2017 Preseason All-America

[smallcollegefbfan]

With all of the players transferring lately I thought I would put together an All-America team. This is just a rough draft and I have a 2nd and 3rd team as well but I thought I would post just the first team to get some dialogue going. DeLuca, Phillips, and Ogundeko likely would have made the 2016 postseason team if not for the injuries they suffered.



2017 FCS PRESEASON ALL-AMERICA TEAMS

FIRST TEAM OFFENSE
WR Jake Wieneke, South Dakota State, Sr.
WR Justin Watson, Penn, Sr.
WR Kamron Lewis, Saint Francis (PA), Jr.
TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State, Sr.
OL Brandon Parker, North Carolina A&T, Sr.
OL Timon Parris, Stony Brook, Sr.
OL Daniel Cooney, San Diego, Jr.
OL Justin Lea, Jacksonville State, Sr.
OL Skyler Phillips, Idaho State, Sr.
QB Jeremiah Briscoe, Sam Houston State, Sr.
RB Chase Edmonds, Fordham, Sr.
RB John Santiago, North Dakota, Jr.
FB Joe Protheroe, Cal Poly, Sr.

FIRST TEAM DEFENSE
DL P.J. Hall, Sam Houston State, Sr.
DL Darius Jackson, Jacksonville State, Sr.
DL Ebenezer Ogundeko, Tennessee State, Sr.
DL Anthony Ellis, Charleston Southern, Sr.
LB Brett Taylor, Western Illinois, Sr.
LB Darius Leonard, South Carolina State, Sr.
LB Garrett Dolan, Houston Baptist, Sr.
LB Nick DeLuca, North Dakota State, Sr.
DB Davontae Harris, Illinois State, Sr.
DB Cole Reyes, North Dakota, Sr.
DB Mike Basile, Monmouth, Sr.
DB Rob Rolle, Villanova, Sr.

FIRST TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Griffin Trau, Richmond, Jr.
P Ian Berryman, Western Carolina, Jr.
LS James Fisher, North Dakota State, Sr.
KR Harold Cooper, Rhode Island, Sr.
PR Khris Gardin, North Carolina A&T, Sr.
AP John Lovett, Princeton, Sr.

[Daytripper]

With all of the players transferring lately I thought I would put together an All-America team. This is just a rough draft and I have a 2nd and 3rd team as well but I thought I would post just the first team to get some dialogue going. DeLuca, Phillips, and Ogundeko likely would have made the 2016 postseason team if not for the injuries they suffered.

FIRST TEAM OFFENSE
WR Jake Wieneke, South Dakota State, Sr.
WR Justin Watson, Penn, Sr.
WR Kamron Lewis, Saint Francis (PA), Jr.
TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State, Sr.
OL Brandon Parker, North Carolina A&T, Sr.
OL Timon Parris, Stony Brook, Sr.
OL Daniel Cooney, San Diego, Jr.
OL Larry Allen Jr, Harvard, Sr.
OL Skyler Phillips, Idaho State, Sr.
QB Jeremiah Briscoe, Sam Houston State, Sr.
RB Chase Edmonds, Fordham, Sr.
RB John Santiago, North Dakota, Jr.
FB Joe Protheroe, Cal Poly, Sr.

FIRST TEAM DEFENSE
DL P.J. Hall, Sam Houston State, Sr.
DL Darius Jackson, Jacksonville State, Sr.
DL Ebenezer Ogundeko, Tennessee State, Sr.
DL Anthony Ellis, Charleston Southern, Sr.
LB Brett Taylor, Western Illinois, Sr.
LB Darius Leonard, South Carolina State, Sr.
LB Garrett Dolan, Houston Baptist, Sr.
LB Nick DeLuca, North Dakota State, Sr.
DB Davontae Harris, Illinois State, Sr.
DB Cole Reyes, North Dakota, Sr.
DB Mike Basile, Monmouth, Sr.
DB Rob Rolle, Villanova, Sr.

FIRST TEAM SPECIALISTS
K Griffin Trau, Richmond, Jr.
P Ian Berryman, Western Carolina, Jr.
RS Khris Gardin, North Carolina A&T, Sr.
AP John Lovett, Princeton, Sr.

Why even bother with a fullback? Only a handful of teams even have one on the roster. You should drop FB add another WR or RB.

[Daytripper]

Is Harvard's Larry Allen, Jr. the son of ex-Dallas Cowboys lineman Larry Allen?

[JSUSoutherner]

*cough* Marlon Bridges *cough*

[NorthChuckSouth]

Any list without a Long Snapper is irrelevant

[F'N Hawks]

Why even bother with a fullback? Only a handful of teams even have one on the roster. You should drop FB add another WR or RB.

Why bother? Because he is the greatest fullback in FCS history and him being out is the only reason Poly lost one of their games last year.

That's why. ;)

[smallcollegefbfan]

Why even bother with a fullback? Only a handful of teams even have one on the roster. You should drop FB add another WR or RB.

There are still some good ones so I try to list one. I refuse to let the position go extinct. A lot of conferences still honor them.

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Is Harvard's Larry Allen, Jr. the son of ex-Dallas Cowboys lineman Larry Allen?

Yes he is.

[smallcollegefbfan]

*cough* Marlon Bridges *cough*

I have him on the 2nd team.

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Any list without a Long Snapper is irrelevant

I have not seen enough of them yet to even come up with 2-3 real good ones but I so far have the NDSU LS as my best one. I could put him on here as a rough draft pick if you want.

[JSUSoutherner]

I have him on the 2nd team.

I can live with that.





Almost xcoffeex:D

[NorthChuckSouth]

I have him on the 2nd team.

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I have not seen enough of them yet to even come up with 2-3 real good ones but I so far have the NDSU LS as my best one. I could put him on here as a rough draft pick if you want.

Solid choice

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Pelletier....definitely over Watson

Zach Duffy is a 5th year guy that has AA potential too.

Lehigh SHOULD be better this year than last. Hopefully that allows for more publicity for Pelletier, Bragalone, Duffy and Mayes.

[F'N Hawks]

With all of the players transferring lately I thought I would put together an All-America team. This is just a rough draft and I have a 2nd and 3rd team as well but I thought I would post just the first team to get some dialogue going. DeLuca, Phillips, and Ogundeko likely would have made the 2016 postseason team if not for the injuries they suffered.

FIRST TEAM OFFENSE
WR Jake Wieneke, South Dakota State, Sr.
WR Justin Watson, Penn, Sr.
WR Kamron Lewis, Saint Francis (PA), Jr.
TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State, Sr.
OL Brandon Parker, North Carolina A&T, Sr.
OL Timon Parris, Stony Brook, Sr.
OL Daniel Cooney, San Diego, Jr.
OL Larry Allen Jr, Harvard, Sr.
OL Skyler Phillips, Idaho State, Sr.
QB Jeremiah Briscoe, Sam Houston State, Sr.
RB Chase Edmonds, Fordham, Sr.
RB John Santiago, North Dakota, Jr.
FB Joe Protheroe, Cal Poly, Sr.


It's plausible to put Santiago in there based on history but UND is going to play three RB's this year (barring injury) so his numbers will never be that great. Could be around 1,000 yards again, though.

[jmufan999]

JMU players who could be listed:

LT Aaron Stinnie (will be our best NFL prospect next year)
S Raven Greene
CB Jimmy Moreland
QB Bryan Schor
HB Marcus Marshall
TE Jonathan Kloosterman

I would have added DE Darrious Carter, but he may not get enough stats to warrant 1st Team consideration. he's arguably our best defensive player, though.

surprising to not see any Dukes, but as you mentioned, it's early. it's all good. xthumbsupx

[Thumper 76]

Why even bother with a fullback? Only a handful of teams even have one on the roster. You should drop FB add another WR or RB.

Have you seen the dude play? He's a ****ing beast, very deserving IMHO.


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[JSUSoutherner]

Have you seen the dude play? He's a ****ing beast, very deserving IMHO.


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Agree 100%

[FUBeAR]

Any list without a Long Snapper is irrelevant

Well, you would have LOVED the 2015 Pre-Season All-SoCon Team then. Had a Long Snapper on there filling an OL spot; listed as an OLman. xmadx

Let it go, BeAR...I'm trying....(sorry...self-talking) Ignore post - return to thread topic, please...

[smallcollegefbfan]

JMU players who could be listed:

LT Aaron Stinnie (will be our best NFL prospect next year)
S Raven Greene
CB Jimmy Moreland
QB Bryan Schor
HB Marcus Marshall
TE Jonathan Kloosterman

I would have added DE Darrious Carter, but he may not get enough stats to warrant 1st Team consideration. he's arguably our best defensive player, though.

surprising to not see any Dukes, but as you mentioned, it's early. it's all good. xthumbsupx

I have 3 of them on my 2nd or 3rd team.

[jmufan999]

I have 3 of them on my 2nd or 3rd team.

Schor, Greene, and Stinnie?

[citdog]

Why even bother with a fullback? Only a handful of teams even have one on the roster. You should drop FB add another WR or RB.

REALLY? Those Fullbacks outrush your running backs...

[KPSUL]

Why even bother with a fullback? Only a handful of teams even have one on the roster. You should drop FB add another WR or RB.
This brings up an important point What percentage of college football teams play a traditional fullback in anything but a goal line offense? I don't think it is more than 25%. probably less. Players in that position should be considered for All American or All Conference status as a RB. And whether you replace the FB with a third RB or a 4th WR is debatable; but if you were to count the number of plays run with 4 receivers vs 3 Running backs I'd wager 4 receivers would win the contest by a mile.

If you are going to list FB a separate AA category, than it would make just as much sense to include a Nose Tackle. Leo, Will or Whip as a separate category on the defensive side. There are as many downs played with guys with those position titles as there are FBs.

[citdog]

This brings up an important point What percentage of college football teams play a traditional fullback in anything but a goal line offense? I don't think it is more than 25%. probably less. Players in that position should be considered for All American or All Conference status as a RB. And whether you replace the FB with a third RB or a 4th WR is debatable; but if you were to count the number of plays run with 4 receivers vs 3 Running backs I'd wager 4 receivers would win the contest by a mile.

If you are going to list FB a separate AA category, than it would make just as much sense to include a Nose Tackle. Leo, Will or Whip as a separate category on the defensive side. There are as many downs played with guys with those position titles as there are FBs.

Yep guys like this deserve no recognition.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osIb2Df_A1E

[BadlandsGrizFan]

7 All Americans ehhhh.


JMU players who could be listed:

LT Aaron Stinnie (will be our best NFL prospect next year)
S Raven Greene
CB Jimmy Moreland
QB Bryan Schor
HB Marcus Marshall
TE Jonathan Kloosterman

I would have added DE Darrious Carter, but he may not get enough stats to warrant 1st Team consideration. he's arguably our best defensive player, though.

surprising to not see any Dukes, but as you mentioned, it's early. it's all good. xthumbsupx

[citdog]

This brings up an important point What percentage of college football teams play a traditional fullback in anything but a goal line offense? I don't think it is more than 25%. probably less. Players in that position should be considered for All American or All Conference status as a RB. And whether you replace the FB with a third RB or a 4th WR is debatable; but if you were to count the number of plays run with 4 receivers vs 3 Running backs I'd wager 4 receivers would win the contest by a mile.

If you are going to list FB a separate AA category, than it would make just as much sense to include a Nose Tackle. Leo, Will or Whip as a separate category on the defensive side. There are as many downs played with guys with those position titles as there are FBs.

It ain't a 6th wide receiver who is really getting screwed it is guys like this who will never have enough carries to be AA as RB's. This is Cam Jackson, who will be a Senior, and he's the best back you have never heard of.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UevE9cwNTro

[RichH2]

Pelletier....definitely over Watson

Zach Duffy is a 5th year guy that has AA potential too.

Lehigh SHOULD be better this year than last. Hopefully that allows for more publicity for Pelletier, Bragalone, Duffy and Mayes.

Casey also in the mix at WR.

[KPSUL]

Why bother? Because he is the greatest fullback in FCS history and him being out is the only reason Poly lost one of their games last year.

That's why. ;)

Greatest in FCS history? That's a joke right? Eric Breitenstein gained 5730 yards in his career at Wofford, 2035 in 2012, his Senior year.
He would have been a 1st Team AA with or without a separate FB position on the AA roster.

[KPSUL]

It ain't a 6th wide receiver who is really getting screwed it is guys like this who will never have enough carries to be AA as RB's. This is Cam Jackson, who will be a Senior, and he's the best back you have never heard of.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UevE9cwNTro

Hard to have 6 WRs on the field someone's got to take the snap. 5 WRs on the field it is probably more common now-a-days then QB plus 3 RBs. It's great to see a variety of different offenses, even more interesting when they match up against one another. But considering how the game is now played, 4 WRs is much more common than a backfield full of RBs. I'm suggesting what makes sense for an All American or Conference roster, not disparaging or picking one offensive system over another.

[JSUSoutherner]

REALLY? Those Fullbacks outrush your running backs...
He's just salty only one player from the best offense in football made the list. :D

[F'N Hawks]

Greatest in FCS history? That's a joke right? Eric Breitenstein gained 5730 yards in his career at Wofford, 2035 in 2012, his Senior year.
He would have been a 1st Team AA with or without a separate FB position on the AA roster.

I don't think you understand.

[dewey]

I don't think you understand.

Agreed. There was a lot of chatter last fall after UND beat Cal Poly that had the Cal Poly's FB played they would have beaten UND. That is where the sarcastic post came from not a legitimate he is the best of all time.

Dewey

[KPSUL]

Thanks for the explanation.

I must have missed the Cal Poly North Dakota chatter, but I don't pay much attention to woulda, coulda, shoulda discussions. However, Eric Breitenstein aptly illustrates how a FB can still be a First Team All American when there are only two RB positions on the roster.

[slostang]

Agreed. There was a lot of chatter last fall after UND beat Cal Poly that had the Cal Poly's FB played they would have beaten UND. That is where the sarcastic post came from not a legitimate he is the best of all time.

Dewey
My bet is most of that chatter came from NDSU fans trying to tweak UND fans and not from Cal Poly fans. I also remember some SDSU fans saying that because Protheroe ran for over 200 yards against them. This Cal Poly fan said that we might have lost by more if Protheroe had played because we would have ran more and the way to beat UND was throwing, not running.

[Panther88]

It ain't a 6th wide receiver who is really getting screwed it is guys like this who will never have enough carries to be AA as RB's. This is Cam Jackson, who will be a Senior, and he's the best back you have never heard of.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UevE9cwNTro

Good stuff, cit. Dedication & commitment to blocking and solid execution. Love to see that.

[ngineer]

Pelletier....definitely over Watson

Zach Duffy is a 5th year guy that has AA potential too.

Lehigh SHOULD be better this year than last. Hopefully that allows for more publicity for Pelletier, Bragalone, Duffy and Mayes.

Yes, all four of these guys should be in AA discussion. Casey at the other WR could get into the discussion, too.