Grambling State vs North Carolina Central in the Celebration Bowl

[ASU33]

The Celebration Bowl will once gain kick off the Bowl season on ABC but this one comes with a lot more hype and build up than last year. This year we undeniably the best two teams from each conference which was questionable last year.

[Professor]

Wonder if the attendance will be bigger than last year

[GAD]

Should be a good game ESPN did a great job last year with 2 hours of pregame hype

[WileECoyote06]

Got my ticket. xdrunkyx

[kdinva]

Should be a good game ESPN did a great job last year with 2 hours of pregame hype

....which means 5-1/2 hours of non-stop Jay Walker........who never (that I have heard) speculates how these two teams would do in the National playoff......

[ASU33]

Wonder if the attendance will be bigger than last year

I'm guessing it'll be right around that 35k mark again. Does NCCU have a traveling contingency like A&T?

[WileECoyote06]

Historically no. But I still think they'll do 30K+ and amazing viewership numbers.

[eaglesdare]

I would expect a lot of local BANDwagoners since Grambling is showing up.

[ASU33]

I would expect a lot of local BANDwagoners since Grambling is showing up.

True. The name Grambling is a big draw.

[ASU33]

Historically no. But I still think they'll do 30K+ and amazing viewership numbers.

North of 28,000 tickets sold so far according to the AJC this morning. This is about what was sold a year ago, so they're expecting another crowd of around 33-37k again this year.

[McNeese72]

Geaux Grambling and Coach Fobbs!!!!!!


Doc

[PurpleStreamers]

Bummed the Aggies crapped out again vs. NCCU, but definitely better to have the best teams this year. Haven't seen Grambling this year, but their scores make it look like it should be a fun game

[WestCoastAggie]

F NCCU!

[WileECoyote06]

Let it go WestCoastAggie. Show some love for your MEAC brethren. .

[F'N Hawks]

How do the MEAC and SWAC usually matchup? Pretty even as far as talent and teams or is one conference better than the other?

[WileECoyote06]

How do the MEAC and SWAC usually matchup? Pretty even as far as talent and teams or is one conference better than the other?

It's difficult to tell because the most recent matchups have rarely featured champion level teams vs each other. The SWAC was clearly a superior conference in the 1990s, but lately the MEAC has dominated the SWAC in matchups. The last five years has the MEAC with a 12 - 2 edge.

[ASU33]

How do the MEAC and SWAC usually matchup? Pretty even as far as talent and teams or is one conference better than the other?

The MEAC has had the upper hand as of late.

[F'N Hawks]

I see Grambling is a 15 point favorite.

[ASU33]

I just watched a snippet of Malcolm Bell's interview on ESPNU that's supposed to air on the pregame show. Impressive young man!

[DeltaDevil662]

This could be a coming out party for Carter on a national stage a la Cohen for A&T last year.

MEAC defenses lately have been better than SWAC defense (outside of the 2012 MVSU team) but the Grambling defense is just as loaded. The difference is that Grambling has better talent on the offensive side but we'll see how they stack up against NCCU's good defense.

[WestCoastAggie]

Go Grambling!

[woffordgrad94]

Wouldn't you rather be in the FCs playoffs with a shot at a national title than play in this low tier bowl game that will probably get very low ratings?

[GAD]

Wouldn't you rather be in the FCs playoffs with a shot at a national title than play in this low tier bowl game that will probably get very low ratings?
Sure but you need to move the opening round of the playoffs off Bayou Classic weekend

[jsnow84]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[ASU33]

Wouldn't you rather be in the FCs playoffs with a shot at a national title than play in this low tier bowl game that will probably get very low ratings?

The Celebration Bowl Ratings and attendance was better than ANY playoff game last year. So would we rather play on ESPN3 with awful ratings in a stadium with 6,000 people or play on ABC, with Sports Center doing a live show on location, exposure for our schools, in a bowl atmosphere in Atlanta with 35,000+ people? Not to mention the Bowl payout compared to losing money in the playoffs. Hmmmmm you tell me.

[ming01]

Is Grambling really a 15.5 favorite? I can see NCCU winning this.

[ASU33]

Is Grambling really a 15.5 favorite? I can see NCCU winning this.

Let's be honest, I seriously doubt that the people who've set this line have watched Grambling or NCCU play this season.

[WileECoyote06]

Let's be honest, I seriously doubt that the people who've set this line have watched Grambling or NCCU play this season.

We were also 13.5 point dogs to A&T. Our schedule is weak this year and Grambling has been dominant against SWAC teams (except Alcorn), so all the 'analytics' say they should win convincingly. Oh well. . . we'll see.

[ASU33]

We were also 13.5 point dogs to A&T. Our schedule is weak this year and Grambling has been dominant against SWAC teams (except Alcorn), so all the 'analytics' say they should win convincingly. Oh well. . . we'll see.

I guess. If Grambling plays the way that they played against Alcorn this game will be over at the half.

[WestCoastAggie]

We were also 13.5 point dogs to A&T. Our schedule is weak this year and Grambling has been dominant against SWAC teams (except Alcorn), so all the 'analytics' say they should win convincingly. Oh well. . . we'll see.

Those odds were made before we lost our starting QB and forgot how to complete a forward pass.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Let's be honest, I seriously doubt that the people who've set this line have watched Grambling or NCCU play this season.


.......IN DUH REAL WORLD......VEGAS KNOWS ALL.........IFIN' DUCATS....ARE ON DUH TABLE............BROCCO!

[McNeese75]

I would not be surprised to see Grambling exceed the Vegas Line.

[ASU33]

.......IN DUH REAL WORLD......VEGAS KNOWS ALL.........IFIN' DUCATS....ARE ON DUH TABLE............BROCCO!

Very true!

[ASU33]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWyJ3bX4N10


Nice breakdown of the game

[superman7515]

Nice breakdown on the game

That dude is persona non grata around these parts.

[ASU33]

The two coaches had nice interviews on The Tom Joyner Show and The Steve Harvey Show this morning. Also the guys will meet and talk to HBCU legends such as Jerry Rice, Aneas Williams, Michael Strahan, and others today at the Celebration Bowl Luncheon hosted by ESPN and Doug Williams.

http://blackamericaweb.com/2016/12/15/the-two-best-hbcu-football-programs-face-off-in-the-celebration-bowl/

[ASU33]

http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/127469/infographic-north-carolina-central-grambling-in-celebration-bowl

[Execute008]

I would not be surprised to see Grambling exceed the Vegas Line.


I wouldn't be surprised either. I hope its a good game. I think Grambling is going to roll though. That offense is high powered, but i haven't seen one game of nc central either. I'm just going off looking at the team schedule and comparing stats.

[GAD]

ALRIGHT! HERE WE GO

[Panther88]

Lets go GSU. Bring it back for the SWAC.

[McNeese75]

Lets go GSU. Bring it back for the SWAC. xthumbsupx

[GAD]

Gram having trouble blocking NCCU front 4

[Laker]

This play will be reviewed.

[Laker]

Blocked field goal- Central still up 3-0.

[PantherRob82]

Enjoying the game, and I get the appeal for the conferences, but the crowd looks even worse than last year.

[Schism55]

Watched for 5 minutes, had my yearly fill of Jay Walker

[GAD]

INT Gram

[Bison56]

xnutsxJay Walker

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Why wouldn't they review that int?

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Why wouldn't they review that int?

[Schism55]

Also ABC, might not want to show the wide shot of the stadium again, 80% empty seats is not a good look.

[PantherRob82]

Watched for 5 minutes, had my yearly fill of Jay Walker

Mute. xlolx

[PantherRob82]

Would attendance be better if they moved it back a week or moved it closer to the SWAC?

[kdinva]

Watched for 5 minutes, had my yearly fill of Jay Walker

xlolx

has he tried to compare how Grambling would fare vs. JMU, NDSU, EWU, et al...?

[kdinva]

Would attendance be better if they moved it back a week or moved it closer to the SWAC?

to where? Mobile? Legion Field? Anywhere in Mississippi would "benefit" the SWAC team and its followers......I M O...

[dcpsujag]

Hard to judge attendance without southern or famu playing in the game once.

[lionsrking2]

Hard to judge attendance without southern or famu playing in the game once.

There's still more people at this game than will have attended any FCS playoff game, including NC game.

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That will be play of the day

[kdinva]

There's still more people at this game than will have attended any FCS playoff game, including NC game.


the only way to compare that is to play these two games in similar (capacity) stadiums....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

#3 cost his team the game....

[Schism55]

The level of play in this game is....uhh....poor to be kind.

[dcpsujag]

Nc Central scores, player celebrates, gets unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, 32yrd pat attempt blocked. Crazy

[lionsrking2]

the only way to compare that is to play these two games in similar (capacity) stadiums....

Not comparing. Merely stating a fact. More people attended the Celebration Bowl than any playoff game.

[citdog]

the Celebration Bowl

Was decided by excessive celebration....


Can't make **** like that up

[MTfan4life]

It's gotta be ironic that one of the reasons North Carolina Central lost the game was because of excessive celebration. xlolx That guy ran all over the field as if he'd just scored the winning goal in the World Cup. Imagine how wild he would've celebrated if he had pulled off a much more difficult touchdown reception!


Was decided by excessive celebration....


Can't make **** like that up

You beat me to it!

[DSUrocks07]

Was decided by excessive celebration....


Can't make **** like that up
So I guess Gram advances to the Irony Bowl next?

Sent using Tapatalk because 89Hen hates this.

[kdinva]

Box score lists attendnace as 31,090.....that is tickets sold? from the TV angles, looked closer to about 20,000 folks there in person....

[WestCoastAggie]

That dude is persona non grata around these parts.

What happened Supe?

[WestCoastAggie]

Was decided by excessive celebration....


Can't make **** like that up

Poetic Justice! F Central! No love lost here.

[Execute008]

Was decided by excessive celebration....


Can't make **** like that up


That's hilarious.

[lionsrking2]

Was decided by excessive celebration....


Can't make **** like that up

Irony in it's purest form.

[lionsrking2]

Box score lists attendnace as 31,090.....that is tickets sold? from the TV angles, looked closer to about 20,000 folks there in person....

My guess is closer to 25k. Georgia Dome seats 71-74k depending on layout. Looked to be roughly 1/3 filled. Regardless, it's better actual attendance than a lot of FBS bowl games and more than any FCS playoff game. Not bad for two schools with combined enrollment of less than 15k.

[PantherRob82]

There's still more people at this game than will have attended any FCS playoff game, including NC game.

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That will be play of the day

There is not more people there than a game in Fargo. Tickets sold, yes. Butts in seats, no way.

[Panther88]

Attendance 31096. Not bad at all.

[CommishBigSmooth]

The level of play in this game is....uhh....poor to be kind.

Poor is right. That was not quality football at all. Especially the end.

[ASU33]

Enjoying the game, and I get the appeal for the conferences, but the crowd looks even worse than last year.

Last year there was 36k and some change, there was 31k this year. We'd be jumping up and down if the FCS title game drew those numbers.

[Twentysix]

Last year there was 36k and some change, there was 31k this year. We'd be jumping up and down if the FCS title game drew those numbers.

Every single championship NDSU was in could have easily drawn 31k if it were in a stadium that had the seating.

We'll see what attendance is like this year.

[ASU33]

Would attendance be better if they moved it back a week or moved it closer to the SWAC?

Two years both over 30k, not sure how much better attendance can be without Southern, FAMU, or Jackson State.

[WestCoastAggie]

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/send-nccu-back-to-division-ii

And it begins! I really think an Aggie started this. xcoffeex

[WileECoyote06]

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/send-nccu-back-to-division-ii

And it begins! I really think an Aggie started this. xcoffeex

Nah that was one of those dudes in the MEAC vs SWAC trash talk group on FB.

[ASU33]

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/send-nccu-back-to-division-ii

And it begins! I really think an Aggie started this. xcoffeex

Oh wow!

I met a few Aggies at the dome today who showed up for the sole purpose of booing the hell out of Central.

[PantherRob82]

Last year there was 36k and some change, there was 31k this year. We'd be jumping up and down if the FCS title game drew those numbers.

It didn't draw those numbers. That many tickets were sold to fans AND SPONSORS. I think this game is cool. Not talking down at all. The crowd just looks like garbage. If anyone wants to argue numbers I am glad to volunteer to go count physical attendance next year if someone wants to pick me up a plane ticket, hotel and a game ticket. xlolx

[ASU33]

It didn't draw those numbers. That many tickets were sold to fans AND SPONSORS. I think this game is cool. Not talking down at all. The crowd just looks like garbage. If anyone wants to argue numbers I am glad to volunteer to go count physical attendance next year if someone wants to pick me up a plane ticket, hotel and a game ticket. xlolx

It did. The number reported was only was was scanned in by the ticket counters. The Celebration Bowl actually sold close to 38,000 tickets this year. Still a better crowd the EVERY playoff game played and the FCS title game.

[Schism55]

It did. The number reported was only was was scanned in by the ticket counters. The Celebration Bowl actually sold close to 38,000 tickets this year. Still a better crowd the EVERY playoff game played and the FCS title game.
Did you see the shots of the entire stadium? No ****ing way there was 31k there.

[crossfire07]

They didn't cover up all of those seats for nothing. I watched it until they spoke of 4th best offense in FCS and then I remembered I am no longer going to watch fake news.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

1. How, as an official, do you call that excessive celebration penalty?

2. How does NCCU leave Grambling's DE basically unimpeded to their kicker on the long XP?

[Schism55]

1. How, as an official, do you call that excessive celebration penalty?

2. How does NCCU leave Grambling's DE basically unimpeded to their kicker on the long XP?
The quality of play by both teams in this game was atrocious, that is how.

[Bison56]

It did. The number reported was only was was scanned in by the ticket counters. The Celebration Bowl actually sold close to 38,000 tickets this year. Still a better crowd the EVERY playoff game played and the FCS title game.

Better crowd, but terrible product.

[ASU33]

Did you see the shots of the entire stadium? No ****ing way there was 31k there.

I was there live and in person. I didn't need to see television shots.

[dcpsujag]

Gramblings offence was crazy good this year so no their numbers are not fake.

[Schism55]

I was there live and in person. I didn't need to see television shots.
Why Science Tells Us Not to Rely on Eyewitness Accounts

Eyewitness testimony is fickle and, all too often, shockingly inaccurate.

[ASU33]

Grambling's bottom level was full from goal line to goal line and they had quite a few people in the 200 level seats. Once again you just gotta love when people from 800 miles away try to tell you about an event they you ACTUALLY attended.

[ASU33]

On another note, officials were saying that the excessive celebration shouldn't have been called on NCCU because of the player being off of the field of play when the foul took place? Any of you know the actual rule on this?

[lionsrking2]

There is not more people there than a game in Fargo. Tickets sold, yes. Butts in seats, no way.

Of course there was. By several thousand.

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

On another note, officials were saying that the excessive celebration shouldn't have been called on NCCU because of the player being off of the field of play when the foul took place? Any of you know the actual rule on this?

I don't know that actual rule, but was wondering about when the penalty was applied. A few years ago a Villanova QB did a somersault as he crossed the goal line on a TD run in a game at UNH. The penalty was invoked on the kickoff, not the PAT. When did they change it to be applied on the PAT? With the reputation the MEAC officials have, I couldn't help but think they screwed up the call.

[ASU33]

I don't know that actual rule, but was wondering about when the penalty was applied. A few years ago a Villanova QB did a somersault as he crossed the goal line on a TD run in a game at UNH. The penalty was invoked on the kickoff, not the PAT. When did they change it to be applied on the PAT? With the reputation the MEAC officials have, I couldn't help but think they screwed up the call.

The refs were a Mountain West crew. I was thinking that since the helmet removal happened off of the field of play then a flag shouldn't have been thrown.

[PantherRob82]

When we played UNH in the Dome in 2008(?), they scored to take a late lead and one of their players did something similar with no flag. I may not have seen the whole play, but it did not seem like the right call yesterday.

[citdog]

Should excessive celebration not have been called on Abdullah when he was doing pushups after he scored on Fri night in the Fargodome? He was off the field....


I have an idea....How about act like you have been there before and expect to be there again by handing the damn ball to the ref and celebrating with your teammates on the bench?

[ASU33]

We got any refs on the board?

[ASU33]

When we played UNH in the Dome in 2008(?), they scored to take a late lead and one of their players did something similar with no flag. I may not have seen the whole play, but it did not seem like the right call yesterday.

From what I was told today, he was flagged for removing his helmet while being outside of the coaching box on the sidelines. Usually this isn't called but by rule it was the right call.

[PantherRob82]

From what I was told today, he was flagged for removing his helmet while being outside of the coaching box on the sidelines. Usually this isn't called but by rule it was the right call.

That sounds like the right call if the rule is written that way. :)

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

From what I was told today, he was flagged for removing his helmet while being outside of the coaching box on the sidelines. Usually this isn't called but by rule it was the right call.

Including marking off the yards on the PAT rather than the kick off????

[ASU33]

Including marking off the yards on the PAT rather than the kick off????

Grambling got the choice to have the penalty marked off on the PAT or on the kickoff

[WileECoyote06]

It was the right call. I've always said the Ques were going to ruin the school one day.

xlolx

And I was there too. I'd estimate around 30K..

[ASU33]

It was the right call. I've always said the Ques were going to ruin the school one day.

xlolx

And I was there too. I'd estimate around 30K..

Its always the Ques! Jabrill Peppers up there at Michigan throws the hooks so much that the white folks up there thought it was some sort of dance. Lol.😂😂😂😂😂😂

[ASU33]

It was the right call. I've always said the Ques were going to ruin the school one day.

xlolx

And I was there too. I'd estimate around 30K..

My complaints about yesterday was that the 100 level seats should've been filled before people were allowed in the 200 level seats. Seating was kinda spread out which looked bad on TV.

[Professor]

I was there. Nice crowd.

What you have to also understand , HBCU football games are also social events. So its a lot of people on the concourse walking and talking.

[PantherRob82]

I was there. Nice crowd.

What you have to also understand , HBCU football games are also social events. So its a lot of people on the concourse walking and talking.

We hear it every year so we get it, it just looks stupid on TV. xlolx

[ASU33]

I was there. Nice crowd.

What you have to also understand , HBCU football games are also social events. So its a lot of people on the concourse walking and talking.

It was too many in my opinion. I guess that what happens when you have that many people who's team wasn't in the game.

[Professor]

We hear it every year so we get it, it just looks stupid on TV. xlolx

Check clears,thats about all that matters

[WileECoyote06]

My complaints about yesterday was that the 100 level seats should've been filled before people were allowed in the 200 level seats. Seating was kinda spread out which looked bad on TV.

Nah, I sat in the 200s. Access to restaurants and alcohol. And when my infant got fussy, we were able to carry him out and sit down in the lounges. I'm buying club level from now on.

[ASU33]

Nah, I sat in the 200s. Access to restaurants and alcohol. And when my infant got fussy, we were able to carry him out and sit down in the lounges. I'm buying club level from now on.

So what did you think about the way you guys played? I thought NCCU made some uncharacteristic mistakes. It seems you guys did a lot of "whoofing" back and forth with Grambling.

[PantherRob82]

Check clears,thats about all that matters

Who needs to look good as long as the check clears? I think you just summarized all MEAC and SWAC sports in one sentence.

[ASU33]

Who needs to look good as long as the check clears? I think you just summarized all MEAC and SWAC sports in one sentence.

http://www.hbcugameday.com/2016/12/celebration-bowl-tv-ratings-up-from.html?m=1

The Celebration Bowl just pulled a 2.0 as far as the ratings. Over 31k in attendance and over 38k tickets sold. Grambling and NCCU walked away with $1million dollars a piece and my school got $35,000 for staying at home. I just went through a thread where folks were complaining about the money lost during the playoffs. Sounds like you should follow our lead.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Who needs to look good as long as the check clears? I think you just summarized all MEAC and SWAC sports in one sentence.

Not to mention 95% of the Bowl system in general

[WileECoyote06]

So what did you think about the way you guys played? I thought NCCU made some uncharacteristic mistakes. It seems you guys did a lot of "whoofing" back and forth with Grambling.

I think we were just as talented as Grambling, if not more. Our defense played great, and the offense was plagued by mistake after mistake. A dropped touchdown pass; two dropped passes that would have extended drives; two dropped interceptions; two interceptions and a fumble; a missed field goal and blocked extra point.

The woofing back and forth was directly related to being 15 - 18 point underdogs, so it didn't bother me much. Ironically, the Grambling D-line was arguing among itself a few times during the second half too.

[ASU33]

I think we were just as talented as Grambling, if not more. Our defense played great, and the offense was plagued by mistake after mistake. A dropped touchdown pass; two dropped passes that would have extended drives; two dropped interceptions; two interceptions and a fumble; a missed field goal and blocked extra point.

The woofing back and forth was directly related to being 15 - 18 point underdogs, so it didn't bother me much. Ironically, the Grambling D-line was arguing among itself a few times during the second half too.

Those dropped passes came back to be HUGE! Especially that dropped TD pass. I felt that the defense never had any outside containment on those QB scrambles. The defense made plays when they needed to though, but I didn't expect NCCUs run game to struggle the way that it did. People want to blame #3 for the way the game ended but honestly if you look at the PAT that was caused by I missed blocking assignment.

[PantherRob82]

http://www.hbcugameday.com/2016/12/celebration-bowl-tv-ratings-up-from.html?m=1

The Celebration Bowl just pulled a 2.0 as far as the ratings. Over 31k in attendance and over 38k tickets sold. Grambling and NCCU walked away with $1million dollars a piece and my school got $35,000 for staying at home. I just went through a thread where folks were complaining about the money lost during the playoffs. Sounds like you should follow our lead.

There are also plenty of threads about poor attendance or stadiums looking empty compared to reported attendance. ;)

[1984]

Bowl games? Bowl games! We dont need no stinking Bowl games in FCS.

[superman7515]

Bowl games? Bowl games! We dont need no stinking Bowl games in FCS.

The name for the 1AA Championship Game was the Camellia Bowl back when 1AA kicked off, and both the semifinals games were bowl games as well, but the names escape me.

[ASU33]

There are also plenty of threads about poor attendance or stadiums looking empty compared to reported attendance. ;)


Good for themxcoffeex

[ASU33]

The name for the 1AA Championship Game was the Camellia Bowl back when 1AA kicked off, and both the semifinals games were bowl games as well, but the names escape me.


I didn't know that. Wow you learn something new everyday.xnodx

[gsf23nd]

Last year there was 36k and some change, there was 31k this year. We'd be jumping up and down if the FCS title game drew those numbers.

Was that actual attendance or tickets sold? Not really all that impressed with a bunch of companies buying 10,000 tickets and none getting used.

[gsf23nd]

http://www.hbcugameday.com/2016/12/celebration-bowl-tv-ratings-up-from.html?m=1

The Celebration Bowl just pulled a 2.0 as far as the ratings. Over 31k in attendance and over 38k tickets sold. Grambling and NCCU walked away with $1million dollars a piece and my school got $35,000 for staying at home. I just went through a thread where folks were complaining about the money lost during the playoffs. Sounds like you should follow our lead.

yup, just all about the money, not about finding the best team..

[ASU33]

Was that actual attendance or tickets sold? Not really all that impressed with a bunch of companies buying 10,000 tickets and none getting used.

Tickets sold was 38,523. The number reported was tickets scanned on Saturday afternoon.

[ASU33]

Wouldn't you rather be in the FCs playoffs with a shot at a national title than play in this low tier bowl game that will probably get very low ratings?

The game drew a 1.5 last year and drew a 2.0 this year. So much for those low ratingsxcoffeex

[crossfire07]

The short time I watched that game it kept getting talked about how Grambling had the 4th best offense in FCS and then I pulled up their schedule and asked myself why they wasn't #1 xsmiley_wix

[ASU33]

The short time I watched that game it kept getting talked about how Grambling had the 4th best offense in FCS and then I pulled up their schedule and asked myself why they wasn't #1 xsmiley_wix


Hey how long was Broderick Fobbs down at McNeese State? I noticed a few people wearing Cowboys gear at the game on Saturday.

[crossfire07]

He was here 2007-2011 and 2013. Fobbs is going to do well in his career. Not bad huh for someone who played the game and then started his career out as a GA. that's what you call climbing the ladder.

[ASU33]

He was here 2007-2011 and 2013. Fobbs is going to do well in his career. Not bad huh for someone who played the game and then started his career out as a GA. that's what you call climbing the ladder.

He's an impressive guy to say the least. He absolutely LOVES Grambling and that's exactly what they needed.

[crossfire07]

He was a rb for Grambling under Robinson so he has deep roots.

[superman7515]

Bowl games? Bowl games! We dont need no stinking Bowl games in FCS.


The name for the 1AA Championship Game was the Camellia Bowl back when 1AA kicked off, and both the semifinals games were bowl games as well, but the names escape me.


I didn't know that. Wow you learn something new everyday.xnodx

Grantland Rice Bowl and Pioneer Bowl. That's been bugging me all afternoon. The three all came from D2 to 1AA with the addition of 1AA in 1978, now the Grantland Rice Bowl is the South Region finals instead of a semifinal game, so this year Eastern Washington defeated Richmond in the Grantland Rice Bowl.

[NDSUtk]

Grantland Rice Bowl and Pioneer Bowl. That's been bugging me all afternoon. The three all came from D2 to 1AA with the addition of 1AA in 1978, now the Grantland Rice Bowl is the South Region finals instead of a semifinal game, so this year Eastern Washington defeated Richmond in the Grantland Rice Bowl.
For a while the D2 championship was called Pecan Bowl. Not sure how long, just remember seeing that listed in NDSU program when they list our championship games.

[ASU33]

He was a rb for Grambling under Robinson so he has deep roots.

Yeah he grew up around the program. If I'm not mistaken his father was on Robinson's staff.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Getting rid of those dumb-ass Bowl names was the best thing the FCS nee I-AA playoffs ever did.

[ASU33]

Getting rid of those dumb-ass Bowl names was the best thing the FCS nee I-AA playoffs ever did.

I wonder how those names came about in the first place?

[dgtw]

The D2 title game was once called the Zia Bowl.


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