjZWGLDeB_iD3_n0Ui Dzk5cylSgxxFUn0ydNKnw (https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgiordanos.com%2Fcontent %2Fuploads%2Freheating-deep-dish-pizza.png&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fgiordanos.com%2Fchapter-5-how-to-reheat-pizza%2F&docid=xONS08n_HcdDCM&tbnid=xhF3BYXIknGnrM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwj645XH7bLZAhXlUt8KHTZmDIEQMwj_AShdMF0. .i&w=1200&h=628&bih=377&biw=847&q=nancy%27s%20stuffed%20pizza&ved=0ahUKEwj645XH7bLZAhXlUt8KHTZmDIEQMwj_AShdMF0&iact=mrc&uact=8)


Or we can go back to basics with a crispy Thin Crust from Nancy's .. case closed !!!


http://www.nancyspizza.com/uploads/1/5/9/4/15946036/5744450_orig.png


Nancy's in Wheaton deep dish is where it was!

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clenz
February 19th, 2018, 08:18 PM
Anyone that uses “Za” when talking about pizza isn’t allowed to have an opinion.


As for the casserole vs hot dish I general casseroles use lighter meats such as tuna and chicken, while hot dishes use red meat. Hot dishes also use more condensed soup varieties like cream of mushroom. Casseroles employ lighter ones such as stock, vegetable juices and wine.

At this point it’s half a dozen of one and 6 of the other through most places.


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POD Knows
February 19th, 2018, 09:00 PM
how come you understand Pizza having never been to the Atlantic shore?
I have been to the Atlantic shore. I have been to NYC a couple times. I took a shower in an outdoor shower in the Hamptons. I get around.

Bisonoline
February 19th, 2018, 09:14 PM
Veggies are all water, they will screw up the best crust if there are a lot of them on there. Also, people that put uncooked sausage or bacon on pizza should be flogged.


Thats why you need a high temp pizza deck to pull the moisture away from the pizza. The conveyor system and electric pizza ovens just cant do that.

Raw bacon--boo. Raw italian sausage is very common in a good pizza house with good ovens. Precooked sausage is for conveyors and electric ovens.

Plus too many ingredients will ruin any pizza.

There also has to be a balance between the right crust so it crisps and the flow of cheese-melt-browning (which is dictated by the butter fat content). They both have to hit their point at the same time.

Alot of people dont realize that most of the grease they see on the pizza doesnt come from meat proteins but from the cheese.

cx500d
February 19th, 2018, 09:25 PM
Anyone that uses “Za” when talking about pizza isn’t allowed to have an opinion.


As for the casserole vs hot dish I general casseroles use lighter meats such as tuna and chicken, while hot dishes use red meat. Hot dishes also use more condensed soup varieties like cream of mushroom. Casseroles employ lighter ones such as stock, vegetable juices and wine.

At this point it’s half a dozen of one and 6 of the other through most places.


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Your explanation more or less lies in line with how my mother termed her concoctions.


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Redbird 4th & short
February 19th, 2018, 09:34 PM
Anyone that uses “Za” when talking about pizza isn’t allowed to have an opinion.




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fair point .. I got a little excited to have someone here who actually understands pizza.

TheKingpin28
February 19th, 2018, 10:27 PM
Your explanation more or less lies in line with how my mother termed her concoctions.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI always thought hotdish was tater tots and casserole was without tater tots? That is how I was raised.

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ST_Lawson
February 19th, 2018, 10:34 PM
I know we talk pizza in these parts, but someone mentioned hot potato salad and I just gotta mention the best potato salad I have ever had. If any of you guys ever make it down to Dekalb, IL...like if you're playing NIU or something...stop by Fatty's Pub and Grille. It's literally under 1,000 ft from their video board to the entrance to the Fatty's parking lot. Now, the burgers there are great, but they have something called Cajun Fried Potato Salad...and damn if that isn't the best potato salad...hell, it's the best appetizer...that I have ever tasted.
It's probably crazy busy right after a game, but if you can get in there, it's worth it.
Location: https://goo.gl/maps/q3hWUG9YA4w
Menu: https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/48f236_e211ba0b1f1f437a9d4d1cb159dfa63b.pdf
(https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/48f236_e211ba0b1f1f437a9d4d1cb159dfa63b.pdf)

Bisonoline
February 19th, 2018, 11:14 PM
Anyone that uses “Za” when talking about pizza isn’t allowed to have an opinion.


As for the casserole vs hot dish I general casseroles use lighter meats such as tuna and chicken, while hot dishes use red meat. Hot dishes also use more condensed soup varieties like cream of mushroom. Casseroles employ lighter ones such as stock, vegetable juices and wine.

At this point it’s half a dozen of one and 6 of the other through most places.


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Coming from a cold lasagna muncher ? xlolx

Whats funny if the first time I had ever heard the term ZA was in Iowa when I went to school there.

Twentysix
February 20th, 2018, 03:34 AM
Coming from a cold lasagna muncher ? xlolx

Whats funny if the first time I had ever heard the term ZA was in Iowa when I went to school there.

Za kinda sounds like something someone from the midwest would think a surfer bro would say.

I'm going to try my best to only say za from now on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkP2F7kWn7A

POD Knows
February 20th, 2018, 08:12 AM
I always thought hotdish was tater tots and casserole was without tater tots? That is how I was raised.

Sent from my SM-J727V using TapatalkNo, you were raised wrong. Hotdishes have meat and casseroles do not, ie., macaroni hotdish or green bean casserole, one has hamburger and one doesn't. Clenz has a pretty good description of hotdish and casserole based on the type of meat in the dish, like Tuna Casserole or Chicken Casserole, light meats in a dish sometimes carried the casserole name.

POD Knows
February 20th, 2018, 08:15 AM
Thats why you need a high temp pizza deck to pull the moisture away from the pizza. The conveyor system and electric pizza ovens just cant do that.

Raw bacon--boo. Raw italian sausage is very common in a good pizza house with good ovens. Precooked sausage is for conveyors and electric ovens.

Plus too many ingredients will ruin any pizza.

There also has to be a balance between the right crust so it crisps and the flow of cheese-melt-browning (which is dictated by the butter fat content). They both have to hit their point at the same time.

Alot of people dont realize that most of the grease they see on the pizza doesnt come from meat proteins but from the cheese.Good point on the sausage thing, the better joints with the ovens that hit 800 degrees or higher, you can get by with uncooked sausage, but if you are cooking pizza at 400 or 450, you better cook the sausage first.

TheKingpin28
February 20th, 2018, 10:09 AM
No, you were raised wrong. Hotdishes have meat and casseroles do not, ie., macaroni hotdish or green bean casserole, one has hamburger and one doesn't. Clenz has a pretty good description of hotdish and casserole based on the type of meat in the dish, like Tuna Casserole or Chicken Casserole, light meats in a dish sometimes carried the casserole name.

I guess the Welsh side of my family ensured that I ate corned beef and hash growing up so my "interpretation" might be considered off.

BTW, never heard of macaroni hotdish. Just tater tot hotdish.

TheKingpin28
February 20th, 2018, 10:09 AM
Good point on the sausage thing, the better joints with the ovens that hit 800 degrees or higher, you can get by with uncooked sausage, but if you are cooking pizza at 400 or 450, you better cook the sausage first.

Now I want Punch Pizza.

POD Knows
February 20th, 2018, 10:13 AM
I guess the Welsh side of my family ensured that I ate corned beef and hash growing up so my "interpretation" might be considered off.

BTW, never heard of macaroni hotdish. Just tater tot hotdish.http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27140&stc=1

TheKingpin28
February 20th, 2018, 10:15 AM
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27140&stc=1

You learn something new every day.

Yote 53
February 20th, 2018, 03:01 PM
Ick, the only thing worse than cold or room temp pizza is soggy nuke pizza. Heat your oven up, throw that baby in there for about 5 to 10 minutes and you actually have reborn, edible pizza.

You realize that was a joke, right? It was about killing microorganisms in the microwave.

I drop the leftover pizza in the oven and set the oven to 400 degrees. When the oven goes through preheat and finally gets to 400 and the oven dings the pizza is done and time to take out.

Yote 53
February 20th, 2018, 03:20 PM
Anyone that uses “Za” when talking about pizza isn’t allowed to have an opinion.


As for the casserole vs hot dish I general casseroles use lighter meats such as tuna and chicken, while hot dishes use red meat. Hot dishes also use more condensed soup varieties like cream of mushroom. Casseroles employ lighter ones such as stock, vegetable juices and wine.

At this point it’s half a dozen of one and 6 of the other through most places.


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This is correct when talking about casseroles vs hotdishes. These days though, the names are interchangeable and the term you use depends on where you are from. I generally break it down this way, North of I-90 = hotdish, South of I - 90 = casserole. I-90 generally being the Iowa/Minnesota border but it is also applicable in dividing southeast South Dakota from northeast South Dakota and North Dakota. The further north you get you are more likely to hear it referred to as hotdish. My mother's Tater Tot Casserole (Iowa) and my wife's Tater Tot Hotdish (northern South Dakota) are exactly the same in all but name. My mother calls every dish of this style a casserole while my wife calls every dish of this style a hotdish.

POD Knows
February 20th, 2018, 03:24 PM
You realize that was a joke, right? It was about killing microorganisms in the microwave.

I drop the leftover pizza in the oven and set the oven to 400 degrees. When the oven goes through preheat and finally gets to 400 and the oven dings the pizza is done and time to take out.People were talking about eating lasagna cold, it thought everything was probably fair game at that point in time

Bisonator
February 20th, 2018, 03:33 PM
OK now let's break down goulash? xlolx

cx500d
February 20th, 2018, 06:14 PM
OK now let's break down goulash? xlolx

Hot dish or casserole with paprika.


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clenz
February 20th, 2018, 06:58 PM
OK now let's break down goulash? xlolx
What's to break down? Just throw whatever **** you have laying around in a pot and heat it up.

CappinHard
February 21st, 2018, 03:00 AM
This is correct when talking about casseroles vs hotdishes. These days though, the names are interchangeable and the term you use depends on where you are from. I generally break it down this way, North of I-90 = hotdish, South of I - 90 = casserole. I-90 generally being the Iowa/Minnesota border but it is also applicable in dividing southeast South Dakota from northeast South Dakota and North Dakota. The further north you get you are more likely to hear it referred to as hotdish. My mother's Tater Tot Casserole (Iowa) and my wife's Tater Tot Hotdish (northern South Dakota) are exactly the same in all but name. My mother calls every dish of this style a casserole while my wife calls every dish of this style a hotdish.

Tater tot casserole? Gtfo. Your life is a lie.

Thumper 76
February 21st, 2018, 05:31 AM
Tater tot casserole? Gtfo. Your life is a lie.

Consider the source xcoffeex


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Bison56
February 21st, 2018, 08:05 AM
This is correct when talking about casseroles vs hotdishes. These days though, the names are interchangeable and the term you use depends on where you are from. I generally break it down this way, North of I-90 = hotdish, South of I - 90 = casserole. I-90 generally being the Iowa/Minnesota border but it is also applicable in dividing southeast South Dakota from northeast South Dakota and North Dakota. The further north you get you are more likely to hear it referred to as hotdish. My mother's Tater Tot Casserole (Iowa) and my wife's Tater Tot Hotdish (northern South Dakota) are exactly the same in all but name. My mother calls every dish of this style a casserole while my wife calls every dish of this style a hotdish.

WTF is that?

Yotes21
February 21st, 2018, 08:55 AM
Southeast South Dakota it is called tator tot casserole. Thumper you aren't even from SD your opinion is null

ST_Lawson
February 21st, 2018, 09:33 AM
I've always heard it called "tater tot casserole" as well. But then again, I'm from the "deep south" compared to most of you guys.

CappinHard
February 21st, 2018, 10:45 AM
I've always heard it called "tater tot casserole" as well. But then again, I'm from the "deep south" compared to most of you guys.


Southeast South Dakota it is called tator tot casserole. Thumper you aren't even from SD your opinion is null

How does it feel to know that your whole life is a lie?

In my opinion, a tater tot hotdish is indeed a form of casserole since the term is based on the type of dish it's cooked in and both casseroles and hotdishes are cooked in casserole dishes. However, hotdishes are a meal in itself (starch, meat, veg, canned soup). Casseroles may be the main course in a meal, but they aren't meals on their own like a hotdish.

It's like comparing USD to SDSU. They may look similar and reside in the same state, but one is just so much more complete than the other and in a different (better) class of its own.

mmiller_34
February 21st, 2018, 11:07 AM
It's hotdish.

TheKingpin28
February 21st, 2018, 11:13 AM
How does it feel to know that your whole life is a lie?

In my opinion, a tater tot hotdish is indeed a form of casserole since the term is based on the type of dish it's cooked in and both casseroles and hotdishes are cooked in casserole dishes. However, hotdishes are a meal in itself (starch, meat, veg, canned soup). Casseroles may be the main course in a meal, but they aren't meals on their own like a hotdish.

It's like comparing USD to SDSU. They make look similar and reside in the same state, but one is just so much more complete than the other and in a different (better) class of its own.

You're still in South Dakota... You're practically trying to compare who has the classier trailer parks.

There is a reason why the State of North Dakota is ALWAYS on top. Someone has to be the bottom bitch.

POD Knows
February 21st, 2018, 11:17 AM
You're still in South Dakota... You're practically trying to compare who has the classier trailer parks.

There is a reason why the State of North Dakota is ALWAYS on top. Someone has to be the bottom bitch.There was an effort at one time to change the name of North Dakota to Dakota, I was behind that 1000% and it should have gotten done.

CappinHard
February 21st, 2018, 11:23 AM
You're still in South Dakota... You're practically trying to compare who has the classier trailer parks.

There is a reason why the State of North Dakota is ALWAYS on top. Someone has to be the bottom bitch.

We're just down here providing a solid foundation for you idiots up there running around with your oil riches until no one needs oil anymore and 95% of the state turns into a barren wasteland. 20 years from now, ND will be begging SD to merge into one state to bail them out.

mmiller_34
February 21st, 2018, 11:25 AM
To be honest I'm more interested in East River/West River smack than North/South Dakota smack. I can relate to someone from Grand Forks or Fargo much better than I could probably relate to someone from Rapid City or Belle Fourche.

http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/609-had-the-cookie-crumbled-differently-east-and-west-dakota

CappinHard
February 21st, 2018, 11:27 AM
There was an effort at one time to change the name of North Dakota to Dakota, I was behind that 1000% and it should have gotten done.

The effort was to try to trick people into thinking that North Dakota wasn't a "frigid, treeless prairie". You wouldn't have tricked anyone.

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To be honest I'm more interested in East River/West River smack than North/South Dakota smack. I can relate to someone from Grand Forks or Fargo much better than I could probably relate to someone from Rapid City or Bell Fourche.

http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/609-had-the-cookie-crumbled-differently-east-and-west-dakota

I can get on board with this... East and West Dakotas would make MUCH more sense.

POD Knows
February 21st, 2018, 11:34 AM
The effort was to try to trick people into thinking that North Dakota wasn't a "frigid, treeless prairie". You wouldn't have tricked anyone.

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I can get on board with this... East and West Dakotas would make MUCH more sense."East" to me always implies something bad like East St. Louis, East Grand Forks, East Fargo (Moorhead), East Los Angeles, Head East, Eastern Washington University.

mmiller_34
February 21st, 2018, 11:50 AM
"East" to me always implies something bad like East St. Louis, East Grand Forks, East Fargo (Moorhead), East Los Angeles, Head East, Eastern Washington University.

Right, but we would just be 'Dakota'. As in, Virginia & West Virginia.

TheKingpin28
February 21st, 2018, 12:08 PM
There was an effort at one time to change the name of North Dakota to Dakota, I was behind that 1000% and it should have gotten done.

If it would have been around when I was there, I would have supported it as well.

Bisonator
February 21st, 2018, 02:30 PM
There was an effort at one time to change the name of North Dakota to Dakota, I was behind that 1000% and it should have gotten done.
That was ****ing stupid. Glad it died a quick death.

Bisonator
February 21st, 2018, 02:31 PM
Oh and yes it's tater tot hot dish you southern dweebs!:D

Lorne_Malvo
February 21st, 2018, 02:36 PM
Oh and yes it's tater tot hot dish you southern dweebs!:D

Agreed.

Bisonoline
February 21st, 2018, 02:37 PM
Right, but we would just be 'Dakota'. As in, Virginia & West Virginia.

No Carolina and So Carolina

POD Knows
February 21st, 2018, 04:58 PM
Right, but we would just be 'Dakota'. As in, Virginia & West Virginia.Yea, I would be good with that, Dakota, West Dakota, that would actually appeal to people that would like the "West" name, gotta keep east out of the subject. The only problem would be that Vermillion and Brookings would be in Dakota, I would have to sleep on that one.

IBleedYellow
February 21st, 2018, 05:16 PM
If you're not calling it Tator tot hotdish you're wrong.

Period.


Also the East/West divide would make way more sense. and most importantly, what oil money?

POD Knows
February 21st, 2018, 05:54 PM
We are making macaroni hotdish for supper (yea it is supper you communists) with garlic toast. I will post pics later.

cx500d
February 21st, 2018, 06:34 PM
We are making macaroni hotdish for supper (yea it is supper you communists) with garlic toast. I will post pics later.

Damn, we can’t get hotdish in Texas.


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mmiller_34
February 21st, 2018, 06:50 PM
Yea, I would be good with that, Dakota, West Dakota, that would actually appeal to people that would like the "West" name, gotta keep east out of the subject. The only problem would be that Vermillion and Brookings would be in Dakota, I would have to sleep on that one.

I hate Vermillion with a passion. But I would take Vermillion to get rid of Box Elder in a heart beat.

TheKingpin28
February 21st, 2018, 06:54 PM
We are making macaroni hotdish for supper (yea it is supper you communists) with garlic toast. I will post pics later.It is: Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner.

Just like it is: Duck, Duck, Grey Duck.

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Thumper 76
February 21st, 2018, 07:06 PM
It is: Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner.

Just like it is: Duck, Duck, Grey Duck.

/thread

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I mean, if you were fed a strict diet of lead paint chips as a child, then sure.


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TheKingpin28
February 21st, 2018, 07:07 PM
I mean, if you were fed a strict diet of lead paint chips as a child, then sure.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkComing from a guy who drinks Miller/Old Milwaukee, roots for the Jets, loves the Packers. You have no credibility on this one. You lose. End of discussion .

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cx500d
February 21st, 2018, 07:10 PM
Coming from a guy who drinks Miller/Old Milwaukee, roots for the Jets, loves the Packers. You have no credibility on this one. You lose. End of discussion .

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Nothing wrong with Miller/old swill. Old swill was the BBOC back in the early to mid 80’s


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Drblankstare
February 21st, 2018, 07:13 PM
We are making macaroni hotdish for supper (yea it is supper you communists) with garlic toast. I will post pics later.

This man is living life correctly

POD Knows
February 21st, 2018, 07:29 PM
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27164&stc=1http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27165&stc=1

Ah, macaroni hotdish made with penne pasta served on 50 year old Corelle Ware dishes (not kidding, you can't break these POS dishes). To drink I had a diet Canada Dry Diet Ginger Ale, it was sublime.

cx500d
February 21st, 2018, 07:34 PM
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27164&stc=1http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27165&stc=1

Ah, macaroni hotdish made with penne pasta served on 50 year old Corelle Ware dishes (not kidding, you can't break these POS dishes). To drink I had a diet Canada Dry Diet Ginger Ale, it was sublime.

Bull****. My mother shattered the Corelle bowl holding the thanksgiving stuffing last November in a gazillion pieces. Yeah, sometimes they will bounce off the floor back up into your hand, but when they break it is spectacular and in a gazillion very sharp shards. Ask my father, he impaled one into his foot and bled like a stuck pig due to his blood thinners.

I have the diet cranberry ginger ale, but it’s just regular diet, not the diet cranberry diet ginger ale.


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Bisonoline
February 21st, 2018, 07:46 PM
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27164&stc=1http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27165&stc=1

Ah, macaroni hotdish made with penne pasta served on 50 year old Corelle Ware dishes (not kidding, you can't break these POS dishes). To drink I had a diet Canada Dry Diet Ginger Ale, it was sublime.

Looks like baked Zitixthumbsupx

JSUSoutherner
February 21st, 2018, 07:57 PM
I've always heard it called "tater tot casserole" as well. But then again, I'm from the "deep south" compared to most of you guys.
Ohio, New Jersey, Missouri, Indiana all of those places call it casserole.

I’ve never even heard “hot dish” until today.

POD Knows
February 21st, 2018, 07:59 PM
Looks like baked Zitixthumbsupx
That is exactly what it is, the dago's stole that recipe from the Norwegian church ladies and made a killing off it in the Italian eateries, or was it the other way around.

POD Knows
February 21st, 2018, 08:02 PM
Bull****. My mother shattered the Corelle bowl holding the thanksgiving stuffing last November in a gazillion pieces. Yeah, sometimes they will bounce off the floor back up into your hand, but when they break it is spectacular and in a gazillion very sharp shards. Ask my father, he impaled one into his foot and bled like a stuck pig due to his blood thinners.

I have the diet cranberry ginger ale, but it’s just regular diet, not the diet cranberry diet ginger ale.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat ugly green Corelle stuff we have is a hand me down from my wife's parents and I know that we have every piece of that crap still intact. It is an 8 piece setting and except for maybe a couple cups that got lost, we still have it all. I heard it is nasty once it breaks.

TheKingpin28
February 21st, 2018, 08:26 PM
That ugly green Corelle stuff we have is a hand me down from my wife's parents and I know that we have every piece of that crap still intact. It is an 8 piece setting and except for maybe a couple cups that got lost, we still have it all. I heard it is nasty once it breaks.Top notch on the avatar btw.

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TheKingpin28
February 21st, 2018, 08:27 PM
Nothing wrong with Miller/old swill. Old swill was the BBOC back in the early to mid 80’s


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat's why I got you drinking Michgolden Light? Right? xlolx

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Bisonoline
February 21st, 2018, 08:33 PM
That is exactly what it is, the dago's stole that recipe from the Norwegian church ladies and made a killing off it in the Italian eateries, or was it the other way around.

xlmaoxxlmaox Dude youre killing me. xthumbsupx

mmiller_34
February 21st, 2018, 08:51 PM
Ohio, New Jersey, Missouri, Indiana all of those places call it casserole.

I’ve never even heard “hot dish” until today.

LAY OFF US. ITS FREEZING UP HERE.

Its hotdish.


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ST_Lawson
February 21st, 2018, 09:17 PM
That ugly green Corelle stuff we have is a hand me down from my wife's parents and I know that we have every piece of that crap still intact. It is an 8 piece setting and except for maybe a couple cups that got lost, we still have it all. I heard it is nasty once it breaks.

Oh, it is. Both my grandmother and my parents have quite a bit of it. I broke a plate once while doing dishes and cut my hand pretty badly. They can make a real thin and sharp sliver when they go.

As for the tater tot hot dish vs casserole debate, I don't care what it's called... I'll take a giant plate of it.


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JSUSoutherner
February 21st, 2018, 10:09 PM
LAY OFF US. ITS FREEZING UP HERE.

Its hotdish.


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It’s been in the 70s down here all week.

mmiller_34
February 21st, 2018, 10:13 PM
It’s been in the 70s down here all week.

That is great. It was 38 here on Sunday. We opened up the windows to get fresh air inside.

JSUSoutherner
February 21st, 2018, 10:15 PM
That is great. It was 38 here on Sunday. We opened up the windows to get fresh air inside.
Windows open is nice.

Haven't had to run the AC or heat in a couple weeks.

cx500d
February 21st, 2018, 10:18 PM
That's why I got you drinking Michgolden Light? Right? xlolx

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I brought back a case after Christmas :). Thanks for that introduction!


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TheKingpin28
February 21st, 2018, 10:52 PM
I brought back a case after Christmas :). Thanks for that introduction!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt's actually pretty solid. By far my favorite easy going caser. It's a Minnesota thing and people have no idea why we drink it, but when you give them one, they quickly realize it is a solid beer for the tailgating/cracking open a cold one with the boys kind of day. My step dad got me enjoying those when I was younger, of course I never drank until I turned 21 xlolx and ever since then it has been my go to.

Whenever my uncle comes up for the summer (May-Oct) he always brings home at least 10 cases in hopes he can stretch them out until the following May but he usually complains around February/March about how he ran out and how it sucks.

When you come up for the Cal Poly game, make sure you grab a few of those as it could be until Dec/Jan until you see those again

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cx500d
February 22nd, 2018, 12:39 AM
It's actually pretty solid. By far my favorite easy going caser. It's a Minnesota thing and people have no idea why we drink it, but when you give them one, they quickly realize it is a solid beer for the tailgating/cracking open a cold one with the boys kind of day. My step dad got me enjoying those when I was younger, of course I never drank until I turned 21 xlolx and ever since then it has been my go to.

Whenever my uncle comes up for the summer (May-Oct) he always brings home at least 10 cases in hopes he can stretch them out until the following May but he usually complains around February/March about how he ran out and how it sucks.

When you come up for the Cal Poly game, make sure you grab a few of those as it could be until Dec/Jan until you see those again

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I'm coming up for the Delaware game.

WeAreThePride
February 22nd, 2018, 09:17 AM
Budweiser is the King of Beers.

Why would one have the prince, a viceroy, or some pauper when you can experience the King Himself?

ST_Lawson
February 22nd, 2018, 09:41 AM
It’s been in the 70s down here all week.

Meanwhile my kids are home today because we had too much ice overnight.

Thankfully it's only a couple of weeks until our "Spring Break", and we're going somewhere we can actually see what spring looks like...before we have to come back home for another few weeks of cold, snow, and ice.

POD Knows
February 22nd, 2018, 09:48 AM
Top notch on the avatar btw.

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JSUSoutherner
February 22nd, 2018, 10:05 AM
Meanwhile my kids are home today because we had too much ice overnight.

Thankfully it's only a couple of weeks until our "Spring Break", and we're going somewhere we can actually see what spring looks like...before we have to come back home for another few weeks of cold, snow, and ice.
Had the windows open last night since it was really hot in my room for some reason. Walked to class this morning in basketball shorts, a T-shirt, and chacos.

It’s motorcycle weather and I hate it because I don’t have a motorcycle. xrotatehx

CappinHard
February 22nd, 2018, 11:14 AM
Had the windows open last night since it was really hot in my room for some reason. Walked to class this morning in basketball shorts, a T-shirt, and chacos.

It’s motorcycle weather and I hate it because I don’t have a motorcycle. xrotatehx

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JSUSoutherner
February 22nd, 2018, 11:43 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/i4Mgat1S2f3Co/giphy.gif
:D
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Yote 53
February 22nd, 2018, 11:50 AM
To be honest I'm more interested in East River/West River smack than North/South Dakota smack. I can relate to someone from Grand Forks or Fargo much better than I could probably relate to someone from Rapid City or Belle Fourche.

http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/609-had-the-cookie-crumbled-differently-east-and-west-dakota

And here is where we find common ground.

Yote 53
February 22nd, 2018, 11:52 AM
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27164&stc=1http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27165&stc=1

Ah, macaroni hotdish made with penne pasta served on 50 year old Corelle Ware dishes (not kidding, you can't break these POS dishes). To drink I had a diet Canada Dry Diet Ginger Ale, it was sublime.

Nice casserole.

Yote 53
February 22nd, 2018, 11:59 AM
So, after reading through this thread my theory is holding true. North of I-90 it is a hotdish, south of I-90 it is a casserole and some of you south of I-90 don't even know what the term hotdish means.

If we went Dakota/West Dakota then all 4 state schools would be on the Dakota side, some contraction would be necessary. SDSU is the obvious #1 choice for contraction. I am assuming we could part ways with UND too. Fargo has the State school and Vermillion has the U school. Glad we could settle that.

BisonFan02
February 22nd, 2018, 12:49 PM
So, after reading through this thread my theory is holding true. North of I-90 it is a hotdish, south of I-90 it is a casserole and some of you south of I-90 don't even know what the term hotdish means.

If we went Dakota/West Dakota then all 4 state schools would be on the Dakota side, some contraction would be necessary. SDSU is the obvious #1 choice for contraction. I am assuming we could part ways with UND too. Fargo has the State school and Vermillion has the U school. Glad we could settle that.

Haha, get real. I'm not a fan, but UND ****s all over Vermillion. Either way....the new state school in Fargo goes FBS and the rest drop D1 football a la Wyoming.

CappinHard
February 22nd, 2018, 01:26 PM
So, after reading through this thread my theory is holding true. North of I-90 it is a hotdish, south of I-90 it is a casserole and some of you south of I-90 don't even know what the term hotdish means.

If we went Dakota/West Dakota then all 4 state schools would be on the Dakota side, some contraction would be necessary. SDSU is the obvious #1 choice for contraction. I am assuming we could part ways with UND too. Fargo has the State school and Vermillion has the U school. Glad we could settle that.

Lol, look at you pandering to NDSU so they'll like you.

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TheKingpin28
February 22nd, 2018, 02:00 PM
I am self identifying as a Russian bot

#RussianBotLivesMatter

TheKingpin28
February 22nd, 2018, 02:01 PM
Lol, look at you pandering to NDSU so they'll like you.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7aTpVyQCkQKfekVy/giphy.gif

*implies we ever liked the trailer park in South Dakota*

cx500d
February 22nd, 2018, 06:00 PM
Had the windows open last night since it was really hot in my room for some reason. Walked to class this morning in basketball shorts, a T-shirt, and chacos.

It’s motorcycle weather and I hate it because I don’t have a motorcycle. xrotatehx

I have one I’ll sell you....


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JSUSoutherner
February 22nd, 2018, 06:16 PM
I have one I’ll sell you....


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Problem isn’t finding one. It’s JSU taking all my damn money.

Winterborn
February 22nd, 2018, 06:16 PM
It is: Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner.

Just like it is: Duck, Duck, Grey Duck.

/thread

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I mean, if you were fed a strict diet of lead paint chips as a child, then sure.

And inhaling paint thinner fumes. The order is breakfast, snack, dinner, snack, supper, snack.

Winterborn
February 22nd, 2018, 06:26 PM
That's why I got you drinking Michgolden Light? Right?


I brought back a case after Christmas :). Thanks for that introduction.


Budweiser is the King of Beers.

Why would one have the prince, a viceroy, or some pauper when you can experience the King Himself?
Heathens! xsmhxxsmhx You poor unenlightened masses........:D


I am self identifying as a Russian bot

Your post count says you have been self-identifying as a bot for awhile.

TheKingpin28
February 22nd, 2018, 06:56 PM
Heathens! xsmhxxsmhx You poor unenlightened masses........:D



Your post count says you have been self-identifying as a bot for awhile.Well sure give me Disgruntled, Enki, Castle Danger, or Junkyard in Minnesota for the best overall beers if you want me to go all beer snob on you.

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ST_Lawson
February 22nd, 2018, 10:18 PM
And inhaling paint thinner fumes. The order is breakfast, snack, dinner, snack, supper, snack.

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cx500d
February 22nd, 2018, 10:22 PM
And inhaling paint thinner fumes. The order is breakfast, snack, dinner, snack, supper, snack.


Where does lunch fit in there?

BisonFan02
February 22nd, 2018, 11:45 PM
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He forgot 4th meal.

ST_Lawson
February 23rd, 2018, 12:32 AM
He forgot 4th meal.

I mean, really...he only listed, what?...like 6 meals? Come on.

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JSUSoutherner
February 23rd, 2018, 12:48 AM
It’s Duck, duck, goose.

It’s Breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

It’s Casserole.

It’s soda.

Stop taking all my money, JSU.

#Fact

Thumper 76
February 23rd, 2018, 04:30 AM
Coming from a guy who drinks Miller/Old Milwaukee, roots for the Jets, loves the Packers. You have no credibility on this one. You lose. End of discussion .

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Thanks for listing all the reasons that I am way more qualified and credible.

Seriously, if grey duck is the way to go then the other ducks should have a goddamn color assigned to them. For all we know they were all ****ing grey ducks and some Minnesotan had a brain spasm to allow them to understand the concept of color, causing them to blurt grey duck and run around in a victory lap of their cleverness. Meanwhile the rest of the country understands that switching the type of bird makes more sense than a brief mental spasm. xcoffeex

Nothing wrong with Miller/old swill. Old swill was the BBOC back in the early to mid 80’s


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Old Swill is my go to cheap beer. Far and away better than Busch or Keystone. Miller Genuine Draft is my get home from work beer. That or Coors Light. I don’t understand some people’s infatuation with Mich Golden. It’s decent, but not life changing.

It’s Duck, duck, goose.

It’s Breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

It’s Casserole.

It’s soda.

Stop taking all my money, JSU.

#Fact

Look at you go, finally get done rubbing your weather into our faces?


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JSUSoutherner
February 23rd, 2018, 06:21 AM
Look at you go, finally get done rubbing your weather into our faces?


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Perhaps. Had to get to bed so no time to add that line. I have work now. Yay, pulling 12 hour shifts on 5 hours of sleep.

ST_Lawson
February 23rd, 2018, 09:38 AM
Some players spend the offseason relaxing...some spend the offseason working out...our RB spends the offseason doing this:
http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2018/02/22/266917550/western-illinois-steve-mcshane-made-amazing-catch

TheKingpin28
February 23rd, 2018, 11:28 AM
He forgot 4th meal.You mean Taco Bell?

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TheKingpin28
February 23rd, 2018, 11:31 AM
Thanks for listing all the reasons that I am way more qualified and credible.

Seriously, if grey duck is the way to go then the other ducks should have a goddamn color assigned to them. For all we know they were all ****ing grey ducks and some Minnesotan had a brain spasm to allow them to understand the concept of color, causing them to blurt grey duck and run around in a victory lap of their cleverness. Meanwhile the rest of the country understands that switching the type of bird makes more sense than a brief mental spasm. xcoffeex

Old Swill is my go to cheap beer. Far and away better than Busch or Keystone. Miller Genuine Draft is my get home from work beer. That or Coors Light. I don’t understand some people’s infatuation with Mich Golden. It’s decent, but not life changing.


Look at you go, finally get done rubbing your weather into our faces?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt flows off the tounge. Goose makes no damn sense whereas as a grey duck actually does. You love Canada more than America with the Jets. How the hell can you be qualified? Also, Coors Light is alright but you got to go with the Banquet if you are going with Coors, unless you plan on drinking a case and a half, then you enjoy the Michgolden Pounders as well and hope I don't die from being allergic to your cat.

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BisonTru
February 23rd, 2018, 11:58 AM
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JSUSoutherner
February 23rd, 2018, 12:07 PM
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Does NDSU have an Olympian competing?

BisonFan02
February 23rd, 2018, 12:09 PM
Does NDSU have an Olympian competing?

Wouldn't matter......we all up in dere.

CappinHard
February 23rd, 2018, 12:27 PM
An NDSU fan taking an NDSU flag along with them to South Korea and making sure they get it on TV at the olympics is such an NDSU fan move. I wouldn't be surprised if they see some cameras across the border to the North and run across the border holding the flag up like an idiot.

Yote 53
February 23rd, 2018, 12:32 PM
Mich Gold Light taste just like every other A/B product. If I'm drinking anything from A/B it's probably Busch Light. But I don't go the A/B route unless I am absolutely forced to go there due to lack of choice.

Personally, I drink Hamm's Light. Used to be Hamm's but had to cut some calories.

BisonTru
February 23rd, 2018, 12:35 PM
Mich Gold Light taste just like every other A/B product. If I'm drinking anything from A/B it's probably Busch Light. But I don't go the A/B route unless I am absolutely forced to go there due to lack of choice.



This. The only difference is Mich Golden light is in clear bottles so if you leave it out in the light you can get that skunky beer taste if that's your preference.

Thumper 76
February 23rd, 2018, 01:45 PM
An NDSU fan taking an NDSU flag along with them to South Korea and making sure they get it on TV at the olympics is such an NDSU fan move. I wouldn't be surprised if they see some cameras across the border to the North and run across the border holding the flag up like an idiot.

xlolx truer words have never been sung. xlolx


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Thumper 76
February 23rd, 2018, 01:46 PM
If Easton Stick can win 14 games next year as the starter he will take over Brock Jensen's crown of the Winningest QB in Division 1 Football.


Also - BF02, Thumper, Clenz, Rev and JSUSoutherner.

What did I say before NDSU lost to SDSU earlier this year? Someone remind me?

I just want to bring this up, you also said to me that ndsu would win last year and this coming year SDSU would win, so I wouldn’t get too excited yet xlolx


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Bisonator
February 23rd, 2018, 02:12 PM
It's duck, duck, goose.

It's hot dish.

It's breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, snack, supper, treat time.

It's beer never soda

It's blonde, brunette, red, bald, shaved, whatever I can put a bag over it if I have to..............;)

POD Knows
February 23rd, 2018, 02:52 PM
xlolx truer words have never been sung. xlolx


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NDSU is awesome at branding. We are everywhere

TheKingpin28
February 23rd, 2018, 05:56 PM
xlolx truer words have never been sung. xlolx


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHaters gonna hate...

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cx500d
February 23rd, 2018, 06:39 PM
Thanks for listing all the reasons that I am way more qualified and credible.



Old Swill is my go to cheap beer. Far and away better than Busch or Keystone. Miller Genuine Draft is my get home from work beer. That or Coors Light. I don’t understand some people’s infatuation with Mich Golden. It’s decent, but not life changing.




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Thumper, you are all right



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cx500d
February 23rd, 2018, 06:41 PM
Mich Gold Light taste just like every other A/B product. If I'm drinking anything from A/B it's probably Busch Light. But I don't go the A/B route unless I am absolutely forced to go there due to lack of choice.

Personally, I drink Hamm's Light. Used to be Hamm's but had to cut some calories.

Hamms light is alright too. I brought some of those back also.


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TheKingpin28
February 23rd, 2018, 07:38 PM
Thumper, you are all right



Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDon't stroke his ego. Trust me on this one. xlolx It usually leads to me losing multiple cases of beer to ill-advised bets.

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TheKingpin28
February 23rd, 2018, 07:40 PM
Hamms light is alright too. I brought some of those back also.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIf you plan on drinking your own piss, then yes, hamms is alright. That **** is nasty. Hell PBR is better and that is saying a lot.

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GABison
February 24th, 2018, 08:24 AM
Vintage Hamm's beer lights > than their beer

WTFCollegefootballfan
February 24th, 2018, 12:21 PM
Anybody try the new Casey's breakfast pizza? It is ham. I thought it was very good.

CappinHard
February 24th, 2018, 06:41 PM
Anybody try the new Casey's breakfast pizza? It is ham. I thought it was very good.

Full circle complete. All conversations lead back to Casey's breakfast pizza. As they should on here.

cx500d
February 24th, 2018, 11:51 PM
Full circle complete. All conversations lead back to Casey's breakfast pizza. As they should on here.


Does Casey's sell Hamm's Light tallboy singles? That would make it perfect.

Bisonoline
February 25th, 2018, 01:11 AM
Does Casey's sell Hamm's Light tallboy singles? That would make it perfect.

May be you can get it in a 40? But not in MO. They are illegal. You gotta buy 2-24s.

Milktruck74
March 1st, 2018, 06:29 PM
I've tried to manage my way through the 38 pages of this thread...but it is making my head hurt. Anybody know where I can find some JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE?

cx500d
March 1st, 2018, 07:14 PM
I was thinking the same thing.....Brought to you by
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POD Knows
March 2nd, 2018, 08:58 AM
OK, I have had back to back bad pieces of Casey's breakfast pizza, WTF is going on, got one in Hillsboro, ND the other day that sucked and that place is usually pretty good, and then I got a horrid piece of bacon breakfast pizza in Carrington, ND on Wednesday morning. That place in Carrington is always busy as hell and the stuff is usually fresh there, somebody needs to get a handle on this.

TheKingpin28
March 2nd, 2018, 11:44 AM
OK, I have had back to back bad pieces of Casey's breakfast pizza, WTF is going on, got one in Hillsboro, ND the other day that sucked and that place is usually pretty good, and then I got a horrid piece of bacon breakfast pizza in Carrington, ND on Wednesday morning. That place in Carrington is always busy as hell and the stuff is usually fresh there, somebody needs to get a handle on this.Threaten them with the sponsorship breach of contract and watch what happens.

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WTFCollegefootballfan
March 2nd, 2018, 11:31 PM
Check out who is on this list.

http://thespun.com/mountain-west/mountain-west-expansion-gonzaga-byu

POD Knows
March 3rd, 2018, 02:47 PM
Threaten them with the sponsorship breach of contract and watch what happens.

Sent from my SM-J727V using TapatalkThe piece I had in Carrington had this reddish sauce on it, WTF is that stuff, it isn't the normal white cheesy stuff, an investigation needs to be conducted

POD Knows
March 3rd, 2018, 02:49 PM
Check out who is on this list.

http://thespun.com/mountain-west/mountain-west-expansion-gonzaga-byuIf we were ever going to going and that is a very big if, that would be my conference preference.

TheKingpin28
March 3rd, 2018, 05:15 PM
The piece I had in Carrington had this reddish sauce on it, WTF is that stuff, it isn't the normal white cheesy stuff, an investigation needs to be conductedTime to bring a lawsuit against them. If they want our sponsorship, they best be putting forward their best foot.

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Bison Fan in NW MN
March 4th, 2018, 02:17 PM
The piece I had in Carrington had this reddish sauce on it, WTF is that stuff, it isn't the normal white cheesy stuff, an investigation needs to be conducted


I've made many stops at the Carrington store and the food is decent unless it has been in the heat lamp display for awhile.

Thumper 76
March 4th, 2018, 02:21 PM
OK, I have had back to back bad pieces of Casey's breakfast pizza, WTF is going on, got one in Hillsboro, ND the other day that sucked and that place is usually pretty good, and then I got a horrid piece of bacon breakfast pizza in Carrington, ND on Wednesday morning. That place in Carrington is always busy as hell and the stuff is usually fresh there, somebody needs to get a handle on this.

The quality of the Casey’s in ND is awful compared to the ones in SE SD and NW IA.


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clenz
March 4th, 2018, 03:40 PM
Same goes for Pizza Ranch. The originals are in NW Iowa where I grew up. Unless you go to one of those you may as well not go.


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Thumper 76
March 5th, 2018, 01:35 AM
Same goes for Pizza Ranch. The originals are in NW Iowa where I grew up. Unless you go to one of those you may as well not go.


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The Casey’s I frequent in Fargo are totally inept at keeping things properly stocked. Back when I smoked they would take a couple weeks to get their tobacco products stocked, they sell cheap tire gauges but literally every time I needed one in a pinch they didn’t have any (three times spread along a year), and they are woefully bad at keeping their soda/energy drinks in stock. If you’re going to be running a promo on NOS or Rockstar, maybe make sure you have extra in stock? It ain’t rocket science.


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Bisonoline
March 5th, 2018, 01:55 AM
The quality of the Casey’s in ND is awful compared to the ones in SE SD and NW IA.


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Stopped at a caseys in OK on Sat on our way to TX. Needed a road snack. I was very disappointed.

Bisonoline
March 5th, 2018, 01:57 AM
The quality of the Casey’s in ND is awful compared to the ones in SE SD and NW IA.


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The one in DL is pretty good. I stop there on Sunday on the way home after our FB games.

Ive tried 2 different caseys in Fargo. Each one sucked.

TheKingpin28
March 5th, 2018, 12:02 PM
The Casey’s I frequent in Fargo are totally inept at keeping things properly stocked. Back when I smoked they would take a couple weeks to get their tobacco products stocked, they sell cheap tire gauges but literally every time I needed one in a pinch they didn’t have any (three times spread along a year), and they are woefully bad at keeping their soda/energy drinks in stock. If you’re going to be running a promo on NOS or Rockstar, maybe make sure you have extra in stock? It ain’t rocket science.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe one in Fergus Falls has never done me wrong. That said, congrats on quiting.

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ST_Lawson
April 17th, 2018, 03:28 PM
I know it's still the offseason, but something to remember when football season gets closer...

https://i.imgur.com/Qb2wDGv.jpg

TheKingpin28
April 17th, 2018, 03:45 PM
I know it's still the offseason, but something to remember when football season gets closer...

https://i.imgur.com/Qb2wDGv.jpghttps://youtube.com/watch?v=jPAB7WDziS4

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BigGoosie13
April 20th, 2018, 10:12 PM
So these happened tonight...

https://twitter.com/GoJacksFB/status/987509882722045953

https://twitter.com/SDCoyotes/status/987492685693927424

BisonFan02
April 21st, 2018, 04:21 PM
The Casey's in Lake Park is decent

Bisonoline
April 21st, 2018, 04:28 PM
The Casey's in Lake Park is decent

Stopped in there at 11am. No breakfast pizza. They said they dont make them after 10.30. Plus the lady was a Jack ass when I inquired.

IBleedYellow
April 30th, 2018, 04:44 PM
TO THE TOP!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364518381048823813/440583765547286528/Attachmen.jpg

Bisonoline
April 30th, 2018, 04:59 PM
So did he accept or is this just a bunch of hype because they offered him?

Thumper 76
April 30th, 2018, 09:40 PM
So did he accept or is this just a bunch of hype because they offered him?

It’s a graphic they’re doing for every recruit they offer. Outside of the Jackboys thing I would love it as a recruit. But, Jackboys. Sigh


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clenz
April 30th, 2018, 10:23 PM
Imagine cleaning up a jack attack by a bunch of jack boys.


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Bisonoline
April 30th, 2018, 10:57 PM
Imagine cleaning up a jack attack by a bunch of jack boys.


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Dont jerk and drive.

TheKingpin28
April 30th, 2018, 11:24 PM
Somewhere Kellen Winslow Jr is saying a parked car does not violate this rule.
Dont jerk and drive.

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BisonTru
April 30th, 2018, 11:54 PM
Dont jack and drive.

fyp

JSUSoutherner
May 1st, 2018, 07:58 AM
fyp
I thought they liked Joose, not Jack.

Professor Chaos
May 1st, 2018, 09:49 AM
TO THE TOP!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364518381048823813/440583765547286528/Attachmen.jpg
Looks like Stig is drunk texting again...

IBleedYellow
May 1st, 2018, 11:12 AM
NDSU is awesome at branding. We are everywhere


Clearly SDSU has some work to do.

JACKEDBOYZ AND JOOSE!

Evolution Prime
May 1st, 2018, 11:15 AM
But, Jackboys. Sigh


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I don't know who came up with that one, but I cringe every time I see it.

Winterborn
May 1st, 2018, 02:29 PM
TO THE TOP!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364518381048823813/440583765547286528/Attachmen.jpg

Stig's text message is not wrong. With or with Joose, ones stay at SDSU will change your life...........

ST_Lawson
May 1st, 2018, 04:14 PM
Soooo....we know SDSU's twitter hashtag for the season...what's everyone else doing to be creative this offseason?

At WIU...it's #PURPLERE19N
(I'm not going to embed the images because they're just too big to put in a message board, but...)
https://i.imgur.com/oHjGYiT.jpg
(https://i.imgur.com/oHjGYiT.jpg)https://i.imgur.com/eRoXKiI.jpg

and

https://twitter.com/WIUfootball/status/989930433168248833

clenz
May 1st, 2018, 04:23 PM
I don’t get it

Purple Re-nineteen-tion...re-nineteen-n?


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uni88
May 1st, 2018, 04:52 PM
I don’t get it

Purple Re-nineteen-tion...re-nineteen-n?


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19=ig so Purple Reign?

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ST_Lawson
May 1st, 2018, 04:53 PM
19=ig so Purple Reign?

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Yes. Purple Reign with the I and G replaced with 1 and 9.

Yote 53
May 1st, 2018, 05:23 PM
Yes. Purple Reign with the I and G replaced with 1 and 9.

I got that right away. Thought it was pretty cool. Like it.

Schism55
May 1st, 2018, 05:48 PM
Jackboys...wtf

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27522&stc=1

Thumper 76
May 1st, 2018, 07:06 PM
I got that right away. Thought it was pretty cool. Like it.

Welp, mark it down, we agree on one thing.


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POD Knows
May 1st, 2018, 07:16 PM
Yes. Purple Reign with the I and G replaced with 1 and 9.Yea, still don't get it, what, are you guys just blowing off 2018, if you win the Natty in January 2019 it is for the 2018 season.

ST_Lawson
May 1st, 2018, 07:20 PM
Yea, still don't get it, what, are you guys just blowing off 2018, if you win the Natty in January 2019 it is for the 2018 season.

Sorry, I misspoke. That's not actually for this season. It's our recruiting hashtag for next year's national signing day...the kids who are graduating HS in May 2019 and will be on the team in fall '19.

I was more pointing out the cool graphics and stuff that our guys are putting together.


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Kemo
May 2nd, 2018, 04:57 AM
Imagine cleaning up a jack attack by a bunch of jack boys.



It would be a fluffer's Vietnam.

I've seen a lot of terrible things in my day, but nothing compares to that assignment at Dana J. Dykhouse Stadium. It started out like any ordinary day... that was, until I entered the locker room... It was a trap! There was Charlie everywhere! On the benches! On the walls! Even on the damn ceiling!

[Breaks down into tears] [Catches breathe] [Lights cigarette]

A part of me died that day...

POD Knows
May 2nd, 2018, 06:01 PM
Sorry, I misspoke. That's not actually for this season. It's our recruiting hashtag for next year's national signing day...the kids who are graduating HS in May 2019 and will be on the team in fall '19.

I was more pointing out the cool graphics and stuff that our guys are putting together.


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Sycamore62
May 4th, 2018, 09:52 AM
Clenz, you know much about this kid?

https://allhawkeyes.com/pages/story/details/2582

clenz
May 4th, 2018, 11:02 AM
He’s pretty good damn good. Or was in HS. The QB situation has been a bit of a mess at Iowa ever since Drew Tate graduated a decade ago. They just recruit 10 of them and open competition and over recruit and then refuse to play the younger guys even if it’s better and it gets messy.

I think ISUb has a ton of problems that he won’t help or fix BUT he is highly, highly, talented. Schools line Michigan, Nebraska, Michigan State, etc were all after him but he wanted to be a Hawk and I’d guess he was sold the idea he was to take over after CJ Beathard left, just like 4 other guys that year.

I think you’ve got a hell of a player.


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ST_Lawson
May 4th, 2018, 02:24 PM
Doesn't really deserve it's own thread, but our AD Matt Tanney has just been named the Director of Athletics and Campus Wellness at Wabash College (DIII in Crawfordsville, IN).
http://sports.wabash.edu/news/2018/5/4/general-tanney-named-director-of-athletics-at-wabash.aspx
(http://sports.wabash.edu/news/2018/5/4/general-tanney-named-director-of-athletics-at-wabash.aspx)
Wabash is his alma mater, and I believe, a bit closer to his family. Also, his wife has MS, and Crawfordsville is only about an hour from Indy, so I wonder if proximity to medical facilities was a factor. He's gotta do what's best for his family, and I can't blame him for that. It is disappointing for Western and the community though...Matt is a really nice guy and he did some good things here, especially considering the financial situation with the state.

Redbird 4th & short
May 4th, 2018, 06:03 PM
19=ig so Purple Reign?

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none of this makes any sense, unless it is a Prince tribute year .. Purple Rain and 1999 are on 2 different albums .. though both great songs.

Sycamore62
May 4th, 2018, 06:19 PM
none of this makes any sense, unless it is a Prince tribute year .. Purple Rain and 1999 are on 2 different albums .. though both great songs.

Both on this album

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Very_Best_of_Prince

Redbird 4th & short
May 4th, 2018, 10:42 PM
Both on this album

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Very_Best_of_Prince
Oh .. brilliant and perfectly logical then. Everyone back the f off !

BisonFan02
May 4th, 2018, 10:52 PM
Oh .. brilliant and perfectly logical then. Everyone back the f off !

Its kinda like the 2011 Redbirds and the 2014 Redbirds are the same because neither won a championship.

Redbird 4th & short
May 5th, 2018, 09:11 AM
Its kinda like the 2011 Redbirds and the 2014 Redbirds are the same because neither won a championship.
and I thought my little joke tangent was bit of a stretch ..... xeyebrowx :)

Yote 53
May 10th, 2018, 03:44 PM
He’s pretty good damn good. Or was in HS. The QB situation has been a bit of a mess at Iowa ever since Drew Tate graduated a decade ago. They just recruit 10 of them and open competition and over recruit and then refuse to play the younger guys even if it’s better and it gets messy.

I think ISUb has a ton of problems that he won’t help or fix BUT he is highly, highly, talented. Schools line Michigan, Nebraska, Michigan State, etc were all after him but he wanted to be a Hawk and I’d guess he was sold the idea he was to take over after CJ Beathard left, just like 4 other guys that year.

I think you’ve got a hell of a player.


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???? Ricky Stanzi? CJ Beathard? Both multi-year starters that made it on to NFL rosters, even if only for a cup of coffee. Both better than Drew Tate. Jake Christensen had some big wins and played on some good teams. Nathan Stanley will probably end up being an all-time top ten QB in Iowa history by the time his career is over.

Yeah, Kirk's absolute insistence on sticking with the veteran and him not going with Stanzi and Beathard earlier stick out but the QB position has been pretty solid at Iowa during his tenure. Even Jake Ruddock, who was cast-off for Beathard, was quickly coveted by Michigan and ended up the starter there. He also ended up in the NFL.

Your UNI fueled hatred of all things Hawkeye shines through with that statement.

BisonFan02
May 10th, 2018, 10:07 PM
???? Ricky Stanzi? CJ Beathard? Both multi-year starters that made it on to NFL rosters, even if only for a cup of coffee. Both better than Drew Tate. Jake Christensen had some big wins and played on some good teams. Nathan Stanley will probably end up being an all-time top ten QB in Iowa history by the time his career is over.

Yeah, Kirk's absolute insistence on sticking with the veteran and him not going with Stanzi and Beathard earlier stick out but the QB position has been pretty solid at Iowa during his tenure. Even Jake Ruddock, who was cast-off for Beathard, was quickly coveted by Michigan and ended up the starter there. He also ended up in the NFL.

Your UNI fueled hatred of all things Hawkeye shines through with that statement.

Walmart Hawkeye? :D

clenz
May 10th, 2018, 11:18 PM
???? Ricky Stanzi? CJ Beathard? Both multi-year starters that made it on to NFL rosters, even if only for a cup of coffee. Both better than Drew Tate. Jake Christensen had some big wins and played on some good teams. Nathan Stanley will probably end up being an all-time top ten QB in Iowa history by the time his career is over.

Yeah, Kirk's absolute insistence on sticking with the veteran and him not going with Stanzi and Beathard earlier stick out but the QB position has been pretty solid at Iowa during his tenure. Even Jake Ruddock, who was cast-off for Beathard, was quickly coveted by Michigan and ended up the starter there. He also ended up in the NFL.

Your UNI fueled hatred of all things Hawkeye shines through with that statement.It has nothing to do with UNI fueled hatred, or performance of the QB. You're Wal Mart shirt, Busch Light and Hawkeye Vodka power raging hard on for Iowa is clouding your ability to see the point I was making.

Look at what I said and look if I actually referenced it to on-field performance. Hint, it doesn't. It has to do with how the staff recruits and handles the QB position at Iowa.


This season is the just the second time since Stanzi where there wasn't a QB controversy coming out of spring and going into fall with 7 QBs on roster and Kirk playing the competition card every year, no matter who is returning. This is why you are seeing the transfers out

2017: QB position battle open. On August 25th Kirk said in an interview he was in no hurry to make a decision. It was a 4 person battle with Stanley, Wiegers, Boyle and Mansell.

2016: The 2016 season had Bethard starting but his favor was wearing thin by the end of the season with the fans as he completed 55% of his passes, didn't seem to understand when to run, when to slide when to throw it away and missed a bunch of reads. Iowa fans hated Rudock because all he did was check down, yet CJ's numbers are Jake's numbers. The whole preseason - and even in season because of the way Beathard played - was marred with this ongoing inability/unwillingness of Kirk to committ to Drew Cook, Stanley or Wiegers as the back up. He went from 62% to 56% completion, lost over 900 yards in passing, threw the same number of TDs and doubled his INTs from 2015

2013-2015: In 2015 Bethard was the guy because he threatened to transfer if Kirk didn't chase Jake Rudock out of town. Kirk did and CJ took over. Meanwhile Jake went on to have one of the single greatest seasons in Michigan QB history. Rudock had started 25 of 26 games during his JR and SR season in Iowa City. Completed over 60% of his passes, threw for 5,000 yards, had 34 TD passes to 18 Int (and as a senior had 16-5) had a rating of over 130 for his career in Iowa City. He was benched at half time of the bowl game for CJ because there was weeks - actually the entire season had talks of CJ threatening to transfer if he didn't get to play. So much so that during bowl prep he was rumored to have had contact with other schools and his father made some very serious, and specific, comments as to where CJ would land. Jake was benched at halftime of the 2014 bowl game and the game was handed to CJ and Kirk promised him after the game he would be the starter the next season, even though Jake had another year left. Jake transfered to Michigan and set the single game record for touchdown passes with 6, became the first QB in school history to pass for 250 yards in three straight games, first to throw for 250 yards in 5 straight games, was just the second QB in school history to throw for more than 3,000 yards in a season (3,017 behind only John Navarre), set the single season completion percentage at over 64%, and was named the MVP of the Citrus bowl. He had more yards, a better completion percent, a better passer rating and more TDs than CJ did that same year. 2014 was one of Kirks famous open battles with the position open to CJ and Jake. Jake won it. For the next two seasons Kirk would play mind games with Jake and pulling him out of the game for a few series at a time, or a quarter, or a few plays, and never really committed to keeping him as the QB.

2012 he committed 100% behind Vandenburg who was mostly a disaster and should have found a better solution. However, he didn't have a choice because in 2011 he ran this open thing like he did with Jake and CJ and then again last season. 2011 He went with junior JVB over freshman Jake Rudock and another junior in John Wienke. Wienke was told to go with Iowa by former Michigan coach Lloyd Carr as he would have been an ideal follow up to Ricky Stanzi. Ferentz turned him into a punter. Following the 2012 season - with Rudock already having spent multiple years on campus he brought Beathard in via transfer with the promise that he'd become the starting QB - which led to his ultimate unhappiness when wasn't and his direct quotes to the media about how he was going to transfer.

Again, my comment wasn't based on on field performance. It has to do with how Ferentz handles his QB recruiting and refusing to play the best one and instead the most oldest one.

You forget, I've lived in Iowa my entire life. I'm surrounded by nothing but Hawkeye fans. I don't like Iowa but I know quite a bit about them. All local sports talk shows are Hawkeye heavy. If I want to be able to carry a conversation with my neighbors, co-workers, anyone in the area I need to have a functional understanding of Hawkeye sports.

Hell, let's keep playing this out for a year or two. Stanely has 2 years left, due to transfers out Iowa is down to 3 scholarship QBs this year. JR Nate Stanley, RSFr Mansell and true freshman Spencer Petras. There is a 4th but he is a walk on junior. Let's go 2 years down the road when Stanley is gone. This same pattern plays out again. Kirk will feel compelled to play Mansell - who will be a RS Jr - or Petras who will be a RS So (assuming he doesn't get tired of Iowa weather and not playing after coming in from California). Who starts? What does Iowa do? IIRC they had offers out to 4 QBs right now. They will try to sign 2 a year, is my guess, for the next two years, which will lead to a 7-8 month battle, Kirk unsure of who to pick so he will pick the oldest QB and it will lead to transfers and position changes again. That's the cycle in Iowa City.

It's almost like I know what happens down there beyond "UNI fueled hatred"

Winterborn
May 21st, 2018, 02:28 PM
Looks like we need to back fill a assistant coaching spot.


FARGO—North Dakota State is in the market for an assistant football coach after wide receivers coach Atif Austin accepted an assistant position with the New England Patriots. One of the probable requirements for the job: the ability to recruit the state of Florida. New England head coach Bill Belichick called Austin on Friday to offer him the position of assistant running backs coach. Belichick also called head coach Chris Klieman, who said Monday he couldn't be happier for Austin.


"I've worked with Atif at a couple of different spots and I've gotten to know he and his family very well," Klieman said. "For him to get that opportunity, I wish him well and thank him for all the hard work and time I've spent with him."




http://www.inforum.com/sports/football/4449139-ndsu-assistant-austin-takes-position-new-england-patriots

TheKingpin28
May 21st, 2018, 05:06 PM
Looks like we need to back fill a assistant coaching spot.



http://www.inforum.com/sports/football/4449139-ndsu-assistant-austin-takes-position-new-england-patriotsCan't fault a man for going to work for arguably the greatest head coach in the last 20 years. Sucks that it happened this late in the season and to go for someone who will always have asterisks next to his SB wins.

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Sycamore62
May 22nd, 2018, 05:16 PM
Can't fault a man for going to work for arguably the greatest head coach in the last 20 years. Sucks that it happened this late in the season and to go for someone who will always have asterisks next to his SB wins.

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I wish I had that many asterisks

ST_Lawson
May 22nd, 2018, 10:44 PM
Something interesting I just noticed...
WIU RB Steve McShane, who has been Second Team All-MVFC the last two years, was just named First Team All-Conference...in baseball.
http://goleathernecks.com/news/2018/5/22/baseball-five-leathernecks-named-all-league.aspx

Anyway, just thought that was interesting, since it's not something you see too often these days...guys making all-conference teams in multiple sports.

TheKingpin28
May 23rd, 2018, 12:09 AM
Bo Jackson would be proud.
Something interesting I just noticed...
WIU RB Steve McShane, who has been Second Team All-MVFC the last two years, was just named First Team All-Conference...in baseball.
http://goleathernecks.com/news/2018/5/22/baseball-five-leathernecks-named-all-league.aspx

Anyway, just thought that was interesting, since it's not something you see too often these days...guys making all-conference teams in multiple sports.

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clenz
May 23rd, 2018, 11:50 AM
UNI does it a ton on track. We’d do it in baseball too, if we had it. 🤣

What will be real interesting is when his younger brother, who had committed to WIU then backed out and picked UNI, beats him this year.


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Redbird 4th & short
May 23rd, 2018, 12:57 PM
Something interesting I just noticed...
WIU RB Steve McShane, who has been Second Team All-MVFC the last two years, was just named First Team All-Conference...in baseball.
http://goleathernecks.com/news/2018/5/22/baseball-five-leathernecks-named-all-league.aspx

Anyway, just thought that was interesting, since it's not something you see too often these days...guys making all-conference teams in multiple sports.

don't be mad if he starts seeing lot of high hard ones from Redbird pitchers .. :D .. while Spack lurks behind our dugout.

ST_Lawson
June 14th, 2018, 08:03 PM
SIU RB and kick returner Daquan Isom is leaving the program: http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20180614105623089679204&ref=hea&tm=&src=FCS

BisonFan02
June 15th, 2018, 10:28 PM
SIU is derailing.

Bison Fan in NW MN
June 15th, 2018, 10:38 PM
SIU is derailing.


Until they start playing some defense, SIU will be a crap team.

Schism55
June 16th, 2018, 01:46 AM
SIU RB and kick returner Daquan Isom is leaving the program: http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20180614105623089679204&ref=hea&tm=&src=FCS
Anyone with an inside scoop on this?
He's a talented kid, tough break for Saluki fans.

Thumper 76
June 16th, 2018, 05:06 AM
Anyone with an inside scoop on this?
He's a talented kid, tough break for Saluki fans.

No worries, I’m sure they have a transfer who is even better.


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TheKingpin28
June 16th, 2018, 09:54 AM
No worries, I’m sure they have a transfer who is even better.


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This made me laugh.

ST_Lawson
June 16th, 2018, 10:58 AM
Anyone with an inside scoop on this?
He's a talented kid, tough break for Saluki fans.

It is. The quotes in the article make it sound like maybe there was some issue with grades or something, but I don't really know for sure. It is a big loss for them, since he was likely going to be a huge part of their offense this year.

underdawg
June 17th, 2018, 02:25 PM
This made me laugh.


ha-ha!! AS a matter of fact SIU does have one better

https://247sports.com/player/natereace-strong-31874

clenz
June 17th, 2018, 02:44 PM
He’s a transfer. Shocking.


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underdawg
June 17th, 2018, 07:17 PM
He’s a transfer. Shocking.


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Yes if you had been following the thread lately that's what we were talking about

TheKingpin28
June 17th, 2018, 08:35 PM
No worries, I’m sure they have a transfer who is even better.


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This made me laugh.


ha-ha!! AS a matter of fact SIU does have one better

https://247sports.com/player/natereace-strong-31874


He’s a transfer. Shocking.


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Yes if you had been following the thread lately that's what we were talking about


http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/781/383/235.gif

Thumper 76
June 17th, 2018, 10:08 PM
ha-ha!! AS a matter of fact SIU does have one better

https://247sports.com/player/natereace-strong-31874

So what prize did I win?


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Bison Fan in NW MN
June 17th, 2018, 10:20 PM
Hey SIU.... if you're going to bring in transfers, try some defensive guys.

clenz
June 17th, 2018, 10:37 PM
Hey SIU.... if you're going to bring in transfers, try some defensive guys.
They have 8 of those.

TheKingpin28
June 17th, 2018, 10:38 PM
Hey SIU.... if you're going to bring in transfers, try some defensive guys.Wouldn't that be better directed at the Sammy boys? xlolx

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ST_Lawson
June 18th, 2018, 09:33 AM
They have 8 of those.

8 Defensive guys?....I think they're going to need a few more than that, although that would explain some of their issues on that side of the ball the last few years.

clenz
June 18th, 2018, 12:46 PM
8 Defensive guys?....I think they're going to need a few more than that, although that would explain some of their issues on that side of the ball the last few years.

Yup. 8 FBS transfers listed in the defense.


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ST_Lawson
June 18th, 2018, 01:59 PM
Yup. 8 FBS transfers listed in the defense.


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Hmmm...I was attempting to make a joke about SIU having only 8 total defensive players...but apparently

https://i.imgur.com/VEBVLoz.jpg

Redbird 4th & short
June 18th, 2018, 02:37 PM
Hmmm...I was attempting to make a joke about SIU having only 8 total defensive players...but apparently

https://i.imgur.com/VEBVLoz.jpg

you've seemed a little rattled and off your game since Heros picked you guys 8th :D

Bison Fan in NW MN
June 18th, 2018, 05:35 PM
Yup. 8 FBS transfers listed in the defense.


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Trying to "quick fix" the defense?

Redbird 4th & short
June 18th, 2018, 07:16 PM
Until they start playing some defense, SIU will be a crap team.

This might surprise you, but SIU moved to middle of MVFC pack in defense last season:

- 4th in pass defense efficiency
- 5th in pass defense YPG
- 6th in run defense, both YPG and YPC ... not far from 5th
- 4th (tied) in total defense Yards per Play, though 6th in YPG
- that said, 8th in scoring defense

I feel like SIU program is trending positive .. of course, ISUr forgot to show up in our game last year, but I think the new young coach, combined with Kill's return in admin/consultative capacity bodes well. I haven't looked at who they lost to graduation yet ... But I think they could move into middle tier of MVFC this season.

And they wouldn't be the first football program going into 3rd year under new coach that relied on more transfers to plug the roster holes while their recruiting style takes hold. Spack did same thing his first 4 years, but weaned it way back by time we made our Natty run in 2014. JMU has done the same thing with more immediate success.

Bison Fan in NW MN
June 18th, 2018, 08:20 PM
This might surprise you, but SIU moved to middle of MVFC pack in defense last season:

- 4th in pass defense efficiency
- 5th in pass defense YPG
- 6th in run defense, both YPG and YPC ... not far from 5th
- 4th (tied) in total defense Yards per Play, though 6th in YPG
- that said, 8th in scoring defense

I feel like SIU program is trending positive .. of course, ISUr forgot to show up in our game last year, but I think the new young coach, combined with Kill's return in admin/consultative capacity bodes well. I haven't looked at who they lost to graduation yet ... But I think they could move into middle tier of MVFC this season.

And they wouldn't be the first football program going into 3rd year under new coach that relied on more transfers to plug the roster holes while their recruiting style takes hold. Spack did same thing his first 4 years, but weaned it way back by time we made our Natty run in 2014. JMU has done the same thing with more immediate success.



I'm sure they did trend "up" but considering they have been so poor for so long, the only way to go is up.

Sometimes transfers work and sometimes they do not.

IBleedYellow
June 19th, 2018, 09:43 AM
Interesting tweet I came across last night.

8 in T25.

https://twitter.com/redmondlonghorn/status/1008807461485101056

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F'N Hawks
June 19th, 2018, 11:55 AM
Southern Illinois is #16. They are 24-33 over that 5 year span, let that sink in.

Which shows Sagarin is largely based off previous seasons rankings coming into the year (skewed like this one) and opponents, not how good you are. It would take years and years of down football for most of the MVFC teams to not be in the Top 25.

I hate rankings that work like this. Polls, like AGS, are actually realistic.

jacksfan29
June 19th, 2018, 12:23 PM
Southern Illinois is #16. They are 24-33 over that 5 year span, let that sink in.

Which shows Sagarin is largely based off previous seasons rankings coming into the year (skewed like this one) and opponents, not how good you are. It would take years and years of down football for most of the MVFC teams to not be in the Top 25.

I hate rankings that work like this. Polls, like AGS, are actually realistic.

Since the F'awkers are coming in soon, our numbers will all drop a little. Going to hurt the SOS pretty bad, from day one.

F'N Hawks
June 19th, 2018, 12:28 PM
Since the F'awkers are coming in soon, our numbers will all drop a little. Going to hurt the SOS pretty bad, from day one.

Instead of addressing the topic you go full-bison. Never go full-bison.

IBleedYellow
June 19th, 2018, 12:35 PM
Southern Illinois is #16. They are 24-33 over that 5 year span, let that sink in.

Which shows Sagarin is largely based off previous seasons rankings coming into the year (skewed like this one) and opponents, not how good you are. It would take years and years of down football for most of the MVFC teams to not be in the Top 25.

I hate rankings that work like this. Polls, like AGS, are actually realistic.

Go look @ the AGS poll with the same teams. You'll notice a trend, and I'm pretty sure you won't like the results you find.

F'N Hawks
June 19th, 2018, 12:41 PM
South Dakota = 23-36 over the last five years. Yet in the Top 25. Crazy.

Professor Chaos
June 19th, 2018, 02:45 PM
Go look @ the AGS poll with the same teams. You'll notice a trend, and I'm pretty sure you won't like the results you find.
At least during the non-conference season. Last year after week 4 there were 6 MVFC teams in the top 10 of the AGS Poll:



Rank
Team
Total points
1st place votes


1
James Madison Dukes
1996
76


2
North Dakota State Bison
1916
4


3
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1808



4
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1733



5
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1627



6
Youngstown State Penguins
1540



7
South Dakota Coyotes
1390



8
Wofford Terriers
1355



9
Western Illinois Leathernecks
1345



10
Illinois State Redbirds
1258




And the narrative most had last year was that the MVFC was "down" compared to previous years.


South Dakota = 23-36 over the last five years. Yet in the Top 25. Crazy.
This argument goes both ways. You can claim the fact that USD is 23-36 over the last 5 years yet 25th in this composite rating means it's garbage. I can claim that it just shows how tough their schedule has been having to play all these other MVFC teams ranked higher than them. Do you think Harvard (40-10 in that timeframe) would've fared better with the same schedule that USD played? How about Charleston Southern (41-19 in that timeframe)? Those two teams are right in front of USD in this rating. I'd say that's debatable.

We see the same argument almost every year when an MVFC team hanging at or slightly below .500 is still getting votes in the AGS poll after 6-8 games have been played.

Yote 53
June 19th, 2018, 03:01 PM
South Dakota = 23-36 over the last five years. Yet in the Top 25. Crazy.

Yet the Coyotes beat the snot out of UND last year. Not sure you want to go there.

F'N Hawks
June 19th, 2018, 03:03 PM
Yet the Coyotes beat the snot out of UND last year. Not sure you want to go there.

WTF does that have to do with what I wrote? My point has nothing to do with UND-nothing at all, and yours has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Never go full-bison.

Yote 53
June 19th, 2018, 03:09 PM
Southern Illinois is #16. They are 24-33 over that 5 year span, let that sink in.

Which shows Sagarin is largely based off previous seasons rankings coming into the year (skewed like this one) and opponents, not how good you are. It would take years and years of down football for most of the MVFC teams to not be in the Top 25.

I hate rankings that work like this. Polls, like AGS, are actually realistic.


South Dakota = 23-36 over the last five years. Yet in the Top 25. Crazy.

You basically say that all the MVFC teams are over rated and they are not as good as what Sagarin says. Then you bring up USD. At that point I remind you that the Yotes beat the snot out of UND last year. So probably not the right example to use. Actually, you are proving our point that the MVFC is the toughest FCS football conference and that Sagarin is correct in its rating.

You don't understand it now, but you will in a couple years.

F'N Hawks
June 19th, 2018, 03:10 PM
You basically say that all the MVFC teams are over rated and they are not as good as what Sagarin says. Then you bring up USD. At that point I remind you that the Yotes beat the snot out of UND last year. So probably not the right example to use. Actually, you are proving our point that the MVFC is the toughest FCS football conference and that Sagarin is correct in its rating.

You don't understand it now, but you will in a couple years.

Once again....nm. You were 23-36....nm.

Bisonator
June 19th, 2018, 03:14 PM
Never go full-bison.
It's better then going full fawker.:D

centennial
June 19th, 2018, 03:37 PM
Instead of addressing the topic you go full-bison. Never go full-bison.
It's only to start the season, once the teams are fully connected he doesn't use old data.

Since these are previous year rankings, previous years don't matter. I'm just disappointed NDSU helped UNDies get into the conference. Trying to trash talk your new harder conference sounds like a good plan. Enjoy becoming the new Missouri State.

Redbird 4th & short
June 19th, 2018, 03:46 PM
I'm sure they did trend "up" but considering they have been so poor for so long, the only way to go is up.

Sometimes transfers work and sometimes they do not.

Agreed .. not all transfers work out, and very few walk right in and start game 1.. Some just don't acclimate well, or just underestimate the level of football in MVFC. For ISUr during 2009-13 period, Spack averaged right around 13 on his roster at any given time. But only maybe 1/3rd eventually started, another 1/3rd 2nd string, and the last 1/3rd either never really factored or didn't last. But he was able to turn the Redbird defense from bottom 10 in FCS in 2010 to top 10 in 2011 with a couple key transfers ... RS FR DT Shelby Harris, JR LBs Nate Palmer and Evan Frierson .. the first 2 are in NFL still. But he also had to fire his 1st DC and became HC and DC for 2011 .. so that worked out well. By 2014 Natty run, he was down to maybe 6, and it has leveled about there since then.

Fun Fact .. Spack had Auburn SO RB stud Michael Dyers in his office begging for a chance after burning bridges at Auburn .. Spack said no - had to say no many times reportedly. And 2012 was a year we weren't as deep at RB and it came back to haunt us as we limped into playoffs with a very banged up RB group .. couldn't do enough offensively to keep up with EWU and keep their high octane pass game off the field.





Rushing
Receiving
Scrimmage


Year
School
Conf
Class
Pos
G
Att
Yds
Avg
TD
Rec
Yds
Avg
TD
Plays
Yds
Avg
TD


*2010 (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2010.html)
Auburn (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/2010.html)
SEC (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/sec/2010.html)
FR
RB
14
182
1093
6.0
5
1
9
9.0
0
183
1102
6.0
5


*2011 (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2011.html)
Auburn (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/2011.html)
SEC (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/sec/2011.html)
SO
RB
12
242
1242
5.1
10
2
7
3.5
0
244
1249
5.1
10


*2013 (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2013.html)
Louisville (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/louisville/2013.html)
American (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/american/2013.html)
JR
RB
7
44
223
5.1
2
2
8
4.0
0
46
231
5.0
2


*2014 (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2014.html)
Louisville (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/louisville/2014.html)
ACC (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/acc/2014.html)
SR
RB
8
110
481
4.4
5
3
40
13.3
0
113
521
4.6
5

IBleedYellow
June 19th, 2018, 04:34 PM
It's only to start the season, once the teams are fully connected he doesn't use old data.

Since these are previous year rankings, previous years don't matter. I'm just disappointed NDSU helped UNDies get into the conference. Trying to trash talk your new harder conference sounds like a good plan. Enjoy becoming the new Missouri State.

I can only hope that UND fares ten times worse than USD for their first 6 years in the conference. I'm talking 0-8 for the entire time. Nothing less will suffice.

Once again: A conference doesn't waive the exit fee for a team that they want to keep in the conference.

F'N Hawks
June 19th, 2018, 05:26 PM
I can only hope that UND fares ten times worse than USD for their first 6 years in the conference. I'm talking 0-8 for the entire time. Nothing less will suffice.


The most beat up, gawd awful team UND has had since 2012 beat Missouri State 34-0.

Hope in one hand, ***** in the other....let me know how it goes.

Yotes21
June 19th, 2018, 05:33 PM
Can someone provide me to a link on these ranking because I haven't seen one with the Yotes ranked.

JSUSoutherner
June 19th, 2018, 05:36 PM
The most beat up, gawd awful team UND has had since 2012 beat Missouri State 34-0.
I guess time in the weight room does pay off.

clenz
June 19th, 2018, 06:20 PM
The most beat up, gawd awful team UND has had since 2012 beat Missouri State 34-0.

Hope in one hand, ***** in the other....let me know how it goes.

An Missouri State also beatUND 38-0 within a year of that game.




So.....


Congrats in being equal to Missouri State.


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F'N Hawks
June 19th, 2018, 07:12 PM
An Missouri State also beatUND 38-0 within a year of that game.




So.....


Congrats in being equal to Missouri State.


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Wut the F? Take a lap.

Bison Fan in NW MN
June 19th, 2018, 07:26 PM
Wut the F? Take a lap.


Truth hurts.

Why don't you go get darell to come back and then you can have a wingman to back up your butthurt feelings.

uni88
June 19th, 2018, 08:50 PM
An Missouri State also beatUND 38-0 within a year of that game.

So.....

Congrats in being equal to Missouri State.

Ursus, we need a standing 8 count. clenz just gave F'N' a shot to the kisser and he might need some time to get his head right.

F'N Hawks
June 19th, 2018, 08:53 PM
Ursus, we need a standing 8 count. clenz just gave F'N' a shot to the kisser and he might need some time to get his head right.

While he's counting I got a question: does what Colonclenz stated need to be factually true or not? Just wondering.

uni88
June 19th, 2018, 09:11 PM
While he's counting I got a question: does what Colonclenz stated need to be factually true or not? Just wondering.
Who it make you feel better if clenz stated that in the most recent game prior to that, the Bears mauled the F'n Hawks 38-0?

clenz
June 19th, 2018, 10:11 PM
I apologize for being off and not remember it it wasn’t a back to back home and home series off the top of my head.

My point stands

You lost 38-0 to a Missouri State team that went 1-7 in MVFC play.

If your bench mark is beating up on Missouri State it it tells me everything I need to know about your program.

Yet that somehow isn’t the worst UNd can be? Gross


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F'N Hawks
June 19th, 2018, 10:34 PM
I apologize for being off and not remember it it wasn’t a back to back home and home series off the top of my head.

My point stands

You lost 38-0 to a Missouri State team that went 1-7 in MVFC play.

If your bench mark is beating up on Missouri State it it tells me everything I need to know about your program.

Yet that somehow isn’t the worst UNd can be? Gross


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Like totally gross. We are in trouble, especially cause we lost to Missouri State 5 years ago.

Thumper 76
June 19th, 2018, 11:54 PM
I love this thread xlolx


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JSUSoutherner
June 20th, 2018, 12:38 AM
Like totally gross. We are in trouble, especially cause we lost to Missouri State 5 years ago.

You're worried about Missouri State?

If I were you I'd be more worried about how UND only won 3 games last year.

centennial
June 20th, 2018, 02:50 AM
You're worried about Missouri State?

If I were you I'd be more worried about how UND only won 3 games last year.

Both Missouri State and Indiana State are celebrating. UNDies are in for the same awakening that all the Dakota teams went through, especially USD.

The MVFC is a FBS like league. SIU almost took out a top 40 FBS team then struggled to win in the league. The jump in the average team is significant.

F'N Hawks
June 20th, 2018, 07:21 AM
You're worried about Missouri State?

If I were you I'd be more worried about how UND only won 3 games last year.

Correct, we have Missouri State penciled in as #1 on our worry list for 2020.

POD Knows
June 20th, 2018, 09:29 AM
Correct, we have Missouri State penciled in as #1 on our worry list for 2020.Will you tear your own goal posts down if and when you beat them?

mmiller_34
June 20th, 2018, 12:40 PM
SD Board of Regents 'FY 2017 Athletic Summaries. Just some interesting numbers to look at:

https://www.sdbor.edu/administrative-offices/finance-administration/Documents/FY17AthleticReport.pdf
(https://www.sdbor.edu/administrative-offices/finance-administration/Documents/FY17AthleticReport.pdf)
One interesting tidbit:

SDSU Gate Receipts(All Sports): $4,349,475
USD Gate Receipts(All Sports): $756,442

Thumper 76
June 20th, 2018, 01:44 PM
SD Board of Regents 'FY 2017 Athletic Summaries. Just some interesting numbers to look at:

https://www.sdbor.edu/administrative-offices/finance-administration/Documents/FY17AthleticReport.pdf
(https://www.sdbor.edu/administrative-offices/finance-administration/Documents/FY17AthleticReport.pdf)
One interesting tidbit:

SDSU Gate Receipts(All Sports): $4,349,475
USD Gate Receipts(All Sports): $756,442

Kinda makes those attendance numbers look a bit fishy down there doesn’t it?

Their Athletic Department has to be giving tickets away like https://i.imgur.com/JNhU5Tt.gif


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IBleedYellow
June 20th, 2018, 02:46 PM
SD Board of Regents 'FY 2017 Athletic Summaries. Just some interesting numbers to look at:

https://www.sdbor.edu/administrative-offices/finance-administration/Documents/FY17AthleticReport.pdf
(https://www.sdbor.edu/administrative-offices/finance-administration/Documents/FY17AthleticReport.pdf)
One interesting tidbit:

SDSU Gate Receipts(All Sports): $4,349,475
USD Gate Receipts(All Sports): $756,442


Is USeD giving away 52% of their gate to some 3rd party?

Thumper 76
June 20th, 2018, 02:49 PM
Is USeD giving away 52% of their gate to some 3rd party?

Has to be more than that, they averaged higher “attendance” in mbb and wbb than SDSU, and at least half the football attendance. They should have at least close to our gate receipts, no?


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IBleedYellow
June 20th, 2018, 02:50 PM
Has to be more than that, they averaged higher “attendance” in mbb and wbb than SDSU, and at least half the football attendance. They should have at least close to our gate receipts, no?


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Maybe that 52% is a charity and brings tons of kids to each game? That's a pretty noble thing for them to do.

BisonFan02
June 20th, 2018, 02:52 PM
Is USeD giving away 52% of their gate to some 3rd party?

Who the **** would do that? :D

Thumper 76
June 20th, 2018, 02:54 PM
Who the **** would do that? :D

Probably some institution who was too worried about all the demands Sanford would make if they accepted their money since they already had one puppeteers hand so far up their ass it’s waving at everyone.


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Sycamore62
June 20th, 2018, 04:44 PM
Both Missouri State and Indiana State are celebrating. UNDies are in for the same awakening that all the Dakota teams went through, especially USD.

The MVFC is a FBS like league. SIU almost took out a top 40 FBS team then struggled to win in the league. The jump in the average team is significant.

Id never celebrate another game I wont be travelling to unless it was south and late in the season. I dont care how (bad)good they are.

cx500d
June 20th, 2018, 05:08 PM
Correct, we have Missouri State penciled in as #1 on our worry list for 2020.

You should. Another huge drubbing to Missouri state and you would start thinking about going back to div2


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Yote 53
June 20th, 2018, 05:10 PM
SD Board of Regents 'FY 2017 Athletic Summaries. Just some interesting numbers to look at:

https://www.sdbor.edu/administrative-offices/finance-administration/Documents/FY17AthleticReport.pdf
(https://www.sdbor.edu/administrative-offices/finance-administration/Documents/FY17AthleticReport.pdf)
One interesting tidbit:

SDSU Gate Receipts(All Sports): $4,349,475
USD Gate Receipts(All Sports): $756,442

You believe those reports? One of us is lying, both of us are lying, or it's a combination of the two. The same report also says that USD receives absolutely zero dollars from corporate sponsorships and apparently doesn't sell programs at any events. Neither SDSU or USD report any advertising income. Really? How is that even possible?

BisonFan02
June 20th, 2018, 06:39 PM
You believe those reports? One of us is lying, both of us are lying, or it's a combination of the two. The same report also says that USD receives absolutely zero dollars from corporate sponsorships and apparently doesn't sell programs at any events. Neither SDSU or USD report any advertising income. Really? How is that even possible?

https://media.tenor.com/images/e52569f680292965337c161246c9cb5d/tenor.gif


:D

mmiller_34
June 20th, 2018, 08:50 PM
https://media.tenor.com/images/e52569f680292965337c161246c9cb5d/tenor.gif


:D

LOL.

mmiller_34
June 20th, 2018, 08:59 PM
You believe those reports? One of us is lying, both of us are lying, or it's a combination of the two. The same report also says that USD receives absolutely zero dollars from corporate sponsorships and apparently doesn't sell programs at any events. Neither SDSU or USD report any advertising income. Really? How is that even possible?

I mean. I am sure that schools can be creative with what line they code program sales to. Maybe USD codes programs as Copier & Printing Services Income IDK. But... gate receipts are gate receipts...

centennial
June 21st, 2018, 03:59 AM
Id never celebrate another game I wont be travelling to unless it was south and late in the season. I dont care how (bad)good they are.

Let's kick out the UNDies. Not even Indiana State is happy.

Kemo
June 21st, 2018, 04:50 AM
I mean. I am sure that schools can be creative with what line they code program sales to. Maybe USD codes programs as Copier & Printing Services Income IDK. But... gate receipts are gate receipts...

I'm sure you know this, mmiller, but I'm going to be a broken record and repeat what I do every time this topic gets brought up for the rest of the crowd: SDSU attendance figures are "butts in seats" when they are reported. If they are paid for and don't get used, they don't get counted. SDSU is one of the few schools in the NCAA that does this, so comparing them to others only works if you're blindfolded. Take off the metaphorical blindfold (aka: attend a game or two) and it doesn't take a genius to see that people don't match the figures in most cases, particularly at the university down south.