Which Programs Have Progressed or Regressed the Most?

[Thumper 76]

Just looking at all the new facilities being built over the off season, especially being a SDSU fan, made me think about this topic. What programs across the division have progressed the most in the last 10-15 years and what ones have fallen back the most? Delaware sure seems to have regressed quite a bit. Used to be a perennial powerhouse and now seem to have completely disappeared.

Meanwhile at SDSU it's hard to think only ten years ago the meeting rooms were some old construction trailers parked under the rickety peeling wooden bleachers of the east side of Caughlin Alumni Stadium, with a glorified outdoor ice rink warming room as the locker rooms. Had only been to the playoffs once or twice and hadn't had a conference championship since the 60's or so. Now it's been 4 playoff runs and several playoff victories, new stadium, weight rooms, locker rooms, student athlete study facilities, a new IPF, perennial top 25 team, topped off by the jewel of the Dana J Dykhouse stadium.

From this
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To this:

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It's really incredible.

So what other programs have made huge leaps or slides compared to what they were?


Update: Didn't show any of the Dykhouse Student Athlete Center with the new locker rooms and weight facility (and let's make this post longer eh?)

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[JSUSoutherner]

I would say JSU has progressed significantly as far as facilities and as a program.

In 2009 our stadium looked like this:
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23139&stc=1

Now it looks like:
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Our strength and conditioning center is also pretty nice (built in 2004):
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23142&stc=1

and last year they renovated the Feild house:
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23144&stc=1


We also renovated our basketball arena last year (and we finally added A/C) and it was announced last month we were getting a new baseball stadium. And we're getting new turf right now. I'd also be surpised if a new jumbo wasn't in the works for sometime in the next couple years.

As far as growth in the program:

5 years ago:

-our best D1 season was 9-3
-We had never won a playoff game.
-Our average home attendance was 17,225
-We never had a season where we had more than 5000 yards of offense

Last Year:
- 13-2 record
- 5 playoff wins in the past three years
- Been to the NC
- Average attendance was 22,475 in the playoffs alone
- First number one rank in school history
- 23-4 in the past two years
- We broke about every school record in the book

So yeah, things have really taken off here and do not appear to be slowing back down anytime soon, especially since Grass has taken the reigns. We need to get him his new contract.

[Thumper 76]

Damn that's a hell of a jump in 5 years

[Daytripper]

Bowers got new turf this season.... it clashes with the chain-link fence surrounding the stadium.

[IBleedYellow]

In 2009 NDSU was 3-8.

Since 2010 they are: 80-9.

I believe. The 2010 one I wasn't 100% sure on since it was quick math, but seems really close.


NDSU also improved the Fargodome - getting new turf in there. Replacing one of our grass fields with the same turf that is in the Fargodome. Fargodome has new video boards that I don't even know how large they are.

The Bison Sports arena is just finishing up a $50M upgrade/remodel. It's now the Sanford Health Athletic Center and will be the key for all things athletics minus volleyball and football.

New indoor track and field facility, and a new bubble to go over our other outside turf during the winter months.

Not bad.

[Thumper 76]

In 2009 NDSU was 3-8.

Since 2010 they are: 80-9.

I believe. The 2010 one I wasn't 100% sure on since it was quick math, but seems really close.\

Not bad.

I'd say that the 3-8 year was the outlier in the Bison history

[SFA 93]

Program wise SFA football has never really been that consistent, lots of losing seasons. I think we take it well because basketball season is just right around the corner lol.

If you had to pin point the so called glory years of Lumberjack football it would be 1985-1999 with some losing seasons sprinkled in there.

These are our most successful seasons...

2014: 8-6
2010: 9-3
2009: 10-3
1999: 8-3
1997: 8-3
1995: 11-2
1993: 8-4
1989: 12-2-1
1988: 10-3
1985: 9-2
1974: 9-2
1973: 9-3

So by the record we have regressed, but progressed when it comes to upgrades, although nothing like the first two posters.

Built in 1973

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Not Homer Bryce (pre 1970s)

Home Bryce Stadium over the last 10 years…

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- Elevators installed
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- New Suits and Press Box
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- New Turf and lawn inside the bowl.
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- New Iron Railings surrounding the stadium

- New Video Score Board and fixed up Ag Pond
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- New purple paint job covering the light gray that used to line the walls
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- Seat Backs

Coach Conque announced that there will be the construction of a new end-zone facility in the near future (no details, but I presume a new field house with offices)

Also

- New Practice Field
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- ESPN3 deal for all home games and new on campus TV studio
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- Signed with Learfield
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- New Training Center
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[Laker]

Looking at the one time NCC schools who moved up from D2 to D1:

Great move- NDSU, SDSU, UNI

Good move- USD

To be determined: UND

Bad move- UNC, Omaha (no football!)

I think that all seven schools should be together in the same conference but that is JMO.

[dewey]

I'd say that the 3-8 year was the outlier in the Bison history

Quite right my rabbit friend. NDSU has something like 3 losing seasons since 1965.

We did add a few more trophies to the case since 2010....does that count:D

Dewey

[ST_Lawson]

10-15 years ago, for on-field success, were some of the best years we've ever had. If we're talking the era from...say...2000-2006...we were doing pretty well.
We had a few mediocre seasons (a 4-7, couple of 5-6, a 5-5), but also won the conference championship (or were co-champs) a couple of times and played in 5 playoff games. We were coming off a stretch of 38-12 over the previous four seasons and were getting guys into the NFL regularly...at one point having 12 former Leathernecks on active NFL rosters at the same time. This was prior to the Dakota schools joining the conference, but we did have a very strong Youngstown State who had, a few years prior, won the I-AA championship one year and made it to another one, as well as Western Kentucky, who would win the I-AA in '02, a Jerry Kill-led SIU team that twice had 10-win seasons, and the generally very good UNI...so it's not like we didn't have much competition.

In the time since then, we had a stretch of not very good teams, only making the playoffs once ('10) and including seasons of 1-10, 2-9, and 3-8. Things have improved over the last few years and are really looking up this year as well (at this point...obviously it's early...but everything feels like it's really coming together). Of course, we made the playoffs and went 1-1 in them last year, and knocked off a couple of really good teams in the regular season (UNI & SDSU).

As for facilities, since 2006 we have added:
2007 - East side stands renovation (http://www.wiu.edu/news/newsrelease.php?release_id=4950) (going from old wooden benches built in 1955 to much nicer and safer metal seating), new stadium south entryway, new concession stand and restroom buildings
2011 - Replaced the old grass (http://www.goleathernecks.com/news/2011/9/10/Hanson_Field_Matrix_Turf_Completed.aspx?path=footb all) (that was completely torn apart after the rainy/muddy 2010 season) with new Matrix Turf
2014 - New scoreboard/video board (http://goleathernecks.com/news/2014/8/14/athletics_0814144043.aspx) (replacing the old...barely working one that had no video)...it's not huge, but it's a lot better than what we had, and it's portable, so come basketball season, it can be turned into two decently-sized indoor video boards for our basketball arena. And because it's reconfigurable based on the number of panels in it, we could add a bit of size to it at a later time without having to rebuild the whole thing.

So, things have gotten nicer, but we haven't really kept up with a lot of the "big boys" in the conference and the FCS. We don't have the giant video boards that are going in/have gone in at places like NDSU, SDSU, UNI, and Montana, and our west side stands really needs to be completely redone...but, considering what the state has given us to work with, our location, and our relatively small local population, we're not doing too badly, I think. Hanson Field is still a great place to watch a football game in the fall.

Things we need to work on - redoing the west side stands and getting butts in the seats (especially with students)

[F'N Hawks]

I visited SFA's stadium when UND played them several years ago. Absolutely beautiful setup. xthumbsupx

[LuckyKat]

Bowers got new turf this season.... it clashes with the chain-link fence surrounding the stadium.

WAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!

[DFW HOYA]

I would say Georgetown has not regressed, but it certainly has not progressed, either.

From 1995-99, the Hoyas were 39-13 (.750) and coming off back to back nine win seasons. Yes, this was largely a result of the woebegone MAAC, but nine win seasons are welcome regardless. Initial plans were underway for a new stadium, and recruiting, even under the MAAC, had improved. Fast forward to 2016, where the program has posted one winning record since, a combined record of 50-111 (.310), with a combined mark of 18-73 (.190) in league play. Georgetown's combined record versus Lehigh, Colgate, and Fordham? 3-40 (.069). The recruiting has stalled to where Georgetown isn't competing against its own conference for recruits owing to a lack of scholarships, the stadium remains in a 11 year holding pattern, and the program is outspent as much as there to one by other PL schools.

Lessons learned?

1. Timing. In hindsight it may be easy to say Georgetown wasn't ready for the Patriot, but it was in some areas and not in others. It wasn't ready for the increase in league-wide spending which followed Colgate's 2003 finalist appearance and Fordham's budget increases. Then again, it wasn't going down with the ship as the MAAC was sinking, and the NEC was the only other realistic option (and still is) for a conference. That the PL needed a quick marriage after Towson gave notice to leave worked for both sides, but neither Bob Benson nor Kevin Kelly ever adjusted to the changes necessary.

2. Supply.In the 1990's there were 25 Northeastern schools outside the Ivy playing non-scholarship football. Now there are just two: Georgetown and Marist. At some point I think Marist entertains a NEC bid in that the Pioneer won't fit their aspirations as a regional program. Whither Georgetown? The lure of some kind of arrangement to become the "Ninth Ivy" keeps any serious discussion on scholarships well off the table. But there's really no incentive for the Ancient Eight to do this, and unless the PL seriously makes overtures to withdraw its associate membership, there's little incentive for Georgetown to move on the issue, either.

3. Expectations. Nothing sends a program sideways than missed expectations. Problem is, expectations have been drained from this program. No one is on a hot seat for a four, two, or even no-win program. Coaches will always be graded at Georgetown more on graduation rates and recruiting kids that stay out of trouble than whether the Hoyas win or lose. That's true in lacrosse (2-12 in 2016, no NCAA bid since 2007), in baseball (without a winning season since 1986), and even in basketball, which has missed the NCAA's two of the last three seasons, which is why outsiders are incredulous that John Thompson III can go 15-18 last year and there's no heat. That's how Georgetown works.

Fifteen years ago, Georgetown football could have been that "sleeping giant" as Pete Lembo once remarked. Nobody uses that phrase these days.

[Panther88]

I think it's been documented ad nauseum Prairie View A&M's plights over the last ~15 or so years.

0-80 consecutive losing game skid in then i-aa due in part for not offering any type of athletic scholarship for 10 consecutive years. (1990-1997)
PVAMU offered only 15 partial scholarships starting in 1997, if memory serves correct and then upped that number to 30 a few years after.
Our "workout facility" consisted of a shared weightroom in the basement of the basketball stadium AND a "hotbox" room [trailer] :( .

Our decrepit old stadium as seen below.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/3268099067_17d1df4aa2.jpg

Visitor's stands below. Your life was in danger attempting to ascend to the highest seat lol. xlolx

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http://image1.stadiumjourney.com/images/stadiums/1786_Prairie_View_Blackshear_Stadium_5.jpg

Fast forward to today:

PVAMU offers 63 full rides, sans 3 when we took an APR hit a few ago but have since recouped.
And, these are our new state of the art diggs as seen below.

https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8683/28437080642_42d611b57f_z.jpg

I posted pics of the weightroom and other items in the "Construction Pictures" thread. This picture was taken in May 2016.

I'd think PVAMU should receive some type of notoriety since it went from 0-80 offering zero schols w/ ridiculously subpar facilities/venues to all this stuff that's currently occurring today. Ciao.

[Daytripper]

I think it's been documented ad nauseum Prairie View A&M's plights over the last ~15 or so years.

0-80 consecutive losing game skid in then i-aa due in part for not offering any type of athletic scholarship for 10 consecutive years. (1990-1997)
PVAMU offered only 15 partial scholarships starting in 1997, if memory serves correct and then upped that number to 30 a few years after.
Our "workout facility" consisted of a shared weightroom in the basement of the basketball stadium AND a "hotbox" room [trailer] :( .

Our decrepit old stadium as seen below.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/3268099067_17d1df4aa2.jpg

Visitor's stands below. Your life was in danger attempting to ascend to the highest top lol. xlolx

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3268098941_357470040b.jpg

https://9968c6ef49dc043599a5-e151928c3d69a5a4a2d07a8bf3efa90a.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.c om/627617-1.jpg

http://image1.stadiumjourney.com/images/stadiums/1786_Prairie_View_Blackshear_Stadium_5.jpg

Fast forward to today:

PVAMU offers 63 full rides, sans 3 when we took an APR hit a few ago but have since recouped.
And, these are our new state of the art diggs as seen below.

https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8683/28437080642_42d611b57f_z.jpg

I posted pics of the weightroom and other items in the "Construction Pictures" thread. This picture was taken in May 2016.

I'd think PVAMU should receive some type of notoriety since it went from 0-80 offering zero schols w/ ridiculously subpar facilities/venues to all this stuff that's currently occurring today. Ciao.


Agree. Well done. Didn't you get a large chunk of money from TAMU for this project?

[bluehenbillk]

Some schools have made the jump from FCS to FBS.

Other schools like many shown above have invested in FCS.

Some, sadly like Delaware, have done their very best to stay still & watch the train go by, thus regressing.

[Thumper 76]

I think it's been documented ad nauseum Prairie View A&M's plights over the last ~15 or so years.

0-80 consecutive losing game skid in then i-aa due in part for not offering any type of athletic scholarship for 10 consecutive years. (1990-1997)
PVAMU offered only 15 partial scholarships starting in 1997, if memory serves correct and then upped that number to 30 a few years after.
Our "workout facility" consisted of a shared weightroom in the basement of the basketball stadium AND a "hotbox" room [trailer] :( .

Our decrepit old stadium as seen below.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/3268099067_17d1df4aa2.jpg

Visitor's stands below. Your life was in danger attempting to ascend to the highest top lol. xlolx

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3268098941_357470040b.jpg

https://9968c6ef49dc043599a5-e151928c3d69a5a4a2d07a8bf3efa90a.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.c om/627617-1.jpg

http://image1.stadiumjourney.com/images/stadiums/1786_Prairie_View_Blackshear_Stadium_5.jpg

Fast forward to today:

PVAMU offers 63 full rides, sans 3 when we took an APR hit a few ago but have since recouped.
And, these are our new state of the art diggs as seen below.

https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8683/28437080642_42d611b57f_z.jpg

I posted pics of the weightroom and other items in the "Construction Pictures" thread. This picture was taken in May 2016.

I'd think PVAMU should receive some type of notoriety since it went from 0-80 offering zero schols w/ ridiculously subpar facilities/venues to all this stuff that's currently occurring today. Ciao.

That's a hell of a turnaround for the program there. The new stadium is gorgeous too!

[Panther88]

No sir, DayTripp. TAMU the sister school wouldn't give PVAMU shat but a hard time, ever. However, the TAMUS, our system, agreed to the financing that we have in place for the 4 new venues: soccer stadium, t&f stadium, football stadium, and athl support ctr/dressing room/et al. TAMUS didn't provide the $$$$. We did. :)

[Panther88]

That's a hell of a turnaround for the program there. The new stadium is gorgeous too!

Thanks for the kind words, Thump. Really appreciate it man.

Now we need to entice NDSU's 4th and 5th stringers along w/ their 3rd string cheerleaders so we can actually start competing on the gridiron. :D xlolx

[Daytripper]

No sir, DayTripp. TAMU the sister school wouldn't give PVAMU shat but a hard time, ever. However, the TAMUS, our system, agreed to the financing that we have in place for the 4 new venues: soccer stadium, t&f stadium, football stadium, and athl support ctr/dressing room/et al. TAMUS didn't provide the $$$$. We did. :)


Okay. Makes sense. Regardless, you guys have some great venues. Can't wait for the product on the field to catch up.

[Thumper 76]

Thanks for the kind words, Thump. Really appreciate it man.

Now we need to entice NDSU's 4th and 5th stringers along w/ their 3rd string cheerleaders so we can actually start competing on the gridiron. :D xlolx

With a place like that and a good coach no reason you shouldn't be real good real quick.

[Panther88]

Okay. Makes sense. Regardless, you guys have some great venues. Can't wait for the product on the field to catch up.

We have a looooooooooooooooooong way to go to even begin to think we can compete w/ the recruiting that SHSU has in place.

We're looking forward to the game next fall, which has an interesting schedule for us since we'll have only 7 IC games. SHSU and IWU are on our fall 2017 schedule. SFA, ACU, and HBU should be willing participants to work out a home-and-home w/ us, I would think. :) We have the facilities, we have the coaching, and we kinda' sorta' have the recruiting in place so those excuses are out the door why we cannot regionally compete w/ each other.

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Well at Montana.....we continue to upgrade our stadium and facilities.....Not sure if I'm missing anything else....but with the new upgrades we will certaintly be on par or better than many mountain west schools....

You could say we've downgraded on the field since we dont win the Big Sky every year or go to the national championship every other year anymore...lol

I have a feeling the dominance is coming back under new coach Bob Stitt however. We need a first class team to go along with our first class facilities.

1)Stadium expansion of Majestic Plaza
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2)New video ribbon boards below majestic plaza....and along wing additions.
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3)Brand new megatron and speaker system.

Old
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NEW..just finishing up.
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/missoulian.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/05/20533342-486f-58a3-b06a-e8e6b97d5288/5744c6b9209f0.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C675

New champions center currently under construction...will house training facility..athletic offices...meeting rooms for football team and locker rooms which are badly needed.
http://winapps.umt.edu/winapps/athletics/upwithmontana/images/strength_center_30q.jpg
http://wac.b63f.edgecastcdn.net/80B63F/images/sidearm.sites/gogriz.com/images/2015/9/17/WGCS_Areal.jpg

New athletics acedemics center just opened last year...
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/missoulian.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/9/53/9539aac2-35e4-5112-8bf7-ae19d7c16524/55ea4b0492153.image.jpg

New Turf
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13909129_10155016854132646_4949194405473782393_o.j pg

[Panther88]

With a place like that and a good coach no reason you shouldn't be real good real quick.

It took 40+ consecutive years for us to dig this deeeeeeeeep hole, Thump. I'm not so sure it'll be that easy to right this horrible [football athletic] wrong so quickly. I'd like to believe but based on what I see, it'll take a few recruiting classes to get PVAMU competitive again.

The pressure is on our coaching staff since they went 9-2 last fall w/ no spring practice, no full staff in place until that prior May, and no summer practice(s). Coach Simmons is in his now 2nd year of being a head coach lol and so are the off/def coords [both are entering just their 2nd yr of experience] so they are learning as they go.

[BEAR]

Dang that is NIIIIIICE! Wish we had those facilities! xbowx

https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8683/28437080642_42d611b57f_z.jpg

Many in the FCS have larger stadiums than UCA and that's cool. Just one decade into FCS and only 5 years post season and title eligible for us so it will take some time I'm sure.

[MR. CHICKEN]

........REGRESSED..........DELAWARE.......YA'LL KNOW DUH STORY..........BRAWK!

[Daytripper]

We have a looooooooooooooooooong way to go to even begin to think we can compete w/ the recruiting that SHSU has in place.

We're looking forward to the game next fall, which has an interesting schedule for us since we'll have only 7 IC games. SHSU and IWU are on our fall 2017 schedule. SFA, ACU, and HBU should be willing participants to work out a home-and-home w/ us, I would think. :) We have the facilities, we have the coaching, and we kinda' sorta' have the recruiting in place so those excuses are out the door why we cannot regionally compete w/ each other.

I know you may not want to hear it, you should try to join the Southland. You are already better than Nicholls, HBU, ACU, and UIW.... It would also allow you to enjoy the playoffs after a good season. And you facilities would probably be the best in the conference.

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Fall from grace!

[Thumper 76]

I know you may not want to hear it, you should try to join the Southland. You are already better than Nicholls, HBU, ACU, and UIW.... It would also allow you to enjoy the playoffs after a good season. And you facilities would probably be the best in the conference.

This. Even though then Southland teams would be able to schedule even less OOC FCS games.

[Daytripper]

This. Even though then Southland teams would be able to schedule even less OOC FCS games.

I'm thinking dividing the conference into two divisions and limiting the in-conference games to eight.

[Panther88]

I know you may not want to hear it, you should try to join the Southland. You are already better than Nicholls, HBU, ACU, and UIW.... It would also allow you to enjoy the playoffs after a good season. And you facilities would probably be the best in the conference.
It's already been/being discussed. Trust. xreadx

[VikingPSU]

........REGRESSED..........DELAWARE.......YA'LL KNOW DUH STORY..........BRAWK!
Tell us the story again, pleeeeeeassssssss!

[VikingPSU]

University of North Dakota has been progressing

[TheValleyRaider]

Over the last 10-15 years, I'd include Coastal and Towson for most progress. EWU seems like another one that wasn't really much to speak of at the turn of the century, but has been seeded more often than not in the playoffs following their '10 championship.

This thread definitely points to Delaware as most regressed, but I think you could make a case for Furman as well.

[UAalum72]

Results haven't shown up on the field yet, given the move up to the CAA, but there's no question Albany's playing field has made a major leap forward, from University Field

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iVuc95ewGvk/SWD4ZVXOlSI/AAAAAAAAGxU/4fxDaHTRHMM/S240/gse_multipart58744_(2)+(2).jpg http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/wp-content/gallery/albany-great-danes-university-field/ua-home-side.jpg http://www.albany.edu/main/features/2003/06-03/giants/giants_scrimmage2.jpg

which gave fans views like this
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/wp-content/gallery/albany-great-danes-university-field/albany-view.png http://www.basketballforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/DSCN0581.JPG(I know, some of the views were good, but not the kickoff)


on seats like this
http://www.basketballforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/DSCN0503.JPG http://www.basketballforum.com/photopost/data/500/medium/DSCN0502.JPG

to this
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yqE5GDMlc0k/VOqCPOQp5TI/AAAAAAAAOWc/dzpeyv5eQM0/s1600/SUNY%2BBob%2BFord%2BField.jpghttp://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics33/640/BP/BPCMHHQCJHBPZOL.20131001205258.jpg

[Sader87]

Depends on how far you want to go back, but I'd wager no school has regressed as much as Holy Cross has since the early 1990s. HC was a perennial Top 10 or 20 team in 1-AA during the 1980s and early 1990s but since 1992 or so has really fallen off the map in the 1-AA/FCS universe.

Hopefully, with the return of scholarships and an administration that seems to be committed (new indoor practice faciilities, scheduling improvements etc) the regression has hopefully halted and progress is finally, finally being made again.

[mvemjsunpx]

I don't think any program has regressed more since the turn of the millennium than Florida A&M.

[geaux_sioux]

University of North Dakota has been progressing

Progressing back to where we should be. The school decided to actually provide a D1 budget and get a decent coach. Its been a dark 9 years but I can see the light again.

[FUBeAR]

Mercer Stadium 2012
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23172&stc=1http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23173&stc=1

Mercer Schedule 2013
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23174&stc=1

Mercer Stadium - Current
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23175&stc=1

Mercer Schedule - 2016
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23176&stc=1

Oh...and there was THIS in 2014....DRAT...can only attach 5 files per post...to be continued in next post then...

[FUBeAR]

...continued...

There was THIS in 2014...
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23177&stc=1

...and, then THIS, in 2015...
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23178&stc=1

Amazing Progress - Facilities, Strength of Schedule, Taking down Top 5 Team - can't wait to see what progress 2016 holds in store!

[MR. CHICKEN]

Tell us the story again, pleeeeeeassssssss!


....OK GRASSHOPPER.........WE SUCK.....USED TA BE GOOD........THE END...........BRAWK!

....ps......READ DUH THREADS......IT'S ALL IN HERE.....SOMEWHERE........AWK!

[BEAR]

...continued...

There was THIS in 2014...


...and, then THIS, in 2015...
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23178&stc=1

Amazing Progress - Facilities, Strength of Schedule, Taking down Top 5 Team - can't wait to see what progress 2016 holds in store!

That's alot of Cox in the endzone!

[FUBeAR]

That's alot of Cox in the endzone!

Yes - I see some UTC Staff & Fans heading to the Visitor's Locker Room area...and some advertising signs also. xsmiley_wix

[Sammy94]

I'm thinking dividing the conference into two divisions and limiting the in-conference games to eight.

This....
The SEC of FCS

SFA, Sam, PV, IWU, HBU, ACU in the west. Lamar, Nicholls, McNeese, NWST, sela, UCA in the east.

[Grizalltheway]

This....
The SEC of FCS

SFA, Sam, PV, IWU, HBU, ACU in the west. Lamar, Nicholls, McNeese, NWST, sela, UCA in the east.

Big Sky already has that title, especially when Idaho comes back and we'll be up to 14 teams...

[PantherRob82]

University of North Dakota has been progressing

With all the time they spent in the weight room you would expect big gains.

[Daytripper]

With all the time they spent in the weight room you would expect big gains.

:D This never gets old...

[PantherRob82]

:D This never gets old...

15 years from now this will still be my response.

[Panther88]

This....
The SEC of FCS

SFA, Sam, PV, IWU, HBU, ACU in the west. Lamar, Nicholls, McNeese, NWST, sela, UCA in the east.

Travel + timewise + distance = friendly [for students & fans]

[Daytripper]

Travel + timewise + distance = friendly [for students & fans]

Play 5 against your division, three (alternating three each year from the other division, or something like) = 8 conference games. Leaves 3-4 FBS or FCS OOC games to make some money.

[Hood]

I need to make another visit to SHSU and SFA it seems. Nice upgrades SFA. SHSU guys lets see some pics.

[IBleedYellow]

15 years from now this will still be my response.
The best part is its not NDSU fans saying it.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

[BEAR]

This....
The SEC of FCS

SFA, Sam, PV, IWU, HBU, ACU in the west. Lamar, Nicholls, McNeese, NWST, sela, UCA in the east.

If you wanted a true SEC of the FCS:

UCA, SAM, McNeese, SFA, SLU, ACU. - SLC WEST
Lamar,Nicholls, NWST, HBU, IWU, PV - SLC EAST

Lamar is kind of the Tennessee. Plus you have a heavy talented SEC West that is dominating right now.

[ewueagle2010]

At EWU, the facilities still have a long way to go to be on par with what the program has done on the field. But even yet, they have improved quite significantly in the last 10-15 years.

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq96/blackfalkin/oldstadium.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi8-e_ar7fOAhXGSiYKHW25A_oQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.championshipsubdivision.com%2 Fforums%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D4608&bvm=bv.129389765,d.ZGg&psig=AFQjCNGM5hh96Vr7mz-ad5PihSLap6m-Gw&ust=1470936391887301)
Woodword Field in early 2000's

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/4789314.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi2gvKJsLfOAhUDSSYKHX3GDkwQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panoramio.com%2Fphoto%2F47893 14&bvm=bv.129389765,d.ZGg&psig=AFQjCNGM5hh96Vr7mz-ad5PihSLap6m-Gw&ust=1470936391887301)
Renovation adding the new press box

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/EWU-Roos-Field.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwicxMmesLfOAhVILyYKHfVQB4UQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRoos_F ield&bvm=bv.129389765,d.ZGg&psig=AFQjCNGM5hh96Vr7mz-ad5PihSLap6m-Gw&ust=1470936391887301)
Addition of Red turf in 2010 and changing name to Roos Field

http://rs244.pbsrc.com/albums/gg17/BelgradeBobcat/Roos%20Field%20Eastern%20Washington%20University/20150919_144406_zpsgmiusscp.jpg~c200 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiJmvrrsrfOAhXHWSYKHY6SBCEQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fs244.photobucket.com%2Fuser%2FBel gradeBobcat%2Flibrary%2FRoos%2520Field%2520Eastern %2520Washington%2520University&bvm=bv.129389765,d.ZGg&psig=AFQjCNGu-8D3o9NP728o9wGdssCEUnVvEQ&ust=1470937357536571)
New video board in 2012

https://www.lawnstarter.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/roos-field.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiKnp2ss7fOAhVDOyYKHRafCQAQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lawnstarter.com%2Fblog%2Flan dscaping%2Fugliest-college-football-fields%2F&bvm=bv.129389765,d.ZGg&psig=AFQjCNEXEXeY12TpW4B6sHojesYCslj-zA&ust=1470937495813284)
Current look with addition of new Bookstore/Gear shop in the upper right

On the field, the program has excelled mightily, espcially since Beau Baldwin took over in 2008 (73-30 record @EWU)

2002 - 6-5 record, no playoffs
2003 - 6-5 record, no playoffs
2004 - 9-4 record, Big Sky Champions, 2nd rd loss to SHSU
2005 - 7-5 record, Big Sky Champions, 1st rd loss to Northern Iowa
2006 - 3-8 record, no playoffs
2007 - 9-4 record, 2nd rd loss to Appalachian State
2008 - 6-5 record, no playoffs (Buck Buchanan winner - Greg Peach)
2009 - 8-4 record, 2nd rd loss to SFA
2010 - 13-2 record, Big Sky Champions, National Champions (Buck Buchanan winner - J.C. Sherritt)
2011 - 6-5 record, no playoffs (Walter Payton winner - Bo Levi Mitchell)
2012 - 11-3 record, Big Sky Champions, Semi Final loss to SHSU
2013 - 12-3 record, Big Sky Champions, Semi Final loss to Towson (Upset victory over #25 Oregon State)
2014 - 11-3 record, Big Sky Champions, Quarter Final loss to Illinois State
2015 - 6-5 record, no playoffs (Walter Payton winner - Cooper Kupp)

Stand out players

Michael Roos (2001-2004) NFL, Tennessee Titans
Erik Meyer (2002-2005) AFL, Spokane Shock, San Jose Sabercats (Walter Payton Winner, 2005)
Matt Nichols (2006-2009) CFL, Winnipeg Blue Bombers
Greg Peach (2005-2008) CFL, 3 teams
Tiawan Jones (2008-2010) NFL, Oakland Raiders
Bo Levi Mitchell (2010-2011) CFL, Calgary Stampeders
JC Sherritt (2007-2010) CFL, Edmonton Eskimos
TJ Lee (2010-2013) CFL, BC Lions
Vernon Adams (2012-2014) CFL, Montreal Alouettes
Cooper Kupp (2013-Current)

[BadlandsGrizFan]

At EWU, the facilities still have a long way to go to be on par with what the program has done on the field. But even yet, they have improved quite significantly in the last 10-15 years.

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq96/blackfalkin/oldstadium.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi8-e_ar7fOAhXGSiYKHW25A_oQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.championshipsubdivision.com%2 Fforums%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D4608&bvm=bv.129389765,d.ZGg&psig=AFQjCNGM5hh96Vr7mz-ad5PihSLap6m-Gw&ust=1470936391887301)
Woodword Field in early 2000's

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/4789314.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi2gvKJsLfOAhUDSSYKHX3GDkwQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.panoramio.com%2Fphoto%2F47893 14&bvm=bv.129389765,d.ZGg&psig=AFQjCNGM5hh96Vr7mz-ad5PihSLap6m-Gw&ust=1470936391887301)
Renovation adding the new press box

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/EWU-Roos-Field.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwicxMmesLfOAhVILyYKHfVQB4UQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRoos_F ield&bvm=bv.129389765,d.ZGg&psig=AFQjCNGM5hh96Vr7mz-ad5PihSLap6m-Gw&ust=1470936391887301)
Addition of Red turf in 2010 and changing name to Roos Field

http://rs244.pbsrc.com/albums/gg17/BelgradeBobcat/Roos%20Field%20Eastern%20Washington%20University/20150919_144406_zpsgmiusscp.jpg~c200 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiJmvrrsrfOAhXHWSYKHY6SBCEQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fs244.photobucket.com%2Fuser%2FBel gradeBobcat%2Flibrary%2FRoos%2520Field%2520Eastern %2520Washington%2520University&bvm=bv.129389765,d.ZGg&psig=AFQjCNGu-8D3o9NP728o9wGdssCEUnVvEQ&ust=1470937357536571)
New video board in 2012

https://www.lawnstarter.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/roos-field.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiKnp2ss7fOAhVDOyYKHRafCQAQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lawnstarter.com%2Fblog%2Flan dscaping%2Fugliest-college-football-fields%2F&bvm=bv.129389765,d.ZGg&psig=AFQjCNEXEXeY12TpW4B6sHojesYCslj-zA&ust=1470937495813284)
Current look with addition of new Bookstore/Gear shop in the upper right

On the field, the program has excelled mightily, espcially since Beau Baldwin took over in 2008 (73-30 record @EWU)

2002 - 6-5 record, no playoffs
2003 - 6-5 record, no playoffs
2004 - 9-4 record, Big Sky Champions, 2nd rd loss to SHSU
2005 - 7-5 record, Big Sky Champions, 1st rd loss to Northern Iowa
2006 - 3-8 record, no playoffs
2007 - 9-4 record, 2nd rd loss to Appalachian State
2008 - 6-5 record, no playoffs (Buck Buchanan winner - Greg Peach)
2009 - 8-4 record, 2nd rd loss to SFA
2010 - 13-2 record, Big Sky Champions, National Champions (Buck Buchanan winner - J.C. Sherritt)
2011 - 6-5 record, no playoffs (Walter Payton winner - Bo Levi Mitchell)
2012 - 11-3 record, Big Sky Champions, Semi Final loss to SHSU
2013 - 12-3 record, Big Sky Champions, Semi Final loss to Towson (Upset victory over #25 Oregon State)
2014 - 11-3 record, Big Sky Champions, Quarter Final loss to Illinois State
2015 - 6-5 record, no playoffs (Walter Payton winner - Cooper Kupp)

Stand out players

Michael Roos (2001-2004) NFL, Tennessee Titans
Erik Meyer (2002-2005) AFL, Spokane Shock, San Jose Sabercats (Walter Payton Winner, 2005)
Matt Nichols (2006-2009) CFL, Winnipeg Blue Bombers
Greg Peach (2005-2008) CFL, 3 teams
Tiawan Jones (2008-2010) NFL, Oakland Raiders
Bo Levi Mitchell (2010-2011) CFL, Calgary Stampeders
JC Sherritt (2007-2010) CFL, Edmonton Eskimos
TJ Lee (2010-2013) CFL, BC Lions
Vernon Adams (2012-2014) CFL, Montreal Alouettes
Cooper Kupp (2013-Current)



EWU only takes photos during the Montana game

[clenz]

Facility wise, EWU looks damn near the same minus that dog **** turf and an upgrade from a junior high scoreboard to high school score board.

What am I missing there?

http://images.scribblelive.com/2014/11/8/deb0c971-3c1f-4264-8f26-4f215291b92a.jpg
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23183&stc=1

[mango433]

Facility wise, EWU looks damn near the same minus that dog **** turf and an upgrade from a junior high scoreboard to high school score board.

What am I missing there?

http://images.scribblelive.com/2014/11/8/deb0c971-3c1f-4264-8f26-4f215291b92a.jpg
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23183&stc=1

And I thought the old SDSU stadium was bad.

[clenz]

And I thought the old SDSU stadium was bad.
Doesn't look quite as nice when they stop using a picture of their largest ever crowd from a game against Montana 5 years ago.

[Sammy94]

SHSU guys lets see some pics.

We got new turf ...

http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics33/800/CL/CLMGLAHQPBXTJXH.20150813141600.jpg


http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/itemonline.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/9/a7/9a73e475-58e6-5f61-9c33-d1a60e92f33f/5769dc3949be1.image.jpg

[Thumper 76]

And I thought the old SDSU stadium was bad.

At least we had the old big Daktronics scoreboard and the pine trees to add some aesthetic value xlolx

[mvemjsunpx]

Facility wise, EWU looks damn near the same minus that dog **** turf and an upgrade from a junior high scoreboard to high school score board.

What am I missing there?

It's red! RRREDDDDD!!!!

xeekx xeekx xeekx

[Catbooster]

Yep. Red turf = regressed, not progressed ;)



And if you weren't sure, check the year after the turf went in (6-5). A good year right after the turf, but the team went blind and couldn't play well the following year.

[SD4ever]

Oh you will be moving USD into the 'Great Move' category pretty soon! Too bad they and UND just should have gone with the States.

[SD4ever]

Oh you will be moving USD into the 'Great Move' category pretty soon! Too bad they and UND just should have gone with the States.

This was for my old d2football.com friend Mr. Laker!

[Thumper 76]

Oh you will be moving USD into the 'Great Move' category pretty soon! Too bad they and UND just should have gone with the States.

xlolx hope springs eternal in Vermintown ;)


In all honesty I'll reserve my real judgement for a couple of years. If it doesn't happen by then, I don't see it happening for a looooooooong time.

[Little Stevie]

From when 1-AA first started and how they started-URI would be top 10 in regressing.

[ewueagle2010]

Yep. Red turf = regressed, not progressed ;)



And if you weren't sure, check the year after the turf went in (6-5). A good year right after the turf, but the team went blind and couldn't play well the following year.

They're 33-8 at home since 2010, including scoring 130 points against your Cats in just 3 games.

I'm not going to sit here and claim the stadium is anything more than a glorified high school facilty. Probably not even glorified... but the attendance at games has averaged way over 100% capacity for 4 straight seasons and the atmosphere is head and shoulders better than 8-10 years ago.

[Grizalltheway]

Oh you will be moving USD into the 'Great Move' category pretty soon! Too bad they and UND just should have gone with the States.

In a perfect world the Big Sky would have ended up with the xDSUs and left the UxDs for the Valley. Thanks Foolerton.

[dewey]

In a perfect world the Big Sky would have ended up with the xDSUs and left the UxDs for the Valley. Thanks Foolerton.

As a NDSU fan getting left out of the Big Sky and invited to the Valley was the best thing that could have happened to NDSU. Nothing against the Big Sky just the MVFC games are closer and easier to get to. Plus it helped NDSU win National Championships by being in a tough defensive minded, strong lines and running game conference.

I would still rather have the UXD'S in the Valley.

Dewey

[Laker]

This was for my old d2football.com friend Mr. Laker!

I was at the USD-FGCU NIT women's title game- the last one in the Dome. Didn't see you there but the place was pretty full. Crowd helped make the difference in that one.

Looks like the new venue will be pretty nice.