Liberty AD Resigns Effective Immediately

[LeopardBall10]

I just saw this posted, and I didn't see much more detail.

http://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/Liberty-University-athletic-director-Jeff-Barber-resigns-401729865.html

Anyone know if this was planned or sudden? Does this spell any changes for the Flames moving forward?

[FlamingHot]

I just saw this posted, and I didn't see much more detail.

http://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/Liberty-University-athletic-director-Jeff-Barber-resigns-401729865.html

Anyone know if this was planned or sudden? Does this spell any changes for the Flames moving forward?

This was sudden. He was actively posting on twitter about Liberty athletics just yesterday.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Must have said something bad

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Must have said something bad

Kepp that (previous post) off of this board. Thanks.

[CockyGeek]

Did he get caught doing something unbecoming of the university?

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[CID1990]

Did he get caught doing something unbecoming of the university?

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He got caught listening to Dokken


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[Lehigh'98]

He got caught listening to Dokken


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He must hang out with Biden

http://www.theonion.com/article/biden-forges-presidents-signature-executive-order--54723

[PantherRob82]

It's so vague it has to be bad.

[Schism55]

He got caught listening to Dokken


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LOL xbowx
Is this a precursor to Turner Gil being shown the door again?

[FlamingHot]

LOL xbowx
Is this a precursor to Turner Gil being shown the door again?
Hopefully, Liberty needs new leadership.

[PantherRob82]

Hopefully, Liberty needs new leadership.

Especially for that pay day.

[knucklehead]

Jeff and his family are great friends and have impacted Liberty in an amazing, positive way. They will be missed for sure.

[SuperJon]

It came down to results. After this weekend, we'll be paying a football, basketball, and baseball coach who no longer works for us.

[LeopardBall10]

It came down to results. After this weekend, we'll be paying a football, basketball, and baseball coach who no longer works for us.

If its results based, though, wouldn't that mean this wasn't a surprise to anyone? I get the feeling like this was sort of out of the blue. Not to mention the odd quote from Falwell talking about building on his success.

[SuperJon]

The timing was out of the blue. The removal wasn't. I was hoping Jeff would survive this change but was worried he wouldn't. You don't fire your football, basketball, and baseball coaches (that you hired) within two years and survive that.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Hopefully, Liberty needs new leadership.

I mean do you really think Jerry Falwell Jr. will resign as Chancellor? ;)

[SuperJon]

Jerry is openly campaigning for a spot in the Trump admin.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Jerry is openly campaigning for a spot in the Trump admin.

I'd say something about that, but it might be bad

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'd say something about that, but it might be bad

Have hurt feelings all you want, but the shots back and forth politically ain't gonna happen here slick. He is answering a question which I will assume is factual as to the question asked.

[Pard4Life]

Must have said something bad

I should not be bringing politics to this board and thus my post look like this now.

[Bisonoline]

I should not be bringing politics to this board and thus my post look like this now..

That would bring a question of good judgement.xthumbsupx

[ST_Lawson]

I should not be bringing politics to this board and thus my post look like this now.

Nothing wrong with political talk if that's what you're after, but you gotta keep it over in the Political Board: http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forumdisplay.php?57-Political-Board

I can't really go there for more than a minute or two though. I got enough of that on my facebook.

[CID1990]

It was rumored he was dancing


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[RootinFerDukes]

He actually resigned to take the same position at soon to be big time Coastal Carolina University.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

Sources tell me he was dipping his pen in company ink.

[Thumper 76]

Sources tell me he was dipping his pen in company ink.

Pics should be a part of this post


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[RootinFerDukes]

Sources tell me he was dipping his pen in company ink.

Wouldn't that only be a problem at Liberty if it was a same sex vial of company ink?

[citdog]

It was rumored he was dancing


Meeting of the Liberty Board of Trustees


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObhvOeNCKhs

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Was that Vince McMahon disguised with a mustache at the middle of that video. xlolx

[BisonFan02]

He wanted to change the name of the stadium to "The hotrod", say that Jesus built it, and have the team run out on the field to a song by some Ministry.

[MR. CHICKEN]

He wanted to change the name of the stadium to "The hotrod", say that Jesus built it, and have the team run out on the field to a song by some Ministry.


.....NUFFIN'...LIKE PUMPIN'...."HOW GREAT THOU ART"......THRU DUH SONYS........B/4 FACIN'....DUH LIONS...............AWK!

[BisonFan02]

.....NUFFIN'...LIKE PUMPIN'...."HOW GREAT THOU ART"......THRU DUH SONYS........B/4 FACIN'....DUH LIONS...............AWK!

totally

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Maybe he was caught enjoying a microbrew

[TTUEagles]

He wanted to change the name of the stadium to "The hotrod", say that Jesus built it, and have the team run out on the field to a song by some Ministry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8DeyQlpiyI

[Laker]

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN (https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN) 1m1 minute ago (https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN/status/803318097457348609)
Chuck Carlton Retweeted A Sea of Red
Former Baylor athletic director Ian McCaw resurfaces as AD at Liberty.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Last seeing resigning over the Baylor rape scandal. Just so we're all clear on this.

[citdog]

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN (https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN) 1m1 minute ago (https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN/status/803318097457348609)
Chuck Carlton Retweeted A Sea of Red
Former Baylor athletic director Ian McCaw resurfaces as AD at Liberty.


WOW

[Bucs2016]

WOW

Big WOW. Wonder if he gives Art Briles his "rebirth" at Liberty.....

[Bucs2016]

Last seeing resigning over the Baylor rape scandal. Just so we're all clear on this.

Don't be shocked if Art Briles ends up coaching Liberty.

Further proof that winning in football trumps all else....especially for teams who aren't winning but want to really bad.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Is it possible to be AD somewhere but having to take the stand about institutional failures and not reporting campus rapes about his last job?

[jmu007]

Oh Liberty.... you can't make this stuff up. Yikes.

[Bucs2016]

Oh Liberty.... you can't make this stuff up. Yikes.

I think they're in a weird period of history right now. Their only equals in facilities in Big South was Coastal and both wanted to go FBS. Coastal got it...LU didnt. CSU, with the worst facilities, is besting them on the field. Kennesaw is inevitably going to become the next power team in the Big South with its resources and geographic location. It all puts Liberty in a weird spot. Not getting the FBS chance they wanted. Not beating the teams they should. A newcomer trying to surpass them.

Strange times. Now hiring the Baylor AD??? I have no idea what they have in mind UNLESS there's a behind closed doors agreement that Art Briles is coming to be the next head coach.

[IBleedYellow]

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/18157726/ian-mccaw-former-baylor-bears-athletic-director-hired-same-post-liberty

"None of the senior athletic department officials were aware McCaw had been hired until he walked through the door in his introductory news conference, a source told ESPN's Brett McMurphy."

Nice look for Liberty there. Goodness.

[RootinFerDukes]

Liberty would do that. They would.

[citdog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnaVoTfkqa8

[JSUSoutherner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnaVoTfkqa8
xlolx

[Daytripper]

I think they're in a weird period of history right now. Their only equals in facilities in Big South was Coastal and both wanted to go FBS. Coastal got it...LU didnt. CSU, with the worst facilities, is besting them on the field. Kennesaw is inevitably going to become the next power team in the Big South with its resources and geographic location. It all puts Liberty in a weird spot. Not getting the FBS chance they wanted. Not beating the teams they should. A newcomer trying to surpass them.

Strange times. Now hiring the Baylor AD??? I have no idea what they have in mind UNLESS there's a behind closed doors agreement that Art Briles is coming to be the next head coach.

I have said from the beginning that the only place Art Briles gets an HC job is with a religiously affiliated private school. They have the moral cover to say that, as Christians, all people are capable of redemption and deserve a second chance. My money was initially on Abilene Christian as the landing spot for AB, but Liberty is a possibility.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I think they're in a weird period of history right now. Their only equals in facilities in Big South was Coastal and both wanted to go FBS. Coastal got it...LU didnt. CSU, with the worst facilities, is besting them on the field. Kennesaw is inevitably going to become the next power team in the Big South with its resources and geographic location. It all puts Liberty in a weird spot. Not getting the FBS chance they wanted. Not beating the teams they should. A newcomer trying to surpass them.

Strange times. Now hiring the Baylor AD??? I have no idea what they have in mind UNLESS there's a behind closed doors agreement that Art Briles is coming to be the next head coach.

Wondering if that will help with Liberty's branding when McCaw and Briles are led off the Liberty campus in handcuffs.

[ccd494]

Remember when people kept saying Liberty should join the CAA as a football only member (before the Albany/Stony Brook expansion) and those of us in the New England publics (at the time Maine, UNH, UMass and URI) all said that the best way to ever get the student bodies out to football games on campus would be to let them all protest as the Liberty team buses pulled up on gameday, and that it was a non-starter?

This kind of stuff was what we were talking about. Talk about a "**** you" to every female athlete at Liberty.

[Bucs2016]

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/18157726/ian-mccaw-former-baylor-bears-athletic-director-hired-same-post-liberty

"None of the senior athletic department officials were aware McCaw had been hired until he walked through the door in his introductory news conference, a source told ESPN's Brett McMurphy."

Nice look for Liberty there. Goodness.

Liberty Athletics new motto: "GRAB EM BY THE FLAMES!"

[Bucs2016]

Well....now Charleston Southern can reclaim it's "most moral school in the Big South" title hahaha!!!!

I mean come on Liberty. CSU...we're a Christian campus and all, no girls or booze in the dorms but that's about it. And we wouldn't even go there. The Baylor AD??? REALLY?? Dang man. Makes me feel better now that all we did was use some book money on headphones instead. Yall went and hired the Rape AD from Baylor hahaha????

[Daytripper]

Remember when people kept saying Liberty should join the CAA as a football only member (before the Albany/Stony Brook expansion) and those of us in the New England publics (at the time Maine, UNH, UMass and URI) all said that the best way to ever get the student bodies out to football games on campus would be to let them all protest as the Liberty team buses pulled up on gameday, and that it was a non-starter?

This kind of stuff was what we were talking about. Talk about a "**** you" to every female athlete at Liberty.


Well, you know that women need to know their place. It has been anointed and declared that men, and only men, have the final say. Women must stay submissive. Because, you know, it is written.

[ccd494]

Well, you know that women need to know their place. It has been anointed and declared that men, and only men, have the final say. Women must stay submissive. Because, you know, it is written.

Yes, I do realize that Liberty only sponsors women's athletics begrudgingly.

[SuperJon]

Please don't think the alumni or students are happy about this. It's another embarrassing power grab by Jr.

[Catatonic]

I have said from the beginning that the only place Art Briles gets an HC job is with a religiously affiliated private school. They have the moral cover to say that, as Christians, all people are capable of redemption and deserve a second chance. My money was initially on Abilene Christian as the landing spot for AB, but Liberty is a possibility.

From the accounts I have read Art Briles was far less culpable than McCaw.

[walliver]

Liberty does have some history in this matter, but at least they kicked him off the team and out of school:
http://wtvr.com/2016/03/03/the-disturbing-timeline-of-jesse-matthews-sexual-violence-and-murder/

October 17, 2002: Jesse Matthew named a suspect (http://wtvr.com/2014/09/25/victim-allegedly-raped-by-jesse-matthew-at-liberty-dropped-charge/) in an alleged rape at Liberty University in Lynchburg. Matthew was at Liberty from 2000-2002. He left the college, where he played football, immediately afterward.

[Professor]

wow. How is their PR department gonna spin this?

[Bucs2016]

wow. How is their PR department gonna spin this?

Simple. Show them CSUs facilities and resources. And remind them CSU is back to back Big South Champs....which is kinda ridiculous when you consider how big a gap there is between them and Liberty. Then remind them winning trumps morality and there's NO REASON any current Big South team should be beating Liberty, sooo....yeah....that.

[RootinFerDukes]

This may also have something to do with hoping the new AD has contacts in FBS to help them land somewhere when the next opportunity opens up. They'll overlook anything, even rape, to move up to the big time Sun Belt.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

President Falwell said. “I don’t think there could be a better fit between a university and an athletic director."

Noted that the "great fit" is someone who ignored rape evidence and violated the law, and that President Falwell feels just fine in that company.

[JMU2004]

Wow...they just torpedoed any chance of ANY school outside the Big South (FBS/FCS) ever wanting to associate with them.

[Schism55]

WTF Liberty? How in the hell does this happen?
The NCAA gives show cause penalties to coaches...but not ADs?

[BisonFan02]

He wanted to change the name of the stadium to "The hotrod", say that Jesus built it, and have the team run out on the field to a song by some Ministry.

With the new news......this couldn't have happened....since it will now be the case under the new regime. :D

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Let's see what the major papers are saying about Liberty's AD hire:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/11/ian-mccaw-liberty-university-athletic-director-baylor-sexual-assaults


For Liberty to not so much as acknowledge how things ended for McCaw at Baylor is unconscionable, but not surprising. Would it really dim boosters’ excitement to include a quote from McCaw about learning difficult lessons? Or of him promising to do better this time around? Apparently Liberty believes it would. Sports above all.

There's this, too, which has to be read to be believed:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyYzVw_XgAAS7yG.jpg
Rape at Baylor reduced to "technical and unintentional mistakes"? "No AD in America is more sensitized to Title IX compliance than McCaw"? That's like saying nobody is more sensitized to the intricacies of criminal law than John Gotti. This is literally the dumbest hire in America.

[POD Knows]

Let's see what the major papers are saying about Liberty's AD hire:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/11/ian-mccaw-liberty-university-athletic-director-baylor-sexual-assaults



There's this, too, which has to be read to be believed:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyYzVw_XgAAS7yG.jpg
Rape at Baylor reduced to "technical and unintentional mistakes"? "No AD in America is more sensitized to Title IX compliance than McCaw"? That's like saying nobody is more sensitized to the intricacies of criminal law than John Gotti. This is literally the dumbest hire in America.

Maybe the "buck" didn't stop at the top, isn't that what we have learned in the last 8 years. It was just a bunch of underlings messing around, he probably didn't know what was going on and certainly can't be held accountable for what goes on in his department, after all, he has big job and can't be expected to be responsible for all of the intricate and mundane details. Nah, the buck didn't get there, give him a break.

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Let's see what the major papers are saying about Liberty's AD hire:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/11/ian-mccaw-liberty-university-athletic-director-baylor-sexual-assaults



There's this, too, which has to be read to be believed:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyYzVw_XgAAS7yG.jpg
Rape at Baylor reduced to "technical and unintentional mistakes"? "No AD in America is more sensitized to Title IX compliance than McCaw"? That's like saying nobody is more sensitized to the intricacies of criminal law than John Gotti. This is literally the dumbest hire in America.


hahahaha weird....I live in Dallas and you cant find a more opposite opinion of the man around Texas......hahahhaa

**** Liberty for real....who are these clowns????

You cant make this **** up!

[kdinva]

http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/article_c159f38d-75f3-52c2-b3b4-55efbc949e93.html

[Bisonwinagn]

I haven't read all they details with Baylor, but who did the AD rape and was he convicted?

[clenz]

I haven't read all they details with Baylor, but who did the AD rape and was he convicted?

He, and his football staff, systematically hid/covered/lied about the rape culture that was taking place within their athletic department. He victim blamed. His athletic department threatened victims that came forward to keep them quiet and prove a point to others thinking about coming forward.

[dbackjon]

Please don't think the alumni or students are happy about this. It's another embarrassing power grab by Jr.

Jr. Doesn't care about Liberty - he is too busy trying to get a cabinet position with that Super-Christian in the White House.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

The Washington Post had some stunning details out on this today.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/liberty-universitys-new-ad-isnt-sure-why-god-led-him-here-neither-are-some-students/2016/12/07/afbb2ce2-bcc7-11e6-91ee-1adddfe36cbe_story.html?utm_term=.f20e04d07377


One young man turned to Acts of the Apostles: “Ananias answered: ‘Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much evil he has done,’ ” the student read. “. . . But the Lord said to him: ‘Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine.’ ”

A moment passed, the class absorbing the verses’ symbolism, before another young man spoke.


“This is not okay,” he said. “I do think we’re supposed to forgive. But I don’t know if we should give him a job.”


...


About a year ago, Liberty officials noticed a scandal smoldering at Baylor, the overachieving Baptist university in Waco, Tex. Falwell and his senior staffers had admired Baylor, and in particular McCaw, 54, for a long time; though Liberty employed an athletic director, Jeff Barber, the staff questioned whether Barber was the man to lead the athletic department’s continued rise. Should the scandal make McCaw suddenly available, they discussed internally, the school should act quickly.


...


Falwell met with McCaw off-campus on Oct. 29, Falwell later saying he asked McCaw pointed questions about the scandal. Neither Falwell nor McCaw would reveal details about the conversation, but regardless, Falwell was convinced: McCaw, a talented administrator and a Christian, was Liberty’s man. Barber would resign three weeks later, 11 days before McCaw was introduced.


But, given the enthusiasm and fit, was McCaw actually clean? Or was he simply clean enough?


“I would say to anybody who’s charging him,” Smith said, “who’s accusing him of being anything other than an honorable man . . .”


Falwell chimed in, speaking between breaks in Smith’s words.


“Nothing,” he said. “Show us.”


“Tell me one sanction,” Smith continued, “tell me one charge. . .”


“Show us what he did,” Falwell said.


“One anything.”


“And they can’t,” Falwell said.

I can tell Jerry what McCaw didn't do. Perhaps he's too much of a dip**** to figure out that's why he could very well be going to jail in the future. And when his trial comes, it's going to be a lot of fun in Lynchburg.

[NorthChuckSouth]

Liberty has so much potential. SO much potential but then they go out and do stuff like this.

I heard that after they lost to us that the old AD wanted Gill gone but the higher ups wanted to keep him so they pretty much told the AD that it wasn't going to happen. Whether it was a personal choice or a strong suggestion, he's gone because wanted to do what needed to be done. I think that they are putting their blame on the wrong person.. almost like the Cubs and Steve Bartman.

Jerry has his hand deep in that cookie jar.

[mcveyrl]

Liberty has so much potential. SO much potential but then they go out and do stuff like this.

I heard that after they lost to us that the old AD wanted Gill gone but the higher ups wanted to keep him so they pretty much told the AD that it wasn't going to happen. Whether it was a personal choice or a strong suggestion, he's gone because wanted to do what needed to be done. I think that they are putting their blame on the wrong person.. almost like the Cubs and Steve Bartman.

Jerry has his hand deep in that cookie jar.

It actually sounds like they had their eye on McCaw for a while and were ready to let go of Barber the minute it was "okay" to do it.

Reminds me of this verse:

"Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife...but the AD four states over? That's cool."


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[citdog]

It actually sounds like they had their eye on McCaw for a while and were ready to let go of Barber the minute it was "okay" to do it.

Reminds me of this verse:

"Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife...but the AD four states over? That's cool."


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The Jewish Carpenter must shake his head at the **** liberty pulls in his name.

Liberty may be a cult.

[UIWWildthing]

The Jewish Carpenter must shake his head at the **** liberty pulls in his name.

Liberty is a cult.

Fixed.

[Redbird007]

The Jewish Carpenter must shake his head at the **** liberty pulls in his name.

Liberty may be a cult.

From afar definitely seems like a strange place