Projected I-AA Invites

[Josh]

I am board and trying to think of things you all might like to read.

Here is one thing I came up with. Let me know if you all have anything your curious on that I can tell ya.

Here is a list of players from I-AA who would would be on the watch list to get an invite and have the best chance based on grades. I know this is a lot but the list will get trimmed a good bit and a few players will show up that are not on it now.

CB Cletis Gordon Jackson State
FS/CB Shannon James Massachusetts
CB David Pittman Northwestern State
QB Erik Meyer Eastern Washington
WR Kelvin Dickens Morgan State
WR Eric Kimble Eastern Washington
DE Darrell Adams Villanova
K Jon Scifres SMS
CB Antonio Thomas Western Kentucky
ILB/OLB William Freeman Furman
QB Travis Lulay Montana State
RB Shelton Sampson Northwestern State
C Pascal Matla Eastern Illinois
DE Brady Fosmark Weber State
FS Antoine Bethea Howard
ILB Marcus Mikulec Sam Houston State
DE Chris Gocong Cal Poly
QB Ingle Martin Furman
DE Sean Conover Bucknell
FS A.J. Bryant Georgia Southern
OG Jeff Bolton Montana State
QB Richie Williams Appalachian State
WR Felton Huggins Southeastern Louisiana
C Antonio Narcisse Portland State
DE Adam O'Connor William & Mary
DE Stephen Bowen Hofstra
DT Tom Parks Delaware
DT Fred Evans Texas State
FS Reed Doughty Northern Colorado
OG Chad Motte Georgia Southern
OLB Brandon Smith Western Kentucky
OLB/DE Marvin Byrdsong Northwestern State
OT Ryan Gibbons Northeastern
OT Paul McQuistan Weber State
P Ryan Hoffman Illinois State
TE Daniel Fells UC Davis
TE Corey Roberts Sam Houston State
WR Marques Colston Hofstra
WR Miles Austin Monmouth
WR Toby Ziegler Northwestern State

[TxSt02]

I would also add K.R. Carpenter as Wes Welker (even though I cant stand Tech) type that is now on the Miami Dolphins...

K.R. is good anywhere on the field!

[Josh]

I would also add K.R. Carpenter as Wes Welker (even though I cant stand Tech) type that is now on the Miami Dolphins...

K.R. is good anywhere on the field!

To be honest the player getting more interest by scouts is Markee White. One of your fans talked about him a while back.

Carpenter is on the radar but to get signed, not the combine, as of now. Remember a lot can change and there is always someone who goes under the radar big time and no one in the media projects them so keep that in mind.

One player I will be getting more on is Miles Austin. He might get drafted. He is carrying a 5th round-PFA grade depending on the team you talk to.

[Tribe4SF]

I've assumed that Tom Parks of Delaware projects as a defensive end rather than at DT. Does that fit with what you're seeing?

[Josh]

I've assumed that Tom Parks of Delaware projects as a defensive end rather than at DT. Does that fit with what you're seeing?

He weighs 280, not 260 now and if he gets up to 295 he will play DT. He runs in the 5.10 range so he could stay at DT but if he improves his speed some and plays around 275-280 he would project to end more than likely.

[89Hen]

I am board
Mother? Cutting? Ironing? Skate? Surf? Bulletin? Chalk? Game? Chairman of the? :confused:

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

What about James Vernon Wr. Southern University

[Josh]

What about James Vernon Wr. Southern University

He is borderline. If he has a big year he could easily get on that list. He was one of 3 guys that I could have left on this list just as easily.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

He is borderline. If he has a big year he could easily get on that list. He was one of 3 guys that I could have left on this list just as easily.
And you have Felton Huggins on that list. Felton Huggins is no James Vernon. I have seen both play in high school and college. Its no comparision at all. Huggins was at Grambling and transferred because he couldn't get on the field. No reciever in 1-aa can run after the catch like Vernon. I have the tape of what he did to Cletis Gordon from Jackson State. I wish you could see it. I wish you could have seen the 7 on 7 with LSU. Our recievers killed them.

[GeauxLions94]

And you have Felton Huggins on that list. Felton Huggins is no James Vernon. I have seen both play in high school and college. Its no comparision at all. Huggins was at Grambling and transferred because he couldn't get on the field. No reciever in 1-aa can run after the catch like Vernon. I have the tape of what he did to Cletis Gordon from Jackson State. I wish you could see it. I wish you could have seen the 7 on 7 with LSU. Our recievers killed them.

I don't know when you saw Huggins in college, but let's face facts from 2004.

Vernon's stats (in 10 games)
56 catches, 730 yards, 13.0 avg., 6 TD, 64 Lg, 73.0 YPG

Huggins' stats (11 games)
84 catches, 1,313 yards, 15.6 avg., 13 TD, 78 Lg, 119.4 YPG

You're right SU ... Vernon is NO Felton Huggins! :bawling:

[Josh]

And you have Felton Huggins on that list. Felton Huggins is no James Vernon. I have seen both play in high school and college. Its no comparision at all. Huggins was at Grambling and transferred because he couldn't get on the field. No reciever in 1-aa can run after the catch like Vernon. I have the tape of what he did to Cletis Gordon from Jackson State. I wish you could see it. I wish you could have seen the 7 on 7 with LSU. Our recievers killed them.

Huggins is rated higher due to his size and speed factor. He has improved greatly. I think Vernon is good but are you sure your homerism is not clouding your judgement?

I am trying to be impartial here.... :D

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

I don't know when you saw Huggins in college, but let's face facts from 2004.

Vernon's stats (in 10 games)
56 catches, 730 yards, 13.0 avg., 6 TD, 64 Lg, 73.0 YPG

Huggins' stats (11 games)
84 catches, 1,313 yards, 15.6 avg., 13 TD, 78 Lg, 119.4 YPG

You're right SU ... Vernon is NO Felton Huggins! :bawling:
Vernon missed 4 games last season due to injury. He got hurt on the second drive during the Alcorn game and also the first drive of the Swac championship(same injury). Vernon was also double and triple teamed. Huggins is good (my family is from where his family is from) but he is no James Vernon.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Huggins is rated higher due to his size and speed factor. He has improved greatly. I think Vernon is good but are you sure your homerism is not clouding your judgement?

I am trying to be impartial here.... :D I can understand the size but Vernon is faster than Huggins.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Vernon was on pace, before the injury to have more yards than Huggins.
I will list the games and his totals from last season.

McNeese State vs Southern (Sep 04, 2004)
Receiving No. Yds TD Long
VERNON,James 8 145 1 32
Miss. Valley State vs Southern (Sep 11, 2004)
VERNON,James 8 60 1 17
Southern vs Prairie View A&M (Sep 17, 2004)
VERNON,James 5 56 0 18
South Dakota St. vs Southern (Sep 25, 2004)
VERNON,James 7 87 1 24
Southern vs Alabama State (Oct 02, 2004)
VERNON,James 4 101 2 64
Southern vs Alabama A&M (Oct 09, 2004)
VERNON,James 4 72 1 60
Jackson State vs Southern (Oct 16, 2004)
VERNON,James 11 134 0 27
Southern vs Alcorn State (Oct 23, 2004)
VERNON,James 4 27 0 14 (injured during second drive.)
Texas College vs Southern (Oct 30, 2004)
did not play
Texas Southern vs Southern (Nov 13, 2004)
did not play
Grambling State vs Southern (Nov 27, 2004)
VERNON,James 4 26 0 10(played but still injured)
Alabama State vs Southern (Dec 11, 2004)
VERNON,James 1 22 0 22 (re-injured on first drive, did not return)


Vernon basically put up his numbers in 7 games.

[Mr. C]

No offense to Vernon, but Huggins is a stud. He is extremely tough to cover and presents a nice package of size and speed. That's why most people have him listed among the top four or five receivers in the country (I-AA) and why he is a preseason All-American. Vernon has not arrived on the national radar screen yet as Huggins has.

[Retro]

Well, againest one common opponent Huggins clearly out did vernon.

againest Mcneese

Huggins: 13 catches, 235 yds, 2 TD's..

Vernon: 8 catches, 145 yds, 1 TD


againest Miss Valley St.

Huggins: 8 catches, 131 yds, 0 TD

Vernon: 8 catches, 60 yds, 1 TD

againest Alcorn St.

Huggins: 6 catches, 77 yds, 1 TD

Vernon: 4 catches, 27 yds, 0 TD

againest Texas College

Huggins: 4 catches, 71 yds, 1 TD

Vernon: DNP

[nlwwln]

swami you ever heard of chris turner out of wagner? tall fast reciver with all the physical tools. 6-3 220

[Josh]

swami you ever heard of chris turner out of wagner? tall fast reciver with all the physical tools. 6-3 220

I have heard of him. Miles Austin is the man getting NFL interest instead of Turner but Turner does have great size.

[golionsgo]

And you have Felton Huggins on that list. Felton Huggins is no James Vernon. I have seen both play in high school and college. Its no comparision at all. Huggins was at Grambling and transferred because he couldn't get on the field. No reciever in 1-aa can run after the catch like Vernon. I have the tape of what he did to Cletis Gordon from Jackson State. I wish you could see it. I wish you could have seen the 7 on 7 with LSU. Our recievers killed them.


You obviously don't know as much about Felton Huggins as you think you do.

First of all, he was a QB in high school and did not start playing WR until he transferred to Southeastern. He literally learned on the job in 2003. Secondly, while at Grambling, he was underdeveloped physically and played DB.

Furthermore, Southeastern and Southern played three common opponents in 2004 and the Huggins/Vernon breakdown goes as follows:

MCNEESE STATE (SLU 51, McNeese 17, McNeese 35, Southern 17)
Huggins.............13 rec, 235 yards, 2 TDs
Vernon..............8 rec, 145 yards, 1 TD

MISSISSIPPI VALLEY STATE (SLU 33, Valley 17, Southern 17, Valley 14)
Huggins.............8 rec, 131 yards, 0 TDs
Vernon..............8 rec, 60 yards, 1 TDs

ALCORN STATE (Alcorn 33, SLU 27, Southern 23, Alcorn 20)
Huggins.............6 rec, 77 yards, 1 TD
Vernon..............4 rec, 27 yards, 0 TD

3 GAME TOTALS
Huggins............27 rec, 443 yards, 3 TDs
Vernon.............20 rec, 232 yards, 2 TDs


I also saw James Vernon play at Glen Oaks high school and I attended the Southern/McNeese game last year. I agree with you that he's an exciting player, but compared to Felton Huggins, the numbers speak for themselves.

[Josh]

You obviously don't know as much about Felton Huggins as you think you do.

First of all, he was a QB in high school and did not start playing WR until he transferred to Southeastern. He literally learned on the job in 2003. Secondly, while at Grambling, he was underdeveloped physically and played DB.

Furthermore, Southeastern and Southern played three common opponents in 2004 and the Huggins/Vernon breakdown goes as follows:

MCNEESE STATE (SLU 51, McNeese 17, McNeese 35, Southern 17)
Huggins.............13 rec, 235 yards, 2 TDs
Vernon..............8 rec, 145 yards, 1 TD

MISSISSIPPI VALLEY STATE (SLU 33, Valley 17, Southern 17, Valley 14)
Huggins.............8 rec, 131 yards, 0 TDs
Vernon..............8 rec, 60 yards, 1 TDs

ALCORN STATE (Alcorn 33, SLU 27, Southern 23, Alcorn 20)
Huggins.............6 rec, 77 yards, 1 TD
Vernon..............4 rec, 27 yards, 0 TD

3 GAME TOTALS
Huggins............27 rec, 443 yards, 3 TDs
Vernon.............20 rec, 232 yards, 2 TDs


I also saw James Vernon play at Glen Oaks high school and I attended the Southern/McNeese game last year. I agree with you that he's an exciting player, but compared to Felton Huggins, the numbers speak for themselves.


Your right. Huggins has certainly put up bigger numbers for sure but Vernon is a great player.

I would love to see these two on the same team!

[golionsgo]

Vernon missed 4 games last season due to injury. He got hurt on the second drive during the Alcorn game and also the first drive of the Swac championship(same injury). Vernon was also double and triple teamed. Huggins is good (my family is from where his family is from) but he is no James Vernon.


You don't think Huggins was double and triple teamed???? After the McNeese game, he was literally blanketed the rest of the year and still put up numbers.

Secondly, how was Vernon ever on pace to have more yardage than Huggins???? Under no scenario, injured or not, can you make that claim stand up rationally.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

You obviously don't know as much about Felton Huggins as you think you do.

First of all, he was a QB in high school and did not start playing WR until he transferred to Southeastern. He literally learned on the job in 2003. Secondly, while at Grambling, he was underdeveloped physically and played DB.

Furthermore, Southeastern and Southern played three common opponents in 2004 and the Huggins/Vernon breakdown goes as follows:

MCNEESE STATE (SLU 51, McNeese 17, McNeese 35, Southern 17)
Huggins.............13 rec, 235 yards, 2 TDs
Vernon..............8 rec, 145 yards, 1 TD

MISSISSIPPI VALLEY STATE (SLU 33, Valley 17, Southern 17, Valley 14)
Huggins.............8 rec, 131 yards, 0 TDs
Vernon..............8 rec, 60 yards, 1 TDs

ALCORN STATE (Alcorn 33, SLU 27, Southern 23, Alcorn 20)
Huggins.............6 rec, 77 yards, 1 TD
Vernon..............4 rec, 27 yards, 0 TD

3 GAME TOTALS
Huggins............27 rec, 443 yards, 3 TDs
Vernon.............20 rec, 232 yards, 2 TDs


I also saw James Vernon play at Glen Oaks high school and I attended the Southern/McNeese game last year. I agree with you that he's an exciting player, but compared to Felton Huggins, the numbers speak for themselves.Do you honestly think Huggins is better than Vernon. Southern had a excellent running game along with other recievers . SLU basically passed everydown. Not taking anything away from Huggins great player but he is no JV.

[golionsgo]

Do you honestly think Huggins is better than Vernon. Southern had a excellent running game along with other recievers . SLU basically passed everydown. Not taking anything away from Huggins great player but he is no JV.


Yes I do think he's better than James Vernon, and so do a lot of other people who have seen them both play, including a couple of NFL scouts who I know personally. Huggins is taller, a better leaper, and can get deep on anybody in the country. Additionally, he's still learning to play WR which is scary. Again, I'm not saying Vernon is not a good player, I just wouldn't trade Huggins for him.

And obviously you don't know much about our team. We had four guys catch 40 or more balls and eight catch 20 or more balls, so we definitely spread it around. We also had an 1,100 yard rusher.

[GeauxLions94]

I would love to see these two on the same team!

I would too :D Wonder if Vernon would like to transfer to Southeastern and be part of the Air Raid :p

[Josh]

I would too :D Wonder if Vernon would like to transfer to Southeastern and be part of the Air Raid :p

If he doesn't I will!!!!..... :D

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

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Here is a list of guys who would be drafted for sure if the draft was today according to the 2 NFL scouting services.

There are a good bit of guys on the borderline and I project some of those to get picked and a couple of these to not get picked when all is said and done.

1- Day 1
2- Day 2
3- 7th-PFA- not listed on here but I can if wanted.

18 players who should get drafted this year based off this.

CB Darren Barnett who is at a JC right now but will go 3rd round if he gets his grades in order and goes back to school. He played at SMS last year and was an All-American.



4 CB Cletis Gordon Jackson State 6014 197 4.43/4.44 Sr. 1
6 FS/CB Shannon James Massachusetts 5090 203 4.45/4.49 Sr. 1
2 WR Kelvin Dickens Morgan State 6026 210 4.42/.4.48 Sr. 2
4 CB David Pittman Northwestern State 5110 175 4.42/4.45 Sr. 2
9 RB David Horne Northern Iowa 6000 200 4.4E Sr. 2
90 DE Darrell Adams Villanova 6040 270 4.85E Sr. 2
22 FS Darren Williams Jacksonville State 6016 211 4.56/4.61 Sr. 2
64 OG Jeff Bolton Montana State 6032 302 5.22 Sr. 2
32 WR Eric Kimble Eastern Washington 5104 204 4.54 Sr. 2
15 QB Ingle Martin Furman 6027 223 4.52/4.60 Sr. 2
71 OG/C Chad Motte Georgia Southern 6033 304 5.3 Sr. 2
70 OT Ryan Gibbons Northeastern 6060 325 Sr. 2
32 OLB/DE Marvin Byrdsong Northwestern State 6021 247 4.59/4.65 Sr. 2
4 WR James Vernon Southern 6000 175 Sr. 222 RB Travis Glasford Western Illinois 5105 190 4.45 Sr. 2
53 DE Chris Gocong Cal Poly 6024 263 4.75/4.78 Sr. 2
13 FS A.J. Bryant Georgia Southern 6024 198 4.59/4.61 Sr. 2

[Josh]

Well that list has him based off a watch list from the NFL but he is on a few teams boards to get drafted but based on getting everything I have seen he would be a late 7th rounder possibly but more than likely will sign a FA deal.