Confidence vs. Delusion

[woffordgrad94]

Why is it that some people think that when a poster shows confidence in his team that other people think he is delusional? Should a poster ever just say “we cannot/will not win this game?” I know I’ve said that before but I think it really is wrong to do that if you’re a true fan and I always feel bad about saying it later. At the end of the day it is just a message board anyway. You might see some people as “delusional”. But leave people alone and let people dream LOL! Dreams are all some have got in this world!

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

This post should be moved to bobcat Nation....................

[Professor Chaos]

Why is it that when fans who show confidence in their team are questioned by opposing fans who show confidence in the opposing teams we're so quick to jump to the "well, I guess my team shouldn't even bother to make the trip then" woe-is-us retort?

I've learned over NDSU's playoff runs the last 7 years that the deeper you get into the playoffs the more confident the opposing fans are that there's no way their team can lose. It's just a fact of life around here this time of year. Be confident in your team's ability to win but don't be surprised when other fans do the same for their team to the detriment of yours.

[woffordgrad94]

Why is it that when fans who show confidence in their team are questioned by opposing fans who show confidence in the opposing teams we're so quick to jump to the "well, I guess my team shouldn't even bother to make the trip then" woe-is-us retort?

I've learned over NDSU's playoff runs the last 7 years that the deeper you get into the playoffs the more confident the opposing fans are that there's no way their team can lose. It's just a fact of life around here this time of year. Be confident in your team's ability to win but don't be surprised when other fans do the same for their team to the detriment of yours.
True- very good stuff there

[th0m]

Why is it that some people think that when a poster shows confidence in his team that other people think he is delusional? Should a poster ever just say “we cannot/will not win this game?” I know I’ve said that before but I think it really is wrong to do that if you’re a true fan and I always feel bad about saying it later. At the end of the day it is just a message board anyway. You might see some people as “delusional”. But leave people alone and let people dream LOL! Dreams are all some have got in this world!

Kinda ironic when you were the most debbie downer on your own team when the bracket was announced.

But yes. Have confidence in your team. It's more fun to beat a team with confident fans.

[DFW HOYA]

But yes. Have confidence in your team.

Not as easy as it looks...

[ST_Lawson]

You'll never hear me say that I think WIU can't lose...doesn't matter who we're playing...NDSU, Weber State, Indiana State.

Can we win against all those teams...sure. But can we get beat by all three as well...yup.

I think we have a little bit of an advantage in our game against Weber State, and I hope it's a blowout to our advantage, but it's entirely possible we could lose.

Football can be a crazy sport and upsets do happen, pretty much every week.

I think the only time in recent memory where I've said that something was absolutely going to happen, I was arguing with someone on Facebook who insisted that no 7-4 teams would get in as at-large teams because the bubble was too strong and there's too many 8 and 9 win teams.


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[kalm]

This post should be moved to bobcat Nation....................

You have your moments. Lol.

[woffordgrad94]

Kinda ironic when you were the most debbie downer on your own team when the bracket was announced.

But yes. Have confidence in your team. It's more fun to beat a team with confident fans.
It is ironic. I overreacted in my disappointment with rematches and our bracket because I wanted to play some new teams and not same old same old. I should not be like that though. And we do have a shot, even if we’recalled the underdog. it’s not like we’re playing the New England Patriots.

[Serpentor]

All fans are delusion. You're rooting for a team that by some quirk of fate you happen to have been born by, and you're hoping they win so you can feel morally superior to other people you don't know. It's the most unearned sense of victory imaginable, you might as well get high, it's just as realistic an accomplishment if you're looking to feel good about yourself.

[Daytripper]

All fans are delusion. You're rooting for a team that by some quirk of fate you happen to have been born by, and you're hoping they win so you can feel morally superior to other people you don't know. It's the most unearned sense of victory imaginable, you might as well get high, it's just as realistic an accomplishment if you're looking to feel good about yourself.

I'm going to get soooo high when we win the national championship! Because I am the greatest because my team won!

[Yote 53]

All fans are delusion. You're rooting for a team that by some quirk of fate you happen to have been born by, and you're hoping they win so you can feel morally superior to other people you don't know. It's the most unearned sense of victory imaginable, you might as well get high, it's just as realistic an accomplishment if you're looking to feel good about yourself.

I don't feel morally superior to Jacks, Bison, or Fhawkers. I AM superior to them. I went to South Dakota. It's a known and undisputable fact.

[cx500d]

Should a poster ever just say “we cannot/will not win this game?”

The CCSU people are...

[cx500d]

I don't feel morally superior to Jacks, Bison, or Fhawkers. I AM superior to them. I went to South Dakota. It's a known and undisputable fact.


I thought about going to South Dakota, but its a state liberal arts school (translate: would you like fries with that is taught there in the career center) with no engineering programs, plus its in a cultural black hole.

[ElCid]

I thought about going to South Dakota, but its a state liberal arts school (translate: would you like fries with that is taught there in the career center) with no engineering programs, plus its in a cultural black hole.

As opposed to Fargo?xlolx Sorry couldn't resist.

[cx500d]

As opposed to Fargo?xlolx Sorry couldn't resist.


Have you EVER been to Vermillion? At least the Fargo metro area is pushing probably 200,000 people. Vermilion probably still has a volunteer fire department and everybody in town shares 5 party lines.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

You have your moments. Lol.

Do i

[ElCid]

Have you EVER been to Vermillion? At least the Fargo metro area is pushing probably 200,000 people. Vermilion probably still has a volunteer fire department and everybody in town shares 5 party lines.


Simple relativity. I will take the Holy City over an oasis on the plains any day.

[TheKingpin28]

I don't feel morally superior to Jacks, Bison, or Fhawkers. I AM superior to them. I went to South Dakota. It's a known and undisputable fact.

The posts on here just keep getting worse and worse by the day.

[JayMYou]

I don't feel morally superior to Jacks, Bison, or Fhawkers. I AM superior to them. I went to South Dakota. It's a known and undisputable fact.

Confidence is the belief in the particular outcome of an event with more than one potential outcome. Delusion is when the belief in that particular outcome is capriciously stated as fact. Only folks with Oppositional Defiant Disorder like Alphagiz prattle on about such things. Don't be like him.

[clenz]

I’m currently arguing with thumper as to who wins between UNI and SDSU. The argument is not exactly full of homerism


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[AmsterBison]

JSU fans are ticked off that they're going to have to travel to NDSU. It's flattering that they have that much confidence in our team, but I've seen NDSU play in the postseason 20+ times and the only game I was 100% NDSU was going to win was against San Diego last year... and that game turned out to be much closer than the final score indicates.

[CappinHard]

I don't feel morally superior to Jacks, Bison, or Fhawkers. I AM superior to them. I went to South Dakota. It's a known and undisputable fact.

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[JSUSoutherner]

JSU fans are ticked off that they're going to have to travel to NDSU. It's flattering that they have that much confidence in our team, but I've seen NDSU play in the postseason 20+ times and the only game I was 100% NDSU was going to win was against San Diego last year... and that game turned out to be much closer than the final score indicates.
I'm not.

Would I like to get the Bison in Jacksonville? Yeah. That'd be a fun game.

However, (and I may just have this opinion cause I'll be going Fargo too if we make it) I don't have an issue with playing at NDSU. The Bison earned their seed and they have a great atmosphere.

It's be one thing if we had to play outside (we honestly might just forfeit if that were to happen xlolx) but I for one am looking forward to experiencing the storied NDSU Gameday. I think if we make it, win or lose, it will be a good time. Unless we get blown out again... That sucked a lot. I do think a JSU/ NDSU game would be a good matchup this year though.

[Yote 53]

Have you EVER been to Vermillion? At least the Fargo metro area is pushing probably 200,000 people. Vermilion probably still has a volunteer fire department and everybody in town shares 5 party lines.

With cellular phone technology we don't have to share phones anymore. You got me on the volunteer fire department though.

[POD Knows]

JSU fans are ticked off that they're going to have to travel to NDSU. It's flattering that they have that much confidence in our team, but I've seen NDSU play in the postseason 20+ times and the only game I was 100% NDSU was going to win was against San Diego last year... and that game turned out to be much closer than the final score indicates.I was 100% positive that the 2013 team would beat everybody.

[Yotes21]

Have you EVER been to Vermillion? At least the Fargo metro area is pushing probably 200,000 people. Vermilion probably still has a volunteer fire department and everybody in town shares 5 party lines.


Population doesn't always equate to culture.

[Yotes21]

I’m currently arguing with thumper as to who wins between UNI and SDSU. The argument is not exactly full of homerism


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Nobody cares about your lovefest.

[Yotes21]

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You fell for the bait...just when I thought you were beginning to be one of the best SDSU posters with decent logic.

[Thumper 76]

Population doesn't always equate to culture.

I’m sure your doctor finds the average USeD attendee’s cultures fascinating and your SDSU graduate pharmacist finds them profitable.


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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

JSU fans are ticked off that they're going to have to travel to NDSU. It's flattering that they have that much confidence in our team, but I've seen NDSU play in the postseason 20+ times and the only game I was 100% NDSU was going to win was against San Diego last year... and that game turned out to be much closer than the final score indicates.



Only San Diego?

xrolleyesx

NDSU is not a spread them out and throw the ball team. You know you can have a blowout with the score relative close, right? Different perception I guess.

[WeAreThePride]

You were the one saying that Wofford had zero chance against the Bison. That you were going to pretend the game never happened.

[woffordgrad94]

You were the one saying that Wofford had zero chance against the Bison. That you were going to pretend the game never happened.

Well maybe I was afraid that if I actctually uttered that I thought that (GASP!) Wofford had a chance that a whole buch of NDSU folks would jump all over my ass and call me stupid, delusional, crazy, etc. Kind of like in 2012 when they came to our message board spouting that kind of stuff and the mods had to ban several of them for talking so much **** to us on our own board...and our board hardly ever bans anyone so that just lets you know how bad it was.

[ElCid]

I think being delusional is so much more fun than being confident. Just saying.

[Bisonoline]

Well maybe I was afraid that if I actctually uttered that I thought that (GASP!) Wofford had a chance that a whole buch of NDSU folks would jump all over my ass and call me stupid, delusional, crazy, etc. Kind of like in 2012 when they came to our message board spouting that kind of stuff and the mods had to ban several of them for talking so much **** to us on our own board...and our board hardly ever bans anyone so that just lets you know how bad it was.

Must have been terribly traumatic that to this day you are afraid to talk about playing us.

[BisonFan02]

I don't feel morally superior to Jacks, Bison, or Fhawkers. I AM superior to them. I went to South Dakota. It's a known and undisputable fact.

All of you guys are state school peasants.

[cx500d]

Population doesn't always equate to culture.


Which in the case of Vermillion, has neither.

[Bison56]

Well maybe I was afraid that if I actctually uttered that I thought that (GASP!) Wofford had a chance that a whole buch of NDSU folks would jump all over my ass and call me stupid, delusional, crazy, etc. Kind of like in 2012 when they came to our message board spouting that kind of stuff and the mods had to ban several of them for talking so much **** to us on our own board...and our board hardly ever bans anyone so that just lets you know how bad it was.

It wouldn't matter if you posted it, we already know you are.:D

[Terry2889]

Confidence= If UNH plays well, maybe they beat CCSU, and then play tough against UCA xnodx
Delusion= UNH is going to the Championship! xrotatehx

[walliver]

Simple relativity. I will take the Holy City over an oasis on the plains any day.

Even if you're locking inside a fence and only allowed out on Saturday.

My first year in grad school, I lived on Calhoun Street and would sit on my balcony watching the cadets head downtown on foot on Saturday evenings (and stumble back later that night).

[CappinHard]

You fell for the bait...just when I thought you were beginning to be one of the best SDSU posters with decent logic.

Ha, I figured you weren't serious so I just replied with a half-hearted gif. Plus, I get confused with all of the Yotes ## posters... I never know if it's one of the rational ones or one of the delusional ones. You guys need to get some new names so we can differentiate and don't lump you in with the rest of the Vermints.

[bobcathpdevil56]

This post should be moved to bobcat Nation....................

Really Alpha, have you met jadmt?

[ElCid]

Even if you're locked inside a fence and only allowed out on Saturday.

Yup. And it wasn't that bad.

[Yotes21]

Ha, I figured you weren't serious so I just replied with a half-hearted gif. Plus, I get confused with all of the Yotes ## posters... I never know if it's one of the rational ones or one of the delusional ones. You guys need to get some new names so we can differentiate and don't lump you in with the rest of the Vermints.

I'm not sure how or if I can change my name. When I signed up I didn't know what other Yotes fans had for their names.

[Yote84]

Have you EVER been to Vermillion? At least the Fargo metro area is pushing probably 200,000 people. Vermilion probably still has a volunteer fire department and everybody in town shares 5 party lines.

Haha. Yea, but they have like 13 fire trucks and a few grass fire trucks. Pretty legit.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

All of you guys are state school peasants.


Do they have football at Jimmy U?

xeyebrowx

:D

[mmiller_34]

Below is the list of South Dakota Coyote posters on AGS:

- Yotes53
- Yotes21
- Yotes32
- Yotes96
- Yotes15
- Yotes38
- Yote84

I feel like its all the same person.

[TennBison]

Well maybe I was afraid that if I actctually uttered that I thought that (GASP!) Wofford had a chance that a whole buch of NDSU folks would jump all over my ass and call me stupid, delusional, crazy, etc. Kind of like in 2012 when they came to our message board spouting that kind of stuff and the mods had to ban several of them for talking so much **** to us on our own board...and our board hardly ever bans anyone so that just lets you know how bad it was.
That was probably the first time I got banned, I was in shock.

[JSUSoutherner]

Below is the list of South Dakota Coyote posters on AGS:

- Yotes53
- Yotes21
- Yotes32
- Yotes96
- Yotes15
- Yotes38
- Yote84

I feel like its all the same person.

Honestly had no idea it wasn't.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Well maybe I was afraid that if I actctually uttered that I thought that (GASP!) Wofford had a chance that a whole buch of NDSU folks would jump all over my ass and call me stupid, delusional, crazy, etc. Kind of like in 2012 when they came to our message board spouting that kind of stuff and the mods had to ban several of them for talking so much **** to us on our own board...and our board hardly ever bans anyone so that just lets you know how bad it was.


Just went over to your home board and read your playoff thread. I like the enthusiasm and confidence.

I like watching the option/veer but I have never seen the Bison lose to a one dimensional team.

[ElCid]

Below is the list of South Dakota Coyote posters on AGS:

- Yotes53
- Yotes21
- Yotes32
- Yotes96
- Yotes15
- Yotes38
- Yote84

I feel like its all the same person.

Is that like being a Yoder in Amish country?

[clenz]

Is that like being a Yoder in Amish country?
NW Iowa and SE South Dakota have a number of Amish. We also have a rather large number of Penecostals as well - many of which still very much on the fundamentalist side of it with the denim skirts, never cutting hair, only white button up shirts, dress slacks, etc...

So yeah, it's basically the same thing

[Yote 53]

Below is the list of South Dakota Coyote posters on AGS:

- Yotes53
- Yotes21
- Yotes32
- Yotes96
- Yotes15
- Yotes38
- Yote84

I feel like its all the same person.
We travel in packs.

Actually, the number is either an old jersey number or graduation year.

[cx500d]

NW Iowa and SE South Dakota have a number of Amish. We also have a rather large number of Penecostals as well - many of which still very much on the fundamentalist side of it with the denim skirts, never cutting hair, only white button up shirts, dress slacks, etc...

So yeah, it's basically the same thing

What about Hutterites?

[clenz]

What about Hutterites?
Probably.

To be honest, I can't tell the difference between the Pentecostals, Apostolic, Hutterites, a number of Amish, Quakers, etc.

We have all of them in NW Iowa. There's a couple common names that the general public uses to refer to all of them - none of which are kosher. None are overly bad, but certainly prejudicial.

[uni88]

Haha. Yea, but they have like 13 fire trucks and a few grass fire trucks. Pretty legit.How many of those 13 are standing advertisements for Firehouse Brewery in Rapid City? :D

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[CappinHard]

We travel in packs.

Actually, the number is either an old jersey number or graduation year.

So you guys all got together and said "ok guys... We need a presence on AGS, but we need to be united, so everyone's handle will be Yotes then either your old jersey number or graduation year". I can't imagine the backlash Yote84 got for straying from the pack.

[BisonFan02]

Do they have football at Jimmy U?

xeyebrowx

:D

Barely. xlolx

[Schism55]

What about Hutterites?
They are definitely Hutterites in SD, north central part for sure.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

What about Hutterites?


There is a colony down by Hawley, I have a bee location on their land. Nice people but they are not like the Amish. They use technology. Good farmers also. Cool listening to them speak....German accent.

[woffordgrad94]

It wouldn't matter if you posted it, we already know you are.:D

???????????
Know I am what? Whatever. I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I? xlolx

[Yote 53]

So you guys all got together and said "ok guys... We need a presence on AGS, but we need to be united, so everyone's handle will be Yotes then either your old jersey number or graduation year". I can't imagine the backlash Yote84 got for straying from the pack.
Actually, it was totally organic. If you go over to GoYotes there are all kinds of Yote# posters but I actually think the presence here might be larger.

[Yote 53]

There is a colony down by Hawley, I have a bee location on their land. Nice people but they are not like the Amish. They use technology. Good farmers also. Cool listening to them speak....German accent.

There is a colony over by Yankton too. I have heard stories about how they, ahem, keep their gene pool from being too linear.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

There is a colony over by Yankton too. I have heard stories about how they, ahem, keep their gene pool from being too linear.

xlolx

Yep, stories like what you have heard are the same up here...and true!

[jsualumnus]

What about Hutterites?

We used to buy corn and bread from the Hutterites when I lived in Great Falls, MT.

[Bison56]

???????????
Know I am what? Whatever. I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I? xlolx

You said we would think you were "stupid, delusional, crazy, etc. " xlolx

[cx500d]

There is a colony down by Hawley, I have a bee location on their land. Nice people but they are not like the Amish. They use technology. Good farmers also. Cool listening to them speak....German accent.

Lots of them in MT, ND. They also run businesses and do manufacturing. The pool money and by large land plots to start colonies; kind of prices out individual farmers. One of the hutterite colonies also bought the old cold war radar base west of Grand Forks near Nekoma.