2016 NFL Draft (FCS players)

[BisonTru]

Way too early but here is one 7 round mock from http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2613603-2016-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-super-bowl-predictions/page/38


Round 1
2. Cleveland Browns---Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers---Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky
Round 3
69. Jacksonville Jaguars—Harlan Miller, CB, SE Louisiana
Round 4
112. Atlanta Falcons—Cole Toner, OL, Harvard
113. Indianapolis Colts—Miles Killebrew, SS, Southern Utah
Round 6
168. Washington—James Cowser, EDGE, Southern Utah
171. Los Angeles Rams—Deiondre' Hall, CB, Northern Iowa
181. Green Bay Packers—Joe Haeg, T, North Dakota State
Round 7
200. Chicago Bears—James Bradberry, CB, Samford
206. Atlanta Falcons—DeAndre Houston-Carson, CB, William & Mary

Notable omissions: Paul McRoberts (SEMO), Victor Ochi (Stony Brook), Tyrone Holmes (Montana)

[FargoBison]

Have two FCS players ever gone in the top 10?

[BisonFan02]

Haeg in round #6 is a steal for Green Bay....and they need a bunch like him.

[clenz]

Haeg in round #6 is a steal for Green Bay....and they need a bunch like him.
I wouldn't mind seeing him land in Minnesota

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I think UNI's Hall will go higher than round 6.

[clenz]

I think UNI's Hall will go higher than round 6.
I see many places have him in the 2nd or 3rd.

A good showing at the combine, with his measurements, could really shoot him up a lot of teams boards.

I think he could be the highest drafted Panther ever...which would be the highest MVFC player ever drafted, but Wentz and what not

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I see many places have him in the 2nd or 3rd.

A good showing at the combine, with his measurements, could really shoot him up a lot of teams boards.

I think he could be the highest drafted Panther ever...which would be the highest MVFC player ever drafted, but Wentz and what not


He had a good week at the Senior Bowl. I watched some of the practices and he did a good job. Man, does he have long arms, plus he has some "swagger" to him.

[BisonTru]

https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/10-fcs-takeaways-from-postseason-all-star-games-021016&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoTMTM2MTc1MTUzMDIwNjMxOTk1MzIaOTc2NTQyMWM 3NDEzOWU0Zjpjb206ZW46VVM&usg=AFQjCNGOs4SXPlJasw3VNiXKto74sXA-Ng

[smallcollegefbfan]

Way too early but here is one 7 round mock from http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2613603-2016-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-post-super-bowl-predictions/page/38


Round 1
2. Cleveland Browns---Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers---Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky
Round 3
69. Jacksonville Jaguars—Harlan Miller, CB, SE Louisiana
Round 4
112. Atlanta Falcons—Cole Toner, OL, Harvard
113. Indianapolis Colts—Miles Killebrew, SS, Southern Utah
Round 6
168. Washington—James Cowser, EDGE, Southern Utah
171. Los Angeles Rams—Deiondre' Hall, CB, Northern Iowa
181. Green Bay Packers—Joe Haeg, T, North Dakota State
Round 7
200. Chicago Bears—James Bradberry, CB, Samford
206. Atlanta Falcons—DeAndre Houston-Carson, CB, William & Mary

Notable omissions: Paul McRoberts (SEMO), Victor Ochi (Stony Brook), Tyrone Holmes (Montana)

I would not take Spence in the first with his off field past. 2nd round would be high point for me personally and I don't know him well enough off the field to say if I would take him for sure or not.

The others on there I could see outside of DHC and Killebrew lasting that long. DHC will be gone by end of 4th round and Killebrew will be gone by end of 3rd, I think.

I also think UNI's Hall is gone way before that.

Holmes and McRoberts may not get drafted. I would be surprised if either goes higher than 7th round.

Ochi should be gone by end of 6th round. He may sneak into 4th round if he has a good combine.

Notable omissions: Harvard TE Ben Braunecker, SC State TE Temarrick Hemingway, SC State DT Javon Hargrave, and Southern Utah CB Leshaun Sims all should and will get drafted, in my opinion.

Not to mention we can expect 2-3 names off the beaten path who could sneak in.

Some names to consider are Liberty's Josh Woodrum, UNI's Makinton Dorleant, Incarnate Word LB Myke Tavarres, Montana WR Jamaal Jones, Villanova LB Don Cherry, W&M LB Luke Rhodes, and Montana State TE Beau Sandland.

Two names not getting any draft buzz who could also get taken are Richmond OT Nick Ritcher and Maine LB Trevor Bates.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I see many places have him in the 2nd or 3rd.

A good showing at the combine, with his measurements, could really shoot him up a lot of teams boards.

I think he could be the highest drafted Panther ever...which would be the highest MVFC player ever drafted, but Wentz and what not

Hall is in the 3rd or 4th round on several NFL boards right now. I'm not sure he lasts to the 6th round unless he just stinks up the combine.

I have him as a 5th-6th round value as a S right now but I see him going much higher because of special teams and the ability to play both S and CB. People have to take that stuff into consideration. They may see him as a late round safety but do they have length, can they play multiple positions, and is there special teams value there? The answer is yes with Hall.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Anyone notice McMakin did not get a combine invite? Regardless of what he does in camp his NFL stock was not high enough to warrant coming out early. I hope there is a situation in which he had to leave and not one of him thinking he is a top 100 pick. I would be surprised if he gets drafted unless he is a pro day freak.

[BisonTru]

Combine Invites
Big Sky
DE James Cowser - Southern Utah
SS Miles Killebrew - Southern Utah
TE Beau Sandland - Montana St
CB LeShaun Sims - Southern Utah

Big South
K John Lunsford - Liberty
QB Josh Woodrum - Liberty

CAA
S DeAndre Houston-Carson - William & Mary
DE Victor Oshi - Stony Brook

Ivy
TE Ben Braunecker - Harvard
OT Cole Toner - Harvard

MEAC
DT Javon Hargrave - South Carolina St
TE Temarrick Hemingway - South Carolina St
CB Ryan Smith - North Carolina Central

MVFC
RB Marshaun Coprich - Illinois St
OT Joe Haeg - North Dakota St
CB Deiondre Hall - Northern Iowa
QB Carson Wentz - North Dakota St

OVC
DT DeVaunte Sigler - Jacksonville St
DE Noah Spence - Eastern Kentucky

Southern
CB James Bradberry - Samford

Southland
P Lac Edwards - Sam Houston St
CB Harlan Miller - Southeastern Louisiana

[BisonTru]

Here's Josh's Small School Top 200 from draftcountdown.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/josh-buchanans-2016-small-school-rankings/

Here's a podcast with Josh on his rankings.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/podcast/josh-buchanans-debut-sleeper-rankings/

[BEAR]

Not sure what would be considered a good vertical jump but glad to see college players from the FCS at regional combines!

NFL Draft Blitz ‏@NFLDraftBlitz (https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBlitz) Feb 21 (https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBlitz/status/701561459600465924)
DE Jonathan Woodard (Central Arkansas) had a 35-inch vertical jump at the Arizona Regional Combine. He is a player of interest for me.

Top Vertical Jump by Position @NFLRegCom (https://twitter.com/NFLRegCom)
CB-Daniel Davie (Nebraska) 38
LB-Don Carter (New Mexico) 38
DL-Jonathan Woodard (Central Ak)- 35

[andthehomeofthe-BIZON-]

Haeg is crushing it IMO. Top 10 in every category so far. Much excite!

[BisonFan02]

Haeg is crushing it IMO. Top 10 in every category so far. Much excite!

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/joe-haeg?id=2555371

He sure did...I definitely don't think he hurt himself. Time will tell to see how good of a pro he can become....could be a good value grab late.

[andthehomeofthe-BIZON-]

Interesting that he outperformed Billy Turner in almost every aspect.

Copied and pasted from Bisonville
40: JH 5.16s , BT 5.16s
Bench: JH n/a, BT 25 reps
Broad Jump: JH 9'-3" , BT 9'-0"
3 Cone: JH 7.47s , BT 7.92s
20 yd shuttle: JH 4.47s , BT 4.71s

[BisonFan02]

Interesting that he outperformed Billy Turner in almost every aspect.

Copied and pasted from Bisonville
40: JH 5.16s , BT 5.16s
Bench: JH n/a, BT 25 reps
Broad Jump: JH 9'-3" , BT 9'-0"
3 Cone: JH 7.47s , BT 7.92s
20 yd shuttle: JH 4.47s , BT 4.71s

Yeah...but Turner also made the move to guard. I don't see Haeg making that same jump. I think I would rather see him put on a pound or two and play RT. Gotta get mean too like Turner.

[BisonFan02]

Vernon Adams....4.83
Carson Wentz....4.78

Huh? xlolx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Vernon Adams....4.83
Carson Wentz....4.78

Huh? xlolx


Post that on Emory's site.....xlolx

[BisonFan02]

Post that on Emory's site.....xlolx

I'll wait till I see what Dalyn Williams runs.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I'll wait till I see what Dalyn Williams runs.


That guy is barely 200 lbs, he probably is pretty fast.....but it would be epic if CW is faster than his #2 rated guy...xlolx

[BisonFan02]

That guy is barely 200 lbs, he probably is pretty fast.....but it would be epic if CW is faster than his #2 rated guy...xlolx

We'll see........ xlolx

[andthehomeofthe-BIZON-]

After today's Wentz orgy I'm shocked we don't have more "opinions" here. Where is em to tell us how awful Carson is??

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

After today's Wentz orgy I'm shocked we don't have more "opinions" here. Where is em to tell us how awful Carson is??


He'll never come on here and try to rationalize why he has him #12 below some really laughable picks. He'll keep going back to his "Russell Wilson" pick and how he got that right but not tell you the hundreds of busts he has called over the years.

Cardale Jones #1 in his mind....xlolx

Goff and CW separated themselves from the other QBs IMO. Both will go in the top-10. But I guess CW is a 4th round prospect according to Em....xrolleyesx, I guess all the other scouts and analysts have no clue what they are talking about.

[bjtheflamesfan]

I didn't get to see the QBs work because I was traveling, but what Im hearing is Josh Woodrum comported himself very well among the QBs and has been doing well as one of the "throwing QBs" (which Wentz is not) for the combine. While I don't think he put himself in the top third of the draft, he certainly made his a name that will be on plenty of draft boards among teams looking for a QB.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I didn't get to see the QBs work because I was traveling, but what Im hearing is Josh Woodrum comported himself very well among the QBs and has been doing well as one of the "throwing QBs" (which Wentz is not) for the combine. While I don't think he put himself in the top third of the draft, he certainly made his a name that will be on plenty of draft boards among teams looking for a QB.


Wentz is not a "throwing QB"?

Explain that one to me. He broke from a huddle and played behind the center. Played in a west coast system. Called the OL protection at the line. He is a good runner but not a running QB that can throw it.

[BisonFan02]

Wentz is not a "throwing QB"?

Explain that one to me. He broke from a huddle and played behind the center. Played in a west coast system. Called the OL protection at the line. He is a good runner but not a running QB that can throw it.

Someone can correct me, but "throwing QB" for the combine is a guy that has to hang around and throw more for drills, etc than the top prospects do.

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Did the "throwing QBs" have to do drills for the RBs too? I didn't notice on Friday.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Someone can correct me, but "throwing QB" for the combine is a guy that has to hang around and throw more for drills, etc than the top prospects do.

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Did the "throwing QBs" have to do drills for the RBs too? I didn't notice on Friday.



That could be.

Em did answer me on his youtube post about CW.

[bjtheflamesfan]

Someone can correct me, but "throwing QB" for the combine has to hang around and throw more for drills, etc than the top prospects do.

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Did the "throwing QBs" have to do drills for the RBs too? I didn't notice on Friday.

You are correct BisonFan. JW was one of three throwing QBs for all the players who have catching or pass defense drills.

[BisonFan02]

You are correct BisonFan. JW was one of three throwing QBs for all the players who have catching or pass defense drills.

That's what I thought....I know I saw Woodrum and Adams throwing to the TEs to finish on Saturday but wasn't sure about RBs. Who was the 3rd throwing QB?

[BisonFan02]

That could be.

Em did answer me on his youtube post about CW.

#AwfulWhiteQBs

By the way....be careful calling them "Read Option" or "Dual Threat" QBs...that's apparently racist (according to @AwfulWhiteQBs)...even though both of them are exactly just that. xlolx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

#AwfulWhiteQBs

What is with that?

Does he have a site on this?


He still doesn't answer my questions on defending his analysis....

[BisonFan02]

What is with that?

Does he have a site on this?


He still doesn't answer my questions on defending his analysis....

https://twitter.com/AwfulWhiteQBs

He follows that twitter account and the above twitter account has a habit of retweeting Em's material.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

https://twitter.com/AwfulWhiteQBs

He follows that twitter account and the above twitter account has a habit of retweeting Em's material.


Oh...thanks....makes sense!!


Geez......just skimmed thru that site.....wow, anyone actually follow that?

What a joke.

[BisonFan02]

Oh...thanks....makes sense!!


Geez......just skimmed thru that site.....wow, anyone actually follow that?

What a joke.

B Halvorson‏@BHalvorson (https://twitter.com/BHalvorson)
@AwfulWhiteQBs (https://twitter.com/AwfulWhiteQBs) @FBallGameplan (https://twitter.com/FBallGameplan) Do you guys know each other or just follow each other?

Awful White QBs ‏@AwfulWhiteQBs (https://twitter.com/AwfulWhiteQBs)
@BHalvorson (https://twitter.com/BHalvorson) @FBallGameplan (https://twitter.com/FBallGameplan) Just a fan of their work. Nothing else like it as far as scouting media is concerned.

B Halvorson ‏@BHalvorson (https://twitter.com/BHalvorson) Feb 18 (https://twitter.com/BHalvorson/status/700199120741363712)
@AwfulWhiteQBs (https://twitter.com/AwfulWhiteQBs) @FBallGameplan (https://twitter.com/FBallGameplan) Won't argue with you there...its unique.

[BisonFan02]

Awful White QBs ‏@AwfulWhiteQBs (https://twitter.com/AwfulWhiteQBs) Feb 25 (https://twitter.com/AwfulWhiteQBs/status/702952097382162432)
Are Joel Stave and Josh Woodrum just at the #NFLCombine (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash) to make Wentz & Goff look more like standout talents? #WheresDalyn (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WheresDalyn?src=hash) #WheresMarquise (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WheresMarquise?src=hash)

[smallcollegefbfan]

Awful White QBs ‏@AwfulWhiteQBs (https://twitter.com/AwfulWhiteQBs) Feb 25 (https://twitter.com/AwfulWhiteQBs/status/702952097382162432)
Are Joel Stave and Josh Woodrum just at the #NFLCombine (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash) to make Wentz & Goff look more like standout talents? #WheresDalyn (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WheresDalyn?src=hash) #WheresMarquise (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WheresMarquise?src=hash)


Dalyn and Marquise are just camp bodies. It is funny how some of the best minds in the NFL don't pick players and these guys who have accomplished and know nothing call out proven NFL people on players. They then complain and say those guys didn't get a fair shot. Those guys got looks and were clearly not good enough or they would make rosters. Same thing will likely happen again this year and next year and so on. lol

[andthehomeofthe-BIZON-]

I didn't get to see the QBs work because I was traveling, but what Im hearing is Josh Woodrum comported himself very well among the QBs and has been doing well as one of the "throwing QBs" (which Wentz is not) for the combine. While I don't think he put himself in the top third of the draft, he certainly made his a name that will be on plenty of draft boards among teams looking for a QB.

I thought he looked solid the whole day. Didn't really stick out in a good or bad way, Just solid.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I didn't get to see the QBs work because I was traveling, but what Im hearing is Josh Woodrum comported himself very well among the QBs and has been doing well as one of the "throwing QBs" (which Wentz is not) for the combine. While I don't think he put himself in the top third of the draft, he certainly made his a name that will be on plenty of draft boards among teams looking for a QB.

He did okay. Woodrum timed well in one of the drills but as far as his throws and everything else he was average.

Throwing QBs are the last ones invited. You will never see a top tier QB listed as a "throwing QB for drills".

[smallcollegefbfan]

Wentz is not a "throwing QB"?

Explain that one to me. He broke from a huddle and played behind the center. Played in a west coast system. Called the OL protection at the line. He is a good runner but not a running QB that can throw it.

What we call a throwing QB is someone who isn't just there for QB workouts and is used to throw to all the other positions. They are usually the lowest in votes for the event, which typically means they are the lowest rated among the group.

[BisonFan02]

What we call a throwing QB is someone who isn't just there for QB workouts and is used to throw to all the other positions. They are usually the lowest in votes for the event, which typically means they are the lowest rated among the group.

Noted above. Who were the throwing QBs this year outside Woodrum and Adams? (I guess there was a third?)

[smallcollegefbfan]

Noted above. Who were the throwing QBs this year outside Woodrum and Adams? (I guess there was a third?)

I just saw that post after replying. Sorry about that!

Stave from Wisconsin was the other.

[BisonFan02]

I just saw that post after replying. Sorry about that!

Stave from Wisconsin was the other.

Haha, no problem man. I was more curious about who the third QB was. So that satirical twitter account (I hope anyway) cherry picked two "awful white" throwing QBs to whine about Dalyn and Marquise not getting invited....typical. xlolx

[smallcollegefbfan]

Haha, no problem man. I was more curious about who the third QB was. So that satirical twitter account (I hope anyway) cherry picked two "awful white" throwing QBs to whine about Dalyn and Marquise not getting invited....typical. xlolx

There is not much love in scouting circles for those two. When you are an All-ACC player and don't get a NFL Combine invite you are probably at best a 7th round pick. Williams was clearly on the NFL radar big time so the fact they passed had nothing to do with him flying under the radar. I wish him luck in proving scouts wrong but if his film was as good as you would think on paper, then he would have gotten an invite.

[BEAR]

Just got back from UCA's pro day.

Got these stats from various people in attendance and some of the timers. These are all unofficial.

DE Jonathan Woodard. 6'65" 271

40 time: 4.87
Vertical: 35 inches
225lb reps: 28 (had 2 more disqualified for raising his @ss xlolx )
Hands: +10 (not sure what that means or if its correct but I've shook his hand before and they are massive and long. What you'd expect from a 6/7" guy. )

He looked lean and strong in the upper body. Even more so than during football season.

Side observations:

After he ran the forty the large group of guys timing him all said, "wooo" in unison. xlolx

Former UCA CB/DB Dillon Winfrey most likely ran a 4.3 or faster. He's 5'8" and just amazingly fast. However I'm sure that height won't help his cause.

From March 1-
Sports Thread UCA ‏@SportsThreadUCA (https://twitter.com/SportsThreadUCA) Mar 1 (https://twitter.com/SportsThreadUCA/status/704713521875935232)
Good luck to @UCA_Football (https://twitter.com/UCA_Football) DB Dillon Winfrey who ran a 4.26! Will perform WR/CB at pro day http://tobtr.com/s/8342343 (https://t.co/fzxwrjqtBn)

For Woodard earlier:

Chris Cabott ‏@chriscabott (https://twitter.com/chriscabott) Feb 24 (https://twitter.com/chriscabott/status/702657581882462208)
Chris Cabott Retweeted NFL Draft Diamonds
@Woodro_96 (https://twitter.com/Woodro_96) jumped 9'11" and 36" at the NFL regional. More great results to come at UCA pro day on 3/17.

Chris Cabott added,
NFL Draft Diamonds @DraftDiamonds@leighsteinberg One player who is not getting the love he deserves is Jonathan Woodard your client. I am shocked to be honest

[smallcollegefbfan]

Just got back from UCA's pro day.

Got these stats from various people in attendance and some of the timers. These are all unofficial.

DE Jonathan Woodard. 6'65" 271

40 time: 4.87
Vertical: 35 inches
225lb reps: 28 (had 2 more disqualified for raising his @ss xlolx )
Hands: +10 (not sure what that means or if its correct but I've shook his hand before and they are massive and long. What you'd expect from a 6/7" guy. )

He looked lean and strong in the upper body. Even more so than during football season.

Side observations:

After he ran the forty the large group of guys timing him all said, "wooo" in unison. xlolx

Former UCA CB/DB Dillon Winfrey most likely ran a 4.3 or faster. He's 5'8" and just amazingly fast. However I'm sure that height won't help his cause.

From March 1-
Sports Thread UCA ‏@SportsThreadUCA (https://twitter.com/SportsThreadUCA) Mar 1 (https://twitter.com/SportsThreadUCA/status/704713521875935232)
Good luck to @UCA_Football (https://twitter.com/UCA_Football) DB Dillon Winfrey who ran a 4.26! Will perform WR/CB at pro day http://tobtr.com/s/8342343 (https://t.co/fzxwrjqtBn)

For Woodard earlier:

Chris Cabott ‏@chriscabott (https://twitter.com/chriscabott) Feb 24 (https://twitter.com/chriscabott/status/702657581882462208)
Chris Cabott Retweeted NFL Draft Diamonds
@Woodro_96 (https://twitter.com/Woodro_96) jumped 9'11" and 36" at the NFL regional. More great results to come at UCA pro day on 3/17.

Chris Cabott added,
NFL Draft Diamonds @DraftDiamonds@leighsteinberg One player who is not getting the love he deserves is Jonathan Woodard your client. I am shocked to be honest







Draft Diamonds hypes everyone. I'm not sure they have ever said something bad about a player LOL.

I had him as a 4.90 estimate during the season. Hopefully his 10-yard is good and that 40 is a 4.8 across the board when the clubs turn in official numbers. It looks like a good workout that should boost him from a FA to a guy who will be a PFA at the top of the backboard in war rooms.

It may be a couple weeks because I usually get the results from all pro days at the same time and I'll post his full official results if you want me to.

[BEAR]

Draft Diamonds hypes everyone. I'm not sure they have ever said something bad about a player LOL.

As for Woodard, he did not have a good senior year. Once I get the pro day results if they are indeed good that should make him a PFA but he was getting low FA grades from most scouts during the fall.

It may be a couple weeks because I usually get the results from all pro days at the same time and I'll post his full official results if you want me to.

That would be great thanks! I was standing next to his family the whole time the numbers were coming in. But like I said those were unofficial times and he should go either 7th or PFA..but he will be picked up for a camp somewhere.

Winfrey though...the speed.

[smallcollegefbfan]

That would be great thanks! I was standing next to his family the whole time the numbers were coming in. But like I said those were unofficial times and he should go either 7th or PFA..but he will be picked up for a camp somewhere.

Winfrey though...the speed.

I don't think he has much of a shot to get drafted unless he somehow gets some visits and private workouts with a few teams and does really well on those. His senior year tape just wasn't draftable. I'm just trying to be honest about him. I like him more than most NFL people do and I don't have him in the draft.

Winfrey can fly and that's expected but yeah being undersized hurt him.

[BEAR]

Found his pro day numbers. Some of them lower than his Arizona numbers.

#UCA (https://twitter.com/hashtag/UCA?src=hash) DE Jonathan Woodard Pro Day Numbers:
Bench: 28 reps
Vert: 34
Broad: 9'9"
3 cone(L drill): 7.09
Shuttle: 4.4
40: 4.8


NFL Draft Diamonds ‏@DraftDiamonds (https://twitter.com/DraftDiamonds) 20h20 hours ago (https://twitter.com/DraftDiamonds/status/710570477455056897)
#UCA (https://twitter.com/hashtag/UCA?src=hash) Dillion Winfrey Pro Day #'s
Official 4.33 3 scouts had 4.2
10'10 broad
4.18 shuttle
39 vertical
17 BP

[smallcollegefbfan]

Found his pro day numbers. Some of them lower than his Arizona numbers.

#UCA (https://twitter.com/hashtag/UCA?src=hash) DE Jonathan Woodard Pro Day Numbers:
Bench: 28 reps
Vert: 34
Broad: 9'9"
3 cone(L drill): 7.09
Shuttle: 4.4
40: 4.8


NFL Draft Diamonds ‏@DraftDiamonds (https://twitter.com/DraftDiamonds) 20h20 hours ago (https://twitter.com/DraftDiamonds/status/710570477455056897)
#UCA (https://twitter.com/hashtag/UCA?src=hash) Dillion Winfrey Pro Day #'s
Official 4.33 3 scouts had 4.2
10'10 broad
4.18 shuttle
39 vertical
17 BP


Let's wait to see what Gil Brandt and CBS reports and I'll post what I get from APT. I don't take pro day results as official unless it is APT results and that's what they tend to report. Those numbers may be accurate but they also may just be times from an agent. Agents do tend to skew the numbers a bit to make their client look even better. Hopefully those numbers do hold and turn out to be official.

Woodard doesn't play with a high motor and is a bit stiff. I just don't see him getting drafted with the film he put out as a senior.

[BEAR]

Let's wait to see what Gil Brandt and CBS reports and I'll post what I get from APT. I don't take pro day results as official unless it is APT results and that's what they tend to report. Those numbers may be accurate but they also may just be times from an agent. Agents do tend to skew the numbers a bit to make their client look even better. Hopefully those numbers do hold and turn out to be official.

Woodard doesn't play with a high motor and is a bit stiff. I just don't see him getting drafted with the film he put out as a senior.

That's fair. His agent told me 4.87 in the forty..or was it 4.78...don't remember. Either way you can't say he won't be in a camp..even if it's fodder. xlolx

[smallcollegefbfan]

That's fair. His agent told me 4.87 in the forty..or was it 4.78...don't remember. Either way you can't say he won't be in a camp..even if it's fodder. xlolx

No question he gets in a camp. I would take him as a free agent in a heart beat.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Found his pro day numbers. Some of them lower than his Arizona numbers.

#UCA (https://twitter.com/hashtag/UCA?src=hash) DE Jonathan Woodard Pro Day Numbers:
Bench: 28 reps
Vert: 34
Broad: 9'9"
3 cone(L drill): 7.09
Shuttle: 4.4
40: 4.8


NFL Draft Diamonds ‏@DraftDiamonds (https://twitter.com/DraftDiamonds) 20h20 hours ago (https://twitter.com/DraftDiamonds/status/710570477455056897)
#UCA (https://twitter.com/hashtag/UCA?src=hash) Dillion Winfrey Pro Day #'s
Official 4.33 3 scouts had 4.2
10'10 broad
4.18 shuttle
39 vertical
17 BP


I talked to scouts and got the official times from the scouting service the NFL uses to disseminate pro day testing.

Woodard
6'4 7/8
271
4.88 and 4.89 40
9 1/2 hand
34 arm
82 3/8 wingspan
28 bench reps
1.69 10
2.76 20
34 VJ
9'9 BJ
4.40 SS
7.08 3-cone

Winfrey
5'6 5/8
172
4.37 and 4.39 40
17 bench reps
39 VJ
10'10 BJ

Those are the highlights for Winfrey.

As you can see, those websites embellished a little. Still a pretty good workout though. Winfrey ran high 4.3s instead of the low 4.3s and 4.2 that they reported.

Draft Diamonds tends to push much faster times and seems to be trying to work for agents. I wouldn't use them as a source. However, Chris is a good guy and tends to push realistic numbers and is very legit when he says a player will get drafted. I have had Chris tell me his player will get drafted in emails and they do. He usually doesn't say someone will get drafted and they don't unlike many other agents.

[BEAR]

Chris has an interesting tweet:
Chris Cabott ‏@chriscabott (https://twitter.com/chriscabott) Mar 17 (https://twitter.com/chriscabott/status/710584337054339072)
Proud of @Woodro_96 (https://twitter.com/Woodro_96). Did a great job today at the UCA pro day. Numbers mirror Joey Bosa - give or take - in every category. Next stop: #NFL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash)


So I thought I would look up the two and compare. Here's what I came up with: Make of it what you will.



Measurements

Bosa

Woodard



Height

6’5”

6’4”7/8



Weight

265

271



Arm Length

33 3/8

34



Hand Length

10 ¼

9 1/2



40 yard dash

4.86

4.88



Vertical

32

34



Broad Jump

10 ft

9’9”



3 Cone

6.89

7.08



Shuttle

4.21

4.4



225lb Bench Press

24

28 +2 disqualified



10 yard

1.69

1.69



20 yard

?

2.76



Off field

Problems

Masters degree in business



Competition

FBS

FCS

[clenz]

Chris has an interesting tweet:
Chris Cabott ‏@chriscabott (https://twitter.com/chriscabott) Mar 17 (https://twitter.com/chriscabott/status/710584337054339072)
Proud of @Woodro_96 (https://twitter.com/Woodro_96). Did a great job today at the UCA pro day. Numbers mirror Joey Bosa - give or take - in every category. Next stop: #NFL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash)


So I thought I would look up the two and compare. Here's what I came up with: Make of it what you will.



Measurements
Bosa
Woodard


Height
6’5”
6’4”7/8


Weight
265
271


Arm Length
33 3/8
34


Hand Length
10 ¼
9 1/2


40 yard dash
4.86
4.88


Vertical
32
34


Broad Jump
10 ft
9’9”


3 Cone
6.89
7.08


Shuttle
4.21
4.4


225lb Bench Press
24
28 +2 disqualified


10 yard
1.69
1.69


20 yard
?
2.76


Off field
Problems
Masters degree in business


Competition
FBS
FCS



If only measurable strength/speed numbers were what it was all about...

[smallcollegefbfan]

Chris has an interesting tweet:
Chris Cabott ‏@chriscabott (https://twitter.com/chriscabott) Mar 17 (https://twitter.com/chriscabott/status/710584337054339072)
Proud of @Woodro_96 (https://twitter.com/Woodro_96). Did a great job today at the UCA pro day. Numbers mirror Joey Bosa - give or take - in every category. Next stop: #NFL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash)


So I thought I would look up the two and compare. Here's what I came up with: Make of it what you will.



Measurements
Bosa
Woodard


Height
6’5”
6’4”7/8


Weight
265
271


Arm Length
33 3/8
34


Hand Length
10 ¼
9 1/2


40 yard dash
4.86
4.88


Vertical
32
34


Broad Jump
10 ft
9’9”


3 Cone
6.89
7.08


Shuttle
4.21
4.4


225lb Bench Press
24
28 +2 disqualified


10 yard
1.69
1.69


20 yard
?
2.76


Off field
Problems
Masters degree in business


Competition

FBS
FCS




I filled in some of the ones you missed or correct them for Bosa. They are close athletically but look at the additional row I added for film. That's the biggest difference. These workouts just answer questions. To be honest, a workout like this sounds an alarm for Woodard more than it should help him. It confirms what I could see on tape that he has ability (which is why I rated him as a high PFA) but his film is not very good. If I thought he was a poor tester I would have given him a very low FA grade. He did not improve as a senior and I could show tons of plays where he did absolutely nothing. You probably couldn't find 3 or 4 plays the whole year of Bosa where he just didn't give effort or anything... but could find 15 a game for Woodard in 2015.

Film is most important. Always remember that.

[smallcollegefbfan]

If only measurable strength/speed numbers were what it was all about...

Exactly.

You could argue that PJ Hall, Wallace Scot, Harlan Miller, Myke Tavarres, and Isaiah Golden all had a better year than Woodard.

For the record, I think Woodard has NFL talent but he will need to play a lot better than he did in 2015 for him to make a roster. Hopefully his hard work on doing well at pro day continues and he can make a NFL roster. I would expect at least 3 of those mentioned above to make it in the NFL.

[clenz]

UNI's pro day is today...

I'll post the extremely unofficial numbers here as I come across them. I believe they started at 6:30 AM...

20 NFL teams at the event

Makinton Dorleant
10 reps on bench
4.39 1st 40
4.37 2nd 40

Deiondre Hall
10 reps on bench
4.58 1st 40
4.64 2nd 40
Apparently extremely vocal in watch/cheer other guys on

Tim Kilfoy
20 reps on bench

Edwin Young
20 reps on bench

De'Angelo Jennings
19 reps on bench

Brett McMakin
did not bench

Savon Huggins
did not bench

Per the beat writer
"Lots of "nice!" and "good!" from scouts as Deiondre Hall and Makinton Dorleant run through positional drills."

[smallcollegefbfan]

UNI's pro day is today...

I'll post the extremely unofficial numbers here as I come across them. I believe they started at 6:30 AM...

20 NFL teams at the event

Makinton Dorleant
10 reps on bench
4.39 1st 40
4.37 2nd 40

Deiondre Hall
10 reps on bench
4.58 1st 40
4.64 2nd 40
Apparently extremely vocal in watch/cheer other guys on

Tim Kilfoy
20 reps on bench

Edwin Young
20 reps on bench

De'Angelo Jennings
19 reps on bench

Brett McMakin
did not bench

Savon Huggins
did not bench

Per the beat writer
"Lots of "nice!" and "good!" from scouts as Deiondre Hall and Makinton Dorleant run through positional drills."

I'll get the results on the others. From what I heard what you posted is pretty close. I know Gil Brandt posted times on Hall and Dorleant. I think Dorleant might have gotten himself drafted with his workout.. That 39 inch vertical and 4.35 official 40 only help.

[clenz]

I haven't seen the beat writers article with numbers yet but from what I gathered Dorleant got himself deafted, as you said, and Kilfoy worked his way into a camp spot

[smallcollegefbfan]

I haven't seen the beat writers article with numbers yet but from what I gathered Dorleant got himself deafted, as you said, and Kilfoy worked his way into a camp spot

Dorleant deserves to get drafted. I'm not sure if he will but he should.

[clenz]

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/college/football/uni-pro-day-hall-dorleant-shine-for-scouts-20160322
CEDAR FALLS — For what might have been the last time, at least a few people got to see Deiondre Hall and his big personality on display in Cedar Falls.
The outgoing senior and star defensive back for the Northern Iowa football team joined about a dozen of his former teammates at UNI’s annual Pro Day at the Cedar Valley Sportsplex on Tuesday morning. Hall, Makinton Dorleant and Tim Kilfoy stood out to scouts from 26 NFL teams through the various combine drills.
But, as usual, it was Hall who held court, and who took a step — possibly a couple — up the rung of NFL Draft consideration. He hung around, cheering on his compatriots and injecting life into a (very) early-morning test for the next level. He seemed at ease, and certainly was satisfied.
“I’m proud of myself. I did amazing at the Combine, minus that 40 stat, so I wanted to get back to work and get that 40 time back down; that was huge,” Hall said. “I did my part. I’m definitely feeling confident on that end.”
At the NFL Draft Combine, Hall placed top 15 among cornerbacks in four of the five drills in which he competed. His 10-foot-7-inch broad jump was fourth best, his 20-yard shuttle of 4.06 seconds was sixth, his 37-inch vertical jump was eighth and his 3-cone drill of 7.07 seconds was 14th.
It was his 40-yard dash of 4.68 seconds that he was most disappointed with, and most focused on coming into Pro Day. Hall got what he wanted, improving on some stopwatches by a full tenth of a second. Scouts had him anywhere from a 4.58 to 4.64, which is improvement he hoped to see.
Through conversations with scouts, he took away a lot from the Combine to use at Pro Day. Apart from getting the 40 time down, Hall said scouts mainly talked about not being so anxious and remaining positive on himself.
One of those, everyone knows certainly won’t be a problem. His position has a role in all that, though he’s open to anything.
“(The advice I got was) relax, that was the biggest thing,” Hall said. “It’s all about that self-talk. If you can talk yourself up and stay in a positive mind and positive attitude about things, even if it doesn’t go quite your way, that holds weight throughout your day.
“I feel more comfortable at corner, but I’m open to playing safety. Corner is definitely where I want to enter.”
Coach Mark Farley was there on Tuesday, and while he wasn’t in Hall’s ear barking those familiar orders, he was watching closely. The 16th-year head coach always gets a little wispy on Pro Day, wishing he could have the guys on display back for another year. But his pride in them surpasses that, he said.
He’s heard from scouts on Hall, Makinton Dorleant, Tim Kilfoy and Brett McMakin, and thought each did what they needed to Tuesday morning. Whether it’s Kilfoy and McMakin’s grit, Dorleant’s speed (hold that thought) or Hall’s personality, Farley loved what he saw.
Farley said Hall’s draft prospects might’ve got the bump he was hoping for over the last several weeks.
“They’re into the numbers, because that’s how they can measure themselves, but I’m more into the drills because that’s how coaches can measure,” Farley said. “I’ve only heard great things about him. I’ve heard a lot of third round stuff, some fifth round, and today I heard first round. I just know his position is very valuable, and very hard to find. His length is what stands out about him, and his talent.”




Much like last year, when David Johnson brought dozens of scouts to the Sportsplex, Hall’s teammates benefited from the extra eyeballs.
The guy who raised the most eyebrows by far was Makinton Dorleant, who elicited some whistles with his 40-yard dash. Scouts on hand had Dorleant anywhere from 4.33 to 4.39 seconds unofficially — which would’ve ranked between first and fourth at the NFL Combine among corners — for his 40, which is exactly what he told scouts he was going to do in all his conversations leading up.
He benched 225 pounds 16 times, which would’ve been 11th, and jumped 39 inches on his vertical jump, which would’ve put him fourth. Other numbers were unavailable, but Dorleant said he met his goals going in.
When drills and tests were done, Dorleant spent at least 20 minutes talking to a handful of scouts. He couldn’t contain his smile after a breakout performance.
“I think I left a good impression on all the scouts who came here, and that was my No. 1 goal,” Dorleant said. “The most important thing was to jump high and run fast, and I did both of those things.
“I can’t find the words right now; just happy I was able to do what I did today. I’m hoping it goes a long way for me, because I’ve been working for this all my life.”
What it means for Dorleant and the NFL Draft remains to be seen. At this point the discussion still lingers on an undrafted free agent deal being most likely, but with what he was able to show at Pro Day, the possibilities of being drafted certainly weren’t hurt.
Like Hall, Dorleant said the whole process has been eye-opening, and he’s learned a lot along the way.
And like everyone else, he just wants that one chance to prove himself.
“The preparation and all the testosterone that has to go into it (was most interesting),” Dorleant said of the whole process. “Just preparing for two months and having all the hard work; the downs you have during prep — you may have a down because you’re sore — then the ups, you know. This was the day to get to show everybody what I’ve been doing behind the scenes. It’s really a blessing.
“It’s a dream, you know? Even if I go undrafted, it’s a dream to get a shot. It’s one of those things that I’ve been working and I’ll keep working on it.”



The defensive back group at Northern Iowa was very close during its run stalking sideline to sideline for the Panthers the last few years.So when they performed so well at Pro Day on Tuesday, the hugs and fist-bumps were plentiful. Tim Kilfoy, who played his career at safety, was very proud of the group and what it said about how they pushed each other in their time together.
“I think everybody came out and did well,” Kilfoy said. “I think the defensive backs did exceptionally well, which is something you definitely have pride in, being in the secondary. I thought today went very well.
“They liked how I looked, how I carried myself; they said I did well in the defensive drills. It gave me a position to get a chance, and that’s all I can ask for at this point.”
Kilfoy had a solid showing himself. He was the best of any player who did the bench press, putting 225 pounds up 22 times. He was also clocked on one scout’s time sheet as having an unofficial 40 time of 4.65 seconds on his first run and 4.68 seconds on his second.
He said he felt smooth in the positional drills, and like Hall and Dorleant, was busy talking with scouts when the day was done. An undrafted free agent deal is what Kilfoy expects around Draft time.
“It’s good to be over with, just in the essence of we’ve been working 10, 11 weeks. At Northern Iowa, you work months and months for a four-month season, where we come in here for two hours,” Kilfoy said. “It’s more of a free agency right now. I think (a practice squad spot) is the best thing for me, whether you look at testing or something else. I think with UNI football, you have a lot of good football players. This gave us a chance to be seen.”

Linebacker Brett McMakin shocked a lot of people with his decision to become the first UNI player to leave school early and enter the NFL Draft.He was on display as well for the UNI’s Pro Day, and got plenty of questions. Scouts were as curious as anyone why he made his decision, and McMakin said he knew those questions were coming. He did not bench press, but one scout had him, unofficially, between 4.82 and 4.94 in his 40-yard dash and got lots of positive feedback on his positional drills.
McMakin declined an interview at the time of his draft-eligible announcement, opting to focus on the preparation for Tuesday instead. He said Tuesday that paid off.
“The process has been good. It was a little crazy at first, but it’s calmed down. It’s been good lately,” McMakin said. “A handful of scouts are interested and want to get to know who I am.
“They’re surprised, and want to know why I came out early. It’s more for personal reasons.”

[BisonTru]

Some unofficials at NDSU's pro day:

CJ Smith 4.52 40, 11' broad, 37" vertical

Dudzik 4.33 40

Champion 4.6 40

Vraa 4.7 40

[smallcollegefbfan]

Some unofficials at NDSU's pro day:

CJ Smith 4.52 40, 11' broad, 37" vertical

Dudzik 4.33 40

Champion 4.6 40

Vraa 4.7 40

I expect Gil Brandt to post Wentz, Haeg, and maybe CJ Smith and 1 or 2 others if they have a real good workout on NFL.com today or tomorrow.

[BisonTru]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000647381/article/wentz-impresses-at-north-dakota-states-pro-day


Representatives from 18 NFL teams -- including Cleveland Browns (http://www.nfl.com/teams/clevelandbrowns/profile?team=CLE) head coach Hue Jackson and assistant coach Pep Hamilton -- were on hand for North Dakota State's pro day on Thursday. The school had confirmations from all 32 NFL teams to attend the pro day, but weather in Chicago held up connecting flights and prevented many from attending the workout (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000647278/article/snow-prevents-14-nfl-clubs-from-attending-wentzs-pro-day).There were nine Bison players plus three additional players from area small schools who participated in the workout, which was held indoors and run on FieldTurf.



Quarterback Carson Wentz (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/carson-wentz?id=2555259) -- 6-foot-5 1/8, 237 pounds -- looked very good in his pro-day workout (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000647286/article/rave-reviews-carson-wentz-pro-day-impresses-experts). He went through a scripted workout, and then the Browns (http://www.nfl.com/teams/clevelandbrowns/profile?team=CLE)' Hamilton -- as he did (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000645595/article/mayock-jared-goff-stepped-up-and-put-on-a-show-at-pro-day) with Cal QB Jared Goff (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jared-goff?id=2555334) last week -- made Wentz throw a wet football.
Offensive tackle Joe Haeg (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/joe-haeg?id=2555371) -- 6-6 1/8, 305 -- stood on his numbers from the NFL Scouting Combine (http://www.nfl.com/combine), with the exception of the broad jump (9 feet, 3 inches). As was the case at the combine, Haeg was unable to lift weights because of a shoulder injury suffered at the Senior Bowl (http://www.nfl.com/seniorbowl) that hasn't completely healed yet.
Cornerback CJ Smith -- 5-11, 188 -- ran the 40-yard dash in 4.59 seconds on both attempts. He had a 39-inch vertical jump and 10-foot-11 broad jump. He did the 20-yard short shuttle in 4.13 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.0 seconds. He performed seven reps on the bench press. Smith has really good hands and looked good in the positional drills. Smith is a possible rookie free-agent pickup for a team following the 2016 NFL Draft (http://www.nfl.com/draft).
Punter Ben LeCompte -- 5-9 3/4, 199 -- could get a look by an NFL team either in training camp or in rookie minicamp.
North Dakota State hosted a very well-organized pro day. The NFL representatives in attendance all got a copy of Wentz's scripted workout ahead of time.

[smallcollegefbfan]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000647381/article/wentz-impresses-at-north-dakota-states-pro-day

Trust Gil Brandt and the NFL Draft Scout results in the individual player profiles over all other results. That was a good workout for Smith. Had he ran a 4.4 I would have said he gets drafted. I think he ends up undrafted but makes a roster. He looked good in the NFLPA Game.

Wentz is definitely going top 10. Haeg may slide a little depending on the shoulder. I have him as a 4th round grade but could see him slide to the 5th or lower if the shoulder has any damage. I like Haeg's athletic ability and hope he gets a clean bill of health.

[BisonFan02]

Trust Gil Brandt and the NFL Draft Scout results in the individual player profiles over all other results. That was a good workout for Smith. Had he ran a 4.4 I would have said he gets drafted. I think he ends up undrafted but makes a roster. He looked good in the NFLPA Game.

Wentz is definitely going top 10. Haeg may slide a little depending on the shoulder. I have him as a 4th round grade but could see him slide to the 5th or lower if the shoulder has any damage. I like Haeg's athletic ability and hope he gets a clean bill of health.

Haeg should be fine. He's been pretty healthy his entire career at NDSU and played a good amount of football. If anything, a slide down to the even later rounds makes him a bargain IMHO.

[BEAR]

Film is most important. Always remember that.

I'll remember that. Side note from pro-day. Some of the scouts mentioned seeing film on Woodard. All three said he was triple teamed more his senior year than in the previous two years. Plus they said he only played in 5 games. Funny his stats say he was in 11 games but maybe the stats people only look at "published starting" instead of "actual starting" .
Still 10.5 TFL and 5.5 sacks (if in only 5 games) is pretty good. Wonder if he was battling an injury and didn't make it public. I don't remember watching him specifically in games so I can't comment how often he was out there if at all.

Something I hadn't noticed but apparently they have whole staffs that look at film for hours and hours of individual players. Can't imagine Woodard being triple teamed in the NFL. All that aside, I think Woodard's problem isn't his measurables or his tape, it's his agression. When he WANTS it, he gets it. PFA likely but it would be great to see him in the late rounds. He already had workouts with the Raiders and the Titans.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I'll remember that. Side note from pro-day. Some of the scouts mentioned seeing film on Woodard. All three said he was triple teamed more his senior year than in the previous two years. Plus they said he only played in 5 games. Funny his stats say he was in 11 games but maybe the stats people only look at "published starting" instead of "actual starting" .
Still 10.5 TFL and 5.5 sacks (if in only 5 games) is pretty good. Wonder if he was battling an injury and didn't make it public. I don't remember watching him specifically in games so I can't comment how often he was out there if at all.

Something I hadn't noticed but apparently they have whole staffs that look at film for hours and hours of individual players. Can't imagine Woodard being triple teamed in the NFL. All that aside, I think Woodard's problem isn't his measurables or his tape, it's his agression. When he WANTS it, he gets it. PFA likely but it would be great to see him in the late rounds. He already had workouts with the Raiders and the Titans.

He sure has some tools I love and does some good things but he only flashes. He is stiff and often put bad tape out against single teams. Yes he did get doubled a lot but he also got single blocked and did nothing quite often. Woodard underachieved this year but has a lot of upside. He has a shot to get drafted but I know most teams would not draft him. I have only talked to 2 or 3 scouts who told me their team may pick him and it's in the 200-253 range. Maybe someone is hiding their love for him. I just know that I like him more than most scouts I have talked to and I have him as a high PFA.

[BEAR]

It would be interesting to see how many of the players in what rounds are actually there say 2 years after their draft.

How many first rounders are still playing? second round? third etc.

I can imagine the higher the rounds the more they tend to stick around but happily for Woodard there have been some late round guys that make a huge difference in the NFL years later..i.e. Brady. xlolx

[smallcollegefbfan]

It would be interesting to see how many of the players in what rounds are actually there say 2 years after their draft.

How many first rounders are still playing? second round? third etc.

I can imagine the higher the rounds the more they tend to stick around but happily for Woodard there have been some late round guys that make a huge difference in the NFL years later..i.e. Brady. xlolx

Lots of late round guys who fizzle out in a year or two and undrafted guys who make it. If Woodard is undrafted it is because he is stiff, takes plays off, and is not consistent with his production but if he makes it then it's because he improves his motor and develops. Lots of players get snubbed and use it as motivation to work extra hard to make it. I hope they all make it!

[BEAR]

Gil Brandt has Jonathan Woodard listed as one of his top 15 hidden gems:

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/04/10/gil-brandt-of-nfl-com-reveals-his-2016-nfl-draft-sleepers/

1.) Isiah Cage, OT, Wisconsin-Eau Claire2.) Jakeem Grant, WR, Texas Tech3.) Marcus Henry, C, Boise State4.) Tyrone Holmes, DE, Montana5.) D.J. Hunter, S, Marshall6.) Marcus Johnson, WR, Texas7.) Dillon Lee, LB, Alabama8.) Mitch Mathews, WR, BYU9.) Greg Milhouse, Jr., DT, Campbell10.) Jhurell Pressley, RB, New Mexico11.) Nick Ritcher, OT, Richmond12.) Brandon Ross, RB, Maryland13.) Arturo Uzdavinis, OT, Tulane14.) Joe Walker, LB, Oregon15.) Jonathan Woodard, DE, Central Arkansas

[smallcollegefbfan]

Gil Brandt has Jonathan Woodard listed as one of his top 15 hidden gems:

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/04/10/gil-brandt-of-nfl-com-reveals-his-2016-nfl-draft-sleepers/

1.) Isiah Cage, OT, Wisconsin-Eau Claire2.) Jakeem Grant, WR, Texas Tech3.) Marcus Henry, C, Boise State4.) Tyrone Holmes, DE, Montana5.) D.J. Hunter, S, Marshall6.) Marcus Johnson, WR, Texas7.) Dillon Lee, LB, Alabama8.) Mitch Mathews, WR, BYU9.) Greg Milhouse, Jr., DT, Campbell10.) Jhurell Pressley, RB, New Mexico11.) Nick Ritcher, OT, Richmond12.) Brandon Ross, RB, Maryland13.) Arturo Uzdavinis, OT, Tulane14.) Joe Walker, LB, Oregon15.) Jonathan Woodard, DE, Central Arkansas

It is good to see FCS players on the list. Hopefully they all get drafted. My guess is half of those guys will be picked.

Woodard has the physical tools to get drafted and good production but if he is drafted it would most likely be late and his tape really does not warrant it. About every scout I talked to rejected him or downgraded him big time in the fall. I just don't see how a scout can justify watching junior film and then lowering his grade based on senior film but then pound the table to draft the player because of a workout in shorts?

Again, I have him rated higher than just about every NFL scout I talked to. I see him as a good priority free agent that can make the back end of a roster but most said he was just a camp body.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Here are my notes from the UNI pro day.


NORTHERN IOWA

This was held at the Cedar Rapids Sports Complex on March 22nd. 25 NFL teams sent scouts, including defensive backs coaches from the Lions and Titans.

CB Makinton Dorleant measured 5106, 177 pounds, and ran a 4.39 and 4.40 40 with a 1.53 10, 2.53 20, 39 inch vertical, and 10’3 broad jump. He had a 4.45 short shuttle, 7.03 3-cone, and did 16 reps. He had a 8 ¾ hand, 30 1/8 arm, and 74 5/8 wingspan. Dorleant might have made himself a low round draft choice.

CB Deiondre Hall measured 6015, 199 pounds, and ran a 4.53 and 4.55 in the 40. He had a 1.62 10, 2.68 20, 11.55 60 shuttle, and did 10 bench reps. He kept all his other numbers from the NFL Scouting Combine. Hall should be a mid round pick due to his size/speed combo and length.

RB Savon Huggins, a former Rutgers transfer, ran a 4.56 and 4.57 40 at 5105, 208 pounds.

All-American SS Tim Kilfoy ran a 4.68 40 at 6001, 211 pounds with a 32 ½ vertical, 9’11 broad jump, and 4.49 short shuttle. He also did 22 bench reps.

All-American LB Brett McMakin measured 6033, 238 pounds, and ran a 4.90 40. He had a very poor workout with a 29 inch vertical and 1.72 10-yard. He also had a 4.60 short shuttle, 7.37 3-cone, and did not bench press. He had a 9 5/8 hand, 31 ½ arm, and 76 ¾ wingspan. He had acute appendicitis that led to surgery on March 14th. That surgery likely hurt his numbers. He needs to be worked out again.

RB Darrian Miller measured 5093, 192 pounds and ran a 4.74 and 4.75 in the 40.

PK Michael Schmadeke measured 5104, 174 pounds.

There were a couple Upper Iowa players but they are not NFL prospects.

- - - Updated - - -


Gil Brandt has Jonathan Woodard listed as one of his top 15 hidden gems:

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/04/10/gil-brandt-of-nfl-com-reveals-his-2016-nfl-draft-sleepers/

1.) Isiah Cage, OT, Wisconsin-Eau Claire2.) Jakeem Grant, WR, Texas Tech3.) Marcus Henry, C, Boise State4.) Tyrone Holmes, DE, Montana5.) D.J. Hunter, S, Marshall6.) Marcus Johnson, WR, Texas7.) Dillon Lee, LB, Alabama8.) Mitch Mathews, WR, BYU9.) Greg Milhouse, Jr., DT, Campbell10.) Jhurell Pressley, RB, New Mexico11.) Nick Ritcher, OT, Richmond12.) Brandon Ross, RB, Maryland13.) Arturo Uzdavinis, OT, Tulane14.) Joe Walker, LB, Oregon15.) Jonathan Woodard, DE, Central Arkansas


Here are the official numbers on Woodard:

DE Jonathan Woodard measured 6047, 271 pounds, and ran a 4.88 and 4.89 in the 40. He had a 1.69 10-yard, 2.76 20-yard, 34 inch vertical, 9’9 broad jump, 4.40 short shuttle, 7.08 3-cone, and did 28 bench reps. He had a 9 ½ hand, 34 arm, and 82 3/8 wingspan.

[clenz]

Here are my notes from the UNI pro day.


NORTHERN IOWA

This was held at the Cedar Rapids Sports Complex on March 22nd. 25 NFL teams sent scouts, including defensive backs coaches from the Lions and Titans.

CB Makinton Dorleant measured 5106, 177 pounds, and ran a 4.39 and 4.40 40 with a 1.53 10, 2.53 20, 39 inch vertical, and 10’3 broad jump. He had a 4.45 short shuttle, 7.03 3-cone, and did 16 reps. He had a 8 ¾ hand, 30 1/8 arm, and 74 5/8 wingspan. Dorleant might have made himself a low round draft choice.

CB Deiondre Hall measured 6015, 199 pounds, and ran a 4.53 and 4.55 in the 40. He had a 1.62 10, 2.68 20, 11.55 60 shuttle, and did 10 bench reps. He kept all his other numbers from the NFL Scouting Combine. Hall should be a mid round pick due to his size/speed combo and length.

RB Savon Huggins, a former Rutgers transfer, ran a 4.56 and 4.57 40 at 5105, 208 pounds.

All-American SS Tim Kilfoy ran a 4.68 40 at 6001, 211 pounds with a 32 ½ vertical, 9’11 broad jump, and 4.49 short shuttle. He also did 22 bench reps.

All-American LB Brett McMakin measured 6033, 238 pounds, and ran a 4.90 40. He had a very poor workout with a 29 inch vertical and 1.72 10-yard. He also had a 4.60 short shuttle, 7.37 3-cone, and did not bench press. He had a 9 5/8 hand, 31 ½ arm, and 76 ¾ wingspan. He had acute appendicitis that led to surgery on March 14th. That surgery likely hurt his numbers. He needs to be worked out again.

RB Darrian Miller measured 5093, 192 pounds and ran a 4.74 and 4.75 in the 40.

PK Michael Schmadeke measured 5104, 174 pounds.

There were a couple Upper Iowa players but they are not NFL prospects.

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Here are the official numbers on Woodard:

DE Jonathan Woodard measured 6047, 271 pounds, and ran a 4.88 and 4.89 in the 40. He had a 1.69 10-yard, 2.76 20-yard, 34 inch vertical, 9’9 broad jump, 4.40 short shuttle, 7.08 3-cone, and did 28 bench reps. He had a 9 ½ hand, 34 arm, and 82 3/8 wingspan.
Cedar Valley Sports Complex in Waterloo....

Cedar Rapids is an hour south of Cedar Falls/Waterloo

[smallcollegefbfan]

Cedar Valley Sports Complex in Waterloo....

Cedar Rapids is an hour south of Cedar Falls/Waterloo

The pro day sheet I'm looking at says "UNI PRO DAY @ CEDAR RAPIDS SPORTS COMPLEX. VERTICAL JUMP DONE ON WOOD COURT. I have never been to either. Just listing what was said by the scouts.

[clenz]

I get that just correcting.

Having lived in Cedar Falls for 8 years and now the Cedar Rapids metro for 2.5 I was just correcting information. It's the second straight year it was at that facility.

[Bisonoline]

I get that just correcting.

Having lived in Cedar Falls for 8 years and now the Cedar Rapids metro for 2.5 I was just correcting information. It's the second straight year it was at that facility.

I was just in Cedar Rapids for two days. Damn. Forgot you lived there. Need Pizza was pretty good as was the Flying Weenie. ANNNND I actually had a slice of Caseys breakfast pizza. I gotta admit it was was pretty damn good. Its better than there reg pizza. Which I find strange.

[clenz]

I was just in Cedar Rapids for two days. Damn. Forgot you lived there. Need Pizza was pretty good as was the Flying Weenie. ANNNND I actually had a slice of Caseys breakfast pizza. I gotta admit it was was pretty damn good. Its better than there reg pizza. Which I find strange.
I've actually never been able to convince myself to get Flying Weenie. All the reviews are good/great on it. I just struggle to get myself to go into, what looks like, an old gas station to buy a hot dog.

http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircraft/large/000/173/173946.jpg

It's also right across Diagonal and 8th from Penford - which smells like **** as all they do is process grains into specialty starches for different applications. You can see part of it in the photo sticking above Flying Weenie

You were real freaking close to me though. I live in Marion but work 2 miles, or 3 minutes, from the Flying Weenie and drive right past it 3 or 4 times a week going to see one of our customers job sites - right next to the federal court house off of 8th.

I work right off of 380 on Exit 17 - the exit for all of the hotels, there's Wendy's and Casey's and Cancun Mexican right off of the exit? It takes me about 10 seconds to get to those. AAMOF this is a photo of 380 from my office door

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160414/2c615f18eb733ec466c04089244df8f2.jpg

[Bisonoline]

I've actually never been able to convince myself to get Flying Weenie. All the reviews are good/great on it. I just struggle to get myself to go into, what looks like, an old gas station to buy a hot dog.

http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircraft/large/000/173/173946.jpg

It's also right across Diagonal and 8th from Penford - which smells like **** as all they do is process grains into specialty starches for different applications. You can see part of it in the photo sticking above Flying Weenie

You were real freaking close to me though. I live in Marion but work 2 miles, or 3 minutes, from the Flying Weenie and drive right past it 3 or 4 times a week going to see one of our customers job sites - right next to the federal court house off of 8th.

I work right off of 380 on Exit 17 - the exit for all of the hotels, there's Wendy's and Casey's and Cancun Mexican right off of the exit? It takes me about 10 seconds to get to those. AAMOF this is a photo of 380 from my office door

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160414/2c615f18eb733ec466c04089244df8f2.jpg

I was closer than you think. We were in Marion on some personal business. Plus we stayed at the Clarion Inn. LOL

The Weenie also has other food like Italian Beef ,gyros etc. The Italian sausage is very spicy-hot. There menu is bigger than one expects.

[clenz]

I was closer than you think. We were in Marion on some personal business. Plus we stayed at the Clarion Inn. LOL

The Weenie also has other food like Italian Beef ,gyros etc. The Italian sausage is very spicy-hot. There menu is bigger than one expects.
The Clarion in right off of that exit? Never been in it, but there has to be a better area to stay than the south side of CR. It's all industrial warehousing.

[Bisonoline]

The Clarion in right off of that exit? Never been in it, but there has to be a better area to stay than the south side of CR. It's all industrial warehousing.

I would assume there are better accommodations but I dont know CR that well. Its used to be a Sheraton so I gave it a chance. Had a damn good hot breakfast.

[BisonTru]

VAdams singing rights have been traded to Montreal for a '17 first.

[smallcollegefbfan]

VAdams singing rights have been traded to Montreal for a '17 first.

No shock for him. I always had him as a camp body. He moved up simply to improve draft stock and it did not help. Literally he stayed in about the same spot on my board and with NFL teams from the spring to draft day. He should be a very good CFL QB though. I always looked at him as the same as Armanti Edwards. Vernon Adams was not quite as explosive as a runner with a thicker frame and slightly less strong arm but he has enough arm strength. I hope he does well.

[BisonTru]

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