Quarterfinal: Kennesaw State @ SHSU

[eneq]

I would love to make it out. I know there is a decent size group heading your way, but nothing like what we had at JSU last weekend (it was only 86 miles from our campus). By the way, this whole experience has been so fun for us KSU fans. I am one who openly admits I'm not sure how good we are, but I know we are playing pretty decent football right now. The last few weeks teams have been surprised at our effort and attitude, and I think it catches people off guard. I know SHSU, and every team still around, is a solid football team. I'm just hoping that both teams play at a high level and we get to enjoy some good football! Go Owls!

Me and three others are making the drive from ksaw. We're pumped.

[cx500d]

Me and three others are making the drive from ksaw. We're pumped to try real BBQ.

FYP

[Serpentor]

FYP

Savage.

[BNATION]

Me and three others are making the drive from ksaw. We're pumped.

Come by our tailgate. I'll message you direction. Love to share a beer with you guys.


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[cx500d]

Savage.


Wasn't it? You guys called me a troll....

[Birdman_]

Me and three others are making the drive from ksaw. We're pumped.

Heck yeah, man! That’s awesome

[BNATION]

Wasn't it? You guys called me a troll....

Always had a soft spot for your **** talking. I like it.


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[cx500d]

Always had a soft spot for your **** talking. I like it.


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I don't think the newbs'll take the bait.

[Daytripper]

This is me attempting to get my posts up to 10 so I can reply without a quote. Sorry for the general-not-that-intriguing questions.

How good is SHSU's run defense? Are your passing attacks primarily slice and dice or big gainers? What is your biggest strength beyond passing?

We don't really know. Teams get behind early and start throwing the ball more than they usually do. If KSU can get a keep it close and control the clock we are in trouble. We have a good front seven, but I don't know if we are ready for a really good triple option.

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Wasn't it? You guys called me a troll....

That was just me...xthumbsupx

[ksu_owls]

Me and three others are making the drive from ksaw. We're pumped.

Y'all better be loud! We're going to need every bit of help we can get. Safe travels! Go Owls!

[ksu_owls]

Wanted to note a personal accomplishment. I just got 10 posts! I'm maturing right alongside my football team. Now I can stop asking stupid questions and only contribute meaningful analyses when the moment is right. Thanks for the help!

[katss07]

Good to hear that some KSU fans are making the trip! Hope to see a decent amount of gold and black on the visitor side, but not too much! Orange needs to dominate Bowers Saturday night! I was surprised with our fans this weekend. During the USD run that allowed the Coyotes back in the game, the Yotes fans began chanting “U-S-D! U-S-D!”. They were met with LOUD boos. Thought it was pretty damn funny because that was the loudest the crowd was during the game, save the INT that sealed the deal.

Safe travels to all the Kennesaw State fans!! Hope you enjoy Huntsville, although there isn’t much to do but watch football. I hear there are a few prisoners that escaped last night though...

[PantherRob82]

Good to hear that some KSU fans are making the trip! Hope to see a decent amount of gold and black on the visitor side, but not too much! Orange needs to dominate Bowers Saturday night! I was surprised with our fans this weekend. During the USD run that allowed the Coyotes back in the game, the Yotes fans began chanting “U-S-D! U-S-D!”. They were met with LOUD boos. Thought it was pretty damn funny because that was the loudest the crowd was during the game, save the INT that sealed the deal.

Safe travels to all the Kennesaw State fans!! Hope you enjoy Huntsville, although there isn’t much to do but watch football. I hear there are a few prisoners that escaped last night though...

i asked this in the attendance thread but never got a response. Do your fans normally boo when opposing fans cheer? I’ve never heard anything like that at any level in decades of watching sports. Usually if the Bison, Jacks or Yotes fans start cheers then UNi fans start their own cheers to drown them out.

[Daytripper]

i asked this in the attendance thread but never got a response. Do your fans normally boo when opposing fans cheer? I’ve never heard anything like that at any level in decades of watching sports. Usually if the Bison, Jacks or Yotes fans start cheers then UNi fans start their own cheers to drown them out.

No. We only boo terrible refs when they are leaving the field after the game.

[katss07]

i asked this in the attendance thread but never got a response. Do your fans normally boo when opposing fans cheer? I’ve never heard anything like that at any level in decades of watching sports. Usually if the Bison, Jacks or Yotes fans start cheers then UNi fans start their own cheers to drown them out.
Never heard anything like that at Bowers before. I was shocked at how many people stood up and booed. We usually respond with an EatEmUpKats chant. I remember there was booing directed at Montana fans in ‘11, but not like this weekend. The refs were booed, but the Coyotes fans were loudly booed.

Dont know if anyone heard this at the game, but you could hear a student scream “get the **** up!” to one of the USD players near the end of the game when he was hurt. I thought it was pretty disrespectful. The USD player was a guy who was encouraging the crowd to stand up and boo more for some reason. My cousin gave the guy some **** when he neared the SHSU sideline after we scored the FG that sealed it, but noone should curse at an injured player. He returned to the game a play or two later, but doesn’t make it right. Just wanted to know if any SHSU fans heard it...

[PantherRob82]

No. We only boo terrible refs when they are leaving the field after the game.


Never heard anything like that at Bowers before. I was shocked at how many people stood up and booed. We usually respond with an EatEmUpKats chant. I remember there was booing directed at Montana fans in ‘11, but not like this weekend. The refs were booed, but the Coyotes fans were loudly booed.

Dont know if anyone heard this at the game, but you could hear a student scream “get the **** up!” to one of the USD players near the end of the game when he was hurt. I thought it was pretty disrespectful. The USD player was a guy who was encouraging the crowd to stand up and boo more for some reason. My cousin gave the guy some **** when he neared the SHSU sideline after we scored the FG that sealed it, but noone should curse at an injured player. He returned to the game a play or two later, but doesn’t make it right. Just wanted to know if any SHSU fans heard it...

Thanks for the responses, guys. I thought that was a little odd.

[Bison56]

Wanted to note a personal accomplishment. I just got 10 posts! I'm maturing right alongside my football team. Now I can stop asking stupid questions and only contribute meaningful analyses when the moment is right. Thanks for the help!

That will be a first on AGS. xlolx

[caribbeanhen]

Good to hear that some KSU fans are making the trip! Hope to see a decent amount of gold and black on the visitor side, but not too much! Orange needs to dominate Bowers Saturday night! I was surprised with our fans this weekend. During the USD run that allowed the Coyotes back in the game, the Yotes fans began chanting “U-S-D! U-S-D!”. They were met with LOUD boos. Thought it was pretty damn funny because that was the loudest the crowd was during the game, save the INT that sealed the deal.

Safe travels to all the Kennesaw State fans!! Hope you enjoy Huntsville, although there isn’t much to do but watch football. I hear there are a few prisoners that escaped last night though...

does KC have them in class yet?

[Daytripper]

does KC have them in class yet?

You've got us mixed up with SELA.

[katss07]

does KC have them in class yet?
He is sending them to Youngstown and Southeastern Louisiana.

[Singcntry]

None with KSU... previous on-field experience tarnished that


WAAAAAHHHH!xasswhipx

[BNATION]

Yea that's odd we usually do not boo other team chants. Perhaps the Refs had everyone fired up. I was unable to make the game so on my phone did not see or hear that.


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[eneq]

None with KSU... previous on-field experience tarnished that

I'm curious, what specific event are you referencing?

[ksu_owls]

Probably the one where we whooped them 38-0 this season. They got cocky because they beat a first and second year program and now they're butt hurt I guess?

[eneq]

Probably the one where we whooped them 38-0 this season. They got cocky because they beat a first and second year program and now they're butt hurt I guess?

I wasn't trying to trash talk. I'm just genuinely interested in the experience that he's referencing.

[BNATION]

Man is it only Tuesday? I'm ready for some football!


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[caribbeanhen]

the QB for Kennesaw, Chandler Burks might not be an eye popping talent but he is a talent... I think he brings the same type of winning qualities to the table that a Schor brings for JMU, don't underestimate him and only a sophomore....

Kennesaw will run it all day long, and Sammy will pass it all day long I think... not sure how the Kennesaw pass D is but the sure can stop the run

[BNATION]

If SHSU is smart, they turn this into a shootout. 9 guys in the box. Man up No back safety. Make this team throw to beat you. If that happens we run away with it.


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[ksu_owls]

If SHSU is smart, they turn this into a shootout. 9 guys in the box. Man up No back safety. Make this team throw to beat you. If that happens we run away with it.


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Attention all SHSU fans: KSU can throw the ball. No reasonable defense would put 9 guys in the box with Justin Sumpter on the field. One of the reasons our run game is strong is because we have talented receivers (that's not a comparison to your receivers, although JS would hold his own no doubt). It doesn't mean we use them a whole lot, but we have proven that we can. I don't understand this mentality that SHSU thinks they have the secret to stopping our running game that better run defenses have not been able to. "if they're smart they'll just stop them from running by god."

[eneq]

If SHSU is smart, they turn this into a shootout. 9 guys in the box. Man up No back safety. Make this team throw to beat you. If that happens we run away with it.


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If SHSU stacks the box, it'll be a loooong day for them. KSU will destroy them on tosses, mesh options, and outside counters. You don't stop the option by loading up the box

[BNATION]

If SHSU stacks the box, it'll be a loooong day for them. KSU will destroy them on tosses, mesh options, and outside counters. You don't stop the option by loading up the box

Again if we sellout run and man up your receivers I like our chances. It's ok if they have some big gainers/Td's/quick scores. We don't want 6min scores. We can score for score with y'all I think. Not if you grind 5-7 min per possession. It's not a secret formula. Just my thoughts.


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[ksu_owls]

Again if we sellout run and man up your receivers I like our chances. It's ok if they have some big gainers/Td's/quick scores. We don't want 6min scores. We can score for score with y'all I think. Not if you grind 5-7 min per possession. It's not a secret formula. Just my thoughts.


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So your game plan is to not play real defense in hopes to score more than us? You're proving right everyone who criticizes SHSU.

[BNATION]

So your game plan is to not play real defense in hopes to score more than us? You're proving right everyone who criticizes SHSU.

On the contrary, I just hope we don't sit back and let y'all chew it up? I don't know how that's proving anyone right about SHSU. I'm sure you hope we don't score on every possession either? lol I just know if we can get you guys out of your element and make y'all play from behind throwing the ball we will run away with it.


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[Outsider1]

So your game plan is to not play real defense in hopes to score more than us? You're proving right everyone who criticizes SHSU.

Yep

[Outsider1]

That is exactly what I was fearing earlier. You can have multiple play off games with an offense first mentality, but that is why you don't end up the last one standing very much. Again, we know from first hand experience......

[Outsider1]

On the contrary, I just hope we don't sit back and let y'all chew it up? I don't know how that's proving anyone right about SHSU. I'm sure you hope we don't score on every possession either? lol I just know if we can get you guys out of your element and make y'all play from behind throwing the ball we will run away with it.


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Nothing against you BNATION, but ksu_owls pretty much nailed what you said. I don't know if it is what you meant or not.

[BNATION]

Nothing against you BNATION, but ksu_owls pretty much nailed what you said. I don't know if it is what you meant or not.

That's fine. If a game plan of getting KSU off theirs is dumb and makes SHSU dumb then we shall be dumb. If they chew up 4-6 yard carries all day we do not keep up. That's my whole point. That's all. What say you KSU. How do you think your QB and receivers stack up to play from behind should that be the case?


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[ksu_owls]

On the contrary, I just hope we don't sit back and let y'all chew it up? I don't know how that's proving anyone right about SHSU. I'm sure you hope we don't score on every possession either? lol


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I may have misunderstood your comment, but your response is interesting. From what I read you would prefer sell out on the run and potentially get beat for some quick scores, but you fail to realize selling out on the run doesn't stop a well ran TO. Sell out or not we have the potential to control TOP by long sustained drives. Your rushing defense YPG ranks 6th out of the 11 teams we've played (not sure that you guys play very many rush heavy teams which would help your YPG). If we come in an execute we can control TOP-- that does not mean we win but it is our best chance at winning. I respect the hell out of your passing game! I think it will give us fits. I hope our FCS leading interceptions (also one in all 13 games we've played) isn't a fluke and we're able to find a few on Saturday. I know there will be plenty of chances with the amount of passing attempts. I honestly think this will be a fun and exciting game!

[Outsider1]

Either way, it will still be a very interesting game to watch.

[BNATION]

I may have misunderstood your comment, but your response is interesting. From what I read you would prefer sell out on the run and potentially get beat for some quick scores, but you fail to realize selling out on the run doesn't stop a well ran TO. Sell out or not we have the potential to control TOP by long sustained drives. Your rushing defense YPG ranks 6th out of the 11 teams we've played (not sure that you guys play very many rush heavy teams which would help your YPG). If we come in an execute we can control TOP-- that does not mean we win but it is our best chance at winning. I respect the hell out of your passing game! I think it will give us fits. I hope our FCS leading interceptions (also one in all 13 games we've played) isn't a fluke and we're able to find a few on Saturday. I know there will be plenty of chances with the amount of passing attempts. I honestly think this will be a fun and exciting game!

I think we got crossed up. Yes and I agree just because we sell out doesn't mean we stop it. Stopping a well run TO is about assignments. Miss one and they are off to the races. This is such a interesting matchup. I really believe that this will be a 10-20 point game either way it goes. If we can shut down the TO I think it gets ugly, if we can't, I think it's ugly for us. Quick.


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[ksu_owls]

That's fine. If a game plan of getting KSU off theirs is dumb and makes SHSU dumb then we shall be dumb. If they chew up 4-6 yard carries all day we do not keep up. That's my whole point. That's all. What say you KSU. How do you think your QB and receivers stack up to play from behind should that be the case?


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If we get behind we will continue chewing clock and trust our defense to make stops. That game plan has not failed us and they are more than capable to do so. We do have a hurry up shotgun offense that is for quick strikes. It was very effective in the Montana State game. (remember, at the time beating MSU was like the biggest thing ever for us. I know they aren't even in the playoffs, but it was huge for us!)

[Birdman_]

That's fine. If a game plan of getting KSU off theirs is dumb and makes SHSU dumb then we shall be dumb. If they chew up 4-6 yard carries all day we do not keep up. That's my whole point. That's all. What say you KSU. How do you think your QB and receivers stack up to play from behind should that be the case?


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Playing from behind certainly isn’t ideal, but our offense has shown that it’s capable of moving down the field quickly both on the ground and in the air. Our passing game isn’t our strength, but when needed, it’s been effective. I’m not too concerned about KSU scoring, I just hope we can limit SHST to less than 35 pts. If our defense can get some stops, and TOP is heavily in our favor, we may be able to keep the game in the 30s, and I’d like our chances.

[Birdman_]

If we get behind we will continue chewing clock and trust our defense to make stops. That game plan has not failed us and they are more than capable to do so. We do have a hurry up shotgun offense that is for quick strikes. It was very effective in the Montana State game. (remember, at the time beating MSU was like the biggest thing ever for us. I know they aren't even in the playoffs, but it was huge for us!)
That was probably the first game where I really started to wonder how we’d do against some of the top tier FCS programs. The Montana State game was a grind, and it wasn’t pretty, but I was fairly certain we’d get handled in that game. I’ve always been cautiously optimistic and hopeful about the Owls, but now I have no reason to believe they can’t show up against anyone and compete. The playoffs this year have been incredible so far, and considering we have so many Redshirt Juniors, next season could be special as well.

[MR. CHICKEN]

....KC......HAS ENCOUNTERED.....TRIPLE-O'S....FROM NAVY/GA. SOUFFERN/THE CITADEL/RHODE ISLAND/WOFFY.......AN' PREVAILED....xcoolx....AWK!

[ksu_owls]

....KC......HAS ENCOUNTERED.....TRIPLE-O'S....FROM NAVY/GA. SOUFFERN/THE CITADEL/RHODE ISLAND/WOFFY.......AN' PREVAILED....xcoolx....AWK!


Honestly we need more Mr Chicken! lol I love this guy! If you're a beer drinking chicken I would drink a beer with you.

[BNATION]

Honestly we need more Mr Chicken! lol I love this guy! If you're a beer drinking chicken I would drink a beer with you.

Agreed.


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[McNeese72]

So let the team finish it then.... you realize by carrying on like you do here on AGS about SHSU you're doing the exact same thing you called SHSU fans out about right? NDSU and SHSU aren't even playing each other yet for crying out loud. At least wait until next week when that may happen before you get into dick measuring thread derailments.

This!!!

The whole back and forth is screwing up the whole thread who want to read about Sam and Kennesaw St playing each other.

Getting tired of having wading through the dick measuring posts.

Doc

[MR. CHICKEN]

Honestly we need more Mr Chicken! lol I love this guy! If you're a beer drinking chicken I would drink a beer with you.

..........xbeerchugx.....................BRAWK!!

[DirtyDukes]

Okay. It's official. TennBison is the NDSU version of The Pod.....

Woof that's the worst thing you can say to someone


I haven't read anything else in this thread lately, so I don't know who's in the right or wrong, but how is it possible that every single thread that SHSU is a part of devolves into anarchy?

SHSU fans?

[caribbeanhen]

I am surprised at the vote tally. I don't think KSU will keep pace personally.

and appears to be getting even more lopsided... I expect a close game

[Birdman_]

This!!!

The whole back and forth is screwing up the whole thread who want to read about Sam and Kennesaw St playing each other.

Getting tired of having wading through the dick measuring posts.

Doc

Truth. I will say though that it’s impressive how much some people try to understand and keep up with what’s going on with programs outside of their own conference. Really enjoying the football discussions, and trying to learn more about other programs as well to be able to contribute in a quasi meaningful way re: programs other than KSU sometime soon

[LuckyKat]

If SHSU is smart, they turn this into a shootout. 9 guys in the box. Man up No back safety. Make this team throw to beat you. If that happens we run away with it.


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SABADOOOCH!!!

[beerkat]

SHSU fans?

go back and read pages 1 and 2 of thread to see who came in firing shots

[Daytripper]

go back and read pages 1 and 2 of thread to see who came in firing shots

Exactly!! The trolls come into every SHSU thread and blow it up. And when we fire back, they call us the bad guys.... I usually just ignore them, but occasionally I will engage..

[katss07]

Who would win? USD vs Kennesaw State

[Serpentor]

Exactly!! The trolls come into every SHSU thread and blow it up. And when we fire back, they call us the bad guys.... I usually just ignore them, but occasionally I will engage..

It's not even worth debating anymore, really. The further we get in the playoffs, the more it pisses off the haters. They won't ever respect us, so just ignore their trolling.

[BNATION]

If anyone wants to hear Coach Bohannon and Coach Keeler press call, go to the southland conference Facebook page. Decent interviews for both coaches.


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[katss07]

Not sure who runs “the owls nest” twitter account, but it’s not going to be easy for whoever does when KSU loses. And isn’t every week #SHSUHateWeek? Apparently the SHSU administration is pushing this game. Hope to see tons of orange! KSU fans and team better be ready. It. Will. Be. Loud. And it will only be a tougher environment the more Briscoe throws TDs. KSU gets down by a few scores=Owls in trouble.

Kennesaw people, how many people repping KSU are heading west to Texas?

[ksu_owls]

Not sure who runs “the owls nest” twitter account, but it’s not going to be easy for whoever does when KSU loses. And isn’t every week #SHSUHateWeek? Apparently the SHSU administration is pushing this game. Hope to see tons of orange! KSU fans and team better be ready. It. Will. Be. Loud. And it will only be a tougher environment the more Briscoe throws TDs. KSU gets down by a few scores=Owls in trouble.

Kennesaw people, how many people repping KSU are heading west to Texas?

I honestly don't know. There will be a decent crowd but this time of year and last minute travel plans are hard to make (at least that's my excuse). I'm starting to think the owls are going to run everywhere they want, need, think about. I've been trying to be level headed and not bias, but SHSU's defense is less and less impressive every time I take a look at anything of theirs. They have a great offense and everyone can agree on that, but that's MORE than half of the game for them when our offense will most likely control 35+ minutes of the game. I'm still not saying bet the barn on the Owls winning, but a few appearances by the Turnover Plank and this one is over.

[BNATION]

I am cautiously optimistic that our run defense shows up. At times this year. Usually for a half, has looked very impressive. Went to practice today and they look sharp. Had scout team running KSU offense.


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[katss07]

I honestly don't know. There will be a decent crowd but this time of year and last minute travel plans are hard to make (at least that's my excuse). I'm starting to think the owls are going to run everywhere they want, need, think about. I've been trying to be level headed and not bias, but SHSU's defense is less and less impressive every time I take a look at anything of theirs. They have a great offense and everyone can agree on that, but that's MORE than half of the game for them when our offense will most likely control 35+ minutes of the game. I'm still not saying bet the barn on the Owls winning, but a few appearances by the Turnover Plank and this one is over.

Chris Stewart and PJ Hall are the highlights of our defense. Both can get to the quarterback, both are quick and both can stop the run. If you guys had a good passing game to go with the TO, we would be toast. But we can stop the run. Yes, they have been very unimpressive against the SLC, but the Southland is very pass heavy. I think the rush D is our strong suit as a unit. The Kats have stopped run heavy teams before, and coach Keeler knows how to control the TO.

No doubt that KSU will control the clock, but when playing SHSU a slow offense CAN hurt you (not saying it will). Sometimes offense is the best defense, but its not like the KSU defenses is outstanding. Beating Horn and the Jacksonville State...offense (kinda) is one thing. Beating JB is another. This should be a very close game that might come down to the wire, but if KSU doesn’t keep pace early they won’t be able to come back like USD did.
Ill go ahead and predict that the Kats do score early and get ahead, then do enough to win. 48-35 SHSU. I don’t believe anyone will score 50+.

I don’t wanna see that plank! That is the best prop ever, but it won’t be out this weekend. ESPN loves them some Miami turnover chain. The plank is better!! I love the story behind it. Hope it becomes a Kennesaw tradition.

[Birdman_]

I am cautiously optimistic that our run defense shows up. At times this year. Usually for a half, has looked very impressive. Went to practice today and they look sharp. Had scout team running KSU offense.


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Should be fun - especially since it’s somewhat of a true toss up, and both teams couldn’t be more different. I think this will be a great stage for our offense to show how explosive they can be, but we’ll see how it goes on Saturday. I’m most interested in SHSU’s offense though, and how KSU’s defense stacks up.

[Birdman_]

Chris Stewart and PJ Hall are the highlights of our defense. Both can get to the quarterback, both are quick and both can stop the run. If you guys had a good passing game to go with the TO, we would be toast. But we can stop the run. Yes, they have been very unimpressive against the SLC, but the Southland is very pass heavy. I think the rush D is our strong suit as a unit. The Kats have stopped run heavy teams before, and coach Keeler knows how to control the TO.

No doubt that KSU will control the clock, but when playing SHSU a slow offense CAN hurt you (not saying it will). Sometimes offense is the best defense, but its not like the KSU defenses is outstanding. Beating Horn and the Jacksonville State...offense (kinda) is one thing. Beating JB is another. This should be a very close game that might come down to the wire, but if KSU doesn’t keep pace early they won’t be able to come back like USD did.
Ill go ahead and predict that the Kats do score early and get ahead, then do enough to win. 48-35 SHSU. I don’t believe anyone will score 50+.

I don’t wanna see that plank! That is the best prop ever, but it won’t be out this weekend. ESPN loves them some Miami turnover chain. The plank is better!! I love the story behind it. Hope it becomes a Kennesaw tradition.

Haha it’s awesome that Plank is almost universally appreciated. It’s been so great for our program, and is really the perfect prop to represent our program. The exposure from Plank has been unbelievable for KSU.

[ksu_owls]

Chris Stewart and PJ Hall are the highlights of our defense. Both can get to the quarterback, both are quick and both can stop the run. If you guys had a good passing game to go with the TO, we would be toast. But we can stop the run. Yes, they have been very unimpressive against the SLC, but the Southland is very pass heavy. I think the rush D is our strong suit as a unit. The Kats have stopped run heavy teams before, and coach Keeler knows how to control the TO.

No doubt that KSU will control the clock, but when playing SHSU a slow offense CAN hurt you (not saying it will). Sometimes offense is the best defense, but its not like the KSU defenses is outstanding. Beating Horn and the Jacksonville State...offense (kinda) is one thing. Beating JB is another. This should be a very close game that might come down to the wire, but if KSU doesn’t keep pace early they won’t be able to come back like USD did.
Ill go ahead and predict that the Kats do score early and get ahead, then do enough to win. 48-35 SHSU. I don’t believe anyone will score 50+.

I don’t wanna see that plank! That is the best prop ever, but it won’t be out this weekend. ESPN loves them some Miami turnover chain. The plank is better!! I love the story behind it. Hope it becomes a Kennesaw tradition.

THANK YOU for respecting The Plank!! haha, most people hate to show it props-- see, that's how I know you guys are good people! My only gripe with what you said is that our defense isn't outstanding. It bends but doesn't break very often. We gave up ~400 passing yards to a Samford offense and they scored 17 points against us. Is giving up 400 through the air outstanding? Nope. That could easily equate to 500 against you guys, but limiting that to 17 points is pretty damn solid. And as sorry as JSU's offense was on Saturday, I'd like to contribute some of that suckness to the performance by our defense. I think the difference between JSU and SHSU is that you guys won't quit once we stuff you a few times on offense. Looking at stats, I think 3rd conversions are going to be a telling factor. You guys are at 37% (edited %). We could potentially feast on that.

[katss07]

THANK YOU for respecting The Plank!! haha, most people hate to show it props-- see, that's how I know you guys are good people! My only gripe with what you said is that our defense isn't outstanding. It bends but doesn't break very often. We gave up ~400 passing yards to a Samford offense and they scored 17 points against us. Is giving up 400 through the air outstanding? Nope. That could easily equate to 500 against you guys, but limiting that to 17 points is pretty damn solid. And as sorry as JSU's offense was on Saturday, I'd like to contribute some of that suckness to the performance by our defense. I think the difference between JSU and SHSU is that you guys won't quit once we stuff you a few times on offense. Looking at stats, I think 3rd conversions are going to be a telling factor. You guys are at 37% (edited %). We could potentially feast on that.

We were fine in the first half of last weeks game on third down. Second half hurt us. I think Keeler’s past experiences with the TO will help the defense get off the field. Forcing early punts will be huge for the Kats. If we go up early it could be a blowout. But knowing this Kats team they will be up by 3 scores at half, let the opponent back into the game and then win by 2 points.

[Birdman_]

THANK YOU for respecting The Plank!! haha, most people hate to show it props-- see, that's how I know you guys are good people! My only gripe with what you said is that our defense isn't outstanding. It bends but doesn't break very often. We gave up ~400 passing yards to a Samford offense and they scored 17 points against us. Is giving up 400 through the air outstanding? Nope. That could easily equate to 500 against you guys, but limiting that to 17 points is pretty damn solid. And as sorry as JSU's offense was on Saturday, I'd like to contribute some of that suckness to the performance by our defense. I think the difference between JSU and SHSU is that you guys won't quit once we stuff you a few times on offense. Looking at stats, I think 3rd conversions are going to be a telling factor. You guys are at 37% (edited %). We could potentially feast on that.

Agreed. There’s always some level of bias until the game is played, but the more I look into the details, I’m not so sure this game will be too different than our game against Samford. SHSU’s offense is a bit more impressive in some ways, but it’s not drastically different. I think there’s a chance JB blows the doors off like he normally does, but I think it’s more likely he takes what we give him, racks up yards, and KSU’s defense limits the number of points on the scoreboard. That’s especially true if we can force some turnovers. I’m also expecting KSU’s offense to have a similar game to what we had against Monmouth. Monmouth’s rush defense averages 140 ypg (ranks #43), and we put up 405 yards on the ground. That was certainly aided by turnovers, but the point remains the same since SHSU’s opponents have averaged 165 ypg on the ground.

[ksu_owls]

We were fine in the first half of last weeks game on third down. Second half hurt us. I think Keeler’s past experiences with the TO will help the defense get off the field. Forcing early punts will be huge for the Kats. If we go up early it could be a blowout. But knowing this Kats team they will be up by 3 scores at half, let the opponent back into the game and then win by 2 points.

I don't want to beat a dead horse here, I seriously think you are falling into the same trap everyone else has when it comes to our offense. You can't effectively replicate it in a one week scout team session, it's unlikely that we dip below our third down conversion average of 50% and our 4th down conversion average of 70% given that your rush defense is the 6th best that we've faced this year and the majority of SLC teams are pass heavy (meaning you would have better rushing numbers due to less attempts). I'll never say that you guys won't score, because I believe you will. I just think we will score often and probably find the edge to win in holding you to your 3rd down conversion %. I would argue that we are above the average defense you have faced. (edited because I'm stupid and can't type)

[katss07]

Yeah, obviously the Kat fans will pick SHSU and the Owls will pick KSU. I think you can expect a better defense then what you guys faced in Monmouth and a much better offense then Samford, respectfully to those teo playoff teams (still don’t know why or how MU made it). JB isn’t one to “take what he is given”. Big gainers are a part of our game. Also, don’t overlook Avery and Bulmer. They could be a deciding factor.

[ksu_owls]

Yeah, obviously the Kat fans will pick SHSU and the Owls will pick KSU. I think you can expect a better defense then what you guys faced in Monmouth and a much better offense then Samford, respectfully to those teo playoff teams (still don’t know why or how MU made it). JB isn’t one to “take what he is given”. Big gainers are a part of our game. Also, don’t overlook Avery and Bulmer. They could be a deciding factor.

Ha, true! How boring would it be if we thought the other team was going to win. I like you katss07! I'll try to hide that come Saturday, but for now... I like you.

[katss07]

I don't want to beat a dead horse here, I seriously think you are falling into the same trap everyone else has when it comes to our offense. You can't effectively replicate it in a one week scout team session, it's unlikely that we dip below our third down conversion average of 50% and our 4th down conversion average of 70% given that your rush defense is the 6th best that we've faced this year and the majority of SLC teams are pass heavy (meaning you would have better rushing numbers due to less attempts). I'll never say that you guys won't score, because I believe you will. I just think we will score often and probably find the edge to win in holding you to your 3rd down conversion %. I would argue that we are above the average defense you have faced. (edited because I'm stupid and can't type)
Nicholls St is the closest comparison to Kennesaw for us. They have a better quarterback IMO. They have many guys who can run. When you look into it deeper, it’s fairly clear Kennesaw has a better offense and running game. We held Nicholls to 17 points. They don’t play the keep away game like Kennesaw most likely will, but they have a above average quarterback and a few potent backs.

[ksu_owls]

Nicholls St is the closest comparison to Kennesaw for us. They have a better quarterback IMO. They have many guys who can run. When you look into it deeper, it’s fairly clear Kennesaw has a better offense and running game. We held Nicholls to 17 points. They don’t play the keep away game like Kennesaw most likely will, but they have a above average quarterback and a few potent backs.

They rushed for 171 yards and average 200. They convert 3rd downs 35%. They also suck on defense is what the stats say. I think this just goes to prove that neither of us have that great of a comparison which makes this all the more fun! Samford is a little more SHSU-like than Nicholls is KSU-like.

[Birdman_]

Yeah, obviously the Kat fans will pick SHSU and the Owls will pick KSU. I think you can expect a better defense then what you guys faced in Monmouth and a much better offense then Samford, respectfully to those teo playoff teams (still don’t know why or how MU made it). JB isn’t one to “take what he is given”. Big gainers are a part of our game. Also, don’t overlook Avery and Bulmer. They could be a deciding factor.

Totally agree, I just think those are the closest comparisons based on what we had on our schedule. It could go any number of ways, and the fact that we’ve played so few “elite” teams, we really have no way of knowing how we stack up against almost anyone in the playoffs until we actually play.

[katss07]

Totally agree, I just think those are the closest comparisons based on what we had on our schedule. It could go any number of ways, and the fact that we’ve played so few “elite” teams, we really have no way of knowing how we stack up against almost anyone in the playoffs until we actually play.
Despite playing two playoff teams during the regular season, I think SHSU is the first truly elite team you guys will play this season. Yeah, the Samford win was big and the win over MU was fine. Jacksonville State has an outstanding defensive unit, so you will be ready. But I think the Bearkats will be the best team you guys have played all year. It will be fun to see how far you guys have really come.

[TennBison]

Then why the **** are you here. Get get your ass out of here. Go back to Bisonville or the NDSU thread. Seriously, no one here wants to hear this **** but you. You made your point. Talk football now. Or **** off.
Boy, all the hostilities and cursing, you can dish it out, but can't take it. I am warming up just in case you end up coming to Fargo for the semis.

[caribbeanhen]

Kennesaw looks like they play some good physical defense against the run, haven't seen enough to gauge how you defend a passing team, I guess it would be sage to guess Samford was the best passing team you played this year.... beat em the second time, Kennesaw on a serious roll here

if you can figure out a way to disrupt Briscoe somehow, you have a serious chance to win this game, but disrupting Briscoe is easier said than done and only done by previous Champions NDSU and JMU if I recall

[TennBison]

Lol then go back and read. Even other NDSU fans are trying to get this guy out of here.


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Only one up to this point.

[ksu_owls]

Despite playing two playoff teams during the regular season, I think SHSU is the first truly elite team you guys will play this season. Yeah, the Samford win was big and the win over MU was fine. Jacksonville State has an outstanding defensive unit, so you will be ready. But I think the Bearkats will be the best team you guys have played all year. It will be fun to see how far you guys have really come.

That is a fair statement! I think SHSU has some special talent on offense unlike anything we've seen this year. Defensively I don't view you guys as elite, but if we can't stop you from scoring that may not come into play. NO PRESSURE KSU DEFENSE :|

[TennBison]

If SHSU is smart, they turn this into a shootout. 9 guys in the box. Man up No back safety. Make this team throw to beat you. If that happens we run away with it.


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The problem with doing that, especially against a option team, is that once they get a play that gets past your first wave of defenders (9 guys) then all you have left to stop a TD run is 2 defenders and they will have blockers on them. So lets say your theory works 70% of the time, which is probably about the average, they (KSU ) ends up with a potential big run scoring play.

[TennBison]

That is exactly what I was fearing earlier. You can have multiple play off games with an offense first mentality, but that is why you don't end up the last one standing very much. Again, we know from first hand experience......
All you have to do is look at the pros. How many of their teams are built on offenses that play a spread offense and score fast mentality where they put their defense out on the field for 38-40 minutes. It's pretty much zero, that are good and win a lot. If it works and it can be a constant winning formula, the pros will use it.

[katss07]

Boy, all the hostilities and cursing, you can dish it out, but can't take it. I am warming up just in case you end up coming to Fargo for the semis.
Oh I can take it...in the trash talking thread. No need to trash this with your crap.

[Birdman_]

Despite playing two playoff teams during the regular season, I think SHSU is the first truly elite team you guys will play this season. Yeah, the Samford win was big and the win over MU was fine. Jacksonville State has an outstanding defensive unit, so you will be ready. But I think the Bearkats will be the best team you guys have played all year. It will be fun to see how far you guys have really come.

Yeah, the only teams I’d put into that category would be JSU and Coastal from a couple years ago (although we were a totally different team back then). Wasn’t implying Samford, Liberty, or others fit the elite category (although those two are definitely respected programs). Main point is that we don’t have have a long history of playing against high quality offenses or defenses, so we learn a lot from games like this one. SHSU could very well be the best team we’ve faced to date, but there’s also the chance that JSU isn’t as bad as many are saying they are after our game. We’ll see.

[TennBison]

Oh I can take it...in the trash talking thread. No need to trash this with your crap.
Just looked on the smack talk thread. Looks like the SHSU fans can't take it. Bnation posting over there about a month ago trying to talk smack about JMU. JMU, the defending national champions who just happen to be undefeated (then and now). The same school who nuked SHSU by 58 points last year.

[BNATION]

Just looked on the smack talk thread. Looks like the SHSU fans can't take it. Bnation posting over there about a month ago trying to talk smack about JMU. JMU, the defending national champions who just happen to be undefeated (then and now). The same school who nuked SHSU by 58 points last year.

Yes... I went to talk smack on a.. wait for it... smack thread. Please, you get dumber by the day.


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[BNATION]

Just looked on the smack talk thread. Looks like the SHSU fans can't take it. Bnation posting over there about a month ago trying to talk smack about JMU. JMU, the defending national champions who just happen to be undefeated (then and now). The same school who nuked SHSU by 58 points last year.

Please go back to the smack thread. We were actually talking football man. Please.


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[katss07]

Just looked on the smack talk thread. Looks like the SHSU fans can't take it. Bnation posting over there about a month ago trying to talk smack about JMU. JMU, the defending national champions who just happen to be undefeated (then and now). The same school who nuked SHSU by 58 points last year.
The JMU thread is somewhere. This is all about KSU and SHSU. I can take it in that thread, because thats what it is all about. Why don’t you add some info to this thread? Please talk football or go.

[TennBison]

The JMU thread is somewhere. This is all about KSU and SHSU. I can take it in that thread, because thats what it is all about. Why don’t you add some info to this thread? Please talk football or go.
I did just talk football, 2 posts ago(by me), feel free to go back and read them.

[TennBison]

Despite playing two playoff teams during the regular season, I think SHSU is the first truly elite team you guys will play this season. Yeah, the Samford win was big and the win over MU was fine. Jacksonville State has an outstanding defensive unit, so you will be ready. But I think the Bearkats will be the best team you guys have played all year. It will be fun to see how far you guys have really come.
Ok, you want me to talk football, well here you go.
You are wrong, JSU is the best team they are set or have already played this year. SHSU finished the regular season with the same record as JSU and JSU was ranked higher. JSU had a much better defense and the offense was not that far off compared to SHSU. SHSU is probably the second best team they have faced up to and including this coming Saturday.

[TennBison]

Kennesaw looks like they play some good physical defense against the run, haven't seen enough to gauge how you defend a passing team, I guess it would be sage to guess Samford was the best passing team you played this year.... beat em the second time, Kennesaw on a serious roll here

if you can figure out a way to disrupt Briscoe somehow, you have a serious chance to win this game, but disrupting Briscoe is easier said than done and only done by previous Champions NDSU and JMU if I recall
I don't believe NDSU has ever faced Brisco, at least I don't think he played in 2014.

[BNATION]

Ok, you want me to talk football, well here you go.
You are wrong, JSU is the best team they are set or have already played this year. SHSU finished the regular season with the same record as JSU and JSU was ranked higher. JSU had a much better defense and the offense was not that far off compared to SHSU. SHSU is probably the second best team they have faced up to and including this coming Saturday.

Ok here we go. SHSU offensive ranking in FCS #1. JSU ranking #35. Again man. Get your stuff straight. Jacksonville was no doubt very good defensively. But anyone who plays SHSU is playing the most potent offense in the country. Just to straighten that out. So since your analysis is now done how about a wager? I'm a degenerate gambler full disclosure...


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[katss07]

Ok, you want me to talk football, well here you go.
You are wrong, JSU is the best team they are set or have already played this year. SHSU finished the regular season with the same record as JSU and JSU was ranked higher. JSU had a much better defense and the offense was not that far off compared to SHSU. SHSU is probably the second best team they have faced up to and including this coming Saturday.
Wrong. You bring up Jacksonville’s defense. Yes their D is spectacular. They have a strong suit just like us. Ours happens to be offense. A top 10 offense in the country, if not top 5. Jacksonville State was very worthy of making the playoffs, but does record matter. Last season SHSU was bashed after going 11-0. JSU is also in a weaker conference then Sam is. Ratings don’t matter sir, winning does. And who is still winning? Sam Houston State.

Ask an Owls fan who they think their toughest test was after Saturday. I think the Kats will win, so obviously in that case it would be SHSU. But anything can happen.

If you are telling me SHSU’s offense and Jacksonville’s offenses are similar, you don’t know football. Even JSU fans will admit that. I’ll admit our D is nowhere close the theirs. Our offense is worlds better and can ourscore KSU.

[HootyHoo]

None with KSU... previous on-field experience tarnished that


I believe he is referring to the recent 38-0 beatdown KSU gave them.

[HootyHoo]

None with KSU... previous on-field experience tarnished that


38-0 :D

[BNATION]

Lol Bison fans. Please come get your boy. He is making a fool of himself and your university if he's a graduate lol.


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[TennBison]

Ok here we go. SHSU offensive ranking in FCS #1. JSU ranking #35. Again man. Get your stuff straight. Jacksonville was no doubt very good defensively. But anyone who plays SHSU is playing the most potent offense in the country. Just to straighten that out. So since your analysis is now done how about a wager? I'm a degenerate gambler full disclosure...


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You team scores on about 1/2 of it's possessions usually. Looking back on your last 5 games you are right around 14 possessions per game. JSU outside of only last week also scores on 1/2 of their possessions and they are around 10-11 for their last 5 games. SHSU averages 45 (roughly) per game and JSU averages 30, that is two scores difference plus 1 point. So since you average 4 more possessions at a 50% scoring rate that gives you the extra 15 point scoring advantage. But if you play JSU (who averages 10-11 possessions)and possession per team are even because of it (you have the ball then they get the ball), the score is the same. If you each get the ball 12 times in a game between JSU and SHSU and you both score 1/2 of the time you have the same score. Offenses are equal score wise that way, and since actual points are what wins the game, that matters way more than yards gained. And yards gained in a game can very well be a product of how often you get the ball which would give your yards per game a out of wack advantage since have more possessions than they do.

[TennBison]

Wrong. You bring up Jacksonville’s defense. Yes their D is spectacular. They have a strong suit just like us. Ours happens to be offense. A top 10 offense in the country, if not top 5. Jacksonville State was very worthy of making the playoffs, but does record matter. Last season SHSU was bashed after going 11-0. JSU is also in a weaker conference then Sam is. Ratings don’t matter sir, winning does. And who is still winning? Sam Houston State.

Ask an Owls fan who they think their toughest test was after Saturday. I think the Kats will win, so obviously in that case it would be SHSU. But anything can happen.

If you are telling me SHSU’s offense and Jacksonville’s offenses are similar, you don’t know football. Even JSU fans will admit that. I’ll admit our D is nowhere close the theirs. Our offense is worlds better and can ourscore KSU.
I do know football, see my last post just before this one. The JSU scoring rate per possession is virtually equal to yours. You have more yards and points per game only because you average more possessions.

[ksu_owls]

You team scores on about 1/2 of it's possessions usually. Looking back on your last 5 games you are right around 14 possessions per game. JSU outside of only last week also scores on 1/2 of their possessions and they are around 10-11 for their last 5 games. SHSU averages 45 (roughly) per game and JSU averages 30, that is two scores difference plus 1 point. So since you average 4 more possessions at a 50% scoring rate that gives you the extra 15 point scoring advantage. But if you play JSU (who averages 10-11 possessions)and possession per team are even because of it (you have the ball then they get the ball), the score is the same. If you each get the ball 12 times in a game between JSU and SHSU and you both score 1/2 of the time you have the same score. Offenses are equal score wise that way, and since actual points are what wins the game, that matters way more than yards gained. And yards gained in a game can very well be a product of how often you get the ball which would give your yards per game a out of wack advantage since have more possessions than they do.

I had to read this twice and put my accountant hat on but I followed you. That's an interesting perspective... I'm not a rocket scientist (just an accountant) but if KSU limits possessions.... and.... they... score 50% and hold SHSU to 50%... and get one more turnover than SHSU.... I think..... we might can win. I need Mr. Chicken to validate this point for me.

[beerkat]

SHSU - 16.25 possessions per game, 2.86 points per possession
JSU - 13.08 possessions per game, 2.20 points per possession

[TennBison]

Lol Bison fans. Please come get your boy. He is making a fool of himself and your university if he's a graduate lol.


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I did not go to NDSU, I went to Tennessee and graduated with a 3.6 GPA while playing football for them.

[beerkat]

I did not go to NDSU, I went to Tennessee and graduated with a 3.6 GPA while playing football for them.

not in math

[TennBison]

SHSU - 16.25 possessions per game, 2.86 points per possession
JSU - 13.08 possessions per game, 2.20 points per possession
Where do you go to get those stats, I looked all over for a site but did not find one. All I did for my info was go to ESPN and actually look up the games and go into stats for each one. Are those yearly stats?

[TennBison]

I had to read this twice and put my accountant hat on but I followed you. That's an interesting perspective... I'm not a rocket scientist (just an accountant) but if KSU limits possessions.... and.... they... score 50% and hold SHSU to 50%... and get one more turnover than SHSU.... I think..... we might can win. I need Mr. Chicken to validate this point for me.
Ask the plank to do it for you.

[BNATION]

not in math

I'm literally crying. This guy takes the cake. I actually love him now. 😂


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[TennBison]

I'm literally crying. This guy takes the cake. I actually love him now. 


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This isn't to hard to understand. I stated that the JSU offense isn't to far off from yours. They score at or about 50% of the time just like you do on average based on the last five games for each of you. My stats come fro ESPN and adding up your average possessions per game and theirs. You get extra possessions per game based on your quick strike offense (as well as the team you play that day), JSU gets less possessions (so will their opponent that day) and therefore will get less points and yardage per game and for the year. My math is just fine.

[beerkat]

Where do you go to get those stats, I looked all over for a site but did not find one. All I did for my info was go to ESPN and actually look up the games and go into stats for each one. Are those yearly stats?

create an excel document to add it all up, then go to each teams individual stats page. every possession can only end in so many ways for the offense, a touchdown or field goal (accounted for by counting total kickoffs), a fumble, an interception, a failed 4th down conversion, or a punt. total those up and that is a quick calculation for total number of possessions. granted that method counts the opening kickoff of each half as a possession for each team but that should come out pretty equal for everybody unless someone is a dumbass and kicks off both halves. and it doesn't account for possessions that end the half or game where the time runs out but again that should come out pretty close to the same for everybody at the end of the year. and yes these are year to date stats

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SHSU - 16.25 possessions per game, 2.86 points per possession
JSU - 13.08 possessions per game, 2.20 points per possession

for comparison - KSU 12.25 possessions per game, 2.68 points per possession

[BNATION]

If you watch the offenses play sir, there really isn't much of a comparison to be made. KSU has not seen as talented of a offensive group as SHSU this year. Now, if we allow them to move up and down the field at will this will be a long night for us. If we get off the field like I think we can on a run heavy offense. See SELA, SFA, or Nicholls, I think we can win this game.


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[katss07]

I did not go to NDSU, I went to Tennessee and graduated with a 3.6 GPA while playing football for them.
Tennessee, that is the problem. I assume you also are missing a few teeth and ate possum for dinner tonight.

[katss07]

If you watch the offenses play sir, there really isn't much of a comparison to be made. KSU has not seen as talented of a offensive group as SHSU this year. Now, if we allow them to move up and down the field at will this will be a long night for us. If we get off the field like I think we can on a run heavy offense. See SELA, SFA, or Nicholls, I think we can win this game.


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Well I think we will win this game, but I know we are capable of winning it. Kennesaw is great though. It will be a fun game.

[cx500d]

Tennessee, that is the problem. I assume you also are missing a few teeth and ate possum for dinner tonight.


This from someone who went to the harvard of huntsville?

[BNATION]

Well I think we will win this game, but I know we are capable of winning it. Kennesaw is great though. It will be a fun game.

Absolutely. We will see which defense shows up.


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[katss07]

This from someone who went to the harvard of huntsville?

I haven’t graduated HS yet.

[cx500d]

I haven’t graduated HS yet.
What did you do for your 40th B-day?

[TennBison]

SHSU - 16.25 possessions per game, 2.86 points per possession
JSU - 13.08 possessions per game, 2.20 points per possession
Sounds like I am right in line with what I said then. I stated that JSU is not far off. With a difference of .66 per possession. With 15 possessions each (spliting it up the middle) that would be a 10 point difference (43 to 33). But either you or ESPN are wrong (on both teams) ESpn has both of you scoring more points per game than what your spread sheet does. And so does yahoo sports (yahoo and ESPN are within 1/10 of a point of each other). Your stats show your scores to be .5 point per game higher and JSU stats to be 1.2 lower than what either one of those sites have to say. Here is a link https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/stats/

[katss07]

What did you do for your 40th B-day?
How am I supposed to respond to this? I’m turing 18 in June. I asked for a runner up shirt.

[BNATION]

What did you do for your 40th B-day?

Went swimming at the blue lagoon and stared at the sun with binoculars, what else do you think there is to do in Huntsvegas, aside from winning playoff games.. 😎


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[cx500d]

Went swimming at the blue lagoon and stared at the sun with binoculars, what else do you think there is to do in Huntsvegas, aside from winning playoff games.. 


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There's always visiting hours at Walls.

[TennBison]

Tennessee, that is the problem. I assume you also are missing a few teeth and ate possum for dinner tonight.
If you are assuming I grew up there, as to your lame attempt to put down people who are from Tennessee by insinuating they have poor hygiene and eat roadkill, you are wrong. I grew up in NJ, only went to school there in TN. And no, your wrong, I have all my teeth and I hate possum.

[beerkat]

Sounds like I am right in line with what I said then. I stated that JSU is not far off. With a difference of .66 per possession. With 15 possessions each (spliting it up the middle) that would be a 10 point difference (43 to 33). But either you or ESPN are wrong (on both teams) ESpn has both of you scoring more points per game than what your spread sheet does. And so does yahoo sports (yahoo and ESPN are within 1/10 of a point of each other). Your stats show your scores to be .5 point per game higher and JSU stats to be 1.2 lower than what either one of those sites have to say. Here is a link https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/stats/

It's as accurate as the stats page from each teams website, and as accurate as my fat fingers can type, with the previously stated conditions that I didn't take the time to search through each games play by play to nail down. If you want to take the time to make one better you have my blessing.

[cx500d]

If you are assuming I grew up there, as to your lame attempt to put down people who are from Tennessee by insinuating they have poor hygiene and eat roadkill, you are wrong. I grew up in NJ, only went to school there in TN. And no, your wrong, I have all my teeth and I hate possum.


Chicken fried possum shanks aren't too bad.

[katss07]

If you are assuming I grew up there, as to your lame attempt to put down people who are from Tennessee by insinuating they have poor hygiene and eat roadkill, you are wrong. I grew up in NJ, only went to school there in TN. And no, your wrong, I have all my teeth and I hate possum.

Well New Jersey is a hell of a lot better then Tennessee, but have you really tried possum?

[BNATION]

Chicken fried possum shanks aren't too bad.

I like to finish them with a spicy remoulade sauce. ;)


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[katss07]

Went swimming at the blue lagoon and stared at the sun with binoculars, what else do you think there is to do in Huntsvegas, aside from winning playoff games.. 


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Luckily I live south of Huntsville, so I don’t have to stair at a prison half my life. I only go to Huntsville when I have to, not when I really want to (aside from U related events). The lagoon is fun though.

Not as fun as beating up Big Sky teams in the playoffs.

[TennBison]

It's as accurate as the stats page from each teams website, and as accurate as my fat fingers can type, with the previously stated conditions that I didn't take the time to search through each games play by play to nail down. If you want to take the time to make one better you have my blessing.
Nah, I got tired of doing it after just the 5 games, no way in hell I am going to go through all the regular season games play by play for each team. I just thought you had a web site you were using that had all the detailed stats. ESPN and Yahoo have some, but nothing that really goes into detailed breakdowns like they do for FBS schools. But maybe there is a site out there somewhere. And the differences between you and them is no big deal and the fact that you are close shows you have some good savy with it. Kudos for having the patience to go through info and keep it all detailed.

[ksu_owls]

create an excel document to add it all up, then go to each teams individual stats page. every possession can only end in so many ways for the offense, a touchdown or field goal (accounted for by counting total kickoffs), a fumble, an interception, a failed 4th down conversion, or a punt. total those up and that is a quick calculation for total number of possessions. granted that method counts the opening kickoff of each half as a possession for each team but that should come out pretty equal for everybody unless someone is a dumbass and kicks off both halves. and it doesn't account for possessions that end the half or game where the time runs out but again that should come out pretty close to the same for everybody at the end of the year. and yes these are year to date stats

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for comparison - KSU 12.25 possessions per game, 2.68 points per possession

KSU is also holding opponents to 10.4 points per game less than their scoring averages, while SHSU allows 3.2 more points per game than the scoring average of their opponents.

Thankfully this is more than a numbers game; I play with enough numbers Mon-Fri. It will be interesting. I don't think SHSU will just run away with their normal numbers, but we'll really only know sometime after kickoff on Saturday.

[TennBison]

Simple question, with a simple yes or no answer please. Does either SHSU or KSU have a Waffle House in their towns/city?

[ksu_owls]

Simple question, with a simple yes or no answer please. Does either SHSU or KSU have a Waffle House in their towns/city?

Yes. Kennesaw has 4 and there are probably 40 within 20 miles-- not exaggerating. We are 11 miles from the perimeter of Atlanta and 20 miles from downtown. We literally have everything and I love it all except for the traffic.

[Birdman_]

Simple question, with a simple yes or no answer please. Does either SHSU or KSU have a Waffle House in their towns/city?
WaHo is based in Atlanta, so they’re everywhere in the metro area.

[beerkat]

Nah, I got tired of doing it after just the 5 games, no way in hell I am going to go through all the regular season games play by play for each team. I just thought you had a web site you were using that had all the detailed stats. ESPN and Yahoo have some, but nothing that really goes into detailed breakdowns like they do for FBS schools. But maybe there is a site out there somewhere. And the differences between you and them is no big deal and the fact that you are close shows you have some good savy with it. Kudos for having the patience to go through info and keep it all detailed.

I'm just going off the total season stats, for example SHSU's can be found here:

http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/19900/stats/football/2017/TEAMSTAT.HTM?&&&&SPSID=92960&SPID=11345&DB_OEM_ID=19900&_ga=2.56340331.1927375750.1512478546-2110055551.1502596879

I have also used the formula to look at a team's defensive stats. Early this year when I ran some numbers James Madison was holding opponents to less than 1 point per possession which is insane

[ksu_owls]

WaHo is based in Atlanta, so they’re everywhere in the metro area.

I guess technically one of those is in Marietta that I counted. There is one between campus and 5/3rd bank stadium, though!

[katss07]

Simple question, with a simple yes or no answer please. Does either SHSU or KSU have a Waffle House in their towns/city?

There is one 15 miles south of Huntsville. Other then that, nope.

[TennBison]

There is one 15 miles south of Huntsville. Other then that, nope.
4 in Kennesaw and none in Huntsville. OK Kennesaw wins this game by 4.

[ksu_owls]

4 in Kennesaw and none in Huntsville. OK Kennesaw wins this game by 4.

xlolx

[TennBison]

WaHo is based in Atlanta, so they’re everywhere in the metro area.
Based on movies or whatever, I would have guessed that Waffle House was a Texas kind of thing more than Georgia. Man I love the Waffle House.xbowx

[BNATION]

4 in Kennesaw and none in Huntsville. OK Kennesaw wins this game by 4.

Haha now that's the kind of logic I like. It's always bothered me Huntsville doesn't have a Waffle House.


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[cx500d]

Haha now that's the kind of logic I like. It's always bothered me Huntsville doesn't have a Waffle House.


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Isn't there a Buc-ee's not too far out of Huntsville?

[BNATION]

Isn't there a Buc-ee's not too far out of Huntsville?

Just north in Madisonville. Now that is Mecca you speak of hahaha.


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[cx500d]

Just north in Madisonville. Now that is Mecca you speak of hahaha.


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OK, I thought it was a little closer. Maybe you should start a Southland Conference (sponsored by Buc-ee's) thread to compete with the lame MVFC Casey's thread.

[TennBison]

Haha now that's the kind of logic I like. It's always bothered me Huntsville doesn't have a Waffle House.


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That's ok, Fargo does not have any really great places to eat. You go to some of these cities down south and they all have these really cool BBQ places or some hole in the wall place that is #1 in the nation for something. People come to Fargo and ask where is a good place to go eat and all I can tell them is Applebee's or Red Lobster.xbawlingx

[cx500d]

That's ok, Fargo does not have any really great places to eat. You go to some of these cities down south and they all have these really cool BBQ places or some hole in the wall place that is #1 in the nation for something. People come to Fargo and ask where is a good place to go eat and all I can tell them is Applebee's or Red Lobster.


I'm surprised you don't send them up to Grand Forks to the Olive Garden...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/marilyn-hagerty-olive-garden_n_1332753.html

[TheKingpin28]

That's ok, Fargo does not have any really great places to eat. You go to some of these cities down south and they all have these really cool BBQ places or some hole in the wall place that is #1 in the nation for something. People come to Fargo and ask where is a good place to go eat and all I can tell them is Applebee's or Red Lobster.

Wurst anyone?

[KSUFAN]

[QUOTE=BNATION;2584532]I am cautiously optimistic that our run defense shows up. At times this year. Usually for a half, has looked very impressive. Went to practice today and they look sharp. Had scout team running KSU offense.

I can assure you your scout team isn't running our offense like we run our offense. Your coaches can prep for it all they want. That's like our scout team is running SHSU's offense! Samford played it and we still grinded it out the second time around. Samford is closest team to SHSU KSU has played. Their QB has been at or near the top of the FCS all year in passing. Pull the Georgia game out and their passing yards per game are very close. Even with Georgia it is less than 40 yds per game difference. Your defense isn't close to JSU! I guarantee KSU will be over the 328 yds per game rushing average. You(SHSU) will get your passing yards and then some. The key will we be if we will be able to bend but not break! Hopefully we can give you guys a good game!

[McNeese75]

Based on movies or whatever, I would have guessed that Waffle House was a Texas kind of thing more than Georgia. Man I love the Waffle House.xbowx

ONLY AT 2:00 AM - They are wonderful in the wee hours but the bubble get burst pretty quickly if you try and eat at them during the day xlolx

[TennBison]

ONLY AT 2:00 AM - They are wonderful in the wee hours but the bubble get burst pretty quickly if you try and eat at them during the day xlolx
Kind of like the scene in the Waffle House in the movie Tin Cup. That is when the Waffle House is at its best. Yep, nuttin like da Waffle House afer a good night shootin **** off the fence wit some beers.

[BNATION]

There is a couple good places to eat in Huntsville. Farmhouse is really good. McKenzies not bad at all and if you like TexMex, Los Pericos is great with good Margaritas.


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[caribbeanhen]

ONLY AT 2:00 AM - They are wonderful in the wee hours but the bubble get burst pretty quickly if you try and eat at them during the day xlolx

Now this is just true! Don't remember any Waffle House talk since the GaSo Fans optioned out of here

[BNATION]

I just went back and YouTube has the Liberty game. Watched it this morning. My takeaways as follows. Liberty moved the ball extremely well, bodes very well the Kats as liberty is no where close to as explosive on offense.
Your TO is very effective at getting to the perimeter so turning everything back in and keeping contain will be very important.
Your QB does not have much of an arm but doesn't put himself in bad positions.

After watching I think if we can get off the field from time to time we are going to put up a lot of points.
Disclaimer, I've been wrong before haha.


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[Serpentor]

Haha now that's the kind of logic I like. It's always bothered me Huntsville doesn't have a Waffle House.


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We only JUST got a new HEB. Patience, young Padawan...

[Daytripper]

For those that travel and have never been to Texas, eat at a Whataburger at least once while you are here.

[BNATION]

Going to stop by the KatFan tailgate me thinks this game. Any KATFANS going to be there?

[BNATION]

Holy Crap! I just looked at the starting O line depth chart... This is the smallest Div I line ive ever seen. My mind is now blown, I cant imagine how they blocked JSU Defensive front. Attention SHSU D, turn everything and i mean everything inside, what a mismatch.....

[Daytripper]

Holy Crap! I just looked at the starting O line depth chart... This is the smallest Div I line ive ever seen. My mind is now blown, I cant imagine how they blocked JSU Defensive front. Attention SHSU D, turn everything and i mean everything inside, what a mismatch.....

Probably use a zone blocking scheme which requires quick and nimble offensive linemen. Maybe KSU fans can clarify.

[BNATION]

SHSU Defensive line
PJ Hall 6-1 310
Chris Stewart 6-2 270
Spence Williams 6-4 250
Sekou Clark 6-4 260
Azuka 6-1 265

Kennesaw O line

LT 6-3 245
LG 6-2 282
C 6-3 256
RG 6-3 300 Big Boy
RT 6-3 238 Our linebackers are bigger....

very interesting

[Singcntry]

Despite playing two playoff teams during the regular season, I think SHSU is the first truly elite team you guys will play this season. Yeah, the Samford win was big and the win over MU was fine. Jacksonville State has an outstanding defensive unit, so you will be ready. But I think the Bearkats will be the best team you guys have played all year. It will be fun to see how far you guys have really come.


Not trying to be a smartA$$, but what makes SHSU an ELITE team rater than just a good team? I see you guys in the playoffs each year, but getting beat by 50+ points each of the past two years isn't the definition of an ELITE team. I believe, based on the games I've seen, you are an above average team. Excellent Offense + Average(at best)defense = Above average team.

I saw somewhere else that you've had the scout team running a TO offense. Keep in mind, that is still SCOUT team, NOT our TO!

Can't wait till Saturday!

[Singcntry]

Probably use a zone blocking scheme which requires quick and nimble offensive linemen. Maybe KSU fans can clarify.

Is called the WEIGHT Room:D They are quick and deceptively strong....

[ksu_owls]

SHSU Defensive line
PJ Hall 6-1 310
Chris Stewart 6-2 270
Spence Williams 6-4 250
Sekou Clark 6-4 260
Azuka 6-1 265

Kennesaw O line

LT 6-3 245
LG 6-2 282
C 6-3 256
RG 6-3 300 Big Boy
RT 6-3 238 Our linebackers are bigger....

very interesting

I was worried about size before JSU, especially with their ridiculous run defense. Those "big" guys have pretty good speed. I wish I had a better answer, but they've been the same size all year and not yet been outmatched.

[BNATION]

Not trying to be a smartA$$, but what makes SHSU an ELITE team rater than just a good team? I see you guys in the playoffs each year, but getting beat by 50+ points each of the past two years isn't the definition of an ELITE team. I believe, based on the games I've seen, you are an above average team. Excellent Offense + Average(at best)defense = Above average team.

I saw somewhere else that you've had the scout team running a TO offense. Keep in mind, that is still SCOUT team, NOT our TO!

Can't wait till Saturday! again everyone loses except the national champion, elite means you have won more playoff games in the past decade than any other team aside from the Dynasty that is NDSU. Elite means 5 quarterfinal runs in the past 7 seasons. Two bad losses in 7 years doesn't mean a whole hill of beans.

[ksu_owls]

Holy Crap! I just looked at the starting O line depth chart... This is the smallest Div I line ive ever seen. My mind is now blown, I cant imagine how they blocked JSU Defensive front. Attention SHSU D, turn everything and i mean everything inside, what a mismatch.....

I don't remember more than 2 of our up the gut running plays being stuffed by JSU's hogs on their D line. I would suggest you tell your defense to try tackling instead of trying to turn the TO a certain direction. Every clip and game I've seen from SLC teams this year involved really skillful pushing and aggressive arm tackling. I'm new to FCS, but I would venture to say the SLC/SHSU isn't known for their hard hitting defenses.

[BNATION]

I don't remember more than 2 of our up the gut running plays being stuffed by JSU's hogs on their D line. I would suggest you tell your defense to try tackling instead of trying to turn the TO a certain direction. Every clip and game I've seen from SLC teams this year involved really skillful pushing and aggressive arm tackling. I'm new to FCS, but I would venture to say the SLC/SHSU isn't known for their hard hitting defenses. No doubt, alot of this is a function of the offenses, in spread offenses when your not pounding right at us games are absolutely not as physical and most tackles are open field. Look at game tape of the SELA game, SFA, and Nicholls, plenty of run stuffing big hits. IMO you will see a very physical team Saturday in SHSU D. It will surprise alot of people me thinks....

[HootyHoo]

SHSU Defensive line
PJ Hall 6-1 310
Chris Stewart 6-2 270
Spence Williams 6-4 250
Sekou Clark 6-4 260
Azuka 6-1 265

Kennesaw O line

LT 6-3 245
LG 6-2 282
C 6-3 256
RG 6-3 300 Big Boy
RT 6-3 238 Our linebackers are bigger....

very interesting

I was wondering when SHSU would discover the size of our O-Line. SHSU fans are the 4th consecutive OOC opponent to remark that they will have a significant size advantage. Spoiler Alert:they all lost.

It started with Montana State(good folks), they convinced themselves we couldn't get a push up front and therefore could not run inside the tackles. Result: 300+ yards rushing. Here's the facts: The Owls TO attack cannot be stopped, you can only hope to contain it. JSU was the first elite defense KSU has faced and even they couldn't stop it. By the end of the game they were exhausted and demoralized.

I keep seeing SHSU fans say they are the first ELITE team the Owls have seen. Well, this is not correct. Mainly, because SHSU is not an elite team, you are an elite offense. Big difference. SHSU is ranked 107th in Total Defense. You can't be an elite TEAM if you only have a third of a complete squad. KSU is going to run the ball for over 300 yards and will hold ball for 35 minutes. There is nothing your defense can do to stop it.

[DirtyDukes]

Not trying to be a smartA$$, but what makes SHSU an ELITE team rater than just a good team? I see you guys in the playoffs each year, but getting beat by 50+ points each of the past two years isn't the definition of an ELITE team. I believe, based on the games I've seen, you are an above average team. Excellent Offense + Average(at best)defense = Above average team.

I saw somewhere else that you've had the scout team running a TO offense. Keep in mind, that is still SCOUT team, NOT our TO!

Can't wait till Saturday!


again everyone loses except the national champion, elite means you have won more playoff games in the past decade than any other team aside from the Dynasty that is NDSU. Elite means 5 quarterfinal runs in the past 7 seasons. Two bad losses in 7 years doesn't mean a whole hill of beans.

LOL. Wrong. Then the Atlanta Braves of the 90s were Elite? You guys are perennial pretenders and everyone on here but you knows it, even the new guys (Hi Owls!).

[BNATION]

LOL. Wrong. Then the Atlanta Braves of the 90s were Elite? You guys are perennial pretenders and everyone on here but you knows it, even the new guys (Hi Owls!).

Agree to disagree sir. I know a lot of Bison fans that would say we are a elite FCS team. Take the "elite" word out of it. We are a perrinial top 10 team and leave it at that. JMU is elite because of two seasons? We were playing in the ship and y'all weren't even a playoff team.


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[beerkat]

Holy Crap! I just looked at the starting O line depth chart... This is the smallest Div I line ive ever seen. My mind is now blown, I cant imagine how they blocked JSU Defensive front. Attention SHSU D, turn everything and i mean everything inside, what a mismatch.....

size up front isn't everything, the denver broncos won a couple of super bowls with terrell davis running behind the smallest line in the nfl.

[beerkat]

I don't remember more than 2 of our up the gut running plays being stuffed by JSU's hogs on their D line. I would suggest you tell your defense to try tackling instead of trying to turn the TO a certain direction. Every clip and game I've seen from SLC teams this year involved really skillful pushing and aggressive arm tackling. I'm new to FCS, but I would venture to say the SLC/SHSU isn't known for their hard hitting defenses.

slc defenses, and defenses in this region generally have poor fundamentals. of course there are exceptions. i blame the growth of the spread passing game and 7 on 7 summer football at the high school level

[McNeese72]

Holy Crap! I just looked at the starting O line depth chart... This is the smallest Div I line ive ever seen. My mind is now blown, I cant imagine how they blocked JSU Defensive front. Attention SHSU D, turn everything and i mean everything inside, what a mismatch.....

Don't you know that most triple option offense lines are small and quick? That is what works best for the type of blocking they have to do.

Doc

[BNATION]

Don't you know that most triple option offense lines are small and quick? That is what works best for the type of blocking they have to do.

Doc

I get it. But this is smaller than small. Looks at GSU old line, GT, Navy. All significantly bigger aside from their RG.


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[McNeese72]

I'm new to FCS, but I would venture to say the SLC/SHSU isn't known for their hard hitting defenses.

McNeese fans "resemble" that remark. ;)

Doc

[ksu_owls]

I get it. But this is smaller than small. Looks at GSU old line, GT, Navy. All significantly bigger aside from their RG.


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Look at what GT did to JSU -vs- what KSU did to JSU. We had more rushing and passing yards than GT (both games being this season). We also held JSU's offense to fewer points. GT did score more than us, but we also took a knee on the 2 yard line with 0:39 seconds left in the game because we're classy AF lol

[Birdman_]

People are getting lost in the trees and are missing the forest. Who cares if you only think there are 1, 2, 3, or 5 “elite” teams? It’s all a matter of pointless semantics. SHSU is the 6 seed - that’s a (insert whatever term you prefer that’s core meaning is more or less a syllable of “great”) team. In our 35 game history, this SHSU team will be one of the 3/4 toughest teams we’ve faced (with JSU, 2015 Coastal, and maybe 2015 CSU being the others). You can bend words to mean almost anything you want them to be, but it’s just being petty if you understand the general point that’s being made.

[BNATION]

Look at what GT did to JSU -vs- what KSU did to JSU. We had more rushing and passing yards than GT (both games being this season). We also held JSU's offense to fewer points. GT did score more than us, but we also took a knee on the 2 yard line with 0:39 seconds left in the game because we're classy AF lol Haha I like that. No doubt doesnt mean a whole lot just was surprising to see. One would think those interior runs would be tough but yall do well with them. I do see now after watching two of yalls games on youtube your big gainers are outside (for the most part), and your athletic O line is a big part of that. Going to be fun.

[Birdman_]

Look at what GT did to JSU -vs- what KSU did to JSU. We had more rushing and passing yards than GT (both games being this season). We also held JSU's offense to fewer points. GT did score more than us, but we also took a knee on the 2 yard line with 0:39 seconds left in the game because we're classy AF lol
Pinky up! Keepin’ it classy.

[Daytripper]

People are getting lost in the trees and are missing the forest. Who cares if you only think there are 1, 2, 3, or 5 “elite” teams? It’s all a matter of pointless semantics. SHSU is the 6 seed - that’s a (insert whatever term you prefer that’s core meaning is more or less a syllable of “great”) team. In our 35 game history, this SHSU team will be one of the 3/4 toughest teams we’ve faced (with JSU, 2015 Coastal, and maybe 2015 CSU being the others). You can bend words to mean almost anything you want them to be, but it’s just being petty if you understand the general point that’s being made.

In a perfect world. But the anal-retentive tools on AGS must parse and deconstruct every, single, ****ing word of every, single, ****ing post of every, single, ****ing thread.

[BNATION]

In a perfect world. But the anal-retentive tools on AGS must parse and deconstruct every, single, ****ing word of every, single, ****ing post of every, single, ****ing thread. It is relentless isnt it?

[beerkat]

SHSU
NDSU
JMU
KSU
JSU
SHSU D
NDSU D
JMU D
KSU D
JSU D





kickoffs

101
83
82
77
69
69
37
32
41
43
kickoffs




punts

55
45
56
47
63
86
76
86
59
82
punts




interceptions
14
7
11
3
12
15
17
24
23
10
interceptions



fumbles lost
7
7
5
8
7
7
10
8
11
8
fumbles lost



missed FG
5
4
4
3
5
3
1
3
1
5
missed FG



turnover on downs
13
4
5
8
1
18
14
10
11
9
turnover on downs



games played
12
12
12
13
12
12
12
12
13
12
games played



total possessions
183
138
151
133
145
186
143
151
133
145
total possessions



total points
559
467
421
394
346
355
138
106
183
180
total points



points per possession
3.1
3.4
2.8
3.0
2.4
1.9
1.0
0.7
1.4
1.2
points per possession



possessions per game
15.3
11.5
12.6
10.2
12.1
15.5
11.9
12.6
10.2
12.1
possessions per game






Updated the excel spreadsheet, added a field for games played, then subtracted the amount of games played from the total possessions as a way to account for the 1st and 2nd half kickoff not being a true possession.

[BNATION]

SHSU
NDSU
JMU
KSU
JSU
SHSU D
NDSU D
JMU D
KSU D
JSU D





kickoffs

101
83
82
77
69
69
37
32
41
43
kickoffs




punts

55
45
56
47
63
86
76
86
59
82
punts




interceptions
14
7
11
3
12
15
17
24
23
10
interceptions



fumbles lost
7
7
5
8
7
7
10
8
11
8
fumbles lost



missed FG
5
4
4
3
5
3
1
3
1
5
missed FG



turnover on downs
13
4
5
8
1
18
14
10
11
9
turnover on downs



games played
12
12
12
13
12
12
12
12
13
12
games played



total possessions
183
138
151
133
145
186
143
151
133
145
total possessions



total points
559
467
421
394
346
355
138
106
183
180
total points



points per possession
3.1
3.4
2.8
3.0
2.4
1.9
1.0
0.7
1.4
1.2
points per possession



possessions per game
15.3
11.5
12.6
10.2
12.1
15.5
11.9
12.6
10.2
12.1
possessions per game






Updated the excel spreadsheet, added a field for games played, then subtracted the amount of games played from the total possessions as a way to account for the 1st and 2nd half kickoff not being a true possession. I like this, shows that our defense just has so many more times on the field. Points per possession are not that far off. Interesting thanks for this.

[ksu_owls]

SHSU
NDSU
JMU
KSU
JSU
SHSU D
NDSU D
JMU D
KSU D
JSU D





kickoffs

101
83
82
77
69
69
37
32
41
43
kickoffs




punts

55
45
56
47
63
86
76
86
59
82
punts




interceptions
14
7
11
3
12
15
17
24
23
10
interceptions



fumbles lost
7
7
5
8
7
7
10
8
11
8
fumbles lost



missed FG
5
4
4
3
5
3
1
3
1
5
missed FG



turnover on downs
13
4
5
8
1
18
14
10
11
9
turnover on downs



games played
12
12
12
13
12
12
12
12
13
12
games played



total possessions
183
138
151
133
145
186
143
151
133
145
total possessions



total points
559
467
421
394
346
355
138
106
183
180
total points



points per possession
3.1
3.4
2.8
3.0
2.4
1.9
1.0
0.7
1.4
1.2
points per possession



possessions per game
15.3
11.5
12.6
10.2
12.1
15.5
11.9
12.6
10.2
12.1
possessions per game






Updated the excel spreadsheet, added a field for games played, then subtracted the amount of games played from the total possessions as a way to account for the 1st and 2nd half kickoff not being a true possession.

Ohhhh I like that better! Nice work. You mentioned you were still in HS, what do you want to major in when you get to college? If you're a numbers guy Finance/Accounting is always fun. Thanks for the info.

[Outsider1]

slc defenses, and defenses in this region generally have poor fundamentals. of course there are exceptions. i blame the growth of the spread passing game and 7 on 7 summer football at the high school level


Dorrel was really wanting a more lean and strong/quick line, but found out how difficult that is to be effective in D1 and the SLC. Of course a lot of our OL issues were bad fundamentals. Those types of lines might work well with the TO, but would have to believe they would have to be VERY well conditioned and coached into a system that was good at it.

[beerkat]

Ohhhh I like that better! Nice work. You mentioned you were still in HS, what do you want to major in when you get to college? If you're a numbers guy Finance/Accounting is always fun. Thanks for the info.

That was another poster that said he was still in high school. I have a degree in accounting and work a lot of numbers all day long in the petroleum industry.

[Serpentor]

In a perfect world. But the anal-retentive tools on AGS must parse and deconstruct every, single, ****ing word of every, single, ****ing post of every, single, ****ing thread.

It's because college football is the only sport in the world where haters feel they have the right to dump on your team if they don't win by enough points. Nobody cares when the New England Patriots win a game by one point. Nobody cares when the Golden State Warriors win a game by one point. Nobody cares when the Cleveland Indians win a game by one point. But for some reason, if you don't cover the point spread in college football, oh no! Your team is in trouble!!!!!!!!!!!

[BreakEvenPeach]

Agree to disagree sir. I know a lot of Bison fans that would say we are a elite FCS team. Take the "elite" word out of it. We are a perrinial top 10 team and leave it at that. JMU is elite because of two seasons? We were playing in the ship and y'all weren't even a playoff team.


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If i can just throw my two cents in here, i think where the confusion comes in is that theres a big difference between eilite TEAMS and elite PROGRAMS. I would not consider SHSU an elite team in 2017 but make no mistake that is an elite FCS program.

[ksu_owls]

If i can just throw my two cents in here, i think where the confusion comes in is that theres a big difference between eilite TEAMS and elite PROGRAMS. I would not consider SHSU an elite team in 2017 but make no mistake that is an elite FCS program.

BreakEvenPeach I love that you must be from georgia and your peach looks like a phat a$$. I've got to get off of here I'm losing it man!

[BisonTru]

SHSU
NDSU
JMU
KSU
JSU
SHSU D
NDSU D
JMU D
KSU D
JSU D





kickoffs

101
83
82
77
69
69
37
32
41
43
kickoffs




punts

55
45
56
47
63
86
76
86
59
82
punts




interceptions
14
7
11
3
12
15
17
24
23
10
interceptions



fumbles lost
7
7
5
8
7
7
10
8
11
8
fumbles lost



missed FG
5
4
4
3
5
3
1
3
1
5
missed FG



turnover on downs
13
4
5
8
1
18
14
10
11
9
turnover on downs



games played
12
12
12
13
12
12
12
12
13
12
games played



total possessions
183
138
151
133
145
186
143
151
133
145
total possessions



total points
559
467
421
394
346
355
138
106
183
180
total points



points per possession
3.1
3.4
2.8
3.0
2.4
1.9
1.0
0.7
1.4
1.2
points per possession



possessions per game
15.3
11.5
12.6
10.2
12.1
15.5
11.9
12.6
10.2
12.1
possessions per game






Updated the excel spreadsheet, added a field for games played, then subtracted the amount of games played from the total possessions as a way to account for the 1st and 2nd half kickoff not being a true possession.

Nice work bud. I like the points per possession stat line.

[katss07]

If i can just throw my two cents in here, i think where the confusion comes in is that theres a big difference between eilite TEAMS and elite PROGRAMS. I would not consider SHSU an elite team in 2017 but make no mistake that is an elite FCS program.
If you are in the second round of the playoffs, that year you are an elite team. 16 out of 130 schools.

[Daytripper]

SHSU
NDSU
JMU
KSU
JSU
SHSU D
NDSU D
JMU D
KSU D
JSU D





kickoffs

101
83
82
77
69
69
37
32
41
43
kickoffs




punts

55
45
56
47
63
86
76
86
59
82
punts




interceptions
14
7
11
3
12
15
17
24
23
10
interceptions



fumbles lost
7
7
5
8
7
7
10
8
11
8
fumbles lost



missed FG
5
4
4
3
5
3
1
3
1
5
missed FG



turnover on downs
13
4
5
8
1
18
14
10
11
9
turnover on downs



games played
12
12
12
13
12
12
12
12
13
12
games played



total possessions
183
138
151
133
145
186
143
151
133
145
total possessions



total points
559
467
421
394
346
355
138
106
183
180
total points



points per possession
3.1
3.4
2.8
3.0
2.4
1.9
1.0
0.7
1.4
1.2
points per possession



possessions per game
15.3
11.5
12.6
10.2
12.1
15.5
11.9
12.6
10.2
12.1
possessions per game






Updated the excel spreadsheet, added a field for games played, then subtracted the amount of games played from the total possessions as a way to account for the 1st and 2nd half kickoff not being a true possession.

Isn't the offensive and defensive possessions per game a redundant stat? Teams alternate possession. I guess special team turnovers would be the only thing that would prevent this stat from being the same. Of course if the same team had the first and last possession without any turnovers, they would win the possession battle by one.

[BreakEvenPeach]

If you are in the second round of the playoffs, that year you are an elite team. 16 out of 130 schools.

That is one way of looking at it, and i cant really argue. Good point. Thats a hell of a lot of teams.

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BreakEvenPeach I love that you must be from georgia and your peach looks like a phat a$$. I've got to get off of here I'm losing it man!

Not from georgia, but love that a$$ all the same

[BNATION]

That is one way of looking at it, and i cant really argue. Good point. Thats a hell of a lot of teams.

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Not from georgia, but love that a$$ all the same You sir are the finest poster on AGS, i love that ass too thats why I married a college volleyball player. Eat Em Up!

[BreakEvenPeach]

You sir are the finest poster on AGS, i love that ass too thats why I married a college volleyball player. Eat Em Up!

Smart man! Hope to see the Kats come to fargo for the semis eventho i just moved to houston last week hahaha

[Serpentor]

Smart man! Hope to see the Kats come to fargo for the semis eventho i just moved to houston last week hahaha

Good moving choice. Next year is when Rollerball takes place and you know Houston has the best team in the world!


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[Terry2889]

Don't you know that most triple option offense lines are small and quick? That is what works best for the type of blocking they have to do.

Doc

Simple minds require simple answers : )

[Outsider1]

Simple minds require simple answers : )

Seems to me that if any team has a successful OL it is successful regardless of size. Kennesaw seems to have a successful OL.

[BNATION]

Simple minds require simple answers : )

If you weren't so simple you'd see that even among TO teams they are extremely small up front.


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[TennBison]

Holy Crap! I just looked at the starting O line depth chart... This is the smallest Div I line ive ever seen. My mind is now blown, I cant imagine how they blocked JSU Defensive front. Attention SHSU D, turn everything and i mean everything inside, what a mismatch.....
Usually the Triple O offensive lines do not really need to be all that big. You want them to have some speed, and they usually rely on the blockers just getting in the way or causing a moment of interruption than actually pushing guys around.

[TennBison]

Agree to disagree sir. I know a lot of Bison fans that would say we are a elite FCS team. Take the "elite" word out of it. We are a perrinial top 10 team and leave it at that. JMU is elite because of two seasons? We were playing in the ship and y'all weren't even a playoff team.


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I hate to disagree, or at least offer a view from the other side. I am trying to be a good citizen and not a smart ass here. While your record is very (very) good overall, most people see what seems to happen to SHSU in the playoffs as the problem with calling them elite. The offense goes through the whole year and even some of the playoff games with huge numbers. But then that one game always happens, the one where the wheels seem to fall off the high powered machine that SHSU fans love so much. It has actually happened every year I do believe since 2011. 2011, 2012, 2014 against NDSU (two championship games and a semi), 2015 vs JSU, and 2016 vs JMU, SHSU held to ungodly low scoring totals considering they were at or near the top of the scoring leaders. 2013 is the only year that their playoff loss was when they scored over 25 and they lost a close one by a point (29-30 to SELA I believe). If most of those losses by SHSU had scores that were consistent with the other games they played in those years the perception would probably be different. Hard to envision a team as elite when they go from 45-50 points a game (average) in all the wins to 7-10 points in the playoff losses.

[Singcntry]

I hate to disagree, or at least offer a view from the other side. I am trying to be a good citizen and not a smart ass here. While your record is very (very) good overall, most people see what seems to happen to SHSU in the playoffs as the problem with calling them elite. The offense goes through the whole year and even some of the playoff games with huge numbers. But then that one game always happens, the one where the wheels seem to fall off the high powered machine that SHSU fans love so much. It has actually happened every year I do believe since 2011. 2011, 2012, 2014 against NDSU (two championship games and a semi), 2015 vs JSU, and 2016 vs JMU, SHSU held to ungodly low scoring totals considering they were at or near the top of the scoring leaders. 2013 is the only year that their playoff loss was when they scored over 25 and they lost a close one by a point (29-30 to SELA I believe). If most of those losses by SHSU had scores that were consistent with the other games they played in those years the perception would probably be different. Hard to envision a team as elite when they go from 45-50 points a game (average) in all the wins to 7-10 points in the playoff losses.

That's kinda where i was going with my question. I just wasn't sure how to put it into words eloquently. I didn't mean to disparage SHSU, but you gotta admit those numbers are telling.

[Katfan]

I hate to disagree, or at least offer a view from the other side. I am trying to be a good citizen and not a smart ass here. While your record is very (very) good overall, most people see what seems to happen to SHSU in the playoffs as the problem with calling them elite. The offense goes through the whole year and even some of the playoff games with huge numbers. But then that one game always happens, the one where the wheels seem to fall off the high powered machine that SHSU fans love so much. It has actually happened every year I do believe since 2011. 2011, 2012, 2014 against NDSU (two championship games and a semi), 2015 vs JSU, and 2016 vs JMU, SHSU held to ungodly low scoring totals considering they were at or near the top of the scoring leaders. 2013 is the only year that their playoff loss was when they scored over 25 and they lost a close one by a point (29-30 to SELA I believe). If most of those losses by SHSU had scores that were consistent with the other games they played in those years the perception would probably be different. Hard to envision a team as elite when they go from 45-50 points a game (average) in all the wins to 7-10 points in the playoff losses.
That’s fair, can we move forward and discuss the game at hand?

[Singcntry]

Seems to me that if any team has a successful OL it is successful regardless of size. Kennesaw seems to have a successful OL.

I would say KSUs line is successful BECAUSE of its size. Their size and speed allows them to move quicker. With the TO offense, geting in a defenders way can spring a back as easily as moving them aside. However, I think SHSU will be surprised at just how good they are.

[Sammy94]

I would say KSUs line is successful BECAUSE of its size. Their size and speed allows them to move quicker. With the TO offense, geting in a defenders way can spring a back as easily as moving them aside. However, I think SHSU will be surprised at just how good they are.

I don't think any team is a surprise at this point in the season, plenty of film to look at.

[Outsider1]

I would say KSUs line is successful BECAUSE of its size. Their size and speed allows them to move quicker. With the TO offense, geting in a defenders way can spring a back as easily as moving them aside. However, I think SHSU will be surprised at just how good they are.

I would agree and would think that it will be up to SHSU's defense to figure out what to do about it. I have picked KSU at this point because the match-up will be very close, just feel KSU seems to be the better balanced team. I am rooting for SHSU to pull it off though and don't feel it would be an upset if SHSU wins. I am just asking them to be very careful because history has a way of repeating itself if not fixed.

[Outsider1]

I am learning you CAN be successful with different sizes and schemes. It just takes very dedicated and specific effort with each path chosen and, at times, will take time to get where you want to be...

[BNATION]

I am learning you CAN be successful with different sizes and schemes. It just takes very dedicated and specific effort with each path chosen and, at times, will take time to get where you want to be... No doubt i think Kennesaw has proved as much. Hope these "little guys" don't make us look silly Saturday.

[Singcntry]

I don't think any team is a surprise at this point in the season, plenty of film to look at.

Didn't mean that. Film is just that...film. We've had film on ya'll too. I really think this game comes down to the defenses. KSU plays against non TO teams a lot more than SHSU plays TO teams. As everyone can see SHSU gives up a lot of points, but is that because the defense is weak or is it because the defense is tired? I think its a little of both.

[BNATION]

Didn't mean that. Film is just that...film. We've had film on ya'll too. I really think this game comes down to the defenses. KSU plays against non TO teams a lot more than SHSU plays TO teams. As everyone can see SHSU gives up a lot of points, but is that because the defense is weak or is it because the defense is tired? I think its a little of both. I also think its not apples to oranges, the SLC is much like the Big 12 of FCS, are the offenses good or the defenses tired, or bad. Its not a secret why our second half defense is literally 4 times worse than the 1st half. 1 they are tired from the extra possessions, and two we leave our game plan most of the time and try and drain clock and play prevent D. Its embarrassing.

[Outsider1]

No doubt i think Kennesaw has proved as much. Hope these "little guys" don't make us look silly Saturday.

Silly is a little overkill for emphasis. I don't think they will do that I am just hoping your guys are running some extra laps in preparation.

[Nickels]

TO wont be a problem for this D. Many other schemes are an issue, but the TO isnt one of them.

[Singcntry]

TO wont be a problem for this D. Many other schemes are an issue, but the TO isnt one of them.

That's what 12 other teams have said this year also...you can see how that has worked out for them.

On the flip side ...11 other teams have fell to SHSUs offense. So ya don't really know till they play the game!

[ksu_owls]

TO wont be a problem for this D. Many other schemes are an issue, but the TO isnt one of them.

What is your definition of "won't be a problem"? Less than 200 yards rushing? less than 28 points? or just winning? Your defense in most games can give up tons of yards/points because the kats will score their fair share. I just am wondering what the judge of "won't be a problem" is and how you see your defense helping you win this game as opposed to video game offensive stats, which by the way I really am impressed with your offense!

[Sammy94]

What is your definition of "won't be a problem"? Less than 200 yards rushing? less than 28 points? or just winning? Your defense in most games can give up tons of yards/points because the kats will score their fair share. I just am wondering what the judge of "won't be a problem" is and how you see your defense helping you win this game as opposed to video game offensive stats, which by the way I really am impressed with your offense!

Just winning? Winning is all that matters. KSU will probably rush for 300+ and score more than 28 points. As long as the Kats score one more that is all that matters. I just hope we jump out in front like we always do and then watch the TO run out the clock to end it before the Owls can play catch up.

[Singcntry]

Just winning? Winning is all that matters. KSU will probably rush for 300+ and score more than 28 points. As long as the Kats score one more that is all that matters. I just hope we jump out in front like we always do and then watch the TO run out the clock to end it before the Owls can play catch up.

We cannot pass.xnodx

[caribbeanhen]

Just winning? Winning is all that matters. KSU will probably rush for 300+ and score more than 28 points. As long as the Kats score one more that is all that matters. I just hope we jump out in front like we always do and then watch the TO run out the clock to end it before the Owls can play catch up.

right, if Sammy can get a few stops early and make the usual quick strike TD's, you have to feel good about getting a lead on the Option team.... somehow though, I think Sammy finds a way to keep Kennesaw in it until the end

interesting match up

[Sammy94]

right, if Sammy can get a few stops early and make the usual quick strike TD's, you have to feel good about getting a lead on the Option team.... somehow though, I think Sammy finds a way to keep Kennesaw in it until the end

interesting match up


Somehow??? Sammy always lets teams back in. It would be quite boring if the game stayed 42-6 after halftime. :D

[Sammy94]

We cannot pass.xnodx

Not saying you can't, just haven't. Did I see that right 9 passing yards for the whole game vs Liberty? Went over 200 once in the only loss of the year. If history shows us I hope the Owls do pass.

[JSUSoutherner]

We cannot pass.xnodx
Lying through your damn teeth.

[Singcntry]

Lying through your damn teeth.

I thought the head shake was an indicator of my Sarcasm!

Yes Sammy94, that was 9 net passing yards. Look deeper though, our yds per catch are better than SHSU.

[JSUSoutherner]

I thought the head shake was an indicator of my Sarcasm!

Yes Sammy94, that was 9 net passing yards. Look deeper though, our yds per catch are better than SHSU.
It was, but it was still worth calling out.

[BNATION]

It was, but it was still worth calling out. Bro yall have lost 4 out of 6 home playoff openers. Please...

[Sammy94]

I thought the head shake was an indicator of my Sarcasm!

Yes Sammy94, that was 9 net passing yards. Look deeper though, our yds per catch are better than SHSU.


When you have had 20 attempts all year you can see why. We will have 20 attempts in the first half.

[Singcntry]

When you have had 20 attempts all year you can see why. We will have 20 attempts in the first half.

No doubt! I think its going to be a great game. I cannot wait to see how it turns out. I hope that neither team changes what they do, put it out there and see if the other team can stop it!

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26700&stc=1

[katss07]

No doubt! I think its going to be a great game. I cannot wait to see how it turns out. I hope that neither team changes what they do, put it out there and see if the other team can stop it!

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26700&stc=1
Sir, that looks to me like a house cat. An owl could not pick up a REAL Bearkat. Nice try though...

[Professor Chaos]

Sir, that looks to me like a house cat. An owl could not pick up a REAL Bearkat. Nice try though...
There's such a thing as a real bearkat???

Just when I think I have this silly world figured out...

[katss07]

There's such a thing as a real bearkat???

Just when I think I have this silly world figured out...
Yes. It’s basically a large, orange lion type cat. The difference is, Bearkats can stand on its hind legs, unlike a lion...of course there is no such thing as a Bearkat!!!! But if there was, it would definitely eat owls. Sammy the Bearkat is the closest thing we have to a real one, and he is ****ing intimidating. I’ve seen kids run away crying after taking a pic with him.

[BNATION]

There's such a thing as a real bearkat???

Just when I think I have this silly world figured out...

There really is bearkats.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binturong


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[Professor Chaos]

Yes. It’s basically a large, orange lion type cat. The difference is, Bearkats can stand on its hind legs, unlike a lion...of course there is no such thing as a Bearkat!!!! But if there was, it would definitely eat owls. Sammy the Bearkat is the closest thing we have to a real one, and he is ****ing intimidating. I’ve seen kids run away crying after taking a pic with him.
I see.... that does sounds intimidating but nothing is intimidating as UND's mascot Mike Hawk. No one like to take pictures with Mike Hawk... especially little kids.





Disclaimer: I'm joking... don't report me to child protective services please.


There really is bearkats.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binturong


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That's a bearcat not a bearkat. That's like saying there's really such a thing as a Bizon. :p

[cx500d]

Sir, that looks to me like a house cat. An owl could not pick up a REAL Bearkat. Nice try though...

Ha, thats funny. What's next an owl carrying off a unicorn?

[BNATION]

I see.... that does sounds intimidating but nothing is intimidating as UND's mascot Mike Hawk. No one like to take pictures with Mike Hawk... especially little kids.





Disclaimer: I'm joking... don't report me to child protective services please.


That's a bearcat not a bearkat. That's like saying there's really such a thing as a Bizon. :p

Hahahaha


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[katss07]

Whoever runs this “owl nest” twitter account is the definition of classless. Hope the Kats fans return the favor this weekend when we “boat race” (whatever that means) them Saturday night. I mean, come on act like you are supposed to be here. And trying to start SHSUHateWeek? Really?? Ol’ MK shut that bitch down! I hope all 2,000 of their “go fund me” money gets lost. Bring down 300 people to witness your schools first ever playoff L. Ticket sales guy at Bowers says a bunch have been sold, and its only Thursday. Also, should be cold. KSU better be ready, this will be tough for them. KC knows the option, Bowers will be rockin.

I’ll have plenty to say to the Kennesaw fans as they exit the stadium after their loss.

[Singcntry]

That thing looks like a cross between a drunk Sloth and a beaver!

[TennBison]

So SHSU has a ton of passing yards. What is the breakdown on how far down field most of Briscos passes go? Does he do a good combination of short, medium, long pass attempts? Or does the team get most of their yardage on 10-15 yard attempts and the receivers get good yardage after the catch?

[Singcntry]

What exactly did they do? Looking at their Twitter feed, it doesn't look out of line. No personal attacks, no name calling.

Am I missing something?

[Singcntry]

So SHSU has a ton of passing yards. What is the breakdown on how far down field most of Briscos passes go? Does he do a good combination of short, medium, long pass attempts? Or does the team get most of their yardage on 10-15 yard attempts and the receivers get good yardage after the catch?

The stats say they avg a little over 15ypc.

[PantherRob82]

What exactly did they do? Looking at their Twitter feed, it doesn't look out of line. No personal attacks, no name calling.

Am I missing something?
SHSU fans’ sensitivity. They booed USD fans last week for cheering for their team. Why they would try to “block” opposing fans tailgating....

[katss07]

What exactly did they do? Looking at their Twitter feed, it doesn't look out of line. No personal attacks, no name calling.

Am I missing something?
Owl howl dot com maybe? Their twitter page. My bad..

[katss07]

SHSU fans’ sensitivity. They booed USD fans last week for cheering for their team. Why they would try to “block” opposing fans tailgating....

No one is blocking anyone. Kennesaw State fans can tailgate where they please. Kat fans are always welcoming to opposition fans. I hear they are bringing 150 or so people. They can enjoy there Saturday where they want too.

[BNATION]

Who cares about twitter it's all in good fun. No different that Texas A&M and BTHO whoever week. I like it. Bring some fans be ready to drink some beer and watch a Bearkats Victory!


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[katss07]

So SHSU has a ton of passing yards. What is the breakdown on how far down field most of Briscos passes go? Does he do a good combination of short, medium, long pass attempts? Or does the team get most of their yardage on 10-15 yard attempts and the receivers get good yardage after the catch?
Short passes that turn into big gains is common. Our WRs are fast and athletic. If the D is playing back, they will burn you. Big plays happen often. Our guys should be able to burn KSU’s defense. The Bearkats defense will decide this game. I think Hall, Stewart are up for this test.

[katss07]

Who cares about twitter it's all in good fun. No different that Texas A&M and BTHO whoever week. I like it. Bring some fans be ready to drink some beer and watch a Bearkats Victory!


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True, shouldn’t be worried. Hope the owls that do make the trip enjoy Huntsville!

[PantherRob82]

No one is blocking anyone. Kennesaw State fans can tailgate where they please. Kat fans are always welcoming to opposition fans. I hear they are bringing 150 or so people. They can enjoy there Saturday where they want too.
I’m sure you won’t have enough fans to block anyone, but your fan suggested it and multiple Kat fans said your fans started booing when USD fans were cheering. I was at our game in South Dakota on Saturday so I took their word for it.

[BNATION]

I’m sure you won’t have enough fans to block anyone, but your fan suggested it and multiple Kat fans said your fans started booing when USD fans were cheering. I was at our game in South Dakota on Saturday so I took their word for it.

We will have a pretty good crowd Panther Roberto, and I've never seen any opposing teams have a bad time at our tailgate.


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[katss07]

I’m sure you won’t have enough fans to block anyone, but your fan suggested it and multiple Kat fans said your fans started booing when USD fans were cheering. I was at our game in South Dakota on Saturday so I took their word for it.
We will have a good crowd. Yeah, we all booed the USD fans for whatever reason.

Snowing in Huntsvegas right now. Should stick around for a few more hours. Should be a cold game.

[BNATION]

Yea we have about 5" of snow on the ground here at my place in Bryan.


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[Bisonoline]

We will have a good crowd. Yeah, we all booed the USD fans for whatever reason.

Snowing in Huntsvegas right now. Should stick around for a few more hours. Should be a cold game.

Because your fans havent figured out when to cheer. If your fans booed when they were cheering more than likely your team was on offense. LOL
Nice work.

[BNATION]

Because your fans havent figured out when to cheer. If your fans booed when they were cheering more than likely your team was on offense. LOL
Nice work.

Your going to lose Saturday at 11 am. MysticMe has foreseen it. This I foresee because of your Douchebaggery. Thus it is so.


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[Bisonoline]

Your going to lose Saturday at 11 am. MysticMe has foreseen it. This I foresee because of your Douchebaggery. Thus it is so.


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[PantherRob82]

We will have a pretty good crowd Panther Roberto, and I've never seen any opposing teams have a bad time at our tailgate.


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"Pretty good". I have never heard of any stories of opposing fans having a bad time in Huntsville, just people wanting to try and ruin the tailgate plans of fans traveling all the way from Georgia. Hell, I'm glad that is the minority and not the way your fans feel. I hope for a good crowd and a good game.

[BNATION]

"Pretty good". I have never heard of any stories of opposing fans having a bad time in Huntsville, just people wanting to try and ruin the tailgate plans of fans traveling all the way from Georgia. Hell, I'm glad that is the minority and not the way your fans feel. I hope for a good crowd and a good game.

Well the party starts tonight for me. Grilling and drinking while rooting for Weber to pull off the upset purely because Rootinforthedukes and dirty dukes are always busting SHSU's balls. Teach them some humility lord....


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[PantherRob82]

Well the party starts tonight for me. Grilling and drinking while rooting for Weber to pull off the upset purely because Rootinforthedukes and dirty dukes are always busting SHSU's balls. Teach them some humility lord....


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Isn’t everyone always busting your balls? xlolx

[BNATION]

Isn’t everyone always busting your balls? xlolx

They do but only two teams really have beat us thus have stat to back it up. ;)


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[Daytripper]

I’m sure you won’t have enough fans to block anyone, but your fan suggested it and multiple Kat fans said your fans started booing when USD fans were cheering. I was at our game in South Dakota on Saturday so I took their word for it.

Kat fans were not booing the USD fans. They were booing the refs. After another horrible PI call on the Sam defense, fans booed the officials. Of course, it was a positive play for USD, so they were cheering the PI call. Sam fans never booed USD fans cheering a legitimate good play or score....

[PantherRob82]

Kat fans were not booing the USD fans. They were booing the refs. After another horrible PI call on the Sam defense, fans booed the officials. Of course, it was a positive play for USD, so they were cheering the PI call. Sam fans never booed USD fans cheering a legitimate good play or score....

That was the report from your fans. They said that they were either chanting USD or let’s go yotes and your fans response was to boo them. I asked for clarification on multiple threats because I thought it was weird. Once again, I am only going off things that your friends are saying, that making stuff up or my own observations.

[Gangtackle11]

This is a very interesting matchup. Fast paced quick scoring offense against the time of possession dominating option. I have liked what I’ve seen from KSU in their games against Monmouth & Jax St. This one may very well go down to the last possession. An entertaining matchup. GL to both teams.

[katstrapper]

You let the #6 team in the Valley almost beat you on your own turf and let them back into the game. It is not "anti-Bearkat sentiment", it is just the truth.

Oh but it had nothing to do with the #1 and #2 offenses in the country playing each other. So Sam Houston beats South Dakota and its referred to as the "#6 team in The Valley", but if Sam Houston had lost that game it would have been " The Valley dominated the Softland and SHSU was fake". xthumbsupx

You people are ridiculous.xlolx

[katstrapper]

I’m sure you won’t have enough fans to block anyone, but your fan suggested it and multiple Kat fans said your fans started booing when USD fans were cheering. I was at our game in South Dakota on Saturday so I took their word for it.

Nobody was booing S Dakota fans and whoever is saying that is freaking crazy. I was at the game and as Daytripper stated, the fans were booing the refs because of the crappy officiating, especially the NO CALL for Offensive Pass Interference on S. Dakota's last TD. Had nothing to do with S Dakota fans cheering. That's the dumbest thing I think I have seen on here.xlolx

[Daytripper]

Oh but it had nothing to do with the #1 and #2 offenses in the country playing each other. So Sam Houston beats South Dakota and its referred to as the "#6 team in The Valley", but if Sam Houston had lost that game it would have been " The Valley dominated the Softland and SHSU was fake". xthumbsupx

You people are ridiculous.xlolx

They will never see their own logical inconsistencies. Just give up.