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Professor Chaos
November 6th, 2017, 01:15 PM
So ursus doesn't get mad at us again for not posting it. xlolx

Rank School Votes Prev
1 James Madison (9-0) 4050 (162) 1
2 Jacksonville State (8-1) 3830 3
3 Central Arkansas (8-1) 3692 4
4 Sam Houston State (8-1) 3427 5
5 North Dakota State (8-1) 3329 2
6 South Dakota State (7-2) 3260 10
7 Elon (8-1) 3027 7
8 Wofford (8-1) 2902 8
9 North Carolina A&T (9-0) 2772 9
10 South Dakota (7-2) 2278 6
11 Western Illinois (6-3) 2128 15
12 Stony Brook (7-2) 1977 14
13 Grambling State (8-1) 1911 13
14 Weber State (7-2) 1835 19
15 Southern Utah (7-2) 1636 17
16 Samford (6-3) 1615 16
17 Illinois State (6-3) 1391 12
18 New Hampshire (6-3) 1088 21
19 Eastern Washington (5-4) 1076 11
20 McNeese (7-2) 848 22
21 Furman (6-3) 692 23
22 Western Carolina (7-3) 665 24
23 Kennesaw State (8-1) 622 25
24 Northern Arizona (6-3) 581 18
25 UNI (5-4) 410 NR

Others: Nicholls (376) , Monmouth (338) , Richmond (258) , Montana (229) , Delaware (196) , Yale (63) , North Carolina Central (36) , Villanova (23) , Austin Peay (22) , Youngstown State (22) , Duquesne (11) , Eastern Illinois (9) , Dartmouth (9) , Howard (6) , Columbia (4) , Charleston Southern (4) , Sacramento State (2)

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs

93henfan
November 6th, 2017, 01:19 PM
Whose d*** is EWU sucking?

Daytripper
November 6th, 2017, 01:21 PM
Whose d*** is EWU sucking?

^^^^^^^^!

JHWCUGrad07
November 6th, 2017, 01:25 PM
Whose d*** is EWU sucking?

No Kidding!!

BNATION
November 6th, 2017, 01:27 PM
Dilley Dilley!

Whose d*** is EWU sucking?

jadmt
November 6th, 2017, 01:29 PM
LOL. exactly. Right now they are overrated in both polls. At least this one is giving SUSU some respect. I still don't see how NDSU can be ahead of the team that just beat them.

Professor Chaos
November 6th, 2017, 01:35 PM
LOL. exactly. Right now they are overrated in both polls. At least this one is giving SUSU some respect. I still don't see how NDSU can be ahead of the team that just beat them.
I'd suggest you open your eyes and look at the previous 8 games each team played.

JSUSoutherner
November 6th, 2017, 01:36 PM
Dilley Dilley!
lul.

F'N Hawks
November 6th, 2017, 01:38 PM
Whose d*** is EWU sucking?

They are getting Northern Iowa treatment. No matter how many games they lose, they cannot drop out.

ursus arctos horribilis
November 6th, 2017, 01:51 PM
So ursus doesn't get mad at us again for not posting it. xlolx

Rank School Votes Prev
1 James Madison (9-0) 4050 (162) 1
2 Jacksonville State (8-1) 3830 3
3 Central Arkansas (8-1) 3692 4
4 Sam Houston State (8-1) 3427 5
5 North Dakota State (8-1) 3329 2
6 South Dakota State (7-2) 3260 10
7 Elon (8-1) 3027 7
8 Wofford (8-1) 2902 8
9 North Carolina A&T (9-0) 2772 9
10 South Dakota (7-2) 2278 6
11 Western Illinois (6-3) 2128 15
12 Stony Brook (7-2) 1977 14
13 Grambling State (8-1) 1911 13
14 Weber State (7-2) 1835 19
15 Southern Utah (7-2) 1636 17
16 Samford (6-3) 1615 16
17 Illinois State (6-3) 1391 12
18 New Hampshire (6-3) 1088 21
19 Eastern Washington (5-4) 1076 11
20 McNeese (7-2) 848 22
21 Furman (6-3) 692 23
22 Western Carolina (7-3) 665 24
23 Kennesaw State (8-1) 622 25
24 Northern Arizona (6-3) 581 18
25 UNI (5-4) 410 NR

Others: Nicholls (376) , Monmouth (338) , Richmond (258) , Montana (229) , Delaware (196) , Yale (63) , North Carolina Central (36) , Villanova (23) , Austin Peay (22) , Youngstown State (22) , Duquesne (11) , Eastern Illinois (9) , Dartmouth (9) , Howard (6) , Columbia (4) , Charleston Southern (4) , Sacramento State (2)

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs

Good work PC. I was more surprised than anything but it needs to be here so appreciate the efforts.

centennial
November 6th, 2017, 02:00 PM
LOL. exactly. Right now they are overrated in both polls. At least this one is giving SUSU some respect. I still don't see how NDSU can be ahead of the team that just beat them.

NDSU also beat the 2 teams that beat SDSU. Now we have circular logic. I do have NDSU lower in my poll.

jadmt
November 6th, 2017, 02:05 PM
I'd suggest you open your eyes and look at the previous 8 games each team played.

seems the most recent game played was Saturday and I think SDSU won. Their two losses were to two teams that seemed to do ok against NDSU. look at the 3 most recent games and seems like SDSU is doing just as well or better. I would agree with you if say SDSU had lost 4 or 5 games against similar opponents and got a lucky win but that does not look like the case looks like they have played a good month of football and it was not a fluke.

Professor Chaos
November 6th, 2017, 02:11 PM
seems the most recent game played was Saturday and I think SDSU won. Their two losses were to two teams that seemed to do ok against NDSU. look at the 3 most recent games and seems like SDSU is doing just as well or better. I would agree with you if say SDSU had lost 4 or 5 games against similar opponents and got a lucky win but that does not look like the case looks like they have played a good month of football and it was not a fluke.
Or you can look at the whole year and see that NDSU is in the same conference and has a better overall and conference record (against almost the exact same conference schedule) despite the head-to-head loss. SDSU is playing great right now but if you've followed them at all earlier this year and over the last few years it never seems to last with them. They can prove me wrong given how tough their last two games are but I'm suspecting that they slip up in one of them... it's just kind of the SDSU way. When things are going well they find ways to make things difficult for themselves.

And if UNI did ok against NDSU then NDSU did ok against SDSU.

ursus arctos horribilis
November 6th, 2017, 02:38 PM
I always wonder why teams on individual ballots stacked next to each other don't have the winner on top due to thinking they are so similar...but even then as it gets later in the season you can not just go "Oh, they won so..." just not fair when you have damn near a season full of games to look at.

In the first 4 or 5 weeks yeah it makes a diffference but it means less and less as you go down the road to me.

nevadagriz
November 6th, 2017, 02:49 PM
At least this poll has uni in it!

ursus arctos horribilis
November 6th, 2017, 02:51 PM
At least this poll has uni in it!

It doesn't unless you are counting ORV?

BlueHenFromWA
November 6th, 2017, 02:58 PM
The STATS poll is a lousy poll done by the media. As much as it may seem otherwise, most of the media have no idea how to accurately evaluate a football team and their ability to play in the postseason.

wcugrad95
November 6th, 2017, 03:09 PM
The STATS poll is a lousy poll done by the media. As much as it may seem otherwise, most of the media have no idea how to accurately evaluate a football team and their ability to play in the postseason.

That being said, this still seems better than the Coaches Poll

JayMYou
November 6th, 2017, 05:06 PM
Whose d*** is EWU sucking?

IDK but whoever it is NDSU should probably think about asking for his number.

https://i.imgur.com/ayk1C2Z.gif

nevadagriz
November 6th, 2017, 05:33 PM
It doesn't unless you are counting ORV?
#25 URSUS

Redbird 4th & short
November 6th, 2017, 06:16 PM
So NDSU loses to now #6 SDSU on road and drops to #5, now with same 8-1 record as JSU, SHSU, UCA .. each of whom play cream puff schedules .. yet NDSU drops behind them ?? because they lost more recently ??

Then look at Elon who needed 2 OTs to beat 3-6 Towson at home .. Just not sure how that gets them #7, and NDSU's loss drops them to #5. Seriously ??? No MVFC team deserving to be in top 4 .. really ?


#2 JSU (8-1) has played the #41 SOS and is winning by average score of 32.1 to 16.7 .. 15 point margin against weak schedule

#3 UCA (8-1) has played the #43 SOS and is winning by average score of 36.0 to 19.9 .. 16 point margin against weak schedule

#4 SHSU (8-1) has played the #57 SOS and is winning by average score of 45.3 to 27.2 .. 18 point margin against very weak schedule

#5 NDSU (8-1) has played the #12 SOS and is winning by average score of 40.0 to 12.7 .. 27 point margin against toughest schedule - I guess a quarterfinal run, 5 Nattys, and a semi final run in 7 years doesn't carry as much weight as it used to

#7 Elon (8-1) has played the #22 SOS and is winning by average score of 24.4 to 24.8 ... -0.4 point margin against decent schedule, except that they are barely beating weak teams like: 3-6 Towson by 3 in 2 OT, 3-6 Albany by 6, 5-4 Charleston South by 2, 2-7 Rhode Island by 1, 2-7 W&M by 8 ... aren't top 8 seeds suppose to dominate most weak teams ?? For this, they are 2 spots behind NDSU ?

Those STATS guys are just as lazy and uninformed as the FCP Coaches Poll. AGS polls are clearly more informed group than either of the 2 official polls. Not hard to see, NDSU should still be #2 without doubt.

Maybe the pollsters don't realize this .. but when 2 very good teams play, one will win and one will lose. When the top 4 teams in MVFC all square off in final 3 weeks of season .. there will be 12 wins and there will be 12 losses ... no matter what.

JSUSoutherner
November 6th, 2017, 06:18 PM
So NDSU loses to now #6 SDSU on road and drops to #5, now with same 8-1 record as JSU, SHSU, UCA .. each of whom play cream puff schedules .. yet NDSU drops behind them ?? because they lost more recently ??

Then look at Elon who needed 2 OTs to beat 3-6 Towson at home .. Just not sure how that gets them #7, and NDSU's loss drops them to #5. Seriously ??? No MVFC team deserving to be in top 4 .. really ?


#2 JSU (8-1) has played the #41 SOS and is winning by average score of 32.1 to 16.7 .. 15 point margin against weak schedule

#3 UCA (8-1) has played the #43 SOS and is winning by average score of 36.0 to 19.9 .. 16 point margin against weak schedule

#4 SHSU (8-1) has played the #57 SOS and is winning by average score of 45.3 to 27.2 .. 18 point margin against very weak schedule

#5 NDSU (8-1) has played the #12 SOS and is winning by average score of 40.0 to 12.7 .. 27 point margin against toughest schedule - I guess a quarterfinal run, 5 Nattys, and a semi final run in 7 years doesn't carry as much weight as it used to

#7 Elon (8-1) has played the #22 SOS and is winning by average score of 24.4 to 24.8 ... -0.4 point margin against decent schedule, except that they are barely beating weak teams like: 3-6 Towson by 3 in 2 OT, 3-6 Albany by 6, 5-4 Charleston South by 2, 2-7 Rhode Island by 1, 2-7 W&M by 8 ... aren't top 8 seeds suppose to dominate most weak teams ?? For this, they are 2 spots behind NDSU ?

Those STATS guys are just as lazy and uninformed as the FCP Coaches Poll. AGS polls are clearly more informed group than either of the 2 official polls. Not hard to see, NDSU should still be #2 without doubt.

Maybe the pollsters don't realize this .. but when 2 very good teams play, one will win and one will lose. When the top 4 teams in MVFC all square off in final 3 weeks of season .. there will be 12 wins and there will be 12 losses ... no matter what.
You should write STATS an angry email with lots a of frowny face emojis.

Redbird 4th & short
November 6th, 2017, 07:02 PM
You should write STATS an angry email with lots a of frowny face emojis.

you make a very persuasive counter-argument !

JSUSoutherner
November 6th, 2017, 08:07 PM
you make a very persuasive counter-argument !
I'm not making an argument.

katss07
November 6th, 2017, 08:33 PM
No point in talking about this crap IMO. How in the world is JSU 2? Hope the Gamecocks get a 3 seed and the Kats get a 6 seed in the playoffs so we can beat them in Alabama again, IF they get past Furman, Samford, Kennesaw, ect.
in the second round.

Only poll that matters is the FCS Selection Committee's top 10, STATS has been broken a long time.

TheKingpin28
November 6th, 2017, 08:35 PM
No point in talking about this crap IMO. How in the world is JSU 2? Hope the Gamecocks get a 3 seed and the Kats get a 6 seed in the playoffs so we can beat them in Alabama again, IF they get past Furman, Samford, Kennesaw, ect.
in the second round.

Only poll that matters is the FCS Selection Committee's top 10, STATS has been broken a long time.

So what AGS produces every year? xlolx

JSUSoutherner
November 6th, 2017, 08:45 PM
So we can beat them in Alabama again.
I swear I've heard this somewhere before...

katss07
November 6th, 2017, 09:49 PM
[QUOTE=JSUSoutherner;2562389]I swear I've heard this somewhere before...[/QUOTE/]

Best 2 out of 3? I think the Kats would fare well in a matchup against Jax St.

JSUSoutherner
November 6th, 2017, 09:56 PM
[QUOTE=JSUSoutherner;2562389]I swear I've heard this somewhere before...[/QUOTE/]

Best 2 out of 3? I think the Kats would fare well in a matchup against Jax St.

I bet you do.

ursus arctos horribilis
November 6th, 2017, 10:57 PM
#25 URSUS

Huh? 25 Norther Iowa. What am I missing here?

14 Weber State (7-2) 1835 19
15 Southern Utah (7-2) 1636 17
16 Samford (6-3) 1615 16
17 Illinois State (6-3) 1391 12
18 New Hampshire (6-3) 1088 21
19 Eastern Washington (5-4) 1076 11
20 McNeese (7-2) 848 22
21 Furman (6-3) 692 23
22 Western Carolina (7-3) 665 24
23 Kennesaw State (8-1) 622 25
24 Northern Arizona (6-3) 581 18
25 UNI (5-4) 410 NR

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?198521-STATS-Poll-(11-6)&p=2562017&viewfull=1#post2562017

and don't yell my name like that I'm right here man.

ursus arctos horribilis
November 6th, 2017, 11:01 PM
The next guy that quotes without fixing it is gonna pay the price....:)

ursus arctos horribilis
November 6th, 2017, 11:02 PM
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TheKingpin28
November 6th, 2017, 11:07 PM
The next guy that quotes without fixing it is gonna pay the price....:).....which is

http://i.imgur.com/8NOVI8d.jpg

JSUSoutherner
November 6th, 2017, 11:07 PM
[QUOTE=katss07;2562429]The next guy that quotes without fixing it is gonna pay the price....:)

What are you talking about?

ursus arctos horribilis
November 6th, 2017, 11:18 PM
JSU is gonna have a little story to tell when he gets back. xlolx

Hope I don't forget to take him out of the pen before I hit the rack tonight.

JSUSoutherner
November 6th, 2017, 11:33 PM
JSU is gonna have a little story to tell when he gets back. xlolx

Hope I don't forget to take him out of the pen before I hit the rack tonight.
15 minutes of infamy?

ursus arctos horribilis
November 6th, 2017, 11:35 PM
15 minutes of infamy?

xlolx

I'll train you yet. Look at that wonderful work you did there with the quote.

BisonFan02
November 6th, 2017, 11:36 PM
JSU is gonna have a little story to tell when he gets back. xlolx

Hope I don't forget to take him out of the pen before I hit the rack tonight.

Well ****.....way to go Ralph.

#slipperyslope :D

JSUSoutherner
November 6th, 2017, 11:38 PM
[QUOTE=ursus arctos horribilis;2562505]xlolx

Well ****.....way to go Ralph.

#slipperyslope :D

Who's Ralph?

ursus arctos horribilis
November 6th, 2017, 11:41 PM
Well ****.....way to go Ralph.

#slipperyslope :D

I will pour dish soap all over that slope you back talking SOB!

JSUSoutherner
November 7th, 2017, 12:15 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/17d6dbf16f0615aea80112e891d92677.jpgwithin a quote...

Quoteception

Redbird 4th & short
November 7th, 2017, 08:57 AM
I'm not making an argument.
good chat

Sammy94
November 7th, 2017, 09:04 AM
I swear I've heard this somewhere before...


You've seen it before.