Potential New Delaware Stadium

[BlueHenBoy]

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[UNHWildCats]

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For people that don't have an ccount there and outsiders. Post your comments in here. Keep it realistic.

OK heres mine, though not realistic.

1. Take all the money that would be spent on the stadium.

2. Deposit it all into one bank account.

3. Fill out a check made payable to Marty Scarano.

4. Mail the check to;

Marty Scarano
c/o University of New Hampshire Athletic Department
Field House
145 Main St.
Durham, NH 03824

5. Bask in the greatfulness of Wildcat fans everywhere.


:D


OK now carry on with the more realistic scenerios.

[FlyYtown]

My only change would be YSU: 49 Delaware: 17 lol...

[MplsBison]

Hmm...I wonder if the state is going to build DE a new stadium ala UConn...

[henfan]

Hmm...I wonder if the state is going to build DE a new stadium ala UConn...

Can't happen. Won't happen. If UD tackles a project like this, they'd have to do it on their own. The State's not in the financial position right now to assist the school with a multi-million dollar entertainment proposal. They refused to assist Del State with their proposal two years ago.

The priorities for taxpayers remain better roads, K-12 education, etc. A new football stadium for a quasi-private college would come in at about #289 on the list or priorities. UD would have to get in line behind Del State.

[MplsBison]

What do you mean quasi private?

Do you receive funding from the state?

Yes? => Public.

[GannonFan]

What do you mean quasi private?

Do you receive funding from the state?

Yes? => Public.

Ahh, the posting of the uninformed. Yes they get some of their money from the state and yes that would technically label them as public. However, in the small quarters that are Delaware politics, UD commands a great deal of influence and the major mover and shakers in Delaware are pro-UD so UD operates with considerable independence from the state (i.e. UD through its Board of Trustees basically answers only to itself - the state does not govern UD) and that's where the "quasi" comes into play - very few traditional "state" public schools, if any, operate in that fashion.

[89Hen]

What do you mean quasi private?

Do you receive funding from the state?

Yes? => Public.
http://chronicle.com/stats/990/

This database shows the compensation, from institutional and private sources, of chief executives of 183 public colleges and public-college systems. The institutions surveyed include the 147 public universities with total enrollments of at least 10,000...

Four universities consider themselves quasi-private institutions (Pennsylvania State University, Temple University, the University of Delaware, and the University of Pittsburgh) and are not legally required to provide current salary information. Temple and the University of Delaware's compensation information was determined from the Form 990 they each filed with the Internal Revenue Service because of their special status.

[MplsBison]

Four universities consider themselves quasi-private institutions (Pennsylvania State University, Temple University, the University of Delaware, and the University of Pittsburgh)

That figures, all 4 schools are either in Pennsylvania or Pennsylvanian 2.

(note: Pennsylvania 2 = Delaware)

[henfan]

FTR, Delaware State University and Delaware Technical Community College are also classified as quasi-private in the same way as University of Delaware. None of the three receive a majority of their funding from State sources.

[dbackjon]

FTR, Delaware State University and Delaware Technical Community College are also classified as quasi-private in the same way as University of Delaware. None of the three receive a majority of their funding from State sources.


I think that you will find that MOST "public" schools do not recieve a majority of their funding from State sources......

[henfan]

I think that you will find that MOST "public" schools do not recieve a majority of their funding from State sources......

No question. I didn't mean to imply that this was the case.

All three state-sponsored Delaware schools are quasi-private due to their legal status rather than the quantity of State support. UD, DSU and DTCC are exempt from most of the State's FOIA regs.

[MplsBison]

Delaware is an odd state.

Look at the northern board, for crying out loud.

[89Hen]

Delaware is an odd state.

Look at the northern board, for crying out loud.
Try thinking outside the box you westerner. :p :smiley_wi

[bandl]

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This would be sweet! I'd still piss on your walls though, just out of nostalgia. ;)

[GannonFan]

Delaware is an odd state.

Look at the northern board, for crying out loud.

Nothing odd about it, just a result of politics and the like in the American Colonies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wedge_(border)

[Henny]

Because of the law (circle around New Castle), Delaware is actually the only state that is growing. We now have land on the NJ side since they keep dredging the Delaware river.

[henfan]

Delaware: Expanding Now So That We Can Shrink Later.: smh :
http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/UniqueKeyLookup/SHSU5BPQKJ/$File/delbayc.pdf

[BlueHenBoy]

Thanks, you guys were so helpful.:rolleyes:

[ngineer]

I don't see the need for a whole new stadium. Yes, the field may need replacement, but Delware Stadium, IMO, is a very good stadium. Close to the field and good sightline (at least my the vantage points I've had when there).

[Bobcat in NC]

No comments about how a picture of WaGriz has infested yet another message board?

[89Hen]

I don't see the need for a whole new stadium. Yes, the field may need replacement, but Delware Stadium, IMO, is a very good stadium. Close to the field and good sightline (at least my the vantage points I've had when there).
Much of the speculation on that is building codes and how none of the current stadium would pass and any addition would put the rest of the stadium out of code unless the addition were free standing. I've never heard that from somebody who really knows, but that's the story that floats around.

Most agree with you that there really is not a bad seat in the house. I've sat in probably every section, high and low and I wouldnt' describe any as bad.

BTW, the field was replaced and I hope you're not talking about fake grass.

[GannonFan]

Agreed, the field itself is fine now, probably the best surface in the conference now that W&M joined the dark side and went with fake grass (in their defense, they had real space issues that led to that decision). Of course, fixing the field was one season too late, but why dwell on that?

[MR. CHICKEN]

Much of the speculation on that is building codes and how none of the current stadium would pass and any addition would put the rest of the stadium out of code unless the addition were free standing. I've never heard that from somebody who really knows, but that's the story that floats around.

Most agree with you that there really is not a bad seat in the house. I've sat in probably every section, high and low and I wouldnt' describe any as bad.

BTW, the field was replaced and I hope you're not talking about fake grass.


KEELER & TUBBY HAVE MENTIONED.......DUH CODE ISSUES..SEVERAL TIMES....ON DERE.......SUBSEQUENT RADIO SHOWS.......BRAWK!

KEELER EVEN MENTIONED DAT UH ARTIFICIAL SURFACE......HAS TA REQUIRE UH WATER RUN-OFF STUDY.......DELAWARE WENT WHIFF REAL GRASS B/CAUSE STUDIES TAKE TIME AN'....DELAWARE STADIUM...WAS IN NEED O' UH QUICK FIX....(ALL-DOUGH)..HE HAS ALSO STATED..HE PREFERS REAL BLADES.......:rotateh:.....DOODLE-DOO!

[henfan]

There's are plenty of good reasons why most NFL and NCAA D-I schools are going to new generation artificial surfaces. Very few are ripping them up to put down grass.

Grass is fine if you're located in the perfect climate, have an unlimited athletic budget, and devote resources to maintaining the surface. UD has proven it's not prepared or willing to take the steps necessary to properly maintain a natural surface over the long term... which makes the decision to replace its mudpit with a future mudpit ridiculous in the extreme. xidiotx

But hey, it's their money.

[th0m]

Any progress on the actual model?

[BlueHenBoy]

Not until I get rnough suggestions. So far all I have is seating capacity(30,000), campus architecture, keep the wall, better score board, and model it after Princeton Stadium, Franklin Field, Naval Marine Corps Stadium and that place in Montana. :rotateh:

[th0m]

Lol, I don't know what more you'd need ;)

With 30k, I'd go with a compact steep two tiered stadium.

[BlueHenBoy]

Bowl? Angled Corners? Open Corners?

I really need help on what the exterior and concourse level should look like.

Been looking at these stadiums and found some good models, tell me the ones you like. All of these hold more than 30,000 but less than 35,000.
www.worldstadiums.com

Doyt L. Perry Stadium : http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/ohio/bowling_green_perry.shtml

Aggie Memorial :
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/new_mexico/las_cruces_aggie_memorial.shtml

Volkswagen Arena (w/o Roof) : http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/germany/niedersachsen/wolfsburg_vw_arena.shtml

Kagawa Stadium (w/o track): http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/asia/japan/shikoku/takamatsu_kagawa.shtml

Lokomotiv Stadion (Moskva) (good site lines?): http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/russia/moscow_lokomotiv.shtml
Estadio Brigadier: http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/south_america/argentina/santa_fe_brigadier_lopez.shtml

Johnny "Red" Floyd Stadium
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/tennessee/murfreesboro_floyd.shtml

Gerald J. Ford Stadium: http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/texas/university_park_ford.shtml

Dowdy Ficklen Stadium: http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/north_carolina/greenville_dowdy_ficklen.shtml

[th0m]

Hmm. Ford stadium is not steep enough. Floyd is at a better angle, yet looks too irregular with the partial 2nd tier. Ficklen is better, but I prefer enclosed stadiums. That Brigadier stadium is nice and steep! Reminds me of Real Madrid's Bernabeu (although it's about an 80k seater).

Lokomotiv and Wolfsburg are great stadiums with two steep tiers. Obviously there wouldn't be a roof though.

I certainly wouldn't want open corners. A bowl looks the smoothest, angled corners are fine too, but don't look so natural.

I'm thinking Neyland stadium, but with just the first tier, and then a bit smaller.

[BlueHenBoy]

The only thing I don't like about Bernabeu is the first tier. It isn't steep enough.

And European codes are much more leiniant than American codes.

[th0m]

It's very hard to compare most European stadiums to college stadiums. There hardly is such a thing as collegiate sports in Europe, therefore pretty much all venues are built for pro-clubs, and come with different needs. You won't really find a whole lot of stadiums with bleachers, meaning bigger stadiums for the same capacity. In some countries there is still a teracing culture, although this is also a dying breed with all the new stadiums being erected (think Emirates, Allianz, new Wembley). Italy just put the clamps on security after a member of the riot police got killed about a week ago.

Of course, most European stadiums come with roofs.

I myself am far more interested in the culture of expanding onto existing stadiums rather than tearing down and building a new one. English stadiums mostly come to mind (Trafford, Anfield, St. James Park). St. James park is ugly as hell because of the two sides that are twice as big as the rest, but it does look imposing when there...

College stadiums are just the masters of expanding, especially if you look at how, say, Tiger Stadium or Neyland expanded from Tub or Bridgeforth-like proportions to what they are today. Just amazing.

[BlueHenBoy]

I'm really a fan of the roof that stadiums have, that are just over the stands. Kind of like Lincoln Financial. I'm not getting anywhere on this project.

[henfan]

A new stadium would be great but I'd settle for something like this:

[BlueHenBoy]

Check out the Link:

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All new creations on last page.

[BlueHenBoy]

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q34/BwineLAX42/WestStandscopy.jpg
West Stands

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q34/BwineLAX42/UDFootball007copy.jpg

The endzone one is alright. I'm just new to photoshop. Pretend there would be a roof over the endzone like the West Stands.

[AppMan]

I think you need to go for this look.

http://smumustangs.cstv.com/facilities/ford-stadium.html

[BlueHenBoy]

Yea, I posted that exact stadium in the thread on the other sight. It's a bowl but than the corner seats aren't as good.