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JSUSoutherner

January 8th, 2017, 03:55 PM

The Steelers pass D sucks balls.
Yeah, it's not the best but they've kept the run locked down well. It will be interesting to see how they handle Brady in Foxborough.

Steelers have been playing been playing 'bend-don't-break' defense all year, giving up a lot of yards but not many points, and that's what they did today and it's worked out pretty well so far.

Steelers offense looks damn near unstoppable.

POD Knows

January 8th, 2017, 05:10 PM

Yeah, it's not the best but they've kept the run locked down well. It will be interesting to see how they handle Brady in Foxborough.

Steelers have been playing been playing 'bend-don't-break' defense all year, giving up a lot of yards but not many points, and that's what they did today and it's worked out pretty well so far.

Steelers offense looks damn near unstoppable.

The Steelers had a very strange final 6 minutes of that game, strange play calling on O. I hate "bend, don't break D" I had to watch that all year with NDSU. They have a lot of tools on offense but seem to shot themselves in the foot quite a bit. Brown and Bell are two of the best offensive players in the NFL.

JSUSoutherner

January 8th, 2017, 06:18 PM

The Steelers had a very strange final 6 minutes of that game, strange play calling on O. I hate "bend, don't break D" I had to watch that all year with NDSU. They have a lot of tools on offense but seem to shot themselves in the foot quite a bit. Brown and Bell are two of the best offensive players in the NFL.

Pretty sure they went into chew clock mode in the second quarter. But hey, they're winning.

Big Ben also showed up to his post game interview in a boot from an injury in the fourth quarter so that could explain the wonky last six minutes.

Also.... HOLY CRAP RODGERS!

I snagged a peek at the Green Bay playbook

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170108/6a6bad58ae5c62690c9b87bdc83dab98.jpg

POD Knows

January 8th, 2017, 06:24 PM

Pretty sure they went into chew clock mode in the second quarter. But hey, they're winning.

Big Ben also showed up to his post game interview in a boot from an injury in the fourth quarter so that could explain the wonky last six minutes.

Also.... HOLY CRAP RODGERS!

I snagged a peek at the Green Bay playbook

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170108/6a6bad58ae5c62690c9b87bdc83dab98.jpg

Green Bay is lucky as hell.

The Steelers were throwing the ball at the end of the game which was dumb as ****.

I think it will be the Steelers and the Pats and the Pats blow them away.

JSUSoutherner

January 8th, 2017, 07:13 PM

Green Bay is lucky as hell.

The Steelers were throwing the ball at the end of the game which was dumb as ****.

I think it will be the Steelers and the Pats and the Pats blow them away.

I also think it will be the Pats and the Steelers but I don't think they will blow them away. The Steelers have the offense to hang in a shootout and I like the Steelers' run game a lot more than NE's.

I think it will come down to who can get more TDs in the red zone. The Steelers' D has been very good in the red zone.

Since the end of the second quarter GB has been rolling.

bonarae

January 9th, 2017, 03:30 AM

Meanwhile...

Which is the stronger conference judging by the performances of the wild card games? I can't say enough. Offense still rules the day... but defense is close. xcoffeex

PaladinFan

January 9th, 2017, 07:48 AM

Say Falcons fans every year until Matt Ryan starts to choke on himself.

Ryan is prone to critical mistakes, no question. He's done a lot less of that this year in the second year in Shannahan's system and really should be the league MVP. He's been nothing short of incredible all season.

There have been several Falcons teams that have used weak schedules and close wins to high seeds and early playoff exists. I don't see that with this team. These Falcons played the toughest slate of defenses in the NFL, and basically shredded all of them.

They are not great defensively, but do not really need to be. When your offense is scoring 33 ppg, the defense just needs to be something other than abysmal and create a couple of turnovers. That they do well enough.

JSUSoutherner

January 9th, 2017, 09:03 AM

Ryan is prone to critical mistakes, no question. He's done a lot less of that this year in the second year in Shannahan's system and really should be the league MVP. He's been nothing short of incredible all season.

There have been several Falcons teams that have used weak schedules and close wins to high seeds and early playoff exists. I don't see that with this team. These Falcons played the toughest slate of defenses in the NFL, and basically shredded all of them.

They are not great defensively, but do not really need to be. When your offense is scoring 33 ppg, the defense just needs to be something other than abysmal and create a couple of turnovers. That they do well enough.

Except for that game where he thought Eric Berry was a Falcon. And Denzel Perryman. And Earl Thomas.

Matt Ryan has single handledly choked away three games with late interceptions this season alone. To me, giving him the MVP is a joke.

I can think of two quarterbacks who are head and shoulders above Matt Ryan and several running backs who have a stronger MVP case than Ryan. I think Vic Beasley is more deserving than Ryan.

PaladinFan

January 9th, 2017, 09:35 AM

Except for that game where he thought Eric Berry was a Falcon. And Denzel Perryman. And Earl Thomas.

Matt Ryan has single handledly choked away three games with late interceptions this season alone. To me, giving him the MVP is a joke.

I can think of two quarterbacks who are head and shoulders above Matt Ryan and several running backs who have a stronger MVP case than Ryan. I think Vic Beasley is more deserving than Ryan.

I won't argue with you on it. There are plenty of articles from virtually every national sports journalism website making the case for Ryan. You can read those. They make the case better than I can.

As Bill Barnwell noted, Atlanta has an offense that is probably one of the 10 best since 1970. They scored 540 points this year, which is 71 more points than the next best team. Ryan has 38 TDs and 7 picks. All of that while playing the toughest schedule of defenses in the league. The Falcons have played 6 of the top 10 passing defenses in the NFL.

Frankly, there's really not a compelling argument for anyone but Ryan.

JSUSoutherner

January 9th, 2017, 09:55 AM

I won't argue with you on it. There are plenty of articles from virtually every national sports journalism website making the case for Ryan. You can read those. They make the case better than I can.

As Bill Barnwell noted, Atlanta has an offense that is probably one of the 10 best since 1970. They scored 540 points this year, which is 71 more points than the next best team. Ryan has 38 TDs and 7 picks. All of that while playing the toughest schedule of defenses in the league. The Falcons have played 6 of the top 10 passing defenses in the NFL.

Frankly, there's really not a compelling argument for anyone but Ryan.

I don't disagree that the Falcons offense is top-notch. I completely agree 100%. But to me, they are 100% not because of just Ryan, but because of Ryan's' supporting cast as well.

He he has a top notch offensive line, the best receiver in the league, several other great reviving options in Sanu and Gabriel, and the best running back duo in the NFL.

Could you imagine what Brady or Rodgers would currently be doing with Matt Ryan's assets? Rodgers has had 22 TDs (18 of them regular season) and no picks in the last seven weeks with no running game and a beat up receiving corps.

I think I differ from majority opinion on this subject because I don't see the MVP how other people do. I think of it as who is the best player in the NFL and who makes the biggest impact on the game week in and week out reguadless of how their team is doing.

For example, I think David Johnson should be in the mix. He's an absolute beast all season who led the league in yards from scrimmage and had more points than any non-kicker in the NFL but gets no looks because the Cardinals suck.

That's not to say MVP's can't come from good teams but when their strongest argument is "their team is number one" rather than "they're leading the NFL in all these stats" I don't really buy it.

PaladinFan

January 9th, 2017, 12:13 PM

I don't disagree that the Falcons offense is top-notch. I completely agree 100%. But to me, they are 100% not because of just Ryan, but because of Ryan's' supporting cast as well.

He he has a top notch offensive line, the best receiver in the league, several other great reviving options in Sanu and Gabriel, and the best running back duo in the NFL.

Could you imagine what Brady or Rodgers would currently be doing with Matt Ryan's assets? Rodgers has had 22 TDs (18 of them regular season) and no picks in the last seven weeks with no running game and a beat up receiving corps.

I think I differ from majority opinion on this subject because I don't see the MVP how other people do. I think of it as who is the best player in the NFL and who makes the biggest impact on the game week in and week out reguadless of how their team is doing.

For example, I think David Johnson should be in the mix. He's an absolute beast all season who led the league in yards from scrimmage and had more points than any non-kicker in the NFL but gets no looks because the Cardinals suck.

That's not to say MVP's can't come from good teams but when their strongest argument is "their team is number one" rather than "they're leading the NFL in all these stats" I don't really buy it.

But you could make that argument against anyone, couldn't you? I mean, Ezekiel Elliot has spent all season running through holes you could drive a truck through. In a sport like football, to some degree you are always going to rely on the supporting cast.

I don't think Ryan's success is just because of the OL, though. He makes a lot of pinpoint throws and "throws receivers open." He set an NFL record for hitting (I think) 13 different receivers this year for touchdowns.

Great example is this throw a few weeks ago against Carolina. Throws a perfect ball in between two Carolina defenders. Rookie TE is well covered, but neither the CB or LB can do anything with where the ball is placed. It is an indefensible pass. http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media-lounge/videos/Cant-Miss-Play-Perkins-First-Career-TD/073f8cc7-83b0-4b0a-b493-1a64a94e428c

Laker

January 9th, 2017, 04:48 PM

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Laker

January 9th, 2017, 04:54 PM

"Not in my house!"

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bonarae

January 11th, 2017, 12:44 AM

Meanwhile...

Le'Veon Bell has compared himself to an NFL version of Stephen Curry on the NBA side...

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18446797/leveon-bell-pittsburgh-steelers-changing-nfl-stephen-curry-changed-nba

JSUSoutherner

January 11th, 2017, 04:30 AM

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Laker

January 11th, 2017, 10:26 PM

Not stunned, just sad. 55 years in San Diego. It sucks to lose a team. I still miss the North Stars.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter) 20m20 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/819376593734946816)
A stunner: Chargers plan to announce as early as Thursday they are moving to LA, ending 55-year stint with SD, league sources tell ESPN.

JSUSoutherner

January 12th, 2017, 12:40 AM

I wonder how long it will be before Oakland announces a move to Vegas.

Doesn't the league still have to approve a Vegas move anyway?

Laker

January 12th, 2017, 07:48 AM

JSUSoutherner

January 12th, 2017, 10:48 AM

Interesting.

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin (https://twitter.com/BillShaikin) 6h6 hours ago (https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/819431828213800960)
Franchise moves, last 40 years: MLB 1, NBA 7, NHL 7, NFL 9.

I can only think of 7 moves in that time frame. What were the other two?

Raiders -> LA
Raiders-> Oakland
Oilers-> Tenn
Browns-> Ravens
Chargers-> LA
Rams-> LA
Rams-> SL

Laker

January 12th, 2017, 11:00 AM

I can only think of 6 moves in that time frame. What were the other three?

Raiders -> LA
Raiders-> Oakland
Oilers-> Tenn
Browns-> Ravens
Chargers-> LA
Rams-> LA

These are the ones that I found:
Oakland Raiders to LA 1982
Baltimore Colts to Indianapolis 1984
St Louis Cardinals to Phoenix 1988
LA Raiders to Oakland 1995
LA Rams to St Louis 1995
Cleveland Browns to Baltimore 1996
Houston Oilers to Memphis 1997 but that was temporary anyway- to Nashville 1998
St Louis Rams to LA 2016
San Diego Chargers to LA 2017 assuming this goes through

JSUSoutherner

January 12th, 2017, 11:05 AM

These are the ones that I found:
Oakland Raiders to LA 1982
Baltimore Colts to Indianapolis 1984
St Louis Cardinals to Phoenix 1988
LA Raiders to Oakland 1995
LA Rams to St Louis 1995
Cleveland Browns to Baltimore 1996
Houston Oilers to Memphis 1997 but that was temporary anyway- to Nashville 1998
St Louis Rams to LA 2016
San Diego Chargers to LA 2017 assuming this goes through
Totally forgot the Colts move. Didn't know the Cardinals used to be in SL. So did SL have two Cardinals at the same time? Has that ever happened anywhere else?

Laker

January 12th, 2017, 11:16 AM

Totally forgot the Colts move. Didn't know the Cardinals used to be in SL. So did SL have two Cardinals at the same time? Has that ever happened anywhere else?

The Cardinals were in Chicago until 1960. So we had two Cardinal teams there.

The New York Giants moved to San Francisco in 1958. So you had two Giants teams.

The Brooklyn Dodgers moved to LA in 1958. There used to be a Brooklyn Dodgers football team.

I'm sure there were others in the old days- but those come to mind right away.

dgtw

January 12th, 2017, 01:12 PM

The Sacramento Kings began as the Rochester Royals. They then moved to Cincinnati, where they played during the Oscar Robertson era.

In the early 1970s they moved to Kansas City. The baseball team there was the Royals so the basketball team became the Kings. The Negro League team there was the Monarchs.

It is hard to believe San Diego will only have one major pro sports team.

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superman7515

January 12th, 2017, 01:27 PM

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18458717/san-diego-chargers-desperate-move-shot-nfl-vitality-2017

Now a weird year for the NFL just got weirder. If the Chargers do indeed move, and if owners approve the Raiders' move to Vegas in March, three teams will have relocated in a 14-month span. There will be plenty of blame to go around. Goodell will be the face of it, but internally, owners and executives will wonder if NFL executive Eric Grubman, the point man on stadiums, did an effective enough job of negotiating with San Diego officials. The owners will be viewed as vessels of greed; Spanos will be the one who in the end decided to pull the plug on a cherished home, his legacy a sunburned version of Art Modell's. But the lingering conflict goes beyond the relocations, beyond the logistics and into an area that is tougher to navigate if not solve, because there is no clear solution: What if the NFL simply matters less?

It's a question that goes beyond the ratings issues of 2016, a crisis that wasn't -- but still shook some owners as a premonition that the league's cultural supremacy might be at stake. All stadium deals are different, and it's especially difficult to build one in California, but given the stakes, it was revealing that the Chargers' November stadium ballot measure went down so badly, with only 43 percent in support of it. The city had a choice and it made it.

Now Los Angeles, which for two decades watched the weekend's two best games on TV, will watch the Rams and the Chargers. Owners publicly are bullish about Los Angeles as a two-team town; privately they're not so sure -- especially because owners don't want the one team that would do best there, the Raiders, to return to their old home, owning to Al Davis' burned bridges and the co-opting of real apparel by gangs (http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/14752649/the-real-story-nfl-owners-battle-bring-football-back-los-angeles). "How are the Chargers going to market themselves?" one team executive says. "'We didn't want to be here, but we're here, so buy some PSLs?'"...

bonarae

January 12th, 2017, 06:34 PM

Will the San Diego fans' response be akin to Seattle fans' in the NBA back in 2012? xchinscratchx

Bisonoline

January 12th, 2017, 09:35 PM

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18458717/san-diego-chargers-desperate-move-shot-nfl-vitality-2017

Wow. A lot of twists and turns.

Bisonoline

January 12th, 2017, 09:42 PM

These are the ones that I found:
Oakland Raiders to LA 1982
Baltimore Colts to Indianapolis 1984
St Louis Cardinals to Phoenix 1988
LA Raiders to Oakland 1995
LA Rams to St Louis 1995
Cleveland Browns to Baltimore 1996
Houston Oilers to Memphis 1997 but that was temporary anyway- to Nashville 1998
St Louis Rams to LA 2016
San Diego Chargers to LA 2017 assuming this goes through

Didnt the NFL cancel the Browns as a name sake move and let the team move to Baltimore and then gave Cleveland an expansion team who retained the Browns name?

JSUSoutherner

January 12th, 2017, 09:48 PM

Didnt the NFL cancel the Browns as a name sake move and let the team move to Baltimore and then gave Cleveland an expansion team who retained the Browns name?
Yeah part of the deal with the move was the Browns name and team record stayed in Cleveland while the personelle and staff went to Baltimore to do their own thing.

dgtw

January 13th, 2017, 08:05 AM

Technically the Ravens are an expansion team and the Browns just took a hiatus.

If I were the pre-hiatus Browns I would petition the NFL to let Baltimore have my history. That way nobody would connect me to the current version of the team.

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citdog

January 14th, 2017, 07:51 PM

Bye Seattle! On to the NFC Championship Game!

http://www.sportsonearth.com/assets/images/3/1/0/40997310/cuts/mattryan_zrtayjbf_swaj1u36.jpg

dgtw

January 14th, 2017, 09:30 PM

I think the veteran Rodgers leads the Packers over the rookie QB. One last game at the Georgia Dome.

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JSUSoutherner

January 15th, 2017, 10:03 AM

I think the veteran Rodgers leads the Packers over the rookie QB. One last game at the Georgia Dome.

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That's my gut feeling as well. Rodgers is a damn stud in the playoffs and Green Bay's defense is night and day compared to when they last met the Cowboys. My concern however is that the Cowboys Offensive will be able to just impose their will and Zeke will eat.

I'm REALLY excited about the Steelers/ Chiefs game tonight. I think it will be a helluva game.

Laker

January 15th, 2017, 11:56 AM

Fifty years ago today I was sitting in the living room reading the Sunday paper and watching Green Bay beat Kansas City 35-10 in the first Super Bowl. And it wasn't even sold out.

Quite the halftime refreshment for Len Dawson- a bottle of Fresca and a heater.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2ODz1BXcAENX2L.jpg:large

JSUSoutherner

January 15th, 2017, 08:31 PM

Rodgers is by far the most fun quarterback to watch. He's a freaking stud. The matchup next week should be one hell of a game.

Bisonoline

January 15th, 2017, 09:14 PM

TheRevSFA

January 15th, 2017, 09:15 PM

bonarae

January 15th, 2017, 09:27 PM

Steelers haven't found the endzone thus far, but 3 FGs in the 1st half. Looks like defense will dictate the outcome of the other playoff game today.

Bisonoline

January 15th, 2017, 09:30 PM

I think Dallas and Green Bay will turn out to be the best game of the entire post season.

Also I think if Dallas can address defense they will be contenders yearly under prescott. He showed what he can do. It's a shame that bad clock management hurt how that game ended

What a way to finish a game. The last what 3-5 minutes were crazy.

JSUSoutherner

January 15th, 2017, 09:33 PM

I think Dallas and Green Bay will turn out to be the best game of the entire post season.

Also I think if Dallas can address defense they will be contenders yearly under prescott. He showed what he can do. It's a shame that bad clock management hurt how that game ended
Yeah. The Cowboys will only get better, they are extremely young on offense. They aren't going anywhere and even with a loss Prescott convinced me he's the real deal.

LeVeon Bell beating the Chiefs like a drum.

dgtw

January 16th, 2017, 12:01 AM

Both games went down to the end today. I think it will be Atlanta and NE in the Super Bowl.

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ALPHAGRIZ1

January 16th, 2017, 03:47 AM

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ALPHAGRIZ1

January 16th, 2017, 03:48 AM

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JSUSoutherner

January 16th, 2017, 09:56 AM

Both games went down to the end today. I think it will be Atlanta and NE in the Super Bowl.

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Is Julio playing next week?

The Packers/ Falcons game will be a shootout. Rodgers can hang but that Packers secondary... ooof.

Thumper 76

January 16th, 2017, 10:05 AM

Is Julio playing next week?

The Packers/ Falcons game will be a shootout. Rodgers can hang but that Packers secondary... ooof.

Nelson might be playing fro Green Bay as well. Big equalizer is the run game for ATL, as a Packers fan I'm worried that the Falcons do what Dallas should have done and control the clock with the run game to keep Rodgers off the field and out of rhythm.

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Gil Dobie

January 16th, 2017, 11:07 AM

Packers are focused and Rodgers is hot. Packers D just has to slow down the Falcons enough, so the Packers offense can out-score them.

JSUSoutherner

January 16th, 2017, 11:15 AM

Packers are focused and Rodgers is hot. Packers D just has to slow down the Falcons enough, so the Packers offense can out-score them.
Yeah. That seems to be the case. This game might be the first team to 50 wins.

ALPHAGRIZ1

January 16th, 2017, 01:05 PM

Packers or Falcons are playing for second place.

I would probably lean towards the Pack beating Atlanta since they have Matt Ryan

JSUSoutherner

January 17th, 2017, 09:25 AM

Just looked up tickets to the NFC championship this weekend. $320 a piece. For nosebleed. Looks like my friend and I are watching from the couch this weekend.

Gil Dobie

January 17th, 2017, 09:30 AM

Just looked up tickets to the NFC championship this weekend. $320 a piece. For nosebleed. Looks like my friend and I are watching from the couch this weekend.

Guess I won't have to worry about finding tickets and driving up from Florida.

JSUSoutherner

January 17th, 2017, 09:32 AM

Club Level is $1200 and lower level (not sideline, just lower level) tickets start at $750.

Gil Dobie

January 17th, 2017, 09:34 AM

Stubhub has $290

JSUSoutherner

January 17th, 2017, 09:41 AM

Stubhub has $290Thats still way more than I can afford.

Gil Dobie

January 17th, 2017, 09:57 AM

Thats still way more than I can afford.

Yep, I paid $177 for Super Bowl tickets in 1992.

Laker

January 17th, 2017, 05:39 PM

Bisonoline

January 17th, 2017, 05:52 PM

bonarae

January 17th, 2017, 07:24 PM

Laker

January 17th, 2017, 07:34 PM

Is it too much? xchinscratchx Is he similar to the coach of an NCAA school suspending players for "violations of team rules"?

I'm old school. If I just tell a player NOT to do something- and then they do it anyway- someone regardless of physical talent is going to get a butt kicking. Why does a player do something like that at any time- and especially during the playoffs? Arrogance or stupidity?

POD Knows

January 17th, 2017, 08:54 PM

Mike Tomlin was just telling his team not to do this kind of thing on social media. As he is talking Antonio Brown is doing it. How frustrating.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/mike-tomlin-blasts-antonio-brown-for-sharing-locker-room-video/ar-AAlWTee?OCID=ansmsnnews11

I am a Steeler fan and I think that Brown is one of the best receivers in the NFL but at one point in time during the season, I think that 40% of A Brown's TD's ended with an excessive celebration penalty, I believe that the penalty was accessed 4 times in his first 10 TD's. He needs a smack on the side of his head.

Thumper 76

January 17th, 2017, 09:21 PM

I'm old school. If I just tell a player NOT to do something- and then they do it anyway- someone regardless of physical talent is going to get a butt kicking. Why does a player do something like that at any time- and especially during the playoffs? Arrogance or stupidity?

Because he's a WR, and that's what they do. Nothing made me prouder to have ZZ come from SDSU than how he acted when he scored a TD for the Lions xnodx

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Go Lehigh TU Owl

January 17th, 2017, 10:59 PM

Stubhub has $290

That's about what regular season tickets to a Patriot's game cost. Thankfully, I can usually see them play in Buffalo for about $50.

JSUSoutherner

January 18th, 2017, 01:27 AM

I am a Steeler fan and I think that Brown is one of the best receivers in the NFL but at one point in time during the season, I think that 40% of A Brown's TD's ended with an excessive celebration penalty, I believe that the penalty was accessed 4 times in his first 10 TD's. He needs a smack on the side of his head.
WGAF? They need more celebrations. I wasn't around to see guys like Deion Sanders play. I would love to see the league lay off the touchdown celebrations. What are they afraid of hurting someone's feelings? WGAF? Give me more showboating. Don't turn the NFL into Nascar.

Thumper 76

January 18th, 2017, 09:40 AM

WGAF? They need more celebrations. I wasn't around to see guys like Deion Sanders play. I would love to see the league lay off the touchdown celebrations. What are they afraid of hurting someone's feelings? WGAF? Give me more showboating. Don't turn the NFL into Nascar.

I don't mind celebrations but these guys would go way too far with it if they didn't put limits on it. They already do some stupid stuff that's against the rules, they would go way out of bounds if there wasn't anything stopping them in an effort to one up the other guy.

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JSUSoutherner

January 18th, 2017, 11:01 AM

I don't mind celebrations but these guys would go way too far with it if they didn't put limits on it. They already do some stupid stuff that's against the rules, they would go way out of bounds if there wasn't anything stopping them in an effort to one up the other guy.

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and?

Thumper 76

January 18th, 2017, 01:05 PM

and?

Tell me why there shouldn't be a reasonable limit? No sexual acts or threatening behavior is pretty reasonable to me. If you can't handle that you probably cant handle the money they're fining you in the first place.

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POD Knows

January 18th, 2017, 01:23 PM

WGAF? They need more celebrations. I wasn't around to see guys like Deion Sanders play. I would love to see the league lay off the touchdown celebrations. What are they afraid of hurting someone's feelings? WGAF? Give me more showboating. Don't turn the NFL into Nascar.

Yea, I agree with you but there is currently a rule in place, very subjective, and until it changes, he needs to tone it down. It almost cost them a game this year. He scored towards the end of the game, did a bunch of end zone ****, got a penalty and the opposing team ran the kickoff back into the Pittsburgh end of the field. The Steelers dodged a bullet but it didn't need to happen.

POD Knows

January 18th, 2017, 01:26 PM

WGAF? They need more celebrations. I wasn't around to see guys like Deion Sanders play. I would love to see the league lay off the touchdown celebrations. What are they afraid of hurting someone's feelings? WGAF? Give me more showboating. Don't turn the NFL into Nascar.

I tell you what, I have been watching football since the 60's and if you would have hot dogged back then the way these guys do now, you might of got hurt. As it stands, wide receivers are the biggest trash talkers out there because they are the second most protected athlete on the field, next to the QB's. Bring back the bump and run and allow ALL contact before the ball is in the air, then you can bring back end zone celebrations. Sounds like a fair deal to me.

JSUSoutherner

January 18th, 2017, 02:06 PM

Tell me why there shouldn't be a reasonable limit? No sexual acts or threatening behavior is pretty reasonable to me. If you can't handle that you probably cant handle the money they're fining you in the first place.

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Who said anything about doing that. I'm talking about showboating. Like how everyone was ready to burn Cam Newton at the stake because he dabbed when he slaughtered people and it was "inconsiderate". Screw that garbage. Rub it in.

I tell you what, I have been watching football since the 60's and if you would have hot dogged back then the way these guys do now, you might of got hurt. As it stands, wide receivers are the biggest trash talkers out there because they are the second most protected athlete on the field, next to the QB's. Bring back the bump and run and allow ALL contact before the ball is in the air, then you can bring back end zone celebrations. Sounds like a fair deal to me.

Can we bring back big hits while we're at it? I'd love to see another Sean Taylor or Night Train Lane in the game.

Thumper 76

January 18th, 2017, 02:25 PM

Who said anything about doing that. I'm talking about showboating. Like how everyone was ready to burn Cam Newton at the stake because he dabbed when he slaughtered people and it was "inconsiderate". Screw that garbage. Rub it in.

Can we bring back big hits while we're at it? I'd love to see another Sean Taylor or Night Train Lane in the game.

To point one I completely agree, I just don't want to hear their tears when the defensive players hit them with some extra malice that they have brought on themselves.

For the second point, a WR being able to be destroyed over the middle again would tone down the trash talk and deflate some egos, but we will never see that again unless they can invent a helmet that can guarantee against concussions.

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JSUSoutherner

January 18th, 2017, 07:40 PM

To point one I completely agree, I just don't want to hear their tears when the defensive players hit them with some extra malice that they have brought on themselves.

For the second point, a WR being able to be destroyed over the middle again would tone down the trash talk and deflate some egos, but we will never see that again unless they can invent a helmet that can guarantee against concussions.

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Yeah. That's the unfortunate part. I would love to see someone get Sean Taylor'd but I don't want to see players getting hurt in the process.

Smitty

January 19th, 2017, 07:51 AM

To point one I completely agree, I just don't want to hear their tears when the defensive players hit them with some extra malice that they have brought on themselves.

For the second point, a WR being able to be destroyed over the middle again would tone down the trash talk and deflate some egos, but we will never see that again unless they can invent a helmet that can guarantee against concussions.

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As a fan of the Panthers, I don't mind Cam getting hit, just stop going for the head...

Laker

January 19th, 2017, 03:59 PM

Old news by now but the Raiders have filed papers to move to Vegas.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/01/19/raiders-file-papers-to-move-from-oakland-to-las-vegas/96778716/

bonarae

January 19th, 2017, 09:50 PM

Seattle could lose a 2nd round draft pick next year for failing to report Richard Sherman's knee injury.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/seahawks-could-lose-second-round-draft-pick-after-failing-to-report-sherman-injury/

bonarae

January 19th, 2017, 09:54 PM

Meanwhile... the Ravens' owner suggests that the NFL should air less commercials.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-owner-says-nfl-games-need-to-have-fewer-commercials/

And... an LA Rams player thinks that the NFL should expand again instead of having teams relocate.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/rams-player-says-nfl-should-look-at-expanding-instead-of-relocating-teams/

dgtw

January 20th, 2017, 10:10 PM

I don't see the NFL expanding anytime soon. The 8x4 division setup works great and two more teams screws that up.

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PaladinFan

January 21st, 2017, 07:03 AM

I don't see the NFL expanding anytime soon. The 8x4 division setup works great and two more teams screws that up.

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They'll do whatever makes them money.

PaladinFan

January 21st, 2017, 04:00 PM

Should be two pretty good games tomorrow.

Falcons host a Green Bay team that might be the only offense in the NFL that can keep up with them. They are a one-man band, but that one man is hard to stop.

ASU33

January 22nd, 2017, 10:19 AM

JSUSoutherner

January 22nd, 2017, 12:50 PM

I've never seen the city buzzing the way it's been this last week. Last Falcons game in the dome, Super Bowl spot on the line, and a historic team like Green Bay in town has been a perfect storm for the city.
I think it would be hilarious if the Falcons got stomped. I don't think it will happen though.

Bisonator

January 22nd, 2017, 04:39 PM

Packers are getting stomped at half time 24-0. xlolx

Go Lehigh TU Owl

January 22nd, 2017, 04:58 PM

31-0 Atlanta

Rodgers stole a game against a not ready for prime time Dallas team. Against this Atlanta team Rodgers and Co are completely outclassed.....

Bisonoline

January 22nd, 2017, 06:46 PM

Packers are getting stomped at half time 24-0. xlolx

Atlanta played lights out. The Packers receivers looked like the played for the Eagles they dropped sp many passes.

PaladinFan

January 22nd, 2017, 08:01 PM

Atlanta is just dismantling every team that stands in front of them right now.

Laker

January 22nd, 2017, 08:17 PM

Me and Julio down by the school yard........

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2zjOrOXUAIG-cr.jpg

Bisonoline

January 22nd, 2017, 08:18 PM

Atlanta is just dismantling every team that stands in front of them right now.

Yep they are just playing at a higher level. Hope they can carry it in to the super bowl.

JSUSoutherner

January 22nd, 2017, 08:50 PM

Steelers defense needs to realize they suck **** at playing zone and switch this garbage up. Their defense looks worse than the Packers right now

dgtw

January 22nd, 2017, 09:02 PM

Steelers defense needs to realize they suck **** at playing zone and switch this garbage up. Their defense looks worse than the Packers right now

Tom Brady will do that to you.

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Smitty

January 22nd, 2017, 10:30 PM

https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16196059_1206620282779520_340806923864111870_n.jpg ?oh=cd49242527de06c9cf90fd25fb8c0cf3&oe=591F04AA

JSUSoutherner

January 22nd, 2017, 10:42 PM

Tom Brady will do that to you.

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Tom Brady had literally nothing to do with the Steelers straight up leaving people uncovered. He just exposed them.

POD Knows

January 22nd, 2017, 11:02 PM

Tom Brady had literally nothing to do with the Steelers straight up leaving people uncovered. He just exposed them.

The Steelers secondary left people uncovered all year.

Mattymc727

January 23rd, 2017, 08:18 AM

9 Super Bowl Appearences! Lets Gooooo! One for the thumb!

Thumper 76

January 23rd, 2017, 09:03 AM

9 Super Bowl Appearences! Lets Gooooo! One for the thumb!

Atlanta is going to expose the Pats defense.

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Bisonator

January 23rd, 2017, 09:56 AM

Go dirty birds!

Go Lehigh TU Owl

January 23rd, 2017, 10:34 AM

Atlanta is going to expose the Pats defense.

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Pats will not give up many points. Expose is a relative term. Their secondary is excellent as is their DL. BB will have a very sound game plan prepared for Atlanta. The Falcons are legit but this will be the test of all tests for Quinn and Co.

The Pats are insanely healthy. I can't remember a NE team who dodged the injury bug like this one has. I personally think this could be the second best NE team ever. The 2007 team is still the best.

JSUSoutherner

January 23rd, 2017, 10:52 AM

Atlanta is going to expose the Pats defense.

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Or choke super hardcore like they did against the Chiefs and Chargers

Mattymc727

January 23rd, 2017, 11:46 AM

Atlanta is going to expose the Pats defense.

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REALLY? Like how Big Ben and the busy bees were supposed to? Im sure Bill B is shaking in his boots that he has to cover a talented WR and stop a run game. Hes never done that before...yawn...

POD Knows

January 23rd, 2017, 11:55 AM

REALLY? Like how Big Ben and the busy bees were supposed to? Im sure Bill B is shaking in his boots that he has to cover a talented WR and stop a run game. Hes never done that before...yawn...

New England's SOS was really weak, I don't know how they got all these home games. xlolx

Thumper 76

January 23rd, 2017, 12:31 PM

Pats will not give up many points. Expose is a relative term. Their secondary is excellent as is their DL. BB will have a very sound game plan prepared for Atlanta. The Falcons are legit but this will be the test of all tests for Quinn and Co.

The Pats are insanely healthy. I can't remember a NE team who dodged the injury bug like this one has. I personally think this could be the second best NE team ever. The 2007 team is still the best.
Well part of their health has to be attributed to playing some pretty garbage teams as well as their defensive stats being propped up by somehow managing to play the worst qbs the NFL has to offer. I'm not surprised they're in the Super Bowl, and they certainly are deserving, but the NFC was the better conference this year in my book.

REALLY? Like how Big Ben and the busy bees were supposed to? Im sure Bill B is shaking in his boots that he has to cover a talented WR and stop a run game. Hes never done that before...yawn...
Big Ben and Co aren't on the same level offensively as the Falcons are this year. It's not a two man band for them like it is for Pittsburgh with one good WR and one good RB. They have multiple of both. The least shocking thing I've found out today is your a Pats fan. It fits you.

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JSUSoutherner

January 23rd, 2017, 12:47 PM

New England's SOS was really weak, I don't know how they got all these home games. xlolx
THIS HOLY CRAP.

Who did New England have to beat this year?

Cardinals (Courtesy of the biggest choke of Cantzaro's career)
Texans (Brock Oswieler, 'nuff said)
Dolphins (who in the next three weeks went to OT with the Browns, lost to the Bengals, and lost to the Titans)
Browns (Really?)
Bengals (6-9-1, if Brock Oswieler can beat them, so can Brady)
Bills (isn't this the team that made the Jets look good?)
49ers (I bet Philadelphia fans got a laugh out of this one)
Jets (I bet they miss Sanchez)
Rams (Didn't their coach set a record this year or something?)
Ravens (the perfect blend of optimism and mediocrity)
Broncos (Spent the season supplying charity wins to garbage NFC West teams)
Jets (that Harvard kid should be smart enough to know the guys in green are the ones he should be throwing to)
Dolphins (Didn't even have Tannehill in this game)
Texans (Brock ****ing Oswieler)

Steelers (I'll give you this one. But their defense was dog ****)

This isn't one of the best Patriots teams in history, this is one of the most overrated.

PaladinFan

January 23rd, 2017, 01:13 PM

PaladinFan

January 23rd, 2017, 01:26 PM

Or choke super hardcore like they did against the Chiefs and Chargers

Just my opinion, but in the NFL, looking at games in October is pretty much irrelevant. Falcons lost to the Charges in OT the week before beating the Packers by 1 point. Green Bay showed up again last night in the Georgia Dome and was soundly trounced. I expect the same would have happened to San Diego.

Remember, the Falcons start 3 rookies on defense (Deion Jones, De'Vondre Cambell, Keanu Neal). They also start another 4 second year players (Vic Beasley, Grady Jarrett, Ricardo Allen, Jalen Collins). As the season went on, those guys have started to turn into a pretty good defensive unit.

I realize the schedule is the schedule, but looking at games months ago (as the Packers would attest) is pretty irrelevant to what is going on the last week in January. The Falcons are a much more complete team as those young defensive players have continued to improve.

Mattymc727

January 23rd, 2017, 01:37 PM

PaladinFan

January 23rd, 2017, 02:18 PM

Wow, the Patriots hate is strong here. Keep doubting this teams SOS. they only have the GOAT at QB, GOAT at HC, and have actually been to the SB 7 times before. The Falcons have no idea what they are getting into.

Ill admit, the Falcons offense is downright nasty. They have the best WR in the world, the best RB duo in the NFL, and a decent QB. Muhamed Sanu is not to laugh at either.

However if you think that offense can do what they did to GB to the Patriots, youre blind.

Anyone remember the greatest show on turf in 2001? 2003 Panthers? 2004 Eagles?

What stops the patriots is a creative and violent defense. The Falcons dont have that.

I think you said "decent QB" when you meant "MVP."

You can explain the Falcons' lack of a violent defense to Aaron Rodgers (http://florida.247sports.com/Bolt/WATCH-Brian-Poole-levels-Aaron-Rodgers-50734611), and Russell Wilson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR8aOJR97KY)

Edit: Also, look at this sack of Rodgers by Ra'Shede Hageman (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000777580/Ra-Shede-Hageman-sacks-Aaron-Rodgers-by-shoelace). Not a violent hit on Rodgers (though impressive he tackled an elusive QB by swatting his leg out from him), but watch him just truck the GB center. Love that kind of stuff.

Bisonator

January 23rd, 2017, 03:05 PM

Wonder what the Cheatriots are doing this year. Video gate, deflate gate, .......xcoffeex

Mattymc727

January 23rd, 2017, 03:47 PM

Wonder what the Cheatriots are doing this year. Video gate, deflate gate, .......xcoffeex

Hired a fan to pull the fire alarm in the steelers hotel.

Should be two 1st rounders and an 8 game suspension for Brady.

JSUSoutherner

January 23rd, 2017, 05:33 PM

I think you said "decent QB" when you meant "MVP."

You can explain the Falcons' lack of a violent defense to Aaron Rodgers (http://florida.247sports.com/Bolt/WATCH-Brian-Poole-levels-Aaron-Rodgers-50734611), and Russell Wilson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR8aOJR97KY)
Cam Newton had an MVP trophy too. He's decent. Matt Ryan is as such.

The REAL MVP is Shanahan.

On another note, my friend sent me this link and I about died of laughter.

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/21328/thats-so-browns-super-bowl-overflows-with-ex-cleveland-guys

Laker

January 28th, 2017, 10:40 AM

Like em? Hate em? Pictures of alternative NFL mini-helmets. Some look nice- others, like the Vikings- don't. Judge for yourself.

http://www.clarktoys.com/riblalhe.html?utm_source=Clarktoys.com&utm_campaign=531b3a456b-NFL_Blaze_Helmets&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fb6e0e171d-531b3a456b-98341813&mc_cid=531b3a456b&mc_eid=7d1711ad4a

bonarae

January 30th, 2017, 12:32 AM

Meanwhile... the Pro Bowl was played and the AFC won, 20-13, behind key goal-line stands and INTs. Did anyone watch it?

And... LT and Lynch headline the list of 15 finalists for Canton's 2017 batch. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/pro-football-hall-of-fame-class-of-2017-finalists-tomlinson-headlines-list-of-15/

Finally... did the 49ers make a bad hire in John Lynch as the GM? http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49ers-hire-john-lynch-to-be-next-general-manager-in-shocking-move/

JSUSoutherner

January 30th, 2017, 12:40 AM

Bisonator

January 30th, 2017, 09:19 AM

bonarae

January 31st, 2017, 08:33 AM

Meanwhile...

Raiders may have to stay put after a casino billionaire pulls out suddenly from their new stadium in Las Vegas. And Goldman Sachs will have to re-evaluate their involvement as well.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18590188/oakland-raiders-las-vegas-stadium-deal-doubt-goldman-sachs-re-evaluates-involvement

Laker

January 31st, 2017, 09:18 AM

Meanwhile...

Raiders may have to stay put after a casino billionaire pulls out suddenly from their new stadium in Las Vegas. And Goldman Sachs will have to re-evaluate their involvement as well.

Question for Raider season ticket holders: do you renew if they stay, or say screw you?

bonarae

January 31st, 2017, 11:17 PM

Meanwhile...

Browns are willing to trade for the Pats' fill-in QB, Jimmy Garoppolo. Is he an upgrade for them? http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-browns-will-try-to-trade-for-patriots-backup-qb-jimmy-garoppolo/
(http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-browns-will-try-to-trade-for-patriots-backup-qb-jimmy-garoppolo/)

344Johnson

January 31st, 2017, 11:38 PM

REALLY? Like how Big Ben and the busy bees were supposed to? Im sure Bill B is shaking in his boots that he has to cover a talented WR and stop a run game. Hes never done that before...yawn...

Big Ben and the Steelers on the road vs. at home are two very different animals. Bell being out pretty much that whole game didn't help.

Atlanta is better than Pittsburgh. Mike Tomlin sucks.

bonarae

February 1st, 2017, 11:13 PM

Meanwhile...

San Diego may pursue the Raiders if their Vegas plan falls through...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/san-diego-interested-in-pursuing-the-raiders-if-vegas-falls-through/

Laker

February 1st, 2017, 11:17 PM

Meanwhile...

San Diego may pursue the Raiders if their Vegas plan falls through...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/san-diego-interested-in-pursuing-the-raiders-if-vegas-falls-through/

What a huge irony it would be if the Raiders moved to San Diego. And since the Chargers would probably always be the second team in LA, just like the Clippers- maybe they should move to Oakland............

These franchise shifts are getting to be a sad joke.

PaladinFan

February 2nd, 2017, 09:50 AM

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/michael-vick-atlanta-falcons-super-bowl-li/

bonarae

February 4th, 2017, 08:21 PM

Canton Batch 2017 is set:
LT
Terrell Davis
Kurt Warner
Kenny Easley
Morten Andersen
Jason Taylor
Jerry Jones

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JSUSoutherner

February 4th, 2017, 10:19 PM

Canton Batch 2017 is set:
LT
Terrell Davis
Kurt Warner
Kenny Easley
Morten Andersen
Jason Taylor
Jerry Jones

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Dawkins, TO, and Law got shafted.

Heck, Ty Law has as many Rings as Jerry Jones.

Laker

February 4th, 2017, 11:42 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C33RaF4UcAAur3J.jpg

grizband

February 5th, 2017, 02:24 PM

Dawkins, TO, and Law got shafted.

Heck, Ty Law has as many Rings as Jerry Jones.
Terrel Owens should definitely be in the Hall!

citdog

February 5th, 2017, 02:30 PM

GO FALCONS!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f0/34/13/f03413cbb0a4dc8a0953a007d6a956a3.jpg

TheKingpin28

February 5th, 2017, 06:28 PM

So those hacks from Hamilton found a way to ruin America The Beautiful. Leave the damn song the way it was written and do not add words to fit your ****ing god damn agenda! These ****ing hacks and their PC attitude.

JSUSoutherner

February 5th, 2017, 10:26 PM

The Falcons now own the greatest choke in NFL history.

BisonTru

February 5th, 2017, 10:58 PM

Wow.......

That was uglyly. To all the falcons fans ... I'm sorry. To all the patriots fans.... **** off. :D

Bisonator

February 5th, 2017, 11:25 PM

Wow Atlanta choked harder then the Vikes on that one. Oof

Mattymc727

February 5th, 2017, 11:46 PM

GOAT!!!!

JayJ79

February 6th, 2017, 12:10 AM

Atlanta's second half was UNI-esque

ALPHAGRIZ1

February 6th, 2017, 01:12 AM

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16425906_378168369225386_123353031580580892_n.jpg? oh=54bb43b00bf08a619dee5771d2b221ee&oe=5900A166

Bisonoline

February 6th, 2017, 02:45 AM

All the birds had to do was run the ball 3 times and kick the field goal. I swear our OC Polesek must have been calling the plays.

PaladinFan

February 6th, 2017, 06:01 AM

All the birds had to do was run the ball 3 times and kick the field goal. I swear our OC Polesek must have been calling the plays.

Everything went right for the Patriots in the fourth quarter. My concern the entire second half was that Atlanta would go too conservative with a lead, which has never really been their game.

At the end of the day, Atlanta needed to make one play in the fourth quarter and couldn't get it done.

BisonBacker

February 6th, 2017, 09:11 AM

All the birds had to do was run the ball 3 times and kick the field goal. I swear our OC Polesek must have been calling the plays.

That was the most dumbfounding part of the entire game. Atlanta had it won. Their field goal kicker as I heard was like 30 for 31 on field goals or some such number anyway. He'd only missed one field goal all season. Idiotic coaching lost them that super bowl.

Mattymc727

February 6th, 2017, 10:19 AM

PaladinFan

February 6th, 2017, 10:55 AM

Cant really comprehend that second half without rewatching it at this point. Seemed to me that it was a combo of Tom being legendary and the falcons defense being gassed. The Falcons really stumbled not scoring a single point after 28...

That Edelman catch was the point i knew the Pats were somehow going to win. Usually those plays happen against the Patriots in the SB.

Id imagine Atlanta feels like Pats fans did after the 07 SB. The Falcons are a great team and they will certainly be back. Just a real tough lesson to learn on the big stage.

Is Brady on par with Michael Jordan or do you guys seperate the two? 5-2 in SBs and countless playoff wins is just unbelievable!

Not comparable, in my opinion. This was Boston's 38th major sports championship. Atlanta has 1. While the 2007 Superbowl was certainly difficult, I'm sure, its not like Patriots fans haven't had 7 others to enjoy over the last ten or 15 years.

This was Atlanta's second visit to the Super Bowl in 51 years. For 3 quarters they had the Patriots completely on the ropes and Tom Brady completely rattled. For whatever reason, the wheels just came off in the fourth quarter.

PaladinFan

February 6th, 2017, 10:58 AM

That was the most dumbfounding part of the entire game. Atlanta had it won. Their field goal kicker as I heard was like 30 for 31 on field goals or some such number anyway. He'd only missed one field goal all season. Idiotic coaching lost them that super bowl.

I would take Matt Bryant over any kicker in the league. Even after the sack, the field goal was still within his range. Dan Quinn has often said he'd give Bryant a shot from anything inside of 60. The holding penalty, though, was too much to overcome.

Its easy to second guess the coach after things go badly.

JSUSoutherner

February 6th, 2017, 11:32 AM

All the birds had to do was run the ball 3 times and kick the field goal. I swear our OC Polesek must have been calling the plays.
This. They had easy field goal range and they blew it. The Pats had no answer for Devonta Freeman. I think they may have asked Pete Caroll to call the offense there.

clenz

February 6th, 2017, 11:37 AM

Farley coaches Atlanta for the second half.

Also, the 10 year old crying me from the Vikings blowing it against the Falcons in 1998 loves this....

PaladinFan

February 6th, 2017, 11:44 AM

Farley coaches Atlanta for the second half.

Also, the 10 year old crying me from the Vikings blowing it against the Falcons in 1998 loves this....

That was repayment for Kent Hrbeck and Dan Gladden. Debt's already been paid.

clenz

February 6th, 2017, 11:58 AM

That was repayment for Kent Hrbeck and Dan Gladden. Debt's already been paid.
Hrbeck did nothing wrong.

PaladinFan

February 6th, 2017, 12:42 PM

Hrbeck did nothing wrong.

See, that's the attitude that gets you beat by Morten Andersen.

I imagine that if you polled the nation, everyone outside of Minnesota would say that Kent Hrbek pulled Ron Gant off of first base. He may not have done it intentionally, but he outweighed Gant by 100 pounds, and single-legged him off the bag. You cannot forcibly move a player off an occupied base.

clenz

February 6th, 2017, 12:46 PM

See, that's the attitude that gets you beat by Morten Andersen.

I imagine that if you polled the nation, everyone outside of Minnesota would say that Kent Hrbek pulled Ron Gant off of first base. He may not have done it intentionally, but he outweighed Gant by 100 pounds, and single-legged him off the bag. You cannot forcibly move a player off an occupied base.
I've never lived in Minnesota.

Hrbeck did nothing wrong.

Not Hrbeck's fault that Gant isn't capable of maintaining balance.

Bisonator

February 6th, 2017, 01:01 PM

See, that's the attitude that gets you beat by Morten Andersen.

I imagine that if you polled the nation, everyone outside of Minnesota would say that Kent Hrbek pulled Ron Gant off of first base. He may not have done it intentionally, but he outweighed Gant by 100 pounds, and single-legged him off the bag. You cannot forcibly move a player off an occupied base.
I'm from outside Minnesota and Gant's momentum forced him off the bag. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!;)

BisonBacker

February 6th, 2017, 01:10 PM

I'm from within Minnesota and Hrbeck did nothing wrong :D

clenz

February 6th, 2017, 03:17 PM

Now, the house I grew up in was 10.8 miles, straight line, from the MN boarder.

My dad's family is from Minnesota, and he lived in Minnesota until he was 33.

I did spend a week in 1996 at my grandmothers house in Minnesota.

We had kids that lived in Minnesota go to my high school because our school district actually went about a quarter mile into Minnesota.

However, I have never lived in Minnesota

ALPHAGRIZ1

February 6th, 2017, 04:08 PM

Gant was shoved everyone knows it

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PaladinFan

February 6th, 2017, 04:20 PM

Gant was shoved everyone knows it

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I still think it was a textbook single leg takedown. Gant and Hrbek aren't in the same weight class, though.

clenz

February 6th, 2017, 04:55 PM

I still think it was a textbook single leg takedown. Gant and Hrbek aren't in the same weight class, though.
Gant's weight carried Hrbeck back, and to the right.

Gant pinned Hrbecks right hand between Gant's thigh and Hrbecks body. Hrbeck was behind the bag. Gant couldn't slow down in time and took Hrbeck with him.

PaladinFan

February 6th, 2017, 08:30 PM

Gant's weight carried Hrbeck back, and to the right.

Gant pinned Hrbecks right hand between Gant's thigh and Hrbecks body. Hrbeck was behind the bag. Gant couldn't slow down in time and took Hrbeck with him.

Nonsense. Gant "couldn't slow down" because Hrbek yanked him to Edina. The base is Gant's not Hrbek's.

Virtually the entire baseball world considers that a bad call.

Surprisingly, probably not the worst call in Braves' post season history, which goes to that moron that called an infield fly 200 feet from home plate.

I could also throw in Eric Gregg's monumental strike zone in 1997 NLCS where Livan Hernandez was throwing lollipop curves in the opposite batters box called for strikes.

Come to think of it, Atlanta has been pretty well shafted in the MLB post season

Laker

February 7th, 2017, 09:05 AM

Now, the house I grew up in was 10.8 miles, straight line, from the MN boarder.

I taught one year at Lakota, IA- nines miles south of MN. Also remember coaching against Emmons, MN when I was at Freeborn. A gas station had MN on one side of the roof and Iowa on the other side since it was right on the border.

clenz

February 7th, 2017, 09:12 AM

I taught one year at Lakota, IA- nines miles south of MN. Also remember coaching against Emmons, MN when I was at Freeborn. A gas station had MN on one side of the roof and Iowa on the other side since it was right on the border.
How'd they handle beer sales?

Minnesota can buy on Sundays, but us heathens in Iowa can.

When I was in high school the state of Iowa opened up the ability for us boarder schools to play out of state opponents. We played Ellsworth my freshman-senior years. I think I've seen my HS play Hills Beaver Creek, Adrian, Luvurne out of MN and Harrisburg and Tea out of South Dakota.

I think Ellsworth was actually our shortest road game when I was in HS. 13.2 miles between the two high schools. It was 3 turns from our HS to theirs. About a quarter mile mile or so west from our HS front door then turn north onto the main N/S highway out of town. Take that 6ish miles. Turn west for 1 mile. Turn north and go about 4.5-4.7 miles north and the Ellsworth HS is right on the high way in town.

Our closest conference rival was 14.8 miles

Laker

February 7th, 2017, 10:26 AM

How'd they handle beer sales?

Minnesota can buy on Sundays, but us heathens in Iowa can.

When I was in high school the state of Iowa opened up the ability for us boarder schools to play out of state opponents. We played Ellsworth my freshman-senior years. I think I've seen my HS play Hills Beaver Creek, Adrian, Luvurne out of MN and Harrisburg and Tea out of South Dakota.

I think Ellsworth was actually our shortest road game when I was in HS. 13.2 miles between the two high schools. It was 3 turns from our HS to theirs. About a quarter mile mile or so west from our HS front door then turn north onto the main N/S highway out of town. Take that 6ish miles. Turn west for 1 mile. Turn north and go about 4.5-4.7 miles north and the Ellsworth HS is right on the high way in town.

Our closest conference rival was 14.8 miles

The Sunday liquor sales bill is in the legislature again, but this year it will probably pass. Republicans are in favor, Democrats against.

Ever hear of the Schilling boys from Ellsworth? They played at Augustana in Sioux Falls. Now they are officiating.

http://www.dglobe.com/sports/4213219-earning-their-stripes-former-ellsworth-high-school-superstars-curt-and-casey#.WJnSKs6cRrs.twitter

clenz

February 7th, 2017, 10:36 AM

The Sunday liquor sales bill is in the legislature again, but this year it will probably pass. Republicans are in favor, Democrats against.

Ever hear of the Schilling boys from Ellsworth? They played at Augustana in Sioux Falls. Now they are officiating.

http://www.dglobe.com/sports/4213219-earning-their-stripes-former-ellsworth-high-school-superstars-curt-and-casey#.WJnSKs6cRrs.twitter
Played against them. They are a bit of "legends" in the area. I haven't looked recently, but last I new Curt was coaching and the AD at my high school.

For having never played before about 2002 those games were really, really, heated. Mostly because they had the Schillings and we have Tyler Fluth, and a few others that were pretty damn good. Those games were testy as hell. They blew us out the very first time - Curt Schilling's SR year. Then we boat raced them a few times when Schilling the younger went through

clenz

February 7th, 2017, 11:36 AM

The Sunday liquor sales should happen. I listen to KFAN out of MPLS and they talk about it quite a bit.

Sounds like it may not pass the house based on the last few days, but the gov can/will still approve it.

ElCid

February 8th, 2017, 10:54 AM

I meant to post this earlier. It is sort of freaky. This is absolutely on the level and true and I took this snip from my brother's Facebook page. Notice the date....it was on Saturday. He has been inundated with calls for lottery numbers ever since Sunday night.

Anyone can say they had a dream, after the fact, but he posted it before the fact, by a whole day. Weird.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24550&stc=1