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grizband
October 28th, 2016, 03:24 AM
I compliled a list of FCS teams still capable of reaching the 6 Division I win plateau for at-large selection into the playoffs. This will be updated each week, giving the readers of AGS an idea of who could be awarded the at-large playoff bids. The first version is an extensive list, and many teams listed realistically will not reach 6 Division I wins.

Teams are organized by conference, although Ivy League and SWAC teams are not included since their conferences do not participate in the FCS playoffs. However, MEAC teams are listed since their second place team could still theoretically receive a playoff berth.

Teams preceeded by an asterisk (*) have already reached the 6 win benchmark; those listed in bold need to win all remaining games to reach 6 Division I wins.

Big Sky
*North Dakota 5-0 6-2
*Eastern Washington 4-0 6-1
Weber State 4-0 5-2
Cal Poly 3-1 5-2
Northern Arizona 3-2 4-4
Montana 2-2 5-2
Northern Colorado 2-2 4-3
Southern Utah 2-3 3-4

Big South
Charleston Southern 2-0 4-2
Liberty 2-0 4-3
Kennesaw State 1-1 5-2
Monmouth 0-3 4-4

Colonial
*James Madison 4-0 6-1
Stony Brook 4-0 5-2
*Richmond 4-1 7-1
*Villanova 4-1 6-2
New Hampshire 4-1 5-3
Maine 3-1 4-3
Albany 1-3 4-3
William & Mary 1-3 3-4
Delaware 0-4 2-5

Mid-Eastern
North Carolina Central 5-0 6-2
North Carolina A&T 4-0 6-1
South Carolina State 3-0 3-3
Hampton 3-2 3-4
Florida A&M 3-2 3-5
Morgan State 2-2 2-4
Savannah State 1-2 1-4

Missouri Valley
South Dakota State 4-0 5-2
*North Dakota state 3-1 6-1
Youngstown State 3-1 5-2
South Dakota 3-1 4-3
Western Illinois 2-2 5-2
Northern Iowa 2-2 3-4
Indiana State 2-3 4-4
Missouri State 1-3 3-4
Illinois State 1-4 3-5
Southern Illinois 0-4 2-5

Northeast
Saint Francis 3-0 5-3
Wagner 2-1 4-3
Bryant 2-1 3-1
*Sacred Heart 1-1 6-1
Duquesne 1-1 4-3

Ohio Valley
Jacksonville State 3-0 6-1
Tennessee Martin 3-1 4-4
Eastern Illinois 3-2 5-3
Tennessee Tech 3-3 3-5
Tennessee State 2-1 5-2
Murray State 2-2 2-5
SE Missouri State 2-2 2-5

Patriot
*Lehigh 3-0 6-2
Fordham 2-0 5-2
Bucknell 2-1 3-4
Colgate 1-1 2-4
Holy Cross 1-2 3-5
Georgetown

Pioneer
San Diego 5-0 6-1
Marist 4-0 4-3
Dayton 4-1 6-2
Jacksonville 2-1 3-3
Stetson 2-2 4-3
Drake 2-2 3-4
Campbell 1-2 3-3

Southern
*Citadel 5-0 7-0
*Chattanooga 5-1 7-1
Samford 4-1 6-1
Mercer 2-2 4-3
Wofford 2-2 4-3
VMI 1-3 3-4
ETSU 1-4 3-4

Southland
*Sam Houston State 6-0 7-0
*Central Arkansas 5-0 6-1
Southeastern Louisiana 4-1 4-3
Nicholls 3-2 3-4
Lamar 3-2 3-4
McNeese State 3-3 4-4
Stephen F Austin 2-3 3-4
Houston Baptist 1-4 2-5

AshevilleApp2
October 28th, 2016, 05:13 AM
Good work, but you left Western Carolina out of the Southern.

GAD
October 28th, 2016, 05:47 AM
SWAC schools can and would go if invited, Alabama State, Grambling and Southern can't bacause they have games that weekend

F'N Hawks
October 28th, 2016, 05:57 AM
The six win part only applies to the MVFC teams. Might as well make everyone else be "7 wins". SOS.

Twentysix
October 28th, 2016, 06:02 AM
The six win part only applies to the MVFC teams. Might as well make everyone else be "7 wins". SOS.


Do you put it in quotes because even at 7 wins UND would be left out? SOS :D

TheValleyRaider
October 28th, 2016, 06:25 AM
SWAC schools can and would go if invited, Alabama State, Grambling and Southern can't bacause they have games that weekend

You'd also have to exclude the SWAC title game participants, assuming they weren't among those 3 already.

BEAR
October 28th, 2016, 09:17 AM
The six win part only applies to the MVFC teams. Might as well make everyone else be "7 wins". SOS.

That's not true. You might as well make it 8 wins as a requirement because UCA had 7 wins last year and didn't make it but a 6-5 team did.

F'N Hawks
October 28th, 2016, 09:29 AM
That's not true. You might as well make it 8 wins as a requirement because UCA had 7 wins last year and didn't make it but a 6-5 team did.

What part of what I wrote seems to be confusing......

What conference did that 6 win team play in? My point, which seems to be lost on people, was that there is only once conference that COULD get a 6 win team in and that is the MVFC, based on SOS. The rest of the teams are going to need 7 wins, at least.

Therefore, it would clear up the playoff eligibility grid above by only pointing out those teams that can get to 7 wins (minus MVFC).

grizband
October 28th, 2016, 09:32 AM
SWAC schools can and would go if invited, Alabama State, Grambling and Southern can't bacause they have games that weekend
Thanks for reminding me. I'll update that later today n

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grizband
October 28th, 2016, 09:42 AM
Good work, but you left Western Carolina out of the Southern.
Western Carolina cannot reach 6 Division I wins this season, which is why they weren't included in the list.

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PantherRob82
October 28th, 2016, 11:50 AM
UNI has 3 wins. That is playoff eligible for a MVFC team. :D

dudeitsaid
October 28th, 2016, 01:01 PM
What part of what I wrote seems to be confusing......

What conference did that 6 win team play in? My point, which seems to be lost on people, was that there is only once conference that COULD get a 6 win team in and that is the MVFC, based on SOS. The rest of the teams are going to need 7 wins, at least.

Therefore, it would clear up the playoff eligibility grid above by only pointing out those teams that can get to 7 wins (minus MVFC).

Actually, UCABEAR's tongue in cheek post has a bit of truth in it he didn't extrapolate on. Each conference probably has a "magic number" to get to. MVFC is 6, BSC, CAA are 7, SLC, OVC, Big South, SOCon are 8, NEC and PL are 10 (and the SWAC or MEAC in the improbable chance that a team from those conferences are eligible and not in a scheduled game already), and Pioneer is autobid only. Don't know if that's accurate, but what my gut and recollection tell me. And of course, those wins must all be Div 1.

dudeitsaid
October 28th, 2016, 01:03 PM
UNI has 3 wins. That is playoff eligible for a MVFC team. :D

Thankfully, teams keep beating them so they hopefully won't make it to the playoffs and beat everybody. Nobody would want to face UNI in the playoffs! :D

AshevilleApp2
October 28th, 2016, 02:46 PM
Western Carolina cannot reach 6 Division I wins this season, which is why they weren't included in the list.

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Got it. Poor "Cats.

ElCid
October 28th, 2016, 04:20 PM
Actually, UCABEAR's tongue in cheek post has a bit of truth in it he didn't extrapolate on. Each conference probably has a "magic number" to get to. MVFC is 6, BSC, CAA are 7, SLC, OVC, Big South, SOCon are 8, NEC and PL are 10 (and the SWAC or MEAC in the improbable chance that a team from those conferences are eligible and not in a scheduled game already), and Pioneer is autobid only. Don't know if that's accurate, but what my gut and recollection tell me. And of course, those wins must all be Div 1.

Wow. Really. Since the SOCON is rated basically in a dead heat with the BSC and only behind by one hundredths of a point in Massey and 3 one hundredths of a point in Sagarin, and actually #2 in the Massey composite, you need to provide some objective evidence to support this other than your gut:D. The golden number is 7 and each team regardless of conference will have its resume evaluated. Could be +/- one down or two/three up, depending on that. I think the SOCON is a lot tougher than you and many other believe.


Massey Ranking
1 - MVFC - 1.26
2 - Big Sky - 0.97
3 - SOCON - 0.96
4 - Colonial - 0.85
5 - Southland - 0.80

Massey composite ranking
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23781&stc=1



Sagarin

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23780&stc=1

grizband
October 28th, 2016, 04:30 PM
Wow. Really. Since the SOCON is rated basically in a dead heat with the BSC and only behind by one hundredths of a point in Massey and 3 one hundredths of a point in Sagarin, and actually #2 in the Massey composite, you need to provide some objective evidence to support this other than your gut:D. The golden number is 7 and each team regardless of conference will have its resume evaluated. Could be +/- one down or two/three up, depending on that. I think the SOCON is a lot tougher than you and many other believe.


Massey Ranking
1 - MVFC - 1.26
2 - Big Sky - 0.97
3 - SOCON - 0.96
4 - Colonial - 0.85
5 - Southland - 0.80

Massey composite ranking
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23781&stc=1



Sagarin

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23780&stc=1

I think he was being sarcastic, to some degree...

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dudeitsaid
October 28th, 2016, 06:45 PM
I think he was being sarcastic, to some degree...

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Definitely not trying to slam the SOCon. And not talking about their conference rating this year. Just trying to recall the way the committee has viewed at larges and the number of div 1 wins required to make the playoffs. Admittedly, those comments were not researched regarding the recent past and could be way off base.

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Twentysix
October 29th, 2016, 02:06 AM
Wow. Really. Since the SOCON is rated basically in a dead heat with the BSC and only behind by one hundredths of a point in Massey and 3 one hundredths of a point in Sagarin, and actually #2 in the Massey composite, you need to provide some objective evidence to support this other than your gut:D. The golden number is 7 and each team regardless of conference will have its resume evaluated. Could be +/- one down or two/three up, depending on that. I think the SOCON is a lot tougher than you and many other believe.


Massey Ranking
1 - MVFC - 1.26
2 - Big Sky - 0.97
3 - SOCON - 0.96
4 - Colonial - 0.85
5 - Southland - 0.80

Massey composite ranking
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23781&stc=1



Sagarin

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23780&stc=1

Jesus the gap between the mvfc and the rest is huge.

ElCid
October 29th, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jesus the gap between the mvfc and the rest is huge.

Yeah it is. But just like the Ivy, the conf circle jerk keeps it that way, makes it hard to move, in either direction very quickly. Remember that the these rating trend from year to year so the starting points are drawn from the prior year. Once you are high, it takes time to fall and vice a versa. But the MVFC also had a good OOC, to their credit, and the FBS scalps as well, so is probably deserving.