Whats the problem?

[SU Jag]

Over the past few weeks talk-radio has been on fire about the Super Bowl. Blacks were excited about the fact that during black history , the nation would get a chance to see history made. But a large portion of the white population has been pissed off about it. Whats the deal yall educate me? No B.S, no racism, just educate ya boy!:nod:

[SU Jag]

Any questions refer to this post:

You'd be wrong! Dungy has said over and over again how proud he was to become one of the first to play for the Super Bowl, and so did Smith. Ebony, is doing a great article on both of these coaches, both said that they felt like it was inportant for you black kids to see them in the big game so it influence them in a positive way. If they dont have a problem with it, why do you? I could really care less who won the Super Bowl, just the fact the two black men stood at the top of the best division of football in the world was enough for most black folks! Both talked about how they thought this day would never come, because black men traditionally weren't hired as head coaches in the NFL. Coutless amount of whites were fired and rehired while qualified blacks were passed over, and this aint the 60s we're talking about, we're talkin a few years ago. Smith credited the Rooney Rule for helpling him get hired, if it wasnt for the rule, how many black coaches would we have today? I so happy and so grateful that I was able to witness Sunday's game expecially during Black History Month.

Which was a response to this post:

I'd wager Dungy is more than a little sick of hearing about his accomplishments solely in terms of his race. Should it really be this big of a surprise? He deserves recognition for being a great football coach, not because he is both a great coach and black. Mostly I think the situation was seen as a nice opportunity for the NFL and white fans to feel good about themselves, as if exorcising guilt from past misdeeds.

[citdog]

It was a good story until it was run into the ground! I don't think most people consider the NFL to be a social experiment.

[blackfordpu]

The fact that he is black should be a side story, mentioned once and then let go. The man accomplished something very hard to do and should be rewarded for his work ethic, not ethnicity.

[SU Jag]

The fact that he is black should be a side story, mentioned once and then let go. The man accomplished something very hard to do and should be rewarded for his work ethic, not ethnicity.

I agree! But he was never rewarded for being black, he was rewarded because of what he had to endure to get where he got. He had to jump through more hoops and hear more no's than he would have if he were white. Can yall see the significance in that?

[citdog]

Tony Dungy has been a head coach for a long time. I am happy his team won. The End!

[BigApp]

Agreed!

[SU Jag]

Tony Dungy has been a head coach for a long time. I am happy his team won. The End!


I guess the question is why do whites(or a segment of whites) have a problem with black folks celebrating what happened?

[citdog]

Is the life of any person black or white bettered one bit because some black guy won a football game? GEEZ this is just like the OJ Prize!

[AppGuy04]

It is an accomplishment, yes, but one that bears mentioning a couple times at most.

It would be similar to whites exhaulting about Steve Nash(white) winning the NBA MVP(a league predominantly black) and cramming it down your throw just because of the color of his skin.

It is a great accomplishment, but his color means jack to me, he is a coach, black or white, doesn't matter to me

[SU Jag]

Is the life of any person black or white bettered one bit because some black guy won a football game? GEEZ this is just like the OJ Prize!

You have no idea, what that meant to coaches past and people past who saw what happened Sunday, no idea. You have no idea what that meant to my grandfather(who was a coach) and my older family members aswell as blacks across the country. These people live through era when what happened Sunday wasnt possible. It meant everything. The significance meant everything. It has been long said the negroes didnt have the mental capacity to coach, and the it would be a disgrace to have a negro as the face of your team, and sadly those were not comments of the 60s, those were comments of the 90s. Both Smith and Dungy said that they knew the significance of what they did, and how it touched blacks. Both even said that the true significance hasnt even hit them yet. To see former coaches like Eddie Robinson, my grandfather, and ect. in tears because of what happened Sunday was priceless.

But you already knew that right?:rolleyes: Yeah go on tell us about how many black freinds you have. :rolleyes: In the words of Bill Cosby " if you know how many black friends you have, you're racist as all get out, what do you do, line them up and count em?:rolleyes:

[Panther88]

It is an accomplishment, yes, but one that bears mentioning a couple times at most.

It would be similar to whites exhaulting about Steve Nash(white) winning the NBA MVP(a league predominantly black) and cramming it down your throw just because of the color of his skin.

It is a great accomplishment, but his color means jack to me, he is a coach, black or white, doesn't matter to me

Yeah, this is the type of stupid response that we don't need in here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^. It makes entirely too damn much sense and wreaks w/ intellect.

Where are the FCS rednecks/cone-heads lol/racists/bigots @? I wanna' hear from them. :)

[TexasTerror]

Comes down to the media making a bigger issue of it then Dungy or Smith did or wanted to...

Obviously it is great that it occurred and shows how the league is coming more diverse. Nothing wrong with that, but the media blows things out of proportion. Dungy and Smith knew as much...

I think the Doug Williams situation comes to mind...good Nick Deriso blog about Williams here...


http://www.thenewsstar.com/news/blogs/blog3/2007/02/actually-he-didnt-ask-that.html

[SU Jag]

It is an accomplishment, yes, but one that bears mentioning a couple times at most.

It would be similar to whites exhaulting about Steve Nash(white) winning the NBA MVP(a league predominantly black) and cramming it down your throw just because of the color of his skin.

It is a great accomplishment, but his color means jack to me, he is a coach, black or white, doesn't matter to me

But at the same time, you're not black. If a woman accomplished a great feat, something that they have been traditionally shut out of then it would be a big deal for women. You and I aren't Women's Rights Activist nor are we women so we would have a hard time trying to comprehend the significance and how women felt about....get my drift. True, Steve Nash won the MVP but white were never excluded from the NBA. Because of the stereotypes and racism blacks were excluded from the NFL. And this is as recent as a few years back. Why do you think the Rooney Rule came into effect! Comparing Steve Nash to this event is nowhere near the same thing.

[SU Jag]

Comes down to the media making a bigger issue of it then Dungy or Smith did or wanted to...

Obviously it is great that it occurred and shows how the league is coming more diverse. Nothing wrong with that, but the media blows things out of proportion. Dungy and Smith knew as much...

I think the Doug Williams situation comes to mind...good Nick Deriso blog about Williams here...


http://www.thenewsstar.com/news/blogs/blog3/2007/02/actually-he-didnt-ask-that.html


I read that Tex, can you beleive that dumb arse reporter:nonono2: I was so happy that noone asked Dungy and Smith that this past week.:nonono2:

[Peems]

But at the same time, you're not black. If a woman accomplished a great feat, something that they have been traditionally shut out of then it would be a big deal for women. You and I aren't Women's Rights Activist nor are we women so we would have a hard time trying to comprehend the significance and how women felt about....get my drift. True, Steve Nash won the MVP but white were never excluded from the NBA. Because of the stereotypes and racism blacks were excluded from the NFL. And this is as recent as a few years back. Why do you think the Rooney Rule came into effect! Comparing Steve Nash to this event is nowhere near the same thing.

i totally agree with SU Jag on this one. Nash winning the MVP and Dungy winning the superbowl are two totally different things, and anyway even if they were alike Nash isnt the first white guy to win the MVP. Though maybe the first Canadian:smiley_wi

[Grizzaholic]

I am going to get flamed but it is ok. I know I am not a racist so here goes.

If I, me being white, started up a television network called 'White Entertainment Network' I would be a racist. But BET isn't? If I started up a magazine for white people I would be racist. But, I think it is Ebony, isn't?

Just flame away

[Peems]

I am going to get flamed but it is ok. I know I am not a racist so here goes.

If I, me being white, started up a television network called 'White Entertainment Network' I would be a racist. But BET isn't? If I started up a magazine for white people I would be racist. But, I think it is Ebony, isn't?

Just flame away

im not going to flame you, but i will point out the differences again. Before things like BET or Ebony or any of that, all entertainment was practically "white entertainment network." Blacks had to go through much much more discrimination and hardships than most whites just to get close to equality. It just comes down to, IMO, what whites already had with "white privilege" for their entire history in the US, and what Blacks have had to work to just get things like Ebony going.

[AppGuy04]

But at the same time, you're not black. If a woman accomplished a great feat, something that they have been traditionally shut out of then it would be a big deal for women. You and I aren't Women's Rights Activist nor are we women so we would have a hard time trying to comprehend the significance and how women felt about....get my drift. True, Steve Nash won the MVP but white were never excluded from the NBA. Because of the stereotypes and racism blacks were excluded from the NFL. And this is as recent as a few years back. Why do you think the Rooney Rule came into effect! Comparing Steve Nash to this event is nowhere near the same thing.

I only used Steve Nash as an example b/c the NBA is predominantly black, much like the coaching ranks of the NFL, no more, no less

[SU Jag]

I am going to get flamed but it is ok. I know I am not a racist so here goes.

If I, me being white, started up a television network called 'White Entertainment Network' I would be a racist. But BET isn't? If I started up a magazine for white people I would be racist. But, I think it is Ebony, isn't?

Just flame away


Look at the demograhics. Lets take BET first. Most television stations dont broadcast shows that target black americans. Generally speaking, we didnt watch M.A.S.H nor do we watch "My name is Earl". Shows like Girlfriends and The WIRE are only shown on one of two station BET or UPN. Thats not racism thats smart marketing. As a mainstreem television station why would I target a minority? BET shows things pertaining to black Americans that you will not see anywhere, period. The same with JET, and EBONY. Most blacks dont read PEOPLE magazine, we cant relate to 99% of the stuff in there! Thats why you have these things.

I hope that I helped!:thumbsup:

[SU Jag]

im not going to flame you, but i will point out the differences again. Before things like BET or Ebony or any of that, all entertainment was practically "white entertainment network." Blacks had to go through much much more discrimination and hardships than most whites just to get close to equality. It just comes down to, IMO, what whites already had with "white privilege" for their entire history in the US, and what Blacks have had to work to just get things like Ebony going.

That dude hit the nail dead on!

[Panther88]

im not going to flame you, but i will point out the differences again. Before things like BET or Ebony or any of that, all entertainment was practically "white entertainment network." Blacks had to go through much much more discrimination and hardships than most whites just to get close to equality. It just comes down to, IMO, what whites already had with "white privilege" for their entire history in the US, and what Blacks have had to work to just get things like Ebony going.

Very good.:nod:

[Grizzaholic]

I know the world isn't perfect but saying congratulations 'Bob' you are the first white guy to win this, and congratulations 'Joe" you are the first black guy to win that, doesn't that keep everybody seperated and in different classes? Along with keeping racisim alive?? Instead of just saying congrats bob for winning the coveted this or congrats joe for winning the coveted that?

Or am I just being racist because I used the white guy first and the black guy second.

[SU Jag]

I know the world isn't perfect but saying congratulations 'Bob' you are the first white guy to win this, and congratulations 'Joe" you are the first black guy to win that, doesn't that keep everybody seperated and in different classes? Along with keeping racisim alive?? Instead of just saying congrats bob for winning the coveted this or congrats joe for winning the coveted that?

Or am I just being racist because I used the white guy first and the black guy second.

No, but you have to remember that blacks had to travel a road that whites never did. Go back and read a few of my post. I seriously doubt that you're a racist, but I think that this topic is getting your motor turned, which is a good thing.

Slavery
Segregation
Jim Crowe Laws
The Good ole' Boys Network
and ect.

[Peems]

I know the world isn't perfect but saying congratulations 'Bob' you are the first white guy to win this, and congratulations 'Joe" you are the first black guy to win that, doesn't that keep everybody seperated and in different classes? Along with keeping racisim alive?? Instead of just saying congrats bob for winning the coveted this or congrats joe for winning the coveted that?

Or am I just being racist because I used the white guy first and the black guy second.

in a perfect world, it would just be congrats joe and congrats bob. But we are not in a perfect world and as long as racism and inequality are still around, race issues will still be brought up.

[Peems]

No, but you have to remember that blacks had to travel a road that whites never did. Go back and read a few of my post. I seriously doubt that you're a racist, but I think that this topic is getting your motor turned, which is a good thing.

Slavery
Segregation
Jim Crowe Laws
The Good ole' Boys Network
and ect.

i agree with SU Jag again(no surprise:thumbsup:) i dont think you are a racist, but the best way to learn is to ask questions.

[Grizzaholic]

No, but you have to remember that blacks had to travel a road that whites never did. Go back and read a few of my post. I seriously doubt that you're a racist, but I think that this topic is getting your motor turned, which is a good thing.

Slavery
Segregation
Jim Crowe Laws
The Good ole' Boys Network
and ect.

Well, here is the thing. I could care less if one guy does this or that guy does that. I don't know about you but I quit watching sports shows and listening to sports talk on the radio the week, week and a half before the Super Bowl. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy for Smith and Dungy, but I got completely fed up with all of the race talk on every damn channel before the game. I understand it is a big deal but to have it on every sportscenter, game center, nfl discussion for 2 weeks was a little much. Me personally, I think it took something away from super sunday. I did not mean that in a detramental (sp) or racist way but to flood a great gameday/week experience with talk of race over and over ruined it a little for me. Instead of showing highlights, talking to players (and not about race which was done way too much), and the like, the newscasters asked the same race questions to everybody they could find to talk to.

It was similar, I said similar not same, to the BCS bowl game between Florida and Ohio State. That went on for a month. I don't think I would have watched the game if that had happened for a month prior to the super bowl.


I am rambling now.

[SU Jag]

Well, here is the thing. I could care less if one guy does this or that guy does that. I don't know about you but I quit watching sports shows and listening to sports talk on the radio the week, week and a half before the Super Bowl. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy for Smith and Dungy, but I got completely fed up with all of the race talk on every damn channel before the game. I understand it is a big deal but to have it on every sportscenter, game center, nfl discussion for 2 weeks was a little much. Me personally, I think it took something away from super sunday. I did not mean that in a detramental (sp) or racist way but to flood a great gameday/week experience with talk of race over and over ruined it a little for me. Instead of showing highlights, talking to players (and not about race which was done way too much), and the like, the newscasters asked the same race questions to everybody they could find to talk to.

It was similar, I said similar not same, to the BCS bowl game between Florida and Ohio State. That went on for a month. I don't think I would have watched the game if that had happened for a month prior to the super bowl.


I am rambling now.

No, my white friends wasnt even aware that a black man had never coached in the Super Bowl, neither did they care. That doesnt make them racist, it just shows you how diverse America is. Whats a big deal for some means nothers to others. But to truly appreciate the diversity, I feel that we must try to learn about other American cultures besides our own:thumbsup:

[NE MT GRIZZ]

No, but you have to remember that blacks had to travel a road that whites never did. Go back and read a few of my post. I seriously doubt that you're a racist, but I think that this topic is getting your motor turned, which is a good thing.t.


SU,

Whites did go down that road while we were under the rule of England, our founding fathers were meggots in the eyes of the ENglish Crown.

What they went through was nowhere near the length or severity that blacks went through.

All Americans have gone through rough times. Getting thru those times is what makes us strong and the best nation in the world. We should all be proud of all the accomplishments we have made during the last
231 years.

[lizrdgizrd]

I think it says something important about us that we see Tony Dungy win the Super Bowl and don't immediately think about him being black. I thought what was more incredible was that he made a big effort to point out that he and Lovie both coached their teams according to Christian principles. I like to see good guys do well. Both Lovie and Tony are good guys who have done well and the fact that they're both black has no bearing on my opinion of them.

[andy7171]

Over the past few weeks talk-radio has been on fire about the Super Bowl. Blacks were excited about the fact that during black history , the nation would get a chance to see history made. But a large portion of the white population has been pissed off about it. Whats the deal yall educate me? No B.S, no racism, just educate ya boy!:nod:
Did you just make this up? I have heard nothing but elation about both coaches accomplishments.

[HIU 93]

im not going to flame you, but i will point out the differences again. Before things like BET or Ebony or any of that, all entertainment was practically "white entertainment network." Blacks had to go through much much more discrimination and hardships than most whites just to get close to equality. It just comes down to, IMO, what whites already had with "white privilege" for their entire history in the US, and what Blacks have had to work to just get things like Ebony going.

There you go again making sense!xlolx

You know the AGS folk don't like it when you make sense!xlolx

[NE MT GRIZZ]

im not going to flame you, but i will point out the differences again. Before things like BET or Ebony or any of that, all entertainment was practically "white entertainment network." Blacks had to go through much much more discrimination and hardships than most whites just to get close to equality. It just comes down to, IMO, what whites already had with "white privilege" for their entire history in the US, and what Blacks have had to work to just get things like Ebony going.


I heard a comedian talk about this:
White people are going to start their own movie award show in response to the Black Movie Awards. Oh, wait they already do, its called the Oscars.

[SU Jag]

I think it says something important about us that we see Tony Dungy win the Super Bowl and don't immediately think about him being black. I thought what was more incredible was that he made a big effort to point out that he and Lovie both coached their teams according to Christian principles. I like to see good guys do well. Both Lovie and Tony are good guys who have done well and the fact that they're both black has no bearing on my opinion of them.

That was what the "Dream" was about!

Post of the year!:nod: :nod:

[SU Jag]

Did you just make this up? I have heard nothing but elation about both coaches accomplishments.

It all started when the head of the BCA was on a local radio station here, and stated the fact that Smith and Dungy were the first to get to the big game. Well the host went on a rant, on how making this a big deal was an insult to black people and how the coaches wouldnt approve and yadda, yadda. Well this radion station's callers are anout 85-90% white, but that day most of the callers were black and all were trying to explain the significance. Well it was all for not because the next day he went on a rant again, and about 8/10 of his white callers agreed with him, despite listening to blacks explain and explain all day, the day before. It was a hot topic on talk radio down here all week last week. People even made racist comments like "they should name it the Soul Bowl" and other lil comments like that.

[patssle]

Blacks make up 12% of the population in the United States. There is a reason why most of the stuff isn't geared towards blacks.

[SU Jag]

Blacks make up 12% of the population in the United States. There is a reason why most of the stuff isn't geared towards blacks.

Yeah, thats what I said go back and read the post!:nod:

[Panther88]

I heard a comedian talk about this:
White people are going to start their own movie award show in response to the Black Movie Awards. Oh, wait they already do, its called the Oscars.

There were certain places that blacks weren't allowed to go. :( The oscars is (was) one of those. How recent did the door slightly "open?"

[Grizzaholic]

Blacks make up 12% of the population in the United States. There is a reason why most of the stuff isn't geared towards blacks.

Don't take this the wrong way but do you have census figures for all of the races in the United States?

[Mountaineer]

Don't take this the wrong way but do you have census figures for all of the races in the United States?

Try this:

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFFacts?_event=&geo_id=01000US&_lang=en&_sse=on

[Grizzaholic]

Thanks

[JALMOND]

I must repeat the title of this topic once again, What's the Problem? SU, your first post mentioned about no racism, just opinions, yet for every response, you throw in the race card. Do you want us to view both Dungy and Smith as great coaches (as all coaches who participate in Super Bowls past are), or do you just want us to view them as great black coaches? I've always had high admiration for Dungy and all his accomplishments, and his Super Bowl win was just the exclamation point, in my opinion. I also have the same admiration for Shula and Noll, two white coaches. The same token, I believe that Ray Rhodes and Art Shell have done nothing to insure a spot for them as an NFL coach, much along the lines of Spurrier and Nick Sabin.

Blacks have been discriminated against and opportunities have been withheld during the course of American history, but so too have the Irish (early 1900's), the Germans (in the 1940's), the Chinese (in the late 1800's), the Japanese (in the 1940's), and the mid-Eastern Americans today (since 9/11). Once we all as Americans can look past the appearance of a person, and evalute them solely on the basis of character, will the Dream of Dr. King be realized. To evalute what both Dungy and Smith have accomplished solely on the basis of race is wrong and should be evaluated on a level plane with other Super Bowl coaches. Only then would we as football fans see that both Dungy and Smith are not only great black coaches, but, most importantly, great NFL coaches.

[citdog]

Blacks make up 12% of the population in the United States.

But what percentage of jail inmates? Parolees?

[GoldandBlack]

But what percentage of jail inmates? Parolees?

Did'ja ever get the feeling that CitDog likes to throw a rock in the pot on occasion just to see how far the splash will go?:nod:

[AZGrizFan]

It is an accomplishment, yes, but one that bears mentioning a couple times at most.

It would be similar to whites exhaulting about Steve Nash(white) winning the NBA MVP(a league predominantly black) and cramming it down your throw just because of the color of his skin.

It is a great accomplishment, but his color means jack to me, he is a coach, black or white, doesn't matter to me

Steve Nash is white???? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I thought that award only went to black men......:eyebrow: :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :eyebrow:

[SU Jag]

But what percentage of jail inmates? Parolees?

Why dont you ask one of the 70 black friends you have:rolleyes:

[citdog]

Because they would be as mystified as I am by the high number. It's a shame and something that should be addressed on the national level. I would like to hear one of the Pres. hopefuls address this, and why doesn't the NAACP make this an issue instead of butting in on the internal politics of States?

[andy7171]

It all started when the head of the BCA was on a local radio station here, and stated the fact that Smith and Dungy were the first to get to the big game. Well the host went on a rant, on how making this a big deal was an insult to black people and how the coaches wouldnt approve and yadda, yadda. Well this radion station's callers are anout 85-90% white, but that day most of the callers were black and all were trying to explain the significance. Well it was all for not because the next day he went on a rant again, and about 8/10 of his white callers agreed with him, despite listening to blacks explain and explain all day, the day before. It was a hot topic on talk radio down here all week last week.
BCA?

People even made racist comments like "they should name it the Soul Bowl" and other lil comments like that.
This is obsurd. How would something like this get out on the air?

[Cleets]

Is the life of any person black or white bettered one bit because some black guy won a football game? GEEZ this is just like the OJ Prize!

to your question:
Hmmmm... I think the answer is yes (maybe) and it's up for discussion..


But I don't understand why you would feel the need to bring up OJ, it's not relevant to the question... it's just a personal dig with heated racial implications.. (Why do that..?)



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[GoldandBlack]

BCA?

This is obsurd. How would something like this get out on the air?

Freedom of stupidity.:rolleyes:

[Cleets]

But what percentage of jail inmates? Parolees?


Interesting question: because the University of Texas (in Austin) did a study that argued that a Black man was less likely to get a fair trial in this country and also showed that Blacks when committing the same crimes as whites served longer sentences... (for some reason...?)

Any thoughts on that...?

No OJ comments please, lets try to stay on topic... it wasnt about high-profile trials it was about the every day workings of our legal system..

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[GoldandBlack]

Interesting question: because the University of Texas (in Austin) did a study that argued that a Black man was less likely to get a fair trial in this country and also showed that Blacks when committing the same crimes as whites served longer sentences... (for some reason...?)

Any thoughts on that...?

No OJ comments please, lets try to stay on topic... it wasnt about high-profile trials it was about the every day workings of our legal system..

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One possibility - lower average income = lower capability of hiring better-qualified legal counsel

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a9/Income_Race.jpg/300px-Income_Race.jpg

This chart shows the median household income for the four largest racial groups in the United States.

SOURCE: US Census Bureau, 2004

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States#Race

[SU Jag]

Because they would be as mystified as I am by the high number. It's a shame and something that should be addressed on the national level. I would like to hear one of the Pres. hopefuls address this, and why doesn't the NAACP make this an issue instead of butting in on the internal politics of States?


Thats those are issues that the NAACP is addressing, but you already knew that right:rolleyes:

[citdog]

Thats those are issues that the NAACP is addressing, but you already knew that right:rolleyes:

Well Jag, they could have fooled me. The only time I read about them seems to be whenever the Flag of the former Confederacy is discussed. They are quick to say what they are against, but what are they for? Focus on things that improve the day to day quality of life, not symbols. Focus on education to make it unnecessary for a legal defense fund. I don't know I mean this in a very sincere way.:twocents:

[SU Jag]

Well Jag, they could have fooled me. The only time I read about them seems to be whenever the Flag of the former Confederacy is discussed. They are quick to say what they are against, but what are they for? Focus on things that improve the day to day quality of life, not symbols. Focus on education to make it unnecessary for a legal defense fund. I don't know I mean this in a very sincere way.:twocents:

Are you a member? No, you're not, so you dont know any of our agendas do you? I'm a member and I have been since 2000. The Confederate flag debate is way down on our most important things list. The only time that you "read" about the NAACP is when the media wants you to!xcoffeex

[GoldandBlack]

Are you a member? No, you're not, so you dont know any of our agendas do you? I'm a member and I have been since 2000. The Confederate flag debate is way down on our most important things list. The only time that you "read" about the NAACP is when the media wants you to!xcoffeex

Now, ain't that true for a lot of issues!:mad:

[spelunker64]

So do we have to wait for Norm Chow to win it so the Asian community can celebrate too?

[B&G]

To get back to the original question... I think it wasn't so much hating on a black man achieving something special. It probably had more to do with media saturation. I think human nature causes people to get fed up with something that you hear over and over. And the media has a knack for beating something into the ground.

[lizrdgizrd]

And the media has a knack for beating something into the ground.
!Understatement Alert!