IVY FOOTBALL IN THE NFL

[World]

http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/news/2017/8/24/-ivyfootball-in-the-nfl.aspx

[citdog]

Nobody cares about the ivy league.

[World]

Nobody cares about the ivy league.

ha!

[PantherRob82]

Nobody cares about the ivy league.

I don't know. Ranking their top team between 21-25 to help finish my poll vote towards the end of the season is useful. :)

[TheRevSFA]

It must be tough on those players to go from a middle school length schedule to a NFL one. No wonder Fitzpatrick sucked ass

[BisonFan02]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forumdisplay.php?12-The-Ins-amp-Outs-of-FCS

[MTfan4life]

http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/news/2017/8/24/-ivyfootball-in-the-nfl.aspx

Smack talk aside, I think you're in need of a lesson in usage of this website that they just didn't seem to offer at Princeton/Lehigh/Stanford/Illinois State/etc. Here, I'll help you out. You see this picture of basically the main page:

https://imgur.com/a/b8Fzmhttps://imgur.com/a/b8Fzmhttps://i.imgur.com/DGQSeqg.jpg

Right there above "FCS Smack" and below "AGS Tailgating, Meet Ups, Pics, & FCS Potpourri" is a thread titled "The Ins & Outs of FCS." If you look inside the thread you'll see this description:

This board is for talk about scholarship offers, incoming recruits, recruit classes & rankings, former FCS participants and post-FCS all-star games/pro draft/pro performance/pro days/pro potential talk.

Note the former FCS participants aspect of that description. So, when wanting to discuss Ivy League alumni in the NFL, that is where you should start your thread. Sure, east coast and west coast combined elite education will help in many regards, but I guess some things still don't come easy. So, take this as a free lesson from a man educated from a landlocked region! You'll get there one day. xthumbsupx

[BisonTru]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/mEtSQlxqBtWWA/giphy.gif

[Serpentor]

THREADJACK!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5QbcnJHKK8

[Ivytalk]

Nobody cares about the ivy league.
Except the people you work for.

[Ivytalk]

It must be tough on those players to go from a middle school length schedule to a NFL one. No wonder Fitzpatrick sucked ass
Pretty talk, Piney Woods padre.

[Son of Eli]

Nobody cares about the ivy league.


Except the people you work for.


I doubt he works.

[JSUSoutherner]

Except the people you work for.
Nope. Villanova. Try again.

[Bison56]

What about the NFL bias against the Ivy League?

[Serpentor]

What is with these threads all of a sudden? Did AGS end up on some Ivy League-oriented Reddit or 4chan discussion?

[Colgate Raider Redux]

I've been aware of the Ivy-NFL connection since I was in high school 50 years ago. I went to a high school with a regular pipeline to Yale. I remember two of these Yale players making a splash in the NFL, Chuck Mercrin, mosrly with the New York Giants and Mike Pyle, exclusively with the Chicago Bears.

Excuse my slapsrick...but,... is this ancient Ancient history ?

[citdog]

I doubt he works.

It's not my fault that your football is irrelevant. Nice attempt at a personal attack. If you mattered I would return the notion. You don't so I needn't bother.

[kdinva]

I remember two of these Yale players making a slash in the NFL, Chuck Mercian, mosrly with the New York Giants and Mike Pyle, exclusively with the Chicago Bears.


too bad Calvin Hill was a bust..... xpeacex

[bulldog10jw]

too bad Calvin Hill was a bust..... xpeacex

Gary Fencik - All Pro - Chicago Bears (part of the Super Bowl shuffle)

[Go...gate]

Just a few of many Ivy players who made their mark in the NFL - Mike Pyle (Yale and Bears), Karl Chandler (Princeton and Giants) Hank Bjorkuland (Princeton and Jets), Reggie Williams (Dartmouth and Bengals), Marcellus Wiley (Columbia and Bills), Marty Domres (Columbia and Chargers/Colts), Ed Marinaro (Cornell and Vikings).....

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Ivy Football is far from irrelevant. It comprises the foundations of the sport.

[TheRevSFA]

Just a few of many Ivy players who made their mark in the NFL - Mike Pyle (Yale and Bears), Karl Chandler (Princeton and Giants) Hank Bjorkuland (Princeton and Jets), Reggie Williams (Dartmouth and Bengals), Marcellus Wiley (Columbia and Bills), Marty Domres (Columbia and Chargers/Colts), Ed Marinaro (Cornell and Vikings).....

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Ivy Football is far from irrelevant. It comprises the foundations of the sport.

Ivy Football is currently irrelevant as they don't want to play with the rest of D1

[World]

Ivy Football is currently irrelevant as they don't want to play with the rest of D1

So what are you saying?

When Ivy League teams play other Div I schools in non-league play, those Div I schools are really not Div I schools?

[Serpentor]

Ivy Football is far from irrelevant. It comprises the foundations of the sport.

Obviously it would be dumb to ignore the Ivy League's role in the foundation of football. Our argument is once they segregated themselves from the rest of D1 football, they became irrelevant. Yes some talented players are going to slip through to the pros every now and then, but it's the exception, not the rule.

[citdog]

So what are you saying?

When Ivy League teams play other Div I schools in non-league play, those Div I schools are really not Div I schools?

You play so MANY!

[World]

You play so MANY!

Say, tell us again about Div II Newberry College?

Who has lowered themselves from Div I to play them this year?

[The Pud]

What is with these threads all of a sudden? Did AGS end up on some Ivy League-oriented Reddit or 4chan discussion?


huh? what the heck is 4chan? Asian poster?

[Son of Eli]

You play so MANY!


Yale is scheduled to play 3 OOC Division I schools this year, while The Citadel is scheduled to play only 2 OOC Division 1 schools.

[Bison56]

Yale is scheduled to play 3 OOC Division I schools this year, while The Citadel is scheduled to play only 2 OOC Division 1 schools.

https://theconsultingdetectivesblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/tumblr_inline_moyythnmh61qz4rgp.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiI_evk87jWAhVir1QKHe7cD4MQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconsultingdetectivesblog.com% 2F2013%2F12%2F28%2Fwhy-have-we-all-become-intellectual-tv-snobs%2F&psig=AFQjCNFL-A3-atNO9sdoLIqPXXQ5FBnVTQ&ust=1506173505157260)

[citdog]

Yale is scheduled to play 3 OOC Division I schools this year, while The Citadel is scheduled to play only 2 OOC Division 1 schools.

Newberry would beat Yale. Hell Newberry has more talent than an All Star team from your league.

[citdog]

Say, tell us again about Div II Newberry College?

Who has lowered themselves from Div I to play them this year?

We lowered ourselves to play Princeton. Newberry is a school we have played for a LONG time. They would win the cute little ivy league AND the patsy league where all of your "big" OOC games come from.

[citdog]

You ivy league boys have more important things than football. Like trying to figure out which gender you are, where to pee, condoning violence and destruction by staff members, halloween costumes, what the word 'master' means, and inviting cross dressing traitors to be "fellows" at your schools.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Except the people you work for.

He might be surprised but I think the Ivy League has had as much NFL alumni the last 5 years as the SoCon. Last I checked the Ivy league has 11 alumni on NFL rosters while SoCon has just 10.

[Son of Eli]

Newberry would beat Yale. Hell Newberry has more talent than an All Star team from your league.


Massey Ratings strongly disagrees with you, but why let facts get in the way of your biased opinions.

https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=295489&t0=Newberry&h=0&s1=295489&t1=Yale

[Son of Eli]

We lowered ourselves to play Princeton. Newberry is a school we have played for a LONG time. They would win the cute little ivy league AND the patsy league where all of your "big" OOC games come from.


Massey Ratings also predicts Princeton would beat The Citadel.


https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=295489&t0=Citadel&h=0&s1=295489&t1=Princeton

[citdog]

Massey Ratings also predicts Princeton would beat The Citadel.


https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=295489&t0=Citadel&h=0&s1=295489&t1=Princeton

That's laughable. It really is. No ivy league team would beat us.

[Serpentor]

Massey Ratings strongly disagrees with you, but why let facts get in the way of your biased opinions.

https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=295489&t0=Newberry&h=0&s1=295489&t1=Yale

Put your money where your mouth is, Whiffenpoof. Invite someone from outside the East Coast to roll into New Haven and put your precious little doggies to the test.

[Sader87]

Yale won at Cal Poly recently, did they not?

[citdog]

Put your money where your mouth is, Whiffenpoof. Invite someone from outside the East Coast to roll into New Haven and put your precious little doggies to the test.

Segregationists gonna segregate...

[Son of Eli]

Put your money where your mouth is, Whiffenpoof. Invite someone from outside the East Coast to roll into New Haven and put your precious little doggies to the test.


We have. Richmond will will play Yale in 2019 and 2020. Mercer will play Yale 2018, 2021, 2022 and 2023. The 2018, 2020(Richmond) and 2022 games will be in New Haven.

[citdog]

We have. Richmond will will play Yale in 2019 and 2020. Mercer will play Yale 2018, 2021, 2022 and 2023. The 2018, 2020 and 2022 games will be in New Haven.

Geography ain't your thing huh?

[Serpentor]

We have. Richmond will will play Yale in 2019 and 2020. Mercer will play Yale 2018, 2021, 2022 and 2023. The 2018, 2020 and 2022 games will be in New Haven.

Well... okay then, let's see how this plays out.

[citdog]

Yale won at Cal Poly recently, did they not?

Shut your whore mouth. You advocate for patsy league segregation here all the time...

[Son of Eli]

Shut your whore mouth. You advocate for patsy league segregation here all the time...

Testy. Someone needs a time out.

[Son of Eli]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mQhvhIPtXyw

[Sader87]

Shut your whore mouth. You advocate for patsy league segregation here all the time...

lol....I do....FCS playoffs are the most overrated thing since New Coke or the New South :)

[Lehigh'98]

Yale plays a solid OOC slate, much more so than the rest of the league. Harvard seems to have given up completely scheduling OOC. Rhody kinda suprised them this year.

[World]

We lowered ourselves to play Princeton. Newberry is a school we have played for a LONG time. They would win the cute little ivy league AND the patsy league where all of your "big" OOC games come from.

Sorry, but when you say "Newberry", is that the Div II school that lowly Citadel played this year in football?

The same Newberry that is not even ranked in the top 42 schools in the Div II rankings?

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/d2

That "Newberry"?

[World]

Massey Ratings strongly disagrees with you, but why let facts get in the way of your biased opinions.

https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=295489&t0=Newberry&h=0&s1=295489&t1=Yale


and furthermore, according to Massey, Newberry would get an even bigger whopping from Princeton


https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=295489&t0=Newberry&h=0&s1=295489&t1=Princeton

[citdog]

Sorry, but when you say "Newberry", is that the Div II school that lowly Citadel played this year in football?

The same Newberry that is not even ranked in the top 42 schools in the Div II rankings?

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/d2

That "Newberry"?

You mean #10 The Citadel don't you?

[World]

You mean #10 The Citadel don't you?

Yes, we are talking about The Citadel that played the Div II #42 ranked team Newberry, and barely won

That The Citadel

[citdog]

Yes, we are talking about The Citadel that played the Div II #42 ranked team Newberry, and barely won

That The Citadel

What does "barely" me in your world?

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

What is with all the Ivy League boasting threads?

[World]

What does "barely" me in your world?

this would be considered a barely won game against the #42 ranked Div II team

http://citadelsports.com/boxscore.aspx?id=5275&path=football

[Ivytalk]

Easy, World. Citdog is trying to sell you a '65 Datsun with bondo.

[cx500d]

Easy, World. Citdog is trying to sell you a '65 Datsun with bondo.


These are worth some coin

http://momentcar.com/images/datsun-1500-1965-1.jpg

[citdog]

this would be considered a barely won game against the #42 ranked Div II team

http://citadelsports.com/boxscore.aspx?id=5275&path=football

Looks to me like a nice 3 score victory in the home opener.

[World]

Looks to me like a nice 3 score victory in the home opener.

actually, no

playing the #42 ranked Div 2 team and winning by only 17 points is not a good thing

[citdog]

actually, no

playing the #42 ranked Div 2 team and winning by only 17 points is not a good thing

It is to me and the left hand side of the wins and losses column.

[bulldog10jw]

It is to me and the left hand side of the wins and losses column.

Just not against Patriot League schools, right. xcoffeex

[citdog]

Just not against Patriot League schools, right. xcoffeex

We also play klempsin this year. North Carolina last year and beat USC the year before.

[World]

It is to me and the left hand side of the wins and losses column.

oh wait, so now you are saying that it is ok to play a lowly ranked Div 2 school as long as you win?

buy weren't you just attacking the Ivy league for having a soft non-conference schedule?

not surprised

[citdog]

oh wait, so now you are saying that it is ok to play a lowly ranked Div 2 school as long as you win?

buy weren't you just attacking the Ivy league for having a soft non-conference schedule?

not surprised

I was also mocking your fluffy soft conference schedule as well. Don't forget that.

[World]

I was also mocking your fluffy soft conference schedule as well. Don't forget that.

so let me see if I can I understand this, you attack and mock what you claim is an Ivy soft conference schedule, but you say it is ok to play the lowly #42 ranked Div 2 school Newberry like Citdog has done?

not surprised

[citdog]

so let me see if I can I understand this, you attack and mock what you claim is an Ivy soft conference schedule, but you say it is ok to play the lowly #42 ranked Div 2 school Newberry like Citdog has done?

not surprised

When balanced out by the klempsin tigers it's a FINE schedule!

[bulldog10jw]

I was also mocking your fluffy soft conference schedule as well. Don't forget that.

I guess your conference must be tough since you have such a historically low winning %_age. It may be time to re-think your conference options.

[citdog]

I guess your conference must be tough since you have such a historically low winning %_age. It may be time to re-think your conference options.

It has been the toughest MANY years since the split. Like a couple of decades...

[World]

This pretty much sums it up

2017 Strength of Schedule Rankings as of Sept 24, 2017

https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.p...2017&sub=11605 (https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cf2017&sub=11605)

49. Cornell
84. Harvard
85. Brown
92. Penn
96. Yale
106. Princeton
107. Citadel

[Go...gate]

This pretty much sums it up

2017 Strength of Schedule Rankings as of Sept 24, 2017

https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.p...2017&sub=11605 (https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cf2017&sub=11605)

29. Colgate
49. Cornell
84. Harvard
85. Brown
92. Penn
96. Yale
106. Princeton
107. Citadel


FIFY.

[CFBfan]

Nobody cares about the ivy league.

and yet at least 4 or 5 of them would whoop citadel

[Bison56]

This pretty much sums it up

2017 Strength of Schedule Rankings as of Sept 24, 2017

https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.p...2017&sub=11605 (https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cf2017&sub=11605)


49. Cornell
84. Harvard
85. Brown
92. Penn
96. Yale
106. Princeton
107. Citadel

What page is that on?

[citdog]

and yet at least 4 or 5 of them would whoop citadel

Only in the feverish mind of an ivy or patsy league fan.

[citdog]

This pretty much sums it up

2017 Strength of Schedule Rankings as of Sept 24, 2017

https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.p...2017&sub=11605 (https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cf2017&sub=11605)

49. Cornell
84. Harvard
85. Brown
92. Penn
96. Yale
106. Princeton
107. Citadel


Why not post the same stat in two weeks? You won't because it won't look ANYTHING like that. You ivy boys should really get your own board and out of this Subdivision.

[World]

What page is that on?

Huh?

Just click the link provided and look under the SoS (Strength of Schedule) column.

[World]

Why not post the same stat in two weeks? You won't because it won't look ANYTHING like that. You ivy boys should really get your own board and out of this Subdivision.

so you are asking why am I not posting the same strength of scheduled two weeks from today?

let me see...how about because the two weeks from today haven't occurred yet?

[World]

Why not post the same stat in two weeks? You won't because it won't look ANYTHING like that. You ivy boys should really get your own board and out of this Subdivision.


Ha!

so says the person from the lowly school with the 107th ranked strength of schedule, lower than 6 of the 8 Ivy League schools

[citdog]

so you are asking why am I not posting the same strength of scheduled two weeks from today?

let me see...how about because the two weeks from today haven't occurred yet?

The point schleprock is that this is the ONLY portion of the season where you could post this and it support your argument. You know it and that's why you posted it.

[World]

The point schleprock is that this is the ONLY portion of the season where you could post this and it support your argument. You know it and that's why you posted it.

Huh?

So you are again accusing me of failing to post something two weeks from today?

good one

[CFBfan]

Only in the feverish mind of an ivy or patsy league fan.

and most fcs fans who are level headed and not biased to a cupcake scheduled team like citadel