AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/14/2016

[AGSPoll]

The results WEEK 11 - 11/14/2016



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes
Previous Wk.


1
Eastern Washington Eagles
2013
46
1


2
North Dakota State Bison
1977
22
2


3
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1869
7
3


4
James Madison Dukes
1808
3
4T


5
The Citadel Bulldogs
1767
1
4T


6
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1705
4
6


7
Richmond Spiders
1517

8


8
Central Arkansas Bears
1479

9


9
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1397

10


10
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
1355

11


11
Chattanooga Mocs
1091

7


12
Samford Bulldogs
1052

14


13
Youngstown State Penguins
1028

15


14
Villanova Wildcats
989

12


15
North Carolina A&T Aggies
824

17


16
Lehigh Mountain Hawks
820

18


17
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
792

19


18
Wofford Terriers
777

22


19
Cal Poly Mustangs
545

13


20
Grambling State Tigers
354

24


21
Maine Black Bears
293

26


22
Montana Grizzlies
258

16


23
Illinois State Redbirds
210

28


24
Western Illinois Leathernecks
205

21


25
Northern Iowa Panthers
162

30

















ORV:





26
New Hampshire Wildcats
120

20


27
Weber State Wildcats
115

37T


28
North Carolina Central Eagles
105

29


29
Saint Francis Red Flash
58

31


30T
Albany Great Danes
56

36


30T
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
56

35


32
San Diego Toreros
45

33


33
Harvard Crimson
28

23


34
Princeton Tigers
23

39T


35
Northern Colorado Bears
22

NR


36
Fordham Rams
21

NR


37
Liberty Flames
13

25


38
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
8

27


39T
Pennsylvania Quakers
7

NR


39T
Western Carolina Catamounts
7

NR


41
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
4

NR
























Fell Out Of Poll:






Nicholls State Colonels






Southern Utah Thunderbirds






Stony Brook Seawolves






Tennessee State Tigers




















Most Significant Win: Wofford Terriers
Most Significant Loss: Chattanooga Mocs

[Twentysix]

First! (this space for rent, pm me for paypal information :D)

[The Pud]

Second!

[JSUSoutherner]

Who are the tards voting JSU as #1? Have you seen our offense? :D

[Daytripper]

Who are the tards voting JSU as #1? Have you seen our offense? :D

Who are the tards voting SHSU as #1? Have you seen our defense? :D

[Professor Chaos]

NDSU has 6 wins over current top 25 teams in the AGS poll and that doesn't include Iowa. Just think about that for a bit *COUGH*SelectionCommittee*COUGH*.

[The Pud]

NDSU has 6 wins over current top 25 teams in the AGS poll and that doesn't include Iowa. Just think about that for a bit *COUGH*SelectionCommittee*COUGH*.


agreed.

My top 5 would be as follows:

1. NDSU
2. SHSU
3. EWU
4. UCA
5. JSU

[JSUSoutherner]

How is Chattanooga still at 11?

[Bison56]

NDSU has 6 wins over current top 25 teams in the AGS poll and that doesn't include Iowa. Just think about that for a bit *COUGH*SelectionCommittee*COUGH*.

But how many points did they score?xrolleyesx

[Daytripper]

1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: The Citadel Bulldogs
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: James Madison Dukes
7: Central Arkansas Bears
8: Richmond Spiders
9: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
10: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
11: Samford Bulldogs
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
16: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
17: Maine Black Bears
18: Cal Poly Mustangs
19: Wofford Terriers
20: Grambling State Tigers
21: Youngstown State Penguins
22: Northern Colorado Bears
23: Illinois State Redbirds
24: Montana Grizzlies
25: Northern Iowa Panthers

[Professor Chaos]

How is Chattanooga still at 11?
For me it's because the teams below them haven't done much to impress either. I couldn't justify putting them below Samford considering Chatty beat them by 20 earlier in the season.

[JSUSoutherner]

I don't think I did half bad this week.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
4: The Citadel Bulldogs
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
10: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
11: Samford Bulldogs
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: Youngstown State Penguins
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
17: Chattanooga Mocs
18: North Carolina A&T Aggies
19: Cal Poly Mustangs
20: Maine Black Bears
21: Grambling State Tigers
22: Montana Grizzlies
23: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
24: Northern Iowa Panthers
25: Western Illinois Leathernecks

JSUSoutherner

The Most Significant Win: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
The Most Significant Loss: Chattanooga Mocs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Ohio Valley Conference

[Drblankstare]

NDSU has 6 wins over current top 25 teams in the AGS poll and that doesn't include Iowa. Just think about that for a bit *COUGH*SelectionCommittee*COUGH*.

Wins?

Its all about quality losses at this time of year. :D

[JMUNJ08]

agreed.

My top 5 would be as follows:

1. NDSU
2. SHSU
3. EWU
4. UCA
5. JSU

Most hilarious top 5 I have seen. I guess if you lose to 7-3 Samford then you are better than the undefeated conference champs and the FCS undefeated CAA champs... (not to mention some others on that list...)

[Twentysix]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: James Madison Dukes
4: The Citadel Bulldogs
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: Richmond Spiders
11: Youngstown State Penguins
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: Samford Bulldogs
14: Illinois State Redbirds
15: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Chattanooga Mocs
18: North Carolina A&T Aggies
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
21: Maine Black Bears
22: Weber State Wildcats
23: Cal Poly Mustangs
24: San Diego Toreros
25: Saint Francis Red Flash

Twentysix

The Most Significant Win: Wofford Terriers
The Most Significant Loss: Chattanooga Mocs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Most hilarious top 5 I have seen. I guess if you lose to 7-3 Samford then you are better than the undefeated conference champs and the FCS undefeated CAA champs... (not to mention some others on that list...)

He is not a voter fwiw just so everyone is clear on that.

[Twentysix]

He is not a voter fwiw just so everyone is clear on that.

It's a little stupid but not an impossible top 5. Luckily for us the committee will eliminate one of the SLC teams this week from the top 5.

[Catbooster]

I'm surprised the Griz are still in the poll. Personally, I think there are a couple Big Sky teams more deserving right now.

[Daytripper]

It's a little stupid but not an impossible top 5. Luckily for us the committee will eliminate one of the SLC teams this week from the top 5.

What if it's a tie?

[Twentysix]

BTW this is a great top 6 this year, what a great diversity of conference leaders at the top of our subdivision:

1: North Dakota State Bison - MVFC
2: Eastern Washington Eagles - Big Sky
3: James Madison Dukes - CAA
4: The Citadel Bulldogs - Socon
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks - OVC
6: I expect this spot to be taken by the winner of UCA/SHSU - SLC.

[JMUNJ08]

He is not a voter fwiw just so everyone is clear on that.

I will let it go then xrotatehx

Will be a tough year for seeding for sure. If SHSU wins, the top 6 are pretty much sealed but depending on the eye of the beholder, could be in a billion different combinations. If they lose, It just becomes the top 5 (sorry UCA though you get a seed). Still, would find it pretty cool to have JMU/ El Cid on the 4/5 line

[Twentysix]

What if it's a tie?

Then you both lose imo.

[Daytripper]

Then you both lose imo.

Why can't we both win?

[Daytripper]

BTW this is a great top 6 this year, what a great diversity of conference leaders at the top of our subdivision:

1: North Dakota State Bison - MVFC
2: Eastern Washington Eagles - Big Sky
3: James Madison Dukes - CAA
4: The Citadel Bulldogs - Socon
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks - OVC
6: I expect this spot to be taken by the winner of UCA/SHSU - SLC.




I agree. I think the playoffs will be wide open because the top teams are all very good but they are also each flawed in some significant way.

Let's get it on!

[JSUSoutherner]

I agree. I think the playoffs will be wide open because the top teams are all very good but they are also each flawed in some significant way.

Let's get it on!
Really? I'd love to know the flaw for NDSU sand EWU.

[Twentysix]

Really? I'd love to know the flaw for NDSU sand EWU.

****ty offense ****ty defense.

:p

Both teams are actually really good. I expect them to blow some teams out in the playoffs.

[JSUFightingCocks]

How is Chattanooga still at 11?

Harambe is watching over them! xbowx

[jacksfan29]

Wins?

Its all about quality losses at this time of year. :D

And per the NCAA release the Bison have that "devastating" loss to SDSU.

[Twentysix]

And per the NCAA release the Bison have that "devastating" loss to SDSU.

Idk how a 2 point loss to a rival team in the running for a playoff seed is a devastating loss.

[JSUSoutherner]

Harambe is watching over them! xbowx
#CocksOutForHarambe

[Daytripper]

Really? I'd love to know the flaw for NDSU sand EWU.

NDSU is susceptible to the pass. Also, I think all those championships have made them complacent. I really don't think they care.

EWU is susceptible to over confidence. Also, I think Kooper Kupp is overrated. And their defense couldn't stop a rolling beach ball.


xwhistlexxwhistlexxwhistlexxwhistlex

Calmed down....just a little good-natured trolling.

[BEAR]

It's a little stupid but not an impossible top 5. Luckily for us the committee will eliminate one of the SLC teams this week from the top 5.

Well at least this year it's not the case of a 7-4 UCA team last year being left out of the picture...xthumbsupx 9-1 feels pretty good right now....10-1...even better.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'm surprised the Griz are still in the poll. Personally, I think there are a couple Big Sky teams more deserving right now.

Agree.

[Twentysix]

NDSU is susceptible to the pass.

Nope NDSU's DBs are awesome now. You are confusing the current NDSU team with the early season NDSU team. As with the last 5 years (except 2013), early season NDSU and novemeber/december/january NDSU are different.

[JSUSoutherner]

NDSU is susceptible to the pass. Also, I think all those championships have made them complacent. I really don't think they care.

EWU is susceptible to over confidence. Also, I think Kooper Kupp is overrated. And their defense couldn't stop a rolling beach ball.


xwhistlexxwhistlexxwhistlexxwhistlex

Calmed down....just a little good-natured trolling.
I don't buy the susceptible to the pass thing for NDSU as a flaw. A weakness maybe, but they were still able to overcome it and beat one of the best passing offenses in the division.

[The Pud]

Most hilarious top 5 I have seen. I guess if you lose to 7-3 Samford then you are better than the undefeated conference champs and the FCS undefeated CAA champs... (not to mention some others on that list...)


Sammy seems to be undefeated against CAA teams in the playoffs. :D

[Twentysix]

I don't buy the susceptible to the pass thing for NDSU as a flaw. A weakness maybe, but they were still able to overcome it and beat one of the best passing offenses in the division.

Seriously, NDSUs DBs were first game players to begin the year, they are pretty solid now. Be scared.

[JSUSoutherner]

Seriously, NDSUs DBs were first game players to begin the year, they are pretty solid now. Be scared.
How have you guys been with the penalties lately?

[Lehigh'98]

Idk how a 2 point loss to a rival team in the running for a playoff seed is a devastating loss.

If ND comes to Fargo in the 2nd round, do you think that they get blown out or its a very competitive game. I would imagine there would be a minor meltdown amongst Bison fans if they were upset by ND. If SDSU beat them, I think it would be easier for them to accept. **Note, I think NDSU wins it all, just speculating.

[centennial]

How have you guys been with the penalties lately?

Better, still not where we want to be. We aren't even opening up the full offense right now. Stick is limited in passing.

[Twentysix]

How have you guys been with the penalties lately?

Depends on the refs honestly.

The higher the refs have been graded the less penalties NDSU seems to get.

Still a few blocking/holding calls dependent on the refs.

a few personal fouls.

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If ND comes to Fargo in the 2nd round, do you think that they get blown out or its a very competitive game. I would imagine there would be a minor meltdown amongst Bison fans if they were upset by ND. If SDSU beat them, I think it would be easier for them to accept. **Note, I think NDSU wins it all, just speculating.

(revision) I think it would be competitive, but I think the game favors NDSU substantially.

I think there is still a sizable talent gap between NDSU and UND. That doesn't mean UND couldn't win. It would probably be a game with less than 40 points scored total.

There are plenty of teams that will be in the playoff bracket that NDSU will be very capable of blowing out.

[Professor Chaos]

NDSU's pass defense has definitely progressed from earlier in the season. However, the pass offense seems to have regressed. That could be partially due to the fact that they haven't needed to throw the ball much since they've been bulldozing teams with the run game over the last month. It's hard to get much going in the passing game when you throw it less than 15 times a game. Let's just say I'm not supremely confident that the NDSU passing game could survive another EWU like shootout that they did in September.


If ND comes to Fargo in the 2nd round, do you think that they get blown out or its a very competitive game. I would imagine there would be a minor meltdown amongst Bison fans if they were upset by ND. If SDSU beat them, I think it would be easier for them to accept. **Note, I think NDSU wins it all, just speculating.
I think NDSU matches up well with UND. I'd be more nervous about them having to face a team like SDSU.

[milleniumkat]

NDSU has 6 wins over current top 25 teams in the AGS poll and that doesn't include Iowa. Just think about that for a bit *COUGH*SelectionCommittee*COUGH*.

Good stuff. lol. I approve!


"You Can't run with #81!"

[Twentysix]

NDSU's pass defense has definitely progressed from earlier in the season. However, the pass offense seems to have regressed. That could be partially due to the fact that they haven't needed to throw the ball much since they've been bulldozing teams with the run game over the last month. It's hard to get much going in the passing game when you throw it less than 15 times a game. Let's just say I'm not supremely confident that the NDSU passing game could survive another EWU like shootout that they did in September.


I think NDSU matches up well with UND. I'd be more nervous about them having to face a team like SDSU.

The pass game seems to have gotten worse, but the run game has improved A LOT which probably accounts for at least some of the regression in the pass game.

[JSUSoutherner]

The pass game seems to have gotten worse, but the run game has improved A LOT which probably accounts for at least some of the regression in the pass game.
A Bison team that can't pass as well as the Ginger? Sign us up. :D

[ST_Lawson]

WIU's new theme song...


https://youtu.be/1lWJXDG2i0A?t=1m4s

[Twentysix]

A Bison team that can't pass as well as the Ginger? Sign us up. :D

Keep winning to get your name on the list.

[IBleedYellow]

If ND comes to Fargo in the 2nd round, do you think that they get blown out or its a very competitive game. I would imagine there would be a minor meltdown amongst Bison fans if they were upset by ND. If SDSU beat them, I think it would be easier for them to accept. **Note, I think NDSU wins it all, just speculating.

If UND comes into Fargo, I believe they end up going back to Grand Forks with their tail between their legs and their posters gone from AGS for awhile.

NDSU has been constantly playing against the Top 20 teams in the country all year. They may be a young, but seasoned bunch, and anyone that's been paying attention the last 6 years knows that NDSU in the postseason is completely different from NDSU in the first few weeks of the year.

[centennial]

The pass game seems to have gotten worse, but the run game has improved A LOT which probably accounts for at least some of the regression in the pass game.

Hard to tell with how limited we are in passing. Stick is over thinking his throws, and throwing late. Cole Davis might be a better passer right now.

[Twentysix]

WIU's new theme song...


https://youtu.be/1lWJXDG2i0A?t=1m4s

Yeah,you guys sure started better than you are finishing.:\

[JSUSoutherner]

Keep winning to get your name on the list.
Will do.

I'm interested to see how we look offensively in the playoffs. I think there's a few pages in the playbook Grass is saving.

[Twentysix]

If UND comes into Fargo, I believe they end up going back to Grand Forks with their tail between their legs and their posters gone from AGS for awhile.

NDSU has been constantly playing against the Top 20 teams in the country all year. They may be a young, but seasoned bunch, and anyone that's been paying attention the last 6 years knows that NDSU in the postseason is completely different from NDSU in the first few weeks of the year.

Absolutely true, but UND is pretty good this year and NDSU has atrophied some.

- - - Updated - - -


Will do.

I'm interested to see how we look offensively in the playoffs. I think there's a few pages in the playbook Grass is saving.

It's cute that you can do that. I do not think we have saved anything. The conference is too tough.

[IBleedYellow]

Absolutely true, but UND is pretty good this year and NDSU has atrophied some.

Not enough to have me worried at all. Unless they come in dirty hoping to take out our players.

[chattanoogamocs]

Looks like Western Illinois lost 7 votes to Western Carolina

(surely no one really voted for 2-8 Western Carolina)

[BigSouthFan]

The results WEEK 11 - 11/14/2016



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes
Previous Wk.


1
Eastern Washington Eagles
2013
46
1


2
North Dakota State Bison
1977
22
2


3
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1869
7
3


4
James Madison Dukes
1808
3
4T


5
The Citadel Bulldogs
1767
1
4T


6
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1705
4
6


7
Richmond Spiders
1517

8


8
Central Arkansas Bears
1479

9


9
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1397

10


10
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
1355

11


11
Chattanooga Mocs
1091

7


12
Samford Bulldogs
1052

14


13
Youngstown State Penguins
1028

15


14
Villanova Wildcats
989

12


15
North Carolina A&T Aggies
824

17


16
Lehigh Mountain Hawks
820

18


17
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
792

19


18
Wofford Terriers
777

22


19
Cal Poly Mustangs
545

13


20
Grambling State Tigers
354

24


21
Maine Black Bears
293

26


22
Montana Grizzlies
258

16


23
Illinois State Redbirds
210

28


24
Western Illinois Leathernecks
205

21


25
Northern Iowa Panthers
162

30

















ORV:





26
New Hampshire Wildcats
120

20


27
Weber State Wildcats
115

37T


28
North Carolina Central Eagles
105

29


29
Saint Francis Red Flash
58

31


30T
Albany Great Danes
56

36


30T
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
56

35


32
San Diego Toreros
45

33


33
Harvard Crimson
28

23


34
Princeton Tigers
23

39T


35
Northern Colorado Bears
22

NR


36
Fordham Rams
21

NR


37
Liberty Flames
13

25


38
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
8

27


39T
Pennsylvania Quakers
7

NR


39T
Western Carolina Catamounts
7

NR


41
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
4

NR
























Fell Out Of Poll:






Nicholls State Colonels






Southern Utah Thunderbirds






Stony Brook Seawolves






Tennessee State Tigers




















Most Significant Win: Wofford Terriers
Most Significant Loss: Chattanooga Mocs

Charleston Southern is better than 11-16, IMHO.

[Twentysix]

Charleston Southern is better than 11-16, IMHO.

Then they should have won their games. If you can't be gardner webb I'm not convinced you can beat any of those teams other than Lehigh and NC A&T, maybe chat.

[PantherRob82]

: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: The Citadel Bulldogs
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: James Madison Dukes
7: Richmond Spiders
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: Samford Bulldogs
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Youngstown State Penguins
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: North Carolina A&T Aggies
18: Montana Grizzlies
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Saint Francis Red Flash
22: Illinois State Redbirds
23: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
24: North Carolina Central Eagles
25: Maine Black Bears

[JSUSoutherner]

Absolutely true, but UND is pretty good this year and NDSU has atrophied some.

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It's cute that you can do that. I do not think we have saved anything. The conference is too tough.
Yeah there's been a lot of packages and plays that we've seen over the season used briefly but our offense 98% of the time is just run people over and deep shots. We leaned on our defense so far since no one has really truly threatened us. And it works in the OVC so I'm pretty sure is Grass is saving the big guns for when they're needed.

Grass has done it in the past before, most notably in the Auburn game last year.

Of course I could be delusional and our offense is actually broken but it always seems that if we get into a true pinch our offense does have an ability to answer and answer quickly.

We shall see soon enough I suppose.

[BEAR]

Bears just have to keep winning.

Heck, I could have copied and pasted that status all year. xlolx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Looks like Western Illinois lost 7 votes to Western Carolina

(surely no one really voted for 2-8 Western Carolina)

I believe that to be true.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Charleston Southern is better than 11-16, IMHO.

Yeah, well, that is an opinion.

[PantherRob82]

Charleston Southern is better than 11-16, IMHO.

Which Top 16 team did they beat? xlolx

I'll wait. xcoffeex

[BigSouthFan]

Then they should have won their games. If you can't be gardner webb I'm not convinced you can beat any of those teams other than Lehigh and NC A&T, maybe chat. Just in my opinion the FCS ranks hiccups too heavy. I've seen good teams drop 15+ spots on here just because of a week where a good team came out uninspired. Does it make it right? No. If that's the case then Pitt is better than Clemson and Clemson should drop out of the Top 10 cause they can't beat Pitt.

[Twentysix]

Just in my opinion the FCS ranks hiccups too heavy. I've seen good teams drop 15+ spots on here just because of a week where a good team came out uninspired. Does it make it right? No. If that's the case then Pitt is better than Clemson and Clemson should drop out of the Top 10 cause they can't beat Pitt.

No. It would be like that happening if Clemson was in the sunbelt and played all Sunbelt and MEAC teams.

[Bison56]

agreed.

My top 5 would be as follows:

1. NDSU
2. SHSU
3. EWU
4. UCA
5. JSU

Is life easier when you are stupid?

[BigSouthFan]

Is life easier when you are stupid?
xlolx

[jacksfan29]

Idk how a 2 point loss to a rival team in the running for a playoff seed is a devastating loss.

That's the point. In last weeks NCAA FCS release discussing the playoff committee rankings the article called the NDSU loss to SDSU a "DEVASTATING" loss to justify NDSU not being ranked higher. My guess is the comment in the article came from someone on the committee or someone working with the committee. If that's the mindset of the committee SDSU will be nowhere near a seed and NDSU will not be top 2.

[Professor Chaos]

That's the point. In last weeks NCAA FCS release discussing the playoff committee rankings the article called the NDSU loss to SDSU a "DEVASTATING" loss to justify NDSU not being ranked higher. My guess is the comment in the article came from someone on the committee or someone working with the committee. If that's the mindset of the committee SDSU will be nowhere near a seed and NDSU will not be top 2.
Idk, I read that more as the author making the assumption that this was why NDSU was at #3 behind JSU and EWU. When the initial rankings came out and Hutchinson (selection committee chair) went on his Fargo radio tour he surmised that the reason why NDSU was where they were at was because they "recently" lost to SDSU (of course he didn't know because the committee hadn't actually discussed the rankings yet at that time xrolleyesx). That's now been 4 games ago so I can't really see how they can claim it as a recent loss justifying a lack of momentum or something like that.

I always hated the argument that when a loss happens should factor into where or if a team is seeded. I think SDSU was burned by that last year losing to WIU in week 12. Had they lost to WIU in week 8 and reeled off 4 straight after that they probably would've been seeded which is silly to me because their resume would've looked the exact same as it did with the week 12 loss the way it played out.

[Mayville Bison]

That's the point. In last weeks NCAA FCS release discussing the playoff committee rankings the article called the NDSU loss to SDSU a "DEVASTATING" loss to justify NDSU not being ranked higher. My guess is the comment in the article came from someone on the committee or someone working with the committee. If that's the mindset of the committee SDSU will be nowhere near a seed and NDSU will not be top 2.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that article from the Grand Forks Herald? I think it may have more to do with trying to gain relevance for a certain other school than actually be a quote from the committee.

[UNDBIZ]

I think NDSU matches up well with UND. I'd be more nervous about them having to face a team like SDSU.

UND feels the same way about NDSU as compared to EWU. Both UND and NDSU are built to run the ball and stop the run. Could be a slugfest.


Unless they come in dirty hoping to take out our players.

Really, this again? There was one dirty hit in the game last year and it was committed by a bizun POS.

[IBleedYellow]

UND feels the same way about NDSU as compared to EWU. Both UND and NDSU are built to run the ball and stop the run. Could be a slugfest.



Really, this again? There was one dirty hit in the game last year and it was committed by a bizun POS.

http://cdn.onextrapixel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/hook.jpg

[kalm]

Is life easier when you are stupid?

Yes

[bluehenbillk]

So here's a question: JMU loses their starting QB, does it effect & how much the committee's thinking on seeding them for the playoffs?

[milleniumkat]

If UND comes into Fargo, I believe they end up going back to Grand Forks with their tail between their legs and their posters gone from AGS for awhile.

NDSU has been constantly playing against the Top 20 teams in the country all year. They may be a young, but seasoned bunch, and anyone that's been paying attention the last 6 years knows that NDSU in the postseason is completely different from NDSU in the first few weeks of the year.

Just out of curiosity..there's a lot of talk about "Novemberists" or "People not coming back for a while" etc. on here.

What exactly would draw someone to post on the AGS board if : A. Your team is out of the running or B: Your team does not play in the Big Sky or MVFC ?

I mean, almost every team has its own fan forum for off-season talk. Why is it that you guys think people are "Scared" or "intimidated" to post on here once their team loses in the playoffs or season ends etc?

Has anyone considered that maybe, just maybe..outside of an ongoing football season that includes their team, that there's not really anything worthwhile to discuss once you're done? Let alone anyone worthwhile to discuss it with?

It's kind of like the smelly kid in school that people sit next to in class cuz they have to, but at lunch, sit far...far away. At some point you have to realize that..well...no one really likes being around you bro...sorry for that.




"You Can't run with #81!"

[Professor Chaos]

Just out of curiosity..there's a lot of talk about "Novemberists" or "People not coming back for a while" etc. on here.

What exactly would draw someone to post on the AGS board if : A. Your team is out of the running or B: Your team does not play in the Big Sky or MVFC ?

I mean, almost every team has its own fan forum for off-season talk. Why is it that you guys think people are "Scared" or "intimidated" to post on here once their team loses in the playoffs or season ends etc?

Has anyone considered that maybe, just maybe..outside of an ongoing football season that includes their team, that there's not really anything worthwhile to discuss once you're done? Let alone anyone worthwhile to discuss it with?

It's kind of like the smelly kid in school that people sit next to in class cuz they have to, but at lunch, sit far...far away. At some point you have to realize that..well...no one really likes being around you bro...sorry for that.




"You Can't run with #81!"
I'm looking forward to when the "worthwhile discussion" you bring is shared with all the cool bros you hang out with instead of littering this board.

[BisonTru]

Looks like Western Illinois lost 7 votes to Western Carolina

(surely no one really voted for 2-8 Western Carolina)

Yep, that was me sorry folks. Should have been Western Illinois which should move them up over Illinois St.

[IBleedYellow]

Just out of curiosity..there's a lot of talk about "Novemberists" or "People not coming back for a while" etc. on here.

What exactly would draw someone to post on the AGS board if : A. Your team is out of the running or B: Your team does not play in the Big Sky or MVFC ?

I mean, almost every team has its own fan forum for off-season talk. Why is it that you guys think people are "Scared" or "intimidated" to post on here once their team loses in the playoffs or season ends etc?

Has anyone considered that maybe, just maybe..outside of an ongoing football season that includes their team, that there's not really anything worthwhile to discuss once you're done? Let alone anyone worthwhile to discuss it with?

It's kind of like the smelly kid in school that people sit next to in class cuz they have to, but at lunch, sit far...far away. At some point you have to realize that..well...no one really likes being around you bro...sorry for that.




"You Can't run with #81!"

A lot of teams (SHSU included back in '11/'12) fans come here, talk smack and throw out baseless claims, then never come back after their team losses.

They then return again the next year during the playoffs, only to watch their team get smacked again. It gets annoying to siphon through a bunch of gibberish posts about people that don't bring any discussion.

[milleniumkat]

A lot of teams (SHSU included back in '11/'12) fans come here, talk smack and throw out baseless claims, then never come back after their team losses.

They then return again the next year during the playoffs, only to watch their team get smacked again. It gets annoying to siphon through a bunch of gibberish posts about people that don't bring any discussion.

So can you offer a lad some advice? What's there to talk about after the season? Give me some direction so that a brother can bring some good stuff to the table.

[RootinFerDukes]

So here's a question: JMU loses their starting QB, does it effect & how much the committee's thinking on seeding them for the playoffs?

Wishful thinking little chickadee. Coach said today that he expects Schor to return this season. We don't believe him but he made it seem he could be ready for this saturday's game.

[IBleedYellow]

So can you offer a lad some advice? What's there to talk about after the season? Give me some direction so that a brother can bring some good stuff to the table.

You can start coming around in August, instead of November when your playoffs appearance is a lock? And not talk smack the entire time?

Adding to the discussion is always encouraged, I supposed! xthumbsupx

[PantherRob82]

So here's a question: JMU loses their starting QB, does it effect & how much the committee's thinking on seeding them for the playoffs?

This is a great question right now. The JMU board seemed to think it was a broken collar bone with a minimum of 3-6 weeks. Coach Houston came out with some coach speak about returning quickly. Is that so no one knows who to prepare for, or is the injury not as bad as described?

[dewey]

Here is my poll.

Hello dewey,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/14/2016 6:50:34

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: The Citadel Bulldogs
4: James Madison Dukes
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Samford Bulldogs
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Wofford Terriers
13: Youngstown State Penguins
14: Chattanooga Mocs
15: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
18: Albany Great Danes
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Cal Poly Mustangs
21: Montana Grizzlies
22: Northern Iowa Panthers
23: Illinois State Redbirds
24: North Carolina A&T Aggies
25: Maine Black Bears

dewey

The Most Significant Win: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
The Most Significant Loss: Chattanooga Mocs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

I think the Chattanooga loss is very significant because they were a seeded team for sure. IMHO the Charleston Southern win was the most impressive because if they lost their season was over.

Dewey

[DirtyDukes]

agreed.

My top 5 would be as follows:

1. NDSU
2. SHSU
3. EWU
4. UCA
5. JSU

Really surprised at the lack of JMU here and in a lot of people's top 4s. They've beaten the 4 best CAA teams (all playoff teams) on the road. No respect.


This is a great question right now. The JMU board seemed to think it was a broken collar bone with a minimum of 3-6 weeks. Coach Houston came out with some coach speak about returning quickly. Is that so no one knows who to prepare for, or is the injury not as bad as described?

I think it's a little of both - doubt Coach Houston would lie though.

[BisonFan02]

You heard it here first.....UND will be the team to knock out NDSU this postseason. #bookit

[IBleedYellow]

You heard it here first.....UND will be the team to knock out NDSU this postseason. #bookit

Maybe in 3 or 4 years. xcoffeex

[PantherRob82]

Really surprised at the lack of JMU here and in a lot of people's top 4s. They've beaten the 4 best CAA teams (all playoff teams) on the road. No respect.



I think it's a little of both - doubt Coach Houston would lie though.

He wouldn't be lying. He set no time table.

[FargoBison]

1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: The Citadel Bulldogs
4: James Madison Dukes
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
10: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
11: North Carolina A&T Aggies
12: Youngstown State Penguins
13: Samford Bulldogs
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Chattanooga Mocs
18: Illinois State Redbirds
19: Cal Poly Mustangs
20: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
21: Maine Black Bears
22: Northern Iowa Panthers
23: Weber State Wildcats
24: Western Illinois Leathernecks
25: Grambling State Tigers

[jacksfan29]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that article from the Grand Forks Herald? I think it may have more to do with trying to gain relevance for a certain other school than actually be a quote from the committee.

I can't find it now but I'm almost 100% positive it came from the NCAA. It was their news release article about last weeks committee rankings. My guess is the Herald re-ran the story much like papers do with AP articles.

[F'N Hawks]

You heard it here first.....UND will be the team to knock out NDSU this postseason. #bookit

xbeerchugx :D

[dewey]

You heard it here first.....UND will be the team to knock out NDSU this postseason. #bookit

Dang it BF02 there are some things we can kid about but that is not one of them.

Now go to the Fargodome and say 10 Hail Craig Bohl's and 5 Go Bison's and you shall be forgiven for your transgression.

Dewey

[DirtyDukes]

He wouldn't be lying. He set no time table.


But he did say that Schor will play again this season.

[IBleedYellow]

Dang it BF02 there are some things we can kid about but that is not one of them.

Now go to the Fargodome and say 10 Hail Craig Bohl's and 5 Go Bison's and you shall be forgiven for your transgression.

Dewey

He's not kidding. The glass empty guy is serious and thinks it's funny.

[PantherRob82]

But he did say that Schor will play again this season.

So if they lose before he comes back is he lying?

[DirtyDukes]

So if they lose before he comes back is he lying?

Well that's my point - I don't think he would say Bryan will be back this season and mean anything other than our first game in the playoffs, possibly even this week.

[jmu007]

I'm thinking they probably got to do the full evaluation on the shoulder and got good news on it not being as serious as first thought. Now they could come out tomorrow and say he's done, but I'm hoping for a quick return. Considering he didn't leave the game until after running another play and didn't seem too bothered on the sideline, my hopes are high.

[Serpentor]

Hey PantherRob... new rule, if the Bearkats win it all, you have to have SHSU helmet as your avatar for the ENTIRE off season. :P

[PantherRob82]

Hey PantherRob... new rule, if the Bearkats win it all, you have to have SHSU helmet as your avatar for the ENTIRE off season. :P

But then you won't even be here to see it.:p

[Serpentor]

But then you won't even be here to see it.:p

Challenge accepted. xrotatehx

[Bison56]

But then you won't even be here to see it.:p

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[Professor Chaos]

I can't find it now but I'm almost 100% positive it came from the NCAA. It was their news release article about last weeks committee rankings. My guess is the Herald re-ran the story much like papers do with AP articles.
It is interesting that they pulled that article from NCAA.com (old link now just says "Page not found") but here it is from a different link: http://bismannews.rrvnews.com/link/113150_college-football-rankings-schedules-a-factor-in-2nd-fcs-committee-poll


It's not too difficult to see one part of the justification: the top four teams have all played FBS teams. Jacksonville State and James Madison lost to LSU and North Carolina, respectively, two losses that there is absolutely no shame in. Eastern Washington beat Washington State, a team currently ranked No. 23 in the College Football Playoff rankings, while North Dakota State beat Iowa but did go on to suffer a damaging loss to South Dakota State.
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One of the most common criticisms last week was Eastern Washington's ranking ahead of North Dakota State despite the Bison winning that matchup head-to-head. That remains the case this week despite both teams moving up, as the Committee clearly saw NDSU's loss to South Dakota State to be a critical blow.

Like I said earlier, I read those "damaging loss" and "critical blow" comments to be the perspective of the author and not straight from the horse's mouth of the selection committee.

[Schism55]

Dang it BF02 there are some things we can kid about but that is not one of them.

Now go to the Fargodome and say 10 Hail Craig Bohl's and 5 Go Bison's and you shall be forgiven for your transgression.

Dewey

If he pours one out for Earle Solomonson and Rocky Hager too, I guess I can be on board with the forgiveness xdrunkyx

[NoDakBizon]

Im sure this has been answered before, but does anyone know if the people on the selection committee get paid to be on it?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I had to put NDSU back at #1. I simply think they're the best team, again....

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: The Citadel Bulldogs
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Central Arkansas Bears
8: Richmond Spiders
9: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
10: Chattanooga Mocs
11: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
12: Youngstown State Penguins
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Cal Poly Mustangs
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: North Carolina A&T Aggies
18: Wofford Terriers
19: Maine Black Bears
20: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Western Illinois Leathernecks
23: Pennsylvania Quakers
24: Montana Grizzlies
25: Illinois State Redbirds

The Most Significant Win: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
The Most Significant Loss: New Hampshire Wildcats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League

[TheKingpin28]

1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: James Madison Dukes
4: The Citadel Bulldogs
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
10: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
11: Samford Bulldogs
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Youngstown State Penguins
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: North Carolina A&T Aggies
17: Wofford Terriers
18: Cal Poly Mustangs
19: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
20: Grambling State Tigers
21: Montana Grizzlies
22: Maine Black Bears
23: North Carolina Central Eagles
24: Northern Iowa Panthers
25: Illinois State Redbirds

TheKingpin28

The Most Significant Win: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
The Most Significant Loss: Villanova Wildcats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[katstrapper]

The results WEEK 11 - 11/14/2016



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes
Previous Wk.


1
Eastern Washington Eagles
2013
46
1


2
North Dakota State Bison
1977
22
2


3
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1869
7
3


4
James Madison Dukes
1808
3
4T


5
The Citadel Bulldogs
1767
1
4T


6
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1705
4
6


7
Richmond Spiders
1517

8


8
Central Arkansas Bears
1479

9


9
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1397

10


10
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
1355

11


11
Chattanooga Mocs
1091

7


12
Samford Bulldogs
1052

14


13
Youngstown State Penguins
1028

15


14
Villanova Wildcats
989

12


15
North Carolina A&T Aggies
824

17


16
Lehigh Mountain Hawks
820

18


17
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
792

19


18
Wofford Terriers
777

22


19
Cal Poly Mustangs
545

13


20
Grambling State Tigers
354

24


21
Maine Black Bears
293

26


22
Montana Grizzlies
258

16


23
Illinois State Redbirds
210

28


24
Western Illinois Leathernecks
205

21


25
Northern Iowa Panthers
162

30

















ORV:





26
New Hampshire Wildcats
120

20


27
Weber State Wildcats
115

37T


28
North Carolina Central Eagles
105

29


29
Saint Francis Red Flash
58

31


30T
Albany Great Danes
56

36


30T
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
56

35


32
San Diego Toreros
45

33


33
Harvard Crimson
28

23


34
Princeton Tigers
23

39T


35
Northern Colorado Bears
22

NR


36
Fordham Rams
21

NR


37
Liberty Flames
13

25


38
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
8

27


39T
Pennsylvania Quakers
7

NR


39T
Western Carolina Catamounts
7

NR


41
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
4

NR
























Fell Out Of Poll:






Nicholls State Colonels






Southern Utah Thunderbirds






Stony Brook Seawolves






Tennessee State Tigers




















Most Significant Win: Wofford Terriers
Most Significant Loss: Chattanooga Mocs

SHSU #6? now this poll is garbage... xlolx

[MacThor]

If Houston plays Schor this week, he's nuts. You've got the conference in the bag and it's....Elon.

I'm surprised Schor didn't dislocate his throwing shoulder chucking the ball up 63-7 on URI. ;)

[Professor Chaos]

SHSU #6? now this poll is garbage... xlolx
Well, make your argument for them to be higher than any of the teams ranked above them then.

[thebootfitter]

SHSU #6? now this poll is garbage... xlolx

Well, make your argument for them to be higher than any of the teams ranked above them then.
You may have missed the emoticon, Prof. But still... AGS had SHSU at #6 the previous week too.

As has been said many times... the beauty of the FCS is that we get to see how it all unfolds on the field. The committee historically has had a few head-scratchers here and there, but generally have done a pretty good job. Assuming we believe the AGS poll is the "best" one, and we know that the committee's playoff selections usually align more closely with the AGS poll than any other, it must logically follow that the committee does a pretty good job.

[BisonFan02]

He's not kidding. The glass empty guy is serious and thinks it's funny.

It's ****ing hilarious.....so is burying your head in the sand. :D xlolx

[Hammersmith]

I will let it go then xrotatehx

Will be a tough year for seeding for sure. If SHSU wins, the top 6 are pretty much sealed but depending on the eye of the beholder, could be in a billion different combinations. If they lose, It just becomes the top 5 (sorry UCA though you get a seed). Still, would find it pretty cool to have JMU/ El Cid on the 4/5 line

Billion? Try 720. Insert quip about JMU education here.

(just pulling your chain ;) )



If ND comes to Fargo in the 2nd round, do you think that they get blown out or its a very competitive game. I would imagine there would be a minor meltdown amongst Bison fans if they were upset by ND. If SDSU beat them, I think it would be easier for them to accept. **Note, I think NDSU wins it all, just speculating.

You have just broken the internet for understatement. If NDSU loses to UND in the playoffs we won't have to worry about global warming as the screams of outrage from Bison fans will knock the Earth out of its orbit and fling us into the inky void.

[POD Knows]

NDSU is susceptible to the pass. Also, I think all those championships have made them complacent. I really don't think they care.

EWU is susceptible to over confidence. Also, I think Kooper Kupp is overrated. And their defense couldn't stop a rolling beach ball.


xwhistlexxwhistlexxwhistlexxwhistlex

Calmed down....just a little good-natured trolling.

I am telling you, 6-2 stack monster on D all day long, and forget about running the ball on offense, go 5 wide, spread the field and throw quick routes, less that 2 seconds before the ball gets out of the QB's hand and you can punch your ticket.

[POD Knows]

Here is the Bible right here.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: James Madison Dukes
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: The Citadel Bulldogs
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Richmond Spiders
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Samford Bulldogs
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Youngstown State Penguins
14: Villanova Wildcats
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Cal Poly Mustangs
17: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
18: North Carolina A&T Aggies
19: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Western Illinois Leathernecks
22: Illinois State Redbirds
23: Grambling State Tigers
24: Maine Black Bears
25: Montana Grizzlies

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: Wofford Terriers
The Most Significant Loss: Cal Poly Mustangs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[jmufan999]

Well that's my point - I don't think he would say Bryan will be back this season and mean anything other than our first game in the playoffs, possibly even this week.

Wow, i guess i read it differently. i took it to mean that he's telling the truth as long as he's able to play by early January. I would love to have misinterpreted that and you're right.

[POD Knows]

So can you offer a lad some advice? What's there to talk about after the season? Give me some direction so that a brother can bring some good stuff to the table.

Politics, guns, music and bitches, those topics are always gold

[jmufan999]

Here is the Bible right here.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: James Madison Dukes
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: The Citadel Bulldogs
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Richmond Spiders
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits


exactly how i would do the top 8 as well. some INCREDIBLE matchups if those were the seeds: NDSU/SDSU rematch, EWU/Richmond fireworks, JMU/SHSU (Keeler against his old nemesis)

[70MilesFromCanada]

exactly how i would do the top 8 as well. some INCREDIBLE matchups if those were the seeds: NDSU/SDSU rematch, EWU/Richmond fireworks, JMU/SHSU (Keeler against his old nemesis)

Whoa there. Get a hold of that cart. You really believe that this year all 8 of the seeds will win their first game? xcrazyx

[RabidRabbit]

1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: The Citadel Bulldogs
4: James Madison Dukes
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: Richmond Spiders
11: Youngstown State Penguins
12: Samford Bulldogs
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Chattanooga Mocs
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Villanova Wildcats
19: Illinois State Redbirds
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Western Illinois Leathernecks
22: North Carolina A&T Aggies
23: Saint Francis Red Flash
24: Pennsylvania Quakers
25: Grambling State Tigers

RabidRabbit

The Most Significant Win: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
The Most Significant Loss: Liberty Flames

[ST_Lawson]

Yep, that was me sorry folks. Should have been Western Illinois which should move them up over Illinois St.

So it was YOU!!!


http://i.cdn.turner.com/asfix/repository//8a25c3920eaf5fa6010eaffb99c438bf/fg_ep044_03.jpg

Just kidding...I don't really care. We've sucked things up pretty badly the last two weeks. I'm honestly surprised we're still in the top 25, but I guess 25-40 must be pretty weak right now or something.

[mcveyrl]

RE: Schor and JMU dropping. I think it will all hinge on what the committee thinks of Villanova (and specifically Villanova's offense against our defense). We were missing Schor most of that game and still pulled out a two score win. Very small sample size and all on our - to that point - suspect defense, but it's all they got. And as someone pointed out on another thread, last year they didn't seem to penalize us on Vad Lee's injury.


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[Bisonator]

You heard it here first.....UND will be the team to knock out NDSU this postseason. #bookit

This is begging for an avatar bet.xcoffeex

[Gangtackle11]

RE: Schor and JMU dropping. I think it will all hinge on what the committee thinks of Villanova (and specifically Villanova's offense against our defense). We were missing Schor most of that game and still pulled out a two score win. Very small sample size and all on our - to that point - suspect defense, but it's all they got. And as someone pointed out on another thread, last year they didn't seem to penalize us on Vad Lee's injury.


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Villanova's offense has proven to be non-existant against the better teams on their schedule. Didn't score @ Pitt (defensive TD only score), zip @ Richmond, & 7 against JMU. Adding insult to injury is the offense has horrific turnovers that puts a pretty good to great defense in red zone situations a lot.

The offense operates in a vacuum. This team shouldn't be using failed trick special team plays or going for it constantly on 4th & short around the 50. Punt the ball & make the opponent go 80-90 yards against a very quick & active defense.

John Robertson is gone. Our QB is still developing & is as up & down as a roller coaster. Our OL has also been inconsistent most of the season.

I'm surprised Nova DC hasn't pulled a Buddy Ryan & clocked the OC by now.

[McNeese75]

Im sure this has been answered before, but does anyone know if the people on the selection committee get paid to be on it?

Sure they do, but it is in small unmarked bills in plain white envelopes passed to them under a table :D

[kdinva]

1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
4: James Madison Dukes
5: The Citadel Bulldogs
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
8: Richmond Spiders
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: Chattanooga Mocs
11: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
12: Samford Bulldogs
13: North Carolina A&T Aggies
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Youngstown State Penguins
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Wofford Terriers
18: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
19: Grambling State Tigers
20: Harvard Crimson
21: Cal Poly Mustangs
22: North Carolina Central Eagles
23: Fordham Rams
24: Maine Black Bears
25: Northern Colorado Bears



The Most Significant Win: Wofford Terriers
The Most Significant Loss: Montana Grizzlies