STATS Poll - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

[ecasadoSBU]

STATS POLL:

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs


]Rank School Vote Prev
1 James Madison (10-0) 4075 (163) 1
2 Jacksonville State (9-1) 3840 2
3 Central Arkansas (9-1) 3700 3
4 North Dakota State (9-1) 3510 5
5 Sam Houston State (9-1) 3451 4
6 South Dakota State (8-2) 3331 6
7 Wofford (9-1) 3043 8
8 North Carolina A&T (10-0) 2829 9
9 Western Illinois (7-3) 2417 11
10 Stony Brook (8-2) 2263 12
11 Elon (8-2) 2197 7
12 Weber State (8-2) 2096 14
13 Grambling State (9-1) 1942 13
14 Southern Utah (8-2) 1823 15
15 South Dakota (7-3) 1769 10
16 New Hampshire (7-3) 1667 18
17 Samford (7-3) 1598 16
18 Eastern Washington (6-4) 1049 19
19 McNeese (8-2) 967 20
20 Furman (7-3) 954 21
21 Illinois State (6-4) 798 17
22 Kennesaw State (9-1) 787 23
23 Northern Arizona (7-3) 717 24
24 UNI (6-4) 515 25
25 Nicholls (8-2) 485 NR

Others: Monmouth (366) , Delaware (225) , Montana (215) , Yale (89)
Richmond (83) , Western Carolina (70) , Austin Peay (46) , Columbia (18)
North Carolina Central (16) , Sacramento State (7) , Youngstown State (6)
Howard (5) , Central Connecticut State (3) , Dartmouth (2) , San Diego (1)

[93henfan]

STATS POLL:

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs

Whose d*** is EWU sucking?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

STATS POLL:

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs

That gets it's own thread and does not go insidde this one just for future reference.

[TheKingpin28]

Rank
School
Votes
Prev


1
James Madison (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0196) (10-0)
4075 (163)
1


2
Jacksonville State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0247) (9-1)
3840
2


3
Central Arkansas (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0268) (9-1)
3700
3


4
North Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0309) (9-1)
3510
5


5
Sam Houston State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0184) (9-1)
3451
4


6
South Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0312) (8-2)
3331
6


7
Wofford (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0267) (9-1)
3043
8


8
North Carolina A&T (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0148) (10-0)
2829
9


9
Western Illinois (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0126) (7-3)
2417
11


10
Stony Brook (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0629) (8-2)
2263
12


11
Elon (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0350) (8-2)
2197
7


12
Weber State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0119) (8-2)
2096
14


13
Grambling State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0189) (9-1)
1942
13


14
Southern Utah (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0111) (8-2)
1823
15


15
South Dakota (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0311) (7-3)
1769
10


16
New Hampshire (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0205) (7-3)
1667
18


17
Samford (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0218) (7-3)
1598
16


18
Eastern Washington (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0113) (6-4)
1049
19


19
McNeese (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0180) (8-2)
967
20


20
Furman (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0174) (7-3)
954
21


21
Illinois State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0121) (6-4)
798
17


22
Kennesaw State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2610) (9-1)
787
23


23
Northern Arizona (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0118) (7-3)
717
24


24
UNI (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0123) (6-4)
515
25


25
Nicholls (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0181) (8-2)
485
NR


Others: Monmouth (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0216) (366) , Delaware (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0195) (225) , Montana (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0116) (215) , Yale (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0134) (89) , Richmond (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0198) (83) , Western Carolina (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0179) (70) , Austin Peay (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0150) (46) , Columbia (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0128) (18) , North Carolina Central (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0621) (16) , Sacramento State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0110) (7) , Youngstown State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0225)(6) , Howard (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0146) (5) , Central Connecticut State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0209) (3) , Dartmouth (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0130) (2) , San Diego (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0169) (1)

[TheKingpin28]

Biggest issue with this poll

Way Too High:
NCAT
Grambling

Too High:
UNH
EWU
McNeese

Too Low:
NDSU

Way Too Low:
UNI
SUU

[Professor Chaos]

Biggest issue with this poll

Way Too High:
NCAT
Grambling

Too High:
UNH
EWU
McNeese

Too Low:
NDSU

Way Too Low:
UNI
SUU
You can add Delaware into the "Way Too Low" category as well.

[TheKingpin28]

You can add Delaware into the "Way Too Low" category as well.

I was looking at just the T25, but yes that is just a joke. Hell WCU has a reason to be in the Too Low/Way Too Low category.

[Professor]

Bwhahaha. The usual comments. I love it

[TheKingpin28]

Bwhahaha. The usual comments. I love it

Justify NCAT in the top 15. Please, go on, I will wait.

[Professor Chaos]

Each year I think the STATS and Coach's polls are getting worse when they probably are just staying at the same level of crappiness. But, I think it will be real fun this year to compare the projected field and seeds for these two polls along with the AGS poll in comparison to what the committee puts out next Sunday.

[JSUSoutherner]

Whose d*** is EWU sucking?
All of them.

Eastern Washington is sucking all of the d***s.

[POD Knows]

All of them.

Eastern Washington is sucking all of the d***s.It is a SOS vote, their FCS losses are NDSU, SUU and Weber, JSU hasn't played a single FCS team as good as any of those three. Deal with it.

[Reign of Terrier]

Furman's too low in my opinion.

They should be top 15

[LarryBoy]

Furman's too low in my opinion.

They should be top 15

I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news, but you’ve become one of Furman’s most ardent supporters on this forum.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy for the support, but... just in case you didn’t know that was going on and needed some sort of intervention...

[Serpentor]

What would happen if the all the major ADs in the FCS contacted the STATS and Coaches Polls administrators and told them they had no confidence in their ability to accurately rate things.

[LarryBoy]

Historically, do either of these polls reflect the reality of the playoff field? Or can we be confident that the committee completely ignores this?

[dungeonjoe]

I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news, but you’ve become one of Furman’s most ardent supporters on this forum.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy for the support, but... just in case you didn’t know that was going on and needed some sort of intervention...

In the postseason, the SoCon sticks together (until we play each other)!

[FargoBison]

Swapping NC A&T With SUU And Grambling with UNI would fix some of the more serious issues with this poll.

[Professor Chaos]

Historically, do either of these polls reflect the reality of the playoff field? Or can we be confident that the committee completely ignores this?
Nope. Last year was as good of an example as any year. These were the top 8 for the final regular season poll for both STATS and the Coaches and the adjustment in parenthesis is how the committee seeded it.

STATS
1. Sam Houston St (-4)
2. Jacksonville St (-1)
3. Eastern Washington (+1)
4. North Dakota St (+3)
5. James Madison (+1)
6. The Citadel (-)
7. South Dakota St (-1)
8. North Dakota (+1)

Coaches
1. Sam Houston St (-4)
2. Jacksonville St (-1)
3. North Dakota St (+2)
4. Eastern Washington (+2)
5. James Madison (+1)
6. The Citadel (-)
7. South Dakota St (-1)
8. North Dakota (+1)


And for comparison's sake....

AGS Poll
1. North Dakota St (-)
2. Eastern Washington (-)
3. Jacksonville St (-)
4. James Madison (-)
5. Sam Houston St (-)
6. The Citadel (-)
7. South Dakota St (-1)
8. North Dakota (+1)

Officially the committee ignores all polls and rating systems when setting the field outside of the NCAA developed SRS but it's a pretty obvious trend to see which poll they generally align with most closely come Selection Sunday. :D

[PaladinFan]

Historically, do either of these polls reflect the reality of the playoff field? Or can we be confident that the committee completely ignores this?

The polling has Furman and Samford lumped fairly close together.

I know a lot of folks are of the mind that Samford/Furman is a playoff elimination game, and it may be, but I don't see either team dropping significantly with a loss. Furman, obviously, has the better case for inclusion at 7-4 than Samford does. I think a lot remains to be seen on what happens nationally.

[ecasadoSBU]

Nope. Last year was as good of an example as any year. These were the top 8 for the final regular season poll for both STATS and the Coaches and the adjustment in parenthesis is how the committee seeded it.

STATS
1. Sam Houston St (-4)
2. Jacksonville St (-1)
3. Eastern Washington (+1)
4. North Dakota St (+3)
5. James Madison (+1)
6. The Citadel (-)
7. South Dakota St (-1)
8. North Dakota (+1)

Coaches
1. Sam Houston St (-4)
2. Jacksonville St (-1)
3. North Dakota St (+2)
4. Eastern Washington (+2)
5. James Madison (+1)
6. The Citadel (-)
7. South Dakota St (-1)
8. North Dakota (+1)


And for comparison's sake....

AGS Poll
1. North Dakota St (-)
2. Eastern Washington (-)
3. Jacksonville St (-)
4. James Madison (-)
5. Sam Houston St (-)
6. The Citadel (-)
7. South Dakota St (-1)
8. North Dakota (+1)

Officially the committee ignores all polls and rating systems when setting the field outside of the NCAA developed SRS but it's a pretty obvious trend to see which poll they generally align with most closely come Selection Sunday. :D

Wow! The accuracy of the AGS poll is really impressive. Congrats to you guys for doing such a fair and balanced poll!

[TheKingpin28]

Wow! The accuracy of the AGS poll is really impressive. Congrats to you guys for doing such a fair and balanced poll!

Don't say that too loud otherwise the JMU fanboys and woffordterrier will come in here to say you are wrong.

[WestCoastAggie]

Justify NCAT in the top 15. Please, go on, I will wait.

It’s where the voters want us to be.

[TheKingpin28]

It’s where the voters want us to be.

Who? I am surprised AGS even has NCAT at 13. It has been established how horrible STATS and Coaches are, so I want you to justify it with your schedule and ranked wins as to why you are worthy of it. The fact that you said "It's where the voters want us to be" is a horrible argument and proves you do not deserve it.

[Reign of Terrier]

I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news, but you’ve become one of Furman’s most ardent supporters on this forum.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy for the support, but... just in case you didn’t know that was going on and needed some sort of intervention...

I've been saying it for about a month now. I think Furman's would get in the playoffs easily at 7-4 in a year where the bubble wasn't so big. If they win, they're in, and they'll deserve a spot.

Sucks that they'll play Wofford in the second round though

[gofurman]

Furman's too low in my opinion.

They should be top 15

Thanks YT. Appreciate a rival being objective w his support. And you know more than most nationally about SoCon bc you see Wofford v same teams and then see Furmans scores vs same teams. 56-20 on Citadel? Helllo !!! 42-0 or so before they scored. 35-0 at half. Worst lost for Citadel prior was by 21 or so to Samford. Not close

[gofurman]

Nope. Last year was as good of an example as any year. These were the top 8 for the final regular season poll for both STATS and the Coaches and the adjustment in parenthesis is how the committee seeded it.

STATS
1. Sam Houston St (-4)
2. Jacksonville St (-1)
3. Eastern Washington (+1)
4. North Dakota St (+3)
5. James Madison (+1)
6. The Citadel (-)
7. South Dakota St (-1)
8. North Dakota (+1)

Coaches
1. Sam Houston St (-4)
2. Jacksonville St (-1)
3. North Dakota St (+2)
4. Eastern Washington (+2)
5. James Madison (+1)
6. The Citadel (-)
7. South Dakota St (-1)
8. North Dakota (+1)


And for comparison's sake....

AGS Poll
1. North Dakota St (-)
2. Eastern Washington (-)
3. Jacksonville St (-)
4. James Madison (-)
5. Sam Houston St (-)
6. The Citadel (-)
7. South Dakota St (-1)
8. North Dakota (+1)

Officially the committee ignores all polls and rating systems when setting the field outside of the NCAA developed SRS but it's a pretty obvious trend to see which poll they generally align with most closely come Selection Sunday. :D

**How was AGS on predicting the field ? *How did the AGS poll reflect the brackets Last year and in general ? *** IE my Paladins are 15th in AGS though 14 If we discount NCAT so i hope you guys are the best! Crazy coaches have us 24. STATS at 20.

[TheKingpin28]

**How was AGS on predicting the field ? *How did the AGS poll reflect the brackets Last year and in general ? *** IE my Paladins are 15th in AGS though 14 If we discount NCAT so i hope you guys are the best! Crazy coaches have us 24. STATS at 20.

The committee is as accurate as the AGS poll. They are the ones who would be wrong. It is common knowledge on here that our poll is the most accurate predictor for playoff teams outside of AQs. Last year, we had a "perfect poll" in that all the At-Larges were in our poll.

[Professor Chaos]

**How was AGS on predicting the field ? *How did the AGS poll reflect the brackets Last year and in general ? *** IE my Paladins are 15th in AGS though 14 If we discount NCAT so i hope you guys are the best! Crazy coaches have us 24. STATS at 20.
The AGS poll nailed the field last year as well. This was the poll released prior to Selection Sunday (autobids are underlined, at large are bolded). Grambling and NC Central weren't eligible since they were in the Celebration Bowl.

Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 North Dakota State Bison 1636 32
2 Eastern Washington Eagles 1631 24
3T Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1509 4
3T James Madison Dukes 1509 4
5 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1505 4
6 The Citadel Bulldogs 1364
7 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1284
8 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 1208
9 Youngstown State Penguins 1019
10 Villanova Wildcats 1004
11 Chattanooga Mocs 966
12T Richmond Spiders 917
12T Central Arkansas Bears 917
14 Charleston Southern Buccaneers 814
15 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 788
16 Wofford Terriers 755
17 Cal Poly Mustangs 585
18 New Hampshire Wildcats 393
19 Grambling State Tigers 357
20 Samford Bulldogs 334
21 Weber State Wildcats 277
22 North Carolina Central Eagles 270
23 Illinois State Redbirds 267
24 North Carolina A&T Aggies 216
25 Albany Great Danes 214


Although to be fair I think the STATS poll also projected the field correctly last year after talking out the ineligible teams and the autos.

[SU FAN]

Its a decent poll, but yes a few things could be cleaned up a bit in it