The best players in history never to win a championship

[saint0917]

I don;t know if I would put Peyton Manning on that list, or Charles Barkley.
Where's Archie Manning?

When Peyton Manning's Colts meet Tom Brady's Patriots this Sunday in the AFC Championship Game, Manning will be trying to reach his first Super Bowl. That would be an essential step toward keeping him from someday joining the following list of "Best Players to Never Win a Championship." At age 30, of course, Manning should have more chances to salvage his big-game reputation a la John Elway. Then again, that's probably what these guys once thought. (We've restricted the list to retired athletes only, so please save the inevitable emails about Barry Bonds, A-Rod, Mark Martin, etc.)

The best players in history never to win a championship (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/pete_mcentegart/01/19/ten.spot/index.html?cnn=yes)

[AZGrizFan]

And from that same link, a MUCH more interesting (and visually appealing) article about a rocket scientist turned cheerleader....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/aditi_kinkhabwala/01/03/rocket.scientist/index.html##

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[lizrdgizrd]

Wow. Gotta check out page #2!

[NE MT GRIZZ]

Dan Marino and Ernie Banks are the two that stick out in my mind

[saint0917]

And from that same link, a MUCH more interesting (and visually appealing) article about a rocket scientist turned cheerleader....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/aditi_kinkhabwala/01/03/rocket.scientist/index.html##

:eek: :eek: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

O.K. stick to the subject, not that I'm complaining, she''s HOT :nod:

[Gil Dobie]

Ted Williams is the best by far,
Gale Sayers would be on my list.

[bulldog10jw]

Ted Williams is the best by far,
Gale Sayers would be on my list.

If Sayers is on the list, then Butkus has to be also. Same team, same era.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Karl Malone(John Stockton), Dan Marino, Mark Martin (Nascar), Tony Gwyn, and Dominick Hasek are first ones i thought of

[Marcus Garvey]

I don;t know if I would put Peyton Manning on that list, or Charles Barkley.
Where's Archie Manning?


Archie's not on this list. They requirment was that the player be "great" as well as not win a championship. Archie Manning was never great. The man threw 48 more INT's in his career than TD's!!!! Think about that!
I don't want to hear the argument that "He played on Gawd-awful teams!" David Carr's Texans are no better, and in 4 years, he's only thrown 6 more INT's than TD's. No where near "Archie" like numbers. Only twice did Archie throw more TD's: 1978 he was 17/16 TD/INT and in 1980, when he through 23 TD's, but still managed an astonishing 20 picks! :eek:
The last 3 years, Carr's TD-INT ratio has been 16/14; 14/11 and 11/12... a stretch of mediocrity Archie only dreamed of ever having!

Everytime I hear commentators remark that Eli doesn't look like his father, I think, "Are they on crack?" He looks exactly like his old man did! It's Peyton who has broken the mold.

I'm beginning to believe that the myth that Archie Manning was a "Great QB on a bad team" has been propogated by the man himself! The whole "Eli doesn't want to play in San Diego" thing is starting to make a whole lot more sense. He's just another High School Football dad who's pushing his son to make up for his own athletic failings. Only in this case, replace "High School" with "NFL."

[BlueHen86]

I don't think Pete Maravich ever won anything did he?
If not he's on my list.

[saint0917]

If Sayers is on the list, then Butkus has to be also. Same team, same era.

Butkus is on that list, he's number 10.

[saint0917]

Archie's not on this list. They requirment was that the player be "great" as well as not win a championship. Archie Manning was never great. The man threw 48 more INT's in his career than TD's!!!! Think about that!
I don't want to hear the argument that "He played on Gawd-awful teams!" David Carr's Texans are no better, and in 4 years, he's only thrown 6 more INT's than TD's. No where near "Archie" like numbers. Only twice did Archie throw more TD's: 1978 he was 17/16 TD/INT and in 1980, when he through 23 TD's, but still managed an astonishing 20 picks! :eek:
The last 3 years, Carr's TD-INT ratio has been 16/14; 14/11 and 11/12... a stretch of mediocrity Archie only dreamed of ever having!

Everytime I hear commentators remark that Eli doesn't look like his father, I think, "Are they on crack?" He looks exactly like his old man did! It's Peyton who has broken the mold.

I'm beginning to believe that the myth that Archie Manning was a "Great QB on a bad team" has been propogated by the man himself! The whole "Eli doesn't want to play in San Diego" thing is starting to make a whole lot more sense. He's just another High School Football dad who's pushing his son to make up for his own athletic failings. Only in this case, replace "High School" with "NFL."

O.K. maybe Archie Manning was a stretch, but he was on some bad teams. ;)

[EKU05]

In football it's probably some offensive lineman that none of us would ever think of. There are virtually no stats to show how good these guys are, but every team would be dead without them.

[ngineer]

Randall Cunningham was a great athlete. The 'triple threat'--run, pass and kick.

[Gil Dobie]

I don't think Pete Maravich ever won anything did he?
If not he's on my list.

I think he retired just before the Celtics won the Championship, similar to Elgin Baylor with the Lakers.

[TheValleyRaider]

Karl Malone(John Stockton), Dan Marino, Mark Martin (Nascar), Tony Gwyn, and Dominick Hasek are first ones i thought of

Hasek won a Cup with the Red Wings in 2002

[bulldog10jw]

Hasek won a Cup with the Red Wings in 2002

Didn't he win Olympic Gold, also?

[lambertjr]

Quote:
Originally Posted by AZGrizFan
And from that same link, a MUCH more interesting (and visually appealing) article about a rocket scientist turned ....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ist/index.html##


O.K. stick to the subject, not that I'm complaining, she''s HOT :nod:

Subject? How can I concentrate after seein....I mean reading that article.;)

I'll put my vote in for Dan Marino

[AZGrizFan]

O.K. stick to the subject, not that I'm complaining, she''s HOT :nod:

Sorry saint, not trying to hijack the thread.... :eyebrow: :p

[Marcus Garvey]

Randall Cunningham was a great athlete. The 'triple threat'--run, pass and kick.

Very true, but after he broke his leg in '91, he had a big ole' "yellow streak" down his back and ceased to be a consistently effective QB for the Eagles. He had flashes of glory (anyone remember that 40-8 stomping of eventual Super Bowl champion SF in '94?), but not very often.

I'm amazed at how many Eagles fans to this day seem to think that the Buddy Ryan/early Kotite era Eagles were "one or two" players away from the Super Bowl! They were 5 players away: the entire offensive line!

Randall Cunningham ran around so damn much because he had to. His O-line was dreadful and did a poor job protecting him.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Hasek won a Cup with the Red Wings in 2002

OOPS, i completely forgot about the Wings annihilation of the Canes that year. Didn't Hasek "retire" and then immediately come back to sign with Detroit that year?

[BrevardMountaineer03]

Danny Marino!!

[Grizzaholic]

How about Barry Sanders. Very Very good back, but he retired at 30. My opinion is good for him. He got his money and wanted to retire young and not have a beat up body had he played say 10 more years. But in the time he played, he was the man.

[NE MT GRIZZ]

If Barry had Dallas' offensive line in the 90's, he would have ran for 3000 yards/season

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Ellington Wadsworth III is widely regarded as the greatest American Polo player of all time. Sadly, he never won a championship and was recently killed in a freak lawn bowling accident. I'm pretty sure he attended a Patriot League school. :eyebrow:

http://static.flickr.com/45/169808896_c6fd07b1de_m.jpg

[BlueHen86]

Ellington Wadsworth III is widely regarded as the greatest American Polo player of all time. Sadly, he never won a championship and was recently killed in a freak lawn bowling accident. I'm pretty sure he attended a Patriot League school. :eyebrow:

http://static.flickr.com/45/169808896_c6fd07b1de_m.jpg
Very funny.xlolx
I'd have to rate him just ahead of Sidd Finch.;)

[DaveK]

The 2nd and 3rd greatest WRs in NFL history... Tim Brown and Cris Carter.

[BigApp]

Dan Fouts/Kellen Winslow

[NE MT GRIZZ]

Dan Fouts/Kellen Winslow


What about Chuck Muncie and those awesome sports goggles!

[BigApp]

he was good, no doubt!

[Gil Dobie]

The 2nd and 3rd greatest WRs in NFL history... Tim Brown and Cris Carter.

Who's number one, John Jefferson ;)