2016-2017 Men's Basketball Thread

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Bucknell and WVU entering crunch time. The Bison are still hanging tough but can't get over the hump....

[Thumper 76]

SDSU down 15. Gonzaga's poor shooting in the first half made this game closer than it really was....

To be fair SDSU didn't shoot well either, even if you factor in the defense the Zags can play.


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[FargoBison]

Kind of a shame that SDSU is so lacking in talent outside of Daum, if they can put a few more players around him like Wolters had back in the day they could do something special. They have two more years since I think we can safely put this whole going to the NBA early idea to rest after today.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

WVU holds on to win 86-80.

MTSU is giving the Gophers big time problems. Northwestern is looking good so far..

[POD Knows]

To be fair SDSU didn't shoot well either, even if you factor in the defense the Zags can play.


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SDSU sucks, you got in there because of the home floor BS in SF, good, you got your ass kicked, nice effort. Please notice that I don't GAF how our conference mates perform, screw you SDSU

[BisonTru]

ETSU fell apart in the second half. Now over. I don't think we have an upset yet, but MTSU's up by 15 on the Goofers. xdrunkyx

[FargoBison]

SDSU sucks, you got in there because of the home floor BS in SF, good, you got your ass kicked, nice effort. Please notice that I don't GAF how our conference mates perform, screw you SDSU

I dislike SDSU as much as anyone but they got where they are because they thd have best player in the league but you need a bit more if you are going to go up against something like Gonzaga.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

ETSU fell apart in the second half. Now over. I don't think we have an upset yet, but MTSU's up by 15 on the Goofers. xdrunkyx

The Gophers are getting clowned right now...

[FargoBison]

Not sure I can even call MTSU winning an upset, didn't Vegas have MN as the underdog?

Do people on the committee even watch these teams play? Glad MTSU is making them look like the fools that they are. Not a 12 seed.

[POD Knows]

I dislike SDSU as much as anyone but they got where they are because they thd have best player in the league but you need a bit more if you are going to go up against something like Gonzaga.

Yea, they got there because they played decent ball at the end year, got home court advantage, which they didn't earn, and won three games in a row in a tourney and then got their ass handed to them in the NCAA. Priceless.

**** you SDSU and the horse you rode in on.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Whelp, Minnesota has awoken! As have their fans in Milwaukee!!

[FargoBison]

MTSU can't sit Potts much longer.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The officiating in this game has been rather poor. First game of the day where it's been subpar....

[FargoBison]

MTSU-Butler should be interesting.

There goes Pitino...was only a matter of time.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

MTSU-Butler should be interesting.

There goes Pitino...was only a matter of time.

Horrible timing by the little guy....

To be fair there were some questionable calls that went against Minnesota. It all started when the Gopher player got pushed into the bottom of the basket support on the drive.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

MTSU win 81-72! They were the better team from the start.

Minnesota hoop once again comes up small....

[POD Knows]

MTSU win 81-72! They were the better team from the start.

Minnesota hoop once again comes up small....

Yes, hate the Gophers, they are worthless and weak.

[dewey]

Good game between Vanderbilt and Northwestern. What a colossal mistake by the Vanderbilt player fouling with 14 seconds left in the open court, deliberate, and the lead.

He clearly thought they were down. Then a bad shot by Vanderbilt as the clock was running down. The guard should have drove to the basket.

Dewey

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Vanderbilt player commits a foul on an 86% FT shooter with them up 1. Northwestern kid hits both foul shots and they hold on for the win...

[bonarae]

The 'rest of us' update:
Furman beats Upstate 79-57
Albany says goodbye to the season by losing to St. Peter's 59-55
Stony Brook down big on UIC (8:30 left)
UTM leading Asheville 60-55 (9 minutes left)
Lamar down on Texas State (3:21 left in 1st half)

[FargoBison]

Pretty uneventful big dance so far.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

- Xavier takes down Maryland. The Muskies dominated the second half...
- St. Mary's survives against VCU
- 'Nova has a very Gonzaga'esque performance against The Mount.
- Purdue fends off a feisty Vermont team....

[bonarae]

Stony Brook's rally comes up short against UIC, 71-69
UTM advances past Asheville, 89-75

Yet to play:
UND
Weber State

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Pretty uneventful big dance so far.

It always seems like one day has chalk and the other has chaos. A lot of close games today but nothing crazy outside of the Vandy foul. Princeton really had a great chance at a buzzer beater yet settled on a long 3. Vandy did that and committed a terrible foul....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The Bison fans should be getting ready to sit back, relax and watch Arizona pound UND.

[BisonTru]

The Bison fans should be getting ready to sit back, relax and watch Arizona pound UND.

xdrunkyx Go Cats.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

FGCU and FSU seems like a game that will go down to the wire. Both teams running and gunning, really fun to watch...

[FargoBison]

UND hanging tough early but Zona is dominating in the paint.

[FargoBison]

UND calls themselves the flagship, yet they can't even bring their real band to the big dance. Sad!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UND hanging tough early but Zona is dominating in the paint.

It feels like UND is on the precipice of getting run out of the building.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Lamar bows out to Texas State 70-60
Weber State leads Fullerton at halftime, 35-33.

[FargoBison]

It feels like UND is on the precipice of getting run out of the building.

Yeah, Zona can do whatever they want. Hard to win or keep it tight with no defense.

[dewey]

FGCU and FSU seems like a game that will go down to the wire. Both teams running and gunning, really fun to watch...

Dang FSU has some big, tall, athletic big guys. Good game and Luke you said fun to watch.

Dewey

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

'Zona up 53-37 at the half. I give credit to UND for running up and down the court and sticking to their style but they are seriously outgunned.

[dewey]

Boy can FSU and FGCU get up and down the court quickly.

Dewey

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

FGCU running out of gas. That was a crucial injury earlier...

[dewey]

Bucky badger beats Virginia Tech 84-74. Villanova up next for Wisconsin.

Dewey

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

FGCU had numerous chances to really make FSU sweat but couldn't do it.

Wisconsin holds on to beat Va Tech in a game that was close the entire way. Badgers-'Nova is going to be a great battle...

Weird day, a lot of competitive games but no OT's or "classic" finishes.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UND is battling like hell against Arizona, only down 7 at the under 12 TO

[dewey]

Iowa State leads Nevada in a #5/#12 matchup 80-71 36.5 seconds to go.

Dewey

[dewey]

Iowa State wins 84-73 over Nevada. #5 Iowa State plays #4 Purdue on Saturday.

Dewey

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Arizona back up by 15. UND has played hard but are seriously outmanned. I have no idea how they cut it to 7....

Going to be a rough day for FCS'ers with a 2-5 record. Villanova and Butler comfortably win. I'm surprised one of Bucknell, Princeton or ETSU didn't spring the upset. Princeton had a great chance but took a bad shot. Bucknell just couldn't get over the hump and ETSU fell apart in the second half....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Iowa State wins 84-73 over Nevada. #5 Iowa State plays #4 Purdue on Saturday.

Dewey

The Cyclones are Final 4 good imo. Clenz might not want to hear that. They seem headed for a showdown with Kansas. This is their best team since 2000 with Fizer.

[dewey]

Arizona leads GFCC 78-61 with 750 to go.

Come on Cats!

Dewey

[FargoBison]

Stay classy UND...

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7671&d=1489723496

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Dayton, Rhode Island, Texas Southern, Jacksonville State are the FCS'ers going to tomorrow. URI would appear to have the best chance to win. Dayton is really well coached and always has athletes. They'll give Wichita State a good run but I'm not sue if they can win.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Arizona wins 100-82. If you gave me Arizona -29.5 before the game I probably would have taken the Wildcats. I was really impressed with how hard UND played despite being completely outclassed. They'll be a good addition to the Summit. I can see that conference getting 2 bids from time to time....

[grizband]

How are everyone's brackets holding up?

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[Hambone]

How are everyone's brackets holding up?

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Only one I've gotten wrong so far is picking ETSU over Florida. So I'm doing decent thus far.

[BisonTru]

How are everyone's brackets holding up?

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2 wrong in one (UNC-W, Vandy)

4 in the other

U?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

How are everyone's brackets holding up?

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Two wrong, ETSU and VCU, but still have all my Sweet 16 teams.

[BisonTru]

Stay classy UND...

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7671&d=1489723496

https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/842592294872272897

[grizband]

Picked all 16 correct today, but will probably miss a few tomorrow. Picked more upsets

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[BisonTru]

Picked all 16 correct today, but will probably miss a few tomorrow. Picked more upsets

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Nice job! In the one I have two wrong it still puts me in the top 10% of the nation.

[grizband]

Nice job! In the one I have two wrong it still puts me in the top 10% of the nation.
Thanks, first time I've ever picked day one completely correct.

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[bonarae]

Weber State advances with a road win over Fullerton 80-76.

On to tomorrow...

[POD Knows]

Arizona wins 100-82. If you gave me Arizona -29.5 before the game I probably would have taken the Wildcats. I was really impressed with how hard UND played despite being completely outclassed. They'll be a good addition to the Summit. I can see that conference getting 2 bids from time to time....

I thought UND played pretty well, just not enough ponies. UND's guard play was great, they lose Baldwin and Hooker next year but they should still be pretty decent.

[BEAR]

I got two wrong. Not bad. 3 out of 4 in my group are tied with me. One guy has 6 wrong already. Yikes. Guess who's buying lunch already. xlolx The old "upset" technique didn't work today.

[Thumper 76]

SDSU sucks, you got in there because of the home floor BS in SF, good, you got your ass kicked, nice effort. Please notice that I don't GAF how our conference mates perform, screw you SDSU


Yea, they got there because they played decent ball at the end year, got home court advantage, which they didn't earn, and won three games in a row in a tourney and then got their ass handed to them in the NCAA. Priceless.

**** you SDSU and the horse you rode in on.

You should take your home court crying bs over with the USeD fans, you'll fit right in there. Too bad Fargo didn't even bother to bid on the ****ing thing and last year the tourney in SF drew more fans to watch the women's tourney than ever attended a SLT in any other location, men's and women's combined. We weren't awarded ****, Sioux Falls bid to have it and SDSU fans turned it into something special at the mid major level, you NDSU and USeD fans can all go cry in your ****ing beers over it. USeD fans are literally exactly as close and NDSU fans have proven they are capable of driving much farther than four hours to make somewhere their home court, so both groups can go **** themselves with their bitchy little crybaby tears.

Also, SDSU has more wins in the dance and trips to the dance by over double when looking at the overall basketball programs. It isn't close. SDSU 11, NDSU 3, USeD 1.


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[TheRevSFA]

I missed four yesterday..

I really though Bucknell could beat WVU..man I wanted that upset to happen

[POD Knows]

You should take your home court crying bs over with the USeD fans, you'll fit right in there. Too bad Fargo didn't even bother to bid on the ****ing thing and last year the tourney in SF drew more fans to watch the women's tourney than ever attended a SLT in any other location, men's and women's combined. We weren't awarded ****, Sioux Falls bid to have it and SDSU fans turned it into something special at the mid major level, you NDSU and USeD fans can all go cry in your ****ing beers over it. USeD fans are literally exactly as close and NDSU fans have proven they are capable of driving much farther than four hours to make somewhere their home court, so both groups can go **** themselves with their bitchy little crybaby tears.

Also, SDSU has more wins in the dance and trips to the dance by over double when looking at the overall basketball programs. It isn't close. SDSU 11, NDSU 3, USeD 1.


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Ouch, WTF would USD be crying about, it is a home game for them too. I am the only guy with faux tears, I couldn't care less, NDSU could drop basketball and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, I am just breaking your balls, I am not a big fan of conference tourneys anyway. If you have them, take the top 4 teams and get on with it. Sioux Falls is actually a good location given the geography but it is a de facto home game for both SD schools and home games should be earned.

I would agree that it is a good event and draws good crowds in SF but it doesn't change my opinion on the situation.

[Thumper 76]

Ouch, WTF would USD be crying about, it is a home game for them too. I am the only guy with faux tears, I couldn't care less, NDSU could drop basketball and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, I am just breaking your balls, I am not a big fan of conference tourneys anyway. If you have them, take the top 4 teams and get on with it. Sioux Falls is actually a good location given the geography but it is a de facto home game for both SD schools and home games should be earned.

I would agree that it is a good event and draws good crowds in SF but it doesn't change my opinion on the situation.

Oh it gives the SD schools an advantage. On the same token pretty much anywhere inside the conference footprint would give someone an advantage, and moving outside to somewhere that would be a "true" neutral court is going to have approximately 100 people show up.

Oh and yes USeD fans have been crying about it. It's impressive. They cried a lot about it.


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[BisonTru]

Having it in Sioux Falls is best for all the Dakota schools. NDSU fans (myself included) don't follow basketball like football.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Sioux Falls seems like a reasonable location for the Summit tournament. Although, I do think it should also be held in an eastern location that's more favorable to the Indiana schools.

While it might be a bit of a hike mileage wise, I wouldn't have an issue traveling from Fargo/GF or Omaha to the tournament if my team was in the semifinals or finals. It's still an easy drive so long as the weather is fair.

[JSUSoutherner]

​GO COCKS!

[citdog]

​GO COCKS!

Carolina doesn't play until later...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Jacksonville State is hanging tough.

In general, the games today have been pretty blah. Very uneventful tourney so far...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

SMU is leading Southern Cal 38-30 at the half. The AAC needs this one.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Louisville takes care of Jacksonville State 78-63

URI is currently leading Creighton early...

[CockyGeek]

We did a good job of keeping it respectable. The Gamecocks have come a long way in a short time under Harper

[JSUSoutherner]

We did a good job of keeping it respectable. The Gamecocks have come a long way in a short time under Harper
Yes they have. A few less mistakes and that game could have been a lot closer. Perhaps our loss will serve a purpose and Harper won't get poached.

[FargoBison]

SMU maybe should have called a timeout on either of their last positions.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

SMU maybe should have called a timeout on either of their last positions.

They really botched the final minute of the game. Second time in 3 years they lost to a middling PAC 12 team when some people thought they were a sleeper Final 4 team.

The AAC continues to live up to its middling reputation...

[FargoBison]

URI is going to win, have them in the sweet 16 so I hope they can keep it going. Only sweet 16 team to lose so far is SMU.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Rhode Island about to take out Creighton! Rams controlled this game from the start. Good win for URI and the A10....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

URI is going to win, have them in the sweet 16 so I hope they can keep it going. Only sweet 16 team to lose so far is SMU.

URI with one of the most impressive performances of the 1st round. Creighton never really threatened in this game....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Texas Southern took it on the chin against UNC 103-64. UC David is not fairing much better against #1 Kansas at the half

Dayton looks really good against Wichita State. This could be the great game we're all waiting for....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Shockers out last Dayton in a really competitive game!

Cincinnati dominated Kansas State from the start en route to a 75-61 win. This was much needed for the AAC...

[FargoBison]

Down goes Nova, not shocked though Wisconsin was better than a 8 seed. Worst job I've ever seen of seeding the field from this committee, bunch of hacks.

[Laker]

Down goes Nova, not shocked though Wisconsin was better than a 8 seed. Worst job I've ever seen of seeding the field from this committee, bunch of hacks.

You usually don't expect a match up like this in the second round. Badgers beat the Gophers twic and lost in the Big Ten championship game to Michigan who still hasn't slowed down. I knew that they were under seeded.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Down goes Nova, not shocked though Wisconsin was better than a 8 seed. Worst job I've ever seen of seeding the field from this committee, bunch of hacks.

Wisconsin was underseeded no doubt. But they won this game because they could attack and defend the paint. They got into foul trouble but had enough big bodies to survive. Without Ochefu this 'Nova team was fatally flawed despite bring really good.

[Cocky]

Nova appeared to be overseated too.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Gonzaga benefits from a terrible missed goaltending and an irate Collins to survive Northwestern. It was a brutal call but Collins can't go insane-o and run on the court...

Butler looks good against MTSU...

[Cocky]

Gonzaga is the daring of the officials this first weekend.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Is the officiating worse than in the conferences? xchinscratchx

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Meanwhile...

Is the officiating worse than in the conferences? xchinscratchx

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St. Mary's just got jobbed against Arizona. Called a foul on the Gaels player who was shoved in the back and sent into the cameramen.....WTF??

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

A bit surprised Underwood bolted Oklahoma State after one year for Illinois. Seems like a lateral move to me. Both programs have a high ceiling but there's hurdles to greatness.

If nothing else I'd rather live in Champaign-Urbana....

[dewey]

What game between Purdue and Iowa State! Purdue was blowing out ISU by about 20 in the 2nd half but ISU has stormed back.

Purdue 78
Iowa State 75

53.7 seconds to go.

Boy Swanigan is a heck of a player!

Dewey

[dewey]

St. Mary's just got jobbed against Arizona. Called a foul on the Gaels player who was shoved in the back and sent into the cameramen.....WTF??

That was a bad missed call. That Markanen (sp?) From Arizona is a STUD!

Dewey

[dewey]

What a block by Burton from Iowa State flying from nowhere to block Swanigan at the rim.

Purdue 78
Iowa State 76

13.3 seconds to go.

Dewey

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Purdue wins! I thought that was destined to be our first OT game! The Cyclones made one helluva comeback to make it a nailbiter down the stretch. Swanigan had a huge rebound on the missed FT.

ISU fans travel really well! I'm surprised the Cyclones have not made the Final 4 in 73 years. Only one 1 Elite 8, 2000, in that time. They've had some really good teams over the years but have been somewhat a tournament underachiever.

[Laker]

Purdue wins over Iowa State. Swanigan should have a movie made about his life.

[Laker]

Michigan tops L'vull 73-69. Wagner composes another symphony for the Wolverines- Deutschland uber Cardinals.

[citdog]

BEAUTIFUL scene outside of the Greenville portion of the tourney.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7TKBoCUwAApHsr.jpg

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

URI is playing lights out against Oregon so far...

[JSUSoutherner]

BEAUTIFUL scene outside of the Greenville portion of the tourney.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7TKBoCUwAApHsr.jpg
You're right, that Furman sign looks pretty nice. :D

[FargoBison]

Officiating in that URI game was disgusting.

[Laker]

Baylor tops USC.

Those highlighter uniforms are pretty distracting.

[Laker]

South Carolina beats Duke 88-81.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7VIGXYV4AAn2UH.jpg

[dewey]

Everyone had South Carolina beating Duke...right? Ah crap I didn't. Congratulations to South Carolina on going to their first ever sweet 16.

Dewey

[dewey]

You're right, that Furman sign looks pretty nice. :D

Well played sir...well played!

Dewey

[dewey]

Boy Lonzo Ball from UCLA is really good. Good shooter, pinpoint passer. Legit good.

Dewey

[FargoBison]

The east region has destroyed many a bracket this year.

[bonarae]

Richmond advances to the NIT quarterfinals with a 87-83 win over the Golden Grizzlies.

Illinois State plays UCF tomorrow. UT Martin at Campbell and Weber State at Corpus Christi in the CIT tomorrow.

Remaining FCS in the postseason:

NCAA - 1
NIT - 2
CIT - 3

You can count all remaining FCS-playing schools on your two hands. Sigh.

[Grizalltheway]

Still have 3 of my final four and 6 of my elite 8. Fingers crossed.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UCF beats Illinois State in the NIT. The refs pretty much decided this one. AAC basketball still lives....

[bonarae]

Campbell may very well be the only FCS left in the CIT after today.

[JSUSoutherner]

Boy Lonzo Ball from UCLA is really good. Good shooter, pinpoint passer. Legit good.

Dewey
According to his dad he's better than Steph. xlolx

[OSBF]

UCF beats Illinois State in the NIT. The refs pretty much decided this one. AAC basketball still lives....

That was the absolute stupidest 14 seconds of basketball I've ever seen at the end of that game

[clenz]

That was the absolute stupidest 14 seconds of basketball I've ever seen at the end of that game
I didn't see it, but saw it happen through twitter.

The swings I saw from people I follow were interesting.

This is just from the last 20 seconds of the game

https://twitter.com/cdl1018/status/843990789541838850

The number of tweets leading up to, and after it, were very interesting to read.

[OSBF]

I think they had every intention of fouling us with 10-12 sec to get ball back with time for an organized last shot, but it wasn't called till 4 to go

hit both, should be game over

then a silly foul by ILS/ticky-tack call/phantom call whatever

I don't like to see the refs insert themselves into the game like that at that stage, but neither team gave them much choice in the matter

was it a foul by ILS? Probably. Should the ref have swallowed the whistle at that point? Probably true as well.

[Laker]

According to his dad he's better than Steph. xlolx

According to his dad, who claims that he could beat Michael Jordan in one-on-one. :D

[Bisonator]

According to his dad, who claims that he could beat Michael Jordan in one-on-one. :D
Well since MJ is 54 he probably could.xlolx

[clenz]

I think they had every intention of fouling us with 10-12 sec to get ball back with time for an organized last shot, but it wasn't called till 4 to go

hit both, should be game over

then a silly foul by ILS/ticky-tack call/phantom call whatever

I don't like to see the refs insert themselves into the game like that at that stage, but neither team gave them much choice in the matter

was it a foul by ILS? Probably. Should the ref have swallowed the whistle at that point? Probably true as well.
From what I read on Twitter it was a foul. I hate fouls called in that situation too, but I'm a big believer in if you'd call it with 17 minutes left in the game you call it with 4 seconds left in the game. It creates bad situations that will cause fans to bitch, but it is what it is.

[JSUSoutherner]

That was the absolute stupidest 14 seconds of basketball I've ever seen at the end of that game
Idk, the end of the UNI game last year was pretty pathetic.

[clenz]

Never underestimate what an injury to your main in-bounder can do.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Richmond says goodbye. Campbell is the only true FCS team left in the CIT, and of course, there's Butler, playing the Tarholes on Friday in the Sweet 16.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UCF beat Illinois to advance to the NIT Final 4 at MSG. AAC Power!! :D

[OSBF]

Back to the scheduling theme for just a second

Illannoy hires new coach

In hiring presser specifically asked about scheduling other in-state DI's

Says we'll play anybody anwhere, anytime

yeah right..................

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

JT3 fired at Georgetown!

I wish Temple had the cuts to get rid of Dunphy!

[TheRevSFA]

Back to the scheduling theme for just a second

Illannoy hires new coach

In hiring presser specifically asked about scheduling other in-state DI's

Says we'll play anybody anwhere, anytime

yeah right..................

I hope Illinois enjoys Underwood

[clenz]

I hope Illinois enjoys Underwood
He seems like a swell fella....eye roll

He was on the job at OSU for 362 days....




http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/everyone-got-a-little-muddy-when-brad-underwood-bolted-to-illini/

Here’s what one Oklahoma State fan told the Oklahoman newspaper after Underwood left unexpectedly for Illinois this week:

“It kind of feels like you got duped by a used-car salesman as you hear the things in his Illinois news conference sound just like the things he said a year ago. You start to think it’s just all words.”

Wait, what? A used-car salesman? The guy who was greeted in Champaign on Monday as if he were a cross between John Wooden and Abe Lincoln? How can this be?
Illinois offered Underwood a six-year contract averaging $3 million a year, and Oklahoma State reportedly offered $2.2 million a year. So he left. He wanted more money, and his employer didn’t want to go higher. OK, understandable. There might have been friction with the athletic director. Again, fine. But Underwood is the same guy who swore he loved Oklahoma State to death, wanted to build a winner there and all but hoped to die a Cowboy
.
How much for that 2002 Buick Regal?

Underwood called Illinois a “dream job’’ at his introductory news conference in Champaign on Monday, a statement that, wait a second, sounds very familiar.
“A dream come true,’’ Underwood said of the Oklahoma State job at his introductory news conference in Stillwater, Okla., a year ago.

...


It’s hard to begrudge someone for wanting to make more money. But when that person has told everyone of his deep love for a school and then bolts like Usain Bolt, it’s very easy to begrudge him. You’d also like to bludgeon him.

I’m sure Underwood sold his vision of Oklahoma State to talented high school basketball players around the country. It probably looked a lot like heaven. I’m also sure that Underwood has called some of former Illini coach John Groce’s recruits to guarantee them he’ll be in Champaign for a long time. Because, you know, it’s heaven.

Can't wait for him to bolt from Illinois in 2 or 3 years. It's what he does.




2003–2006
Daytona Beach CC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytona_Beach_Community_College)


2006–2012
Kansas State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_State_Wildcats_men%27s_basketball) (asst.)


2012–2013
South Carolina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Gamecocks_men%27s_basketball) (asst.)


2013–2016
Stephen F. Austin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_F._Austin_Lumberjacks_basketball)


2016–2017
Oklahoma State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_State_Cowboys_basketball)


2017–present
Illinois (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball)

[citdog]

JT3 OUT at Georgetown

[clenz]

Holy ****.

I would never trust a word out of his ****ing mouth

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/osusportsextra/video-comparing-brad-underwood-s-introductory-news-conferences-at-osu/article_561cffd0-aba2-5316-91fb-7383479dde5a.html

[OSBF]

Holy ****.

I would never trust a word out of his ****ing mouth

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/osusportsextra/video-comparing-brad-underwood-s-introductory-news-conferences-at-osu/article_561cffd0-aba2-5316-91fb-7383479dde5a.html

I'm sure OSU is butthurt over this

BUT

League average is 2.2M/yr and he was makin' 1

Money talks, and he walked

[clenz]

I'm sure OSU is butthurt over this

BUT

League average is 2.2M/yr and he was makin' 1

Money talks, and he walked
He's going to need the money, he owes OSU at least 3m for leaving when he did.

I'm not an OSU fan. I'm not an Illinois fan. I'm someone that sees that as a scummy bull**** move. While I "get it", he just showed his true character. Then again, I suppose when you're leaping from job to job as quick as he is it's tough to get all new press conference material so there's bound to *some* repeating.

[dbackjon]

He seems like a swell fella....eye roll

He was on the job at OSU for 362 days....




Can't wait for him to bolt from Illinois in 2 or 3 years. It's what he does.




2003–2006
Daytona Beach CC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytona_Beach_Community_College)


2006–2012
Kansas State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_State_Wildcats_men%27s_basketball) (asst.)


2012–2013
South Carolina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Gamecocks_men%27s_basketball) (asst.)


2013–2016
Stephen F. Austin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_F._Austin_Lumberjacks_basketball)


2016–2017
Oklahoma State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_State_Cowboys_basketball)


2017–present
Illinois (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball)




He finally has a real job.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Butler plays UNC tonight.

Go Bulldogs!

[dewey]

Dang good ending to the Gonzaga and West Virginia. Kansas and Purdue is good so far in the 1st half.

Dewey

[dewey]

Wow did Kansas open up a GIANT can of whoop a** on Purdue in the 2nd half.

It was a 2 point game early in the 2nd half before Kansas opened it up.

Dewey

[TheRevSFA]

He's going to need the money, he owes OSU at least 3m for leaving when he did.

I'm not an OSU fan. I'm not an Illinois fan. I'm someone that sees that as a scummy bull**** move. While I "get it", he just showed his true character. Then again, I suppose when you're leaping from job to job as quick as he is it's tough to get all new press conference material so there's bound to *some* repeating.

Would you stay at a job where the administration didn't support you and what you were trying to build?

[dewey]

Another good game is going on between Arizona and Xavier. 9 lead changes so far.

Dewey

[dewey]

Wow! What a game between Xavier and Arizona. Arizona lead by 8 with 354 to go. Arizona continually kept chucking up long threes when they had a size advantage down low and Arizona was beating them up.

Dewey

[bonarae]

My bracket's busted. xbawlingx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Gonzaga or Xavier will finally break through to the Final 4!! Both of these programs have been REALLY GOOD the last 15-20 years.

[OSBF]

He finally has a real job.

meh
OSU to illannoy=lateral move

he just wanted the money
that's all this guy is about
as soon as the next offer rolls around he'll be gone
give illannoy fans another guy to whine about like they still whine about Bill Self

[clenz]

Would you stay at a job where the administration didn't support you and what you were trying to build?
He wasn't even there a year. Seriously, not even 365 days. Not only that, I doubt his first contact with Illinois came the day before he was hired. There was no way to say that the administration didn't support what he was trying to do. He had barely settled into his ****ing office. Chances are he hadn't even met the entire athletic staff yet.

Having an understanding of how the college hiring process works - he probably had back channel contact with Illinois start in Feb, at the latest. Groce was fired March 11th. It's always been said, and is true, you don't fire someone unless you already have plans A-C mostly worked out. That means Illinois was back channeling contacts starting in Jan, if not December. A quick google search shows the "FIRE JOHN GROCE" machine really hit full stride in mid-Jan. That means his seat was borderline hot to begin the season.

I've heard/read from well respected people in the coaching search world that they firmly believe Underwood (or at the very least his camp) had first contact before Valentines day.

You'll defend him to your death on this, because he was yours. Hows that old saying go? "Yeah, he's an asshole, but he's our asshole". That seems to firmly apply to you right here.

I have similar experience at UNI. Greg McDermott - I'm sure you know who that is - played basketball at UNI. Was pretty good...actually in the UNI basketball HOF for his time as a player. He took over at UNI in 2001 and when he was hired at UNI said getting the chance to lead his alma mater was a dream come true. The program was garbage. It played in the UNIDome and drew about 300 people. That's not an exaggeration, there are people who were going to games in the 90s who said they counted the people at the games because there was so few. Anyway, Greg (along with Coach Jake who was his lead assistant and recruiter) turned UNI from a 7-24 team the year before he took over to a 21-10 NCAA tournament team in his third year. His 4th year was 21-11 and an NCAA tournament. His 5th year (05-06) was 23-10 and had the team ranked in the AP Top 25 for three weeks. That year ended in the NCAA Tournament (3rd straight year) with a 5 point loss to top 25 Georgetown. After that game he didn't get on the plane to fly back to Cedar Falls with the team. He got on another plane and flew to Indianapolis. Why? To inform Iowa State that he was going to accept their job offer. Five days later the hiring was made official - March 22nd, 2006. Why did it take 5 days to make it official? Well, he told Iowa State that he'd accept there offer, but he also was going to interview with Kansas State on March 19th, so he needed to hold off on making it official. Oh, Iowa State also hadn't fired Wayne Morgan yet when they had interviewed and "hired" McDermott. See, there was 5 days between that meeting in Indianapolis and making it official. Morgan was fired just 3 days before McDermott was hired.

It all worked out for UNI. While McDermott did say he wouldn't try to take any UNI recruits he had signed, he tried to steal every single one. It's why a redshirt wasn't used on one of them. He needed it, badly, but McDermott told him he'd play from day 1 at Iowa State so he demanded he play from day 1 at UNI. The players he tried to poach? Jordan Eglseder, Adam Koch and Kwadzo Ahelghbe. Go look at our S16 team and see what kind of role those 3 played. Oh, also notice how after Adam we also had Jake and now Bennett Koch? UNI didn't even do a search. They instantly promoted Ben Jacobson to head coach to keep recruits and keep the trajectory going.

McDermott and Underwood are the exact same snake. Difference is, McDermott found enough ways to **** his old schools over enough (especially UNI) as the years went on that we started to see him for the snake he really is.

[Laker]

I spent most of my time watching the D2 men's semis last night (I was at the quarterfinals in Sioux Falls on Wednesday) but would check in on the D1 games and saw the endings. The same announcers who told us that Oregon had fouls to give in the last seconds were critical of Michigan taking a wide open three by the guy who was keeping them in the game. The Zags played tough defense down the stretch to top West Virginia. Purdue started out hot but couldn't keep up with Kansas. And the X men hung in and came back to beat Arizona when I thought that they were dead in the water.

Always some surprises. I hope that we have more of the same tonight.

[dewey]

Another great night of games tonight. The ending to Wisconsin and Florida was unbelievable.

I am really looking forward to the North Carolina and Kentucky game.

Dewey

[citdog]

http://southcarolinaflag.facts.co/southcarolinastateflagof/SouthCarolinaFlagPicture2.png

[Laker]

I thought Wisconsin was going to pull it out in OT but then Canyon Barry blocked that breakaway layup that would have put the Badgers up by four. Unbelievable shot by Florida at the buzzer for the win.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Northwest Missouri State won the D2 national title over Fairmont State today. I guess it was only a matter of time before the Bears were a bball power...

[dewey]

Pretty good year for Northwest Missouri state winning the football and basketball championships.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

Rock, Chalk, Fack, KU goes down.

[Laker]

Northwest Missouri State won the D2 national title over Fairmont State today. I guess it was only a matter of time before the Bears were a bball power...

Bearcats win titles in both football and basketball in the same year for the first time in D2 history. Justin Pitts, their point guard, was the player of the year. But they had other pieces to the pie- really a fun team to watch.

[Laker]

Rock, Chalk, Fack, KU goes down.

Oregon got that big lead, then Kansas seemed to panic. Still had plenty of chances to get their home crowd into the game, but Bell kept blocking shots and pulling in boards.

Zags looked pretty good in the other game.

[citdog]

http://olivierblanchard.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/SC-flag.jpg

[GodHelpTheBears]

Gonzaga, Oregon, and South Carolina.

Wow.

Too bad either UNC or Kentucky will be the fourth. I feel like a UNC-USC national championship game could start an armed conflict. xlolx

[dewey]

What a great game between Kentucky and North Carolina! For Kentucky to have a 5 point lead then UNCLE to storm back and take the lead then the great shot by Kentucky with 6 seconds left. Then the INC big man knocks down the game winner from just inside the 3 point line onumber the left wing with 0.3 seconds left.


Dewey

[Laker]

Furman coach goes to Drake:

http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/drake/drake-bulldogs/2017/03/26/niko-medved-accepts-drake-head-coaching-position-furman-paladins-jeff-rutter/99672486/

[citdog]

Furman coach goes to Drake:

http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/drake/drake-bulldogs/2017/03/26/niko-medved-accepts-drake-head-coaching-position-furman-paladins-jeff-rutter/99672486/

furman sucks

[BEAR]

Great award for an even better person. (His brother is another name you've probably heard about too. xlolx )

CONWAY, Ark. _ University of Central Arkansas Bears guard Jordan Howard added another award to his growing list Thursday, one that incorporates both on-court prowess and classroom work, when he was named the Southland Conference Men's Basketball Student-Athlete of the Year.

http://www.ucasports.com/news/2017/3/30/mens-basketball-howard-named-slc-mbb-student-athlete-of-the-year.aspx

http://www.ucasports.com/images/2017/3/29/rp_primary_HowardStudentAthleteofYear1.jpg

[ngineer]

Lehigh's Tim Kempton was selected for tonight's Senior All-Star game played in Phoenix, scoring 21 points and going 9-11 from the floor.

[citdog]

I have no love for the Carolina Gamecocks but I wouldn't be who I am without providing a historical background on WHY the athletic teams at the REAL USC are called the "Carolina Gamecocks"....

Genl Thomas Sumter Continental Army
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/ThomasSumterByRembrandtPeale.jpg

Genl Sumter's Greatest Victory
http://img.groundspeak.com/waymarking/display/0e206193-8159-412d-af51-24d38b06e9cf.jpg




http://www.ruralswalabama.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Livingston-Sumter-County-Historical-Marker_2-2lc-z800.jpg

Just gonna leave this here!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3m5CPqX6Aw

[Scrappy94]

Chattanooga coach, Matt McCall, leaves for UMass. The common feeling I'm getting from fans is that they are glad we are getting someone new after McCall let this season fall apart after a great start.

[dewey]

Big win for Gonzaga in one national semifinal ends the miracle run by South Carolina. Great run by the Gamecocks!

Dewey

[dewey]

Boy that Meeks from North Carolina goes after rebounds like a man possessed.

Dewey

[Laker]

Boy that Meeks from North Carolina goes after rebounds like a man possessed.

Dewey

NC misses four straight free throws but Oregon can't block out TWICE! I don't remember seeing an ending like that before.

Yes, Meeks was like a tank.

[dewey]

The crazy thing was it was the same guy from Oregon that didn't block put either time.

Dewey

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[Scrappy94]

Chattanooga hires Lamont Paris from Wisconsin to a 6 year deal.

[dewey]

Good game so far between Gonzaga and North Carolina. Zags lead 41 to 40 with 1535 to go in 2nd half.

Dewey

[BEAR]

This looks like amateur ball. Free throws are horrible for both teams.

[dewey]

The officiating has caused the game to be really choppy. Foul trouble for both teams right now.

Dewey

[dewey]

21 fouls so far in the 2nd half. Still 802 to go.

Dewey

[dewey]

Terrible job by the official calling a flagrant 1 on Karnowski. He was going for the ball and inadvertently hits Berry.

The 3 bugs for Gonzaga now have 4 fouls.

Dewey

[dewey]

With 721 to go UNC leads 54 to 52. Gonzaga has gone over 7 minutes without a field goal.

Dewey

[dewey]

209 to go tied at 63.

Dewey

[dewey]

Dang good ending to the game. Gonzaga just couldn't convert on the offensive end.

North Carolina wins late.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

Dang good ending to the game. Gonzaga just couldn't convert on the offensive end.

North Carolina wins late.

Dewey

The last possession by the Zags reminded me a little bit of the last possession by UConn in the women's game. I didn't really understand the penetration and shot attempt when he Zags were down by three. I though they would work the clock down and try and take a three but who knows.

[dewey]

The last possession by the Zags reminded me a little bit of the last possession by UConn in the women's game. I didn't really understand the penetration and shot attempt when he Zags were down by three. I though they would work the clock down and try and take a three but who knows.
The last possesion going for 2 instead of 3 is to extend the game and hope that North Carolina misses free throws. Considering that both teams struggled from the free throw line. To me it makes sense especially since normally the other team is defending the 3 point line and there are times that you can get an easy 2.

I have also seen it the way you mentioned.

Dang good season by Gonzaga though.

Dewey

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[POD Knows]

The last possesion going for 2 instead of 3 is to extend the game and hope that North Carolina misses free throws. Considering that both teams struggled from the free throw line. To me it makes sense especially since normally the other team is defending the 3 point line and there are times that you can get an easy 2.

I have also seen it the way you mentioned.

Dang good season by Gonzaga though.

Dewey

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I would have still went for 3, you got about a 35% to 40% of hitting it, going for 2 50/50 chance and then fouling and hoping they miss and then you have to hit a basket seems like a lot longer odds to me.

[Laker]

What is the deal here?

Jay Elsen‏ @ElsenMidcoSN (https://twitter.com/ElsenMidcoSN) 14m14 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/ElsenMidcoSN/status/850445014148808705)More



It's a done deal at USD. Trey Dickerson has been granted his release. As a graduate transfer, he'll be eligible anywhere next season.

[jacksfan29]

I think he still believes he is a major conference player. He isn't, very fast but no control. USD and Smith will be fine without him. Just having Mooney will make them formidable.


What is the deal here?

Jay Elsen‏ @ElsenMidcoSN (https://twitter.com/ElsenMidcoSN) 14m14 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/ElsenMidcoSN/status/850445014148808705)More



It's a done deal at USD. Trey Dickerson has been granted his release. As a graduate transfer, he'll be eligible anywhere next season.

[Laker]

Oral Roberts fires Sutton.

​http://oruathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2016-17/releases/20170410qtxcn1