South Dakota @ Sam Houston State (2nd Round)

[BearKatProud]

Officials literally playing DB for USD.

[cx500d]

Officials literally playing DB for USD.

gee, when the qb throws right at him.....

[X-Factor]

Officials literally playing DB for USD.

Jesus. What would you suggest a ref do in that scenario?

[Bison56]

Officials literally playing DB for USD.

Congrats you are leading for dumbest post for the day.

[BearKatProud]

Congrats you are leading for dumbest post for the day.

Pro tip: When 3 bisin fans are whining over one post, you're doing something right.

[cx500d]

Pro tip: When 3 bisin fans are whining over one post, you're doing something right.


Orrrrrr, it was literally the dumbest post of the day

[Nickels]

Good drive for the yotes.

[Bison56]

Pro tip: When 3 bisin fans are whining over one post, you're doing something right.

Pro tip: Sometimes when you cry harder it helps.

[Serpentor]

Oh what a day! What a lovely day!

[BearKatProud]

Pro tip: Sometimes when you cry harder it helps.

Straight from the experts.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

This is sweet to see! Complete domination!!

[cx500d]

468 yds offense in one half....USD D is bad. Looks like you aren't going to get a rematch with JSU though

[Kemo]

Honestly just saw the score. Wow.

I'm glad if someone had to embarrass the MVFC, it's the Coyotes.

[Howlingyote]

Well, 5 starters out on defense really hurts

[Kemo]

Well, 5 starters out on defense really hurts
Cramps?

[Howlingyote]

Not surprising comment from a bunny fan. You better do well in the playoffs because you will have no team next year

[cx500d]

Cramps?

Rape..Oh wait, thats just 3

[cx500d]

And JSU loses...

[Howlingyote]

No, that is owned by Stig and your ***** defense

[Serpentor]

Coyote QB is legit force, dude can bomb it down the field.

[BNATION]

Man SH sucks...


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[BNATION]

😎


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[cx500d]

Coyote QB is legit force, dude can bomb it down the field.


As we said, they are a one man team....and he doesn't play defense.

[caribbeanhen]

As we said, they are a one man team....and he doesn't play defense.

yep, which is why they are very lucky to be selected for this tourney

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow...this game is tightening up!!

[Lorne_Malvo]

Cramps?

Best post of the day!

[The Kicker]

someone go get the shsu team out of the locker room lol

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Did Keeler accept another job at half?

[MTfan4life]

What a terrible call! Aiding a runner???

[Drblankstare]

Aiding the runner? Never heard of it

[TheEagleSHSU]

No ****. Can’t play the zebras and the team at the same time. Refs need to get some ****ing glasses.

[centennial]

WTF happened my laptop turned out of battery. TO??

[cx500d]

questionable call...but USD's fault for spotting 40 points in the 1st half

[BNATION]

SH playing with a lead is ugly. Keep running your usual offense.


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[MTfan4life]

WTF happened my laptop turned out of battery. TO??

On downs. South Dakota touchdown taken away because of an "aiding the runner" penalty, when the team was seemingly just moving the pile. I guess lineman can't push or help running backs anymore when they're held up by the defense...

[Gangtackle11]

Wait....will we see 2 SLC teams as favorites in the second round after another SLC team gave a good showing? Maybe the SLC isn't that bad after all...

xcrazyx

[centennial]

SH playing with a lead is ugly. Keep running your usual offense.


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I don't think they are playing conservatively. Just getting outplayed and out coached right now.

[The Kicker]

What year was it and vs who that SHSU had a big 30+ point lead at half and almost blew it or did blow it in the second half? This looks a lot like that game

[alvin.kmiec]

It’s bad when SD gets a penalty and they don’t mark off the yards.


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[Hammersmith]

It’s bad when SD gets a penalty and they don’t mark off the yards.


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Are you talking about the aiding the runner penalty?

[BearKatProud]

What year was it and vs who that SHSU had a big 30+ point lead at half and almost blew it or did blow it in the second half? This looks a lot like that game

Every year?

[caribbeanhen]

Sammy gonna Sammy

[The Kicker]

That TD call back could be the difference of this game. USD is down but in full control right now.

* just as i post big play for SHSU

[centennial]

Scared to tackle Strevler? LOL

[Twentysix]

That box scorehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/cb1263823d8592128ceee72906571e3b.jpg

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[Lorne_Malvo]

SO I take it someone finally pissed Streveler off?

[grizband]

Sammy gonna Sammy^^ this

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[The Kicker]

last of the SLC teams both in danger of getting out of 2nd round

[alvin.kmiec]

Are you talking about the aiding the runner penalty?

No a failed start one.


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[BNATION]

Lol our offense has changed completely. We are running 1st and 2nd down. Then throwing third. We usually throw to run. We have done it all year.


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[Reign of Terrier]

So does the Southland know how to play defense?

Only reason I'm not calling out South Dakota is because we kind of know they can play defense based upon how they played in the regular season but this seems to be a trend

[The Kicker]

lol you can push down the CB but you can't push the RB

[Schism55]

Sammy uhoh

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wild and Whacky!!

[Drblankstare]

Holy lord this is crazy

[Serpentor]

That was absolute BS no call!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

There's going to be a riot in Huntsville. The call might not be great but you were up 41-14!! Boo your own team for sucking!!

[cx500d]

That was absolute BS no call!
What happened, I was watching New Hampshire take down UCA

[kdinva]

Has Sammy played their two's all 2nd half? Geeez

[SoDakSA]

That was absolute BS no call!

I would be more upset about the lack of any sense of defense in the second half by Sammy

[Drblankstare]

These defenses. Woof

[IBleedYellow]

Pucker factor getting high for SHSU fans?

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[Serpentor]

What happened, I was watching New Hampshire take down UCA

Blatant offensive pass interference. No call

[SoDakSA]

These defenses. Woof

I didn't realize they changed the rules to make it 7 vs 7 drills

[cx500d]

USD had their destiny in their hands....and folded

[kdinva]

Sammy reaches 50.......game though still way in the balance....

[centennial]

No defense game.

[Schism55]

SHSU tackling on every play looks like a 7 year old girl taking on Christian Okoye...barf

[dwtime]

You hardly ever see facemask called on an offensive player like that.

[kdinva]

S. Dakota throws a red-zone pick........yikes......7 minutes still to go...

[dwtime]

What was he doing on that throw?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

INT!! SHSU ball!!

[centennial]

SHSU needs to score. SD can score in a few plays.

[cx500d]

That was the knock on USD for the last couple years....Always so close, but did enough to screw it away in the end.

[MTfan4life]

Announcer error. It's not an FCS playoff record for yards yet, just an SHSU record. The record is 742 by La Monroe in 1992 against Alcorn St.

[SoDakSA]

SHSU is to USD as USD was to Nicholss State last week.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Announcer error. It's not an FCS playoff record for yards yet, just an SHSU record. The record is over 730.

At least Colgate/PL is off the hook for a SHSU record!

[centennial]

This is like watching 2 Chip Kelly's play each other.

[dwtime]

Man I wish we could get Tim Cramsey back...............

[Schism55]

Quite possible there will be 1500 yards of Offense in the game...wow xeyebrowx

[kdinva]

Sammy with the 39 yard FG........up 12 (54-42), 2:52 to play.

[dwtime]

SHSU OC Tim Cramsey played for Kelly at UNH.

[SoDakSA]

Sammy with the 39 yard FG........up 12 (54-42), 2:52 to play.

It says a lot that after that kick I wondered if it would be enough.

[Lorne_Malvo]

Sammy with the 39 yard FG........up 12 (54-42), 2:52 to play.

Enough time for 3 more touchdowns.

[centennial]

I think SHSU would mightily struggle with a full powered SD defense. 5 starters on defense is a lot.

[The Kicker]

Well SHSU sneaks past the last team into the playoffs. :D

[DCWIU11]

wow! what a way to end your season

[BNATION]

Game. Kennesaw at home. Here we come Fargo!


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[DCWIU11]

Game. Kennesaw at home. Here we come Fargo!


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Don't over look Kennesaw State!

[Twentysix]

Wasn't USD the last team in? Yikes doesn't bode well for shsu. Congrats on advancing though.

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[BearKatProud]

Yeah, take that doubters!

The Southland is 1-2 in the playoffs so far!

Conference Champ - upset at home
Conference 2nd place - barely survives a 5th place MVFC team.

That should shut everyone up!

(Of course I'm kidding. I'll show myself out.)

[SoDakSA]

So the defensive coordinators have to return this game check, right?

[Nickels]

Wasn't USD the last team in? Yikes doesn't bode well for shsu. Congrats on advancing though.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season

You must be new to the FCS.

[BNATION]

Blah blah blah. Say what you want. 4 quarter final appearances in 6 years. Suck it. See y'all in Fargo!


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[BNATION]

Don't over look Kennesaw State!

I hope we don't.


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[Terry2889]

Yeah, take that doubters!

The Southland is 1-2 in the playoffs so far!

Conference Champ - upset at home
Conference 2nd place - barely survives a 5th place MVFC team.

That should shut everyone up!

(Of course I'm kidding. I'll show myself out.)


Haha! Well played sir : )

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SHSU OC Tim Cramsey played for Kelly at UNH.

Tim hosted me on my recruiting visit!!!! He's awesome!

[cx500d]

At this stage of the playoffs, a Win is a Win. Next is a different week. Hopefully your follicly challenged QB doesn't get the score run up on him. Luckily, Kennesaw is more a ball control type offense so shouldn't put up 60+ points.

[BNATION]

At this stage of the playoffs, a Win is a Win. Next is a different week. Hopefully your follicly challenged QB doesn't get the score run up on him. Luckily, Kennesaw is more a ball control type offense so shouldn't put up 60+ points.

Hahaha follicle challenged is hilarious. Yea I agree. It's about advancing. Once we cut loose the offense again we took control again. We cannot play keep away offense. Our defense is scoring and scoring.


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[Schism55]

At this stage of the playoffs, a Win is a Win. Next is a different week. Hopefully your follicly challenged QB doesn't get the score run up on him. Luckily, Kennesaw is more a ball control type offense so shouldn't put up 60+ points.
Seriously, is dude in hiss early 40's?! xlolx

[cx500d]

Seriously, is dude in hiss early 40's?! xlolx


Even Farley's kids have more hair.

[BNATION]

Too drunk to type. See y'all next week. Go Weber I got money on you!


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[Sammy94]

Typical Kat win, jump out to a big lead and let the other team catch up, then do enough to win. Looking forward to another home game. Thanks Jax.

[cx500d]

Typical Kat win, jump out to a big lead and let the other team catch up, them do enough to win. Looking forward to another home game. Thanks Jax.


Hopefully you won't have to hand out tickets to the Trusties again to make it look like people want to see the game in person.

[MR. CHICKEN]

...FRIDAY NIGHT GAME......WHO'S IN IT.....AWK!

[Thumper 76]

Too drunk to type. See y'all next week. Go Weber I got money on you!


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Liar. That post was fine, and I want entertainment. Post dammit.


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[Daytripper]

Just got back from the game. May need to see a cardiologist. As I posted earlier this week and somebody else posted in this thread, this is what we do: Jump out to a big lead, let the opponent back in it with a lackluster 3rd quarter, and pull it out in the end. Sometimes I think we should consciously not run up the score in the first half and let the opponent stay in it...then we might stay focused for four quarters..

And those Big South officials were the absolute worst refs I have ever seen. If not for the gift third down and long conversions on three drives, this would've been a blowout. Oh, and PJ was held almost every play after the first two series. It was the only way they could control him and it was never called.

[cx500d]

Just got back from the game. May need to see a cardiologist. As I posted earlier this week and somebody else posted in this thread, this is what we do: Jump out to a big lead, let the opponent back in it with a lackluster 3rd quarter, and pull it out in the end. Sometimes I think we should consciously not run up the score in the first half and let the opponent stay in it...then we might stay focused for four quarters..

And those Big South officials were the absolute worst refs I have ever seen. If not for the gift third down and long conversions on three drives, this would've been a blowout. Oh, and PJ was held almost every play after the first two series. It was the only way they could control him and it was never called.
xbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingx

[Daytripper]

xbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingx

Not crying, troll....just calling like I see it.

[Bisonwinagn]

Just got back from the game. May need to see a cardiologist. As I posted earlier this week and somebody else posted in this thread, this is what we do: Jump out to a big lead, let the opponent back in it with a lackluster 3rd quarter, and pull it out in the end. Sometimes I think we should consciously not run up the score in the first half and let the opponent stay in it...then we might stay focused for four quarters..

And those Big South officials were the absolute worst refs I have ever seen. If not for the gift third down and long conversions on three drives, this would've been a blowout. Oh, and PJ was held almost every play after the first two series. It was the only way they could control him and it was never called.

And the USD TD being called back was the worst call ever made so yeah this game was too big for the refs.

[cx500d]

Not crying, troll....just calling like I see it.


Anytime someone blames an official for the outcome of the game, their blame is misplaced. You had 41 points at the half....The refs didn't cause USD to close the gap, your team did.

[Daytripper]

And the USD TD being called back was the worst call ever made so yeah this game was too big for the refs.

Oh, I agree. It was a ticky-tack call. Those refs froze in the spotlight.

[cx500d]

Oh, I agree. It was a ticky-tack call. Those refs froze in the spotlight.


Bottom line is ****ty refs are usually ****ty to both teams....

[Daytripper]

Bottom line is ****ty refs are usually ****ty to both teams....

Not one holding call on either offensive team. That is not possible in a college football game.

[cx500d]

Not one holding call on either offensive team. That is not possible in a college football game.


That's good. I think you could call holding on every play...I'd rather just see them play.

[Katfan]

Not one holding call on either offensive team. That is not possible in a college football game.
Not so we were called for Holding once. I feel for the big south. This crew was bad. Real bad.

[TheRevSFA]

Kennesaw State will beat Sam.

[LuckyKat]

pfbbtt

[Serpentor]

Kennesaw State will beat Sam.

Sure Rev, sure.

[katss07]

Huh, attendance was 4,400 something. Really? Home side was pretty full, and visiting side had a decent crowd. Looked more like 8,000 to me. Underreporting.

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Kennesaw State will beat Sam.

SFA will beat Sam

[cx500d]

Huh, attendance was 4,400 something. Really? Home side was pretty full, and visiting side had a decent crowd. Looked more like 8,000 to me. Underreporting.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcy8bvhewtU

[Serpentor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcy8bvhewtU

Potty mouth...

[cx500d]

Potty mouth...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kVZUvwRGHg

[katss07]

Well if a SLC fan says something and an MVFC fan says thats ****, it has to be.

[Daytripper]

Well if a SLC fan says something and an MVFC fan says thats ****, it has to be.

This is the gospel...

[Serpentor]

Let me close for the evening with: $&#@*# Jeff Sagarin!

[beerkat]

Who knows which SHSU team will show up. I could easily see the Kats getting a big lead early, letting off the gas and then by the 3rd quarter South Dakota is back in the game. Then it comes down to who can get it done in the 4th. First team to 50 wins, but the loser will probably score in the 40's as well.

Don't forget to tip your bartenders and waitresses ladies and gentlemen

[Thumper 76]

xbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingx
So, you need to talk with a lot (most) of NDSU fans and (all) of USeD fans then xlolx

Anytime someone blames an official for the outcome of the game, their blame is misplaced. You had 41 points at the half....The refs didn't cause USD to close the gap, your team did.

Preach. PRRREEEEEEAAAAACCCCCHHHHHHHHHH

A LOT OF YOU ARE MISSING A REALLY FUN GAME CALLED FOOTBALL WHILE YOURE BEHAVING LIKE GODDAMN BABYS CRYING ABOUT CALLS


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[th0m]

Don't forget to tip your bartenders and waitresses ladies and gentlemen

Good call!

every time i watch an SHSU game keeler looks so lost.

[cx500d]

Well if a SLC fan says something and an MVFC fan says thats ****, it has to be.

Right, so the official count of 4401, which is probably less than an average Huntsville High game, is wrong because you say so...You call it under-reporting. Maybe your regular season games were over-reported to make it seem like more people care then really do. I stand by my original statement

[Sammy94]

Kennesaw State will beat Sam.

so Kennesaw will be the first to win a playoff game at Sam? My guess is no.

[katstrapper]

Kennesaw State will beat Sam.

That's what they said about the Coyotes.

[Sammy94]

That's what they said about the Coyotes.

And the Mocs, and the Thunderbirds, and the Bobcats, and the Grizzlies, and the....

[cx500d]

And the Mocs, and the Thunderbirds, and the Bobcats, and the Grizzlies, and the....


and all teams starting with a "J"

[Sammy94]

and all teams starting with a "J"


Don’t remember a J team that came to Bowers in the playoffs?

[cx500d]

Don’t remember a J team that came to Bowers in the playoffs?


OK, so thats the key....as long as you are in the confines of your empty high school track stadium... got it.

[Sammy94]

OK, so thats the key....as long as you are in the confines of your empty high school track stadium... got it.

Point is Sam has never lost a playoff game at home no matter how many folks were there.

[cx500d]

Point is Sam has never lost a playoff game at home no matter how many folks were there.


OK, got it. We have never beaten you there either.

[Sammy94]

OK, got it. We have never beaten you there either.


But Pueblo has??? Go figure.

[TheRevSFA]

[QUOTE=katstrapper;2582662]That's what they said about the Coyotes.[/QUOTE

yeah but I didn’t. I picked sam to beat USD by 21.

this is a dangerous game for sam as people will underestimate KSU

[TheRevSFA]

so Kennesaw will be the first to win a playoff game at Sam? My guess is no.

Sixer of shiner on it?

[POD Knows]

[QUOTE=katstrapper;2582662]That's what they said about the Coyotes.[/QUOTE

yeah but I didn’t. I picked sam to beat USD by 21.

this is a dangerous game for sam as people will underestimate KSUI think this is a bad matchup for SHSU as well, if KSU can control the ball, keep "baldy" off the field, this could be an interesting game. KSU also appears to be able to play some D, we will see.

I have seen SHSU play three times this year, they are a terrible tackling team and that is not a good thing playing a team that runs the ball.

[katss07]

Sam can stop the run better than the pass though. Our weakness is the secondary IMO. If Kennesaw runs the ball, we will be okay. Their defense is not great, but it is better than USD’s. I think our offense can and will tear apart KSU. I’ll say this is another close one that the Kats win. Maybe 38-28

[ElCid]

[QUOTE=TheRevSFA;2582677]I think this is a bad matchup for SHSU as well, if KSU can control the ball, keep "baldy" off the field, this could be an interesting game. KSU also appears to be able to play some D, we will see.

I have seen SHSU play three times this year, they are a terrible tackling team and that is not a good thing playing a team that runs the ball.

I saw about 20 minutes of game time and it was absolutely the worst I have seen. They need a better DC.

[TheRevSFA]

Sam can stop the run better than the pass though. Our weakness is the secondary IMO. If Kennesaw runs the ball, we will be okay. Their defense is not great, but it is better than USD’s. I think our offense can and will tear apart KSU. I’ll say this is another close one that the Kats win. Maybe 38-28

Sam stopping the run is funny seeing as how sam gives up almost 200 yards on the ground per game

[katstrapper]

Sam stopping the run is funny seeing as how sam gives up almost 200 yards on the ground per game

SFA having a winning season is even more comical.

[TheRevSFA]

SFA having a winning season is even more comical.

No need to deflect and bring in SFA. That means you know I’m right about sam’s piece of **** defense. Plus the fact that keeler is probably jumping ship to UTEP makes this an easy to lose game.

Sam can score at will, not gonna matter when they play a team that can keep their offense off of the field most of the game...KSU is a team who can do that

[beerkat]

Sam stopping the run is funny seeing as how sam gives up almost 200 yards on the ground per game

well in that case lets just not play the game and give Kennesaw the victory, seeing as how rushing yards per game is the metric deciding who wins and loses

[cx500d]

Why doesn't some enterprising sammy fan start a sammy vs kennesaw thread and poll?

[Daytripper]

Why doesn't some enterprising sammy fan start a sammy vs kennesaw thread and poll?

You seem to be the most interested person in SHSU, considering you troll every single thread, so why do you do it?

[cx500d]

You seem to be the most interested person in SHSU, considering you troll every single thread, so why do you do it?

Interesting I'm a troll. I said early and often sammy was going to beat south dakota.

[Daytripper]

Interesting I'm a troll. I said early and often sammy was going to beat south dakota.

Trolling is not restricted to simply picking someone to lose... It involves attempting to bait those with vested interest in the thread/topic with irrelevant and provocative posts in order to purposefully piss them off....

[cx500d]

Trolling is not restricted to simply picking someone to lose... It involves attempting to bait those with vested interest in the thread/topic with irrelevant and provocative posts in order to purposefully piss them off....



It must be working then

[Daytripper]

It must be working then

Glad you don't deny it...

[caribbeanhen]

Trolling is not restricted to simply picking someone to lose... It involves attempting to bait those with vested interest in the thread/topic with irrelevant and provocative posts in order to purposefully piss them off....

why not just try to keep calm and carry on

[cx500d]

why not just try to keep calm and carry on


He's bitter because he's upset only 4400 people showed up for the game on a day that was nice and warm with perfect weather....and some of those were probably from south dakota.

[caribbeanhen]

He's bitter because he's upset only 4400 people showed up for the game on a day that was nice and warm with perfect weather....and some of those were probably from south dakota.

I see, S Dakota did have a section of fans, watching the replay, very entertaining game and it's a shame they don't get more people to see Sammy games, fun team to watch on offense with good skill players but apparently better things to do yesterday in Huntsville

[Daytripper]

why not just try to keep calm and carry on

What about my posts suggest I am not calm? I'm not using all caps or exclamation points.... You assume I can't point out trolling without being mad? You assume wrong.

[cx500d]

I see, S Dakota did have a section of fans, watching the replay, very entertaining game and it's a shame they don't get more people to see Sammy games, fun team to watch on offense with good skill players but apparently better things to do yesterday in Huntsville


It must have been visitation day at the Walls Unit....

[Serpentor]

It must have been visitation day at the Walls Unit....

How is your dad doing, by the way?

[caribbeanhen]

What about my posts suggest I am not calm? I'm not using all caps or exclamation points.... You assume I can't point out trolling without being mad? You assume wrong.

everything :D

[cx500d]

How is your dad doing, by the way?


Its easier for you to find out....just ask your dad how the head screw is treating him.

[Daytripper]

everything :D

Well, we all know what assuming things says about people.....

[Daytripper]

He's bitter because he's upset only 4400 people showed up for the game on a day that was nice and warm with perfect weather....and some of those were probably from south dakota.

See, there is an entire attendance thread dedicated to discussing just that. But you want to bring that topic here in order to bait. Hence, a troll.

[Sammy94]

Sixer of shiner on it?


Of course. I love free beer.

[cx500d]

See, there is an entire attendance thread dedicated to discussing just that. But you want to bring that topic here in order to bait. Hence, a troll.


It was started here on post 369.... Its only a troll if you don't like the truth.

[Daytripper]

It was started here on post 369.... Its only a troll if you don't like the truth.

Like the truth that you are a troll?

[Serpentor]

It was started here on post 369.... Its only a troll if you don't like the truth.

Look cx500d, I like you, but this is a weird hill for you to die on. You are kind of being a troll about this.

[cx500d]

Just put a fork in this dead thread and start a sammy-kennesaw thread already

[Daytripper]

Look cx500d, I like you, but this is a weird hill for you to die on. You are kind of being a troll about this.

I agree. I like cx500 also when he stays on-topic. He makes good points on many topics but can't help himself when it comes to SHSU....

[TheRevSFA]

well in that case lets just not play the game and give Kennesaw the victory, seeing as how rushing yards per game is the metric deciding who wins and loses

You guys were the ones saying you could stop the run.

Don’t let statistics get in your way

[cx500d]

As a carpetbagging Texan, I feel for you with your fan problems. This is Texas for crying out loud; football is supposed to be in your blood. You have a bunch of students that went to all their high school games in packed stadiums, but they're apathetic about watching a superior product with an exciting offense at a school they (or their daddies) send a good chunk of change for the privilege to attend. Its not like you are charging students $100/game for tickets. If this was Incarnate Ward, or Houston Baptist or some other perennial loser I get it. But you have a long tradition of winning games and being in the thick of the playoffs, yet your students won't attend games. Its sad quite frankly.

[katss07]

As a carpetbagging Texan, I feel for you with your fan problems. This is Texas for crying out loud; football is supposed to be in your blood. You have a bunch of students that went to all their high school games in packed stadiums, but they're apathetic about watching a superior product with an exciting offense at a school they (or their daddies) send a good chunk of change for the privilege to attend. Its not like you are charging students $100/game for tickets. If this was Incarnate Ward, or Houston Baptist or some other perennial loser I get it. But you have a long tradition of winning games and being in the thick of the playoffs, yet your students won't attend games. Its sad quite frankly.

It is embarrassing. We will have a bigger crowd next weekend, I am sure. But still, the student turnout will probably be poor. The people who were there yesterday were loud and proud. It was louder than I have heard Bowers get in a few years. But we need more people to show up. This is a top 8 team in the FCS, and we might only get 8k to our stadium for a quarterfinal game in primetime. Really sad, but I don’t expect more than 8-10k to be there. And no more than 500 students. Piss porr showing by students.

[beerkat]

You guys were the ones saying you could stop the run.

Don’t let statistics get in your way

I'm not a member of the "you guys" ,whoever they are, saying that we could stop the run. We slowed down the 2 best running offenses we played all year in Nicholls and Sela. We also didn't fall asleep on defense like we did in so many other games versus those 2. We don't have to stop anybody, just slow them down enough to let our offense do its thing.

[beerkat]

As a carpetbagging Texan, I feel for you with your fan problems. This is Texas for crying out loud; football is supposed to be in your blood. You have a bunch of students that went to all their high school games in packed stadiums, but they're apathetic about watching a superior product with an exciting offense at a school they (or their daddies) send a good chunk of change for the privilege to attend. Its not like you are charging students $100/game for tickets. If this was Incarnate Ward, or Houston Baptist or some other perennial loser I get it. But you have a long tradition of winning games and being in the thick of the playoffs, yet your students won't attend games. Its sad quite frankly.

We are way down the pecking order of football fans in Texas. NFL, FBS Football, and high school football all come before us. My hometown had 35k show up for the state title game last year and we aren't even the largest classification. On top of that we are a suitcase/commuter college so 75% of the students go back home on the weekends to mommy and daddy and their high school friends.

[Gil Dobie]

We are way down the pecking order of football fans in Texas. NFL, FBS Football, and high school football all come before us. My hometown had 35k show up for the state title game last year and we aren't even the largest classification. On top of that we are a suitcase/commuter college so 75% of the students go back home on the weekends to mommy and daddy and their high school friends.

That still leaves about 10 times more people to pull from than NDSU has to pull from. 27.86 million people in Texas, compared to .76 million in ND. Even the .86 million is more.

[cx500d]

That still leaves about 10 times more people to pull from than NDSU has to pull from. 27.86 million people in Texas, compared to .76 million in ND. Even the .86 million is more.


Its the admin...Apparently they don't attempt to do anything to drum up interest. There's a lot of stuff they could do...

[beerkat]

That still leaves about 10 times more people to pull from than NDSU has to pull from. 27.86 million people in Texas, compared to .76 million in ND. Even the .86 million is more.

where does NDSU rank among football teams in your state and region with regards to who the fans pull for? SHSU is behind....

Dallas Cowboys
Houston Texans
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
LSU
Baylor
however many other FBS programs there are in Texas
pretty much every 5a and 6a high school in the state, which is about 500

Huntsville is a small town and there has always been this weird rift between some of the locals and the university, where the locals don't want any growth of any kind. A great number of our alumni are not active at all with the university. They get their diploma and never come back to Huntsville again. And if they are active they don't have a ton of money to donate as we churn out a lot of people in education and law enforcement. Texas may have a high population but most of our support comes from the northern Houston suburbs. I would bet there were less than 200 people combined at the game Saturday that drove from Austin/San Antonio/Dallas/Ft. Worth. On top of all that our athletic department sucks as far as marketing goes and creating a good game day atmosphere. All in all our loyal football fanbase is about 4000-5000 tops, and that is all alumni. 20k student enrollment and I bet there weren't more than 400 at the game. So basically we rely on the bandwagon crowd to get a good attendance number. The bandwagon crowd did not show up yesterday, at all.

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Its the admin...Apparently they don't attempt to do anything to drum up interest. There's a lot of stuff they could do...

The loudest our stadium usually gets is when they give away free pizza during the game. It's pathetic.

[Daytripper]

That still leaves about 10 times more people to pull from than NDSU has to pull from. 27.86 million people in Texas, compared to .76 million in ND. Even the .86 million is more.

Apples and oranges, and you know it...

[cx500d]

Apples and oranges, and you know it...

and we hate orange!

[POD Knows]

where does NDSU rank among football teams in your state and region with regards to who the fans pull for? SHSU is behind....

Dallas Cowboys
Houston Texans
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
LSU
Baylor
however many other FBS programs there are in Texas
pretty much every 5a and 6a high school in the state, which is about 500

Huntsville is a small town and there has always been this weird rift between some of the locals and the university, where the locals don't want any growth of any kind. A great number of our alumni are not active at all with the university. They get their diploma and never come back to Huntsville again. And if they are active they don't have a ton of money to donate as we churn out a lot of people in education and law enforcement. Texas may have a high population but most of our support comes from the northern Houston suburbs. I would bet there were less than 200 people combined at the game Saturday that drove from Austin/San Antonio/Dallas/Ft. Worth. On top of all that our athletic department sucks as far as marketing goes and creating a good game day atmosphere. All in all our loyal football fanbase is about 4000-5000 tops, and that is all alumni. 20k student enrollment and I bet there weren't more than 400 at the game. So basically we rely on the bandwagon crowd to get a good attendance number. The bandwagon crowd did not show up yesterday, at all.

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The loudest our stadium usually gets is when they give away free pizza during the game. It's pathetic.NDSU would be #1 followed by the Eagles xcoffeex

[Daytripper]

NDSU would be #1 followed by the Eagles xcoffeex

Exactly. That's the whole point.

[cx500d]

where does NDSU rank among football teams in your state and region with regards to who the fans pull for? SHSU is behind....

Dallas Cowboys
Houston Texans
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
LSU
Baylor
however many other FBS programs there are in Texas
pretty much every 5a and 6a high school in the state, which is about 500

Huntsville is a small town and there has always been this weird rift between some of the locals and the university, where the locals don't want any growth of any kind. A great number of our alumni are not active at all with the university. They get their diploma and never come back to Huntsville again. And if they are active they don't have a ton of money to donate as we churn out a lot of people in education and law enforcement. Texas may have a high population but most of our support comes from the northern Houston suburbs. I would bet there were less than 200 people combined at the game Saturday that drove from Austin/San Antonio/Dallas/Ft. Worth. On top of all that our athletic department sucks as far as marketing goes and creating a good game day atmosphere. All in all our loyal football fanbase is about 4000-5000 tops, and that is all alumni. 20k student enrollment and I bet there weren't more than 400 at the game. So basically we rely on the bandwagon crowd to get a good attendance number. The bandwagon crowd did not show up yesterday, at all.

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The loudest our stadium usually gets is when they give away free pizza during the game. It's pathetic.

Where I work in DFW, there are 7 NDSU graduates (we had 8, but one suddenly passed away this summer), all engineers, one Montana State graduate also an engineer, and one Sam Houston graduate (non-engineer) that I know about, only because someone else told me. I'm sure there are likely others, but you would never know. The NDSU graduates all wear things from time to time from NDSU, or have NDSU neck lanyards we fix our badges to, as does the Montana State grad. The Sam Houston grad never wears anything from Sam Houston. He's aware of the rivalry between Sammy and NDSU, and he takes the crap I dish out to him, but he didn't go to the games in Frisco, and I know he doesn't go to any games in Huntsville. Its kind of sad, actually. Its pretty bad when I see more cars with NDSU license plate holders or stickers around DFW then I do Sam Houston. I might see a Sam Houston parent sticker on a car every once in a while, but nothing other then that.

[Katfan]

Where I work in DFW, there are 7 NDSU graduates (we had 8, but one suddenly passed away this summer), all engineers, one Montana State graduate also an engineer, and one Sam Houston graduate (non-engineer) that I know about, only because someone else told me. I'm sure there are likely others, but you would never know. The NDSU graduates all wear things from time to time from NDSU, or have NDSU neck lanyards we fix our badges to, as does the Montana State grad. The Sam Houston grad never wears anything from Sam Houston. He's aware of the rivalry between Sammy and NDSU, and he takes the crap I dish out to him, but he didn't go to the games in Frisco, and I know he doesn't go to any games in Huntsville. Its kind of sad, actually. Its pretty bad when I see more cars with NDSU license plate holders or stickers around DFW then I do Sam Houston. I might see a Sam Houston parent sticker on a car every once in a while, but nothing other then that.
Yeah it is but that’s what we deal with. I once thought winning would build our fan base but it really hasn’t. It’s really disappointing you’d see the same thing in Houston.

[TennBison]

Where I work in DFW, there are 7 NDSU graduates (we had 8, but one suddenly passed away this summer), all engineers, one Montana State graduate also an engineer, and one Sam Houston graduate (non-engineer) that I know about, only because someone else told me. I'm sure there are likely others, but you would never know. The NDSU graduates all wear things from time to time from NDSU, or have NDSU neck lanyards we fix our badges to, as does the Montana State grad. The Sam Houston grad never wears anything from Sam Houston. He's aware of the rivalry between Sammy and NDSU, and he takes the crap I dish out to him, but he didn't go to the games in Frisco, and I know he doesn't go to any games in Huntsville. Its kind of sad, actually. Its pretty bad when I see more cars with NDSU license plate holders or stickers around DFW then I do Sam Houston. I might see a Sam Houston parent sticker on a car every once in a while, but nothing other then that.
I have wondered why this seems to be the case in many towns. In Fargo there are huge numbers of people all over town who own NDSU gear. And on a percentage base, I would place the number of people showing support for NDSU right at the top with any other school no matter what level of sports they play. And it seems to me that it is usually the adults who seem to show it the most for NDSU. Don't get me wrong, kids (meaning highschool on down) do wear Bison gear, but the adults seem to be the ones who make up the driving force not just because they have the money in the family, but because they really get into what NDSU is doing. And it isn't only Fargo, but it is the whole state of ND and western parts of MN, small towns all over have people supporting NDSU. This is something that most other FCS level schools do not have going for them. The bigger schools dominate the conversations on a state wide level, and even people who went to those FCS level schools will still run and turn on a Alabama game vs watching JSU, or watch Ohio St vs their alma mater YSU. I question a few things about this. Is it a lack of respect for the institution that you received your education from? Or are these folks trying to fit in with the "in crowd". At NDSU there are a lot of fans who were born into it, parents were fans so son and daughter are fans. Or can it be that NDSU has managed to just be that good at marketing their teams and causing quite a loyal fan base that likes to be a part of it. Maybe it is a product of where most NDSU fans are from, midwest city and its population just looking out for the local college. Or can ND and surrounding areas possibly and simply just be full of a larger quantity of the best people around (this could be the case because when I lived on the east coast I was a jerk, now I am a swell guy). When I played at Tenn, and drove around the state, you would never guess that there were any other colleges anywhere in the state. And the funny part is, that across the country, the number of people who went to big FBS schools is like 20% and the other 80% went to any other college that is not in the FBS.

[BNATION]

Its the problem we face being in a State with multiple large FBS programs within driving distance as well as having pro sports. Our stupid ass students drive to College Station on Saturday to watch the hapless Aggies play instead of supporting their school.


I have wondered why this seems to be the case in many towns. In Fargo there are huge numbers of people all over town who own NDSU gear. And on a percentage base, I would place the number of people showing support for NDSU right at the top with any other school no matter what level of sports they play. And it seems to me that it is usually the adults who seem to show it the most for NDSU. Don't get me wrong, kids (meaning highschool on down) do wear Bison gear, but the adults seem to be the ones who make up the driving force not just because they have the money in the family, but because they really get into what NDSU is doing. And it isn't only Fargo, but it is the whole state of ND and western parts of MN, small towns all over have people supporting NDSU. This is something that most other FCS level schools do not have going for them. The bigger schools dominate the conversations on a state wide level, and even people who went to those FCS level schools will still run and turn on a Alabama game vs watching JSU, or watch Ohio St vs their alma mater YSU. I question a few things about this. Is it a lack of respect for the institution that you received your education from? Or are these folks trying to fit in with the "in crowd". At NDSU there are a lot of fans who were born into it, parents were fans so son and daughter are fans. Or can it be that NDSU has managed to just be that good at marketing their teams and causing quite a loyal fan base that likes to be a part of it. Maybe it is a product of where most NDSU fans are from, midwest city and its population just looking out for the local college. Or can ND and surrounding areas possibly and simply just be full of a larger quantity of the best people around (this could be the case because when I lived on the east coast I was a jerk, now I am a swell guy). When I played at Tenn, and drove around the state, you would never guess that there were any other colleges anywhere in the state. And the funny part is, that across the country, the number of people who went to big FBS schools is like 20% and the other 80% went to any other college that is not in the FBS.

[Yotes21]

Congrats to Sam Houston on the win and good luck next round.

[Daytripper]

Congrats to Sam Houston on the win and good luck next round.

Thanks. You guys had me in cardiac arrest most of the second half. That Streveler is a freak.

[Panther88]

where does NDSU rank among football teams in your state and region with regards to who the fans pull for? SHSU is behind....

Dallas Cowboys
Houston Texans
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
LSU
Baylor
Kansas St
uofh
Kansas
UT-SA
UTA
UNT-Denton
SMU
Rice
however many other FBS programs there are in Texas
Pee Wee football
pretty much every varsity, junior varsity, sophomore A/B/C, freshman A/B/C/D, jr hs A/B/C/D 5a and 6a/class A through class AAA high school in the state, which is about 500 to 1700 or so.

Huntsville is a small town and there has always been this weird rift between some of the locals and the university, where the locals don't want any growth of any kind. A great number of our alumni are not active at all with the university. They get their diploma and never come back to Huntsville again. And if they are active they don't have a ton of money to donate as we churn out a lot of people in education and law enforcement. Texas may have a high population but most of our support comes from the northern Houston suburbs. I would bet there were less than 200 people combined at the game Saturday that drove from Austin/San Antonio/Dallas/Ft. Worth. On top of all that our athletic department sucks as far as marketing goes and creating a good game day atmosphere. All in all our loyal football fanbase is about 4000-5000 tops, and that is all alumni. 20k student enrollment and I bet there weren't more than 400 at the game. So basically we rely on the bandwagon crowd to get a good attendance number. The bandwagon crowd did not show up yesterday, at all.

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The loudest our stadium usually gets is when they give away free pizza during the game. It's pathetic.

FIFY. You speak truth and unless you live here, one won't understand the dynamics of the tremendous amount of football @ all levels that is being offered. It's easy to be a big fish in such a small pond, like ND. It's very hard to co-exist in a ridiculously large pond w/ local flagship fish and then out-of-state flagship fish wanting to nibble @ your fanbase as well. I listed those out-of-state schools because they've recruited heavily in my home area and definitely in my family, unfortunately, and so a # of us follow them as well, and yes, that includes Kansas. SHSU isn't the only one feeling the burn of its alumni allegiance to other schools; we @ PVAMU and especially @ Tx Southern feel it.

[Gil Dobie]

FIFY. You speak truth and unless you live here, one won't understand the dynamics of the tremendous amount of football @ all levels that is being offered. It's easy to be a big fish in such a small pond, like ND. It's very hard to co-exist in a ridiculously large pond w/ local flagship fish and then out-of-state flagship fish wanting to nibble @ your fanbase as well. I listed those out-of-state schools because they've recruited heavily in my home area and definitely in my family, unfortunately, and so a # of us follow them as well, and yes, that includes Kansas. SHSU isn't the only one feeling the burn of its alumni, we @ PVAMU and especially @ Tx Southern feel it.

Should be able to find a few fans with 27.86 million people in Texas compared to .76 million in North Dakota. Do the SHSU alumni just disappear after they are done with school?

[Daytripper]

Should be able to find a few fans with 27.86 million people in Texas compared to .76 million in North Dakota. Do the SHSU alumni just disappear after they are done with school?

Those in the stands are a few alumni who support the program. Because of the lack of institutional athletics support during their time at the school, many students don't develop a bond with SHSU. If they are football fans, they graduate and become T-shirt Aggie and Longhorn fans.

[caribbeanhen]

Those in the stands are a few alumni who support the program. Because of the lack of institutional athletics support during their time at the school, many students don't develop a bond with SHSU. If they are football fans, they graduate and become T-shirt Aggie and Longhorn fans.

has KC been beating the let's go FBS drum? Sam Houston plays an exciting brand of football and wins, if this formula hasn't worked over the past 5 to 7 years it looks pretty bleak....

[Daytripper]

has KC been beating the let's go FBS drum? Sam Houston plays an exciting brand of football and wins, if this formula hasn't worked over the past 5 to 7 years it looks pretty bleak....

Agree. The fan base is made up disproportionately of older alums. And no, there hasn't been much FBS talk. How could we think about that when we can't fill up half the stadium for a home playoff game?

[caribbeanhen]

Agree. The fan base is made up disproportionately of older alums. And no, there hasn't been much FBS talk. How could we think about that when we can't fill up half the stadium for a home playoff game?

many similarities with Delaware fan base, students not going to games and declining attendance is a growing issue in college football.... for the most part, going to these games just does not appeal to the younger generation for many reasons

even in Fargo....

[Panther88]

Those in the stands are a few alumni who support the program. Because of the lack of institutional athletics support during their time at the school, many students don't develop a bond with SHSU. If they are football fans, they graduate and become T-shirt Aggie and Longhorn fans.

This is not an anomaly. It is a norm for this state. I feel some type of way when I see notre dame/miami/ou/fsu/oregon paraphernalia being worn by undergrads or god forbid grads who didn't attend those schools post-undergrad. I did The OhSt deal for gradsch but I DO NOT wear that stuff near or on gameday PVAMU.

[Panther88]

many similarities with Delaware fan base, students not going to games and declining attendance is a growing issue in college football.... for the most part, going to these games just does not appeal to the younger generation for many reasons

even in Fargo....

They'd rather stay in their rooms and embellish in WiFi [ and hopefully not "WiFy" xreadx ] and/or catch the game in UHDTV/4K+ rather than attend in person. smh

SHSU's problem is IDENTICAL to our problem: eldering fanbase + athletically apathetic undergrads (for the most part).

[Katfan]

They'd rather stay in their rooms and embellish in WiFi [ and hopefully not "WiFy" xreadx ] and/or catch the game in UHDTV/4K+ rather than attend in person. smh

SHSU's problem is IDENTICAL to our problem: eldering fanbase + athletically apathetic undergrads (for the most part).
Nail on the head!

[Sammy94]

Not so we were called for Holding once. I feel for the big south. This crew was bad. Real bad.

It's funny looking at all the pics from the game. So much holding not called, which I understand it could be called on every play but when it is so obvious like this. They made our Southland refs look like they know what they are doing.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26681&stc=1

[Daytripper]

It's funny looking at all the pics from the game. So much holding not called, which I understand it could be called on every play but when it is so obvious like this. They made our Southland refs look like they know what they are doing.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26681&stc=1

There was not one single offensive holding call on USD the entire day. Not one. But you are correct, this photo is a microcosm of the entire game.

[Sammy94]

There was not one single offensive holding call on USD the entire day. Not one. But you are correct, this photo is a microcosm of the entire game.


Coincidence that they were Big South refs and the outcome of that game could have meant a home game for Kennesaw St.?

[ST_Lawson]

They'd rather stay in their rooms and embellish in WiFi [ and hopefully not "WiFy" xreadx ] and/or catch the game in UHDTV/4K+ rather than attend in person. smh

SHSU's problem is IDENTICAL to our problem: eldering fanbase + athletically apathetic undergrads (for the most part).

Not an uncommon problem, I think. NDSU, JMU, Montana....they are the "outliers"...the ones who can still nearly fill up their stadiums on only a week's notice, often with students gone, it almost doesn't seem to matter. For us...we averaged lower home attendance than probably half the Pioneer...maybe some of the NEC...and would have had like 500 people if we'd hosted Weber State in the first round. WIU is good now...and nobody seems to care.

[uni88]

There is a little more to it for NDSU and similar schools. Even though they are in lower population states, the Dakotas, Montana and even Delaware have an advantage being flagship schools in those states. First, there are resources provided by the state. Flagship schools are typically going to be first in line and have greater access to state financial and other resources. Second, they have a better foundation to build a fanbase on. In Iowa, the majority of the people are Hawkeye (majority) or Cyclone fans whether they went to school there or not. If you grow up a Hawkeye or Cyclone fan but end up going to UNI the school has to convert you. I would imagine that in North Dakota, Montana, etc. that kids grow up Bison or Griz fans and no converting is necessary. I can still remember the Dome being more than 1/2 empty for our playoff game against Eastern Washington in December of 1985. It wasn't Thanksgiving weekend. Where were the students and other fans? They stayed home for the Heisman Trophy announcements to see if Iowa QB Chuck Long won. Our attendance doubled for the game vs. Georgia Southern the next week.

A school like UNI has a following among the converted alumni both in and out of state but when you're talking about non-alumni, the school's focus has to be on building fan support in the Waterloo area. People in Sioux Falls or Burlington are not going to become UNI fans unless they have a connection to the school. I would imagine it is similar in Texas. SHSU can't even bother thinking about the 27.86 million, they need to work on building support just in the Huntsville area which is probably 1/10 of .76 million.

[cx500d]

There is a little more to it for NDSU and similar schools. Even though they are in lower population states, the Dakotas, Montana and even Delaware have an advantage being flagship schools in those states. First, there are resources provided by the state. Flagship schools are typically going to be first in line and have greater access to state financial and other resources. Second, they have a better foundation to build a fanbase on. In Iowa, the majority of the people are Hawkeye (majority) or Cyclone fans whether they went to school there or not. If you grow up a Hawkeye or Cyclone fan but end up going to UNI the school has to convert you. I would imagine that in North Dakota, Montana, etc. that kids grow up Bison or Griz fans and no converting is necessary. I can still remember the Dome being more than 1/2 empty for our playoff game against Eastern Washington in December of 1985. It wasn't Thanksgiving weekend. Where were the students and other fans? They stayed home for the Heisman Trophy announcements to see if Iowa QB Chuck Long won. Our attendance doubled for the game vs. Georgia Southern the next week.

A school like UNI has a following among the converted alumni both in and out of state but when you're talking about non-alumni, the school's focus has to be on building fan support in the Waterloo area. People in Sioux Falls or Burlington are not going to become UNI fans unless they have a connection to the school. I would imagine it is similar in Texas. SHSU can't even bother thinking about the 27.86 million, they need to work on building support just in the Huntsville area which is probably 1/10 of .76 million.


Oh no, just go ask the fn hawks or one of the yote-strokers, only the UxD's are flagships. The xDSU's are just vo-techs.

[Serpentor]

There is a little more to it for NDSU and similar schools. Even though they are in lower population states, the Dakotas, Montana and even Delaware have an advantage being flagship schools in those states. First, there are resources provided by the state. Flagship schools are typically going to be first in line and have greater access to state financial and other resources. Second, they have a better foundation to build a fanbase on. In Iowa, the majority of the people are Hawkeye (majority) or Cyclone fans whether they went to school there or not. If you grow up a Hawkeye or Cyclone fan but end up going to UNI the school has to convert you. I would imagine that in North Dakota, Montana, etc. that kids grow up Bison or Griz fans and no converting is necessary. I can still remember the Dome being more than 1/2 empty for our playoff game against Eastern Washington in December of 1985. It wasn't Thanksgiving weekend. Where were the students and other fans? They stayed home for the Heisman Trophy announcements to see if Iowa QB Chuck Long won. Our attendance doubled for the game vs. Georgia Southern the next week.

A school like UNI has a following among the converted alumni both in and out of state but when you're talking about non-alumni, the school's focus has to be on building fan support in the Waterloo area. People in Sioux Falls or Burlington are not going to become UNI fans unless they have a connection to the school. I would imagine it is similar in Texas. SHSU can't even bother thinking about the 27.86 million, they need to work on building support just in the Huntsville area which is probably 1/10 of .76 million.

Thank you UNI88. All the major population areas in Texas have several FBS schools to siphon up all local news coverage and fan support. Hell, there are 4 major FBS schools in an 150 mile radius of SHSU. All of them with older D1 programs, many that started life as a full universities and had decades of financial help from the state and televised games to build up excitement. This argument that Bison fans make that SHSU should be this FCS powerhouse because of all the millions of Texans there are is bull****.

We were never a flagship school like NDSU is and did not ever get the attention or facilities they do. And Texans have never cared about any college football below D1A. EVER. Put a school our size in some desolate Rockies state and I guarantee we'd get 20K to show up for a game too.

[Professor Chaos]

There is a little more to it for NDSU and similar schools. Even though they are in lower population states, the Dakotas, Montana and even Delaware have an advantage being flagship schools in those states. First, there are resources provided by the state. Flagship schools are typically going to be first in line and have greater access to state financial and other resources. Second, they have a better foundation to build a fanbase on. In Iowa, the majority of the people are Hawkeye (majority) or Cyclone fans whether they went to school there or not. If you grow up a Hawkeye or Cyclone fan but end up going to UNI the school has to convert you. I would imagine that in North Dakota, Montana, etc. that kids grow up Bison or Griz fans and no converting is necessary. I can still remember the Dome being more than 1/2 empty for our playoff game against Eastern Washington in December of 1985. It wasn't Thanksgiving weekend. Where were the students and other fans? They stayed home for the Heisman Trophy announcements to see if Iowa QB Chuck Long won. Our attendance doubled for the game vs. Georgia Southern the next week.

A school like UNI has a following among the converted alumni both in and out of state but when you're talking about non-alumni, the school's focus has to be on building fan support in the Waterloo area. People in Sioux Falls or Burlington are not going to become UNI fans unless they have a connection to the school. I would imagine it is similar in Texas. SHSU can't even bother thinking about the 27.86 million, they need to work on building support just in the Huntsville area which is probably 1/10 of .76 million.


Thank you UNI88. All the major population areas in Texas have several FBS schools to siphon up all local news coverage and fan support. Hell, there are 4 major FBS schools in an 150 mile radius of SHSU. All of them with older D1 programs, many that started life as a full universities and had decades of financial help from the state and televised games to build up excitement. This argument that Bison fans make that SHSU should be this FCS powerhouse because of all the millions of Texans there are is bull****.

We were never a flagship school like NDSU is and did not ever get the attention or facilities they do. And Texans have never cared about any college football below D1A. EVER. Put a school our size in some desolate Rockies state and I guarantee we'd get 20K to show up for a game too.
Yet UNI and SHSU still have more fans in attendance on average for their football games than UND does. xchinscratchx

[cx500d]

Yet UNI and SHSU still have more fans in attendance on average for their football games than UND does. xchinscratchx


That's because they don't have #ButtHockey

[Daytripper]

There is a little more to it for NDSU and similar schools. Even though they are in lower population states, the Dakotas, Montana and even Delaware have an advantage being flagship schools in those states. First, there are resources provided by the state. Flagship schools are typically going to be first in line and have greater access to state financial and other resources. Second, they have a better foundation to build a fanbase on. In Iowa, the majority of the people are Hawkeye (majority) or Cyclone fans whether they went to school there or not. If you grow up a Hawkeye or Cyclone fan but end up going to UNI the school has to convert you. I would imagine that in North Dakota, Montana, etc. that kids grow up Bison or Griz fans and no converting is necessary. I can still remember the Dome being more than 1/2 empty for our playoff game against Eastern Washington in December of 1985. It wasn't Thanksgiving weekend. Where were the students and other fans? They stayed home for the Heisman Trophy announcements to see if Iowa QB Chuck Long won. Our attendance doubled for the game vs. Georgia Southern the next week.

A school like UNI has a following among the converted alumni both in and out of state but when you're talking about non-alumni, the school's focus has to be on building fan support in the Waterloo area. People in Sioux Falls or Burlington are not going to become UNI fans unless they have a connection to the school. I would imagine it is similar in Texas. SHSU can't even bother thinking about the 27.86 million, they need to work on building support just in the Huntsville area which is probably 1/10 of .76 million.

This. This. This. I couldn't have said it better myself....

[uni88]

Yet UNI and SHSU still have more fans in attendance on average for their football games than UND does. xchinscratchx

What I typed is what I think the reality is. Programs can use it as an excuse for lack of support and success or they can acknowledge that it's an obstacle and go to work overcoming it. IMO, UNI has worked hard for the most part to overcome it.

[Professor Chaos]

What I typed is what I think the reality is. Programs can use it as an excuse for lack of support and success or they can acknowledge that it's an obstacle and go to work overcoming it. IMO, UNI has worked hard for the most part to overcome it.
I meant it as more of a dig at UND than anything against UNI or SHSU. xthumbsupx

[BNATION]

Yea it definately is hard. Here's 180 miles from Huntsville. University of Texas, Texas A&M, University of Houston, Rice, North Texas, SMU, TCU, Texas State, UTSA, Baylor, and I'm probably leaving some out. That's not the state just within a 3 hr drive. It's pretty nuts. That's not counting other FCS schools.


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[cx500d]

Yea it definately is hard. Here's 180 miles from Huntsville. University of Texas, Texas A&M, University of Houston, Rice, North Texas, SMU, TCU, Texas State, UTSA, Baylor, and I'm probably leaving some out. That's not the state just within a 3 hr drive. It's pretty nuts. That's not counting other FCS schools.


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You left out SFA, Lamar, IW, HB, et al

[Katfan]

You left out SFA, Lamar, IW, HB, et al
He said not counting fcs schools, but UIW is more than 3hr drive

[Bisonoline]

There is a little more to it for NDSU and similar schools. Even though they are in lower population states, the Dakotas, Montana and even Delaware have an advantage being flagship schools in those states. First, there are resources provided by the state. Flagship schools are typically going to be first in line and have greater access to state financial and other resources. Second, they have a better foundation to build a fanbase on. In Iowa, the majority of the people are Hawkeye (majority) or Cyclone fans whether they went to school there or not. If you grow up a Hawkeye or Cyclone fan but end up going to UNI the school has to convert you. I would imagine that in North Dakota, Montana, etc. that kids grow up Bison or Griz fans and no converting is necessary. I can still remember the Dome being more than 1/2 empty for our playoff game against Eastern Washington in December of 1985. It wasn't Thanksgiving weekend. Where were the students and other fans? They stayed home for the Heisman Trophy announcements to see if Iowa QB Chuck Long won. Our attendance doubled for the game vs. Georgia Southern the next week.

A school like UNI has a following among the converted alumni both in and out of state but when you're talking about non-alumni, the school's focus has to be on building fan support in the Waterloo area. People in Sioux Falls or Burlington are not going to become UNI fans unless they have a connection to the school. I would imagine it is similar in Texas. SHSU can't even bother thinking about the 27.86 million, they need to work on building support just in the Huntsville area which is probably 1/10 of .76 million.

A few years back I stopped In Clear Lake at the Kum and Go. There was a guy who had a Hawkeye jacket and UNI hat on. When I mentioned it to him he looked at me, shook his head , smiled and said---dont ask. We both started laughing and left it at that.

[cx500d]

He said not counting fcs schools, but UIW is more than 3hr drive


I was just busting his balls....But, he put UTSA in the list. UIW is ever so much closer....

[Katfan]

I was just busting his balls....But, he put UTSA in the list. UIW is ever so much closer....
Good keep him honest. I’d love to have the home crowds you guys have. I’ve been to 1 game in the dome and it was great at least for the first half.

[cx500d]

Good keep him honest. I’d love to have the home crowds you guys have. I’ve been to 1 game in the dome and it was great at least for the first half.


Personally I've never been to a game at the dome.

[Katfan]

Personally I've never been to a game at the dome.
You should make one. It’s a great football experience

[cx500d]

You should make one. It’s a great football experience

Thats what I hear. If I had family up there I would...

[Daytripper]

You left out SFA, Lamar, IW, HB, et al

Uh..... no. They aren't really competition at this point.