AGS Poll Results - Week 1 - 09/04/2017

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AGS Poll Results - Week 1 - 09/04/2017



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes


1
James Madison Dukes
2023
79


2
North Dakota State Bison
1927
2


3
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1826



4
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1736



5
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1666



6
Wofford Terriers
1442



7
Villanova Wildcats
1439



8
Youngstown State Penguins
1410



9
Eastern Washington Eagles
1383



10
Richmond Spiders
1286



11
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
1109



12
New Hampshire Wildcats
1032



13
The Citadel Bulldogs
1022



14
Illinois State Redbirds
843



15
Chattanooga Mocs
813



16
Central Arkansas Bears
809



17
Samford Bulldogs
750



18
Western Illinois Leathernecks
691



19
Lehigh Mountain Hawks
460



20
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
420



21
Colgate Raiders
246



22
Northern Iowa Panthers
217



23
Weber State Wildcats
199



24
Howard Bison
164



25
North Carolina A&T Aggies
143
















ORV:




26
Montana Grizzlies
142



27
South Dakota Coyotes
140



28
Tennessee State Tigers
117



29
Albany Great Danes
98



30
Nicholls State Colonels
79



31
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
73



32
Eastern Illinois Panthers
57



33
Maine Black Bears
56



34
Portland State Vikings
54



35
Furman Paladins
48



36
Stony Brook Seawolves
47



37
San Diego Toreros
46



38
Fordham Rams
39



39
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
38



40
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
36










Most Significant Win:
Howard Bison






Most Significant Loss:
Cal Poly Mustangs

[JSUSoutherner]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Villanova Wildcats
10: The Citadel Bulldogs
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Wofford Terriers
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Illinois State Redbirds
18: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
19: Tennessee State Tigers
20: Western Illinois Leathernecks
21: Furman Paladins
22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
23: Portland State Vikings
24: Stony Brook Seawolves
25: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

JSUSoutherner

The Most Significant Win: Tennessee State Tigers
The Most Significant Loss: Youngstown State Penguins
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Ohio Valley Conference

[WestCoastAggie]

I'm shocked Tennessee State isn't ranked.

[JSUSoutherner]

I'm shocked Tennessee State isn't ranked.
Same.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'm shocked Tennessee State isn't ranked.

They are 6 points out and at 28 so pretty close.

[tomq04]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: The Citadel Bulldogs
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: Richmond Spiders
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: Youngstown State Penguins
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Samford Bulldogs
15: Western Illinois Leathernecks
16: Weber State Wildcats
17: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
21: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
22: South Dakota Coyotes
23: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
24: Montana Grizzlies
25: San Diego Toreros

tomq04

The Most Significant Win: Howard Bison
The Most Significant Loss: Cal Poly Mustangs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Big Sky Conference

[taper]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Richmond Spiders
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Stony Brook Seawolves
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
12: Howard Bison
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: The Citadel Bulldogs
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Colgate Raiders
18: Illinois State Redbirds
19: Western Illinois Leathernecks
20: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
21: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
22: New Hampshire Wildcats
23: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
24: Samford Bulldogs
25: Tennessee State Tigers

The Most Significant Win: Howard Bison
The Most Significant Loss: Eastern Washington Eagles
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference


Tenn St's win isn't all that good, even if FBS. Georgia St wouldn't even be ranked in the FCS.

I'm going to have a lot of shuffling in the next few weeks once we find out if some wins were just flash in the pan or solid teams from unexpected places.

[JSUSoutherner]

23: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens

xconfusedx

[ElCid]

10: The Citadel Bulldogs

12: Wofford Terriers



I don't get this. I don't mind but we lost a lot of folks, Wofford got back a lot; they went deeper in the playoffs last year and beat us in the playoffs after melting down in our regular season game.

What are you seeing that I am not?

[taper]

I don't get this. I don't mind but we lost a lot of folks, Wofford got back a lot; they went deeper in the playoffs last year and beat us in the playoffs after melting down in our regular season game.

What are you seeing that I am not?

We're 1 week in and he's got them 2 spots apart. Seems pretty early to start nitpicking.

[TheKingpin28]

NDSU for #1?

Ok I am a little confused by that.

I just need week 4/5 to roll around so my polls can even out.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

No Red Flash?

Boo.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

NDSU for #1?

Ok I am a little confused by that.

I just need week 4/5 to roll around so my polls can even out.

2 votes, neither of them NDSU guys.

[TheKingpin28]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: Richmond Spiders
9: The Citadel Bulldogs
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Wofford Terriers
12: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: New Hampshire Wildcats
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: Samford Bulldogs
20: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
21: South Dakota Coyotes
22: Northern Iowa Panthers
23: Weber State Wildcats
24: Nicholls State Colonels
25: Howard Bison

After what Colgate did to me last year, I am not settled on them yet so I felt safer with Nicholls based on how they preformed last year and this year. Their coach is doing wonders with that program, now they just need to win those OT and 3pt or less games.

[ElCid]

We're 1 week in and he's got them 2 spots apart. Seems pretty early to start nitpicking.

No I get that, but just curious what he sees. They got back like 18 starters or something like that. We got back like 10 or so. It showed this week.

[TheKingpin28]

2 votes, neither of them NDSU guys.

To each their own but I almost thought about putting SDSU #2 over NDSU. That was one of the tougher choices.

[JSUSoutherner]

I don't get this. I don't mind but we lost a lot of folks, Wofford got back a lot; they went deeper in the playoffs last year and beat us in the playoffs after melting down in our regular season game.

What are you seeing that I am not?
In all honesty based on week 1 performances I could see either team being tops in the SoCon right now. I'm not going to quibble until we have more to go on. I think I expected more out of Wofford and was left confused after the Furman game.




Tenn St's win isn't all that good, even if FBS. Georgia St wouldn't even be ranked in the FCS.



While I agree GSU isnt a great opponent, having watched the game I was impressed by how TSU played the game. They looked really good as a team IMO.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

To each their own but I almost thought about putting SDSU #2 over NDSU. That was one of the tougher choices.


Pretty easy vote for me having JMU over NDSU right now. SDSU over NDSU right now? I don't see it with the playoff beat down last year but the game this year should be a good one.

[TheKingpin28]

Pretty easy vote for me having JMU over NDSU right now. SDSU over NDSU right now? I don't see it with the playoff beat down last year but the game this year should be a good one.

Losing Menard really hurts and the amount of "penalties" (BF02, POD Knows, Laker and I were laughing at some of them) that NDSU took were ridiculous. Also, NDSU STs look like a joke right now and Pedersen could not make a FG if his life counted on it. Unless they turn it around next game and NDSU and SDSU have similar results against their Big Fluffy competition, I might be inclined to do so.

It will be a good game for sure, but at the Dykhouse where USD and SDSU fans unite to wear the same colours, and they believe NDSU might get 2K tickets, it could be another toss-up.

[TheRevSFA]

Here is mine. I openly admit I had YSU too low



1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Villanova Wildcats
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Richmond Spiders
10: Youngstown State Penguins
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: The Citadel Bulldogs
15: Samford Bulldogs
16: Illinois State Redbirds
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
20: Colgate Raiders
21: Nicholls State Colonels
22: Tennessee State Tigers
23: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
24: Howard Bison
25: Southeastern Louisiana Lions

TheRevSFA

The Most Significant Win: James Madison Dukes
The Most Significant Loss: Cal Poly Mustangs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southland Conference

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[JSUSoutherner]

Here is mine. I openly admit I had YSU too low



1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Villanova Wildcats
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Richmond Spiders
10: Youngstown State Penguins
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: The Citadel Bulldogs
15: Samford Bulldogs
16: Illinois State Redbirds
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
20: Colgate Raiders
21: Nicholls State Colonels
22: Tennessee State Tigers
23: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
24: Howard Bison
25: Southeastern Louisiana Lions

TheRevSFA

The Most Significant Win: James Madison Dukes
The Most Significant Loss: Cal Poly Mustangs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southland Conference

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I wayyyyy underrated YSU in my preseason poll.

[RootinFerDukes]

Wow Howard gets the week 1 generous increase. They're ranked and I would bet most didn't have them in the top 100 going into this week.

[JSUSoutherner]

Wow Howard gets the week 1 generous increase. They're ranked and I would bet most didn't have them in the top 100 going into this week.

I still don't think they should be ranked.

[taper]

I still don't think they should be ranked.

I gave them the benefit of the doubt. They have Kent State and Richmond the next 2 weeks so we'll find out pretty soon if they're for real.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Not much different than my preseason poll

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: New Hampshire Wildcats
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Richmond Spiders
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Western Illinois Leathernecks
15: Eastern Washington Eagles
16: Chattanooga Mocs
17: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
18: Illinois State Redbirds
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Samford Bulldogs
21: North Carolina A&T Aggies
22: Pennsylvania Quakers
23: Colgate Raiders
24: Northern Iowa Panthers
25: Eastern Illinois Panther

[grizband]

I fully expect this to change over the next 3-4 weeks...

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Richmond Spiders
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Villanova Wildcats
9: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
10: Youngstown State Penguins
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: Chattanooga Mocs
16: Illinois State Redbirds
17: Samford Bulldogs
18: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
19: Western Illinois Leathernecks
20: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Weber State Wildcats
23: Fordham Rams
24: Albany Great Danes
25: Montana Grizzlies

grizband

The Most Significant Win: James Madison Dukes
The Most Significant Loss: Eastern Washington Eagles
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Big Sky Conference

- - - Updated - - -

Hey Ursus, don't forget to send this to Sagarin...

[Catbooster]

I'm surprised the Grizzlies got more votes (almost 3x the points) than Portland State

[BucBisonAtLarge]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Richmond Spiders
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Samford Bulldogs
15: The Citadel Bulldogs
16: Illinois State Redbirds
17: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
18: Western Illinois Leathernecks
19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
20: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
21: Chattanooga Mocs
22: Princeton Tigers
23: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
24: Nicholls State Colonels
25: Colgate Raiders

The Most Significant Win: Howard Bison
The Most Significant Loss: Cal Poly Mustangs

Probably need to reconsider the Delaware pick, but I decided to let it ride this week. It is early.

[LU808]

Here is mine. I openly admit I had YSU too low



1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Villanova Wildcats
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Richmond Spiders
10: Youngstown State Penguins
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: The Citadel Bulldogs
15: Samford Bulldogs
16: Illinois State Redbirds
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
20: Colgate Raiders
21: Nicholls State Colonels
22: Tennessee State Tigers
23: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
24: Howard Bison
25: Southeastern Louisiana Lions

TheRevSFA

The Most Significant Win: James Madison Dukes
The Most Significant Loss: Cal Poly Mustangs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southland Conference

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Lehigh gets within 3 points of #7 team - out gains them in total yards, embarrasses their senior laden defensive backfield - and you leave them out of the top 25?

[dewey]

Here is my top 25.

Rip away.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
12: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Chattanooga Mocs
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
23: Colgate Raiders
24: South Dakota Coyotes
25: Montana Grizzlies

dewey

The Most Significant Win: Howard Bison
The Most Significant Loss: Eastern Washington Eagles
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Go Bison!

Dewey

[cx500d]

The gospel according to cx:

1: James Madison Dukes
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: Villanova Wildcats
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Richmond Spiders
10: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
11: Colgate Raiders
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Wofford Terriers
15: Chattanooga Mocs
16: South Dakota Coyotes
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
19: Portland State Vikings
20: The Citadel Bulldogs
21: Central Arkansas Bears
22: Stony Brook Seawolves
23: Austin Peay Governors
24: Samford Bulldogs
25: San Diego Toreros

[ElCid]

I am not trying to criticize anyone, but I have serious question. Just trying to understand. I have seen a number of folks list the Howard win as the most significant one, but then they don't have them listed in their top 25. How was that win significant if Howard is not included in the poll? Did some move them from #116 to #89 in their own poll? (if anyone ranks teams that far down) I am not down playing that win at all, it was great and I am excited for them, but if that win did not impact the poll, why is it significant? I can see a "significant loss" team possibly not being in the poll because they dropped out, but a win would most likely place that team higher or at the very least, place them in the poll. Just curious.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I am not trying to criticize anyone, but I have serious question. Just trying to understand. I have seen a number of folks list the Howard win as the most significant one, but then they don't have them listed in their top 25. How was that win significant if Howard is not included in the poll? Did some move them from #116 to #89 in their own poll? (if anyone ranks teams that far down) I am not down playing that win at all, it was great and I am excited for them, but if that win did not impact the poll, why is it significant? I can see a "significant loss" team possibly not being in the poll because they dropped out, but a win would most likely place that team higher or at the very least, place them in the poll. Just curious.

I think you kinda have the answer in part of your question. I would bet that many would not even have them in their thoughts...at all at this point but this win moves them up in "consideration" which a lot of people doing th epoll keep a list of 30-40 teams they are considering.

If Howard is on that list now and they were not before I'd imagine that is at least a 30 place jump in many people's ranking.

It was in my tinkling anyway. But, if you are an unknown commodity you don't just leap in with one win normally. You need to show a little bit more when you come from nowhere.

[ElCid]

I think you kinda have the answer in part of your question. I would bet that many would not even have them in their thoughts...at all at this point but this win moves them up in "consideration" which a lot of people doing th epoll keep a list of 30-40 teams they are considering.

If Howard is on that list now and they were not before I'd imagine that is at least a 30 place jump in many people's ranking.

It was in my tinkling anyway. But, if you are an unknown commodity you don't just leap in with one win normally. You need to show a little bit more when you come from nowhere.

Yes, i can see that. I just can't see many people doing that. But if they do, that is kind of nice in this "results now" oriented society of ours. They too are on my watch list now, but that is about it until they win another good game.

[RootinFerDukes]

Cx, you honestly believe SHSU would beat your bison right now?

[SU DOG]

In all honesty based on week 1 performances I could see either team being tops in the SoCon right now. I'm not going to quibble until we have more to go on. I think I expected more out of Wofford and was left confused after the Furman game.



While I agree GSU isnt a great opponent, having watched the game I was impressed by how TSU played the game. They looked really good as a team IMO.

Hate to agree with a JSU guy, but yeah TSU looked really good. One other team that also impressed me was North Carolina A&T. I know Gardner Webb isn't the best measuring stick, but that A&T is one BIG tough looking squad.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Hate to agree with a JSU guy, but yeah TSU looked really good. One other team that also impressed me was North Carolina A&T. I know Gardner Webb isn't the best measuring stick, but that A&T is one BIG tough looking squad.

Gardner Webb is scrappy and plays people tough the last couple of years too.

[caribbeanhen]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: Richmond Spiders
9: The Citadel Bulldogs
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Wofford Terriers
12: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: New Hampshire Wildcats
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: Samford Bulldogs
20: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
21: South Dakota Coyotes
22: Northern Iowa Panthers
23: Weber State Wildcats
24: Nicholls State Colonels
25: Howard Bison

After what Colgate did to me last year, I am not settled on them yet so I felt safer with Nicholls based on how they preformed last year and this year. Their coach is doing wonders with that program, now they just need to win those OT and 3pt or less games.




really? you must be distracted by a member of the opposite sex

[Milktruck74]

Most of you have my Mocs 17-21......that is where they need to be. We may be able to climb during the season, but that is yet to be seen!

[JSUSoutherner]

Here is my top 25.

Rip away.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
12: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Chattanooga Mocs
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
23: Colgate Raiders
24: South Dakota Coyotes
25: Montana Grizzlies

dewey

The Most Significant Win: Howard Bison
The Most Significant Loss: Eastern Washington Eagles
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Go Bison!

Dewey

You think we'd be a third place Southland team? Alrighty then.

Interesting Wofford almost gets knocked out by a SoCon team you don't even have ranked and you still have them at #5 and we waffle stomp #14 and we aren't even in your top 10. xcoffeex

[TheKingpin28]

really? you must be distracted by a member of the opposite sex

After how bad Richmond and SHSU played and how unwatchable it was, nope, not one bit. I give them a pass due to Gage Gubrud but if he does not show up next week, then the **** will hit the fan.

[cx500d]

Cx, you honestly believe SHSU would beat your bison right now?


Based on what I saw from our team on Saturday, yes. SHSU had a legit game and was tested, we haven't, and we still made some bonehead mistakes. Our kicking game again appears to be in a shambles, our special teams play was uninspiring. We started losing players in a game that didn't matter. I'm not awed by our passing game.

[centennial]

**** completely forgot to vote again. Damn I am bad voter.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

**** completely forgot to vote again. Damn I am bad voter.

Are you just ignoring the email or set it aside and forget about it? That sucks man, hate to see a prefection run ruined.

[bobcathpdevil56]

I have to apologize to Sam Houston. You should've been #4 in my poll, but instead somehow I ended up with Eastern Illinois. Sorry Bearkats.

And I didn't double check, sorry Ursus

[Daytripper]

I am not trying to criticize anyone, but I have serious question. Just trying to understand. I have seen a number of folks list the Howard win as the most significant one, but then they don't have them listed in their top 25. How was that win significant if Howard is not included in the poll? Did some move them from #116 to #89 in their own poll? (if anyone ranks teams that far down) I am not down playing that win at all, it was great and I am excited for them, but if that win did not impact the poll, why is it significant? I can see a "significant loss" team possibly not being in the poll because they dropped out, but a win would most likely place that team higher or at the very least, place them in the poll. Just curious.

In my book, if you are 1-0 with that win being an FBS team, you are top 25 worthy until proven otherwise.

[polsongrizz]

Howard, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, hilarious...They best a team that the to 15-20 teams would kill. Hell PSU should be in the top ten then.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I couldn't bring myself to rank Howard. Every year there's a team or two that notches an out of nowhere FBS win then proceeds to do nothing the rest of the year. Not saying that without a doubt Howard will be that team but if there is one this year I think the Bison will be in the running....

[Daytripper]

I couldn't bring myself to rank Howard. Every year there's a team or two that notches an out of nowhere FBS win then proceeds to do nothing the rest of the year. Not saying that without a doubt Howard will be that team but if there is one this year I think the Bison will be in the running....

I try not to rank teams based on what I think they will do the rest of the season. I try to rank them on what they have done, and against who. Howard beat an FBS team, therefore they are worthy of rank. They get hammered and look like sh** next week, not in the top 25.

[mvemjsunpx]

I couldn't bring myself to rank Howard. Every year there's a team or two that notches an out of nowhere FBS win then proceeds to do nothing the rest of the year. Not saying that without a doubt Howard will be that team but if there is one this year I think the Bison will be in the running....

There's reason to think they'll be better than they have been, since they have Newton & Philyaw instead of just Philyaw, but they have to prove more to be top-25 worthy. North Carolina A&T still looks like the MEAC favorite.

[JSUSoutherner]

I couldn't bring myself to rank Howard. Every year there's a team or two that notches an out of nowhere FBS win then proceeds to do nothing the rest of the year. Not saying that without a doubt Howard will be that team but if there is one this year I think the Bison will be in the running....
My problem with them wasn't their history or who they beat. It's that Newton is ALL they have.

[TheRevSFA]

Lehigh gets within 3 points of #7 team - out gains them in total yards, embarrasses their senior laden defensive backfield - and you leave them out of the top 25?

I'm also not the only one who did. I don't think they are one of the top 25 best teams in the nation. Sorry.

[mvemjsunpx]

My problem with them wasn't their history or who they beat. It's that Newton is ALL they have.

Their running back (Philyaw) was the MEAC preseason Offensive POY.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Here goes my first AGS poll ever, and hopefully first of many:

Decided I had to rank Howard for that historic performance and squeezed Nicholls in after their two-point win over McNeese. Didn't rank Colgate b/c I'm not sure how good Cal Poly really is this year. A win over Richmond up in Hamilton and I probably put them somewhere between 17 & 20. Snuck South Dakota in there because I feel that somehow the middle/bottom of the MVFC still manages to be underrated. As far as the Ivies are concerned, I'll rank when I see something on the field.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Youngstown State Penguins
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Villanova Wildcats
10: Wofford Terriers
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Illinois State Redbirds
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: The Citadel Bulldogs
16: Central Arkansas Bears
17: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
18: Samford Bulldogs
19: Western Illinois Leathernecks
20: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
21: Weber State Wildcats
22: Howard Bison
23: Albany Great Danes
24: Nicholls State Colonels
25: South Dakota Coyotes

NY Crusader 2010

The Most Significant Win: Howard Bison
The Most Significant Loss: McNeese State Cowboys
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League

[BisonTru]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Richmond Spiders
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Western Illinois Leathernecks
15: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
16: Illinois State Redbirds
17: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
18: Samford Bulldogs
19: The Citadel Bulldogs
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: Weber State Wildcats
22: Colgate Raiders
23: Portland State Vikings
24: Howard Bison
25: Saint Francis Red Flash

BisonTru

The Most Significant Win: Howard Bison
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[ElCid]

I couldn't bring myself to rank Howard. Every year there's a team or two that notches an out of nowhere FBS win then proceeds to do nothing the rest of the year. Not saying that without a doubt Howard will be that team but if there is one this year I think the Bison will be in the running....


I try not to rank teams based on what I think they will do the rest of the season. I try to rank them on what they have done, and against who. Howard beat an FBS team, therefore they are worthy of rank. They get hammered and look like sh** next week, not in the top 25.

I need a little consistency first. One game does not a ranking make. Howard is on my watch list. If they beat Kent, heck yeah. Computer has Kent in the ND, Samford, Richmond range. If they are competitive, maybe yes anyway at 0-2, .....depends. If they get blown out, still on watch list.

[POD Knows]

Hello POD Knows,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/3/2017 19:08:24

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Youngstown State Penguins
8: Villanova Wildcats
9: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: The Citadel Bulldogs
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Samford Bulldogs
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: Richmond Spiders
17: New Hampshire Wildcats
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: South Dakota Coyotes
20: Colgate Raiders
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
23: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
24: Furman Paladins
25: Tennessee State Tigers


OK, start the bitching about the UNI ranking and the omission of Howard.

[centennial]

Are you just ignoring the email or set it aside and forget about it? That sucks man, hate to see a prefection run ruined.

Not ignoring them. Last minute decided to go rafting on the Arkansas river (last day of the season). Completely blanked it. I'll just start voting early so I don't miss again.

[caribbeanhen]

Here goes my first AGS poll ever, and hopefully first of many:

Decided I had to rank Howard for that historic performance and squeezed Nicholls in after their two-point win over McNeese. Didn't rank Colgate b/c I'm not sure how good Cal Poly really is this year. A win over Richmond up in Hamilton and I probably put them somewhere between 17 & 20. Snuck South Dakota in there because I feel that somehow the middle/bottom of the MVFC still manages to be underrated. As far as the Ivies are concerned, I'll rank when I see something on the field.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Youngstown State Penguins
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Villanova Wildcats
10: Wofford Terriers
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Illinois State Redbirds
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: The Citadel Bulldogs
16: Central Arkansas Bears
17: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
18: Samford Bulldogs
19: Western Illinois Leathernecks
20: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
21: Weber State Wildcats
22: Howard Bison
23: Albany Great Danes
24: Nicholls State Colonels
25: South Dakota Coyotes

NY Crusader 2010

The Most Significant Win: Howard Bison
The Most Significant Loss: McNeese State Cowboys
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League




Not a bad poll at the top, but your NY bias shows a bit with Albany.... at least for now

[clenz]

Hello POD Knows,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/3/2017 19:08:24

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Youngstown State Penguins
8: Villanova Wildcats
9: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: The Citadel Bulldogs
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Samford Bulldogs
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: Richmond Spiders
17: New Hampshire Wildcats
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: South Dakota Coyotes
20: Colgate Raiders
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
23: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
24: Furman Paladins
25: Tennessee State Tigers


OK, start the bitching about the UNI ranking and the omission of Howard.

I've been the biggest detractor of UNI the last 51 weeks. Based on Saturday I'm actually significantly more confident in UNI than I was before. There is now an identity to the offense, using a passer. TE were used on 95% of plays. There wasn't a single zone option run.

Yes, there was 3 picks and 3 of them were pick 6. However, watching those plays and 2 of Jose 3 weren't on Eli. One was a pass that hit a WR in the hands and popped up into the air to the defender. The other was a WR breaking a route off short.

[WestCoastAggie]

There's reason to think they'll be better than they have been, since they have Newton & Philyaw instead of just Philyaw, but they have to prove more to be top-25 worthy. North Carolina A&T still looks like the MEAC favorite.

If they beat Kent State, they will be definitely worthy of a top 25 ranking.

[The Pud]

The Pod's Top Five

1. NDSU
2. Sammy
3. Jacksonville St.
4. SDSU
5. JMU

[Bisonator]

The Pod's Top Five

1. NDSU
2. Sammy
3. Jacksonville St.
4. SDSU
5. JMU
xrolleyesx

[Daytripper]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: New Hampshire Wildcats
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Eastern Washington Eagles
14: Samford Bulldogs
15: Portland State Vikings
16: Illinois State Redbirds
17: Chattanooga Mocs
18: Western Illinois Leathernecks
19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
20: Nicholls State Colonels
21: The Citadel Bulldogs
22: Northern Iowa Panthers
23: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
24: Stony Brook Seawolves
25: Howard Bison

Daytripper

The Most Significant Win: Howard Bison
The Most Significant Loss: Youngstown State Penguins

[TheRevSFA]

The Pod's Top Five

1. NDSU
2. Sammy
3. Jacksonville St.
4. SDSU
5. JMU

Trolls gonna troll

[ST_Lawson]

Hello POD Knows,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/3/2017 19:08:24

Your vote is listed below.

...
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
...
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
...

OK, start the bitching about the UNI ranking and the omission of Howard.

#10 - We did well last week, but I'm not sold on us being any better than UNI or USD at this point. If we win at NAU by more than a TD and if we stay close with Coastal Carolina, then I think we might really have something (then again, I thought the same thing last year).

#21 - Seems fair for UNI at this point. I would say "borderline playoff-level" is what I think I've seen from them so far.

Howard - HUGE upset for them, but just about any team can pull off one big upset over an FBS team if the FBS team is looking past them, the FCS team has a couple of really solid players, and things just go their way. I think it's fair for them to be just outside the top 25 right now, considering their history. If they keep playing well over the next couple of weeks, then they can definitely get into the mix, but you have to compare them to the other teams. What percentage of teams in the top 25 could stand a good chance at beating UNLV in a similar situation...50%....75%?

[Evolution Prime]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Richmond Spiders
9: The Citadel Bulldogs
10: Youngstown State Penguins
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: Samford Bulldogs
14: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Illinois State Redbirds
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
19: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
20: Saint Francis Red Flash
21: Montana Grizzlies
22: Maine Black Bears
23: Colgate Raiders
24: South Dakota Coyotes
25: San Diego Toreros

Most Significant Win: James Madison Dukes
Most Significant Loss: Youngstown State Penguins

[The Pud]

Trolls gonna troll


Losers going to whine and complain like a little B**C*

[JSUSoutherner]

Trolls gonna troll
I'm just waiting for them to drop one of their cupcake games or get blown out in the playoffs again. As soon as they do he will just disappear again.

[TheRevSFA]

Losers going to whine and complain like a little B**C*

I didn't see anyone whining

but keep living in your little world

[DirtyDukes]

The Pod's Top Five

1. NDSU
2. Sammy
3. Jacksonville St.
4. SDSU
5. JMU

You gotta try harder, bud.


I'm just waiting for them to drop one of their cupcake games or get blown out in the playoffs again. As soon as they do he will just disappear again.

The best is going back thru any of the SHSU's guys (outside of DT and 94) post history to see the 9 month gap between December and July/August.

[The Pud]

You gotta try harder, bud.



The best is going back thru any of the SHSU's guys (outside of DT and 94) post history to see the 9 month gap between December and July/August.

Gap is as big as your ***

[JSUSoutherner]

You gotta try harder, bud.



The best is going back thru any of the SHSU's guys (outside of DT and 94) post history to see the 9 month gap between December and July/August.
Just did that for Pod and his last comment before late July was his prediction of a SHSU win in the SHSU@JMU thread. xlolx

[The Pud]

Just did that for Pod and his last comment before late July was his prediction of a SHSU win in the SHSU@JMU thread. xlolx


no, it was before JSU meltdown in the playoffs

[JSUSoutherner]

no, it was before JSU meltdown in the playoffs
At least I didn't scamper off like a beaten dog after we lost. xlolx

[DirtyDukes]

Gap is as big as your ****

Well on that we can agree! xthumbsupx

[JSUSoutherner]

Well on that we can agree! xthumbsupx

I just about busted a gut. It's currently taking every once of my strength not to laugh right now. Don't need everyone in this chem class eyeing me down.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I've been the biggest detractor of UNI the last 51 weeks. Based on Saturday I'm actually significantly more confident in UNI than I was before. There is now an identity to the offense, using a passer. TE were used on 95% of plays. There wasn't a single zone option run.

Yes, there was 3 picks and 3 of them were pick 6. However, watching those plays and 2 of Jose 3 weren't on Eli. One was a pass that hit a WR in the hands and popped up into the air to the defender. The other was a WR breaking a route off short.

However, 0 sacks and 1 QB hurry is not what a UNI defense should do. The new coaching staff obviously was exposed. They were clearly out adjusted at halftime. ISU had nothing on offense first half. Then ran through us like a hot knife through butter in the 2nd half.

There are some things to be happy about for sure, but there is a lot of improvement needed as well. I still don't think we should be ranked yet.

[The Pud]

I just about busted a gut. It's currently taking every once of my strength not to laugh right now. Don't need everyone in this chem class eyeing me down.


You know I have mad respect for everyone here, just like giving folks a hard time from time to time

Cheers Mate

[clenz]

However, 0 sacks and 1 QB hurry is not what a UNI defense should do. The new coaching staff obviously was exposed. They were clearly out adjusted at halftime. ISU had nothing on offense first half. Then ran through us like a hot knife through butter in the 2nd half.

There are some things to be happy about for sure, but there is a lot of improvement needed as well. I still don't think we should be ranked yet.
Yes, we do need a better pass rush. However, I will never worry about a UNI defense. UNI has like 100-120 sacks the last 3 years. The one thing Farley has done right over his 17 years is defense

That's also quite alarmist, and mostly false, when it comes to "running through UNI like a hot knife through butter". Here are ISU's rushing attempts in the second half, in order

14
4
5
1
3
10
10
2
2
-1
-1
4
1
1
1
3
5
1
1
0
1
6



16 of 22 were for 4, or less, yards
10 22 runs were for 1, 0, or negative yards
Just 4 runs over 5 yards.

The 14 yarder was the first play out of half. Clearly something caught UNI off on that one. Then nothing until back to back 10 yarders by Mike Warren - who has run for 2,000 yards in his first two seasons at UNI...and he finished with 33 yards on 12 carries....or 13 yards on 10 carries for the rest of the game.

For the game Iowa State ran for 134 yards, but it took 35 carries to get there. The average was 3.7 YPC.

Let's try to have some rationality on it.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Well I didn't mean solely the running game. In general the defense struggled to stop ISU period in the 2nd half. They did a great job the first half, but the adjustments ISU made were better than the adjustments UNI made.

[clenz]

Well I didn't mean solely the running game. In general the defense struggled to stop ISU period in the 2nd half. They did a great job the first half, but the adjustments ISU made were better than the adjustments UNI made.
The offense getting better as the season goes will help.

UNI had 13 drives - ran just 60 plays - 4.5 plays per drive.
8 drives of 3 plays or less - 7 resulted in no points. 6 punts/TO, 1 missed FG and then 1 TD.
That means UNI lost the TOP.
That means the defense was on the field more.
The defense faced 71 plays.

As we settle into this new system I expect it go go from 4.5 plays per driver to an average of 5.5-6 plays per drive. That will move TOP from 29 minutes to 34-35 minutes. That's extra rest for the defense. That's extra time for sideline adjustment for coaches.

Sustaining drives will be vital this week against Poly

I'm not worried.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Not ignoring them. Last minute decided to go rafting on the Arkansas river (last day of the season). Completely blanked it. I'll just start voting early so I don't miss again.

I gotcha, I can see that for sure. I've done it myself. Just wanting to make sure people are seeing the emails and so forth because every current voter is getting those according to the email address I have for them. I have found a few that don't check them is why I said "ignoring" it.

[milleniumkat]

So Duquesne isn't a top 25 team?

[cx500d]

So Duquesne isn't a top 25 team?


just outside.

[PantherRob82]

I'm shocked Tennessee State isn't ranked.

I had them in, but I vote based on results, not the preseason poll.

[JSUSoutherner]

just outside.

This statement is total crap and you know it.

[PantherRob82]

No Red Flash?

Boo.

I don't even remember what they did. Did they play a sub D-I team?

[PantherRob82]

Wow Howard gets the week 1 generous increase. They're ranked and I would bet most didn't have them in the top 100 going into this week.

Preseason is a guess. Week 1 has actual facts. They are 1-0 against an FBS team and have their chance to prove their worth in the field.

[PantherRob82]

Warning: I vote on this year. The games take care of any pretenders. I considered UNI and Montana. I overlooked Portland State for some reason. Probably would have slid them in for Stony Brook.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: Sam Houston State Bearkats
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Villanova Wildcats
8: Youngstown State Penguins
9: Richmond Spiders
10: Eastern Washington Eagles
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Samford Bulldogs
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Illinois State Redbirds
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
19: The Citadel Bulldogs
20: Colgate Raiders
21: Eastern Illinois Panthers
22: Nicholls State Colonels
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Howard Bison
25: Stony Brook Seawolves

PantherRob82

The Most Significant Win: James Madison Dukes
The Most Significant Loss: Maine Black Bears
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[cx500d]

Warning: I vote on this year. The games take care of any pretenders. I considered UNI and Montana. I overlooked Portland State for some reason. Probably would have slid them in for Stony Brook.



Why, because PSU had two "quality losses" vs one "quality loss" for Stony Brook?

[PantherRob82]

Why, because PSU had two "quality losses" vs one "quality loss" for Stony Brook?

More because I actually watched them and liked what I saw. In the end it won't matter. 5 weeks from now we should have a pretty good idea of where teams sit.

[Serpentor]

You gotta try harder, bud.

The best is going back thru any of the SHSU's guys (outside of DT and 94) post history to see the 9 month gap between December and July/August.

I'm pretty sure a few of us were here all year.

[milleniumkat]

just outside.

Oh ok. I was trying to figure out why SDSU's victory was considered so impressive. I mean if they are not a top 25 team who cares? But if they are close to top 25 then that makes more sense.

[cx500d]

Oh ok. I was trying to figure out why SDSU's victory was considered so impressive. I mean if they are not a top 25 team who cares? But if they are close to top 25 then that makes more sense.


It was impressive because they are in the MVFC and have weinike and goedert.

[The Yo Show]

This is really late, but this was my poll:

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: The Citadel Bulldogs
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Western Illinois Leathernecks
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: William & Mary Tribe
16: Chattanooga Mocs
17: Illinois State Redbirds
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Colgate Raiders
20: Samford Bulldogs
21: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
22: Albany Great Danes
23: Nicholls State Colonels
24: Eastern Illinois Panthers
25: Howard Bison

[cx500d]

If only Bucknell could go on a roll....


This is really late, but this was my poll:

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: The Citadel Bulldogs
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Western Illinois Leathernecks
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: William & Mary Tribe
16: Chattanooga Mocs
17: Illinois State Redbirds
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Colgate Raiders
20: Samford Bulldogs
21: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
22: Albany Great Danes
23: Nicholls State Colonels
24: Eastern Illinois Panthers
25: Howard Bison

[ursus arctos horribilis]

The last 7 pages of unrelated whining has been moved over the smack forum. The next time I have to do this for every minute I have to spend cleaning up a poll thread the instigator or two or three that get this **** rolling and keep it going will take 1 day in timeout.

The posts are now here if you want to continue with it. Don't put anymore of it in this thread.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?195442-Random-AGS-Poll-BS

[The Yo Show]

I am reposting this here because this was on topic, but probably hard to find in the rest of the last several pages that weren't and got moved.

If only Bucknell could go on a roll....

Whatever you are getting at went way over my head xconfusedx.

[BisonTru]

I am reposting this here because this was on topic, but probably hard to find in the rest of the last several pages that weren't and got moved.


Whatever you are getting at went way over my head xconfusedx.

I think it had to do with "bison."

[BNATION]

Cant talk football all year when football isn't on. Got **** to do my man! After playoffs you wont see me until August...

You gotta try harder, bud.



The best is going back thru any of the SHSU's guys (outside of DT and 94) post history to see the 9 month gap between December and July/August.

[BNATION]

Eastern Washington over ranked. UCA under and Nicholls better than 19-25... Just my 2 cents Also Southeastern LA and Portland St. Weber, Colgate, Howard and NC A&T are garbage.

AGS Poll Results - Week 1 - 09/04/2017



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes


1
James Madison Dukes
2023
79


2
North Dakota State Bison
1927
2


3
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1826



4
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1736



5
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1666



6
Wofford Terriers
1442



7
Villanova Wildcats
1439



8
Youngstown State Penguins
1410



9
Eastern Washington Eagles
1383



10
Richmond Spiders
1286



11
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
1109



12
New Hampshire Wildcats
1032



13
The Citadel Bulldogs
1022



14
Illinois State Redbirds
843



15
Chattanooga Mocs
813



16
Central Arkansas Bears
809



17
Samford Bulldogs
750



18
Western Illinois Leathernecks
691



19
Lehigh Mountain Hawks
460



20
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
420



21
Colgate Raiders
246



22
Northern Iowa Panthers
217



23
Weber State Wildcats
199



24
Howard Bison
164



25
North Carolina A&T Aggies
143
















ORV:




26
Montana Grizzlies
142



27
South Dakota Coyotes
140



28
Tennessee State Tigers
117



29
Albany Great Danes
98



30
Nicholls State Colonels
79



31
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
73



32
Eastern Illinois Panthers
57



33
Maine Black Bears
56



34
Portland State Vikings
54



35
Furman Paladins
48



36
Stony Brook Seawolves
47



37
San Diego Toreros
46



38
Fordham Rams
39



39
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
38



40
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
36










Most Significant Win:
Howard Bison





Most Significant Loss:
Cal Poly Mustangs

[The Yo Show]

I think it had to do with "bison."

xlolx I gotcha. I knew it had something to do with my poll rankings just wasn't catching on.

[PantherRob82]

Eastern Washington over ranked. UCA under and Nicholls better than 19-25... Just my 2 cents Also Southeastern LA and Portland St. Weber, Colgate, Howard and NC A&T are garbage.

I would be shocked if EWU finished the season out of the top 10. I don't get what UCA has done to be top 15. I had Nicholls in my poll or just outside, but don't expect them to stay there.

[milleniumkat]

The last 7 pages of unrelated whining has been moved over the smack forum. The next time I have to do this for every minute I have to spend cleaning up a poll thread the instigator or two or three that get this **** rolling and keep it going will take 1 day in timeout.

The posts are now here if you want to continue with it. Don't put anymore of it in this thread.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?195442-Random-AGS-Poll-BS

I just wanna talk fcs football in peace sir. I'll comply with whatever you say.

[cx500d]

xlolx I gotcha. I knew it had something to do with my poll rankings just wasn't catching on.

Ya, 3 x Bison's in the top 25 would be great...Peta would have a field day

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I just wanna talk fcs football in peace sir. I'll comply with whatever you say.

That isn't easy around here, I realize that.xthumbsupx

[milleniumkat]

Ok serious question, feelings about UCA aside, why do you think UCA stayed put at 15 following their loss to KState when UNI dropped three in the coaches poll? Is Iowa state really considered an easy FBS win now?

[cx500d]

Ok serious question, feelings about UCA aside, why do you think UCA stayed put at 15 following their loss to KState when UNI dropped three in the coaches poll? Is Iowa state really considered an easy FBS win now?


Iowa State smoked Texas Tech 66-10 at the end of last year....That was when Texas Tech had their first round, 10th pick draft QB Pat Mahomes II. This year Texas Tech, sans stud QB, smokes Eastern Washington. Maybe Iowa State is OK? Maybe Eastern WA is really bad?

[Daytripper]

Iowa State smoked Texas Tech 66-10 at the end of last year....That was when Texas Tech had their first round, 10th pick draft QB Pat Mahomes II. This year Texas Tech, sans stud QB, smokes Eastern Washington. Maybe Iowa State is OK? Maybe Eastern WA is really bad?

I think maybe Baldwin was underrated as a coach. EWU may be entering a dark period in football.

[BisonTru]

Ok serious question, feelings about UCA aside, why do you think UCA stayed put at 15 following their loss to KState when UNI dropped three in the coaches poll? Is Iowa state really considered an easy FBS win now?

Shouldn't this question be in the Coaches poll thread? And shouldn't the question be WTF is UNI ranked, period?

[milleniumkat]

Iowa State smoked Texas Tech 66-10 at the end of last year....That was when Texas Tech had their first round, 10th pick draft QB Pat Mahomes II. This year Texas Tech, sans stud QB, smokes Eastern Washington. Maybe Iowa State is OK? Maybe Eastern WA is really bad?

Well here's my take on Texas Tech as a whole, and i'm no supporter even tho My money now goes there to pay for Mrs MK's latest degree plan. but i digress..

They have about as fast and athletic roster as any in the entire nation at nearly every position. When the season starts, that is not the time you want to play them. They are healthy, deep and if they get in a groove offensively early, they will make lots of teams look bad. However, as the season goes on and the weather gets worse, playing conditions deteriorate and they losing a few key starters, their productivity diminished. (Sounds familiar right?)

So beating tech at the end of the year does not really prove much about the state of your team. Neither does getting spanked by them early. This is what Texas Tech always does. I don't feel that i know anything about EWU as a result of this game. I already knew Tech was stupid fast everywhere. We'll learn more about EWU over the next two weeks imho. I can't hold Tech Against them.

[milleniumkat]

Shouldn't this question be in the Coaches poll thread? And shouldn't the question be WTF is UNI ranked, period?

It was intended to be a comparative question which technically would still pertain to the AGS pollsters thinking by comparison.

[BisonTru]

It was intended to be a comparative question which technically would still pertain to the AGS pollsters thinking by comparison.

Gotcha. My thoughts on the two.

UCA didn't really move either way iirc. If they did it was due to someone being bumped below them or ahead of them and that would be more about the other team.

UNI wasn't ranked last year. Hasn't shown me any reason they are significantly better than last year. So I'm not sure why they are being voted in.

Usually with that last opinion I'd get some hater response from that fanbase, but they actually generally agree with me here.

[POD Knows]

Gotcha. My thoughts on the two.

UCA didn't really move either way iirc. If they did it was due to someone being bumped below them or ahead of them and that would be more about the other team.

UNI wasn't ranked last year. Hasn't shown me any reason they are significantly better than last year. So I'm not sure why they are being voted in.

Usually with that last opinion I'd get some hater response from that fanbase, but they actually generally agree with me here.Because they would beat the bottom 1/3 of the FCS top 25 even when UNI sucks.