2016-10-15 - AGS GOTW Week 7

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Get your nominations in for the AGS Game of the Week

You can use our schedule if you need to look for week 2 games.

THE AGS SCHEDULE SHEET (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gzhIxE4If0TFpg2tbG25JMGCCsh5AjoTnv8R_8NmQeI/pubhtml?gid=4&single=true)

(Please note there are many years on this sheet so select "2016" for best results for games happening this week of this season...xlolx)

You must say "I nominate" or "I second" or your nomination will NOT be counted! Cutoff is Tuesday noon East Coast Time.

You may nominate only one game. You may second as many as you'd like.

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Nominated:







Seconded:
SDSU @ NDSU - 16
Villanova at Richmond - 5
Chattanooga at The Citadel - 17
JMU @ UNH
UCA at McNeese

[BisonTru]

I nominate SDSU@NDSU

[Thumper 76]

I second SDSU @NDSU


This won't be close


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[BEAR]

I nominate UCA at McNeese.

A UCA win will end a once top 25 and last year's conference champion McNeese's post season eligibilty.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I nominate Villanova at Richmond

[melloware13]

I second Villanova @ Richmond

[Nova09]

I nominate JMU @ UNH

[Twentysix]

I second sdsu @ndsu. Kill the wabbit

[chattanoogamocs]

I nominate #5 Chattanooga at #7 The Citadel.

Battle of the South.

[Nova09]

I nominate Villanova at Richmond

I second Villanova @ Richmond

[ngineer]

I second Villanova at Richmond.

[UCMoc]

I second Chattanooga @ The Citadel

[ElCid]

I nominate #5 Chattanooga at #7 The Citadel.

Battle of the South.

I second #5 Chattanooga at #7 The Citadel.

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I second SDSU @NDSU


This won't be close


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Want to bet?

[Bisonator]

I second SDSU @ NDSU

[BisonFan02]

I second SDSU @ NDSU........

[Thumper 76]

I second #5 Chattanooga at #7 The Citadel.

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Want to bet?

Lots of bison fans here. I'm not saying it's a runaway better game by any means. I'm judging off of board demographics. I won't be butt hurt about it if it's not, Chatty and Cit is a helluva game.


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[UpstateBison]

I second SDSU @ NDSU

[Catsfan90]

I second JMU @ UNH

[ElCid]

Lots of bison fans here. I'm not saying it's a runaway better game by any means. I'm judging off of board demographics. I won't be butt hurt about it if it's not, Chatty and Cit is a helluva game.


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Last game between FCS unbeatens this year. Best D against best rushing O. Most likely for the SOCON crown. Yeah, I think this game is pretty compelling too. You might be right about the voting, but this has all the makings of a game of epic proportions. I know the marker game or whatever it is called is pretty good as well.xthumbsupx

[Daytripper]

I second Chatty v. The Citadel.

[dewey]

I nominate SDSU@NDSU

I second this game.

Lots of good games this week.

Dewey

[SU DOG]

I second UTC @ The Citadel.

[Thumper 76]

Last game between FCS unbeatens this year. Best D against best rushing O. Most likely for the SOCON crown. Yeah, I think this game is pretty compelling too. You might be right about the voting, but this has all the makings of a game of epic proportions. I know the marker game or whatever it is called is pretty good as well.xthumbsupx

The unbeaten thing is kind of overrated for me, because they both have their FBS game at the back of the schedule. Personally think Poly has a better rushing offense, but I'm biased. But I do agree if they were both regular conference matchups that's the game I would vote for.

Marker Game is a huge game here. Kinda the Brawl of the Wild or BOTPW of the MVFC.


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[KUlawJack]

I second SDSU at NDSU.

[jacksfan29]

second SDSU at NDSU

[TheRevSFA]

Second the Marker game, SDSU at NDSU

[ElCid]

The unbeaten thing is kind of overrated for me, because they both have their FBS game at the back of the schedule. Personally think Poly has a better rushing offense, but I'm biased. But I do agree if they were both regular conference matchups that's the game I would vote for.

Marker Game is a huge game here. Kinda the Brawl of the Wild or BOTPW of the MVFC.


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They are arguably better, but I was simply going on YPG at the moment. But we also have something called defense in the SOCON. Not sure every team in the Big Sky actually fields one.

[Mocdaddy]

I second UTC and The Citadel

[RDN88]

I second SDSU @ NDSU

[RootinFerDukes]

This isn't really a vote for GOTW but more of a census of how many MVFC fans are on this message board.

Please try to remove your homer glasses and admit that there MAY be a more compelling game out there this week than NDSU/SDSU. What are SDSU's odds of ACTUALLY beating NDSU? If it's not close to 50%, you can't argue it's the best game in the entire country this week with all the other matchups.

Flame away.

[RootinFerDukes]

I nominate #5 Chattanooga at #7 The Citadel.

Battle of the South.

I second this.

A pair of unbeatens meeting. Very likely determines the SoCon champion. Chattanooga only 4 point favorites. Great storyline with the Citadel full steam ahead despite losing their HC to JMU.

Meanwhile there's NDSU/SDSU where Massey gives NDSU an 86% chance of winning and they are 16 point favorites. Not even anywhere near as compelling.

[Bisonator]

This isn't really a vote for GOTW but more of a census of how many MVFC fans are on this message board.

Please try to remove your homer glasses and admit that there MAY be a more compelling game out there this week than NDSU/SDSU. What are SDSU's odds of ACTUALLY beating NDSU? If it's not close to 50%, you can't argue it's the best game in the entire country this week with all the other matchups.

Flame away.
I admit the UTC @ The Cit is another big game. In fact I second that one too.
I'd give SDSU a better shot then either UTC or The Cit.;)

[Milktruck74]

Be careful calling GOTW...you might upset someone or possibly an entire fan base....of course they stopped waving that banner when they were down 42 points in the 3rd.

[Gil Dobie]

Bison fan seconds Chatty vs El Cit

[BEAR]

Bear fan seconds Chatty vs. El Cit

[Thumper 76]

I second this.

A pair of unbeatens meeting. Very likely determines the SoCon champion. Chattanooga only 4 point favorites. Great storyline with the Citadel full steam ahead despite losing their HC to JMU.

Meanwhile there's NDSU/SDSU where Massey gives NDSU an 86% chance of winning and they are 16 point favorites. Not even anywhere near as compelling.

If you're going to use Massey as your measure then NDSU shouldn't be involved in any GOTW cause they will be favored by a bunch in every game.

I personally think SDSU has a better shot at NDSU than El Cid against Chatty, but I have some blue and yellow glasses as well.


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[kdinva]

I nominate #5 Chattanooga at #7 The Citadel.
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I second UTC @ The Citadel

[ursus arctos horribilis]

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Nominated:
UCA at McNeese






Seconded:
SDSU @ NDSU - 9
Villanova at Richmond - 2
Chattanooga at The Citadel - 8
JMU @ UNH

[BisonTru]

Nominated:
UCA at McNeese



I'll second the Bears and Pokes.

[MR. CHICKEN]

...AH SECOND......CHATTANOOGA/THE CITADEL..............AWK!

[Gangtackle11]

I second Villanova @ Richmond.

[Bison56]

I second SDSU @ NDSU (SDSU@NDSU)

[SUPharmacist]

I second SDSU @ NDSU.

[cidgrad89]

Second Chattanooga @ The Citadel

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Nominated:







Seconded:
SDSU @ NDSU - 11
Villanova at Richmond - 3
Chattanooga at The Citadel - 10
JMU @ UNH
UCA at McNeese

[citdog]

I second Chatt @ El Cid

[Scrappy94]

I second Chattanooga at The Citadel.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

I second 'nova Richmond

[Schism55]

This isn't really a vote for GOTW but more of a census of how many MVFC fans are on this message board.

Please try to remove your homer glasses and admit that there MAY be a more compelling game out there this week than NDSU/SDSU. What are SDSU's odds of ACTUALLY beating NDSU? If it's not close to 50%, you can't argue it's the best game in the entire country this week with all the other matchups.

Flame away.
LOL, salty much?
Maybe these intelligent folks took a look at Chatt and Citadels schedules and realized they have beaten noone. Both barely survived winless and awful Furman.
Play someone, beat said someone....get respect.

[RootinFerDukes]

LOL, salty much?
Maybe these intelligent folks took a look at Chatt and Citadels schedules and realized they have beaten noone. Both barely survived winless and awful Furman.
Play someone, beat said someone....get respect.

SDSU is more likely to get blown out than beat NDSU. That just screams GOTW. 3 possession underdogs.

[CID1990]

Chatt vs El Cid


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[Southern Bison]

I second Chattanooga at The Citadel.

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I second SDSU @ NDSU

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Nominated:







Seconded:
SDSU @ NDSU - 12
Villanova at Richmond - 4
Chattanooga at The Citadel - 13
JMU @ UNH
UCA at McNeese

[TheKingpin28]

I second sdsu VS NDSU

[ElCid]

LOL, salty much?
Maybe these intelligent folks took a look at Chatt and Citadels schedules and realized they have beaten noone. Both barely survived winless and awful Furman.
Play someone, beat said someone....get respect.

And yet another Midwesterner shows their ignorance to the world. Congrats. Think much?

[PantherRob82]

I second ndsu-sdsu

[PantherRob82]

And yet another Midwesterner shows their ignorance to the world. Congrats. Think much?

Not saying they are right or that you are ignorant, but if you have evidence you believe refutes their statement, share it. It makes for better conversation than attacking every Midwesterner on the board and calling someone ignorant. ;)

[Terry2889]

I nominate JMU @ UNH

Stop it!

Nova at Richmond for me.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

I second VU @Richmond.

F the Dakotas and their crayons and markers!

[PantherRob82]

Too bad they are all the same week because Nova-Richmond, UTC-Citadel, and the marker are all great games.

I agree people need to stop it on JMU-UNH. xlolx

[Schism55]

And yet another Midwesterner shows their ignorance to the world. Congrats. Think much?
So...the average Sagarin rating for the 4 fcs schools The Citadel has played is 184. And you played a D2 school. Real murderers row there!
How am I wrong again?

[RabidRabbit]

This isn't really a vote for GOTW but more of a census of how many MVFC fans are on this message board.

Please try to remove your homer glasses and admit that there MAY be a more compelling game out there this week than NDSU/SDSU. What are SDSU's odds of ACTUALLY beating NDSU? If it's not close to 50%, you can't argue it's the best game in the entire country this week with all the other matchups.

Flame away.
I second SDSU @ NDSU - EWU lost in OT to NDSU in Fargo when Nick ???, stud D for NDSU was playing. SDSU is similarly able school with a better? receiving corps and a good enough running backs so they can't go all out. If anyone knocks the Bison off in Fargo, Jacks or Guins should be the best chances.

Chatty vs Cit, and Nova vs Richmond are also good choices.

[mmiller_34]

I second Chatty vs THE Citadel

[KPSUL]

I second Nova @ Richmond

[KPSUL]

Too bad they are all the same week because Nova-Richmond, UTC-Citadel, and the marker are all great games.

I agree people need to stop it on JMU-UNH. xlolx

I nominate UNI for second consecutive week as most significant loss vs Youngstown State.

[POD Knows]

Second SDSU V NDSU

[ElCid]

So...the average Sagarin rating for the 4 fcs schools The Citadel has played is 184. And you played a D2 school. Real murderers row there!
How am I wrong again?

If you simply averaged the # rank you show how, ill informed you are. You have to look at the rating itself to get anywhere close to a accurate comparison. I did the same for SDSU and came up with 129. The ranking of the schedule 1-253 isn't a very good means for comparison. Doesn't reflect an accurate evaluation of their SOS.

The actual rating comparison for Sagarin is NDSU - 58.78, SDSU - 53.47 and Chattanooga 40.04, The Citadel - 44.29

But Sagarin is not as accurate as Massey so I suggest you use that one. Yes, we have not had a seriously hard schedule yet. Our toughest games are in the second half of the year including our FBS game. Most other teams have already had theirs including both NDSU and SDSU, hence the higher SOS so far. Doesn't change the fact that this is a big game by 2 top 10 teams. Get over it.

[MR. CHICKEN]

WEEK #1THE CITADEL-MERCER (SOC0N)
WEEK #2 EASTERN WASHINGTON-NORTH DAKOTA STATE (BIG SKY/MVFC
WEEK #3 NORTHERN IOWA-EASTERN WASHINGTON (MVFC/BIG SKY)
WEEK #4 MONTANA-CAL POLY (BIG SKY)
WEEK #5 WESTERN ILLINOIS-SOUTH DAKOTA STATE ((MVFC)
WEEK#6 RICHMOND-ALBANY (CAA)

....THINK AH'M NOTICIN' UH PATTERN......ALL-DOUGH....ALL STRONG GAMES.....AN' IN EARLY WEEKS.....PROLLY BEST CHOICES......WE'RE GETTIN' INTA MEAT UH MOST CONFERENCES SKEDS.....WHERE EVERAH WEEK WILL OFFER-UP.......TOUGH CHOICES............(CHATTANOOGA/THE CITADEL.....TWO UNDEFEATED.....AN' HIGHLY RANKED)....IS DUH PERFECT STORM DIS WEEKEND.....DUH BOARD....IS TILTED.......TOWARDS BIG FLUFFY/MVFC VOTERS....AH'VE ALWAYS LIVED BAH...."MAJORITY RULES".....JES' SAYIN'......TA KEEP OTHERAH CONFERENCES IN MIND.....MIX IT UP...UH LITTLE.......WHEN WEIGHIN'....YER DECISIONS......AWK!

..............OR...HOW 'BOUT....GOTW.....IN EVERAH CONFERENCE.....EVERAH WEEK?.......BRAWK!


.....EL CID...AH STAND CORRECTED.....&....FIXED....WENT WHIFF FAULTY MEMORY....ON WEEK #1......LOOKED UP DUH REST......xembarrassedx....AWK!

[ElCid]

Except GOTW for week one was not Montana/N Iowa, it was The Citadel/Mercer.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?184293-2016-0903-AGS-GOTW-Week-1/page7

But the point is well taken.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

WEEK #1 MONTANA-NORTHERN IOWA (BIG SKY/MVFC)
WEEK #2 EASTERN WASHINGTON-NORTH DAKOTA STATE (BIG SKY/MVFC
WEEK #3 NORTHERN IOWA-EASTERN WASHINGTON (MVFC/BIG SKY)
WEEK #4 MONTANA-CAL POLY (BIG SKY)
WEEK #5 WESTERN ILLINOIS-SOUTH DAKOTA STATE ((MVFC)
WEEK#6 RICHMOND-ALBANY (CAA)

....THINK AH'M NOTICIN' UH PATTERN......ALL-DOUGH....ALL STRONG GAMES.....AN' IN EARLY WEEKS.....PROLLY BEST CHOICES......WE'RE GETTIN' INTA MEAT UH MOST CONFERENCES SKEDS.....WHERE EVERAH WEEK WILL OFFER-UP.......TOUGH CHOICES............(CHATTANOOGA/THE CITADEL.....TWO UNDEFEATED.....AN' HIGHLY RANKED)....IS DUH PERFECT STORM DIS WEEKEND.....DUH BOARD....IS TILTED.......TOWARDS BIG FLUFFY/MVFC VOTERS....AH'VE ALWAYS LIVED BAH...."MAJORITY RULES".....JES' SAYIN'......TA KEEP OTHERAH CONFERENCES IN MIND.....MIX IT UP...UH LITTLE.......WHEN WEIGHIN'....YER DECISIONS......AWK!

..............OR...HOW 'BOUT....GOTW.....IN EVERAH CONFERENCE.....EVERAH WEEK?.......BRAWK!

Or, another way to go, is to let the E Coasters get off their butts and get involved (some do of course) because as I see it things are pretty evenly split as far as regions with this place. ECB has just got to get off it's ass and start making some noise instead of laying back and taking it all the time.:D

I'm not running more than one of these. Hell, I'd just as soon somebody else ran this one. xlolx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

BTW, the E Coast splitting it's vote, as I mentioned once last year as well, is not a good idea. Find the best one and line up if you gotta.

[MR. CHICKEN]

...ELCID....AH STAND CORRECTED......WENT WHIFF FAULTY MEMORY...FOR WEEK #1......LOOKED UP DUH REST..........FIXED IT....xembarrassedx...AWK!

[ElCid]

BTW, the E Coast splitting it's vote, as I mentioned once last year as well, is not a good idea. Find the best one and line up if you gotta.

Yeah, but the games that won really were the most compelling for those weeks.xthumbsupx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Yeah, but the games that won really were the most compelling for those weeks.xthumbsupx

I agree. On AGS, for the most part I think a lot of people's region is the entirety of the FCS world. That is why we are here for the most part.

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Nominated:







Seconded:
SDSU @ NDSU - 16
Villanova at Richmond - 5
Chattanooga at The Citadel - 14
JMU @ UNH
UCA at McNeese

[The Yo Show]

I second Chattanooga at the Citadel

[MR. CHICKEN]

Or, another way to go, is to let the E Coasters get off their butts and get involved (some do of course) because as I see it things are pretty evenly split as far as regions with this place. ECB has just got to get off it's ass and start making some noise instead of laying back and taking it all the time.:D

I'm not running more than one of these. Hell, I'd just as soon somebody else ran this one. xlolx

.....YEAH....DUMB IDEAR......DIDN'T THINK DAT ONE THRU.....xembarrassedx.....BROCK!

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Nominated:







Seconded:
SDSU @ NDSU - 16
Villanova at Richmond - 5
Chattanooga at The Citadel - 15
JMU @ UNH
UCA at McNeese

[Thumper 76]

I second VU @Richmond.

F the Dakotas and their crayons and markers!

Hey! Markers smell amazing and crayons are delicious. Unless glue isn't available. Glue is tasty AF.


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[Thumper 76]

WEEK #1THE CITADEL-MERCER (SOC0N)
WEEK #2 EASTERN WASHINGTON-NORTH DAKOTA STATE (BIG SKY/MVFC
WEEK #3 NORTHERN IOWA-EASTERN WASHINGTON (MVFC/BIG SKY)
WEEK #4 MONTANA-CAL POLY (BIG SKY)
WEEK #5 WESTERN ILLINOIS-SOUTH DAKOTA STATE ((MVFC)
WEEK#6 RICHMOND-ALBANY (CAA)

....THINK AH'M NOTICIN' UH PATTERN......ALL-DOUGH....ALL STRONG GAMES.....AN' IN EARLY WEEKS.....PROLLY BEST CHOICES......WE'RE GETTIN' INTA MEAT UH MOST CONFERENCES SKEDS.....WHERE EVERAH WEEK WILL OFFER-UP.......TOUGH CHOICES............(CHATTANOOGA/THE CITADEL.....TWO UNDEFEATED.....AN' HIGHLY RANKED)....IS DUH PERFECT STORM DIS WEEKEND.....DUH BOARD....IS TILTED.......TOWARDS BIG FLUFFY/MVFC VOTERS....AH'VE ALWAYS LIVED BAH...."MAJORITY RULES".....JES' SAYIN'......TA KEEP OTHERAH CONFERENCES IN MIND.....MIX IT UP...UH LITTLE.......WHEN WEIGHIN'....YER DECISIONS......AWK!

..............OR...HOW 'BOUT....GOTW.....IN EVERAH CONFERENCE.....EVERAH WEEK?.......BRAWK!


.....EL CID...AH STAND CORRECTED.....&....FIXED....WENT WHIFF FAULTY MEMORY....ON WEEK #1......LOOKED UP DUH REST......xembarrassedx....AWK!

The OOC games really isn't fair considering the lack of travel of the SoCon and CAA. Yes I understand the why let's not spiral into that drivel. So to point at a slant towards the west coast when those are the two major conferences that have matched their top teams with each other in the OOC when the CAA and SoCon haven't had any real stand out games prior to in conference match ups isn't really fair either. I do agree that the vote will be slanted somewhat due to the population of the board, but don't cry about not having the GOTW when your conference offers weak matchups in the OOC. Every conference ends up with the GOTW (at least power conferences) at least once if not twice. I'm inclined to lean towards the Chatty Citadel game even though I'm a SDSU fan. But using the OOC games is a bit of a biased assessment due to matchups.



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[chattownmocs]

I second chattanooga @the Citadel

It might be a little different if SDSU beat cal poly but they didn't. Don't see where the decision is.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

This should be one hell of a boat race this week...if you bunch of Richards remember to come back and push a button.

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Nominated:







Seconded:
SDSU @ NDSU - 16
Villanova at Richmond - 5
Chattanooga at The Citadel - 16
JMU @ UNH
UCA at McNeese

[Twentysix]

Hmm, if someone really cared they could go drum up support on bisonville.

I don't care enough to do it, but it's an idea.

[Millwoch]

I second Chatty @ El Cid

[RootinFerDukes]

Too bad they are all the same week because Nova-Richmond, UTC-Citadel, and the marker are all great games.

I agree people need to stop it on JMU-UNH. xlolx

JMU/UNH is a big game, but it's at best the #4 game this week. It's bound to be more competitive than the SDSU/NDSU game though, strictly looking at it "on paper". Yes i know, games aren't played on paper.

[RootinFerDukes]

I may have started a pro-socon revolution this week xlolx

[PantherRob82]

JMU/UNH is a big game, but it's at best the #4 game this week. It's bound to be more competitive than the SDSU/NDSU game though, strictly looking at it "on paper". Yes i know, games aren't played on paper.

I agree that it is a big game, but I don't anticipate it being a close one.

[Thumper 76]

Hmm, if someone really cared they could go drum up support on bisonville.

I don't care enough to do it, but it's an idea.

No way. This is the AGS GOTW not bisonville's


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[ursus arctos horribilis]

JMU/UNH is a big game, but it's at best the #4 game this week. It's bound to be more competitive than the SDSU/NDSU game though, strictly looking at it "on paper". Yes i know, games aren't played on paper.

Then why not quit crying about this crap? JFC, this is what this board wants as the GOTW. Holy Christ.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

No way. This is the AGS GOTW not bisonville's


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Exactly. I would ignore a bunch of Johnny come lately's. If they are a regular posting member, great, if not, pay no attention.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

The nominations and seconds are now closed.

xlolx


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Nominated:







Seconded:
SDSU @ NDSU - 16
Villanova at Richmond - 5
Chattanooga at The Citadel - 17
JMU @ UNH
UCA at McNeese

[ursus arctos horribilis]

The fight is on, get your vote in.

[RootinFerDukes]

Then why not quit crying about this crap? JFC, this is what this board wants as the GOTW. Holy Christ.

I'm simply providing some push back. Sorry if it ruffles some feathers.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'm simply providing some push back. Sorry if it ruffles some feathers.

Well, it's sort of going on and on so it seems a bit odd. I get it and all, we need push back at times. I was just scratching my head as I thought you were the one a few weeks back sort of with a dismissive post on "What does a winner even get?" so it seemed strange to be taking it so seriously now. Could be completely wrong on that assessment though.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'm simply providing some push back. Sorry if it ruffles some feathers.

AND, you did likely motivate some others to get involved and I do appreciate that a whole lot.xthumbsupx

[Thumper 76]

Well, it's sort of going on and on so it seems a bit odd. I get it and all, we need push back at times. I was just scratching my head as I thought you were the one a few weeks back sort of with a dismissive post on "What does a winner even get?" so it seemed strange to be taking it so seriously now. Could be completely wrong on that assessment though.

Pretty sure he was the one who was mad it wasn't the two highest ranked teams in a game that got picked.


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[Gil Dobie]

Voted for the game with 2 top 10 teams playing.

[RootinFerDukes]

Well, it's sort of going on and on so it seems a bit odd. I get it and all, we need push back at times. I was just scratching my head as I thought you were the one a few weeks back sort of with a dismissive post on "What does a winner even get?" so it seemed strange to be taking it so seriously now. Could be completely wrong on that assessment though.

I don't remember posting that but maybe. I think in Week 1 I questioned if Citadel/Mercer was the GOTW since Mercer was so off the radar at the time, and still is. It ended up being much closer than anticipated I think.

I get that it's ultimately people's opinions, I just ask them to pick it because it has a good national impact or even a significant conference or postseason impact. We shouldn't be picking games solely because it contains our favorite team but should be analyzing it deeper than that. I know JMU is bound to be in a GOTW at some point when we face UR or VU and I'll catch hell then for voting for my team.

Okay I'm done. Both should be good games regardless.

[BisonTru]

D.

[PantherRob82]

I don't remember posting that but maybe. I think in Week 1 I questioned if Citadel/Mercer was the GOTW since Mercer was so off the radar at the time, and still is. It ended up being much closer than anticipated I think.

I get that it's ultimately people's opinions, I just ask them to pick it because it has a good national impact or even a significant conference or postseason impact. We shouldn't be picking games solely because it contains our favorite team but should be analyzing it deeper than that. I know JMU is bound to be in a GOTW at some point when we face UR or VU and I'll catch hell then for voting for my team.

Okay I'm done. Both should be good games regardless.

Do you watch anyone else play? We all voted for Cit/Mercer because we expected a good game. xlolx.

[BisonTru]

. I know JMU is bound to be in a GOTW at some point when we face UR or VU and I'll catch hell then for voting for my team.

No you won't

[ngineer]

What happened to the Villanova/Richmond game. I and a number of others seconded it. Are only top two nominees on the ballot? I thought if a game was nominated and seconded, it got on the ballot. Sort of like the "third parties" not being able to get on ballots without major party support.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

What happened to the Villanova/Richmond game. I and a number of others seconded it. Are only top two nominees on the ballot? I thought if a game was nominated and seconded, it got on the ballot. Sort of like the "third parties" not being able to get on ballots without major party support.

Didn't you recently ask this same question ngineer? Anyway, once in a great while if there is a tie then a third team will make the ballot. Otherwise, it is the top two and that is it. A third team on a ballot might happen about once a year. It wasn't even close to making it this time (Villanova/Richmond) due to the popularity of the other two.

[thebootfitter]

This won't be close
Somewhat surprisingly... it is!

Maybe folks are getting tired of NDSU getting so much attention and tired of all the MVFC is better talk?

[Thumper 76]

Somewhat surprisingly... it is!

Maybe folks are getting tired of NDSU getting so much attention and tired of all the MVFC is better talk?

I forgot about The Chatty Cid game being two top ten teams at the time.....I actually voted for that one tbh.


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[Catsfan90]

WHY IS NDSU/SDSU NOT AHEAD BY 50 POINTS YOU MIGHT ASK???

[The Yo Show]

Dead heat right now... what happens if they tie? Also, to whatever game loses the vote, know people still find it important.xthumbsupx

[Bisonator]

WHY IS NDSU/SDSU NOT AHEAD BY 50 POINTS YOU MIGHT ASK???

Not surprising. We aren't all obnoxious homers.;)

[TheKingpin28]

WHY IS NDSU/SDSU NOT AHEAD BY 50 POINTS YOU MIGHT ASK???

This is not bisonville

[PantherRob82]

This is not bisonville

It's like they are begging Bison fans to flood the board.

[TheKingpin28]

It's like they are begging Bison fans to flood the board.

I only voted for the sdsu VS NDSU game in hopes they would win and people would claim MVFC bias and "of course they would win with the amount of Bison fans on here."

I honestly think both games are equal in paper match-up but game wise, if NDSUs secondary does not show up big time, which would not surprise me, then this game would be the game of the week. If NDSU has any kind of a secondary, this game will not be as "balanced" as it could be.

[Catsfan90]

This is not bisonville

I apologize for trying to post a political video in this forum. It won't happen again.

ursus approves this message.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Cats, I see the attempt at humor but that ain't going here my man, sorry.xthumbsupx

[Catsfan90]

Cats, I see the attempt at humor but that ain't going here my man, sorry.xthumbsupx
I got it won't happen again :p

[TheKingpin28]

I apologize for trying to post a political video in this forum. It won't happen again.

ursus approves this message.

I'd be willing to bet I enjoy it since we have some similar views when it comes to politics, but I am willing to bet I am more conservative when it comes to economics and more laisse-fair when it comes to social issues, but if you want to rile the masses, go to bisonville.

[BisonFan02]

I'd be willing to bet I enjoy it since we have some similar views when it comes to politics, but I am willing to bet I am more conservative when it comes to economics and more laisse-fair when it comes to social issues, but if you want to rile the masses, go to bisonville.

I've been tempted to just go over there and go all Galt on them and see how quick I can get banned or buried in red chicklets.....seriously xlolx

[TheKingpin28]

I've been tempted to just go over there and go all Galt on them and see how quick I can get banned or buried in red chicklets.....seriously xlolx


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[Mayville Bison]

If you simply averaged the # rank you show how, ill informed you are. You have to look at the rating itself to get anywhere close to a accurate comparison. I did the same for SDSU and came up with 129. The ranking of the schedule 1-253 isn't a very good means for comparison. Doesn't reflect an accurate evaluation of their SOS.

The actual rating comparison for Sagarin is NDSU - 58.78, SDSU - 53.47 and Chattanooga 40.04, The Citadel - 44.29

But Sagarin is not as accurate as Massey so I suggest you use that one. Yes, we have not had a seriously hard schedule yet. Our toughest games are in the second half of the year including our FBS game. Most other teams have already had theirs including both NDSU and SDSU, hence the higher SOS so far. Doesn't change the fact that this is a big game by 2 top 10 teams. Get over it.

I've seen this said multiple times, but it's always with the caveat "The discrepancy in the total numbers is due to Sagarin did not predict Week 1 games or Div II games.". Considering FCS teams have a 87% winning percentage against D2 (assuming Massey picked FCS teams each time), wouldn't that be bringing up the average and both would be within 1% of each other? At that point, less than 1% isn't enough of a gap to say "use this one instead of this one".

As for the vote itself, both games have a big impact on how conference races will end up as well as seeding implications. For anyone to say that one game is definitively better or more important that the other needs to have their head examined a little. There are personal preferences, but both games (as well as a couple others) are going to cause some ripples in the FCS world.

[chattownmocs]

In college football, and probably any other sport, when 2 undefeated teams play, it's bigger than when an undefeated team plays a 2-loss team.

[Mayville Bison]

In college football, and probably any other sport, when 2 undefeated teams play, it's bigger than when an undefeated team plays a 2-loss team.

All these rules I'm learning. I guess we should re-vote on last week's poll then too since the Mercer/Chatty game was ineligible since Harvard/Cornell were both undefeated. xslapfightx

[chattownmocs]

All these rules I'm learning. I guess we should re-vote on last week's poll then too since the Mercer/Chatty game was ineligible since Harvard/Cornell were both undefeated. xslapfightx

That game was nominated? You realize chattanooga was up 38-3 at the half right? Who thought that was a good matchup?

[RootinFerDukes]

In college football, and probably any other sport, when 2 undefeated teams play, it's bigger than when an undefeated team plays a 2-loss team.

That's part of how I thought about it yesterday. Think about ESPN college game day. Who would they be more likely to go visit that week? An undefeated matchup between two ACC schools with the winner likely going to be the ACC champion or would they go to Alabama to see them play a barely above .500 LSU team? That's the equivalent of what we have here this week. Yeah Alabama is the defending champion... but they're playing an LSU team that doesn't beat them enough.

[FUBeAR]

Who thought that was a good matchup?

OrangeAndBlack - Nominator
dgtw - First Seconder
Bison56 - Second Seconder
UpstateBison - Third Seconder
and....assuming those 4 voted FOR that matchup; then, 4 other Unidentified AGS Voters (FUBeAR was 1 of those 4)

....AND

...in ATTENDANCE: 11,039

...so 11,047 (more or less) people who thought it was a good enough match-up to invest time and/or $'s to see it live.

Chatt certainly jumped out and jumped ON the Bears early...and then wouldn't let 'Big MO' enter the game after Mercer blocked a punt and scored a TD quickly to start the 2nd half. It had been a GREAT matchup the prior 2 years as each Team defeated the other while defending their home turf in very close 1-score games, despite the fact that the pre-game predicted margins of victory for Chatt were much greater than they were this year.

It just didn't work out that way this season. That said, I'm so happy to see that the Good Lord has chosen to bestow 20/20 hindsight upon you to add to the already long list of personal attributes which you so readily inform us all that you possess. Bless your heart.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

What a great battle!

I ain't gonna lie. It f'n tickles me that the AGS GOTW is something worthy of fairly good debate.

[MTfan4life]

What a great battle!

I ain't gonna lie. It f'n tickles me that the AGS GOTW is something worthy of fairly good debate.

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[ursus arctos horribilis]

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I am going to make you sound like a real asshole next week.

xlolx

[Thumper 76]

That's part of how I thought about it yesterday. Think about ESPN college game day. Who would they be more likely to go visit that week? An undefeated matchup between two ACC schools with the winner likely going to be the ACC champion or would they go to Alabama to see them play a barely above .500 LSU team? That's the equivalent of what we have here this week. Yeah Alabama is the defending champion... but they're playing an LSU team that doesn't beat them enough.

Everybody points at SDSUs record against NDSU like SDSU is some sort of a sham. They have been matched up against the bison more than any other team in this five year run. Of the bisons very few losses during that run they lost the majority of them to teams that it's fair to say they overlooked. USD, Indian State, and an average at best YSU team. The other two losses was UNI and Montana. I don't like our record against them obviously but people dismiss SDSU as if they are completely noncompetitive compared to every other team the bison play, which is ridiculous. The rivalry game is never overlooked by them. They don't come out flag or overlooking us in these games. SDSU has had some bad losses in there but they also have some games just as competitive if not more than anybody else has played them.

So please tell me what team does "beat them enough" by your standards. SDSU gets sneered at for not beating them during this stretch and is called "non competitive" when the only thing that's different between the SDSU and UNI games is UNI has won once. What a massive gap.


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[RootinFerDukes]

I'll take the bait. SDSU has lost 8 consecutive to NDSU and has not won in Fargo since 2008. You are 16 point underdogs in this particular match-up and you're on the road too in the most hostile environment in FCS football. You've lost those eight consecutive by a margin of 15.3 ppg.

I'd love to see SDSU beat NDSU, honestly. I just wouldn't argue my team's chance when we've dropped eight in a row to them and haven't beaten them in their house in 8 years.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'll take the bait. SDSU has lost 8 consecutive to NDSU and has not won in Fargo since 2008. You are 16 point underdogs in this particular match-up and you're on the road too in the most hostile environment in FCS football.

I'd love to see SDSU beat NDSU, honestly. I just wouldn't argue my team's chance when we've dropped eight in a row to them and haven't beaten them in their house in 8 years.

They aren't playing Montana this week.

[Mayville Bison]

Everybody points at SDSUs record against NDSU like SDSU is some sort of a sham. They have been matched up against the bison more than any other team in this five year run. Of the bisons very few losses during that run they lost the majority of them to teams that it's fair to say they overlooked. USD, Indian State, and an average at best YSU team. The other two losses was UNI and Montana. I don't like our record against them obviously but people dismiss SDSU as if they are completely noncompetitive compared to every other team the bison play, which is ridiculous. The rivalry game is never overlooked by them. They don't come out flag or overlooking us in these games. SDSU has had some bad losses in there but they also have some games just as competitive if not more than anybody else has played them.

So please tell me what team does "beat them enough" by your standards. SDSU gets sneered at for not beating them during this stretch and is called "non competitive" when the only thing that's different between the SDSU and UNI games is UNI has won once. What a massive gap.


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The same people who are saying SDSU is "barely above .500" are the same people that will be saying, "losing @North Carolina/Alabama/any other P5 team shouldn't hurt our chances at a seed." Irony...

Meanwhile, The Citadel hasn't come within 17 points of Chatty at home since Chatty beat 1 team (D2? NAIA?) in 2008. So since history is the only determining factor (and records of course), this game should be a blowout. We can all twist facts into anything we want. This post was probly more directed at others rather than you, Thumper. Sorry

[Thumper 76]

I'll take the bait. SDSU has lost 8 consecutive to NDSU and has not won in Fargo since 2008. You are 16 point underdogs in this particular match-up and you're on the road too in the most hostile environment in FCS football. You've lost those eight consecutive by a margin of 15.3 ppg.

I'd love to see SDSU beat NDSU, honestly. I just wouldn't argue my team's chance when we've dropped eight in a row to them and haven't beaten them in their house in 8 years.

Ok, who has beaten them in their house? Usd, YSU, and ISUb.

Also, of the games in Fargo, 3/5 have been one score or less, with two of those being decided by a fg difference. SDSU has actually played them much tougher in Fargo than in Brookings.


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[Bisonator]

They aren't playing Montana this week.
#notastadium

#notcoldandloud

[MR. CHICKEN]

The same people who are saying SDSU is "barely above .500" are the same people that will be saying, "losing @North Carolina/Alabama/any other P5 team shouldn't hurt our chances at a seed." Irony...

Meanwhile, The Citadel hasn't come within 17 points of Chatty at home since Chatty beat 1 team (D2? NAIA?) in 2008. So since history is the only determining factor (and records of course), this game should be a blowout. We can all twist facts into anything we want. This post was probly more directed at others rather than you, Thumper. Sorry

........SOUFF DAKOTAH STATE.....HASN'T BEAT.....DUH BIZONSSSSS......SINCE 2009.........AN' OWN-LAH 5...UH....18.....MEETIN'S....TOTAL....SINCE....... 2000.......BRAWK!

[ngineer]

Didn't you recently ask this same question ngineer? Anyway, once in a great while if there is a tie then a third team will make the ballot. Otherwise, it is the top two and that is it. A third team on a ballot might happen about once a year. It wasn't even close to making it this time (Villanova/Richmond) due to the popularity of the other two.

Yes, but I did not recall getting an answer. If you did, and I missed it, I apologize and now understand the system. I may have known at one time, but at my age, and too many bell-ringers over the years, I probably forgot!

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Yes, but I did not recall getting an answer. If you did, and I missed it, I apologize and now understand the system. I may have known at one time, but at my age, and too many bell-ringers over the years, I probably forgot!

xlolx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

DEAD EVEN!

78 votes and still a couple days to go. Get your vote in.

[Thumper 76]

Yes, but I did not recall getting an answer. If you did, and I missed it, I apologize and now understand the system. I may have known at one time, but at my age, and too many bell-ringers over the years, I probably forgot!

So what you're saying is same time next week?


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[Smitty]

Wow I'm surprised that the vote is this close...

Honestly the SoCon won't have any other chances for the game of the week besides for the game here.

[BearDownMU]

How is this vote tied? xconfusedx

I nominate Western Carolina vs. Mercer, bc, honestly, if half the people voting in this thing think NDSU/SDSU is as compelling as Chatt/Citadel, our game might as well have a shot, too.

xcoffeex

[Thumper 76]

How is this vote tied? xconfusedx

I nominate Western Carolina vs. Mercer, bc, honestly, if half the people voting in this thing think NDSU/SDSU is as compelling as Chatt/Citadel, our game might as well have a shot, too.

xcoffeex

The butt hurt is strong


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[BearDownMU]

The butt hurt is strong


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But the logic is stronger

[Thumper 76]

But the logic is stronger

Enlighten me. As strong as the logic that Mercer would beat Catty?


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[BearDownMU]

Enlighten me. As strong as the logic that Mercer would beat Catty?


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My God, do I have to walk you through this? The Mercer-WCU element of my statement was a device to illustrate the ridiculousness (reductio ad absurdum) of thinking the two games nominated for game of the week are equally compelling. Hence, has nothing to do with actual MercerWCU. More about looking at these two nominated games with an non-fan's eye. You're an SDSU fan. I get it. But on paper one of these games looks way more interesting.

You can go back to coloring now.

[dewey]

But on paper one of these games looks way more interesting.

You can go back to coloring now.

One of the matchups features the 5 time defending National Champions vs. a high powered SDSU team that has NFL talent at WR and TE along with a great dual threat quarterback in the greatest venue in the FCS for the Dakota Marker looking to end the Bison dominance. Both games have huge conference and playoff implications but 2 of these teams have proven that they can win in the playoffs (or at least until SDSU has to play at NDSU) while 2 of them...well they haven't.

Both are great matchups.

I am going back to coloring now.

Dewey

[MR. CHICKEN]

One of the matchups features the 5 time defending National Champions vs. a high powered SDSU team that has NFL talent at WR and TE along with a great dual threat quarterback in the greatest venue in the FCS for the Dakota Marker looking to end the Bison dominance. Both games have huge conference and playoff implications but 2 of these teams have proven that they can win in the playoffs (or at least until SDSU has to play at NDSU) while 2 of them...well they haven't.

Both are great matchups.

I am going back to coloring now.

Dewey


.................EGG-ZACKLY............BRAWK!

[Thumper 76]

My God, do I have to walk you through this? The Mercer-WCU element of my statement was a device to illustrate the ridiculousness (reductio ad absurdum) of thinking the two games nominated for game of the week are equally compelling. Hence, has nothing to do with actual MercerWCU. More about looking at these two nominated games with an non-fan's eye. You're an SDSU fan. I get it. But on paper one of these games looks way more interesting.

You can go back to coloring now.

To you, you're a SoCon fan who has been extremely vocal about the SoCon not getting enough respect. So sorry if I don't take your take as completely unbiased. And way more interesting is extremely subjective. One is two top ten teams and one is number one vs a team just outside the top 25. Neither of the underdogs have been very successful against the favorite. One offers an explosive offense and the other a grind it out triple option. NDSU was almost taken out by a similar team to SDSU this year. Chatty hasn't been really challenged much this year while the Citadel has been in a lot of close games. So maybe it is closer between the two games than you want to think, so that way you can cry bias?


Oh, and I voted for the Chatty/Citadel game so blow it out your ass ya twat.


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[BearDownMU]

To you, you're a SoCon fan who has been extremely vocal about the SoCon not getting enough respect. So sorry if I don't take your take as completely unbiased. And way more interesting is extremely subjective. One is two top ten teams and one is number one vs a team just outside the top 25. Neither of the underdogs have been very successful against the favorite. One offers an explosive offense and the other a grind it out triple option. NDSU was almost taken out by a similar team to SDSU this year. Chatty hasn't been really challenged much this year while the Citadel has been in a lot of close games. So maybe it is closer between the two games than you want to think, so that way you can cry bias?


Oh, and I voted for the Chatty/Citadel game so blow it out your ass ya twat.


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Find any post of mine ever in history where I have said anything about the SoCon not getting enough respect, or complained about the SoCon's status nationally.

I'll wait...

[Thumper 76]

Find any post of mine ever in history where I have said anything about the SoCon not getting enough respect, or complained about the SoCon's status nationally.

I'll wait...

My bad had you confused with a different bear poster. My bad. Still as a SoCon fan you're not going to be unbiased either. My point still stands.


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[BisonFan02]

NDSU/SDSU is a rivalry game including the top team in the country and arguably a top 10 SDSU. Not quite at the same level, but I will be curious how you guys vote "The Brawl" later on in the year.

As far as Chatty and El Cid. Gimme the Mocs by 2 TDs.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

My God, do I have to walk you through this? The Mercer-WCU element of my statement was a device to illustrate the ridiculousness (reductio ad absurdum) of thinking the two games nominated for game of the week are equally compelling. Hence, has nothing to do with actual MercerWCU. More about looking at these two nominated games with an non-fan's eye. You're an SDSU fan. I get it. But on paper one of these games looks way more interesting.

You can go back to coloring now.

No it doesn't. Both of these games are equally compelling so WTF are you talking about? I'm not a fan of either conference or either team which you and Thumper both are so the stuff you are trying to lay on him apparently is also on you.

There is zero difference in how much I want to see either of these games. They are both great matchups.

I've also seen a lot of this "on paper" **** this week. WTF happened that this has suddenly become some measurement?

[Daytripper]

I see that MVFC fans are making fake accounts to vote....xlolx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I see that MVFC fans are making fake accounts to vote....xlolx

I watch every new account as it is made so you'll have to show me what you are talking about cuz the last two new people are UNH and another CAA fan. So what are we talking about here?

[Professor Chaos]

Some of you guys take this waaaaaaaaay too seriously. This is game... about deciding what the best game is according to the AGS community... there are two great games this week to choose from. Loosen your sphincters a little bit.

[FUBeAR]

arguably a top 10 SDSU.

SDSU lost to Cal Poly
Cal Poly lost to North Dakota
North Dakota lost to Stony Brook
Stony Brook lost to Sacred Heart
Sacred Heart lost to Wagner
Wagner lost to Columbia
Columbia is rated #92 in FCS in the Massey Ratings.

Transitively speaking, that's not a very strong argument for a Top 10 ranking for the JackRabbits.


proven that they can win in the playoffs (or at least until SDSU has to play at NDSU) while 2 of them...well they haven't.

SDSU has never been past the 2nd round of the FCS Playoffs. The JackRabbits have won 3 FCS Playoff games in their history and they were ousted in the 1st round last year.

Chattanooga AND The Citadel both made it to the 2nd Round of the Playoffs just last year and both lost extremely tight contests in Round 2; Chatt in OT to the National FCS Runner-Up.

I don't see there being much distinction between what SDSU has 'proven' in the Playoffs and what Chatt and El Cid have proven. Of course, NDSU is whole 'nother kettle of fish, but this 'argument' is about a compelling MATCH-UP, right?

[BisonTru]

SDSU lost to Cal Poly
Cal Poly lost to North Dakota
North Dakota lost to Stony Brook
Stony Brook lost to Sacred Heart
Sacred Heart lost to Wagner
Wagner lost to Columbia
Columbia is rated #92 in FCS in the Massey Ratings.

Transitively speaking, that's not a very strong argument for a Top 10 ranking for the JackRabbits.




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[mmiller_34]

SDSU lost to Cal Poly
Cal Poly lost to North Dakota
North Dakota lost to Stony Brook
Stony Brook lost to Sacred Heart
Sacred Heart lost to Wagner
Wagner lost to Columbia
Columbia is rated #92 in FCS in the Massey Ratings.

Transitively speaking, that's not a very strong argument for a Top 10 ranking for the JackRabbits.



SDSU has never been past the 2nd round of the FCS Playoffs. The JackRabbits have won 3 FCS Playoff games in their history and they were ousted in the 1st round last year.

Chattanooga AND The Citadel both made it to the 2nd Round of the Playoffs just last year and both lost extremely tight contests in Round 2; Chatt in OT to the National FCS Runner-Up.

I don't see there being much distinction between what SDSU has 'proven' in the Playoffs and what Chatt and El Cid have proven. Of course, NDSU is whole 'nother kettle of fish, but this 'argument' is about a compelling MATCH-UP, right?

Using the transitive property is not a strong argument for anything and has been proved worthless time and time again when applied to football.

You try having success moving past the second round when you get sent to either Montana, Fargo, or Cheney either first or second round. Regionalization has been a b**** to SDSU.

[BearDownMU]

No it doesn't. Both of these games are equally compelling so WTF are you talking about? I'm not a fan of either conference or either team which you and Thumper both are so the stuff you are trying to lay on him apparently is also on you.

There is zero difference in how much I want to see either of these games. They are both great matchups.

I've also seen a lot of this "on paper" **** this week. WTF happened that this has suddenly become some measurement?

Lol. Well, technically every game is "on paper" until you play it. So not sure why that upsets you so much.

And the games haven't been played yet. Or have they? And I've created a breach in the Space-Time Continuum?

[Professor Chaos]

Using the transitive property is not a strong argument for anything and has been proved worthless time and time again when applied to football.

You try having success moving past the second round when you get sent to either Montana, Fargo, or Cheney either first or second round. Regionalization has been a b**** to SDSU.
SDSU could've avoided that if they had treated WIU last year a little more like they treated them this year. ;)

Of course that would've meant they probably would've gotten UNI in the 2nd round... but it would've been at home... well technically at home (in Sioux Falls).

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Lol. Well, technically every game is "on paper" until you play it. So not sure why that upsets you so much.

And the games haven't been played yet. Or have they? And I've created a breach in the Space-Time Continuum?

Because it is a dumb metric to use when both of these games are top notch. I mean if you want to use it when comparing two ****ty teams to two very good ones, it's still completely useless, but by all means.

Just keep seeing it as if it means something. It does not. Very simple.

[mmiller_34]

SDSU lost to Cal Poly
Cal Poly lost to North Dakota
North Dakota lost to Stony Brook
Stony Brook lost to Sacred Heart
Sacred Heart lost to Wagner
Wagner lost to Columbia
Columbia is rated #92 in FCS in the Massey Ratings.



Div I - FCS Columbia beat Wagner 15 - 13
Div I - FCS Wagner beat Sacred Heart 45 - 20
Div I - FCS Sacred Heart beat Stony Brook 38 - 10
Div I - FCS Stony Brook beat Richmond 42 - 14
Div I - FCS Richmond beat Virginia 37 - 20
Div I - FBS Virginia beat C Michigan 49 - 35
Div I - FBS C Michigan beat Oklahoma St 30 - 27
Div I - FBS Oklahoma St beat Pittsburgh 45 - 38
Div I - FBS Pittsburgh beat Georgia Tech 37 - 34
Div I - FBS Georgia Tech beat Mercer 35 - 10

[dewey]

Some of you guys take this waaaaaaaaay too seriously. This is game... about deciding what the best game is according to the AGS community... there are two great games this week to choose from. Loosen your sphincters a little bit.

AMEN!

Please stop distracting me while I am trying to color pretty pictures for my refrigerator.

Dewey

[BearDownMU]

Because it is a dumb metric to use when both of these games are top notch. I mean if you want to use it when comparing two ****ty teams to two very good ones, it's still completely useless, but by all means.

Just keep seeing it as if it means something. It does not. Very simple.

So you think both games are equally good? By what "metric" are you basing that, since my "metric" of using the phrase "on paper" is (obviously) dumb.

And I'll also try and reconcile my tragic lifetime pre-game evaluations of what games I think are more compelling that, clearly, have been based on shoddy science all these years!

[BearDownMU]

AMEN!

Please stop distracting me while I am trying to color pretty pictures for my refrigerator.

Dewey

The fridge in the house or one of the ones in the front yard? :D

[Thumper 76]

SDSU lost to Cal Poly
Cal Poly lost to North Dakota
North Dakota lost to Stony Brook
Stony Brook lost to Sacred Heart
Sacred Heart lost to Wagner
Wagner lost to Columbia
Columbia is rated #92 in FCS in the Massey Ratings.

Transitively speaking, that's not a very strong argument for a Top 10 ranking for the JackRabbits.



SDSU has never been past the 2nd round of the FCS Playoffs. The JackRabbits have won 3 FCS Playoff games in their history and they were ousted in the 1st round last year.

Chattanooga AND The Citadel both made it to the 2nd Round of the Playoffs just last year and both lost extremely tight contests in Round 2; Chatt in OT to the National FCS Runner-Up.

I don't see there being much distinction between what SDSU has 'proven' in the Playoffs and what Chatt and El Cid have proven. Of course, NDSU is whole 'nother kettle of fish, but this 'argument' is about a compelling MATCH-UP, right?

Considering that of their playoff entries they have three wins with only one home game, and have been knocked out in Missoula twice, Fargo twice, and once to EWU who I believe won it all that year.

And the fact that you not only used the transitive property to try to say SDSU is worse than Columbia is quite possibly one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.


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[FUBeAR]

Div I - FCS Columbia beat Wagner 15 - 13
Div I - FCS Wagner beat Sacred Heart 45 - 20
Div I - FCS Sacred Heart beat Stony Brook 38 - 10
Div I - FCS Stony Brook beat Richmond 42 - 14
Div I - FCS Richmond beat Virginia 37 - 20
Div I - FBS Virginia beat C Michigan 49 - 35
Div I - FBS C Michigan beat Oklahoma St 30 - 27
Div I - FBS Oklahoma St beat Pittsburgh 45 - 38
Div I - FBS Pittsburgh beat Georgia Tech 37 - 34
Div I - FBS Georgia Tech beat Mercer 35 - 10

Good work, but...NAH...even in the wild & wooly world of transitive property assessments, you have to admit using the CMU over OSU game is out of bounds. I believe the officiating crew for that butchered outcome has been permanently assigned by a court of law to 10-20 years of refereeing girl's u10 ice hockey games in Siberia. As the Bears have only lost to 2 (currently) undefeated Teams and GT, the 'path' today HAS to run thru a Yellowjackets loss, but you just can't, in good conscience, throw that game in there.

[BisonFan02]

Good work, but...NAH...even in the wild & wooly world of transitive property assessments, you have to admit using the CMU over OSU game is out of bounds. I believe the officiating crew for that butchered outcome has been permanently assigned by a court of law to 10-20 years of refereeing girl's u10 ice hockey games in Siberia. As the Bears have only lost to 2 (currently) undefeated Teams and GT, the 'path' today HAS to run thru the Yellowjackets, but you just can't, in good conscience, throw that game in there.

Yes....because THAT is where that line needs to be drawn. Transitive property FTW. xlolx

[mmiller_34]

Good work, but...NAH...even in the wild & wooly world of transitive property assessments, you have to admit using the CMU over OSU game is out of bounds. I believe the officiating crew for that butchered outcome has been permanently assigned by a court of law to 10-20 years of refereeing girl's u10 ice hockey games in Siberia. As the Bears have only lost to 2 (currently) undefeated Teams and GT, the 'path' today HAS to run thru a Yellowjackets loss, but you just can't, in good conscience, throw that game in there.

Then you, in good conscience, can not tell me that SDSU is not deserving of their ranking since they lost to Cal Poly....

[FUBeAR]

And the fact that you not only used the transitive property to try to say SDSU is worse than Columbia is quite possibly one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.

You, obviously, have not been paying close enough attention to many of my other posts.

[FUBeAR]

Then you, in good conscience, can not tell me that SDSU is not deserving of their ranking since they lost to Cal Poly....

OK, I'll concede - SDSU is DEFINITELY better than #92 in the FCS and transitive property assessment is not a perfect science.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

So you think both games are equally good? By what "metric" are you basing that, since my "metric" of using the phrase "on paper" is (obviously) dumb.

And I'll also try and reconcile my tragic lifetime pre-game evaluations of what games I think are more compelling that, clearly, have been based on shoddy science all these years!

The metric is real simple. These are two games between two sets of good teams. I can see that, the voting public can see that, but you have some magical paper to tell you which one should be counted and which shouldn't matter. xlolx

Good **** tiger.

[Bisonator]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGUgnMpOACy5mxKO8gNIiVpZZS8cHJi TbV0PTnvT2rXS18N4cC

I'm not very good at this am I?

[BisonFan02]

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I'm not very good at this am I?

Good enough for an autobid somewhere.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGUgnMpOACy5mxKO8gNIiVpZZS8cHJi TbV0PTnvT2rXS18N4cC

I'm not very good at this am I?

On paper it looks like a tremendous matchup.

[BisonTru]

Dewey wins GOTW. xthumbsupx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Holy ****, still tied and 90 total votes now. This is gonna break 100. xlolx

[Bisonator]

Holy ****, still tied and 90 total votes now. This is gonna break 100. xlolx

This will probably better then either of these games.






On paper anyway.xlolx

[Bison56]

I never realized how much the AGS GOTW affected some peoples lives.

[BisonFan02]

I never realized how much the AGS GOTW affected some peoples lives.

ECb lives matter.

[BearDownMU]

Game of the Week Winner's Prize...

Scrumptious...

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23716&stc=1

[POD Knows]

I see that MVFC fans are making fake accounts to vote....xlolx

There is no such thing as voter fraud.

[PantherRob82]

I never realized how much the AGS GOTW affected some peoples lives.

It actually effects my life and I'm not as worked up as some people. xlolx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

affects

[grizband]

On paper it looks like a tremendous matchup.
Still not a stadium

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[BEAR]

Still not a stadium

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Still no one caring about the Caribbean Island with 3.5 million U.S. residents....xeyebrowx

Furman still sucks....xeyebrowx

[PantherRob82]

affects

Voice to text, but thanks. :D

[FUBeAR]

Furman still sucks....xeyebrowx


Furman doesn't suck this week...

Apparently, CID1990 disagrees



I agree that furman sucks less today

Even citdog is now somewhat bullish on Furman

[kalm]

It's the SoCon game. There's probably no other teams at play in the conference so this is more than likely for all the marbles. The Valley teams still have marquee matchups remaining and other teams that will play into the conference race.

Plus, it's good for entire subdivision when the SoCon is more relevant.

[PantherRob82]

It's the SoCon game. There's probably no other teams at play in the conference so this is more than likely for all the marbles. The Valley teams still have marquee matchups remaining and other teams that will play into the conference race.

Plus, it's good for entire subdivision when the SoCon is more relevant.

That is an interesting way of looking at it.

[BisonTru]

It's the SoCon game. There's probably no other teams at play in the conference so this is more than likely for all the marbles. The Valley teams still have marquee matchups remaining and other teams that will play into the conference race.

Plus, it's good for entire subdivision when the SoCon is more relevant.

I can't wait for Dayton San Diego week.

#flyinordyn

[PantherRob82]

I can't wait for Dayton San Diego week.

#flyinordyn

#DicksOutForDayton

[BisonFan02]

#DicksOutForDayton

Yeah.....that's happening. xlolx

[PantherRob82]

Yeah.....that's happening. xlolx

They already played and Dayton lost.

If Dayton falls in the Pioneer and nobody notices, does it still count?

[BisonFan02]

They already played and Dayton lost.

If Dayton falls in the Pioneer and nobody notices, does it still count?

Welp......got a NEC match up we can rally? #DicksOutForDukes

[ElCid]

I've seen this said multiple times, but it's always with the caveat "The discrepancy in the total numbers is due to Sagarin did not predict Week 1 games or Div II games.". Considering FCS teams have a 87% winning percentage against D2 (assuming Massey picked FCS teams each time), wouldn't that be bringing up the average and both would be within 1% of each other? At that point, less than 1% isn't enough of a gap to say "use this one instead of this one".

As for the vote itself, both games have a big impact on how conference races will end up as well as seeding implications. For anyone to say that one game is definitively better or more important that the other needs to have their head examined a little. There are personal preferences, but both games (as well as a couple others) are going to cause some ripples in the FCS world.

This is a great point so I went back and took out the Div II games from Massey just to see how it would change the percentages.

So far this season, overall Massey has gone 331-77 for 81.1% in correctly picking winners for all games.

In picking winners in Div II games only (not all winning picks were the FCS team by the way), they went 43-6 for 87.8% picking correctly.

Take out the Div II games and Massey is 288-71 for 80.2%. Almost 1% less as compared to all games.

Still a little bit better than Sagarin has done so far at 233-60 for 78.8%....1.4% less. It usually comes down to one or two games every week where Massey gets it right and Sagarin misses it. I believe that is primarily, but not always, due to the fact that Sagarin does not even take the Div II games into account when computing the rating of teams or their SOS. When 12% of the FCS games involve Div II teams so far, that is a big chunk to simply ignore. And before you think that it will not affect teams which do not have a Div II opponent, the teams they play or a couple teams/games removed may have them and it could affect predictions.

A perfect example of this is occurred in week 3. Bryant played Brown. Bryant has previously played a pretty bad Div II Merrimack in Week 1. Massey accounted for their so so 21 point win. Sagarin did not. Massey had Brown over Bryant as a result. Sag had Bryant over Brown. Brown won. I have noticed a few of these instances. That is why I think Massey is just a little hair tighter in their predictions overall.

Eh, take it for its worth.

[ElCid]

Besides the SOCON and playoff implications, the thing about The Citadel/Chattanooga game that makes it compelling to me, without any homer bias I would hope, is that it pits the #1 FCS Total Defense against the #1 FCS Rushing YPG Offense.

It will be fun to see what will happen when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.



It also pits the #22 total offense against the #12 total defense. That is actually where I think the game will be won or lost.

[Kemo]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGUgnMpOACy5mxKO8gNIiVpZZS8cHJi TbV0PTnvT2rXS18N4cC

I'm not very good at this am I?
Still probably good enough to win the SoCon... xhighfivexxpopcornx

[Twentysix]

Still probably good enough to win the SoCon... xhighfivexxpopcornx

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/55/55d6ef1593da95d702286254b3b80d37774315b3714a87d5e8 5e73564260fff3.jpg

[The Yo Show]

In all seriousness, I asked this earlier and just waiting for an answer, what happens if this is tied at the end of the poll? Do we have Co-AGS GOTW for week 7??? xeyebrowx

[Professor Chaos]

In all seriousness, I asked this earlier and just waiting for an answer, what happens if this is tied at the end of the poll? Do we have Co-AGS GOTW for week 7??? xeyebrowx
Then a cage match between BearDownMU and Bisonator will decide the winner.

[Bisonator]

Then a cage match between BearDownMU and Bisonator will decide the winner.
Sorry PC but it's just not that important to me.xgiveadamnx

Better put Thumper76 in the cage. He can at least kick!

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/teamomniverse/images/c/cc/Thumper_(5).jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130426174246

[Professor Chaos]

Sorry PC but it's just not that important to me.xgiveadamnx

Better put Thumper76 in the cage. He can at least kick!

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/teamomniverse/images/c/cc/Thumper_(5).jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130426174246
Fair enough... Bisonator has tagged out. Thumper in!

[Thumper 76]

Fair enough... Bisonator has tagged out. Thumper in!

Let's do this http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161014/e873c80ddc39a6a3e1efe6f4239a3bb7.jpg


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[ElCid]

In all seriousness, I asked this earlier and just waiting for an answer, what happens if this is tied at the end of the poll? Do we have Co-AGS GOTW for week 7??? xeyebrowx

Coin flip?

[BearDownMU]

Sigh. Fine...

https://media.giphy.com/media/50ynGUXMC9iN2/giphy.gif

[Bison56]

Not looking good for the rabbit so far.


http://www.absolutfamilie.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/w_246_BeatUpBugs.png (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjylL3YwNrPAhWH2YMKHQdUBnsQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.absolutfamilie.de%2F2015%2F12 %2F20%2Ftv-tipp-bugs-bunny-mit-neuer-show-bei-boomerang%2F&psig=AFQjCNFZY0E-c0YJWcAyBUH_d2-ZQi16lQ&ust=1476541663418869)

[FUBeAR]

Let's do this http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161014/e873c80ddc39a6a3e1efe6f4239a3bb7.jpg


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All right BearDownMU; Thumper is calling you out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKlIDhgSnzE

NOTE: I was in a meeting and couldn't get the above video to post from my phone while y'all were having all of the fun with the BearDownMU vs. Thumper Cage Match, but it was too good (IMHO) to omit...so I'm posting this AFTER the decision was made to award a Participation Trophy to those voting for the MVFC game.

#MaulEm #SoConRiseUp #LessThan4Nevermore

[ursus arctos horribilis]

In all seriousness, I asked this earlier and just waiting for an answer, what happens if this is tied at the end of the poll? Do we have Co-AGS GOTW for week 7??? xeyebrowx

Yes, we would have. This was such a good board battle here I am going to see if we can get two articles done on co games of the week due to how close this was.

[Thumper 76]

Not looking good for the rabbit so far.


http://www.absolutfamilie.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/w_246_BeatUpBugs.png (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjylL3YwNrPAhWH2YMKHQdUBnsQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.absolutfamilie.de%2F2015%2F12 %2F20%2Ftv-tipp-bugs-bunny-mit-neuer-show-bei-boomerang%2F&psig=AFQjCNFZY0E-c0YJWcAyBUH_d2-ZQi16lQ&ust=1476541663418869)

Didn't keep my hands up
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[ursus arctos horribilis]

Thanks a lot for voting in such a high number too guys. This was probably the most fun GOTW since I've been doing them. I appreciate you guys a bunch.xthumbsupx

[ElCid]

Yes, we would have. This was such a good board battle here I am going to see if we can get two articles done on co games of the week due to how close this was.

That sounds pretty fair considering that this must be the all time high voting count for a Game of the Week.

[MR. CHICKEN]

.......THKS...TA DUH GENDER-BENDERS....O' DUH CORN BELT......WHO WENT BLUE STATES.......FO' DUH SOGONE....xthumbsupxxnodxxbowxxnodxxthumbsupx..... .....BRAWK!

[BearDownMU]

Yes, we would have. This was such a good board battle here I am going to see if we can get two articles done on co games of the week due to how close this was.

This sounds like a good idea... on paper.

[Bisonator]

Yes, we would have. This was such a good board battle here I am going to see if we can get two articles done on co games of the week due to how close this was.

Just make sure the Chat/Cit game article is a bit bigger. We all know how insecure the soconies are on here.....xcoffeex

[BearDownMU]

Just make sure the Chat/Cit game article is a bit bigger. We all know how insecure the soconies are on here.....xcoffeex

And also because it won the vote.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23717&stc=1

[Milktruck74]

Just make sure the Chat/Cit game article is a bit bigger. We all know how insecure the soconies are on here.....xcoffeex

Or add a second article for the losers so they don't cry all next week. Here ya go..enjoy your Participation Trophy.


And also because it won the vote.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23717&stc=1

BearDown wins the board for the day.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Or add a second article for the losers so they don't cry all next week. Here ya go..enjoy your Participation Trophy.



BearDown wins the board for the day.


.....THIN SKINNED........IT'S WHAA.....DEY BUILT DUH DOME........AWK!

[BisonFan02]

Or add a second article for the losers so they don't cry all next week. Here ya go..enjoy your Participation Trophy.



BearDown wins the board for the day.

Where's this alleged crying? xlolx mountain out of a mole hill....like the Appalachians. :D

[mmiller_34]

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Not a stadium.

[Twentysix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD9tR7epWW0&feature=youtu.be

[PantherRob82]

Right now the marker game is 1 point Closer then the battle in the Southern Conference. :p

[Twentysix]

Clearly the marker was the game of the week...

[RootinFerDukes]

Ladies and gentlemen, I am here to eat my crow! Yum it tastes so good!

Both games were games of the week, while VU/UR was a snore fest and JMU/UNH was more interesting than it should've been.

Congrats to the jacks on snapping that ndsu losing streak. Now beat them in the playoffs.

[skinny_uncle]

Clearly the marker was the game of the week...

Yep.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Yep.



........NOPE.....3 VOTES SHORT..............BRAWK!

[Thumper 76]

Ladies and gentlemen, I am here to eat my crow! Yum it tastes so good!

Both games were games of the week, while VU/UR was a snore fest and JMU/UNH was more interesting than it should've been.

Congrats to the jacks on snapping that ndsu losing streak. Now beat them in the playoffs.

Thank you. I'm waiting for all the Mercer fans who said we have no chance next.........


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[Thumper 76]

How is this vote tied? xconfusedx

I nominate Western Carolina vs. Mercer, bc, honestly, if half the people voting in this thing think NDSU/SDSU is as compelling as Chatt/Citadel, our game might as well have a shot, too.

xcoffeex

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm xcoffeex


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[BearDownMU]

Thank you. I'm waiting for all the Mercer fans who said we have no chance next.........


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It's gonna be a long wait. I'm not aware of any Mercer fans that said you have no chance.