Starters or role players with major track experience?

[smallcollegefbfan]

I saw someone mentioned a player at UNI as having track experience. Who all on your team plays a lot or is slated to started this year that has serious track or even basketball experience in college or as a standout in high school?

[BisonFan02]

Quite a few, but it is taken with a grain of salt. NDSU recruits a lot of local "3 season" athletes, and we don't have much specialization up here. The level of competition isn't going to be comparable either as far as times/distances.

[underdawg]

SIU Salukis Freshman WR 6'4" Montray Smith a three Rivals receiver finished 4th in 3A Florida 400 meters with credible 47.89 as a Junior (2015)

Also 2017 Saluki verbal commit Reese Goddard a Quarterback from Kirkwood Mo. is an unusual combo--he is 6'2" 210 has a great arm but also finished second in Missouri Track state meet in both Shot (57'1") and Discus (178' 5")

[Tribe4SF]

Lots for the Tribe who excelled in multiple sports. WR Devonte Dedmon was a sub-11sec 100 meter guy, and was first team all-state in basketball scoring 48 in one game and averaging 30+/game. Senior year he won a regional slam-dunk contest at 5'9". My favorite is rFr. center Nick Wimmer who won N.C. State 285 title in wrestling and was a two-time national runner-up in Greco-Roman. He is competing for starter this year.

[clenz]

I saw someone mentioned a player at UNI as having track experience. Who all on your team plays a lot or is slated to started this year that has serious track or even basketball experience in college or as a standout in high school?
UNI has a long history of WR/DB being conference champion sprinters/hurdlers. A couple of the WR a few years back were on a 4x1 team that qualified for nationals.

The one I mentioned was Daurice Fountain

HS:
Wisconsin Male Athlete of the year 2014
First team All State, All Region and All Conference teams as JR and SR, Conference POY as JR. Owns longest kick return in WI HS FB history.
All Region defensive back and return specialist
1st team all state in track.
Wisconsin state record holder in the 110 high hurdles, school record holder in long jump, state champion in 110 high and long jump
Won 12 meet titles in the 110 high (came close to sub 14 in HS), 5 meet titles in the 300m hurdles with 3 second place finishes (ran 38 seconds), 5 meet long jump titles (4 2nd place and was pushing 24 feet) as a senior for outdoor meets
Indoor meets he won every 55M hurdle event he was in (ran sub 7.5), won every long jump entered as a senior
Repeat results as a JR for track.

College track:
Soph year: Drake qualified in the 110 shuttle hurdle, 4th in MVC 110 high, top 20 finish at Drake Relays in 110H, won 4 indoor 60m sprint titles and finished top 5 in 6 other meets

Football
Lead team in catches, yards and TD as a true sophomore. 14.7 yards per catch. Started 13 games

[Bisonoline]

SIU Salukis Freshman WR 6'4" Montray Smith a three Rivals receiver finished 4th in 3A Florida 400 meters with credible 47.89 as a Junior (2015)

Also 2017 Saluki verbal commit Reese Goddard a Quarterback from Kirkwood Mo. is an unusual combo--he is 6'2" 210 has a great arm but also finished second in Missouri Track state meet in both Shot (57'1") and Discus (178' 5")

Yes that is a strange combo. But those are pretty good numbers for kid his size.

[SFA 93]

Bold (Starters or saw lots of playing time)

S:#3 Germod Williams 5-9; 178 (Sr.)
S:#28 Marlon Walls 5-10; 196 (Jr.)
S:#37 Ahmad Muhammad 6-0; 196 (Jr.)
S:#12 Lawrence Ghansah 6-0; 195 (So.)
S:#33 Alize Ward 5-10; 203 (R/Fr.)
S:#39 Trey Ramos 6-0; 175 (Fr.)
CB:#24 Alex Gregory 6-1; 180 (Fr.)
CB:#31 Zach Hall 5-11; 175 (Fr.)
DE:#13 John Franklin 6-4; 278 (Jr.)
DE:#57 Gary Sampson 6-3; 240 (R/Fr.)
DT:#62 Braxton Kelly 6-1; 290 (So.)
DT:#55 Paul Hill 6-1; 284 (R/Fr.)

QB:#9 Paten Snell (Fr.)
RB:#7 Loren Easly 5-11; 205 (So.)
RB:#29 Josh McGowen (Fr.)
TE:#87 Nick Jones (Jr.)
WR:#88 Aaron Piper 5-9; 186 (Jr.)
WR:#19 Robert Sylvester 6-0; 193 (Jr.)
WR:#81 Jonathan Sam 6-2; 205 (R/Fr.)
WR#22 Thomas Nolley 6-3; 190 (Fr.)
WR:#26 Khalil Lacy 6-0; 165 (Fr.)
WR:#80 Tamrick Pace 6-3; 192 (Fr.)

[PaladinFan]

I saw someone mentioned a player at UNI as having track experience. Who all on your team plays a lot or is slated to started this year that has serious track or even basketball experience in college or as a standout in high school?

Furman WR Bradford Lemmons was SC state champ in 200m and 400m and second in 100m.

New signee Darius Morehead is a TN state champ in the 100m.

On the field side, DT Jaylan Reid throws shot-put. He finished second in the SoCon.

[ytownchief22]

I'Tavious Harvin, one of Youngstown State's starting WR's actually ran track last year for the school and finished 6th in the Horizon League Outdoor Championships in the 100 meter dash.

[PaladinNation]

Furman WR Bradford Lemmons was SC state champ in 200m and 400m and second in 100m.

New signee Darius Morehead is a TN state champ in the 100m.

On the field side, DT Jaylan Reid throws shot-put. He finished second in the SoCon.

Morehead ran 10.87 (100M) and a 21.91 (200M) Morehead is a 5-9 runningback
Lemmons ran 10.92 (100M) and a 22.12 (200M) Lemmons, I believe had a SEC track offer (Ole Miss) but choose to play football… if he can make strides in holding onto the ball a 6-2 - 10.92 speed receiver will make some noise.

[underdawg]

Yes that is a strange combo. But those are pretty good numbers for kid his size.

He also played OLB but I think we are looking for him as a dual threat QB in the Mark Iannotti mode--runs a credible 4.6 sec 40. probably red shirt since after the probable 2016 starter (Sr, transfer Josh Staughan) we will have 6-4 220 Sam Straub as QB eligible for two more years

AS far as it being unusual--if a kid is naturally strong he can become a good shot putter by using the spin technique which utilizes speed and coordination instead of mere bruit strength--the local star in carbondale high school we are recruiting for next year in the shot is only 6'1" 210 but threw over 65 feet to win the two A title his Soph and Jr year.

[PaladinFan]

Morehead ran 10.87 (100M) and a 21.91 (200M) Morehead is a 5-9 runningback
Lemmons ran 10.92 (100M) and a 22.12 (200M) Lemmons, I believe had a SEC track offer (Ole Miss) but choose to play football… if he can make strides in holding onto the ball a 6-2 - 10.92 speed receiver will make some noise.

I cannot remember Furman recruiting a guy with as much "easy gas" as Morehead has. You watch his film, and he doesn't even look to be running hard while leaving defensive players behind him.

He's a guy I could very much see earning playing time for Furman this season, especially as a kick returner.

[FormerPokeCenter]

A 10.92 and a 22.12 got him an offer at Ole Miss??

Does he do any other events besides those two? That seems a little pedestrian for an SEC ride....Not ragging on the kid, i would just expect an SEC squad to go after more speed...

[PaladinFan]

A 10.92 and a 22.12 got him an offer at Ole Miss??

Does he do any other events besides those two? That seems a little pedestrian for an SEC ride....Not ragging on the kid, i would just expect an SEC squad to go after more speed...

According to Furman press releases he was state champ in the 200m (22.12), 400m (48.20), and second in the 100m (10.92)

For what its worth, I looked at the SEC track championships results from this year. Those times would have been slow (of course, Lemmons was still a high schooler), but comparable to other SEC participants in the preliminaries. That is, he could have gone to the SEC championships and wouldn't have finished first, but also wouldn't have finished last.

Football isn't played on a track in gym shorts, but Lemmons can move. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8E5Wxi7PeU He made some noise in last year's summer practice as an "up and comer" but was buried down the depth chart. With Jordan Snellings graduating, Lemmons is a kid that a lot of Furman fans as circled as one to watch.

Darius Morehead, also a HS track star, can fly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wfbp0ncRtU The kick return starting at the :30 mark shows him picking his way through tacklers and then at about the 50 yard line just leaves everybody.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Okay....the 200 and 400 meter thing makes sense...that's what Old Miss was looking at, his upside would be at those distances....He's strong, so he can carry his pads well...

But...

Here's the finals of the SEC 100:



1.
1.
Mitchell-Blake, Nethaneel
JR-3
LSU
10.16
10


2.
2.
Coleman, Christian
SO-2
Tennessee
10.19
8


3.
3.
Woodson, Markesh
SR-4
Missouri
10.20
6


4.
4.
Lawson, Jarrion
SR-4
Arkansas
10.24
5


5.
5.
Cotton, Kenzo
SO-2
Arkansas
10.28
4


6.
6.
Acy, Tremayne
JR-3
LSU
10.29
3


7.
7.
Clark, Ryan
FR-1
Florida
10.32
2


8.
8.
Williams, Mustaqeem
FR-1
Tennessee
10.33
1


9.
9.
Smith, Teray
JR-3
Auburn
10.37
-





I did see a couple of 10.9's in the first heat of the first round....

10.9's not a bad time by any stretch of the imagination....particularly not for a football player....but...it's what I would expect from an SEC walk-on sprinter...but I doubt that earns any points at any meets...

[SFA 93]

These are our fastest players according to 100 meter times

WR:#88 Aaron Piper 5-9; 186 (Jr.) SFA
- 100 Meters 10.19 (2nd Place) SLC Outdoor Championships <2016>

WR:#26 Khalil Lacy 6-0; 165 (Fr.) SFA
- 100 Meters 10.44 (1st Place) UIL 5A District 9 Finals <2014>

RB:#29 Josh McGowen (Fr.) SFA
- 100 Meters 10.66 (1st Place) UIL 6A District 30 Finals <2016>

CB:#24 Alex Gregory 6-1; 180 (Fr.) SFA
- 100 Meters 11.01 (1st Place) Maverick Relays <2014>

[PaladinFan]

Okay....the 200 and 400 meter thing makes sense...that's what Old Miss was looking at, his upside would be at those distances....He's strong, so he can carry his pads well...

But...

Here's the finals of the SEC 100:



1.
1.
Mitchell-Blake, Nethaneel
JR-3
LSU
10.16
10


2.
2.
Coleman, Christian
SO-2
Tennessee
10.19
8


3.
3.
Woodson, Markesh
SR-4
Missouri
10.20
6


4.
4.
Lawson, Jarrion
SR-4
Arkansas
10.24
5


5.
5.
Cotton, Kenzo
SO-2
Arkansas
10.28
4


6.
6.
Acy, Tremayne
JR-3
LSU
10.29
3


7.
7.
Clark, Ryan
FR-1
Florida
10.32
2


8.
8.
Williams, Mustaqeem
FR-1
Tennessee
10.33
1


9.
9.
Smith, Teray
JR-3
Auburn
10.37
-





I did see a couple of 10.9's in the first heat of the first round....

10.9's not a bad time by any stretch of the imagination....particularly not for a football player....but...it's what I would expect from an SEC walk-on sprinter...but I doubt that earns any points at any meets...

I have no idea if he had a track offer. I'm just pointing out that if he took the reported times from his senior year of high school track championships (which may not even be his fastest time) and participated at the SEC championships, he would have posted a time comparable to some of those preliminary heats.

I don't think many high school seniors would post times comparable to the final heat of the SEC championships. I don't know much about track, though.

[UNIFanSince1983]

These are our fastest players according to 100 meter times

WR:#88 Aaron Piper 5-9; 186 (Jr.) SFA
- 100 Meters 10.19 (2nd Place) SLC Outdoor Championships <2016>

WR:#26 Khalil Lacy 6-0; 165 (Fr.) SFA
- 100 Meters 10.44 (1st Place) UIL 5A District 9 Finals <2014>

RB:#29 Josh McGowen (Fr.) SFA
- 100 Meters 10.66 (1st Place) UIL 6A District 30 Finals <2016>

CB:#24 Alex Gregory 6-1; 180 (Fr.) SFA
- 100 Meters 11.01 (1st Place) Maverick Relays <2014>

Damn 10.19? That is blazingly fast! That dude might have a future in track.

[SFA 93]

This was the run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeY9bbmDE6E

go to 1:15 and 3:33


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1xWB9LqG78

[UNIFanSince1983]

Lots of fast times in that run, and looking at the results the 4.8 wind is a lot. However, 10.19 is still very fast.

[FormerPokeCenter]

I have no idea if he had a track offer. I'm just pointing out that if he took the reported times from his senior year of high school track championships (which may not even be his fastest time) and participated at the SEC championships, he would have posted a time comparable to some of those preliminary heats.

I don't think many high school seniors would post times comparable to the final heat of the SEC championships. I don't know much about track, though.


I'm not trying to rag you....seriously.....Track scholarships are fairly hard to get...generally schools divvy them up and dole out lots of partials...

For Ole Miss to offer a track scholarship, I'd expect a sprinter to be 10.5 or better. You can get walk-ons in the SEC to run 10.9. Those times you saw in heat one, round one are probably just that....Walk-ons who ran in the prelims...

I'm not throwing shade at your recruit, either...that 48 in the 400 has my attention...if he got an offer, it's probably because they're looking at those 200 and 400 times and they see some upside...With the right conditioning and coaching, he could get into the 46 range, maybe faster....10.9 is a good, solid 100 meter time. It's not great, but it's good...the 200 and the 400 times suggest to me that he's strong, so he'll carry his pads well.

He'll be one to watch...

[PaladinFan]

I'm not trying to rag you....seriously.....Track scholarships are fairly hard to get...generally schools divvy them up and dole out lots of partials...

For Ole Miss to offer a track scholarship, I'd expect a sprinter to be 10.5 or better. You can get walk-ons in the SEC to run 10.9. Those times you saw in heat one, round one are probably just that....Walk-ons who ran in the prelims...

I'm not throwing shade at your recruit, either...that 48 in the 400 has my attention...if he got an offer, it's probably because they're looking at those 200 and 400 times and they see some upside...With the right conditioning and coaching, he could get into the 46 range, maybe faster....10.9 is a good, solid 100 meter time. It's not great, but it's good...the 200 and the 400 times suggest to me that he's strong, so he'll carry his pads well.

He'll be one to watch...

You may be completely right. I have no idea. I don't follow track in the slightest, and didn't even know the track scholarship angle until the other Furman fan posted it. I have no idea it is true.

I assume track scholarships are difficult to come by. While the times may be comparable to some SEC runners, it does leave open the question of whether there is a scholarship involved. Maybe he had a chance to run track at the SEC level but took the scholarship slot for football.

[PaladinNation]

You may be completely right. I have no idea. I don't follow track in the slightest, and didn't even know the track scholarship angle until the other Furman fan posted it. I have no idea it is true.

I assume track scholarships are difficult to come by. While the times may be comparable to some SEC runners, it does leave open the question of whether there is a scholarship involved. Maybe he had a chance to run track at the SEC level but took the scholarship slot for football.

I'll jump back in since I dropped the Ole Miss offer comment about Lemmons. When Lemmons signed, I was told at the signing day party that Lemmons had a track offer from Ole Miss… that's all I was told and I didn't question it based on who told me. I also assume it was based on his 200 and 400 performances as well as being a skinny 6-2 kid, he has room to grow and get stronger. As a freshman, he was 6-2 175 now he's up to 188.

[Hammerhead]

Back in the 80s at Fargo South, you had to be on the track and field team if you wanted to be a starter on the football team.


Quite a few, but it is taken with a grain of salt. NDSU recruits a lot of local "3 season" athletes, and we don't have much specialization up here. The level of competition isn't going to be comparable either as far as times/distances.